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Billy Baldwin & Dr. Robert Marbut - Fentanyl: Death Incorporated

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March 9, 2025 12:00 am

Billy Baldwin & Dr. Robert Marbut - Fentanyl: Death Incorporated

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March 9, 2025 12:00 am

The fentanyl crisis is a growing concern in the US, with overdose deaths surpassing those of World War II. Experts argue that the issue is not just about addiction, but also about mental health and the lack of treatment options. The documentary Fentanyl Death Incorporated explores the root causes of the crisis and proposes solutions, including stricter border control and increased funding for mental health services.

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How do we change that? Yep, that is a little of the documentary that's now out and available for everybody, thanks to Billy Baldwin and Dr. Robert Marbut. Dr. Marbut's a Trump guy, as he just told me. You are the Discovery Institute Senior Fellow and former White House Policy Advisor. And Billy Baldwin, we know, esteemed actor, producer, and writer.

You'll see him do voiceover for this. It's called Fentanyl Death Incorporated, and it is pretty powerful. Billy, first off, congratulations to both of you guys for doing this. What alerted you to this? Well, I was invited to do a film on homelessness called No Address. In preparation for No Address, we went to 20 cities in 18 states, and we spun off a documentary on homelessness that led to my partnership with Dr. Robert Marbut here to do the other documentary on fentanyl, Fentanyl Death Incorporated. And I think we have a fentanyl crisis, I think we have a homelessness crisis, I think we have a bigger mental health crisis, and all roads with all of these problems lead through the mental health crisis that we're experiencing in the country right now. And what you're seeing now is the untreated mental illness is self-medicating with fentanyl. And five, six years ago, it was other drugs, but fentanyl now is the most dangerous drug ever. Explain to how that happened, to trace back the history with the Purdue Pharma situation.

Yeah, and so shortly after Purdue Pharma, only about 10 years ago, when all the lawsuits happened and the docs stopped prescribing, you had millions of prescriptions out, you had hundreds of thousand people addicted, and suddenly they went cold turkey. And the Mexican cartels with China, bringing in the precursors, just backfilled that. They already had a distribution network in America with meth, so they just brought fentanyl right in and backplaced it, and then now it's illicit drugs on the street, and one grain of rice of fentanyl will kill 15 people.

So that is unbelievable, and the impact on our country. Do you believe, Billy, from what your gut tells you, what your research shows, that China is behind it, they want it, they want a modern-day opium war against the U.S.? Well, the British did that to China back in the 1830s or something. They did the same thing. That's how they wound up coming into control of Hong Kong for so many years.

They had the precursors. Yeah, so they're sending it here. We have as big a problem on the northern border with the Canadian biker gangs and the super labs up there.

They're distributing the northern border as porous, more porous than the southern border. So we have a problem with Canada right now, and what people need to know is that we are 4% of the world's population. We consume 38% of the world's fentanyl, and we have 65% of the global deaths from fentanyl. It's the number one cause of death between the ages of 18 and 45 of all Americans, more than heart disease, more than cancer right now is fentanyl deaths. And I think that the stat that really gets it brings it home. More people have died of fentanyl in the last five years than the last hundred years of war for Americans.

So World War II, Korea, Vietnam, Kosovo, Global War on Terror, Afghanistan, Iraq, Adam, Adam all up. There are more people who have died of fentanyl in the last four to five years in the United States than Americans. And a lot of people think, well, you choose to do drugs, that's what happens. This is not the case. A lot of people, for example, you see these stories of college students, hey, I'm looking to stay up a little bit longer.

I'll take an illegal drug like Ritalin to stay up, and it's got fentanyl specs in there, and you're dead. The woman that founded YouTube, her son was a freshman at Berkeley. This isn't a poor issue. This isn't a minority. This is wealthy, affluent white people. They send their kids to Berkeley, to Stanford.

They're at a frat party, a sorority party. Somebody hands them a pill, they don't wake up the next day. And right now, the fastest growing death rate for children zero to four is fentanyl.

Think about that. They're not addicts. They're just getting poisoned with the fentanyl dust hanging around on a public space. Put a sandwich down, pick it up, and they're dead. So let's talk about the Arkansas.

A lot of people say, hey, this is how I'll address it. I'll give them the needles. I'll give them the drugs. And that's pretty permissive is not the way. Here's what Arkansas did.

Cut 38. There isn't a school in this nation that hasn't been affected. In Arkansas, it is state law that every school has naloxone. In Arkansas, this isn't L.A. or San Francisco, but that is how pervasive fentanyl is becoming. Is that the Narcan? Narcan is what saves your life when you stop breathing. Fentanyl will make you stop breathing, and the Narcan is what will revive you again. But let me just clarify something.

Two things that you're going to find very interesting, Brian. One is that in Sacramento and San Francisco and Seattle and Portland, they're not giving away the drugs. They are giving away the paraphernalia. That sounds like a Nancy Pelosi idea. That was actually law enforcement. They didn't want to spread out their resources to 20 different sites, and they said if we control it with a nurse where people aren't overdosing, we can now have our resources in these two sites in the city rather than spreading it out across the city. It wound up being not a great idea, and we have to, of course, correct as we're moving forward. Another thing is, you know, we did this film on homelessness, and it shows the path to homelessness, domestic abuse, PTSD, veteran. A lot of people say it's not their fault. A child, not their fault.

A victim of domestic violence, not their fault. What about the people that choose to be homeless that are choosing to do the drugs? Ninety percent of the people that are on the street that are homeless that are doing drugs don't have healthcare. They can't see a psychologist or a psychiatrist. They can't get the medications that all of us can get for anxiety, depression, bipolar, schizophrenic, BTSD, and they're self-medicating with alcohol and fentanyl because they're mentally ill. They're not people that are saying, I want to be homeless and I want to be strung out on drugs on the street.

They're people that are mentally ill, and they're not getting the help they need. And to me, right now in the United States, we've been making it so easy to get high and so hard to get treatment, especially on the West Coast and a few other places. We need to make it easy to get treatment and hard to get high. Right, and you've got to stay in treatment for the right period of time. Usually, you get in there, it's in and out in ten days. No question, no question.

Ten days, twenty-eight days won't work. We have like an odd couple roadshow. We just spoke to the Washington Policy Center in Spokane, 800 conservatives. What's the cat that followed us again? Prager, Dennis Prager. That's how conservative it was, okay? Dennis Prager followed us. And 800 people came up to us afterwards. We were there for two hours answering questions, and they were very enamored with the fact that we are together, we are partnering, the right is talking to the left, it's civil, it's respectful. You know, it's like the old days. Remember the old days when I worked on the Hill, it was like Tip O'Neill and Bob Dole, and Reagan was talking more to Tip O'Neill than he was talking to Bob Dole. That's when people were in Georgetown, in the cocktail parties, and people were talking to each other. Now, Democrats and Republicans aren't talking.

Some Republicans aren't talking to Republicans. Right. We've got to do something about that. Here's what Speaker Johnson said. They have the whole fentanyl act. It empowers law enforcement to go after the producers. As you know, they're starting to crack down like crazy, and that's why they're bringing in these tariffs.

Cut 39. What we'll be doing this week is continuing our efforts to protect American communities by voting on the HALT Fentanyl Act, which will permanently schedule fentanyl, and all fentanyl-related substances as Schedule 1 narcotics. Why is that important? Because it empowers law enforcement to seize those deadly drugs and go after their producers and distributors and stop the flow. Billy, is that a step in the right direction? Yeah, I think you have to criminalize this. It can't be a misdemeanor anymore.

It has to be a felony, and the judges have to be in a position to say, I'm either going to put you away or you're going to go to rehab. That's your sentence. And when you go away, people are wondering. The interesting thing is you have the compassionate side who has made mistakes, low harm, no harm, housing first. Well, you can't take a homeless person off the street who's mentally ill and addicted to drugs. If you get them off the street, great. You put them into housing, great. But now they're a homeless person. They're a mentally ill person who's addicted to drugs, who has housing. The problem isn't gone. So I like the idea of making it a felony where a judge in a courtroom could say, I'm going to give you a choice.

You're either going to do time or you're going to go to rehab. And another part of the argument is the compassion side that has slung a bunch of stuff against the wall and spent a lot of money and it hasn't been effective enough is talking to others that are saying like, wait a second, that sounds expensive. How are we going to pay for it? And I'm here and we're trying to demonstrate in this documentary that you're paying more now to not do enough. And I'll tell you how. 9-11 call.

I've been there 100 times. OK, fire department, sheriff, police, paramedics, nonprofits, cost the taxpayer, emergency room, admitted to the hospital, go into the court system. You're incarcerated. Property values, quality of life, small business administration, commerce, tourism. All of these things are being affected.

I told you in Spokane and in Sacramento, these cities were being destroyed by fentanyl and homelessness. This episode is brought to you by PDS debt. Struggling with credit cards, personal loans, medical bills or collections? It's time to stop worrying about that high interest debt you've got piling up. PDS debt can help you start saving money immediately. Their platform can analyze your unique situation and create a plan to get you out of debt. There's no minimum credit score required and it takes 30 seconds to get your results. With PDS debt, you'll take back control of your finances.

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And I traveled there for the movie in China. There is no drug use in China inside their internal population, so they know how to control it, but they're not controlling the outflow. And so we got to get the cartels under control in Mexico and we got to get the biker gangs out of Canada under control.

Those are the three you have to do. And if it takes tariffs and Billy and I probably differ on this, but if it takes tariffs to get the attention, then we need it. Nobody wants a tariff war.

Nobody wants that to go on. But if that's what it takes to finally get Mexico extraditing people, which they have in the last week in the biggest arrest they've made, they're really suddenly, I mean, Mexico, Claudia is the president of Mexico. She's just kicking it.

She's really doing good. But the Canadian border and U.S. border is the longest linear land border in the world. So it's not just Blaine to Maine. It's all the Alaska Canadian Western frontier.

And so it is really porous up north. Billy, when you went to the city to city in your documentary, what did you notice from what you knew from what it is? I went on part of the journey and essentially what I learned from that, the takeaway was we don't have a homelessness crisis as much as we have a mental health crisis.

That's why. And covid and fentanyl have exacerbated that problem. And we're at a totally new level in terms of homelessness. I told you the numbers before just in L.A., fifty four thousand to seventy six thousand.

And it's interesting because you have the compassionate side that sometimes errs on the side of overcompensating. And that was triggered by the movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest when Reagan there was five hundred thousand federal mental health beds in the country in the 1950s. There's thirty thousand now and most of those are occupied by guilty by insanity.

They're criminals that are in those mental health. So there's literally like five thousand beds when we used to have five hundred thousand. But a massive push to get facilities back and experts on. The good news is there is there is a lot of hope because there's amazing programs right now in Fort Smith, Texas.

His program, twenty five people, twenty five hundred people a night. Haven of Hope in San Antonio in Austin. There's this incredible partnership between the Rescue Mission and Johns Hopkins in Baltimore. And they're doing 360 wraparound comprehensive care that includes health care, drug addiction treatment, job training, job placement. Seventy percent success rate. Getting people back on their feet. Totally independent on their own, off the surface.

Seventy percent. And compassion without accountability is enablement. And you've got to have the accountability with the compassion. That's how you're successful.

When we're doing the panels, when we're doing the panels, it's interesting. He's critical of the right and I'm critical of the left. It's not vice versa. And I'm sitting there saying I've done conservatorships over people for it. And in conservatorship it says they have to be a threat to themselves or others or harm themselves or others. And I'm sitting there watching somebody who we just brought back to life with Narcan. They vomit and they turn around and tell the fire department to get lost.

I'm saying don't leave that languishing in the courts with the judges and the lawyers for a year and a half. Let the fire department and the nonprofit and the police department and the paramedics who are on the front lines in the trenches every day make the call. We've got to take this guy for five or ten days. And they've got to get a place to take him. You put him in the hospital and then they're making a decision to do I want help or do I not want to help. They're not high on Narcan. And the reason they're saying no is not only because the high is so good, it's because the detox is so terrifying to them and so painful to them physically and emotionally.

They're like I'd rather risk dying than detox. And this is Screening Tonight, guys, at the Empire AMC. At 6.30 tonight and go to fdimovie.com, fdimovie.com.

Or you could go to thelongwindfentanyldeathincorporated.com and you can go on and pick up a ticket for tonight. And you'll speak about it too. Yeah, we're going to do a panel afterwards with Fireit.

And two of the people you just had in the setup piece, they're going to be there too. Dr. Robert Marbot, great, great, great things you're doing. Billy, the same thing.

Go check out their documentary, Fentanyl Death Incorporated. Thanks so much, guys. Thanks for having us. Thank you. Fox News Audio presents the Fox Nation Investigates Podcast. Evil Next Door. Exploring the life and crimes of five serial predators from across the United States. Listen and follow now at foxdrewcrime.com or wherever you get your favorite podcasts.

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