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Hi, everyone. Welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Killmead Show. Hope you had a fantastic weekend. We're back in action now. A lot going on today.

Believe it or not, we do have a President of the United States. He's at the G20. He is. Going to a global alliance on hunger. I assume he's against it.

And then he's going to go to lunch and then he's going to call it a day. Also, play, I guess we're giving like what, two billion dollars to the Amazon. And then we find out that he lands in Brazil. No red carpet. Just a couple of guys show up.

Red carpet for China. Why? Because he decided to side with Lula, whose idol is Castro.

So he was wondering why the socialist, who is now leading the BRICS conference, has turned against him. When Bolsonaro sits there like Trump, he sits there in exile, even though he was probably won that election and should be running again. But this is how he goes out. Everything that Joe Biden did with his foreign policy was wrong. And that's why I am so glad the end is near.

Before we get to our next guest, Congressman Ryan Zinke, one of our old-time favorites, let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. Look, I think Democrats are in the wilderness, as you just said before. There is no clear leader of the party. There are a lot of governors and other people who might emerge, maybe people we don't know about yet.

But there is no clear leader of the party right now. Jen Saki, who, by the way, made a really good transition. He's a very good host.

So, honestly, that's what we are getting from some Dems as they begin to wrap their heads around the historic thumping at the hands of the Trump. We hear from them in their own words. Number two. There's a reason why no one in the conference came and defended him because we had all seen the videos he was showing of the girls that he had slept with. He'd brag about how he would crush ED medicine and chase it with an energy drink so he could go all night.

That is Senator Mark Wayne Mullen talking about Matt Gates. Nominations flooding the news zone, and critics, skeptics, and analysts weigh in on the latest non-traditional selections from RFK to Gates to Tulsi. Them scrambled to keep up. Number one. If you really want to be concerned about that, they have the absolute ability to run the table at least for the next two years.

And that's what I think we should all be concerned on, not small tweets or random kinds of appointments. Trump reflects, reacts, and baskets in the glory of the remarkable historic victory as he hosts a major gala at Mar-a-Lago while putting yet another legend to come out of the shadows and support his case. And that was Sylvester Lone.

So welcome back. Great to be with you. Exciting times. Right.

So, this is a great time to be in the majority, stay in the majority. Listen, Congressman Zinke, I didn't think that when I watched Kevin McCarthy get ousted. With such a slim majority, I thought you just basically signed the minority certificate. That there's no way. But you guys, it's a slim margin.

We don't know exactly the number yet, but it looks like you held the majority. How much does that mean?

Well, it means everything if you want to get anything done, right? The magic number is 218. I think we're going to probably going to be in the 221 area, so we'll have a slight majority. But in order to affect policy, the House is a 51 percent.

So you need to make sure that every Republican toes together, or you have bills that are bipartisan. There are some bills that are bipartisan. The farm bill historically has been bipartisan. There's other opportunities. A lot of our land bills and public access are largely bipartisan.

But the hot bills of what the President wants, no doubt we won't get any support from the Democrats when we talk about securing the border. That's been pretty clear. Tax cuts to make sure that America can stay competitive. And look at President Trump's agenda. It's pretty clear.

During his first four years as Secretary, I used to say, look, a promise made is a promise kept. If you want to know what President Trump's doing, Just follow what he said in the campaign and And he's going to do exactly what he said in the campaign. And I think his picks for the cabinet member kind of reflects that. I want to get into that. I also want to talk about what's happening in Ukraine.

You got this Navy SEAL background and what's happening with Hezbollah. They just took out another commander. But I want to talk big picture. If you were on the Trump team, you were targeted. You were one of them.

Trump was not accepted in Washington by his own people. We found out that Madison and Kelly, who were great Americans but were working against him, thought he was totally unworthy for the position. H. R. McMaster wrote about in his book because they didn't like him either.

And McMaster was critical of Trump at times, but for the most part, I happen to know firsthand that he's happy he won.

So Do you think that's over? That if you're on the Trump team, that if you ever walked against traffic as an eighteen-year-old, that that is going to come up because you were targeted simply because you were Interior Secretary.

Well, I think it's clear.

Well, you know, we came in, we knew there was a deep state, and then tongue-in-cheek, you know, I brought a set of hip waiters. I should have brought a boat. It is much deeper and damaging than we think. And look, when you ask when you ask us, when I say us, the American people, is there a government, department, agency, division that you have full trust and confidence in? It's crickets.

That's because we have lost faith with our government institutions. That's what Trump has promised to bring back, transparency and accountability. And look, they are going to you know, I always say in Washington, D.C., you know, normally, you know, as a Navy SEAL, I never divided the world between Republicans and Democrats, but in Washington, D.C., 94% of that town voted for Joe Biden. And the other six percent don't work in government.

So when you go in there as a secretary, you face a very monolithic group, and about a third are absolutely in the resistance mode that find every opportunity to delay, prevent, lie, cheat, steal, and we've seen it. And Trump, even when he wasn't in office, look at the viciousness. that Department of Justice went after him. I mean, or New York. Or, you know, and when I was a a secretary, you know, they were shooting at Trump, but most of the rounds were landing on me because Trump was out of range.

What I went through every day, you know, anyone who's a good person. Jared Krishner almost went to jail. Oh, well, and I think Mike Flynn probably had to pay $20 million what his bill was for attorneys. They haven't changed, and what President Trump has promised to do was bring back accountability, bring back transparency, and restore faith in government. That's a big task.

I can tell you, his cabinet members are pipe hitters.

So, you know, the UFC, we're watching the UFC fight. I expect him to get that warm welcome right in New York City, but not like that, according to everybody. Electric. Electric. Yeah.

And Joe Rogan was saying it's never been this loud. He's never heard it so loud. He does every major UFC event. Then I'm watching this dance, and everyone's like, Brian, what's the big deal? I think it's a huge deal.

When a West Virginia running back gets a touchdown and starts doing the dance, and then I'm watching this happen in the San Francisco 49ers, and then I'm watching black and white players doing the Trump tribute. This is a big deal. Because remember, they said that he was Hitler, he was a fascist, he was racist, and was going to divide America.

Someone forgot to give the memo to Americans who are finally making their own decisions. Don't you agree?

Well, everyone loves a champion. You know, Teddy Roosevelt said the same thing, the respect for the man in the arena. You're talking about a president who made an enormous comeback. People were were hitting him hard. I mean, in in the courts, every day you had Department of Justice visiting his house.

And we can go through. And who won? Here comes the champion. And I think that that moment, you're right, it seemed like a Muhammad Ali fight. I mean, it was.

Probably on steroids, and there's the champion.

Now it's going to be our commander-in-chief. And look, he's going to do exactly what he said he's going to do. And to your point, he has the Senate. The Senate's a tricky business because they don't have 60. They'll have the House, but the House actually has to behave themselves and act together with a unified purpose.

And then on his Cabinet members, He looked at you know, I was secretary for two years, I had seventeen Senate confirmed appointments, seventeen. After two years, I only had seven out of seventeen. Because this is what they do, they slow you down. They delay the FBI investigations, the Office of Governor Ethics. In one case, they only meet three days a week instead of five days a week.

But that's up to Thune now. Can't Thune just say seven days a week, we're working until we get this stuff confirmed, unless I get some efficiency? Why does the minority have such a vote?

Well, and these recess appointments, that is a lot more difficult than just being in recess. You don't get paid, number one.

Well, both House and the Senate have to be in recess. And then the recess is only good for the term of Congress, which is two years. But you can do it with 51 percent of the votes in the Senate. But as I understand it, with the parliamentarian, amendments are made in order. That means that every senator will get an opportunity to put amendments on those recess, and you can imagine what those amendments are going to be on the Democrat side.

And I think some of them probably would pass.

So I think the recess appointments, he can probably get some, but not all. But no, but I wasn't talking recess. I was just saying that he could just schedule these nominations and then the votes and just stay. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Get there on Monday instead of Sunday.

Well, he controls the on and off switch with that little light on top of the Capitol. Matter of fact, when that light on top of the Capitol is lit, I call it the most underused light bulb in Washington, D.C. Because you don't work enough. That tells you when the Senate is in session.

So you're right. He can force these guys in there to do their job. To me, the recess is typical to leverage Trump. The tariffs, leverage Trump. He's like, how do I get you to act?

Well, I'm going to tell you I'm going to do recess appointments. I'm outraged.

Well, do you not want to do recess appointments? Maybe you're going to get some people nominated. And then all of a sudden, that to me is what he's doing. He is a master at this. But I think you're right.

I mean, he looks at the last time, look, you didn't give me my appointments.

So this time I'm going to look at ways to go around you if you don't do that. Your job. And the recess is certainly on the table, as Thune said. And Thune can hold them in session until they do their job.

So I think just having Trump put a little muscle on the Senate is probably a good thing. I know you don't vote on this. That's the Senate side. But when it comes to Matt Gates, who's never tried a case and has pretty much rocked your chamber for three and a half weeks as they tried to pick a speaker and made it impossible, the voice to remove, I personally think he really hurt and embarrassed the country. Forget about Republicans.

But here's what some Republicans have said on the Senate side that we'll have to eventually vote for him. He can only lose, what, three or four votes, depending on what happens in Pennsylvania. Cut one. There are many serious allegations pending against him. He's got a really steep hill to climb to get lots of votes, including myself.

Senator Cornyn, Senator Rounds, on should his ethics investigation be released. Got two. I think there should not be any limitation on the Senate Judiciary Committee's investigation, including whatever the House Ethics Committee's generated. And we should have access to it one way or another. Based on the way that we do all of these nominations.

Your thoughts about the ethics investigation would stop the day you resigned and about him as an attorney general.

Well, this is where the Senate advise and consent. And consent is and they have some serious concerns. I would imagine the Senate is going to dig deep and say, look, we're going to look at the investigations as they are to make sure the allegations are just allegations and not fact.

So I I think that's probably where the where the Senate's gonna go. Certainly Matt Gates is the most controversial of you know I I did He's very, very sharp. And if President Trump says, I want to be a disruptor, especially in the Department of Justice, I mean, Matt Gates fits that mold. I assume, like all the cabinet members, they're going to also stack him with a team of competent people that have been around for a while. But I think the challenge in the Senate, whether it's attempted recess or not, is pretty clear.

All right, we'll see. I mean, Mark Wayne Mullen says I'll be open-minded, but he also has said personally he basically can't stand the guy.

So he's going to be open to that. When we come back, what did Joe Biden just do to give Ukraine additional chances to do maximum damage to Russia that he should have done over a year ago? We'll discuss that with the former Navy SEAL, former Interior Secretary, and now back-to-being Congressman Ryan Zinke of Montana in just a moment. Don't move. Diving deep into today's top stories, it's Brian Kilmead.

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Hey, welcome back.

So, we know now through a report today over the weekend that Joe and Washington Post and New York Times, Congressman Zinke, that we are now allowing all restrictions lifted on the use of ATACMs against Russia, and that means the UK and the rest of our NATO allies will follow suit. This is in response to them bringing in 12,000 North Korean troops, and there's a Bloomberg report saying they're ready to give up to 100,000. thousand into that region. What are your thoughts as a Navy SEAL, a guy who fights wars?

Well, look, you know, I've been to war a lot of times, and I I've never been on a mission without clear objectives and a plan.

Well that's the same thing. We're we're two hundred billion dollars in. And now we're sending longer range, more sophisticated systems in there.

Now blank checks.

Well, they were in. We just were told maybe they couldn't use it.

Well, but now they've got a blank check to use them as but what's the plan? What's the objective? Yeah, well, I I assume on the Russian side it's no NATO and access to the Crimean Peninsula. I assume on the Zielensky, Zelensky has said his victory plan is Having the Crimean Peninsula and continuing advancing operations, offensive operations in that section of Russia. But without a plan.

So I think this is an escalation, obviously.

Now you have Korean troops in there. You have, you know, which is to a degree has been a surrogate of China. No one talks about Venezuela. Look, the world's falling apart. And Donald Day Trump is, you know, his time is coming as a commander-in-chief.

But look, he's going to be handed a world that is unstable. Absolutely. He's going to be handling grain. But here's the thing: with six pens.

So I asked Michael Walsh today. If he has been consulted on this, have they, President-elect and his team, been consulted on it? And they said no.

So you can't even say they're working in coordination, sadly. Um, so he said that, you know, the prep but they did speak for an hour or two hours, it mostly was about Ukraine. On the other side, as we look at the Middle East. Basically, Israel has been told, Daniel has been told, get it done before I get there, and they took out another Hezbollah leader. And when you see those tunnels being blown up and these leaders being killed, do you think that Israel's addressing a problem that was only going to get worse and they do have to finish the job now?

And Iran has never been more vulnerable? Do you think we have a chance for long term? a long a tranquil Middle East long term if Israel finishes the job?

Well on two parts on Israel. One is I don't think they can they're going to have to occupy Gaza and eradicate the spider holes and establish order. And Lebanon, you know, when you have the missile threat as they are, and those missiles can be armed with significantly, you know. Higher firepower is that they'll have to occupy that until there's a force in there that can clean it up. Those are the two principal threats.

And then, of course, you have over-the-top with Iran that is vulnerable. But what we face is this: we face Russia, obviously, in Ukraine. We face China, who's supplying parts, materials, and pressing on Taiwan and, of course, the Pacific. You have Venezuela, we don't talk about. Uh Venezuela is in our backyard, Monro Mano Monroe Doctrine, and we're feeling the effects of Venezuela on our streets.

Because they've dumped out their prisons, their insane. We made a stupid deal with them and said that if you have fair elections, we'll let you start buying your oil again.

Well, and we're back on track of doing that.

So we're taking heavies rather from Canada, as we should, our ally. We're taking the heavies from Venezuela again. What do you mean by heavies, crime? Oh, heavy crude. A lot of Houston relies on crude and heavy crudes.

So we're taking that, once again, policy on international.

Well, that's going to change. Don't you think? It is absolutely going to change. One of the best picks, I think, is Doug Bergham and Chris Wright. Both those guys I know well.

And look, you know, when I came in, we were 8.3 million barrels a day and declining. Two shorts. We'll talk to you again right on the outside. Back in a moment. More Congressman Zinke.

Brian Kilmy, Chair. The more you listen, the more you'll know. It's Brian Kilmeade. Look, I think Democrats are in the wilderness. As you just said before, there is no clear leader of the party.

Joe Biden is going to be out of office shortly. Kamal Harris just lost the election. There are a lot of governors and other people who might emerge, maybe people we don't know about yet. But there is no clear leader of the party right now. Ms.

Jensaki being honest. It's not that unusual. Mitt Romney, when he lost, no one said, okay, I know who's next. After John McCain lost, they knew he was done. You know, he went back to the Senate, so there was no clear leader, but there's absolutely nobody close.

The only person that people like to see is Barack Obama, but I'll tell you what, he is damaged goods now, and so is his wife. Who came out angry and disconnected to America? That whole I don't like America attitude doesn't fly anymore, and I'm very happy to say that. Miranda Devine joins us now at the New York Post. Her.

Hurrah. Story today is a major one. Just basically, how Nancy Pelosi has finished, and no one deserves more of the blame than her. And a lot of people feel as though they're disconnected from Makeem Jeffries, who should be the voice and face of the party, but not while Nancy Pelosi is around. Miranda Devine, welcome back.

Hey, thanks, Brian. Yeah, exactly. It's pretty disrespectful, I think, to Hakeem Jeffries that she wants to keep hanging around. She's just filed the papers to run it again. And I mean, she'll be 88 by the time Donald Trump's finished his second term.

And she just is shameless. She runs around pretending that she's some sort of master strategist. And basically, that's a myth because if you look at what the Democrats are like now, they're in ruins. They've lost the White House, the House, the Senate and the popular vote. They were rejected from one coast to the other.

Even in San Francisco, Pelosi's hometown had a seven-point swing to Donald Trump. And she's the only Speaker in history to have lost the control of the House twice.

So, why would she hang around? She's a failure, and yet she's running around doing all these interviews with the New York Times and so on, blaming Joe Biden, the guy that she pushed out. To bring in Kamala Harris, who was an abject failure from the beginning.

So I think enough. She needs to leave. She's been a very divisive force in the country. Um she's been terrible for her own party. I don't know why they put up with it.

They're now, just now, starting to speak out against her and being quite vicious. I mean, the Congressional Black Caucus came out and said to Axios, essentially, he's being disrespectful to Keem Jeffries, who really had no voice. And he was meeting with the president, trying to talk to him, see where he was at about possibly dropping out. The president would meet with him and make statements like only God Almighty would force me out. And it was Nancy Pelosi's call, and they still haven't spoken yet.

There's just no debate about it. She's the one who did it. And she intimated, too, she said, the men didn't do anything, meaning Clinton and Obama.

So I had to step in. John Fetterman says. She's embraced this godmother. She's the enforcer, and now she's blaming Biden.

Well, you can't have it both ways. You gotta have, you got what you wanted, and now you're still blaming Biden. He's 100% right. He is one hundred percent right. And do you know the godmother image, there it's been so embraced within the party that during the DNC convention that anointed Kamala Harris, You saw Dems walking around with these buttons with Pelosi's face on them and the godfather movie image and Pelosi called the godmother.

And there's no better way to show that your party is being run like the mafia by this woman who's been in power for 20 years. She's had an iron grip on the party. And look, I guess you've got to take your hat off to her leadership skills because she certainly has everyone in that party scared, but she's crushed them. And now that there is a little glimmer of speaking up, I can't believe that they would allow this woman with such flawed judgment. Namely, I think her hatred of Donald Trump has brought her undone.

I mean, she lost me, Miranda. She lost me ripping up that State of the Union. I'm never going to forget how unacceptable that is, how bad it looked around the world, and Trump didn't see it. But to see her do that and to think that that's okay, and you think Trump is the disruptor trying to mess with the norms? Are you going to tell me that would have been done by Tip O'Neill?

Or John Boehner? Yeah, 100%. Disgusting. It's so classless, such a vicious thing to do. And, you know, Trump shaking her hand and being all.

Conciliatory and always Trump tries to do deals, but she just refused to. She was a real obstruction and a sneaky behind the we behind the scenes, you know, beyond the call of duty. You just don't, that's not the role of the Speaker of the House, is to cripple the presidency and damage the country. And that's exactly what she did. She did whatever she could.

The January 6th committee was a star chamber. You know, she's the one that made sure that Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro went to jail for contempt of Nancy Pelosi. She's ruthless. I'll give her that. A Republican I was talking to yesterday said she was like Genghis Khan.

But I just don't know what good those kind of dictatorial skills have been for the past. Miranda, you don't, you know, it's not been good. And I'll tell you, that January 6th committee, which she made a big show, by not having any legitimate Republican opposition to make it a true choice. To make it a true, I guess, investigation. But Adam Kinzinger and Liz Cheney, who were totally against the President by then, and the January 6th outcome by not letting Jim Jordan and others get on that, she did something unprecedented, and then she put it in prime time.

She put her whole reputation. Trump broke her mind. Also, you bring out the Capitol Police on camera her daughter's documentary. She said she feels responsible because she could have called more National Guard in.

Well, yeah. I mean, the thing is, I don't even trust that documentary sort of semi concession because she orchestrates everything. There's no mistake, and it's her daughter. And by the way, she wants to ship her daughter into her seat.

so that she has a dynasty that she can keep controlling from the grave. Um she's Really, one of a kind. You don't see many people like her even in politics here. I mean, she's Yeah. I I can't even describe the sort of evil and divisiveness that she's brought into Congress, that she's brought to the country.

And, you know, she will shive anyone in the back, including her supposed long-term friend Joe Biden, who, you know, she helped in stall, obviously. And you know, the January sixth narrative that she's pretty much single handedly crafted and pretending after the summer of love in which Democrats everywhere were all about defund the police and spread. Sponsoring these attack police riots. She then pretends to be the big champion of police. Because she eulogizes these Capitol police officers.

And she. You know, she also co-opted General Millie. She has a very powerful personality and she manages to sort of bully and conjole people to do what she wants. They're weak. I mean, Millie's Millie just hates Trump, so that made it easier.

It did, but she also shamed him after. Remember he walked out into Lafayette Park when Trump was holding the Bible after the St. John's Church was torched by the Antifa rioters, BLM rioters. And Millie walked out there with him. Maybe it was bad judgment of his, but I don't think it was that much of a disaster.

But he got completely ripped and Pelosi after that pretty much owned him. And he got to the point where she'd managed to poison him so much against Trump that he was ringing the Chinese and telling them, don't worry, you know, if the President does something, I won't follow through and he orders. I hear you.

So there's a couple of things going on right now. I think there's a lot of people who are just coming to Trump's side because they realize this election win was so comprehensive. Minorities, progress in 49 of 50 states. They picked up seven points in her district alone. And that no one doubts with the popular vote, and you know all the stats, to the point where we're watching NFL players dancing in the end zone doing the Trump dance, let alone the UFC fighters of all races, by the way, the ones that were taking a knee.

I'm not saying specifically the ones, but there was a sense in the NFL that everyone was taking a knee, and that's just the way it's going to be when Trump's in office, and now they're celebrating him. And I'm just wondering, I'm just wondering in the big picture, what do you think about the morning show hosts on Joe and Mika going to meet with Trump at Mar-a-Lago, the most vicious detractors, unfair critics of him, and they met over the weekend? Yes, I mean the prime propaganda proponents of poison against Donald Trump. And here they are, they're in fear for their own jobs because MSNBC ratings have just gone through the toilet. And so after calling him a fascist and a Nazi and propagating every sort of fake hoax about him for years and years, here they are, they turn around and they want to suck up to him.

And I hope he doesn't accept their olive branch. I mean, he has met with them, but I'm sure it's just out of curiosity and interest to see how much they will grovel. And I hope he's laughing about it right now. Yeah, it would be great to see him treated fairly. Don't kiss his, just hey, I like this nominee.

I don't like this.

Okay, fine. But they have not given him an ounce of discretion and grace in either victory. And they also pushed the Russia fake investigation, which really destroyed and almost got his son-in-law arrested and almost got his son arrested, my goodness, with Don Jr.

So I give him credit for meeting with them. But if they feel as though they want to rehab their career, how they think they have any credibility is beyond me. The other thing I thought was interesting is RFK. A lot of people are being critical. I was shocked to see one person open to it.

And listen to Deborah Burks, the former White House coronavirus coordinator. And this is what she said about from vaccines to what we eat, CUT 21.

Well, we're not talking about eliminating good food. We're talking about using all of their ingredients in a way that is more healthy for Americans. And I think that's what people are calling for now. Europe did it years ago, and I think we're capable of doing that. We have really smart, high levels of technology.

We can make food tasty without a lot of these additives because we can see that other groups are doing it in a small way.

So we're not talking about eliminating the need for wheats and grains. We're talking about putting those together in a healthy way. CBS was looking for her to just tee off and talk about how he's a voodoo doctor pretending to know food. He goes, no, that's a good point. She also said this, Cut 20.

And I think what has confused people is we weren't clear about what COVID vaccines do and don't. And so now people are questioning: well, what do my childhood vaccines do and don't? And they don't understand that some of the vaccines that their children are getting protect them from both disease and create herd immunity, and some of them that they get are just for their child, like H flu and Numavax to prevent their child from getting very serious illness. And we're just not explaining all of this correctly.

So she's open to his questioning. He's like, what is wrong with questioning this stuff? I was stunned, and I was happily stunned to see her. Talk like a human being. Yes, and look, at least she's being honest about this up to a point.

I mean, she says we weren't clear about the COVID vaccine. It wasn't that they weren't clear. They lied about it. You know, Joe Biden lied about it from the podium. Fauci lied about it.

They knew that it didn't prevent people from getting sick, but they insisted that it did. They knew that it wasn't if you didn't get the vaccine, you weren't killing other people. But they continued with that because they were so desperate to get everybody vaxed. And people were resistant. And so, and you know, with good reason.

And I think RFK Jr. wrote a terrific book during the pandemic about all of this and about the sort of failure of the health experts to keep our trust. And I guess Burks is a public health professional. And so she sees the damage that these lies have done to the trust of the public. And she's absolutely right.

I mean, childhood vaccines for the most part are crucial to keeping children healthy and have saved a lot of lives over the years. I mean, I think there are way too many. But now parents are worried about all of them. And this is dangerous.

So I think that RFK Jr. definitely has a point. And as Burke said, we need to, instead of just blithely saying, oh no, these vaccines don't cause autism, for instance, we need to show parents what does cause autism. Because they're worried. Because they're worried.

Because they see the numbers going up. And this is the lesson. When we bring up when politicians like Donald Trump and people like Trump bring up legitimate questions, they say conspiracy theory, they marginalize you, you're being irresponsible. No, they're saying exactly what we're thinking. about prices and all these things what we're spending things on, the whether vaccines, what we eat.

And they're making good and instead of entertaining RFK and what he's saying and engaging him, they want to say he's a kook. And they used to be pra a year and a half ago they were praising him for his environmental work.

Well, look, he had a huge following in the Democratic Party, even though they stifled his campaign and wouldn't let him get on debate stages and did whatever it took to marginalize him to the point that he then joined Trump.

So there are a lot of people, a lot of Americans, who agree with at least some of what he says, and he's the only one saying it. And I think Maha, Make Americans Healthy Again, was a really inspired slogan. And I think it helped Donald Trump win this landslide from coast to coast. Absolutely. I think it's comprehensive.

So, unfortunately, we have to end. We can go another hour. But check out Miranda Devine's Look at Nancy Pelosi, and really, she's the best weapon for Republicans, and Democrats are beginning to realize it. Thanks, Miranda. Thanks a lot, Brian.

And by the way, her book is called The Big Guy, and it's out now. Or should I be gone? Listen, we come back, we'll be able to squeeze in some calls to listen to the Brian Kill Me Show.

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But you can't be surprised that the white African guy's first idea is slavery. Yep, that's Michael Che. One of the few relatively funny moments, but predictable. Everything's comedy race with them. But I thought the cold open was terrible.

And I thought the The weekend update was Unusually bad. I really had trouble with that. But especially when you, I don't know, you just have high expectations because you remember what that was. The anti-Trump stuff, I'm telling you, if you just lost, Joe and Mika just gave up all their integrity, and now you know you don't believe a word they're saying because they hate Trump, he's the worst ever, he wins, and they're trying to make amends. Number two, who's going to be left?

Is late night comedy? Are they going to apologize to Jimmy Fallon, who had to apologize because he air quotes normalized Trump? Is Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert the last ones to be crying that he won? And all of a sudden, are they going to lose even less viewers? Are there going to be less anti-Trumpers in the world for them to draw from?

Could they get below a one? Carson used to get a six. They could be they're getting a a one eight, one point eight and a two. Getting crushed by Greg Guttfeld, who's on a 10 a little bit earlier. But there's a reason why Conan O'Brien's hosting the Emmys.

Because the late night guys have no credibility. And Conan just pulled out of that. And he never talks politics. And his podcast is going great. Ryan Kilman show.

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Glad you're here. We know the President of the United States is in Brazil, the G20, where it's put in the back row of a picture. I guess Trump has been putting in a few back rows. I haven't seen pictures like that, but of course China's front and center because Brazil is kissing their butt. Because they are now great allies with him.

Because we seem to, Joe Biden loves Lula, this corrupt guy that they had to get out of prison to run against Bolsonaro. And now we have Joe Biden pledging $2 billion for the Amazon. Like we have to fix everybody else's backyard, like ours is perfect.

So fantastic.

So he continues to talk about his climate agenda, which is why he is a former president and not the future president. This hour we're going to be joined by Michael Goodwin and Dr. Martin McCary. Dr. McCary wrote a book very similar.

To Casey and Callie means about just what's in our food supply, how pharmaceutical companies are benefiting from it, how we got to be able to eat healthier, but also trust the FDA again to regulate what's in our food. And that's what RFK Jr. wants to do. Perfect day for Dr. Martin McCary to talk about his book, Blind Spots: When Medicine Gets It Wrong and what it means for our health.

So let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. Look, I think Democrats are in the wilderness. As you just said before, there is no clear leader of the party. There are a lot of governors and other people who might emerge, maybe people we don't know about yet.

But there is no clear leader of the party right now. Absolutely true. That's where we're getting from some Dems. They begin to wrap their heads around their historic loss. We'll talk about it.

Number two. There's a reason why no one in the conference came and defended him because we had all seen the videos he was showing of the girls that he had slept with. He'd brag about how he would crush ED medicine and chase it with an energy drink so he could go all night. That is what Senator Mark Wayne well Mark Wayne Mullen said of Nebraska. As you see, as you see We're finding out more and more that The nominations are somewhat causing some controversy with Gates and RFK.

Others are not going to have such problems like Doug Bergam and Marco Rubia. We'll discuss it. Number one. If you really want to be concerned about that, that they have the absolute ability to run the table at least for the next two years. And that's what I think we should all be concerned on, not small tweets or random kinds of appointments.

Uh there you go. Uh that's where Trump's two months from taking power, and the Dems are beginning to realize that they are stuck in third gear. We will talk about it as Trump reflects on his outstanding weekend as he gets ready to take over power. Michael Goodwin is Donald Trump gradually beginning to win over his critics. He said yes to a request to meet with Joe and Mika.

Look, if people want to surrender, I think it's always good to accept their surrender. Uh the fact that they went to Mar-a-Lago, talked about it publicly, I think is is a reflection that they acknowledge not only that he won, but that implicitly, he's not the monster they portrayed him to be. And I think, Brian, that there is a Yeah. a movement taking place, as you suggest, That Trump is kind of crashing through the culture of barriers, too. I mean, you you see him showing up at these at the fights and things like that, and you see the NFL players, even th some of the college players doing the Trump dance.

I mean, that the that the Trump dance is now a thing across the country. Where they used to take a knee. They were taking a knee at those games, and now they're dancing in tribute to him. I think i i in many ways this is really uh for a lot of American men there's a kind of liberation going on here. And I don't mean in a sexual sense.

I mean just that men can be men. They they don't have to sort of be sh be ashamed to be men. I think that's a Of what we're seeing. But I think, on a larger perspective, for all Americans, there is a sense of being liberated. From this overbearing Culture that the Democrats, oh, you can't say that, you can't think that, you're a racist, you're trans, what are your pronouns?

All of that stuff, I think, has just worn people down. And they, even the people who feel like, oh, I ignore it, yes, you can maybe personally ignore it, but it's in the wind. And I think that one of the things that Trump's victory has done, somewhat surprisingly, I must say, is just give people a sense that that era is over. It's coming to a close.

Now we'll look, we'll see if it lasts. But there are other issues too, I think the question of crime, right? Are the D some of those DAs and some of these mayors who lost races in high crime cities, there is a sense that that wheel has turned on that also.

So, I think there are a lot of things that come with this Trump victory that go well beyond just politics and just the power of the presidency. It's a cultural victory as well. And so, when Joe Scarborough and Mika go down to basically give him their sword and surrender, I think that is smart on their part, but it's also an acknowledgement from some of his harshest critics that he won. He won. It's over.

That election is over. That doesn't mean, even though I support him, it doesn't mean I've given up my right to disagree with him and to say so publicly. But it does reflect, I think, a change of the guard. And we're witnessing it. And I think it's terrific because, as I say, that old cultural, that old politics was killing us.

It was sapping the life of the people. And here's the thing is, Michael. We're used to disagreeing with presidents and senators and policy. I got it. But instead of doing it, they just made it so personal.

They say, Oh, he's he's losing his mind, remember? He's too old, he's not the same guy, he meanders at his events go on too long, you know, he's Hitler, he's a fascist. And now people just go, Yeah, I don't think so. I'm ignoring. I don't, yeah, that's not what I think.

So we voted elsewhere, and they can't believe it.

So they either can sit there and say, denounce the country and leave. Like, well, I hear Robert De Niro is leaving the country, which is great. I'm hoping to get confirmation on that. Either you leave the country or you realize that you're out of step and you need to revisit it. You really are almost somebody in a rage, you know, incapable of rational thought.

Now, I want to get to your take on some of Trump's picks. The most controversial is. Is Matt Gates. Ryan Spriebus spent the weekend at Mar-a-Lago, and here's what he told ABC: Cut 13. He made it very clear to me.

The th the Matt Gates pick is not three-dimensional chess. Yeah. another nominee get through, that this was what he wanted to have happen. And when Republicans voted in impeachment against Donald Trump, he had a list of who those people were. And almost all of them in the House are gone.

So he he really wants him to pass. Do you think you will? I don't downtime for a second. I've never thought. That the whole idea of, as you say, three-dimensional chess, that you'll take the heat off of the others.

You know, these will be the sacrificial lambs and then they'll be defeated and Trump will walk away. No, no, no, no, no. That's a misreading of Donald Trump.

So do you think he's going to pass? No, I don't. I I think that Trump will do a recess appointment. that they will fail. Certainly, Gates and probably Kennedy as well.

I mean, I call them the two turkeys. And I just, there's no way, Brian, that they can reform these agencies. Matt Gates is like a missile.

Okay, you want to blow up DOJ? But you're the president of the United States. You can't blow it up, you have to fix it. That's what your job is: to fix it, to make it work properly. That's why you were elected, not to destroy it.

What are we going to take away the Department of Justice? all the Bureau of Prisons, I mean the Attorney General, w we're not gonna we're not gonna indict uh foreign terrorists. I mean, uh wh what does it mean to blow it up? But that's all Matt Gates is good for. He's like a human missile.

He just destroys whatever he touches.

So this idea that Trump will walk away from it, I just think it's a very bad idea. And the same with Kennedy. He's at best a gadfly. And once in a while, he says something that makes sense. But basically, he's a walking, talking conspiracy theorist.

And you cannot have someone like this running health and human services. I mean, it's two these are important agencies and it's it's A momentary pleasure to say, blow them up, start over. You can't do that. That's not realistic. You have to fix them.

That's the hard job. And look, as President, you have a lot of hard jobs, a lot of things to fix. Do not think you can just blow them up and things will be better. They're too important for that. And so that's why I think these are mistakes.

I think neither one is like will likely be confirmed.

So I think that there will be a recess appointment, certainly for Gates and maybe for Kennedy. If I guess there's probably a greater chance that Kennedy would be confirmed than Gates. But I think it's still more likely it will have to be a recess appointment. See, I think that, number one, I think the American people are really concerned about vaccines, and I think they're really concerned about food.

So it doesn't come out of left field anymore where it might have a few years ago before the pandemic. Of all people, Dr. Burke said this over the weekend: Cut 18.

Well, I think the most important thing is what team he would bring with him, because you're talking about really a large cap corporation with a highly diverse group, which you have to really bring together. And frankly, eliminate some of the duplications between these agencies to really become more cost-effective. And so, really having a management person at his side, a chief of staff, perhaps, that has really come out of industry that would know how to bring and look and bring those individuals together that are running the other agencies, because it's a very HHS is probably one of our most complicated departments. She went on to say that we overpromised with the vaccine and didn't define it, that autism is a real concern, and people wonder if vaccines are responsible. And he said, when it comes to food, there's real things there that need to be reformed and talked about how Europe did it.

So I was shocked to see somebody who was a critic of Trump. Who, you know, I thought to go out of her way, somebody who's from that institution, to give him a, to be open-minded about him.

Well, look. I think uh people will Uh go along. and make it work the best they can if there's no alternative. But that's up to the President. I think there are alternatives.

I don't have a candidate. I just think that what has Robert Kennedy done That would tell you he's capable of running this organization. He's got ideas about some of the things they've done wrong, and maybe one or two of those ideas are on point. But overall, he's got he paints as kind of conspiracy. To rob Americans of their health and their money and everything, and everybody is bad, and he's the only truth teller.

I just, I can't accept that, Brian. I think that's such a simplistic view of these complicated organizations. Let's try another topic. I want you to take this: Jensaki being honest, Cut 33. Look, I think Democrats are in the wilderness.

As you just said before, there is no clear leader of the party. Joe Biden is going to be out of office shortly. Kamala Harris just lost the election. There are a lot of governors and other people who might emerge, maybe people we don't know about yet. But there is no clear leader of the party right now.

I agree with that. Am I missing something? Is she missing something? No, I I think that's right. to me, the top two governors that the Democrats sort of hold in r high regard, well I make it three actually, Whitmer in Michigan, Newsome in California and Shapiro in Pennsylvania.

But n you know, none of them wanted to run this time. None of them wanted to to take a chance. And so they didn't challenge Biden, and the party has gone down. And look, you can wait too long. As somebody, I always look at the Chris Christie example, Brian.

Chris Christie should have challenged Barack Obama in 2012. He didn't. Mitt Romney became the nominee, terrible nominee, as it turned out. Chris Christie never really got another chance. Donald Trump came along in 2016.

That was going to be Christie's year. He waited for that. And then Donald Trump blew everybody away. And so you may never get another chance like the Democrats had this time. We'll see.

But right now, there's no sure thing. There's nobody in that party you can say is even the party leader. Once Joe Biden steps out of the White House, Who's really running that Democratic Party? Chuck Schumer, Adam Schiff? Uh Hakeem Jeffries.

none of them, I think Nancy Pelosi again, none of them really rise to that level. And so I think that they are in the wilderness, as Saki says. It's maybe the first time I've agreed with her in some time. I just love Fetterman says Democrats should stop freaking out of everything Trump does. An op-ed by Joe Manchin, the American people pick Trump now is the time to deliver solutions for everyone, goes an op-ed.

I think there might be a chance that the next people, the next group that emerges from the Democrats will be center left instead of way left. And they're going to look to squelch. the uh uh the uh squad because they embarrass them. They embarrass them, and Trump loves to label that the face of the other party as soon as they become the opposition again. Hey, it's been an exciting time.

Do you know what you're writing about next, Michael? I d I don't Brian, but there's a lot of maturity here in New York with old Kathy. Hokle and her uh and her congestion pricing hoax. I mean, it's unbelievable what she did. She it was going to be fifteen dollars.

She reduced it to nine percent and says it's a forty percent savings. It's zero right now.

So some savings. That's a government savings. But look, I think you're absolutely right about the Democratic Party. I think Saki's right. And I think it would be great if the core centrist of that party would square.

Would squelch the squad because the squad was kind of the scouts of the far left, and their success emboldened the party, and it went too far left. And that includes Schumer and Biden. Oh, there it is. They all followed along like lemmings. Thanks so much, Michael Goodwin.

Appreciate it. And what Michael's also referring to, congestion pricing just for driving in the city.

So, for people in New Jersey, Connecticut, New York that have to commute there, $2,000. Over $2,000 comes out of your budget. Idiots. Don't move. Politics, current events, and news that affects you.

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Our labor is Barely where we need to do. We can't afford a labor shortage. Back during Obama, we had a labor shortage. And there were times where we actually lost some crop. We left melons in the field unharvested and we lost them.

I think people will look and say, but wait a minute, they're Americans who are unemployed. Why can't you just hire them? They don't want to come out here and work in these extreme conditions. 100-plus degree temperatures, dust. Hard work.

What if you paid them more? It doesn't matter. You know, we pay some of the highest wages for farm workers in the nation, right here in California, and they won't come out.

So that is a farm owner in California, and where I think 20% of our crops come from. And they say 40% of the workforce is illegal aliens.

So it's bad. And you think to yourself, okay, get rid of them. But what happens is they're extremely hardworking. They've been showing up all the time for years. And they're doing the job that gets melons on our table and food into the stores.

And if you got rid of them, what are we going to do? I think I have a theory on this. I think this goes about like that. They're maybe the 10th most important illegal immigrant group. And I think we could do something where we expedite people who have track records with work visas.

They don't become citizens, but they can work here. This way, everybody pays taxes on them, and we fill those jobs, and nothing breaks between on the food chain. Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Joe. If he had said, like, I'm going to ban vaccines, I would be very against it, but he said.

Just the other day, he said, no, choice. If you want them, you have them. It's not going to be mandated. That's, I think, what a lot of people object to do before. I mean, I've said it many times.

There are some pathogens that if they were going around, I would fight you for the vaccine. Right.

And there are others that, you know, I just didn't want, like the one we just had. There was a time in which he might have been asked to leave the country with that statement. That was Bill Maher on Friday. He's going to have a season finale next week, but weighing in on RFK and being a little atypical from the left, who suddenly have turned on him big time. But I'm more into specifically what he stands for and what he wants to do, from food to vaccines to overall health, and streamlining a bureaucracy that has not been effective and, in my view, exposed during the 2020 pandemic.

Dr. Marty McCary knows all about it, Professor at John's Hopkins School of Medicine, author of Blind Spots: When Medicine Gets It Wrong and What It Means for Our Health. Dr. McCary, first off, what do you think about his nomination? Are you glad to see it, or does it worry you like other people in the medical profession?

No, I'm not worried about his nomination. I'm glad to see it. What I'm worried about is the current path we're on. I'm worried about the status quo. I'm worried about all the medical leaders who misled us.

In so many ways, that's what should be raising deep concern. Not RFK Jr., who's now talking about the root causes of our chronic disease epidemic. He's actually talking about the health of the population. Up until this point, politicians have only talked about different ways to finance the broken healthcare system.

Now he's actually talking about how to fix it by addressing health.

So I know he's a guy that was focused heavily on the environment, guy came over to vaccines and other things and food a little bit later. It's going to be an interesting nomination process. He's going to ask to defend all his beliefs from what you know. Is he prepared to do that? Yes, I mean, if you look at what he is actually saying he wants to do in the job.

How could anybody oppose this stuff? He wants to, number one, address healthcare corruption. Number two, return to good, solid research so we can use evidence-based medicine as the gold standard. And number three, he wants to address childhood chronic diseases. I mean, there's nothing partisan about that.

That's why it was a top campaign issue, and that's why. That's why people united, parents from different sides of political aisle, over this particular issue. You know, what's interesting, too, is when it comes to vaccines, he's saying you can have a choice. But the way you guys have explained it to me, it was explained to me, it's been explained to me in the past, is: well, we need everyone to get a vaccine, or is that going to be effective? Is that true?

Look, I think vaccines save lives, and I know Bobby Kennedy believes that.

Now, whether or not you follow the rigid recommendations that are out there now, or say, for example, use the Japanese schedule or one of the accepted schedules in Europe, like the UK schedule, where they may not give the hepatitis B vaccine on the day of birth. Remember, hepatitis B is a sexually transmitted infection, and you get it from IV drug use. Do you need it on the day of birth? If somebody wants to make a personal decision and modify that and postpone it till later in childhood, we live in a free country. And so I think sometimes questions are good.

Remember, this is the same establishment right now that's worried about a new measles outbreak. This is the same establishment. That lost so much trust over the last four years. And that's why we're seeing less compliance. It's not because of Bobby Kennedy, it's because of vaccine mandates and cloth masks on toddlers and shutting schools down.

And opioids are not addictive for 20 years, we heard that. And the food pyramid, this is all dogma from the government. That's why people are skeptical, not because of Bobby Kennedy.

So, do you know Dr. Richard Besser? Yes.

So here's he's a big opponent. Cut 25.

So it's not a matter of saying, oh, yes, you have access to your vaccines. It's pushing the idea that vaccines should be something that is totally up to the individual. We have a social contract in our country. There are things we do for our own health, but there are things we do that are good for ourselves, our families, and our communities. And vaccination falls into that category.

And having someone who denies that in that role is extremely dangerous.

So that's what he's worried about. You heard that? Yeah. Look, what's and just um Just so you know, he is a former political appointee and he is a. He pushed vaccine mandates.

He pushed cloth masks on toddlers. He pushed prolonged school closures.

So that's the doctor we just heard from. If they would take 10%. Of their enthusiasm around the rigidity of the vaccine schedule, and actually talked about our poison food supply or the toxic milieu or the chronic diseases. Or cancer going up in young people, or early onset Alzheimer's that has tripled. Or the fact that 40% of our children have a mental health diagnosis, where is the outrage and deep concern about those issues?

I think we've been misled with leaders in healthcare that are not realizing what's happening. What's happening is we are watching our nation's children turn into a generation of patients right before our eyes. And more pharmaceutical products is not the answer. Right.

You know, the one thing they also have a stat here, the share of kindergartners with vaccine exemptions has more than doubled over the past 10 years. I imagine mostly over the last three, from 1.6 to 3.3. And I know that doctors, I know some situations, doctors get mad. When you ask, well, does my kid really need that? And there's some people legitimately concerned about autism and it's linked to vaccines.

He has brought that up in the past. There's a video about him there or earlier, in earlier RFK talking to Joe Scarborough. And they're both agreeing, why are all these kids getting autism? Does it have anything to do with it? But you can't bring that up because people go crazy.

Listen to him talk about this, CUT 26, former CDC acting director. This was a question that was asked and addressed decades ago. And to continue to lift that up is a cruel thing to do. We need to, as a nation, address chronic diseases in children. And one of the dangerous things about RFK Jr.

is that there are bits of things he says that are true and they're mixed in. And it makes it really hard to sort out what things you should follow because they're based on fact and which things are not. We should address chronic diseases. Autism is one of those. And spend money trying to understand.

What are the causes of autism and how can you address that? But keep lifting up the idea that it has something to do with vaccination is really a cruel thing to do. Is it cruel in your mind? Look, don't buy the fear-mongering. I mean, that's what you're hearing from.

Dr. Basser, who was the acting director of the CDC under President Obama. He's a partisan. This is the guy who is pushing vaccine mandates. You know, there is a vaccine schedule and it is recommended and it's out there.

And RK Jr. says he got his kids vaccinated, that he's been getting the flu shot every year, that he's not anti-vax. And I can tell you in the limited conversations I have with him, he is not anti-vax. He's for vaccine transparency. Do we really believe this dogma we're hearing from the establishment that vaccines are an all-or-nothing belief system?

Do they support the anthrax vaccine that was a total disaster and recalled? Do they support the initial rotavirus vaccine that was a total disaster and recalled for harming babies? It's not a religion. You've got to use a scientific process. And people like Dr.

Besser are using fear, and people are not buying it anymore after four years of COVID. I hear you.

Dr. Burks, by the way, I'm not going to play it for now, but she was actually more open to it. And she did something that I think Donald Trump's doing. Asking questions about what we're eating. People are looking at these boxes, hearing this conversation.

And instead of running from it, do you have to stop asking questions on vaccines, on what's in your food? They're entertaining it, listening to it, and saying, you know, how do we address this? Rather than saying RFK is a crackpot. And you wrote a book about it, too, about what we eat. Yeah, look, we have huge blind spots in modern medicine, and the food supply is something they never talk about.

Never. They're pushing these medical establishment oligarchs are pushing Ozempic now for six-year-olds, and they never talk about. The school lunch program and cooking classes for people with diabetes and other, it's all lip service. And so they're playing with people and they're playing with fear. Ask one of these doctors.

How many days Follow-up: Where in the initial safety studies of the hepatitis B vaccine that's now given a birth routinely? It was a five-day follow-up safety study. That's all we have on that.

So, I mean, are you allowed to ask questions or is this a new McCarthyism? And I think this is the battle for free speech, especially when it comes to health. It's two things. It's either: how dare you ask me? I went to school for this.

And number two is I don't have the answer, so I'll back you off by making you feel less than whole or inadequate.

So this Marion Nessel is a senior advisor in the Department of HHS from 86 to 88, said this about our food, CUT 50. I was told on my first day on the job that that report would never say anything about eating less meat, because if it did, the Department of Agriculture under pressure from the meat industry would prevent the report from coming out.

So the idea that the food industry influences American food policy is an absolute given. You feel that way too.

Well It's amazing. We're listening to Marion Nessel, though. Marion Nessel gave us the food pyramid. I mean, one of the most flawed and corrupt nutrition pieces of informa misinformation ever to come out of the world. Intentionally corrupt?

No, it's just that the many of the people who wrote it were paid off, including my former head of nutrition at the Harvard School of Public Health, paid off by the food industry, and they never mentioned ultra processed foods or sugars or seed oils or refined carbohydrates.

So Marion Nessel may be right in the sense that there are special interests out there. They're trying to have influence, but this is exactly what Bobby Kennedy is trying to address as his number one issue. He said it. The number one thing he wants to address is corruption in our government health agencies. Dr.

McCary, thanks so much. I think it's such an important conversation, and I think a lot of it's going to come out in these hearings. And I think they're going to be surprised that he has a lot of answers. And if you're going to beat him, it's going to be you're going to beat him on ideas. You're going to bring up stuff they're going to bring up stuff about his earlier days when he was living less than a perfect life.

I don't really think that applies today.

So they're going to have to go out his ideas. And then, like to say, do you put management experts around him and talk about different ways to streamline? I think Elon Musk will be an ally, too. Final thought? Look, I think the beatdown on vaccines that you're seeing in the media and this meltdown among some politicos, it's not about vaccines.

It's about his broader agenda to address. giant corporate interests in healthcare, and that's what they're really scared of. Big audio. By the way, a great column in the Wall Street Journal today: how the left loved him until he left the left, and now they want to vilify him. Thanks so much, Dr.

McCary. Appreciate it. And go pick up his book. You will love it, and you'll learn a lot from it. It's called Blind Spots: When Medicine Gets It Wrong and What It Means for Our Health.

Don't move. It's Brian Killmead. The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead. Last night, Jake Paul and Mike Tyson teamed up to defeat everyone watching.

He was totally right. I feel like absolutely robbed. I will never watch any jocanery with Tyson. He went in the ring, didn't try. He obviously, in my view, could have, you know, he was able to make sure he wasn't hit with any punches.

Head was moving, but he wouldn't actually force the action ever. This guy is not even, I'm not talking about old. I didn't even see old. I saw a lack of ability or trying. You know what old would be?

Taking wild, slow punches, but instead, he didn't throw any punches. Really ridiculous. And I really feel like they put on a big show. Netflix couldn't even broadcast. It kept freezing.

I was blaming my cable box. I had to move to three T V s in order to see it. When I finally saw it, I couldn't believe what a waste of time it was. And wasted three and a half hours to get to it. It was just absolute abuse of the viewer.

I don't know if you guys if you were smart enough not to see it, it's not so much a guy got old or got beat up or he connected and knocked out the younger guy early. These guys absolutely played us for suckers, both of them. One got twenty million, one got ten. And by the way. I'm not playing here for Suckers on the 15th.

I'm going to be in Jacksonville at the Florida Theater, History of Liberty, and Laughs. We're going to sell that place out. We're selling great. About to keep it up, BrianKillme.com. And James, you're in Jacksonville.

James, you know Gates. You understand? He's the former congressman now. Your thoughts about Gates and RFK getting through. Yes, great show as usual, Brian.

Love it. And I got in late on one of your callers. And uh I could tell from his voice. Uh Yeah, I knew the guy, but I don't know who it was, but he was really beaten up on Bobby Kennedy and Matt Gates. And through his voice inflection and then, of course, his content, he picked them apart and said, Oh, gosh.

This one will never get in there. Michael Goodwin was our guest. I think it was Michael Goodwin, our guest, but go ahead. Right.

And to me, it was old guard. I mean, in real estate, if you have a house that's beyond its economic feasibility and they finally get to a point where, unless it's some vintage thing, they're not going to repair it anymore. They're going to crush it and build a new one.

Now, I'm not saying you can do that with all of government, but with these institutions, maybe that's what we need. Look in history. Nobody knows history better than you, in my opinion. Maybe David Barton, but you're an incredible historian. Look at Frederick Douglass.

Look at the people down through history that stepped out of lockstep and they were trailblazers. And I stood up for it and stood on the truth. Because he's going to be going against the judiciary committee. He's going to have other people question him. He's going to be doing interviews.

And he's got to say, This is what I'm going to do. He can't just come out and say food's bad. Vaccines in time, but you can make your own choices. They're going to go, Do you realize that some vaccines aren't going to be effective? Let's say it's herd immunity.

Do you realize what polio and what it was able to do and change around the country and save a whole generation from being inflicted with got FDR? And he's got to have answers. And when I listened with Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan had more questions than answers, but he's going to be dealing with other experts. And if he could stand up, you know, James, if he stands up to that questioning, these are supposed to be, they aren't supposed to be show trials. They're supposed to be legitimate.

Legitimate questions about people that have to vote up or down. And I think that and the And the Gates and the Congressman Gates testimony could be paid for you. I think it's going to be wild. John, WOKV in St. Augustine.

Hey, John. Brian, hey, good morning. You used the perfect term just then, and we got to stop the left and the deep state and the system from doing it. It's a show trial against Republican candidates. Being put in by a president who just got in with a mandate, won the popular vote and the electoral vote.

It is systemic. In the system, that they attack the Republican choices for all the cabinet positions and all the choices. Look back, Brian, when when Biden got in. Did they ever put any of those candidates for trials and all of those cabinet positions ever and attack them incessantly? I know what you mean.

You have a bad mayor who is a terrible transportation secretary. You had a secretary, a four-star general, just fall on his face because he's never organized a thing, just be actually terrible, no energy. We know about all his ill-signed decisions, not assert himself at all. And then, you know, you saw, I think Jake Sullivan's absolutely awful, but didn't face confirmation. Blinken's got a terrible track record.

I hear you.

But it was brought up. It was brought up before. And I think Mark Wayne Mullen did a pretty good job on Sunday just saying what you just said. It's nice to have questions, but where was that scrutiny when Biden was putting up these horrible choices? And no one said anything about it, and we know how terrible they did.

Like, I think Pete will be really good. I think RFK should be given a shot. And the thing is, if he falls on his face during the nomination process, then that's it. You didn't pass the audition. But this is an audition.

And hopefully if people just make speeches They're not going to. I mean, everything's just going to go on party line is going to get through. But if they get there, like. And they say, listen, we got some real questions, and here's some medical questions. You don't have a medical background.

Why do you think you'd be able to organize this? What did they do wrong in the past? What are you going to stop? What do you mean by big pharma having influence? If you have all these questions, if he has answers and examples, he'll win over the public and make every Republican vote for him.

Remember, Republicans can do it and they can lose four votes. Frank Hilucho. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmead. Thanks for being here, everybody.

Brian Kill Meet Cho. We come to you from Midtown Manhattan, which I understand is going to get a new focus when it comes to crime and punishment. Speaking of punishment, there's soon going to be a A infrastructure tax, a congestion pricing.

So now it's going to cost more to work in the most expensive city in the country, just icing out all working-class people or all working people. Nice. President Trump's trying to stop it, but what can he do as president-elect? And New York City makes these rules. New York State actually makes these rules.

This hour, going to be joined by Max Lugavir, health and science journalist. His podcast, The Genius Life, director of the documentary, Empty Little Boxes. We'll focus on our food and what RFK is going to be looking at. He dealt with it personally, did a lot of his own research. Lucas Tomlinson is traveling with President Biden over in Brazil at the G20, and Lucas joins us now.

So, Lucas, how's the trip been? Because after all, this is it. This is a swan song for the President of the United States. It doesn't seem to have the normal cachet that he usually has. Is it because they know he's only got a month left?

Well, Brian, it's great to be back. There's no question that's part of it. One of the most eye-opening parts of this trip, both to Peru and now here in Brazil, is that China is the top dog in Latin America. If you go back to the year 2000, the United States was the largest trading partner with every country in Latin America, from Mexico all the way here to Brazil, down to Argentina. Today, it's China.

Over the weekend in Peru, Chinese President Xi Jinping was feted to a state visit by Biden was not. Xi did the ribbon-cutting virtually from the presidential palace in Peru of a $1.3 billion mega port. The Chinese are kicking $3 billion more into that country. Those same honors came here to Rio. President Xi was afforded a state visit.

Biden was not. And Brian, just a few minutes ago, after we talked on Fox and Friends, President Biden arrived to his first event here in Rio. The red carpet was laid out, and then he veered off the red carpet. He did not take the same route as the other world leaders. It's believed because a ramp was involved, a slight increase in the grade there, that all the other world leaders took.

Biden did not. It looked like he went to a side entrance to use perhaps an elevator. It was notable. Unlike the G7 Conference of Allies, Russia is here. Putin's not, but his foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, is here.

Of course, Chinese President Xiu, I mentioned earlier.

So it's not all a meeting of like-minded allies here. While President Biden condemns Russia's large-scale war on Ukraine, not every world leader shares that view here in Brazil, certainly not Brazil's president. Yeah, fascinating because, number one, President Biden deserves what he got. He made a choice. He made sure he wanted, he thought Lula was a better choice for Brazil.

And Bolsonaro has been basically alienated, exiled, even though, because he was looked at as a Trumper. But they knew when Lula came in, China would have carte blanche, and they're having it. Lula's background is one, criminal. Number two, he was mentored by Castro. You know, he looks up to Chavez, Cesar Chavez.

So, Julio Chavez.

So, what do you expect? This guy's a communist. Right? Band X. Kind of wild.

Yeah, he did that too.

So, this guy has let all foreign influence in, and the guy that was trying to bring free market principles back is now out. And that's the bed that Joe Biden laid in it. Everything he's done has turned out bad, and this is just the latest example. Also, he tried to get. Venezuela back in the fold by saying, Hey, if you just promise to have free and fair elections, we'll start buying your oil again.

And we did, and they didn't. How did that work out, Lucas?

Well, there's no question that China is the one who owns South America's United States presidents travel, they are always afforded the highest. Highest honors. That's not happening here.

So, whether it's from Venezuela here to Brazil, certainly in Peru, Mexico, Central, South America, China is the top dog. That's been the most eye-opening part of this whole trip, Brian, is when President Biden's motorcade left Lima to go to the airport in Peru. people were flooding the streets with Chinese flags. Walking around the streets here of Rio, I see Chinese flags. I don't see any American flags.

It's China that's a top dog here, not the United States. And then that's got to be of governmental mandate because nobody likes China. I mean, that that's not a beloved country. What do they do? The Belt and Road program is not endearing.

It's extortion. But, Lucas, let's fast forward over to Ukraine, where you talked to me today and led me to the Bloomberg story that showed that the North Koreans are most likely heading to putting 100,000 of their fighters into theater to take on the Ukrainians. They have 10,000 there now trying to take back that one area of land in Russia. that Ukraine took. Could you bring me up to date?

Well, that's right, Brian. There are is this Bloomberg story that up to one hundred thousand North Korean troops are going to be deployed to Russia. There's no question that, that played a role. Certainly, President Biden's lame duck status did as well, having only two months left in office. But White House officials are saying that this is a game changer.

Introducing North Korean soldiers on the battlefield, both in Russia and then in Ukraine, that's what led them to this decision to an about phase to let Ukraine use these short-range ballistic missiles that previously had only been used by Ukraine to hit Crimea. The Biden White House is now giving the green light for the first time to let Ukraine strike, but only in this region of Kursk where these North Korean soldiers were taken. Of course, it's very embarrassing for Vladimir Putin when Ukraine launched this counteroffensive into Russian territory. And that was back in August, Brian. A lot of people thought this was going to be a quick strike, quick incursion.

Go in, hit some targets, kill some Russian soldiers, retreat back to Ukraine or head back to Ukraine. Ukraine has owned a portion of Russia for months now. It's very embarrassing to Putin. He sent 50,000 of his own soldiers, and now North Korea is going in. Of course, North Korea has been sending not just artillery, but also short-range ballistic missiles as well.

Of course, Iran is sending in their drones. And just in the last 24 hours, Russia launched its largest missile and drone strike on Ukraine. Of course, that was right after the German Chancellor Schultz spoke to Vladimir Putin. Those questions came up here in Rio when we were briefed by the Deputy National Security Advisor John Feiner. You know, what was the result of that call if Putin just hangs up the phone and orders this massive attack?

Bottom line, Brian, things are not going well in Ukraine. The front lines have been static for about two years. We're about to reach the third anniversary of this full-scale invasion in Ukraine. 57,000 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed. That's about the same number the United States lost in Vietnam.

much smaller timeline, not even three years. Of course, the Russians have lost twice that amount. But you don't want to get in a war of attrition with the Russians. That's what we've seen over the last few years: the war is not going well. Yes, it's a great story that the Russians were not able to take heed, there's no question.

But if you don't mind the sports metaphor, that's the first quarter here, Brian. We don't judge a game just on the results of the first quarter. What we're talking about right now is where things are today. Russia still controls about 20% of Ukraine, and they're running out of ammo. That's why they were begging to use these attacks to hit some targets.

Now, there's some people saying, why announce it like this? Why leak it to the press? Probably would have been better just to hit those Russian targets without them knowing this approval was given. Yeah, that would have probably been a better tactic.

So the question is: how do you get some more money there when the American well is running dry, especially with the new president? Congressman French Hill was asked about that. Cut 41.

Well, the Repo Act that was included in the National Security Package I worked on very closely with Chairman Mike McCall of the Foreign Affairs Committee gives the United States the authority to not only take frozen assets but confiscate them and use them for the benefit of Ukraine. Uh the loan you're referring to has been negotiated between the Europeans and the Americans to back the Ukrainian government. I believe that will go through in my judgment. But I would urge President Trump, as he takes office, to actually follow the law and confiscate those Russian assets, as I believe that gives both Ukraine, the United States and Europe a much stronger negotiating position with Russia. The downsides of the Repo Act were just breaking the norms in the banking cycle, getting off the SWIFT system.

It forces people to look again beyond the dollar, right? Right.

One of the big issues also, Brian, is Ukraine's presence says that only ten percent, ten percent of the money that and weaponry that Congress allocated to Ukraine in April. Remember that sixty billion dollar package Only ten percent of it has reached Ukraine. Who's to blame there? It seems like there's major logsham going on with the Pentagon and the White House. It's not clear wh what the holdup is.

Certainly the the RICO Act and taking Russian assets is Certainly on the table as well, certainly on the table for the new administration. You know, there's about $300 billion in seized assets. Certainly, that would not make President Putin very happy if they were seized, but certainly could be used as a bargaining ship in the negotiations, which. People think are coming.

So you're saying only 10% of the money. that is allocated with equipment. That's That's according to Zielinski. He went public with this. This is, according to Zelensky, said, What's going on?

You guys are still slow-walking the weapons. He was talking to the White House. He made a very public pronouncement about this. Obviously, a lot has happened in the last few weeks, so be forgiven this. Story got buried a little bit, but Zelinsky says only 10% of the weapons and money allocated by Congress has made its way to Ukraine.

So, all this talk about getting all these weapons and money now to go for Winchester against Russia, if you don't mind that expression, that has not happened. Only 10% of the money and weaponry has made it to Ukraine. And there's only that's the fault of this administration. I mean, there should be held to pay all the way down the line. That's what Zelensky is saying.

He pointed his fingers pretty directly at the Biden administration. Of course, he's been begging to use these short range ballistic missiles, these ATACMs as they're known, against targets in Russia. And really, this follows the script of this whole war, Brian. And we're about to approach the third anniversary. It seems like at every turn, Every major weapon system that Biden has approved has taken months and delays.

It's meant more setbacks on the battlefield. Certainly, tens of thousands of Ukrainian soldiers have been killed. I mean, just one more time: 57,000 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed, not wounded. Killed. This cannot keep going like that.

Those are that you do not want to get in a war of attrition with the Russians. Right.

Uh but they say seven hundred thousand Russians have been brought off the battlefield? Correct. That's killed and wounded. Yes, it's more than double of the Ukrainian casualties. Hi, Lucas.

You're in Peru. Excuse me, you're in Brazil. But you still have your eye on the rest of the world. It's going to be real different when Biden leaves the scene. Also, I saw that he left the stage yesterday and walked into the jungle.

That's right. He was in Brazil yesterday. He went to the rainforest. He's the first sitting President to visit the Amazon. Of course, Theodore Roosevelt, after losing the nineteen twelve election, he made a trip to the Amazon.

That almost killed him. A little better results here from President Biden. He did visit the rainforest. He announced some more money for Brazil to preserve the rainforest. And that's what he did before arriving here in Rio.

Right.

Just you shouldn't leave and go into the rainforest. You should probably. Get the rest of your people. Lucas Tomlinson, thanks so much. Appreciate it.

Brian. Always a pleasure. All right. Doing a great job of the G twenty.

Soon he'll be following around a different president. It would be much more exciting. Believe me, if I know Trump, if he gets off and there's no red carpet there, he'll probably say, Pull up the stairs, we're leaving. Max Lugavir at the bottom of the hour. Your calls next, 1866-408-7669.

Coming to you on a need-to-know basis, because Mandy, you need to know. It's Brian Kilmead. The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmead. If you took away my workforce, you wouldn't need to.

If you go into the San Joaquin Valley and you start doing what you're saying. Um It's over. The country will stop. I mean, it will literally stop because the food system won't move. And like Joe Delboski, he insists these undocumented farm workers are not taking jobs that would otherwise go to American citizens.

I don't care what you pay them. I don't care if you're paying twenty-six dollars an hour. It ain't going to happen. They're not going to get up at four or five in the morning, drive to the field. And pick fruit.

So that is a the head of the of the Farmers League president, Manuel Kuna Junior, just talking about the reality of farms. He was talking about California, but could be the rest of the country. And they said a large number of our workforce, maybe forty percent, are illegal aliens. But there are hardworking people that show up every day that we can count on doing jobs that Americans don't want to do. And even if you doubled it, he says it's not going to affect anything.

But yet, they said in past years when Obama got tough on work visas, they said that we just left food in the field. Doug in Indiana. Hey, Doug. Brian, you there? Yes.

What's your solution to this? Yeah. So I I disagree with the idea that Americans won't do those jobs. I think that's uh you know, I I I get it, but at the same time, we've got huge numbers of the population of young people that need to learn a work ethic and that are looking for work. And there's a lot of people that can't afford college.

I think if you take high school graduates, you take young people that are college age that don't want to go to college and want to learn a skill, you put them into manufacturing and the government to provide incentives for them to go into manufacturing and agriculture. These people think that's a nonstarter. What do you what do you th I mean, why would he why would he exaggerate the situation? You think he wants to hold on to illegals? I'm not sure what his motivation is there, but I think he's wrong.

I think that our country already spends billions of dollars on illegals through health care and through legal money. That money could be better spent and invested in young Americans. If manufacturers or particularly agricultural companies don't want to pay $15 an hour for an American, they'd rather pay $10 an hour for an illegal. They can continue paying the ten dollars an hour and the government can supplement that. And that money could either go to the point is, look, I'm not an agricultural expert, Doug.

And I appreciate you're you're trying to but you're saying this, but these guys say that Americans don't want to do the job. Here's more from what he said. Cut 46. We need to figure out how we handle those folks. versus the ones that are criminals, child molesters, whatever you may want to call that's been coming across the border.

They've worked here for 30 years.

Now you're going to throw them out of the country. What about this thought, Doug? What if there was a way To expedite work visas, reform it. Evidently, the people in this system say it's antiquated, it's from the 1980s. And you get work feasas for people that qualify.

Let's say you have 15 years on the job and you got these farmers that will vouch for you.

So we have temporary work visas. From here on in, we'll have a new system, but only done after we seal the border.

So I just think there's a difference. Between Hardworking people come here for a job. I don't know how they got here. They overstayed their visa, did something irresponsible, whatever. And I think by the time we get to them, because it's going to be criminals first, the ones that have been here for ten year criminals, then you have the terror watch list, you have the daily criminals.

ICE is going to be fanned out. They're probably not going to go to the cornfields of California. But when we get to them. the work visas, the student visas, where people have an incentive to stay here after we train them and help our tech center and maybe our management base and our engineer base I think that could be all part of reform, but we can't even talk about all this until the border sealed. And our immigrant and these people that have are here illegally or have overstayed their visas are addressed.

James was in KCRS in Odessa. James. Hey, Brian. Um I just don't think that it can be said as a blanket thing for every industry in America. Good.

You that if we get rid of the workers that are there, that American citizens will for sure go in. I don't think that's a fair blanket statement. I'll work out in the or field And I will tell you, when when job openings happen, Very few Critique what the For lack of a better word, very few traditional Americans even apply for those things. I hear there's a huge part of oil workers, a huge part of the energy industry is used with illegal aliens.

So we have to address it. And I got to talk to people in the industry, not ones who are looking to maximize their profit by hiring an illegal alien for half the price. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about industries they say they can't exist without it. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin.

It's Brian Killmead. The thing that I really liked about him, people should think about going through this confirmation process. This guy actually cares about what kids eat. And I'm into that now. I'm into longevity.

We eat a lot of crappy food. Weed, too much sugar, too much salt. This is very pragmatic stuff.

So, if you're appealing to a mother and telling her, look, I'm not going to ban potato chips, I'm not going to ban sugary sodas, but I want to educate people as to why they shouldn't eat them. And I think that's a great mandate. I'm all for it. Get him in there. Shake it up.

So that is Kevin O'Leary commenting on RFK taking over an agency that he thinks is too bloated, and he thinks food needs to be examined. Dr. Burks said the same thing. Dr. Deborah Burks, I know, big subtle opponent of President Trump during the pandemic, badmouthed him after he left office.

And I was shocked to see this point of view from the former White House coronavirus coordinator, CUD twenty one.

Well, we're not talking about eliminating good food. We're talking about using all of their ingredients in a way that is more healthy for Americans. And I think that's what people are calling for now. Europe did it years ago. And I think we're capable of doing that.

We are really smart, high levels of technology. We can make food tasty without a lot of these additives because we can see that other groups are doing it in a small way.

So we're not talking about eliminating the need for wheats and grains. We're talking about putting those together in a healthy way. So she's open to it. And I love that.

Somebody from the institution, someone from the bureaucracy that was open to it, she knows it needs to change. Just like people who are in their 70s, 80s look at the Pentagon and are pro-defense, but think it's got to change. It is too bloated.

So, how about this fact-check when it comes to food? New York Times has a fact-check on RFK's claims about a popular breakfast cereal, which we know is Fruit Loops. Remember, he keeps using this as an example.

Well, the Times attempted to fact-check RFK on the Canadian Fruit Loops. They don't have the same ingredients. The reporter admits that Canadian fruit loops get their color from carrots and blueberries.

Well, you I cannot believe I'm talking this much about fruit loops.

Well, US version uses red dye. And blue dye, and also have bilated hydroxylene or BHT. A lab-made chemical that is used for freshness, the strange fact check, which seems to prove that RFK was right and disproved Kennedy's point.

So basically, the fact check said they're using fake ingredients as opposed to Canadians who are using real blueberries and carrots. I had to read this four times.

So now, looking back at the fact check, Mr. Kennedy has singled out Fruit Loops as an example of a product with too many artificial ingredients. Then goes the ingredients listed above. Aurora. It's crazy.

So, this person, Brad Kongo, is spitting out my coffee after reading the New York Times fact check on RFK Jr. Charlie Kirk writes, This is what passes for a fact check. The media lie a lot, but fortunately for us, they're also very stupid, which is true, because you say in the New York Times, I expected to read this story and think to myself, okay, they're going to say, you know, it turns out the Canadians don't do anything different.

Well, they do a lot different and they use fresh ingredients. And Europe is even better. They straightened out their food, they say, ten years ago.

So let's go to the phones. Rick in North Carolina. Hey, Rick. Yeah. Thank you.

I did want to say about the immigration. I used to live in the Caribbean and a lot of the locals used to go to Canada. for the season to pick apples and then they come back. Right.

So I don't understand why These immigrants have to live here. Why not work here for half a year and then go back? That's what I was talking about, work visas. You come here, you work, you go back. And a lot of them don't want to live here.

You know, they'll come in, but they just said: by the time I get through the process, it's going to take years. I can't miss a season.

So they'll go in and they'll send for their cousins and their friends and they'll go and they work. And you look at these farmers, they say they produce. The only thing that'll change, I think, will be automation.

Somehow they find a way to go in and not pick. Berries manually, or not put mangoes manually. Find a machine that doesn't, like they do corn, I guess.

So. That's just it. I'm wide open to not knowing about this industry, but I'd like to know what this industry needs. You don't have to have a conversation about criminals and anyone from the terrorist watch list. And I don't want any more chain migration.

You get in from North Carolina, Rick, and you're able to send for your family. I don't want that. I don't want the lotto either. I don't want random people getting in. We just need to set up a system.

It lets people let's say they marry someone from another country, they want to come here and live. You shouldn't take thousands of dollars and years to make it happen. Go ahead, get your scrutiny, make sure it's not a mail order bride from Bulgaria. And it's not some type of scam. After that, Let them go.

Don't waste a lot of manpower on it. But nothing sorts. Until the border sealed. And the criminals start getting scooped up. But for those people just in these areas living illegally, But somehow, doing it for the last 10, 15 years, they're not going to get to you for a while, thanks to Joe Biden, because he left over 10 million people in.

Mary in Austin, Texas. Hey, Mary. Um Can you hear me? Yep.

Okay. I have worked in technology for a very long time in all different types of industries and So I'm watching like on a macro level, you know, different developments of robotics and AI and all this tech, but I'm I'm not really seeing where the developments make sense all the time. Automating fruit picking would be great. I don't think that's really been a focus, but they are automating all types of jobs that Americans do want to do.

So is anyone going to take into consideration prioritizing AI and robotics development in order to automate? jobs that people really don't want to do. It doesn't make sense to automate all these jobs that people want. I don't think anyone's thinking about a long term that way.

Well, I think so too. But I think when it comes to the farming community, they're not. Without resources. They're very powerful. U.S.

Agriculture Department is a very prestigious position. And I'm sure if there were things to pioneer and innovate, R D to get more automation into it, they'd be into it. I mean, they're not so caught up in tradition.

So I hear you. We're automating positions and having AI take over positions that Americans want. I know you're not going to be able to do that. For example, you hear people call call a call center. Every single person that calls a call center wants to get a person on the phone, like 99% of the time.

I want to talk to a human being. And yet the the the everyone every company has decided that the thing to do is to move further away from that. I guess I just don't understand why on a on a macro level. Again, it's not to indict any one company, but it just doesn't make sense to me. I hear you.

Thanks so much for the call. Mike in California. Hey, Mike. Yeah. Hey Brian, how you doing?

Good, what's in your mind? Yeah, so your last caller was um saying stuff like, oh, you know, California property owners want to pay farm workers for less than minimum wage. And to my knowledge, I mean, that's you can't do that. The labor laws still apply. If you start paying under minimum wage, Then you're going to have a labor lawyer down your throat.

No, you're 100% right. And I think that's not the point. And one of the questions that Martha Rads to her credit, she does good reports out in the field. She said, what if you double the price? In fact, here it is: cut 45%.

If you took away my workforce, you wouldn't eat. If you go into the San Joaquin Valley and you start doing what you're saying, Um It's over. The country will stop. I mean literally stop because the food system won't move. And like Joe Delboski, he insists these undocumented farm workers are not taking jobs that would otherwise go to American citizens.

I don't care what you pay them. I don't care if you're paying twenty-six dollars an hour. It ain't going to happen. They're not going to get up at four or five in the morning, drive to the field. and pick fruit.

So They say the money's not going to. You know, they say that money doesn't matter. People don't want to do it.

So thanks for the call. I don't know what to say except for This is going to be about the seventh wave of focus. I don't see them going into the farming community and grabbing these people out. I just don't. If there was a criminal enterprise going on, there's child abuse going on, labor laws abuse going on, absolutely.

They should go all over it. But The point is Industrialized nations are looking at a huge labor shortage. They had less people to work, more people retiring, aging out in Japan, aging out throughout all of Europe, plus, they don't work hard. And now you have a situation where people are pouring into a little work here because our economy is thriving even though we're buried in debt.

So Tony Gonzalez waited. You know, he's the veteran who has a district that has a larger. Exposure to the border than any other in the country in Texas, CUP 47. I think, in his experience and in mine, what has happened is if you say I'm only going to enforce these laws and not the others, what's going to happen is these criminal elements are going to exploit that, whether it's single adult males, whether it's children, whether it's families, they will exploit our policies.

So I think what they're trying to do is they're trying to say, we're going to treat everyone the same and we're going to start enforcing laws. I think that's a good start. We've got to surge immigration judges to the border, get cases heard in days, not years. You've said that for a long time. That hasn't happened.

That works. I think that works under every administration. I hope the incoming administration uses that advice and surges immigration judges so people get their day in court. It would be interesting, and I know what she says. They always talk about it.

But here's the thing. When you get people to the border, they want to just turn people back in Mexico and then get their names and then call them when they're ready. Mexico's got to allow for that. And if not, the President's got to go in there. He doesn't really know this new leader of Mexico, and he's got to go cut the deal to make it happen.

But that's going to happen almost immediately. Blair, listening in Jacksonville, Florida. Hey, Blair. Yes, sir. How you doing?

What's on your mind? Oh good. Hey, Just real quick comment on the immigration stuff, these boys coming across the border, Mexicans, Guatemalans, any anybody that's coming across the border that wants to be here to work. It's because our young people, I've got a son and a daughter, they work, they do what I need them to do, but we're not hungry in this country anymore. No he the one guy said, hey, we're not getting these people to come to work because we don't want to take they're not taking American jobs.

They're not. We're too lazy to get out in the field. The first time that Florida sun hits somebody's back when they're peeling potatoes, no way. They're not going to do it. Yeah, I mean look in the mirror.

That's all we have to do is look in the mirror. No, I hear you, and I don't think these farmers are not telling the truth. I'm sure they don't get up every day and think, how can I break the law? They think to themselves, how do I make a profit? How do I make my farm work?

And also, the Midwest, the breadbasket, Feeds the world. And in California, I think 30% of all of our fruits and vegetables come from California. Stuart, listening in Oregon. Hey, Stuart. Uh yes, uh I my Ideas more on the immigrants that are staying in these motel rooms at $500 a night.

They're not the ones picking. I hear you.

Yeah, that's costing a ton of money. That's how we, instead of doing that, we use that money to give to ICE to go round up the criminals. Thanks, Stuart. Appreciate it. When we come back, we'll have more.

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What is hopeful, at least, about RFK's message is that he's spiritually connected in nature. He has spent his life litigating against environmental devastation. He's cares.

Well, he's a hunter. I No. Almost no people who are more spiritually attuned to animals than people who are hunters because they study them, they think about them. He's sued Monsanto, he's sued GE for PCBs and water. He started the Waterkeepers Alliance.

He is he hikes all the time. We see it on Instagram. He speaks to Ravens, you know. It's so this is not. I mean he he like he has a connection with them.

And I'm not trying to vouch here.

So give him a little advice. Just like, not tell us everything. Not tell us. You know, like we would be a lot. I didn't mean to know about the worm and the brain.

No. But the broader point is that I think a deeper conversation about the spiritual connection between humans and the earth and some compassion for our bodies and how they are being destroyed by the modern world is a conversation we need to be having. And that is Casey Mean's been a guest on our show.

So she's just explaining that it doesn't matter who I voted for, RFK would work because he gets the big picture. But the whole talking of ravens, killing a bear, dropping in Central Park, having a brain worm, things to that nature don't work to his credibility. It lets people go off. And by the way, Bill Maher was not in taking easy shots at RFK. He wasn't necessarily against it.

This is what Bill Maher said. He said, I wanted two things. He said, I care about the environment. And I forgot what the other thing he cares about. I think world peace or something.

And he goes, I lost on both. He goes, I lost on both counts because basically the left is just unelectable and so unlikable because of the arrogance in which they conduct themselves. And that includes the celebrities that we see talking so much. Here's a little more from Casey Means. First off, here's RFK.

Here's Bill Maher in RFK. Touch 29. If he had said, like, I'm going to ban vaccines, I would be very against it. But he said just the other day, he said, no, choice. If you want them, you have them.

It's not going to be mandated. That's, I think, what a lot of people object to do before. I mean, I've said it many times. There are some pathogens that if they were going around, I would fight you for the vaccine. Right.

And there are others that, you know, I just didn't want, like the one we just had. So that was, by the way, and as Dr. Burke said, he said, we lost a lot of trust. I'm just paraphrasing because we said the vaccine could do more than it can do. Remember, if you get the vaccine, you can't get the virus.

If you get the vaccine, it doesn't matter. You can go anywhere you want. Then, after a while, I was like, no, not until everybody gets the vaccine. And then you can still get it, just with the symptoms, it wouldn't be as bad if you had the vaccine already.

Well, how do we know about that? Kept changing your answer. I don't want to go through that again. But among his critics, Dr. Ja, remember, he worked for the Biden administration.

He says, I worry about going backwards just at a time when we have made so much progress in American medicine. This with RFK. Dr. Paul Offutt, a vaccine specialist in Philadelphia. The notion that a science denialist would head an agency that is built on science is frightening.

He's not a science dynologist, but don't let that slow you down. And Dr. Richard Besser, we have sound from, says, I think it would be extremely dangerous to have RFK Jr. as the Secretary of Health. I think he's got a lot better chance.

Than Gates. I don't think there's any doubt about it. Because I think he's got the answers. Gates might have the answers, but he's got to go prove himself and say, look, the old show the show the show boat that you saw on Capitol Hill blowing things up. Acting like an outlier.

I won't be like that at the Department of Justice. This is my view. He's got to change his image. And if he's close. Trump has so much is so popular right now, people won't just go out of his way.

to blow him up. Sean, listen to Senator Mark Wayne Mullen. This is what he said in October about. Yeah. Uh about Congressman Gates, cut three.

He was accused of sleeping with an underage girl. And there's a reason why no one in the conference came and defended him, because we had all seen the videos he was showing on the house floor that all of us had walked away of the girls that he had slept with. He'd brag about how he would crush ED medicine and chase it with an energy drink so he could go all night. I mean, I need to know that. Talk about telling too much.

But so a lot of people are critical. But now, Senator Moen's walking back. I'm going to listen. He said that Pete Hexis is a yes unless I find out something else. He says Gates is a no unless I find out something else.

Karl Rove, of course, a lot of people don't like Karl Rove who are Trumpers, but I think he goes with the facts, cut five. The guy has never been a practicing attorney with a steady practice. He's never prosecuted. He's never managed or run a law firm. And he's going to run the largest law firm in the world?

I don't think so.

So I think what this ultimately is, he's counting on being turned down with the idea that he then runs for governor or senator in 2026, saying, I was a victim of the deep state, and rallies the MAGA base in order to try and get there.

Well, it depends. That's not a bad strategy, but in the meantime, Governor DeSantis is going to fill Marco Rubio's seat with someone. If it's Larry Trump, that's not going to be open. I don't know. I mean, who could he put in there that isn't interested in running for reelection?

That's hard to say. I mean anyone who who puts in Unless they're in their late seventies. I think they're running for elections. I don't know if that's going to work. You could try to run for governor.

Byron Donalds would beat him pretty uh handily, I believe. Hey, make sure you follow me. I'll be at Brian Kilmey. Go to BrianKilme.com. Find out how to get tickets to Florida Theater in Jacksonville, Florida for History, Liberty, and Laughs.

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