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Donald Trump's transition to the presidency is underway, with key appointments and negotiations taking place. Meanwhile, Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy are pushing for significant budget cuts and reforms in Washington, D.C. As the Biden administration faces scrutiny over pardons and corruption allegations, Trump's team is working to establish a new direction for the country.

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From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead.

Alright, buddy, welcome to the latest minutes of the Brand Kill Me Show. Happy to be on campus of Long Island University. It is actually where I went to college, and it's also, but most importantly, right now, it is where. It is where the Patriot Awards are tonight for six years in a row. It is the best award show in America, and I think most people that go to it understand that.

My hope is that you're going to be there tonight if you got tickets, because they quickly went up to up to $8,000 each. Because Donald Trump says, I will come to receive the award. He's going to get a special award tonight. Then he's going over to France. Before we go any further, let me bring in one of the guys who's better than most, just about anyone I know, to break down what happened in politics and what is about to happen.

He is Mark Penn, CEO and Chairman of Stagwell. You can follow him at Mark underscore Penn. Mark, welcome back to the Brian Kilmeat Show. Thank you, and good morning. Same to you.

First off, the President of the United States is getting a lot of people in his corner. We find out that Jamie Dimon's been talking to him for the last month, and then. Last night, we find word Jeff Bezos being interviewed says, you know what? I love this new approach with Donald Trump. We've spoken, and I like his approach to regulations.

Any way I can help him, I can. What about this nexus between business and the White House? I'm not mentioning Republican and Democrat nearly as much as I used to.

Well, yes, there's Trump mania out there. There's no question about it. I think everybody wants to get the ear. Donald Trump. They think he's really going to change things, take America in a different direction.

He's bringing in a team of loyalists, he's experienced. He's come off the first term learning a lot so that he's ready to hit the ground running. And I think everybody wants to talk to him and say, look, this is this is they they want to be part of the way he's going to change America. I think that's really out there. That's why I just call it Trumpomania.

It's the opposite of Trump syndrome. I mean, we don't hear any protests. We don't have to board up our buildings. We don't say at the inauguration there's going to be a million woman march because he and Madonna's not going to get up there and say. I've been dreaming about an assassination of the President at the White House.

It seems like we're far from it. What I find interesting today is Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy are going up as the Doge twins and are going to be meeting with lawmakers and talking about where they want to approach. They're going to be listening as well as lecturing. Road Kahana, Jared Moskowitz, Bernie Sanders, or three Democrats who say, count me in. How long will this last?

And do you think they really mean it? I don't think it's going to last that long. Look, budget cutting is a difficult exercise. It can be done. I worked with President Clinton, and he worked with Newt Gingrich.

and they balanced the budget. And that was the last time, if you can believe it, we were headed in a year or two had we not changed course to wipe out the national debt And we had surpluses coming in once people really sat down to negotiate the budget.

So I believe a lot is possible. I think that the budget has been. crammed and government contracts have been inflated in terms of what it takes to really get these things done.

So I personally kind of we had Rego back in the day with Clinton and Gore, and this is the first effort since then, and it's long overdue. And I don't know that there's going to be harmony on this, but I do think a lot's going to get done. I think it's going to be more structural than we are going to let go of one person in every department. That's my sense is what they want to hope to do, and we'll see if business can work with politics. Because if it can't work now, it's hard to imagine it will work in the future.

For Democrats, where do they go from here, Mark? I don't really see the same anger and determination to unearth and delegitimize this election. Who do you look to as a leader to emerge on the left?

Well, look, well first, let me just go back for one second to the business, which is that look, if you have less regulation, you have lower taxes and you have lower interest rates, those are formulas for business success and for economic growth. And I think a lot of the voters said, you know, I don't want $25,000 towards my house. I want a better paying job that's going to last for a lifetime. And I think that was a big part of the message that came out of here in the working and middle class. And I think in terms of the Democrats, there's not going to be a clear leader until the Democratic primaries in and will the left fight against the center?

Will AOC, I guess I think she can qualify? Will she run for president? You know, will the left kind of try to take over the Democratic Party and come out of that? Or will the center, like Josh Shapiro and the Fettermans, kind of come back? We're not going to know for years.

There's not going to be leadership here. That's the way it works. I want you to hear that in terms of Joe Biden's stock, it couldn't be falling faster. The ripple effect from that pardon of his son, well, not unexpected. It just made everybody that said believed him that he wasn't going to do it look terrible.

And there's a lot of anger from Gavin Newsom on down for people you wouldn't expect. I want you to hear. I want you to hear Uh Chuck Todd. Used to host meet the press.

Some of the things that we've been talking about in this channel, and you've been asked to comment on constantly, Mark, is about what was going on behind the scenes with the Bidens and why people aren't looking more into their business relationship. We bring that up constantly. Listen to what Chuck Todd put together. Listen. You read the Halley Biden transcript, and that's both widow.

Yes. And and essentially he turned her into a crack addict. And this was all happening in 2017, 2018. And Joe and Joe Biden. were so concerned about their family But they decided to run for president.

I just so when you talk about the word selfish. I it's almost like the word doesn't I mean I Their decision to run for president put the entire Democratic Party and the United States of America. In the position that it's in now. Think about what he's talking about. He's talking about two thousand.

He's not talking about staying on in twenty twenty four.

So he went from George Washington to the most selfish first family ever, putting our country in jeopardy. And bringing up Hunter and some of his dubious relationships and actions. Your thoughts?

Well, first of all, every now and then I put Hunter Biden in a poll, and he polls close to Vladimir Putin.

Okay. He represents He represents the worst of what Americans look to somebody who took money from Shady characters around the world. Didn't pay taxes, slept with his. His dead brother's wife, and then turned her into a crack, all of these things, and yet Joe Biden holds him up as a paragon of virtue. And and look, uh I think it's kind of probably too late now, but the the truth of the matter is the media didn't do its job.

The Hunter Biden laptop was one hundred percent true. There was look, anybody who looks at it would have to conclude that there was a scheme here to collect twenty million dollars out of these dubious sources. And probably Biden thought, look, he was leaving politics. And so it didn't matter anymore. And then he turned out to be president.

And then the media refused to really cover it. when you go back here, the the the record of the Biden family here and then the record of the Biden Presidency, i i i it it really is quite quite disastrous in so many ways. The Nick.

Well, it is because imagine if they decided, well, Bill Clinton's a Democrat. Let's not cover the Lewinsky scandal. Wrong. The New York Times led that with Drudge.

So that just talks about how things have changed. This next move on the pardon and what it means because it's probably going to be his brother's going to get pardoned next.

Now they're talking about a preemptive pardon for Adam Schiff, Liz Cheney, Jack Smith. Listen to what James Clyburn is telling the White House to do, cut 22. Jack Smith name. It's on my list. List changed name.

is on my list. Uh I think that they all should be preemptively pardoned Uh because I think they're people who Trump may bring into this government. Who will go after these people? In a serious way. Your thoughts about a preemptive pardon of people that claim they didn't do anything wrong.

What's he talking about? You never done anything like this outside Nixon, which was a lot different. Yeah, I mean, look, I don't think that would be a very smart thing to do and create things like interesting that we're finding out that Jack Smith Was under some secret investigation that we didn't know about that I think Jim Jordan has now asked for the documents on. Look, I don't. It it look by all means here.

it looks like the Trump administration is going to really adhere to his revenge being and retribution being his success. And I don't know how much time they're going to spend going back to look at all these things. They have to prevent from the government ever being weaponized the way it was over the last four years.

So I think anybody who looks at the record of Garland and the FBI and what they are, knows that it has to be cleaned. I don't know that it's worth it's clearly these pardons were a mistake. Bill Clinton shredded a lot of his reputation with last-minute pardons after we had built it up to almost 75% approval rating. I don't think Biden's going to issue a lot more pardons after the last one. I'll tell you, Trump is not afraid to do this.

I hope he's been listening to you, watching you on T V, reading your columns, because you could be a huge help to him. But of course, you have a fee, Mark. You don't give it away free. And I understand that. Mark Penn, thanks so much.

Thank you, Brian. Uh All right, when we come back, Lawrence Jones joins me. He's going to be here in studio. I wouldn't let him go home yet. Then, Josh Crosshawr will bring the latest on the Trump transition picks.

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discuss what we have talked about specifically, but you know the the allegation was made. About him being intoxicated several times. And so the the questions that Every member will be asking him let to. And he categories he'll subdue altogether if he becomes secretary of faculty.

So that is Senator Roger Worker. Why is he important? He's going to be coming the chairman. He's going to be coming the chairman. Of the Armed Services Committee and Roger Wicker has had a whole comprehensive list and study on how to revamp the Pentagon.

And it's increasing spending, but doing it the right way. And when he talks to Pete, it's going to be substance. And he did talk to him, and they had a substantive conversation. And he came out very positive. And I think that's important.

On the fence is Joni Ernst, no doubt about it. But Senator Kramer wrote a column Today's Hill. He is very much in Pete's corner. He was very impressive, one-on-one. Here's Pete, cut 11.

Today, I've chosen to talk to uh Peter Founder. No, our founders are brilliant in this process of advising consent. It's been edifying and A wonderful process to go through and meet with senators and talk to them, especially members of the Senate Armed Services Committee, whose passion is the Defense Department and our warfighters to hear. what they want to do to make sure that department is properly oriented for the threats of the world and make sure that we're putting the warfighters first. And what they did, too, and what Trump's doing is, if he's going to put somebody out there to run things and set the spirit and work on the recruiting and work on the overall image and how to go about things and what conflicts to recommend what conflicts to get involved, what you need is a strong deputy underneath that.

And I think right now, I think that Donald Trump went out and named a deputy defense secretary. And he is a billionaire. His name is Stephen Feinberg. He is the co-CEO of Cerberus Capital Management, which is huge, which is invested in hypersonic missiles, which previously owned the private military contractor Dynecorp. It was acquired by another defense firm, which is probably a consolidation, by the way.

The first Trump administration, he played a role as a contractor. Feinberg led the President's Intelligence Advisory Board. Why is that important? He needs to know about weapons purchases, about production, about what it's going to take to get more ships and more planes and more drones, let alone more people. And that's what people want.

Okay, if Pete's never run an organization that big and who has? Don't tell me that Secret that General Austin did a good job. He was invisible. He had no presence. And under his leadership, we shrunk in size.

But you have a guy out there That is going to run things, that knows how to run a huge organization, that will work with Pete. Number two, Dan Driscoll has been named Army Secretary. They named it on True Social. Driscoll from North Carolina serves as Secretary of Army as a former soldier, investor, political advisor. He brings a combination of experience and as a disruptor.

Military recruitment. This is how bad things are, guys. Military recruitment for the Army. From 2019 to 2024, they've lost 19% down to 55,150. The Navy's off 8% to 35,000 plus.

Marines off 13% and Air Force 15%. And this President never even talks about it.

Now, think about the world the President's inheriting.

Now you have conflicts with Russia and Ukraine, North Korea. Has teamed with Russia, China, Iran, and who knows what's going to emerge from Syria to form an axis of evil. And that's exactly what's happening.

Now, I can give you this information. The Wall Street Journal reporting and my information shows that talks have already started with Ukraine representatives, with Ukrainian representatives, and the Trump team, and a representative with General Kellogg. General Kellogg is going to lead the Ukraine peace effort or some trying to cease fire effort or some type of conflict resolution effort. And he has put his associate there. And I've talked to somebody higher up in the new Trump team who said, both Russia and Ukraine have expressed interest in coming to the table.

Now think about that. The Trump effect, as that person told me, is very real. Uh back to Pete for a second. With the couple of minutes we have here, among the people that are firmly in this corner is Tommy Tuberville. He is there, he's selling him.

He was on with Larry Kudlow last night, Cut 15. 100% right choice, Larry. President Trump's not interested in business as usual because it's gotten us in trouble. Pete is a patriot. He understands the military 20 years, but he's done other stuff too.

He's been in business, he's well educated, well spoken. But what I like about him, Larry, he is he's the age. He's going in, running our military, and we need somebody the age, close to the age of a lot of these warfighters that we have. They can relate. This is a different military.

This is a different time. This is a different era. And we need to build our military back because we have really degraded our military over the years. That is true. Nobody talks about the recruiting.

Can you imagine being the CEO of the country? You see your military, the pay increases, excuse me, the budget increases don't keep up with inflation, and they get more from the budget they submit. In other words, the Republicans look at this and the Democrats look at this and say, it's not enough money. We've got to give you more money. Is that crazy?

Who would ever want to preside over a country with a smaller, less effective military that's dispirited with recruiting that doesn't hit its marks? That's the Joe Biden administration. Good luck with that legacy of George Washington.

Meanwhile, when you talk about pure politics, I give Democrats credit when they're critical. I look at Senator Fetterman and Senator Manchin and Senator Sinema and say, what's wrong with my party? And you know, they're Democrats. I get it. And in the case of Manchin, he won Independent.

I understand it.

Now, Charlemagne is a huge personality. He's got his podcast network along with his breakfast show. Hopefully, we're going to catch up to him again next week. He's disappointed. Kamala Harris was his friend.

Biden was never impressed with. But he went on the view yesterday. Yeah. And he has just says he calls as he sees it. He says that Joe Biden's been totally ineffective.

He's gone invisible. He's nodding off in Angola. Donald Trump has taken over and he's gotten shellacked in this election. Listen to this exchange, Charlemagne and Whoopee Goldberg, Cut twenty one. But he didn't have to volunteer that lie to begin with.

I'm going to stop you for a second. Uh-oh. Only because you don't know that it was a lie. We don't know why he changed his mind. Do you really think he just changed his mind over Thanksgiving weekend all the time?

At some point, you get to the place where you just go, so I'm just going to follow the straight and narrow always, because that's what's expected of Democrats. But that's their fault. They're the ones that go out there and they stand on this moral high ground. Democrats are not a monolith. Why can't you say when Democrats are wrong?

And what he's talking about is the pardon, how stupid it was. And everybody that defended Biden for standing up, even if it means his son goes to jail, because he said it for two and a half years, looks stupid because he went back on his word and pardoned him, is going to pardon others. Charlotte Maine's 100% right. It doesn't mean he's less of a Democrat, it means he has integrity. Back in a moment.

If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. If we're talking about Trump, I think it's very interesting. I'm actually very optimistic this time around that We're gonna see, I'm very hopeful about this, his Oh well. He seems to have a lot of energy around reducing regulation.

And my point of view, if I can help him do that, I'm going to help him. Because We do have too much regulation in this country. This country is so set up. Mm. to grow.

So that is what's significant about that soundbite. It's not that Trump supporters are saying I'm going to support Trump, but it is Jeff Bezos, one of the most successful businessmen in the world with Amazon. Who was invisible during the first four years, and if anything is a critic. And I don't know who started it, but him and Trump were constantly sparring about the left-wing stance on everything Washington Post, this whole cold reporting, as well as the editorials. And every time something would happen, he would bring up Jeff Bezos' name, and I don't know who started it, but suddenly they've met, they've spoken, and now he was doing a forum for the New York Times.

And he was saying, Look, I've been very impressed with how calm he's been, the team he's assembled, and what he wants to do. And you heard one of the reasons was regulation. Look. And then the other thing would be the responsibility that comes with that. I want them to cut regulations too, and go in there and find out.

You want to be responsible with the environment, but the EPA has been just hamstringing everything and not just oil and gas and other regulations. But then once you get some freedom, you got to act responsibly, and that should be part of the deal. Josh Krashauer joins us now, Fox News political analyst, editor in chief of the Jewish Insider. Josh, how significant is it that Jeff Bezos said what he said or has the tone that he has? I think it's very significant, Brian.

he recognizes that the activism The left wing More than just a slam, like the left-wing editorial posture of the post. over the last couple of years has Become a problem, and they're trying to bring people in a newsroom to moderate things. But this is from the very top, the signal that Jeff Bezos wants to, you know, I think he said this at the forum, but he wants to cover the news fair and accurately, but wants to kind of, you know, the implication is he wants to kind of free it from the bias and the ideological activism that has often kind of permeated the pages.

So I think this is a shift sort of in one of the most prestigious newspapers in the country, and it could suggest a other changes in the media going forward, that that the the resistance, the the the this the kind of one note anti Trump activism that we saw so often from the very beginning of Trump's first term is going to be looking a lot different come from twenty twenty four. And I think it's in a large response to what the voters had to say and that's a decisive victory that Trump had in the twenty twenty four election. I know, and so far it's interesting today. Anyone who thought it was going to be a ceremonial position for Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy hasn't been paying attention and will most likely be struck by those two walking the halls of the Capitol building, trying to see what people's ideas are and let them know what their hopes are in terms of cutting the budget, becoming more efficient, leaning out the federal government and cutting $2 trillion off. I want you to hear from Vivek Ramaswamy.

This is some of what he was saying about what he wants to do, cut one.

So, a couple of things. First is the idea of reducing the federal employee headcount. Is not really about saving cost. I think that that's either been a misunderstanding or mischaracterization of the objective. Actually, it's a very small portion of the total federal costs that are the headcount expenses to individual employees.

I think that part of what you have is an overgrown federal government that is doing things that were never supposed to be done by the federal government in the first place.

So he wants structure. They're talking structure. They're not talking about necessarily firing people. And it's not really been getting the Heisman. In fact, Joni Ernst.

Uh You have a few other Senator Fetterman, you have Senator Bernie Sanders, Roe Kahana, Congressman from San Francisco, saying, I'm all ears. I'd like to do this. Yeah, well look, usually when you hear politicians talking about the bloated federal government, often you hear about waste, fraud and abuse. Those are the easy things to kind of go after a wasteful spending and excess government. But what what Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy are talking about is something more fundamental, which is that the bureaucracy itself is out of control, that it's just Gotten more and more bloated over time that no one really has any clear sense of mission.

You know, and it's just. Not very effective. Think about transportation, which is something that even Democrats in the last couple of months have been starting to talk about more publicly. Like it takes 10 years to build a high-speed rail. You can't build high-speed rail.

You have to deal with all these regulations. You have to deal with lawyers and red tape, and it's become very ineffective and sclerotic. And I think that is really what Musk and Ramaswamy are all about. But they're not just talking about cutting and trimming on the edges. They actually want to re-examine the role of government, reexamine how these bureaucracies have become so large and not effective at times of achieving their mission.

I think they're going to have a hard time. Whenever you go after the government, you're playing against the dealer. You're facing long odds in Washington. But the fact that they're actually detailing such an ambitious mission is a sign of how serious they are and how serious this new administration is about not just kind of saying the same old, same old about cutting costs, but about actually fundamentally rethinking what government is meant to do. Yeah, I guess so.

So we'll see how that's going to be received. And it probably would have been a better question for tomorrow to see what happened, because we want to go in there. A lot of people say, I got to protect this, I've got to protect that. I understand it.

But, you know, we saw Elon Musk come out and say, why are we still building F-35s? We should be unmanned jet planes. This is not something we should be doing. But that's an old debate, and we'll talk about that. I also want to talk about some of President Trump's selections.

It looks like Marco Rubio is going to sail right through, and it looks like Cash Patel is getting more support than I originally thought. What is your reporting show?

Well, look, the nominees who have had trouble, or whether it's Matt Gates who had to withdraw right now with P Tech Seth and trying to get the support he needs for confirmation, the things that have caused nominees trouble has been over personal issues. It's not been the ideology, whether you're part of MAGA or what you said in the past. It's much more over kind of your personal background, and that's what's tripping up P-Tech Seth right now. He's been answering that, I think, pretty aggressively and effectively with listening to Megan Kelly's interview with Megan Kelly yesterday. But those are the issues that are causing vulnerabilities for the nominees.

It remains to be seen whether sort of the ideological heterodoxy of someone like an R.F. Gate Jr. or Tulsi Gabbard, or in the case of Cash Patel, the fact that he basically wants to dismantle the FBI. He's said things that you don't usually hear from an incoming FBI director. Those positions, those things that are not kind of typical from Cabinet, the rhetoric that you don't hear from Cabinet Secretaries, that's not been the the type of political vulnerability that the personal issues have been.

That said, we don't we you know, because you kind of focus on one nominee at a time. We haven't really seen the oppo book thrown at Cash Patel. There's some of that stuff has been out there. But I still think he's going to face a challenging confirmation process. And by the way, Trump would have to fire the current FBI director, Chris Raid, in order to initiate the process.

So I think there's a lot more to come when it comes to Patel. My big question is whether the some of the more Democratic aligned nominees like a Kennedy and a Gabbard, whether Republicans would would possibly vote against them, because I think that's going to be the next big test. I do. I don't think this area thing until C. Gabbard.

I think with Gabbard, you get her in front of those committees. I think she'll be great. They're very good communicators in RFK as well, even with his voice challenges. Joni Ernst, when we look at Pete, he can only lose three. They all can only lose three.

Joni Ernst seems on the fence, but not out. She says, I appreciate Pete Hakes, that service to our country, something we both shared today as part of the confirmation process. We had a frank and thorough conversation. How do you read between the lines there? Is it still up in the air?

Well, look, Joni Ernst is the bellwether vote in the Senate just because she's been very supportive of most of Trump's nominees. But she also has been a very outspoken supporter of women in combat, has been a bit of critic and worked with Democrats on fighting sexual misconduct in the military.

So she's very, I mean, she's undecided, but I will say that usually you kind of expect some kind of sort of pro forma support from Republicans, from your party and for her kind of to stay on the fence, to be sort of neutral about it, not the greatest sign in the world. But I think that she can be convinced that I've heard folks close to the Iowa senator that, you know, like that that that's what these meetings are all about to make the case, and we'll see where the chips fall. Hmm. Yeah, I guess, Josh, we will. I mean, some of these things on Pete are ridiculous.

Listen to the Washington Post story. Hex says on a St. Patrick's Day segment. Higgs had walked by the display of different beers and drank each one of the had a sip of each one of the beers. I mean, are you kidding me?

You're going back to display segments on Fox and Friends weekend in order to fuss make believe that he is I mean, you gotta be kidding. Yeah, look, I really have a problem, just basic journalistic credibility. You should have at least one when you're dealing with such charged accusations, you've got to have someone on the record. You've got to have something that shows that there's someone that's willing to put their name to these personal attacks.

So I you know, the New Yorker, I live with Jane Mayer who wrote the piece in the New Yorker. Like she's had a long hit to the Kavanaugh. Her pieces on Kavanaugh have not really stood up over time.

So there are a lot of journalistic concerns. This goes back to Jeff Bezos and his some of the problems he's had with some of the activism in the newsroom. That said, there are you know, I think the bigger question for Pete is like managing a big bureaucracy at the Pentagon. That's that's a big, big, big, big step up. And that's also a big question that some of these senators have.

All right, go get him. Josh Kashar, it's going to be a very interesting few weeks. Nothing slows down leading up to Inauguration Day. And then we got this thing about Trump, too, actually governing for the next four years, which will be exciting. Josh, thank you.

Thanks, Brian. When we come back, Lawrence Jones joins us here at the LI at LAU, the site of the Patriot Awards, the sixth annual, and this is the Tilla Center where we're coming from right now. You listen to the Brian Kilmead Show. Don't move. Diving deep into today's top stories, it's Brian Kilmead.

Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. Fox's friends own Lawrence Jones, the same guy you just saw on television from six to nine on Fox and Friends. You see him all over, from the barbershops to the diners, is now standing by, extended his morning where he could go back to the hotel. And relax and recalibrate, Lawrence, but you stuck around for radio for me, and for that I'm honored.

Because I'm deciding to go back to college. And you're going to give me a tour, let me enroll. That way, I can have a degree from the same place you.

Well, you go for your master's. This is true. And they have a veterinarian school. You love dogs. Or I can get something in international relations so I can be astute like you.

Maybe they give me the Jack King segment every Friday. If you want to watch, you know who does this? Katie, my daughter, Katie. When I talk foreign relations with her, she will literally yawn.

So, ha! But, I mean, I go, why are you doing that? I'm like, you know, no, no, I didn't even realize that.

Sometimes I look at you and I can see your eyes rolling, and I start talking about NATO or international relations, but we actually agree a lot. You and Katie? But there's some disagreement between me and you on operational things. I do believe that we've got to have a strong military. We're in lockstep of that.

What we do extensively across the world. No, we don't get rid of the platform bases where we are, but maybe not as much as money foreignly. But that's about ninety ten that we agree. That's good. This guy I'm I'm relieved.

I'm really so yeah.

So so a couple of things.

So you you stuck around for this. And I appreciate it. I was in touch with somebody higher up with the Trump team, and talks have already begun between. Trump? The Kellogg group, you know, General Kellogg got the assignment.

Go bring this fighting to an end. Envoy. And he has his staffer. meeting with the staffer Ukraine And there's a willingness among the Russians to talk as well. Amazing.

And then that person followed up with the Trump effect is real.

Well, it is real, and I think the center of the foreign policy of Donald Trump, it starts with strength. Everyone always talks about he says he doesn't want any war. They forget the peace is through the strength.

So you got to send a message of deterrence that if you don't. Negotiate with peace, then we will hit you. Absolutely. And I think that's the center of this Trump effect right now. And I believe I'm getting word from one of the biggest untold that we didn't emphasize enough today in the show.

Okay. Donald Trump's going to be here tonight. You've been in contact with him. How's Donald Trump? How happy has he been?

Describe his mood since he won. I would say that he's in this peaceful state. The fight is over. And I think the one thing that people get wrong about Donald Trump is like he just wants to fight, fight, fight, fight, fight. I don't think that's true.

He he describes it like a UFC fight. You beat the hell out of each other and, you know, there's blood and everything like that. But after that, you hug it out. And I think that's how he feels right now. He wants to work with Democrats.

He wants an agenda that's for the American people that he ran on, but he really genuinely wants everyone. He knows that they're not going to agree on everything, but the 80% that they can't agree on, he wants to do that. Right. I mean, he pulled Matt Gates back. He didn't have fits and starts and go out on truth social and say things.

He realized he tried. That's it.

So, another thing that I love, what I hated during the inaugural is all these so-called big acts outside Toby Keith who pull back. And they say, We're not going to go to the inaugural. We don't want the Republican stain on us. And then we watch the women's march and everything. Not only is that not the case now, especially in the country music world, YMCA, one of the president's favorite songs.

Now it turns out the village people are rethinking their push for him not to use their song. The 78-year-old, one of the village people, his name is Victor Willis, 72, said he has a change of heart. I noticed that Trump really likes the song, and he really seems to have a lot of fun with it. And after paying attention to the way the song has gotten so much attention, people paying attention to the song again. I told my wife, you know, let him keep doing it.

You know, he likes the song, and that's why I changed my mind. Also, there's something else to this story. Another reason why he might have changed his mind. It's number one. And?

It's giving them millions of dollars again. People are downloading it for the first time since Elvis was alive.

So, can we talk about this two ways? I've never understood The entertainers that were anti-Trump when he was promoting this stuff. I mean, it's just not good business. If he's promoting your music, you know, he has a huge, even if you disagree with the people that support him, you know, they do whatever he endorses. They go out there and personally.

They download. They download. And so it's kind of like the whole Michael Jordan thing of Republicans. Vice sneakers, too. But I do think the second prong to this is that there is a unifying message in the country right now.

People are loving on each other. Remember, Brian, we were talking about the riots that were going to happen. They were boarding up buildings. You know, New York City had, you know, the railing out, prepared for the worst. That didn't happen.

Right. It didn't happen because people are, they want to change. Hey, Eric, if you could, if there was any of those Chicago, those people from Chicago that spoke up for Trump and against the mayor, tell me when you have it ready. But I just got to ask you this in particular. Tonight, he could have easily missed tonight.

He had to be in France. He was invited to the opening in Notre Dame. Why do you think he chose? He's excited about. He is so excited.

2,500 people at the Tiller Center of the Patriot Awards jumped behind. Loves his people. He loves the country, first of all. But he he there's this you know, I always thought it was weird that Kamala Harris did not go out and talk with her people when she lost the election. She waited like a whole other day.

He would never do that. And I remember the first assassination tip, and I talked to him the next morning. And I was on air doing our coverage for Fox and Friends. And he's walking me through the story about what happened that day during the assassination. He says.

Lawrence, I looked at the people and they were all standing there. After I had been shot, he goes, Normally, when someone gets shot or there's gunshots, there's a stampede. He goes, I could not leave my people, I could not leave them if they were there cheering. And he goes, I looked at him and I said, Fight, fight, fight. I think that's the personality.

That's who the man is, and it's genuine. And you know, we don't have time to play it now, but I do. The people of Chicago stood up against their mayor and for the president. That's incredible. They want illegal immigration stopped, and they want their people to work with Tom Holman.

And I think I would love for the president to go back to the barbershop, go back to Chicago, Los Angeles, New York City, and talk to the people. I'm going to look and help your life and put pressure on these other politicians. Brian, you've been talking about it for a while. I've been talking about it for a while. Donald Trump was the first Republican to do it.

Right. Lawrence Jones will be there tonight at the Patriot Awards. It starts when Lawrence arrives. It will not start until Lawrence walks back at the building with a Tux, which is the same size as mine. Believe it or not, the same size Tux.

From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmead. Thanks so much for being here, everybody. It's the Brian Kilmey Show. I come to you from the college I went to right after the morning show here from 6 to 9 a.m.

Fox and Friends were now in action today on the Brian Kilmey radio show. And then tonight I'll be signing books here, Red Carpet, and then be part of the Patriot Awards hosted by Sean Hannity, where a lot of special things will happen, including the appearance of President Trump.

So, if you don't have Fox Nation, now is the perfect time to do it. He has not appeared anywhere. I don't believe outside Mar-a-Lago since he won, then he's going to France. He's really running the country in many ways right now.

So, let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. While he does have a comfort level with violence and gunplay, the way he took a combat stance, cleared that weapon, casually walked up. I do not see him as a master assassin. He did a lot of things right, he did a lot of things wrong.

My guess is he's out of state. Wow, Bill Stanton weighing in of the assassination of a powerful CEO, gunned down in Midtown Manhattan, and the manhunt continues for this guy. We only know a mask over his face. He looks about 5'8, and it looks like he put together a gun that jammed three times, but he did shoot and kill with those three shots. The questions, the video, and what we now know about the assassin.

Number two. The allegation was made about him being intoxicated several times, and so the questions that Every member will be asking him let to subdue altogether if he becomes secretary. Senator Wicker, weighing in after meeting with the great Pete Hegseth, who could be the next Secretary of Defense, about personal allegations, nothing about his qualifications. Trump Team 2, Hegset fights for his defense post. What traps lay ahead as we look at the new names on board as Trump fills out his roster in other areas?

Number Reducing the federal employee headcount is not really about saving cost. That's either been a misunderstanding or mischaracterization. I think that part of what you have is an overgrown federal government that is doing things that were never supposed to be done by the federal government in the first place.

That is interesting. Doge in D.C., Musk and Vivek storm the Capitol, talking to lawmakers about their ideas to cut trillions from our budget and also listen. And surprisingly, some Dems seem to be on board. Mark Thiessen joins us now. By the way, if you get the Fox News app, you can always watch us.

We are streaming now, even though we're on location in the lobby of the Tilla Center. Mark, tonight's Patriot Awards are going to be special, but so is what's happening in Capitol Hill today. Put in perspective what Vivek and Musk are trying to do.

Well, there's a ton of waste and duplication and money that's being spent in Washington that needs to be fixed.

Now, look, this is not going to solve our debt problem. It's sort of like when the Democrats say we're going to tax the rich, well, there's not enough rich people in order to fund everything you want to do. You're going to have to tax the middle class if you want to do all those things. It's the same thing with cutting spending. Like 90% of the spending is mandatory spending on things like Social Security and Medicare.

But what they're doing is they're taking the approach that every tax dollar that goes to Washington was earned by the sweat of a hardworking American, and we need to treat it with respect and not waste it. And so we can save a lot of money, and we can do the taxpayers a service by spending their money wisely and not wasting it. And so they can go through and find hundreds of millions or billions or even a few trillion dollars in waste. Useful spending, that's not going to solve our debt problem, but it's going to make the government more efficient and it's going to treat the American people with greater respect, which is what Donald Trump campaigned on. I mean, look, for example, Social Security payments might not change, but how we give those Social Security payments to the people could.

Is there something about payroll, the way it's done? And he has run into people that have had big corporations and how that could come into play. And is there redundancy and the closing up of buildings that don't exist and holding on to jobs that we don't need? It could be all part of it. And then I'm just getting so encouraged reading Walter Iserson's book on Elon Musk.

I did not know cost cutting and time saving was so important to him. I always thought he was more the inventor and turned the CFO and told me, you know, clean this up. He would be walking, just staring at assembly lines, going under cars, asking people details, in which I think he's going to do the same thing in the government. He becomes obviously obsessed with that. But, Mark, you write today about Ukraine.

Why?

Well, so this is the anniversary of the Budapest Memorandum, which is one of the worst agreements that the United States has ever been a party to. And 30 years ago, when the Soviet Union collapsed, Ukraine became the third largest nuclear power in the world. They had 2,000 strategic missiles, bombers, ICBMs that they inherited from the Soviet Union.

So Bill Clinton went in and said, give those up. And in exchange, Russia will agree to respect your sovereignty. And the United States will give you security guarantees that we will come to your help if your sovereignty is violated. And so Ukraine agreed. And if they had not given up their nuclear weapons, Russia wouldn't have invaded.

So, you know, Bill Clinton even admitted that this was a mistake. And so as Donald Trump tries to negotiate peace in Ukraine, he's got to learn the lessons of and heed the lessons of the failure of the Budapest Memorandum, which is that Russia doesn't want peace. They want Ukraine. That unless security guarantees are backed up by Western military might, they're never going to work. And we're going to have to arm Ukraine no matter what.

If Ukraine gave up its nuclear deterrent, if we want to stop another war from breaking out after he negotiates peace, they're going to have to have a massive conventional deterrent. And so whether or not there's peace, we're going to have to find a way to arm Ukraine. It doesn't have to be with U.S. taxpayer dollars. In fact, it shouldn't be because we've given $150 billion.

That's we've saved Ukraine. That's enough. We got to transition them from being a defense an aid recipient to a defense consumer like Poland and our NATO allies are. But we're going to have to arm them in order to maintain the peace or to force Russia to the table. Wall Street Journal reports that the talks have already begun with Kellogg's has somebody out there representing him.

General Kellogg has got the assignment of bringing an end to the fighting in the area, and so is Ukraine. They brought their guy over. And I just talked to, I've been texting, trying to get permission to use his name, but I can't. Yet, I've been texting with someone close to Trump, and he says that their overtures to Russia have been received well. He says so far, he said the Trump effect is real.

Ukraine also is at the table.

So these are war-weary countries. Also, there's reports that have nothing to do with this, is that Ukraine is helping create unrest in Syria to further distract Russia and make their life even more miserable. Because, you know, as Russia takes their eye off Syria, in come the Salafist Sunnis to try to take over that country and destroy Assad and maybe kick them out of their deep water ports. Yeah, I mean, Russia is overstretched, but Putin, what we have to make sure is, first of all, I think that Donald Trump can negotiate an agreement that's worthy of a Nobel Prize, just like he did with Abraham Accords. If there's anybody who can do this, it's Donald Trump.

But it has to be something that, if you look at the pattern, what did Putin do? He invaded Ukraine in 2014 under Obama and Biden. Then Donald Trump came in and he did nothing because he was afraid of Donald Trump. And then, as soon as Donald Trump left, a weak president came in and he resumed his invasion. If Donald Trump doesn't want to have that happen again, if he wants to have an agreement that will go down in history as having ended this war forever, he's got to do it in a way that doesn't allow Putin to resume his conquest.

The Ukrainians want to end the war. They didn't want to start the war to begin with. It's Putin who's going to have to be convinced. to stop his conquest of Ukraine, and that's going to take a lot more than just bringing him to the table.

Well, yeah, that's true. We'll see what happens when they're there. But, you know, we look at these numbers and we see that now 32 percent of Russia's economy is now being spent on defense spending.

Okay?

Now you see all the defections and the brain drain that they've experienced, and they have between maybe 500,000 to 700,000 of their fighting men are off the battlefield, some of which are dead. And now they have to call on other countries to help them out.

Now they're paying the price, but maybe they just don't care about pain. But if you told them that they would pay this price for this war, there's no way they would do it again.

So in many ways, when that door closes at the Kremlin, you know they look at each other and say, this has been a disaster. Yeah, but I mean, Putin is obsessed with doing this. He wants Ukraine. And also, by the way, keep in mind that one of the reasons he wants Ukraine is because Ukraine has $26 trillion worth of natural resources. They have the largest uranium deposits in Europe, some of the largest titanium deposits in Europe, some of the largest rare earth deposits in Europe.

And at a time when China is right now, Clamping down on our access to rare earths that we need for our cell phones, for electric cars, for everything that uses a lithium-ion battery. They have huge lithium deposits too in Ukraine. Putin wants that, all those resources for Russia and China.

So the question we have to ask ourselves is, do we want those resources to go to Russia and China so they can so they can keep them from us? Or do we want it in a free country, a friendly country to us that will make those available to the United States?

So we got a lot of re interest in having this happen in a way that's and in a way that is favorable to Ukraine. Has that been explained to Trump? I'm right now working on the essay in the Washington Post. And the thing is, also, is that so going forward, the way we have to arm Ukraine whether or not there's peace, right? The idea that we're going to stop arming Ukraine is it doesn't make any sense because either they're going to have to keep fighting if Putin doesn't agree to peace or they're going to have to be able to deter him.

How do you do that? Number one, instead of aid, instead of the taxpayers funding it, you lend them the weapons guaranteed with Ukrainian natural resources as collateral.

So they pay us back based by allowing by with the they borrow the money and they pay us back using these natural resources that we can develop together. And second of all, there's three hundred billion dollars in Russian frozen assets in Europe. Why don't we get that for America? Why and the way to do that is give the money to in a fund to Ukraine. They can use that money to buy weapons from the United States.

So Ukraine gets its weapons, Putin pays for it, and we get the money. It seems like a no-brainer to me. No doubt about it. And we do have to find a way, and Roger Wicker, I guess, is working on that, to expand our defense manufacturing base. We just don't have it right now.

I think it's very interesting what Kelvin is coming out of the The Reagan Defense Forum, National Defense Forum. What's coming out is a survey shows America does want peace, truth, and strength. They do want a stronger military. They are supportive of supporting Ukraine. A lot of surprising things: 57% of respondents said America should take the lead in the world.

That includes 59% of Trump voters and 61%, if there's a difference, of MAGA Republicans, asked whether the U.S. should maintain their military bases around the world. 62% of Americans said yes, and 62% of Trump voters and 63% of so-called MAGA Republicans say yes.

So there is no difference. We still feel the same. It's who's behind the wheel is the big thing. Yeah, so there's this myth of MAGA isolationism. MAGA voters are not isolationists.

They want a strong American leader. What they don't like about Biden is that he's weak. What they like about Trump is that he's strong. They don't want to retreat behind a fortress America. And by the way, Donald Trump was never an isolationist as president.

This is the guy who waked off some Soleimani. This is the guy who bombed Syria twice for using chemical weapons on its people. This is the guy who destroyed the ISIS Caliphate. I don't know another President in my lifetime who flexed American military muscle so effectively to avoid war and to keep the peace.

So, you know, MAGA voters aren't isolationists. Trump is an isolationist. And I think there's a lot of people out there who seem to think that have a wrong understanding of his voters. Um and of him. Mark, how do you think Senator Rubio will do a Secretary of State?

I think he'll be outstanding. He's a fantastic choice. Mike Waltz is a fantastic choice for a national security adviser. I think he's getting a Keith Kellogg running doing the Ukraine the Ukraine portfolio is terrific. He's making a lot, a lot of great choices.

All right. Mark Thiessen, thanks so much. Read him out in the Washington Post. See him all over the channel. Mark, thank you.

Take care. All right, listen, when we come back, we have to take your calls for the first time. I come to you from the Tillet Center, but still got the same capabilities. 1-866-408-7669. Patriot Awards in just a matter of hours, featuring Donald Trump, hosted by Sean Hannity.

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We're going to talk to. Reported from the free press to talk about something that not many people are discussing but could be affecting you. Do you remember? when those truckers refused to leave in Canada. And what they ended up doing is trying to bankrupt them.

They froze their bank accounts. They made it impossible for them to bank. And I don't really know what happened to them. I have a hard enough time keeping up with American news, let alone Canadian news. But a lot of that is happening here, the debanking of America.

We're going to discuss that with them. And you would think it's not talking about we're not talking about the mob or anything. We're just talking about people that are maybe involved in crypto or might go from a different political party than the one they're in, which is pretty scary as a precedent. And if I found out that Donald Trump's administration was doing that, I don't think you'd ever allow it. I think it would just be just as wrong.

It dates back to the Obama years when they were trying to get some corrupt people and stop them from doing banking and making profits, which I can understand when you have an international cartel making money off, I don't know, an American bank, Citibank, you want to put it to a close. And that is also that is also very similar, by the way, to You know, uh, when you when you debang people, that's a way of tracking and stopping terrorist activities, which we got great at, by the way. Uh, Joe is on Long Island. Hey, Joe. Uh Brian, good morning.

Hi, Brian. Can you hear me? Go ahead, you're on. Oh, okay, I'm on. I want to advocate for Pete's headset.

He's a man for this job. I'm very disappointed if they're going to go with DeSantis. I mean, he's a Bush's puppet, a globalist. We fought hard against him, DeSantis. He doesn't deserve this if they're looking at him.

And Pete is the right guy. We fought World War II with 18 and 25-year-olds. This man's got the he's got the character. No conservative. My wife's very conservative.

Couldn't care less about his relationships or anything from seven, eight years ago. Pete has proven himself, and I really advocate. He's a good, great patriot. I hear you. He's still fighting.

He's on Capitol Hill right now. I texted him this morning. I said, where are you going to be? Because rumors were he was going to Mar-a-Lago. He said, no, I'm going to be on Capitol Hill all day talking to as many centers as possible.

Good job, Joe. Joe is on Long Island. That's where we are right now at the Tilla Center, home of Long Island University, where the Patriot Awards are tonight. Joe is in New Hampshire. Hey, Joe.

Hi, good morning. It looks like the Bidens are insulating themselves from any kind of accountability from a legal point, what they're trying to do to President Trump. not going to happen to them. But I think an excellent strategy For the dep new department of um You know, the Justice Department is to go after the Biden, all the Biden ill-gutten money. You sue them like O.

J. Simpson was sued though, a civil suit. Freeze all the assets of the Biden crime family.

So they can't enjoy anything but his retirement from government. You can't touch government. Hey, Joe, I hear you. I hear you. I'm not for retribution either.

But I mean, to think that somebody can go get $20 million, not pay taxes on it, and get pardoned from stuff that we don't even figured out how they got the money yet is insane. And I think that one thing I want people to understand. Uh It's not about somebody straightening themselves out, getting off drugs, hookers, and whatever else he's on. This is about someone lying to you to get the job in 2020, trying to destroy people who brought it up about the job they did, about the international business thing and the role Joe Biden did, and then pardoning his son and fight out lying. But what he did, and he doesn't fully understand it yet.

Is he alienated his own side, who took his side? When he pulled the rug out from under him, they went over to Angola to nod off in a luncheon. Brian kill me, Chill. Don't move. The fastest three hours in radio.

You're with Brian Kilmead. Increasingly, bad actors like fake colleges and big chain corporations have been exploiting our immigration system for their own interests.

So we're doing something major. We're reducing the numbers of immigrants that will come to Canada. For the next three years. Today, I'm going to let you in on what happened, where we made some mistakes. and why we're taking this big turn.

So, Justin Trudeau addressing the Canadian people in a highly produced video that talked about stats as people and his vision.

So, why am I bringing you Canadian news? Because it always affects here our neighbors to the north. He was also at Mar-a-Lago after Donald Trump said your borders have been a mess. Your lack of coordination and crackdown on illegal immigration is hurting us, especially when it comes to fentanyl. And I'm going to hit you with a 25% tariff.

He quickly said, let's talk. And then he said, let me come over and visit you, and that's where he spent last weekend. But right now, the Liberals in Canada are losing ground to the Conservatives amongst young people. And that was written about in the free press by an outstanding reporter columnist, Rupa Subramanaya. And Rupa joins us now.

Rupa, welcome back. Thanks, Brian, for having me. Great to be here. Yeah. Yes, so first off, in Canada, I know people are listening right now and saying, why should we care about Canada?

It really matters a lot, and it seems to be trending the same way we're trending. Young people looking elsewhere feeling let down by Democrats. Absolutely. So the piece that you referred to, which published today in the Free Press, I point to this growing disillusionment among young Canadians with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. Initially, there was a strong base of support among these young Canadians.

They gravitated towards Justin Trudeau back in twenty fifteen when he first became Prime Minister because he promised them everything, including the legalization of cannabis, which really seemed to animate them at that point. But now they find themselves in this position where they're grappling with high taxes, there's affordability and housing crisis in this country, high inflation and economic stagnation.

So policies like marijuana legalization and his social progressive agenda were basically seen as are now being seen as insufficient to address your basic bread and butter issues. And what's ended up happening is that younger voters are increasingly shifting support to the Conservative Party led by Pierre Polyevre. And they cite dissatisfaction with Trudeau's handling of the economy and rising cost of living challenges as their key concerns.

So The numbers are pretty high.

Now we have 40 he's had the other party has 43% of the young vote. How high is that compared to past years and where Justin Trudeau came in on? Oh. Uh he swept the votes of young Canadians, they powered his rise back in twenty fifteen and there was a record voter turnout back in twenty fifteen when he became Prime Minister.

So what's happening right now is basically he's hemorrhaging that the that vote base is at this point. He's just losing these people and they've just lost interest in his social progressive agenda. Is that why an immigration, legal immigration, is now popular? Because it's taking away opportunity and affecting the housing market. Do you think that's why he cut the tape he cut, talking about the need to limit immigration?

Absolutely. So our problems here in Canada are not illegal immigration, although that is also happening, but it's not happening in great numbers. It's not as significant as what's happening at the southern border with the U. S. Legal migration has been a huge issue among Canadians where lots of people have come in and they've basically taken away jobs that should that were meant for young people, young students, high school students, of students in universities.

These are minimum wage jobs. We basically imported a whole bunch of people from countries like India to work at coffee shops or as Uber drivers when these jobs were meant for young people as a summer job or to pay off student loans and so on. And that's created a great amount of discontent. A country that valued immigration and believed in immigration is now souring on immigration, which is extraordinary. Yeah, and by the way, we're talking to We're talking all about what's going on in Canada and then Justin Trudeau to show up in Mar-a-Largo.

And before I leave that, are you surprised he did that? I'm actually quite surprised, and I must say that I think that was the right thing to do. I think it's best to be proactive. I wish he had done this before Trump became president, because anybody who is watching the US elections, including myself and those of us at the Free Press, we knew where things were headed. And I think he should have had that foresight to do what he did long before Trump became president.

The point is that Justin Judea has actually been very critical of a Trump victory before the elections and has been warning Canadians that this is going to be a huge challenge for us and with the usual things that one does when talking about Trump. If you're a liberal, that this is the rise of the far right and we should be concerned and so on. I wish he had toned down that criticism early on and then actually been proactive in going Going to Trump, President Trump, and sitting down with him and having a conversation. Because they have a lot of things that they help to help each other with. We're talking now to Rupa.

Subranaya, and she writes for the Free Press. The other story I found fascinating and disturbing is you talk about debanking. And I have to remember the first time I heard debanking is what was happening to the truckers in Canada. All of a sudden, because they had their accounts frozen, and who knows if they were able to have unfrozen. I didn't really track the story afterwards, but they really destroyed their lives for standing up for their own industry, which was nuts for our neighbors to the north.

And now you have debanking, and the headline tells it all. What do Muslims, January 6 riders, and Melania Trump have in common? They've both been frozen out of their bank accounts who are told to bank elsewhere, right? Absolutely. So there's this rising trend of debanking in America where financial institutions close accounts or deny services, perhaps due to political, ideological, or controversial associations that their clients may have.

So in my story, I looked at examples that involve conservatives, Christians, Muslims, and others, including the January 6th those who participated in the January sixth riots, and of course, prominent figures like Melania and Baron Trump.

So really a diverse set of individuals and groups, a diverse set of Americans. And what's disturbing about this is that one of the many things that's disturbing about this is that how few people actually know about what is happening with respect to debanking. I reached out to a range of different experts at various places, and they were hearing about it for the first time from me. And what I want to say is that this historical precedent to debanking, which began with Operation Chokepoint, and I detailed that quite a bit in my story, it was a U. S.

Department of Justice initiative that targeted businesses deemed high risk for fraud.

So example, they went after firearms dealers, payday lenders and so on by pressuring banks and financial institutions to sever ties with these folks. And a lot of people at that time criticized what was happening because it bypassed due process and unfairly stigmatized legal industries. Yeah, it's nuts. And a lot of people don't ever get an explanation. They're not criminals.

They're in Bitcoin. They're not criminals. They might be Republicans. Listen to Melania Trump talk about this, Cut 30. When we left the White House, when I established my own business, the bank suddenly informed me they will not be able to do business with me anymore.

Also, I had a very prominent email distribution service provider just abruptly terminated my agreement.

So suddenly, as well as the university, I was all agreed that they will accept my donations for the foster students. And because of the board directors, they call back, they find out that it was me. They said we cannot go on. It's very, very sad because who? Who suffered?

children from foster community. You know, after January 6th, we have to isolate the Trumps, right? Yeah. Absolutely. And so what happened on January 6th is truly, truly disturbing.

And one of the, you know, I spoke to an FBI whistleblower, George Hill. He's retired now, but he testified before the House Judiciary Committee a couple years ago. And he said that Bank of America actually volunteered all of this information to the FBI without any predication. The FBI did not even wasn't even asking for this information, but they volunteered the banking information of anyone who was there on January 6th in and around the DC area.

So even if you bought a cup of coffee, you wound up on this list that the FBI should be looking at. You could have purchased a firearm like 15 years ago and you'd be on that list. And what's problematic about this is that the banks just volunteered this information, and one of the questions I had. While writing the story, is well, why would you volunteer this information when you're not being asked for it? And therein lies the problem.

And we don't, you know, because they're political animals, just like the people that wanted to disturb Donald Trump in this case, but it could be Democrats next. I hope it isn't. Absolutely. But it's all for political purposes. That's what you're saying.

Yeah, absolutely, because one day the shoe is going to be on the other foot and it's not going to be nice. And the bottom line here is that the Bank Secrecy Act, which was strengthened after nine eleven, the idea was to go after terrorists in foreign countries, foreign terrorists. But the same tools then were used to weaponize the financial system against ordinary Americans. You could be a school you could be a parent objecting to something that is being taught at your child's school and then you become a domestic terrorist. And those are the same tools that are being weaponized against average Americans for speaking out.

It's crazy, and they go into the bank accounts. Lastly, this. Mark Anderson, a venture capitalist, very successful, got the bank too. Listen to what he told Joe Rogan. As marijuana started to become legal, as prostitution started to become legal, and then guns.

Under the Obama administration, they started to de-bank legal marijuana businesses, escort businesses, and then gun shops, just like your gun manufacturers. And just like you're done, you're out of the banking system. And so if you're running a medical marijuana dispensary in 2012, like you, guess what? You're doing your business all in cash because you literally can't get a bank account. You can't get a visa terminal.

You can't process transactions. You can't do payroll. You can't do direct deposit. You can't get insurance. Like, none of that stuff is sanctioned.

None of that stuff is available. And then this administration extended that concept to apply it to tech founders, crypto founders, and then just generally political opponents.

So that's been super pernicious. I wasn't aware of that. Oh, 100%. And this is called Operation Shoke Point 1.0 was 15 years ago against the pot and the guns. Shokepoint 2.0 is primarily against their political enemies.

And then to their disfavored tech startups. And it's hit the tech world like we've hard. We've had like 30 founders debanked in the last 40 years. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, it's been a big recurring pattern. 30. This is one of the reasons why we ended up supporting Trump. We can't live in a world where somebody starts a company that's a completely legal thing, and then they literally get sanctioned and embargoed by the United States government through a completely unaccountable. By the way, no due process.

None of this is written down. There's no rules. There's no court. There's no decision process. There's no appeal.

Who do you appeal to? Who do you go to to get your bank account back?

So pretty that just backs up your whole premise. Final thought? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. The lack of transparency is what's most disturbing about this.

I'm glad that Mark Andreessen raised this issue on Joe Rogan. And I'm glad that more people are now discovering that this is happening. And more people have come forward, actually, since Mark Andreessen spoke about this, talking about their own experiences of being debanked. I'll tell you, when I was writing this story, a lot of people just didn't want this attention because they were worried of being further debanked and then completely losing access to the financial system altogether. But things are starting to change.

And let me remind your listeners that it was Trump. who put an end to operation choke point in twenty seventeen. And the financial surveillance state did not expand under Trump. for whatever reason. But he put an end to operation choke point.

And I'm hoping that President Trump is listening to the concerns of Americans who've been debanked and puts an end to debanking altogether. All right. Thanks so much. Rupa, great having you. Reader columns in the free press.

I appreciate it. Thanks for joining us here.

So we are live from the Side of the Patriot Awards. We are at LIU Long Island University. And tonight around 8 o'clock, we'll hear some of the finest stories in America. Average, everyday people doing extraordinary things, finally getting the recognition they deserve. And get that on Fox Nation.

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When you look at this video, you could definitely. Say that this thing has been pre-planned. He must have followed him. He's known how long he's been in town from Minneapolis. He commits the shooting, the gun jams, he's able to um Free the round and walk up and calmly shoot him again and walk away, which tells me he knows.

He knew what he was doing. In my personal opinion, there was a lot of things he did right, but there's a couple of things he did wrong as far as the cell phone. If it is true that that cell phone they found a block away is his cell phone, that's pretty stupid of him, number one, to have a cell phone on him, and number two, to drop it on the scene. The other thing you got to be careful about is the cell phone could be a false flag. And that is retired the NYPD Lieutenant Bill McCordy.

And he was on with Laura last night talking about the assassination of the CEO who has got himself, he had some financial problems, accused of insider trading when he sold off a whole bunch of United Healthcare stock. But he was gunned down in the middle of the street. Obviously, people knew he was staying at the Hilton. He was going to be speaking there, and he was heading over to a series of events with investors.

So they were getting, he says he was getting death threats, according to his wife. But right now, they have a guy, and if you have not seen the video, he's wearing a mask that leaves his nose exposed in a hoodie. But as people have said, if you listen, if you're an expert, you wear glasses. And number two is, you know, you don't go to Starbucks right across the street and give it other cameras. You have to be aware that there are cameras on every block in New York City.

That's one thing that's pretty clear.

So, this guy is out. He got himself, got an e-bike, and got himself into Central Park, and then he seemed to have disappeared. John Walsh, you've seen it all. He's now host of In Pursuit. He was on America's Most Wanted forever.

And here's this: Cut 19. I don't think it's a pro. I've been doing this for years, and I've never really done a case. I've never came across a really good pro because if they're really good, you don't know they're a pro. This guy made a lot of mistakes.

He wasn't wearing sunglasses. A real pro would have been wearing sunglasses so that they couldn't get him with facial recognition. He had a half-ass gun. He probably learned how to build it on YouTube or something like that. I think he was smart.

Yeah, he went on, cut twenty. I heard you say earlier today you thought someone may have paid him. But I think about the stock deal and I think the trouble that the company got into, you never know when people are hurt. And this company hurt a lot of doctors, couldn't get their money. And this guy had some heat on him, but obviously very successful to be 50 with two kids in high school, and now he is gunned down in the streets of New York City.

Hard to believe this can happen, just blocked from our studio. You listen to the Brian Kill Me Show. Don't move. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead.

Hi everyone, welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kill Meet Show.

So glad you're here. We're lucky to be at the Tiller Center in Long Island University, the site of the Patriot Awards, the sixth annual Patriot Awards. This will probably be the biggest and best ever. It will certainly be historic because the president-elect will be here. And normally, he does so many interviews, says yes to so many people.

Uh and it's great. But Will Kane has joins me here right before he does his podcast. Second biggest guest of the day. No, maybe first. I don't know.

You tell me. Would you go Trump Kane or Kane Trump on like You put me on the spot. I don't really know. I think you can flip a coin, and I do. And a lot of times, like, who do you want to book?

Wilcane or Trump? And I go, just flip a coin. And uh maybe that's again the story today. Oh, maybe I um But Trump has not done any interviews. How shocking is that since winning?

I don't know. Sometimes you make me laugh.

Sometimes you're good. And then there's other times. No, but you mean since the election, basically? And since the cabinet nomination was a little bit more difficult. I just said, listen, I know he's going to be there even if he had five minutes.

He goes, we promised someone else the first interview. And I wrote, a wee on the first interview? I go, you have not done any interviews? They were aware of that. We promised someone else the.

Oh, he's doing Kristen Welker right now. That just came out yesterday. He sat down with NBC News' Chris Welker. You got big leagues by Kristen Welker. How could TB do it?

Are you kidding? Brian's looking at his producers right now. I'm serious. No, it's true. Why would he do that shot?

I already saw the still shot. I think they've taped it. And by the way, she got so much blowback. She made her. She made her first interview on Meet the Press with him and she got so much blowback.

Well, she's ant uh She's NBC, right? Yeah. She should go for Chuck Todd. They just, by the way, there was a time and place, there was a day when I knew who hosted Meet the Press, Face the Nation, the evening. I couldn't have told you what you just said.

Like, I didn't know she's.

So she's doing Meet the Press. That's what her job is.

So go for Chuck Todd. Who was basically told to move out? It shows how little influence that show has anymore. Really, truly. It doesn't matter.

Um. But I she is NBC News. She's anti-Trump. I respect that you go into the lion's den. I actually respect the willingness to go to go confront those that disagree with you, but don't reward it.

I will say that. Don't reward it. She is anti-Trump. NBC just put out this horrific piece. You guys did a good job, by the way, yesterday on Fox and Friends Morning.

I appreciate that. About. Pete Hegg says drinking, right? Horrific piece. Ten anonymous former Fox employees.

I went to Twitter, X, and I just said, Look, I've been sitting next to this dude for eight hours a week for five years, starting at 6 a.m. You didn't call me one. And true, I two, I can tell you, your story is total BS. Total.

Okay?

And then I asked for everybody that knows to jump in on that, and we're up to twenty four talk on X, twenty four people going, No, never. And then I saw you and Lawrence and Ainsley and Steve yesterday saying the same thing. You said it before this stuff came out. You were like, you can't be a drunk and do morning television. Right.

And you pointed out he, by the way, often guest hosts Ingram or Hannity the night before. Right. And then wakes up. That's a quick turnaround. Can I just notice, too, that he will also swim with the Navy SEALs?

Not as well as you? Thank you. Right. I really appreciate that. It's really hard to have an outcome.

It's a lot of peace time in the limelight. I feel like this is peacetime, and that comes with the good and the bad, but I appreciate accuracy in reporting about my swimming experience.

Well, you're a ringer. You're a ringer because you are a swimmer. Yeah. By trade. Yeah, by trade.

Which, by the way, the loneliest, the loneliest sport, right? Oh, man. You just sit there and swim and think about other things you could be doing. My wife was a collegiate swimmer. I played water polling college swimmers at that point.

My boys are probably genetically predispositioned to be really good swimmers. I was like, no, man. That's literally. Do they even know how to swim? They know how.

They know how. They are not smooth swimmers. Like when you have dinner with your wife, do you even talk? Because you're used to swimming and not saying a word. Like, are you guys so comfortable in silence?

Maybe that's why I talk so much now. I got to get it off. It's true. Are you comfortable in silence? Absolutely.

You are? Absolutely. You're probably not. When I'm done with this, I need some silence. You do?

I know, like he told me this. Will says this, hey, what do you do? And I tell him what I do. He goes, Yeah, I couldn't do that. I need time to think.

And I'm like, okay, so I'm thoughtless. That's why I say that. That's the only thing I couldn't connect with. I just know here's what's going to happen when this show's over. Right here, this show that we're watching right now, the Brian Killman show.

On how many stations are we on now across the country? A lot, right?

Well, yeah, over 200. 200 stations.

So, what's going to happen as soon as this show is over? For me, I'm going to go over and do the Will Kane show. Will you sit before your show? And just there. Yeah.

Will you just sit in a lobby into nothingness? And then just dare people to ask you what you do. It's great. People don't know if you're a deep thinker or you're stupid. Or you lost your mind.

But I'm going to walk right over there and do the Wheel Cane Show on YouTube, Foxnews.com, and you're going to walk over to the security guard and start talking to him. No, I have a luncheon. Because this is my college. Of course you do.

So I'm going to I have a luncheon and then what are we. But you're on my show. They're reminding you and me. Oh yeah, I'm going to kick that off. I'll kick that off.

I'll get started. He's so nervous about starting his show on location. I go, Will, I'll stick around. Is that okay? And you go, Yes, I can relax now.

That never happened.

So, this is your old stomping grounds right here. Yeah. What I did is, I never saw the inside of this. True story. I worked the Rolling Carts bar.

On the outside, I got to keep the money for the Nutcracker. It was a two-week run. These words are having, I'm having a hard time connecting. Nutcracker? They probably shouldn't have said it like that.

Nutcracker. I should have said. Not Nutcracker. But you worked a rolling bar, the proceeds of which went in your pocket so you could go to the Nutcracker? No.

They'd be inside. Oh. Drinking. Oh. You know, it was a high-end cracker.

You were like a cart girl for the Nutcracker. Like on a golf course? Cart boy. Cart boy. So I had no gender dysphoria.

I knew I was a man. That's one of my great qualities. Definitely knew I was a man. Right. Right.

You too? What? You knew you were a man. Yeah, I think so.

So I would bartend on the outside and make some money and leave. I never got to the inside, and I didn't really realize that until recently. I never saw the inside of the Tilda Center. Why have we got a boom mic going right here, Avris? I mean, we're on the radio.

Is this s are we doing some special recording? This is us, isn't it? Is that NBC? Is that Kristen Welker? I really wouldn't recognize Kristen Welker.

No, she's interviewing the president. I got Wilcane. I got my first choice. No, I'm just trying to picture where we are here at Long Island University. Like, in 1972, if I had walked around here, would I have seen you, like you and your boys, long-haired, having a good time?

Okay, number one. 72 Iowa's Six. All right. 82. I graduated.

No, I came in in 82, left in 86.

Okay. And a little bit later, we'll go to the Sports Hall of Fame where we can visit my plaque. Yeah. Can I can I show tell him what we were going to do?

Okay, I might as well tell you. The cold open. Did you hear about our cold open? No, for the Patriot War.

So after you left, you guys hosted together. Uh peak came out here. And It was seriously. Yeah, so might as well should we say it now? This was going to be the cold open to the to the uh Patriot Awards.

So it was going to be Jimmy Phalo. He goes, I can't wait. He's going to be in a tux ready to go. And Jimmy goes, I can't wait for my ride. And Jimmy Phelo is going to turn up and like a 1960s cab.

And he goes, we're going to ride out with class. And Pete's going to go, what? I'm a cab driver. I'll talk the whole way.

So he gets out and we have just the cab. This is where I come in. Comes to my school, and Jimmy drops him off at the wrong side of the school. But don't worry about it. Because you're here.

Brian's kicking the ball on the soccer field, and Pete is in his tucks. And he goes, Brian, I'm lost. Where do you go? I go, Pete, what are you doing here? What do you have on the show?

What are you wearing kicking the ball on soccer for? Oh, I was just dressed casual because I have time for the show. No, was I dressed? Yeah, I was just dressed casual.

So I go, What are you doing? He goes, You got a host show? He said, I go to the Tilla Center. I go, Yeah, I go, You go out. I go, It's going to be hard for you.

Why don't I walk you there? And did you show up on stage in your soccer gear?

So I walk, don't jump ahead. I walk, but instead of Pete's in a massive rush, I go, Oh, Pete, this is the field I played on. Pete, this is the whole thing. Oh, this is my whole thing. You have any questions about this?

We took pictures, we took selfies. Then I go to here, here's the humanities, and then we finally get to the Tilla Center. And I go, You better hurry, you're going to be late.

So it was very funny. And the next day, Pete's announced as Secretary of Defense.

So the whole thing's killed. Whole thing. My afternoon and Pete's afternoon. Waste it. He won't be there tonight.

I'm surprised he didn't. You didn't AI Sean Hannity into it? No one's even acknowledged I did it. I mean this was a Saturday afternoon I gave up Pete he brought at least four of his children. Four of his children, they were running crazy the whole time.

So, like, we're doing a stand-up. He's like, hey, guys, follow me. What did I tell you? What's going on?

So he was parenting at the same time he's hosting. It was going to be brilliant. It was going to bring the house down. It would have been more important than Trump's appearance. Did you see the pause?

Because I did stop and look in his eyes because I was like. It's a debate. Is that a joke? Or does he believe it? In my mind.

I have a little bit of an ego issue. Uh all right, I want to play this clip because uh I know you'll deep think about it. It is uh the clip of Charlemagne. Charlemagne, who is a Democrat but a sensible person, I think, he goes on in the view. And he talks about the pardons.

And these people just show that they have no sense of normalcy. I think, Eric, by now you've figured out what it is. Cut number 21. Listen to this.

So I I this is where we have that last moment's the best part. Why can't you say when Democrats are wrong? Yeah, Charlemagne. I've never met Charlemagne. You have, right?

Monday. I'm gonna supposed to do a shoot with him on Monday. I'd like to meet him. He he he made me Donkey of the Day one time. You know he does Donkey of the Day?

Yeah, I I what did you do? I mean I actually might have been sports then or? Yeah, I might be multiple times over. I might actually have a couple of Donkey of the Days. But I know I have at least one.

But you find him interesting, right? Oh, I do. I do. But my point is he is not a centrist. He's not.

Whether or not he thinks of himself as that or not, I don't know. But he's not a centrist. He's on the left. But I guess he's just not a complete and utter hack like these ladies on the view. He wasn't gonna vote for Joe Biden.

He said I can't vote for this guy. Honestly, the ladies on the view and I'm not trying to be mean, but the r the only real debate are they complete and utter hacks, are they just Do they believe this? Do they believe what they say are they? Really not smart people. Really not smart people.

Well, you you say you know Sonny Hostin. I know he is smart. I know Whoopi. I was almost on The View. Did you know that?

No. Yeah. You would have been the man? First ever. There's no posted?

Yeah. What happened? It's a lot. I'd love to tell you. But I don't know if this is an on-air story or not.

But I started doing it. I did it four times.

Okay. Bill Getty was running The View at the time. And I met Whoopee and I met Jenny and I met Sherry. I don't think I've ever met, what's her name? Yeah.

Joy Behart. And um Uh no, I crushed it. I was killing it. Course. But were you a host?

Yeah, I sat at the table the whole show. Is this true? They don't have men hosting. They were going to. This was going to be the thing.

And I think in the end, they were going to do one gay guy and one straight guy, and they were two. You're straight. They were still trying to figure out which one I was going to be. Whatever it takes. You have bills to pay.

It was me and me and Ross Matthews. Remember that guy? High-pitched voice used to be on Jay Leno? Oh, yeah. That guy.

So, but it didn't, it got blown up. Yet he got fired. They brought in a different guy. But in the meantime I got to know Whoopi. I went out to her house twice.

And she was very friendly to me, very nice. Just you two? Uh-huh.

Well, one time was a Fourth of July party, no, and another time was just the two of us. And we had a conversation just kind of about career and da-da-da-da-da. And so, and then Sonny, I worked with at CNN. Yeah. And Sonny was super nice behind the scenes.

And she's an attorney. But I'll just tell you, I mean, this, I'd look at them in the eye and say this right there. Whoever you were then is not who you are on TV today. I don't know who you are off TV because I'm not around you. But whoever you are on TV is vastly different than the person that I knew off air.

What was it? 10 years ago. Wow. I pride myself on being the same person. I think you're the same person.

I truly believe that anybody that comes to the Patriot Awards tonight will meet the same guy on air as they meet off. And I pride myself on authenticity. I don't think it's the gold currency in this business. I think it's the low bar. Like, you've got to be real.

And then people decide if they like the real you or the real thoughts you have. But you've got to be real.

So I don't know what Sonny's doing. I don't know what Whoopee's doing. But it is not the gold standard. Right. And I think I have a theory, and it is Trump.

They thought, okay, this guy's crazy, and we're going to call him out on it, and we're going to take him on. And then after a while, he's there, he's not there. And no matter what they said, the American people put him back in, seemingly to ignore them, making them look at the mirror and say, how much power do I actually have? Like CNN, MSNBC, all the networks, all the newspapers. What type of influence did I think I have?

And am I going to look in the mirror and realize what I really have? Trump really did. And that's part of it. Trump really made people lose their mind. I mean, really did.

Or exposed their lost minds before. Before we go, I don't know your clock, so I don't know when we're done, but you brought up the Republican. I got one minute.

Okay. You said something, so I thought this was a seamless transition. I just want to ask a question to the audience that's listening right now. How is it fourteen Republican senators voted for Alejandro Mayorkis? Or no, th no, six voted for Alejandro Mayorkis, fourteen voted for Merrick Garland, all but seven Republican senators voted for Lloyd Austin.

To confirm those cabinet members. And today we're sitting here and they have questions over Pete Hegseth. If you think that Merrick Garland is okay and you have questions about Pete Hegseth, I think you might be in the wrong political party. Do you know what's the difference? When you look at Light Austin.

You had David Petraeus go to bat forum, Kelly go to bat. And by the way, he was never a great general. He was not great at CENTCOM. His Silver Star, we were talking about it last night. If you can read the write-up, he shouldn't have gotten that Silver Star.

He was asleep at the wheel, and his performance was hideous as Secretary of Defense, in my view. And we watched the whole military cave in. He never complained about the budget that was being sucked in. He never talked about the recruiting. And the numbers are stunning, how much we've lost on every branch.

But they will not look at Pete's record because Pete Records is great. They gotta stop him personally. And when a guy goes, Yeah, that was end, this is now, this is exaggeration, this never happened, but I never lived the perfect life. And I just wonder how many senators looking back at him could say, Oh, yeah, I've been perfect, you're not perfect. I mean, some of these that have questions about him, I'm reading, have some of the exact same flaws on their on their past.

Right. So Pete's like, just look at my record. You know what I thought we if you debate his book, If you debate his comments on Fox and Friends, you debate his speeches at various locations, he's ready to go. They know if he gets the nomination desk, he's going to win. Because you understand he's used to taking incoming verbally and throwing it back.

And he'll study and get the numbers down and talk about his vision of getting our Navy back. And then they have to be on the record, Brian, of voting yes or no. They don't want it to get that far as the point. These Republicans that are opposed to him want him to drop out now.

Well, he's on Capitol Hill. There was a rumor that he was going to Mar-a-Lago. But no, I texted him right after you came on. Oh, you did? And he came back to me.

He goes, I'm on Capitol Hill all day today. I don't know who told you that. And I said, okay, I didn't. I'm glad you did that. Yeah.

So I heard the same rumor. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I'm wondering about a lot of those things. There's been a lot of surprising things.

Is that right? You want to share? I wish we were against the break.

So I do know. See, unlike you, I do know my clock. Right? There you go. Look at it.

I'm here at my place. It's kind of nice. Will Cain. Right? Two lights.

You have two lights? Huh? You have two lights. Oh, you're saying my set's nicer in here. Two looks over there.

Is he going to take our camera when we're done, too? I should. I should. Let's take it. Hey, guys, let's take it all.

I want to take it all. All right. No, no, no. More mics. No more.

He's relatively new anymore. I see Jimmy over there. That's concerning me. Yeah, he does not like talking when he's not on camera. He does not like talking to anyone on Fox unless he's getting paid.

Is Jimmy going to sit next to me like I'm doing my show here, and Jimmy's. What am I supposed to do? Like, you don't put me side by side with a comedian. Right. Did you hear that?

Uh did you hear what Eric just said? No. He said to go to break. Oh, he rapped me? Yeah.

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More of Kill Me coming up. He's so busy, he'll make your hat spin. It's Brian Killmeade. All right, yeah, I went a little along with Will Kane. He's a talker.

Yes, that's maybe why his podcast is so successful. Bottom of the hour, we have one more guest. It's going to be Jimmy Phela. He is going to be here. He's also part of the radio setup.

We got Will Kane. We got Jimmy here. Is Guy Benson going to be here too? He's not okay, but the Patriot Awards are taking place. And what do you mean by here?

It's a Tilla Center campus of Long Island University, who we found out, not knowing where they Now Division I. They were Division II when I was here and I played soccer here, but now they've gone Division I across the board and their football team has come a long way.

Now the LIU will play against the Florida Gators.

next year in the fall. I mean, they're not going to win. I can't say that. They're not likely to win. But the fact is they're to play in there.

It brings up the whole campus situation. Who knows? Get some rich people, want to pay some players to come out to beautiful Long Island. Maybe things will change. Nassau County, by the way, went red for the first time.

In a long time. Information you want, truth you demand. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. Hey, welcome back. We come to you from the Tilla Center side of the Patriot Awards will take place in a few hours.

President of the United States is going to be here, President-elect. Then he's going to head over to France. He's been doing a lot of nominating, a lot of organization. Yesterday, they agreed to sign up with the FBI background checks.

So that'll certainly help and move things along. It also helps the senators. Get through the nomination process if they have any questions. Although there's just some latent distrust with the FBI and this administration, which I think is going to be handled, and it is why they have a new director of the FBI ready to go.

So, I don't know if you heard, but the Hunter Biden pardon has gone over terribly for everybody except Hunter Biden. His dad's tarnished, Hunter Biden smiling, getting in have his special Secret Service SUV, going to get coffee out in California, living for free. It also emerged that he owes over $300,000 in back rent to a company, which he stayed at a house in Venice Beach. And when they threatened to throw him out, he changed the locks and had the Secret Service guard the door. That's how classless he is and how exposed his family is.

And that's why even those on the left that for the long time defended Joe Biden and pretend he didn't have a mental problem or a cognitive problem are now feeling left out to dry. And they have every reason to be because he denied he'd ever give a pardon. But now, yesterday, a story emerged that they're looking to give preventive pardons out to people that might be susceptible to what they think a Trump investigation. Like Liz Cheney. like now soon to be Um uh Excuse me, Liz Cheney, as well as uh a few others like um Jack Smith.

There might be people who technically, I didn't think broke the law, but might be Getting pardons. Why would that be? Ari Fleischer thought about that last night, and he doesn't get it. Cut 24. It never even occurred to me that Liz Cheney did anything unlawful or that some of these other people mentioned anything unlawful until I heard now that men need pardons.

Makes me wonder: what did they do that was unlawful? It just planted the idea in my head.

So, no, this is a terrible road to go down. This is not what the pardon process should be about. It should not be about political blanket protection for people. And the nonsense, they actually think that Donald Trump's FBI would do this. How?

I mean, you talk about Trump derangement syndrome. Cubed. This is the worst nonsense I've ever heard. It's a complete fabrication and part of the democratic meltdown about all the things that are going to happen next. I don't see this being one of the things.

Well, I'll tell you what, you know the pardon's coming for his son and the business partners because you've got to keep them quiet because they're going to have to cut deals with law enforcement. And what it does is, Sully, anybody that thought for a second that it wasn't that this Biden family was being unjustly scrutinized just because they Our Democrats and the Republicans have some power in the House. I hope that ship has sailed, even if you don't say it publicly.

So, why would you go out of your way to give a preventive pardon? I think it's a terrible road. Because what if you just say, hey, by the way, I'm just going to have all my friends get pardons.

Now they're going to pay for pardons just in case they commit some financial crime down the road, or they plan on committing a crime and now they're impervious to it. That's really anti-American. Senator Roger Marshall weighed in last night on Larry Kudlow's show, Cut 25.

So, certainly, the first thing I did when I went back to 2014, what did we all see? The Biden corrupt family, the crime family, involvement with barisma. Burisma is the key to this, and tracing that money to the big guy, right? How else did the Biden family afford all these wonderful, beautiful homes, living an extravagant lifestyle? It all goes back to this barisma.

So, more than just pardoning Hunter Biden, he's trying to prevent any type of further investigation that's going to lead back to him. But that's why our job in the House and the Senate, now we can subpoena Hunter Biden, and he can't take. the fifth anymore so we've got work to do. Yeah, they do have work to do to get to a bottom of it. I don't go to hunt to find something wrong, but I would love some.

People to explain to me how he was able to make $20 million, not pay taxes, put it into banks, and not have it show up in Joe's account, how he was able to keep secret documents. And when Robert Hurr found out that he was really guilty and needed to be prosecuted, but he was too dementia-ridden just to be short about it in order to do that, I think it's pretty significant. No one ever brought up, they got on Robert Hurr's case.

Now, in retrospect, did they really believe what they were saying when they went out of their way to say that Robert Hurr was someone who was politically motivated because he was actually. He was appointed by a Republican. Not a chance. The other thing to talk about when it comes to pardons is James Clyburn. Maybe it's James Clyburn's idea.

Remember, he put Joe Biden in office, Cut 22. Jack Smith named It's on my list. List changes name. is on my list. Uh I think that they all should be preemptively pardoned.

Uh because I think they're people who Trump may bring into this government. Who will go after these people? In a serious way. And we cut him off there because he talks too slow.

So I just think it's crazy. And plus, if you're Jack Smith, if you're these other guys, would you accept a pardon like Adam Schiff? Would you accept a pardon, really?

Well, that means I'm guilty. If you accept a pardon, it means you're accepting guilt.

So you should. I mean, let's find out. Adam Schiff leaking like crazy. I don't know if that's a violation of the law, the spirit of the law, certainly. Saul Weisenberg was asked about this.

And would these other characters, fearful of Donald Trump, do to accept just that? Cut 23.

Well, for one thing, don't forget. To get a pardon, you have to formally accept the pardon. I really don't see Jack Smith saying, yes, thanks, give me a pardon. I don't think he thinks he deserves one. Or needs one, let's put it that way.

Because you, and traditionally, you know, if you accept a pardon, you accept some kind of responsibility. It's not a requirement, but it's traditional. Here's the thing: here's the basic rule: you can do a preemptive pardon. It's what Ford gave to Nixon, it's what Job just gave to Hunter. It says, even though you haven't been charged, I'm pardoning you for past conduct for which you may be charged.

What he cannot do, of course, is say, I pardon you for any crime you may commit in the future. That he can't do. I wouldn't think.

So, when we come back in a moment, I'll talk to Jimmy Phaler.

So, we are looking at a few different stories that we're going to be working on. But just the last thing on the pardon. I thought I played this a little with Will, but if you're just tuning in now, we come to you from the Tiller Center side of the Patriot Awards. I thought it was really cool that you got Charlemagne the God, who was supposed to interview next week, who went on to the view. And you know, he leans left, he'll never be a center guy.

I think he's more center than he even thinks he is. He's a very practical person. He wants people to help people that don't have money because he was like that. And now he's got a lot of influence, and all he does is hire people and give them the chance to be successful. Here he is with Whoopee Goldberg talking about these pardons and how farcical it is.

That Joe Biden actually decided during Thanksgiving to pardon his son. He knew he was going to do that. Two days after this, he was going to be sentenced for his crimes, and he was about to be tried for his problem with forgetting to pay millions of dollars of taxes. Cut 21. But he didn't have to volunteer that lie to begin with.

I'm going to stop you for a second. Uh-oh. Only because you don't know that it was a lie. We don't know why he changed his mind. Do you really think he just changed his mind over Thanksgiving weekend all the time?

No, I'm going to tell you. At some point, you get to the place where you just go, so I'm just going to follow the straight and narrow always, because that's what's expected of Democrats. But that's their fault. They're the ones that go out there and they stand on this moral high ground. Democrats are not a monolith.

Why can't you say when Democrats are wrong? Yep, and that's the way it ended.

So we're going to take a timeout, come back with Jimmy Phaler here. Just a quick note on Baron Trump. There's this big story about how does a guy 6'9, named Trump, dad's president, about to be president again, fit in on NYU, which is really, if you've not been to New York City, it's not really a campus. It's a series of blocks. And there's no ring around it.

There's no fence around it. And they say, well, one of the things he does when it's hard to get close to guys because they're, you know, or or girls because there's Secret Service everywhere, he gets their name. Uh and he gets there, what do they call it? He asked for their pin name. For to play video games.

But I think it's kind of sad. He's gotta play the video games in a separate location.

So he'll go home to his own tower. I know it's weird, but he seems to be adjusted to it, and get their Discord usernames and game tags, and they'll go and play in separate locations. Kind of sad, but it's hard for him to blend in at 6'9 anyway. His favorite game, FIFA, which is now FC25, because he was a very good soccer player himself. All right, when we come back, we'll be able to talk to Jimmy and wrap up this hour of Fox and Friends and preview the Patriot Awards, which might be the most patriotic award show ever created.

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We bump in with Bezos. Hey, we're back. Jimmy Phale is here. Jimmy's. Damn, ready is.

No, I didn't know you had the attitude. You've got to pace yourself because you're going to peak tonight. Yeah, I do. You're going to be in the Patriot Awards. Are you going to be warming up the crowd?

What are you doing? At the halfway point. I walk out to do five minutes of stand-up in front of all of my employers and the President of the United States. No, you know, no stress at all. No drops.

Do you say I don't go on until 47 is in the room? Yeah, yeah, that's the way it works. It's in my contract. Right. Sorry, I know you're running behind.

If he's running behind, I'm running behind. It's just the way it's going to be. Right. Have you thought about any material, or are you just going to rook the crowd? You want to know what?

I know everything I'm going to do, but what you've got to have at an award show specifically. You know, people are gonna get up there and attempt comedy. And some of the references they make might eliminate some of the jokes I want to tell.

So you wind up adjusting on the fly. Like you show up with like assume you're going to do five minutes, right? You show up with ten, and depending what other people talk about, you would you trim that five down. You know, based on what's on the table, what's off the table.

So it's kind of like the NFL draft. It's like we want to take this guy first. You know what I mean? Right. But you have it.

We want to take the Biden joke first, but we can't 'cause somebody else selected it, you see? Have you ever thought about targeting the other talent? Yes, there'll be a minimal amount of that tonight. A minimal amount. Because this is a pretty.

It's an upbeat motivational thing. Yeah, it's very pretty. It wants to be done richly. And you know what it is, too? Like, we can take it, and we go at each other all day.

There are some fragile people walking around here, like real showbiz people. Talking about Martha McCall? Yeah, no. She's actually the best one. You can do anything to Martha.

Martha came to one of my shows and laughed too hard. I'm like, this is like. She has a distinctive laugh. Yeah, she does a great laugh. She co-signs your joke, it's actually helpful.

So I should grease Martha in the parking lot. Is it judge? Are you afraid to go after the judge? I'm just trying to get to the parking lot. I'll tell you what I'm afraid to do with the judge if you want to have this conversation.

I drove the judge in my cab last week. It was on my Saturday night show. I'll never do it again. There's not a dollar amount. She trashed my driving, demanded to drive the vehicle.

The whole ride was just us screaming at each other. It was very funny. And it was, you know, it was a fun experience, but you don't need to do it twice. Right. And did you have a destination or was it just drive like this?

Yeah, we were taking her to maybe a dinner party that she was going to. To that I wasn't invited to. It was just, you know, drop her off, no eye contact. Don't ask for a selfie.

So I want you to hear Jeff Bezos. Like, you know, you hear about Jamie Dimon called the president, they've been speaking, right? Obviously, Elon Musk, who walked off his business council in 2017 after Charlottesville. There couldn't be tighter, obviously.

Now he's talking about a czar at Bitcoin, a czar for AI, the Silicon Valley, who he felt turned on him and lost in the 2020 election. Clearly, there's been more than amends made. And then Jeff Bezos, in an interview, said this. If we're talking about Trump, I think it's very interesting. I'm actually very optimistic this time around that we're going to see, I'm very hopeful about this.

He seems to have a lot of energy around reducing regulation. And my point of view, if I can help him do that, I'm going to help him. Because we do have too much regulation in this country. This country is so set up. to grow.

So and he went on to say other other things. He thinks he's much calmer. Yeah, there's definitely something more presidential happening. Because this transition, it's just less contentious. You know, the media doesn't have like a manufactured Russia hysteria to peddle, which is allowing Trump to kind of lay a little bit lower than he did last time.

This time, last time, James Comey was saying, Can you have a second? Yeah. We have naked pictures of you. Yeah. Right.

But they were already engaged in their soft coup attempt. Right. This time around, they're working long con. I don't know what the answer is. I think they're scared of him now.

Yeah, they are. They're like they tried to kill, and they can't. They've tried everything. I mean, literally everything imaginable. He's been shot, it's been impeached, he's been indicted, every name you can think of.

This may come up in my act later, so I don't want to burn the reference. But the point is, the wind is at his back for the first time in his career. This is what makes the moment so interesting. We like to talk about sports. He was blitzed every down of his first administration.

This time around, he has some pass protection. He's got a slim majority in the House, you know, a good enough majority in the Senate, and he's got a popular vote behind him, which makes everything he's doing a lot less conf you know, a lot less controversial. And it's really hard for them to get outraged around it because they know the room isn't with them. You know, the last time this was still of an unknown, they had that crazy hysteria thing going on. He's been around too long now for people to react to that.

Keeping on the comedy thing, I tape the Tonight Show every night to see if I can grab something for this show. Yeah. And he does not. Jimmy Fallon. There's almost no Trump.

One joke, maybe. And then it's not even that disparaging. Jimmy Kimmel, I read his monologue. It's like it's 2017. Oh, straight up.

Yeah, he has not pivoted. Will Kane cutting through the shot, looking good doing it, by the way? He usually doesn't talk to anyone before his shit. Oh, no, he's a diva. I was told no eye contact with Mr.

Kane. Not Will Kane. I said with Mr. Kane, if you can refrain from the eye contact. See, the thing is, Fallon is like an old school variety host who wants to do comedy.

He didn't ask for any of this. Do you remember when Fallon had Trump on and he got in trouble for mussing Trump's hair? He was doing what he was supposed to do. The whole point of a late-night show is you bring in, when you bring in a political figure, is to show us the person behind the politics. It's not to sit down and treat them like you're debating them, you know, like they're on Meet the Press or something.

So Fallon did it right. Do you know him? Yeah, he's a good dude. When I got my TV show, he sent me a really nice basket of his ice cream.

So why wouldn't he stand up and say he's president-elect, he's a nominee? Honestly, I think why not still don't take him on? I think at the time, if we're talking about 2016, he was just on the wrong side of it in the sense of 99.9% of Hollywood was stampeding over anyone who could even dig. Trump's existence. This time around, he'd have a lane to do it in, but he'd still be doing it on a network that, let's be honest, not exactly a home game for the Trumpster.

Right. Yeah, I guess are you surprised at his first interview? I didn't know the president had not done any. Yeah. This is with Kristen Welker.

I know, right? But that's the thing. He's willing to go on the road. He's willing to fight anybody. And he deserves a lot of credit for that.

But I wonder what approach she's going to take. Because she's going to look terrible and disingenuous if she's trying to portray him in that other light. It's two things on the Sunday shows when you're out having a good time. I do watch them all at night. And her first show was with Trump.

And she got blitz for that. Yeah. Because they said, why are you opening up with him? You're normalizing him. You idiot.

He's probably going to be the Republican nominee anytime.

So now she's going back. And I noticed her show last week. She actually asked questions. And let them answer and had people on. And they said at the end of it, thanks for joining me.

She goes, it was fun being on. It was a weird tone. I'm telling you, the winds of change have blown, and some people have gotten the memo that nobody's up for the performative hysteria anymore because that's what it was. Even in 2016, when you understand, like, we always joke about how Saturday Night Live cried after he won. He hosted that show multiple times.

He was there. He worked on the network for 15 years. What's her name sing Hallelujah? Yeah, of course. Kate McKinnon sang hallelujah.

I mean, that was outrageous. They tried to have Kamala sing it this time, but she was too hammered. They're like, we can't put her in front of a microphone like this. Do you think she was drugged? Yes, 100%.

It's either we do this game called Weed or Pills, Wine or Pills, where we watch, we show you a Kamala clip and like, is this wine? Or is maybe she's on somebody's pills? I think that was a both. That was a bad-looking clip, man. Is there anything you want to preview on your show, or is it just you or enough?

I'm obviously the the meal ticket here, uh but I've been told that our producers are flexing hard and in the 2 p.m. hour they're trotting out Brian Kilmead.

So every once in a while they like to show off. They're probably angling for a raise. This booking. You're going to pay my ticket. That's it.

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