Let's bring in Amy Sikma.
She's a campaign reporter for The New York Post, focusing on Wisconsin. Amy, welcome. Hey, thanks for having me on. Great to be here.
All right. So Amy, what are people in Wisconsin? What's going to be the challenge for Republicans in Wisconsin?
I see by the latest CBS poll, it's a dead heat. Oh, it is. And I think the big challenge is going to be that we are, we're dealing with abortion issues. That's a big point for the Democrats here. And for the Republicans, it's going to be kind of trying to equal out the enthusiasm. Harris has totally recovered the enthusiasm gap in Wisconsin. We're seeing that on the ground. There, Republicans are being outspent by Democrats right now.
So they really need the, you know, in the next less than 90 days, they've got a lot of work to do on the ground. Republic, where is the Republicans ground game compared to the Democrats in Wisconsin? Well, the Democrats are focusing on the big cities, right? They're in Dane County for Madison. They're in Milwaukee. They're in Eau Claire. They're in Green Bay.
Kenosha Racine. The Republicans are spread out over the whole state because that's their ground game. They're in the rural areas. They're in central Wisconsin.
So we have, so we have Trump Force 47 here. Turning Point Action is on the ground. Americans for Prosperity is on the ground. There's a lot of groups down here. It's just that they are covering the whole state instead of focusing on the main population center. Which, you know, you think you go to Madison, it's going to be mostly Democrats. Do you go in there like Trump has been going in when he was going against Joe Biden, trying to do the best he can in New York and in Philadelphia and in Chicago?
Obviously, went there. I thought it was a bit of a disaster with the with the with the the black journalists, but he's trying to go in there. Do you do you sense that against Kamala Harris? They're they're more apt to go rural. Well, so Vance has been the one since the RNC, Vance has been the one coming to Milwaukee, coming to Wisconsin. So last week he was in Milwaukee, Milwaukee Police Association. So that we came to Kenosha, where we had the Jacob Blake riots back in 2020. So they're they're focusing both. They're still going to the big population centers, but they're focusing on their people in those centers. I think there needs to be a ground game in Dane County.
There is one there. They're trying to balance out the turnout because Dane County has a massive turnout. It's been growing every election.
It's going to grow this year as well. So you're trying to balance that with the rest of the state. So I think that there is, yes, there's plenty of focus in those areas from the Trump campaign, but there is also a lot of focus out state.
So Matt Gorman, he used comms for Tim Scott, thought he was going to be president for a while. And he said that this is the best plan of attack against terrorists, cut 20. Running the playbook against Joe Biden, very different, to say the least, than running against a black woman. And look, the best argument, the best attack against Kamala Harris is not purely personal.
It's not purely policy. It's that she doesn't have politically core principles. She doesn't have, you know, they call her a chameleon. And I think what gave evidence to that and why Republicans are a little bit encouraged by in the last 72 hours is she's taken great pains through anonymous aides to walk back and forth. A lot of her positions from 2020. But then the first thing she puts her name to, it's pretty far left and gotten a lot of criticism, criticism, as you pointed out with Jason Furman, Washington Post, etc.
Right. And that was the Friday speech when she talked about price controls and price gouging and then setting rates and things to that nature. Well, and she's expected so she's going to the FISER form tomorrow, reportedly, and that is where the RNC was held a few weeks ago. So she's kind of had this pattern of copying Trump, you know, the tax per tip policy.
And so she's going back to where he was. She's expected to talk about her policy, you know, kind of remake. I expect the child tax credit to come up tomorrow.
I expect the focus to be very much on suburban women voters and moderates. And yes, the the only way for the Trump campaign to fight back is to talk about policy and the last four years. How has your life been the last four years? Has it been better? How's your bank account? How is your ability to provide for your family? Are you having to work two jobs? You know, that the focus on the policy is definitely the best thing, because you're not going to switch the enthusiastic Harris voters.
You're just not going to get them. So the focus is the independents, the undecided. And we've got a whole bunch of independents on the ballot in Wisconsin. The Democratic the DNC is fighting the Green Party candidate Jill Stein. They're trying to get her off the ballot because she got 30000 votes here in 2016. So they're they're doing the the Democrats are doing an all out strategy on the ground from every facet.
And the Republicans really need to to answer that in Wisconsin. Do you think they'll be successful in keeping Jill Stein off? So their their original camp complaint was was dropped and now they're going in with a legal fight. So Stein's campaign told me last week that they were hiring attorneys. I haven't seen anything else on that.
They may be successful. Hard to tell just yet. So I was talking to Jim Justice on Saturday night, a former Democrat gone Republican, and I'm talking about some of the new new views that Kamala Harris has said, you know, she's going to be tough on the border. She's going to crack down on crime. She's calling up her. She said her her crime credentials. Now she says she's for fracking and she's for for drilling. She's not for getting rid of private insurance. And I'm saying to myself, did she have a revelation or is this just political? Is this a political ploy to get elected? Here's what he said.
Cut 18. For Kamala Harris to think for one second or anybody on this planet to think that the Democrats, the Democrats can rule the day and win. And not only if they win, do the job for all the people in this country. Are you kidding me? Just look around as to what's happening in this modest approach that they have now and this big time flip.
Do you really believe they'll continue that? You'd have to be crazy. So that's sort of the exasperation that Donald Trump expresses like you can't be, you know, when you watch a 30 second ad of her at the border in a jean shirt and you think about this to this miserable record of this administration at the border. I'm wondering how many people in your experience are really that detached from politics to believe what they see.
Well, it's going to depend on where you were to begin with. I mean, when I'm at the Harris rallies in Wisconsin and I'm talking to voters, there's the full gamut. Those who are fully behind her and those who are still coming up, you know, they came to the campaign just to see her or to see Walt and see what they really had to say. The only way really to address that is to just stay focused on the objective facts. And that's what the Republicans really need to be pounding right now is, are you going to believe what they're saying now or are you going to believe the last four years? You know, and that that is an easy message to do. You just have to be consistent and you have to reach those undecided and independents.
And there's not that many left in the middle. But obviously, Harris is very concerned with those, which is why she's, you know, coming out with this new face as far as her policy positions is to try to appeal to the middle to separate herself from Biden, who was who was just obviously tanking their numbers so that she needs separation from him. He's speaking tonight at the DNC.
He's going to crown her. I'm interested to see, you know, how that comes out, you know, because she has been trying to distance herself from him, but she can't do it at the DNC. What's interesting is, is that the bitterness that has to exist that we're hearing from all different corners exists with the Bidens and the Obamas. They don't speak and the Bidens don't speak to hasn't spoken to Nancy Pelosi since Kamala Harris and Biden do speak. But there was never an intention that she would get the nomination to be more of a scrum. But she consolidated, thanks mostly to the endorsement of Joe Biden, creating a little bit of drama there. Michelle Obama not liking the Bidens because of the way they treat Beau's widow. So maybe there's some bitterness with the Bidens that Hillary Clinton got the nod in 2016 and she lost it. This is some of the speculation from insiders. And I'm wondering if it might be picked up in the Biden speech on tonight.
What do you think? I mean, it would certainly be exciting if it was. I think that he has he's probably been pretty much, you know, scared into toeing the line. But who knows that Joe Biden like staying on the script is not exactly his strong point. So it could be pretty exciting. It could be right. He's staying well, he could stay on his script.
It depends. Depends if he can read it. I mean, if he says it out loud and once in a while, you know, they try to keep him on script. We'll see what happens because he'll disappear right after that. And then we'll see how he finishes up the last four months.
And there's always these things that happen called real life, because for the next four months, we've got a lot of volatile situations and something could pop up. And lastly, when it comes to Wisconsin on the Republican side, you got Reince Priebus, who did a brilliant job rehabbing the RNC and getting them ready to take the House and Senate and the White House in 2016. Evidently, he wants to come back and help. What does he know about Wisconsin that you think could be a benefit to the Republicans and to Trump? Well, he's been involved in Wisconsin politics and, you know, college days. And I remember going to an event when I was in college and he was running for office at the time. He came to speak to the college Republicans there. So he has a great deal of experience in history here.
He has the relationship. Obviously, right now, there's there's there needs to be some movement. There needs to be more money in the state. They've moved the Senate race to lean Democrat. So it's not really a focus for flipping the Senate anymore. So I think, yeah, I think if he came back, he would he would know the ground game here.
He would know how to get things started. Like I said, there is a good ground game going on, but also they're being outspent. Right. The real clear average has Harris by one. All these different New York Times has Harris by four insider advantage has had Trump by one. So it's obviously still very much in play. And lastly, on the Eric Hovde situation, do you he's down by about four or five points.
Yeah, anywhere anywhere from four to seven, depending on which poll you're looking at. Yeah. So do you think he feels like he's under financed, correct?
Yeah, he's being majorly outspent. That's for sure. All right. Thanks so much, Amy. Sick me could read her stuff in the New York Post covering Wisconsin for them. Amy, thank you. Thank you. From the Fox News podcast network, I'm Janice Dean, Fox News senior meteorologist. Be sure to subscribe to the Janice Dean podcast at Fox News podcast dot com or wherever you listen to your podcasts. And don't forget to spread the sunshine.
