Alarming: Jordanian nationals tried to breach military base

From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead. Hi, everyone. Brian Kilmead here. Thanks so much for listening.

Admiral James Tervitis is going to be with us at some point. Lieutenant Colonel Alan West from Texas, a lot to discuss. First off, stunning news. Scotty Scheffler, best golfer in the world right now at the PGA Championship, one of the four majors arrested. Uh evidently for hitting a cop.

He's in prison garb, believe it or not, where they detained him. I'm not sure if they're going to let him go or not. You hit a cop, they are going to let him go? All right, so yeah, I'll find out more details. But usually, you know, if you get arrested, evidently he was driving across, he was driving around an accident.

He didn't want to be detained. And when he got out of the car, there was some type of confrontation. We'll see what the real story is. Bottom line is, he's in real trouble. Let's see if he can concentrate on golf now.

Let's get to the big three.

Now with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. Yes, Giff, absolutely. It does raise concerns just whenever there's a large increase in numbers concerned with who these individuals are and what they're doing. Yeah, that was the ICE deputy director talking about the unprecedented number of Chinese nationals coming across the broken border, alarming all, even Dems.

The difference is why the GOP is worried about security, election integrity, Dems, American anger of their broken border, which they are responsible for, and the electoral fate. Number two. We have long said that the stock market is not the economy, and we have said that, to your point, President Biden's economic plan is working, it's growing the middle class. KJP, a waste of time as a press secretary, talking about the rise of the stock market, which is good news, except for the President of the United States never cared about the stock market before. 2024, the Biden camp's massive push for young and minority votes.

Combine that with the Hail Mary debate offer, and I see nothing but panic as Trump heads to deep blue Minnesota in the hopes of flipping it along with Nevada and Virginia. We're going to look at that race and others. Number When people kept on saying, look, he's been coached, he's been prepped, I never quite believed that. I certainly believe that he could retain his composure because that's what everyone's telling him to do. But he's a pathological liar.

And we're seeing it again and again. Jonathan Turley has been uncompromising in that assessment. Trump trial now in the backstretch. And the defense had its best day yet on Thursday. What's left, and why every clear-thinking American should be offended that this case is actually even being tried?

Because they still can't tell you exactly what he did wrong and what they're pushing for, which is absolutely insane. Because they're trying to say, you know, you can have an NDA, that's fine. You can be worried about your personal life and try to keep a story down. That's okay. Michael Cohen never wanted a job at the White House.

We know that's not true. We have multiple witnesses said so. Has a personal vendetta against the president? Of course that's true. Why do we know that?

He's got a TikTok account where he's live streaming. He's got podcasts when he said it. He's got quotes that he didn't verify. But I think what's also important is what took place yesterday. This guy says one of the key interactions that I had with the president through Keith Schiller, his former bodyman, was.

On such and such date, where I called to the to the to get a hold of the president and I left a message, Keith Schiller got back to me, and it was about Stormy Daniels. No it wasn't. Upon further review, the text message was about a 14-year-old who was harassing him, and he's trying to get the Secret Service to get the 14-year-old to stop.

So that was the moment where all of a sudden he realized what I've been saying all along was not true. And when I'm talking about that, I'm talking about Michael Cohen, which makes bracks up what Robert Costello said. When he was advising Michael Cohen, he said, if you want to get out of this, say everything you know about Trump. What did he do wrong? He said, did nothing wrong.

What do you mean? At some point, he did something wrong. If you give up, if you want a deal and stay out of prison, this is what you got to do. He goes, He's done nothing wrong. Stormy Daniels is my decision.

So why Robert Costello was not on the witness list? And he might be, I don't know. And what is Robert Costello? Prosecutor with a former prosecutor of the Southern District of New York, a no-nonsense guy, also from New York.

So you You have that background. You have Michael Cohen as the key prosecution witness. You have a crime that has yet to be defined. You have a judge that is clearly compromised. Here is Robert Costello cut three.

One of the things I found so interesting about what you just said, amongst many, is that the grand jury didn't get to hear some of the things that you thought they should hear. For all of us listening to you now, it's like, wow, the jury should probably hear this. And I wonder, have you been subpoenaed by the defense? Do you think you will be called to testify in New York at this trial? I have not been subpoenaed.

Whether I will be called to testify hasn't been decided yet. It probably depends a lot on what's going to happen today in court and then what would happen on redirect by the district attorney's office. I mean, if I were in Todd Blanche's shoes, that's the analysis I would make. If you were in Todd Blanche's shoes, would you call me to testify? Yeah.

Yes, because I'm a reliable person. And he might be. And he's going to be joining us in about two hours, depending on when you're listening to the show. Admiral James David is standing by, 16th Supreme Ally Commander at NATO, currently a member of the Carlisle Group and author of several bestsellers, including 2054, a novel of the next world war. Admiral, first off, one of the things that Trump said when he got out, he said, I'm really concerned about what happened earlier.

And I'm thinking to myself, what happened earlier? And he saw what we all saw: we saw Vladimir Putin arrive in China and Beijing and get the red carpet tour and enhance the relationship between these two evil powers. How concerned are you? I am deeply concerned. And what is happening here is these two malevolent regimes are drawing closer and closer together.

Look around the world, Brian. They're operating together, not just in the North Pacific with their naval vessels. They come together and operate in the Baltic Sea, in the heart of Europe. They are both supporting Putin's war effort in Ukraine. China is the lifeline that is keeping the Russian economy going, in effect.

And even in Asia, you see Vladimir Putin as a Pacific power putting pressure on Japan, our treaty ally, with whom they have significant territorial disputes.

So, all around the world, these two regimes are drawing closer and closer together. The only good news in this that I can see is that ultimately Putin is going to end up a very junior partner in this enterprise. But that's cold comfort when you see two huge powers that have very complementary economies. China is a manufacturing. services Economy, Russia's hydrocarbon natural resources, putting together, that's dangerous Will Robinson for the West.

Absolutely, but now you have a situation. We told China not to get involved, and they are. Not only are they buying cheap oil, they're talking about redirecting the pipeline that was going to Europe to them. I'm not sure they're going to sign off on that, but the leverage we have is the economic leverage. They need to sell to the West.

And I think Europe understands that we're not just warning them because we're alarmists. They see the threat. Will they unify and say shutting off China goods to the West unless we see a change of behavior? We have to keep the pressure on. And you know what?

This is very similar to, Brian? You remember you and I were talking about this five years ago. It was the growing European dependence on Russian oil and gas, Nord Stream I pipeline, Nord Stream II pipeline. Again and again, we here in the United States said, don't do that. And by the way, we can supply Europe's energy needs.

We're the largest energy exporter in the world. We can send them liquefied natural gas till the cows come home.

So Europe has options. We have to put pressure on them to stand up to China. I think in the end they will because they now see that China is financing Russia and Russia is a dagger pointed at the heart of Europe. No doubt about it. And we understand too, they're making a major move in Ukraine.

to go through Kharkiv, the second biggest city, because they know the sixty-five billion dollars worth of weapons is getting there, and we have limited the use of our weapons. We told Ukraine, you better not hit Russia proper. I don't want you attacking inside Russia. That's not helpful. 100% agree.

It's time to take the gloves off. The administration has been too timid with moving lethal weapons forward. We had long delays getting them the basic equipment, including M1A1 Abrams tanks. We took a long time to finally get these F-16s in the field. We dithered about cluster weapons for a long period of time, and these restrictions are part of that.

We need to take the gloves off with Putin. We need to do it quick because if Kharkiv falls and that Ukrainian line of defense opens, guess what's next? It's Kyiv. And that is going to be a real defeat, not just for the Ukrainians, but for us. For NATO in the West.

Of course, even though they predicted it would fall in two or three days, and now we're realizing that we allowed these weapons. The weapon shipments to Wayne, and that's what got us in this place in the beginning with. But they do have a lot more men. They just called up another 100,000 if we were to believe them. But the other thing they have a problem with is they're not learning to fight.

Reportedly, from the battlefield, it's not like they're better fighters, but technologically, they're doing a good job stopping our drones, evidently, from flying, jamming them. Yeah, the enemy gets a vote in war, meaning no matter how bad your opponent is at the beginning of a fight, as time goes by, they will learn, they will adapt. And Russia, like any other opponent, has adapted against some of the things that stopped them cold two years ago. Having said that, two things make me heartened at the moment. One is the sixty plus billion dollars of U.

S. military equipment, which is headed there now. And by the way, Brian, how often do we get to say this in America today? The Congress did a good job ultimately in that 75% of the House and 75% of the Senate voted to get that weapon shot. Shipment there.

Also, the Europeans have given $80 billion. You put that together. The question now is not capacity, it's time. And so we've got the support now. The second thing that it does give me hope is you mentioned it.

In the end, our technology is much better for this battlefield. And Russia can throw troops at the front line, and we will kill them with drones, with long-range strikes. We just have to get those weapons in the hands of the Ukrainians. Talking Maos Javidas, his book is out 2054, but a couple of things. Number one is, I'm wondering why we can't repurpose some of the NATO forces, some of those German leopard tanks, and do because they're right there.

It's just a few miles. They're just sitting in garages.

So let's get them out there quick. How long is it going to take to get these weapons into the field? And number three is. Any good candidate for president has Has to talk about expanding the military industrial base and not that whole conspiracy theory about Eisenhower and that look out for that. That is not our problem now.

We have to be able to make more weapons, get the defense strong, to send a message to the rest of the world. We got your back into our enemies. Don't try it. But through action, not words. And stopping the new leases on natural gas is foolhardy and detrimental to our national security.

Point one, I agree. We have to continue to be a preeminent energy exporter. To do that, we have to drill more, we have to obtain more, we have to build better pipelines, we have to build LNG. That is part of our economic power. Point two, the question you raised.

We have got to build our own defense industrial base. And that's the good news about this sixty billion that is headed to Ukraine. The money isn't going to Ukraine. The money is coming here to buy the weapon systems from our superb manufacturers.

So that creates jobs in America. It strengthens our industrial base. And point three, it's an alliance. And so yes, we need to put continued pressure, particularly on Germany, France are the two big powerhouses that have real capacity who could throw it at the battlefield. I want to give a shout out to Poland and the United Kingdom.

Both of them have been magnificent.

Now we need Germany and France, the two second and third largest economies in Europe, to step up and be part of this.

Okay, I hear you. Real quick, I saw today that one of the plans for Israel is to have a corridor right through the middle of Gaza and no longer let them be their own defense force because we can't trust them after what happened on October 7th.

So I'm just wondering from your perspective: a corridor up the middle of Gaza, would you do the same thing? Does that sound plausible? It absolutely does. The first thing I'd do, which you and I have talked about, I would destroy the tunnel complex, 400 miles of tunnels underneath this tiny little Gaza Strip. That's where Hamas trained, organized, equipped, and directed, launched, and now hides.

They've got to destroy those tunnels. Job two is to create a workable security regime. I think a corridor makes sense. Another thing that would make sense is bringing in an Arab peacekeeping force, which could be from Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and the Gulf states. I think those are part of the path forward here.

Hey, last thought, and it's a good thing. Today, the U.S. pier, which we built, it's a maritime miracle, Brian. We've built a deep water offshore pier. We're now offloading 150 to 200 truckloads of aid.

That's the U.S. military doing what it does best. And I am very proud of those young Americans. And by the way, I'd say this to the protesters on college campuses. If you want to do something for the people of Gaza, be like the people in the military, the young men and women in the military who built this amazing pier, and all the aid is going to go into Gaza overall.

Yeah, go raise money for aid. That's repository. Or you could just sit in a tent by yourself in the middle of campus and fail out of school. It's either one. Yeah, just it's a flip of a coin.

It's unbelievable. Admiral. Unbelievable.

So, hey, I'm going to be out by you on Memorial Day. I hope we can catch up. That's a deal. That's a promise. All right, soon, Brian.

Admiral James Stavridis. I'm going to be in the WOKV land over in Jacksonville.

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We're here early in the morning and we leave. In the evening, now the judge wants to extend the time periods.

so that we can get this thing done fast before the election. It's terrible. Nobody's ever seen anything like it. That includes the other cases too, including the civil cases. And they all come out indirectly or directly.

They come out of the White House and the DOJ. And by the way, that's the former president of the United States, frustrated but happy yesterday. He has to be happy. Cohen did not look good on the standby almost all accounts. I'm watching even other channels, and I see people reluctantly saying, Can you rehab Michael Cohen?

And it was so smart of defense to go through Thursday.

So everybody in the jury thinks about that and how he screwed up and mischaracterized attacks about Stormy Daniels that had nothing to do with Stormy Daniels.

Now, we're not in there. They roll back the tape, but essentially he was going talking to Keith Schiller, the bodyman of Donald Trump, asking for giving the latest news on Stormy Daniels, and it turns out he wasn't doing that at all. He said, well, I was doing both. No, you weren't. You weren't doing both.

They also just played some clips of him losing his mind, acting irrationally on TikTok and on his podcast. They tried to get him to snap. I think, too, Cohen did not snap, even though it must have been heartening to know that Rosie O'Donnell loves him and told him to hang in there.

So when you're trying to win over Rosie O'Donnell and her three fans, I know you're really barkbarking. barking up the right tree. I I'm amazed. Eighteen days in. 19 witnesses, four weeks.

Still, they can't tie him to a crime. And the way I understand it, they're going to look to get to closing arguments by Tuesday. And it brings up this question. It all comes to the instructions to the jury. Dow line if there's even a shadow of a doubt.

of conviction, you must acquit. Because there's too much at stake. This thing should not even be tried. I was at an event last night in Nassau County, talked to two or three different lawyers. I have no idea what they're voting for, but they were embarrassed for the law profession.

Embarrassed. A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. I'm sure that it was kept hidden because it represents a massive. Failure by this administration to secure our immigration system.

No matter what facts ultimately emerge, Laura, what we know already is more than alarming enough. You have two non-citizen Jordanian nationals, and to use I speak, they're amenable to removal. That means they are people with either limited or no status here at all. That their fundamental citizenship status is that they are Jordanian, not American, who managed to drive a truck into a secure facility in Quantico.

So, how unbelievable is that? And we had to go discover it and dig it out and try to get confirmation on it. We're used to the war on terror. We know about the challenges. You're trying to blow up a bridge.

You're trying to blow up New York City. We know about these plans and plots, and we took great pride in unwinding them and describing them and making adjustments because of them. But now we find out there's been some breaches on bases, these Jordanians. They tried to get through. They were told to pull over.

Instead of pulling over, they kept going straight. Then they popped up and hit some of those blockades and were able to stop them, pull them over, and arrest them. We don't know their status. We don't know what they were up to. We don't know what they said during interrogation.

Is that okay? Lieutenant Colonel Alan West spent decades in uniform, now in Texas. He is the executive director of the American Constitutional Rights Union. Lieutenant Colonel, welcome back. You concerned about this story?

I'm beyond concern because we have an administration that has aided and abetted this to happen. And that's going to be one of the consequences or ramifications of a wide open border. Sure, you're going to catch one or two here or there, but how many hundreds or even thousands have gotten through in that border? And especially our big concern here in Texas is out in West Texas in the Big Bend Mountain areas, which no one wants to cover or talk about. That's where your really bad elements are coming across that very treacherous terrain.

And they're using carpeted shoes, not so they can be tracked.

So we're going backwards in the quote-unquote war on terror because, once again, we are voluntarily, willfully, and intentionally exposing ourselves to terrorist elements.

So, we also asked through a Freedom of Information Act, can you tell us the nationalities of these men on the terror watch list? And they said no. The government just said no to Bill Malusion. We're not telling you. The privacy of the individuals in the records you have requested outweigh my minimal public interest in disclosing that information.

Really? The privacy of illegal immigrants on the terror watch list is more important than the American public knowing who's trying to get in here? Yeah, this is amazing. And maybe, you know, Mayor Eric up there in New York would hire them to be lifeguards as well. But this is very, you know, all humor aside, this is very troubling.

Because first of all, I'm thinking about what happened at the Beirut Barracks bombing in 1983 when the guards were not properly armed and they allowed a truck bomb to drive in and kill 234 Marines. You know, why were these individuals able to continue on and be stopped at the barricades?

Someone should have engaged them.

Someone should have been returning fire against this truck, which disavowed the orders to stop and to be searched.

So, you know, it wasn't too long ago we had Major Nadal Hassan, and we know what he did on Fort Hood, Texas, just down the road from where I am here. He was an American, too. He decided, I'd rather be a jihadist, and he started killing people.

So Just so you know, I want to bring you to more of the border discussion in Congress yesterday. We have 24 to 28,000 illegals from China that have come here. We don't know why. We don't know what they're saying during interrogation.

So we're trying to get to the bottom of this. But listen to how this Democrat characterizes the Republicans' push to find out why these Chinese nationals are coming here. Cut 21. We're here today because Republicans are demagoguing and exploiting the xenophobic and white supremacist ideologies that are fueling the immigration debate. I mean, she should be just disqualified.

I mean, that's what New York gets. That's what we get when New York sends a representative to Congress. Do you believe this?

Well, yeah, because look, you're talking about a Democrat Party, which is really progressive, socialists, Marxists, leftists, whatever. They're more so aligned with Islamic jihadists. They're allowing these people to go out and have these pro-Hamas demonstrations. They're more so aligned with illegal immigrants and coming to this country. They believe that they should have more rights, freedoms, and liberties and protections than everyday American citizens.

But nobody is leaving China. No single military-aged male is leaving China with a suitcase of hundreds of thousands of dollars, and they're coming to the United States of America seeking asylum. This is absurd. And if she does not believe that we need to look into why our number one geopolitical foe, and also Venezuela, we are getting a lot of Venezuelans here who are single military-aged males. What is going on?

And if you want to deflect this to some silly xenophobia excuse, that just shows that the Democrats are not serious about protecting our Republic. I want you to hear the Deputy Vice Director Patrick Leichnatner from Washington yesterday. He was asked that question. He took it more seriously. Should we be concerned?

Cut 19? Yes, Giff, absolutely. It does raise concerns. Whenever there is a large increase in numbers concerned with who these individuals are and what they are doing, we are working closely with the interagency and looking into this, not only with the department, but also the greater interagency. And as a law enforcement officer of national security, public safety, I'm always concerned when there's outliers in the data.

It does seem like there's an outlier here, so we're looking into that. You went further, CUD20. We're working very closely with as a as a whole of government, basically. The United States is working closely with our Chinese counterparts to try and move our cooperation on removals along. We are doing everything we can to make this more standardized and institutionalized so that this is kind of a more repetitive process, so we can normalize those relations.

And we're doing that You know, as hard as we can. You know, it's not always easy, but we're trying and we're working well and sitting at the table with our Chinese partners to try and move that along. Evidently, we're convincing China to take their people back. Right now, they're not.

So they stay. You know, these are not our partners. This is a geopolitical foe. Just the same as we should be concerned about these Chinese police stations. Look, I heard a lot of words there from that gentleman, but where are the actions?

Why isn't ICE out there deporting these individuals? You know why. You know why. They're not getting support. They're not allowed.

They're depleted in numbers and they're not supported. That's my point.

So, what this gentleman was saying was just a bunch of rhetoric because this administration has aligned itself, and this is one of their policy agendas: open borders. And they don't care about the ramifications and consequences.

So, you know, he can say a lot of things there on the testimony, but I'm looking at the actions, I'm looking at what is happening on the ground, and nobody is doing anything. This Biden administration is not stepped up at all. Can you imagine what the next four years are going to be like when they don't have the threat of an election coming up? How bad they would be, and what this country is going to look like if they win. I want to bring you to an even time you get up in the morning and miss Congress.

I want you to play this tape. This is AOC and Jasmine Rockets, and as well as Marjorie Taylor Greene, an unserious lawmaker in every respect. But she brought up this, and what she's going to bring up is Justin Judge Murshan's daughter is a big-time Democratic consultant, worked with Adam Schiff, now making tens of thousands of dollars, working with Dan Goldman, who, by the way, is working with Michael Cohen to make him a Better witness. It's insane how compromised this judge is.

So instead of talking about, though, holding in contempt the Attorney General for ignoring the request to get the Robert Hurd tapes out, Robert Hurd did the investigation on Joe Biden that was so horrendous. Robert Hurst says he's guilty of taking documents, but he's old, forgetful, and will be sentimentally win over juries, so we're not going to charge him.

So we want to hear these tapes to find out what Robert Hur was about. And the AG is saying no.

So that's now I brought you up to date.

Now let me tell you what happened. Cut 17. I'd like to know if any of the Democrats on this committee are employing Judge Mershon's daughter. But that has to do with Mary Garland. Do you know what we're here for?

I think your fake eyelashes are messing up. No, ain't nothing. That's beneath even more. That is absolutely unacceptable. How dare you express the physical appearance of another person?

Are your feelings hurt? Whoa, girl, baby girl. Oh, really? Don't even play, baby girl. We are going to.

Do you believe this?

You know, the the level of Uh Sophomore behavior, imbecilic actions, immaturity. You know, this has to be troubling to the American people. These are folks that, you know, quote unquote, we have elected to go be our representatives. But it has become more so of a daily soap opera. And that the entire time, guess what we have?

We have Jordanians that are getting on trucks and driving on to our military installations. And you got a stupid, uh, ridiculous courtroom drama taking place on charges that never should have been brought up to the smallest, to the smallest lawmaker, to the former president of the United States. Every day, they're wasting our time, their money, and our attention from real issues. And the people that are happiest are China and Russia. But let's just finish this off.

It gets worse. James Comer doesn't know what the hell is going on. He's chairman of a committee that he thought we'd be talking about substance. He had no idea what this was devolving into.

So they take a break and they come back, and they want those eyelash comments struck from the record. She basically says, I'll strike it from the record, but I'm not going to apologize. I know. Children, now you're up to date. This is Crockett and Comer and Luna.

Listen, cut eighteen. Mr. Chair, point of order. Ms. Crockett, I'm just curious, just to better understand your ruling, if someone on this committee then starts talking about somebody's bleach-blonde, bad-built, butch body, that would not be engaging in personalities, correct?

A what now? Chairman, I make a motion to strike those words. I don't think that's a quality of strike those words. We're not going to do this. Look, you guys earlier literally just said that.

You just voted to do this. You never voted to order. I'm trying to get clarification. Look at calm down. Calm down.

No, no, no, no, because this is what you all do. I'm trying to get clarification. You're not ready. I can't hear you with your yelling. I don't want to.

Calm down. No. Please come. Don't kill me to. Calm down.

Long time. Because y'all talk on and then you get out of control. if I come and talk about her y'all gonna have a chairman, Mr. I told you it got worse. Yeah, and Jasmine Crockett is a congressional representative from right here in Dallas County.

She's the same person that said that black people should not pay taxes as part of reparations for slavery. She's not a serious actor, but again, the fact that someone voted her to be there in Congress, I think that's more of a reflection on the electorate. But, you know, coming back to the original intent for them being there, you know, based upon what Robert Hurst says, if I'm 79 or 80 years old, Brian, and I go out and shoot someone, should I not be charged because maybe I'm too old and people would be sympathetic to me? Yeah, I mean, either you commit a crime or you don't. If you commit a crime, there are consequences and ramifications.

You should be charged with that crime.

So this whole thing is a fiasco of our justice system. All right. Colonel, I'm sorry to put you through that. I seem like I aggravated you. Just hearing that, I know it's crazy.

Colonel West. Let me back to combat. There's more order in that. Lieutenant Colonel Allen West, have a great weekend. Thank you.

Back in a moment. God bless. Yeah, just around the corner the latest on Scottie Scheffler and his arrest. Coming to you on a need-to-know basis, because Mandy you need to know, it's Brian Kilmead. A radio show like no other.

It's Brian Killmade.

Well, Scotty Scheffler ended Thursday within striking distance of the lead in the hopes of winning his first PGA championship. He's the best golfer and hottest golfer in the world, but he was arrested and jailed, and now he's out and going to be playing and teeing off on On cut day, and obviously, he's going to make the cut, but will he end up in jail? Scheffler was arrested and charged after he allegedly failed to follow police orders as he was about to enter Valhalla Golf Course. There was a big accident.

Somebody died. He drove around. He tried to drive around the accident.

Well, Jeff Darlington of ESPN was there, saw the whole thing, and evidently they said he assaulted a police officer. Here's Jeff Darlington and what he saw. There was a bus that did not have a driver in it that was still sitting outside of the main gate of Valhalla Golf Club. Police were trying to figure out how to get that bus moved. Scotty Scheffler was in a vehicle two behind that bus.

Scheffler attempted to drive his car down a road that was jammed with vehicles onto the side medium. Plenty of space on that median where a shuffler could move his car around toward the entrance. A police officer in a yellow jacket, like those ones you're seeing there, approached Scheffler's car, told him to stop. Scheffler continued to drive his vehicle, at which point the officer attached himself to Scheffler's car. Scheffler's vehicle then drove another 15 to 20 yards.

making the left into Valhalla Golf Club before coming to a stop. At that point, The officer took his Flashlight and start to bang on Scheffler's car, telling him to open the window or open the door to get out of the vehicle. Wow.

So, number one, he drives around the accident, never good. Probably tries to keep going. How you could not, you know, if there's somebody on your car. And you keep driving, that's a little nuts. Let's hear more.

Scheffler lowered the window. The officer then ripped the door open. Pulled Scheffler out by the arm, pushed him up against the vehicle, placed him in handcuffs. At that point, I approached Scottie Scheffler and the officers. Scheffler turned at me and said, Can you help me?

The officers then confronted me, told me to step back. I informed them that I was a member of the media. At which point, one officer told me, there's nothing you can do. He's going to jail. Another officer then approached me shortly after with a pad in his hand and said to me, could you please tell us the name of the person that we arrested?

So they did not seem to know that it was Scotty Scheffler, the number one golfer in the world, for whatever that's worth and however that factors into all. They also, when they place him in the back of that vehicle, they put him in handcuffs. They then, at one point, remove the handcuffs, at which point it felt like the situation was becoming diffused. They allowed him to adjust his wrists before then placing the handcuffs back on him. Shuffler attempted to get the attention of the officer.

who did put him in the handcuffs originally and pulled him from the vehicle to tell him that he did not know he was a police officer. The police officer did not respond. to Schuffler's attempts to explain himself in the situation. I don't know what Jeff Darlington would have just said that Scotty Schuffle, the number one tennis, the number one golfer in the world right now. I mean, just to explain it, he was probably just trying to go to the golf course.

So I'm pretty sure why he wouldn't say that. That's weird. But I'm not saying he should get special treatment, but they would explain why he's in a massive rush to get there, that he doesn't have any illegal. Doesn't isn't looking to do something unsavory for it.

So it's a huge problem. And the picture you have is him in a jumpsuit.

So they put him in jail. They gave him his searches, took his clothes. Yeah, he got the mug shot. Got the mug shot, but in the prison garb. I mean, a lot of times murderers aren't in prison carb yet.

So like, so they put him in there and then they let him out. Straight to go. And he's expected, yeah, to see off at his tea time later. This is the good thing about Scottie Scheffler. And I'm not the biggest golf guy in the world, but the whole thing is, they say, Why are you so successful?

He goes, Because I am so into my religion and I'm so with my values, and nobody cares in my life if I win a tournament or not. And that allows him, he says, is the key to his success. He puts no pressure on himself.

So you wonder that's this is almost the opposite. Um This is like something that not to put anybody down, but Tony Stewart, a NASCAR driver, he was the volatile one who always had to win, he always had temper, he always had those type of guys. The John McEnrose of the world, the Charles Barkley, opinionated, loud, aggressive guys. This guy is just the opposite. But you could see if you didn't realize the guy in the yellow was a cop, which I don't see how you don't realize that.

But, like, how you're thinking, I just need to get in, giant miscommunication. But I mean, all of it's. Unfortunate.

However, how he plays today will be a true test of how well he could play the game mentally. Yeah, can you imagine that?

Now more people are going to be watching. It's going to help ratings, but.

So, is this all plant? They did this on purpose for ratings.

Okay, conspiracy theorists. Aaron Rodgers is now producing this show. I had no idea.

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It's Brian Killmead. All right, well, welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Killmead Show. Glad you're here. This hour, we're going to be joined by Josh Crash Hour. We're going to go inside the numbers and what Joe Biden's up to today.

Very significant. Kaylee McGee White is also standing by, a senior fellow at the Independent Women's Forum. And again, we're going to talk about tactics and techniques as President Trump goes to Minnesota. And President Biden doesn't.

So, before we get to these great guests, and by the way, Kaylee's going to be on Skype.

So, if you want to watch the show, you can go see it. If you go to Fox News Radio, you click on watch, right? And then you swipe over, you get to see. What we're doing, or Fox Nation all the time.

So let's get to the big three.

Now with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. Yes, Giff, absolutely. It does raise concerns just whenever there's a large increase in numbers concerned with who these individuals are and what they're doing. That is The ICE director talking about broken border, alarming all, even Dems.

The difference is not the tarot watch list, not the gotaways of 600,000. They're worried about the election. The GOP is worried about security, election integrity. The Dems get angry that they're about to lose on this issue, and they're trying to quickly get tough. I don't like it.

Number two. We have long said that the stock market is not the economy, and we have said that to your point. President Biden's economic plan is working, it's growing the middle class. Really? 2024 and the Biden camp's massive push for young and minority voters combine that with the Hail Mary debate offer and I see nothing but panic as Trump heads to deep blue Minnesota in the host of flipping it along with Nevada and Virginia where Joe Biden's today says a lot.

Number When people kept on saying, look, he's been coached, he's been prepped, I never quite believed that. I certainly believed that he could retain his composure because that's what everyone's telling him to do. But he's a pathological liar. That is Jonathan Turley. He's been steadfast in assessing that, especially after hearing and reading the transcript of Michael Cohen on the stand.

Trump trial now in the backstretch, and the defense had its best day yet. What's left and why every clear thinking American should be offended that this case is actually being tried? Kaylee McGee-White joins us now. Kayleigh, great to see you. Great to see you too.

All right, first off, as we get to day nineteen, nineteen eighteen days, nineteen different witnesses, where's this trial at from your reporting?

Well, it's essentially dead in the water now. Bragg's team came out this week and admitted that they're going to end the witness testimony with Michael Cohen, who essentially was proved to have perjured himself under oath once again during this trial, during cross-examination. And again, Bragg still has not defined what the second crime that makes this a felony is. He has not been able to prove what that crime is. He hasn't been able to do so with Cohen's testimony.

He certainly wasn't able to do so with Stormy Daniels' testimony.

So there's nowhere left for him to go. And quite honestly, if I'm a juror on this case, even though I'm in very liberal Manhattan, I would be questioning why this case was brought in the first place. And obviously, we know that it was bonk from the beginning, but I think that even the jurors in this case are going to have a very difficult time justifying any sort of conviction when A, they still don't know what one of the crimes Trump is being accused of is, and B, the star witness upon whom this entire Case rested, Michael Cohen basically lied to them under oath. A couple of things. One, I don't buy the fact that he goes, Why were you taping your client, Donald Trump?

After all, you wanted to go to the White House. Why are you taping him?

Well, I wanted to protect him against David Pecker. That's totally ridiculous.

So you'd lied there. Jonathan Cheli says it's a flat-out lie. There's no even logic to doing that. David Pecker is a friend of Trump's, which was whatever they're trying to do with the capture and kill and capture. You buy the story and then you don't print it.

That's totally legal. A lot of people do it, sadly. But I want to bring it to something else. And I'll just paraphrase it. Essentially, one of the key moments where Michael Cohen says, I reached out to Keith Schiller to tell him, to tell President Trump, that I'm handling the Stormy Daniels thing.

Needs to talk to you about some details on it. They go, Really? This text message, at which time it was proven, the text message he was referring to was really to Keith Schiller to get the FBI involved because he was being harassed by a 14-year-old. Nothing to do with this case. He was totally dumbfounded.

That was the moment.

So while I was talking, Talking about both. No, there's no proof you were talking about both.

So they proved he has a vendetta against the former president. He was bitter, almost suicidal, that he wasn't picked to go to the White House. And then you said that he didn't act on his own. It was the president, the one who. Spike who bought this story in order to not come out to protect him against the election, not against his family.

So all this stuff is blowing up through other witnesses. My sense is, though, the prosecution doesn't realize it and feels as though I got a New York jury, it doesn't matter. Am I wrong? I think you're right in that. I mean, if you look at how this case was brought in the first place, Alvin Bragg and the Democratic team who have brought this case, they really were doing the bare minimum to even disguise their own conflicts of interest in this.

We think about the judge who was asked to preside over this, Judge Merchant. You know, you could have selected any number of judges in Manhattan who didn't have a daughter who was working for Democratic operatives, who hadn't donated to Biden's campaign. And yet, Alvin Bragg didn't care about any of this because they have never tried to hide their true motivations for bringing the case, which is just to humiliate Donald Trump. I think that they sincerely hope for a conviction, but you have to understand that this isn't just happening in a Manhattan courtroom. This is also playing out in the courtroom of public opinion.

And this is why you had someone like Stormy Daniels brought to testify, even though her testimony was completely irrelevant to the charges against Trump, because they're trying to humiliate the former president. They're trying to convince those independent and swing. State voters, that he's a bad guy and that you shouldn't vote for him in November.

So that's the true motivation of the case, regardless of whether they're able to secure a conviction. Yeah, I think you're right. But I'm going to play something for you now. What I try to do is to, because If you book an attorney, they'll always find something on the flip side.

So I wanted to go over to CNN and find out what they were saying about this day, which was a disaster for the defense by almost all accounts.

So their lead analyst, Eli Hoenig, said this, cut nine. I don't think I've ever seen a star cooperating witness get his knees chopped out quite as clearly and dramatically as what just happened with Michael Cohen. I've certainly seen very effective cross-examinations of cooperating witnesses. I've seen aspects of their story cut into and called into question, but this goes to the heart of the allegation here: that phone call October 24th, and it looks to the jury and to Anderson Cooper and Tara Scannell and Judge George Grasso, who were all in the courthouse, that that was a devastating moment.

So he's saying he was chopped down. They're saying his credibility was shot.

Now they got a weekend to try to rehab him. The prosecution will probably be at some point on Monday. What do you think, Kaylee? Is the significance of the judge saying I want to close the arguments ready by Tuesday? This thing could closing arguments is usually a day, right?

Yeah, yeah, and again, there's no more legitimacy to this case. I think it's going to end the way that it started with a spectacular bang of embarrassment for the Democratic Party. And I think that's why you have all these CNN analysts and the other liberal pundits freaking out about Cohen's testimony, not just because they realize that the entire case was legally absurd to begin with and that Cohen's testimony was embarrassing, but because they realize that this has actually become a political liability for them at this point. You know, the entire point of these cases, the charges against Trump, was to hurt him in the election among these voters. And yet, we look at the polls, right, and we see that in many cases, it seems like it's having the exact opposite effect, where it's proven to be a rallying point for the former president who's able to go to these voters and say, look at the way the elite hate me.

Look at the way that they are trying to hurt me over and over and over again. And I think that's repulsive to a lot of independent and swing state voters. Who envision themselves being prosecuted by a biased and partisan judicial system, and it's not right to them. I think you're right. I mean, for the longest time, from the day President Trump was elected, he had one day to celebrate.

Then they had the Russia investigation. We now was totally drumped up by Hillary Clinton. She got a $400,000 fine to her campaign, not even to her. $400,000 for putting the whole country through two and a half years of what was a LAR, costing multi-million dollars. And they're going over this.

Then they had the Ukraine impeachment. Clearly, I don't think Hirudi Giuliani was acting responsibly. I don't think he was. He was acting ridiculous. You want to find out what Joe Biden's up to?

You could do that, but not the way he did it, but not impeachable. We went through that again. And then we know with the pandemic, nobody's fault except China and the way they handled it. We know what happened with the election. And now you just want to see a campaign.

Instead, we got multiple investigations, multiple indictments.

Now we got a trial. After two civil trials, they'll do anything not to be on a level playing field with this president. And it's just not working to date. No, it's not. And it's funny because some of the liberal pundits have also complained that because Trump is in the courtroom so often, because he's being kept from the campaign trail, that that in and of itself is hurting Biden.

Because again, you remember when Trump was on social media, he would say inflammatory things that the Biden campaign back in 2020 would immediately seize on and spin into this big deal.

Well, Trump is pretty focused on one thing right now, and that's all of the charges that the Democrats have been bringing against him.

So he doesn't have a lot of time to waste making Biden look better than he actually is. And so Democrats are starting to panic about that. And they want Trump back on the campaign trail. They're like, wait, please start talking again so that we can twist your words and use that in our own campaign messaging. And Kaylee, just lastly, and I do want to play one cut for you, what happened in Congress yesterday.

But The President of the United States has to know the poll numbers are real, even though he keeps saying they're not. He's at the African American Museum today. He's going to be speaking at a historically black college morehouse as a commencement address this weekend. There's already protests lining up. He's talking about doing all these things to help minorities, including funding the HB.

They're also putting out James Clyburn and asking him to campaign for him. The numbers among African Americans, 74% showed up to vote last time.

Now that number is 67%. And not only that, he does not have the same percentage of the vote. Right now, Donald Trump's in around 20% of the black vote. You know, there's a degree of panic by the actions of the last few days, don't you think? Absolutely.

And Biden isn't just hemorrhaging support among black voters. He's also hemorrhaging support among Hispanics, among suburban women, among young voters under the age of 30. These are all demographics that he needs just to hold on to the states that he won back in 2020. And again, if Trump is up at 20% among black voters, Biden loses Georgia. Biden loses Michigan.

Biden loses Nevada if Trump's support among Hispanics remains as strong as it's showing in these pollings.

So you're right. Biden can pretend that he's in denial about these swing state polls, but I think the very fact that he's agreed to debate Trump shows that he knows that this is a five-alarm bell panic mode for his campaign and that he's got to kick it into high gear. I don't care about the network. I would love it to be on Fox Selfishly, but I'm not talking about that. But for Trump to sign off on Jake Tapper and Dana Bash is a huge mistake.

They're talented. They're smart, but they hate Trump. They don't think he's worthy. They think he's a white supremacist. They think he's.

A Nazi. They think all the horrible things that anti-Trumpers think. How could you possibly get an unbiased moderator like that? There's too much at stake. There's people at CNN that might be able to do it, not those two.

Am I wrong? No, it's a great point. And you're right. The risk here is that the debate ends up not being between Biden and Trump, but between Dana Bash, Jake Tapper and Trump. And I suspect that, that probably will be the case.

And this is actually an important point too, is we all know Biden's mental capacity is not what it should be just because of his age. And You know, there's a temptation to set the bar low simply because of his gaff-pro nature. This is the problem, though, is that if we set the bar too low, he's going to easily surpass it. And Trump is already going to be at a disadvantage because of the biased nature of both the network and the host. And so, you know, I've been telling people: actually, we need to raise the expectations for Biden because Trump is already going to be swimming against the current in this debate to begin with.

And if the president of the United States, an 81-year-old, wants people to elect him for another four years, actually, the standards should be higher for him than it should be for Trump.

So we'll see what happens. I'm a little bit skeptical that the debate even takes place at all. I could very easily see Biden citing one of these new rules that he's demanding as a reason not to participate, but we'll see. Yeah, we'll see if Trump looks at this and says, you know, I can't take Jake Tapper, Dana Bash.

Well, that's a deal breaker then. You know, actually, to tell you the truth, judging by the way the trial is going, I think Anderson Cooper is a lot more fair.

So he probably has the same feelings. But I think that he's more professional of hiding it. And I think that just judging by the way he deals with Arthur Idala and other defense attorneys that clearly don't have an action grind against Trump, I would take him. If I'm Trump, I would just say, just do me a favor. Get rid of those two.

Just give me Anderson Cooper. Remember, they fired the news director that agreed to give Donald Trump a town hall. Why do you expect it to be fair? It makes no sense. Kaylee, thanks.

Yeah, thanks so much, Kaylee. I appreciate it. Thank you. Kayla McGee White fired up the Skype for us. We appreciate that.

1866-408-7669. I'm going to talk more about that. I didn't get to it. But when we come back, the most in the craziest exchange, the most unprofessional exchange you probably will ever hear. in the U.S.

Congress. Right when we return. It's Brian Kilmeade. The more you listen, the more you'll know it's Brian Killmead. I'd like to know if any of the Democrats on this committee are employing Judge Murshawn's daughter.

What that has to do with Mary Garland? Do you know what we're here for? I think your fake eyelashes are messing up. No, that's beneath even more. That is absolutely unacceptable.

How dare you to the physical appearance of another person? Are your feelings hurt? Oh, girl, baby girl. Oh, really? Don't even play, baby girl.

We are going to. So that was Marjorie Taylor Greene leaning over, saying, Does any Democrats dealing with Judge Murchaunt's daughter, anyone hired her as a consultant? Which is actually a question, even though inappropriate at the time, that we should know because Judge Murchan worked, Judge Murchaunt's daughter, act like she's 11, she's 35, and she's been a key person with Adam Schiff.

Now she's working with Dan Goldman. She's a big Democratic consultant. And Dan Goldman's actually running through rehearsals with Michael Cohen. Think about that and the optics. If I was a judge, I'd go to my daughter and go, What are you trying to do to me?

Get me off this case?

So, having said that, she reads Marjorie Taylor Green says that. And then when Crockett says, Why are you Congresswoman? Crockett says, Why are you bringing it up? She brings up the eyelash comment. Then AOC comes in to save the day.

Should we hear more? Mr. Chair, point of order. Ms. Crockett, I'm just curious, just to better understand your ruling, if someone on this committee then starts talking about somebody's bleach-blonde, bad-built, butch body, that would not be engaging in personalities, correct?

A what now? Chairman, I make a motion to strike those words. I don't think that's a time to find clarification on what qualifies. Chairman, motion to strike those words. We're not going to do this.

Look, you guys earlier literally just. You just voted to do that. I never voted. I'm trying to get clarification. Look at it.

Calm down. Calm down. No, no, no, no. Because this is what y'all do. I'm trying to get clarification.

I can't hear you with your yelling. Don't want me to. Calm down. No. Please calm down.

Don't tell me to calm down. Calm down. Because y'all talk nonsense. And then you can't do it. I don't know where to start with that.

That's Jasmine Crockett, Anna Pauline Luna, going at it. And Luna's the Republican, Crockett's the Democrat. And she just brought up a hypothetical. What if I called her a bleached bronze butch body? And then James Comer's like, that is over my head.

What is that? In South Carolina, I guess where he's from, they do not say that. I never heard that term, butch body. Because you can't say she's in bad shape. You know, because Margitalo Green looks in very good shape.

But she was characterized as having a butch body, which is a negative, right? I mean, it's again, it depends on the eyes of the beholder, but. That came off her tongue so quickly. Either her brain is wildly fast, or she's said that phrase before. True.

And I never used it, but it makes sense to me. He was able to piece it together. But remember, they had a pause. They had to go take a timeout.

So she's trying to figure out what's going to be struck from the record. The eyelash comment.

So if I call, say, a butch body, blonde, bleach bond, is that going to be struck from the record? And that just caused all hell to break loose. These people are nuts. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead, Trump's warhead.

Than he's ever been. It's going the wrong way. It's not. working Everything that we're throwing is spaghetti at a wall. and none of it is sticking.

We gotta like try to think of something different because what we do in is really, really not worth it.

Well, that is James Carville. He echoes. David Axelrod and other Democratic experts who see that Trump is up in the poll.

So Fox Poll is a little bit closer. The Cinna New York Times is a little bit further. These both are not right-wing polls. They tend to be right up the middle. Josh Krashar is a Fox News political analyst, editor-in-chief of Jewish Insider.

Josh, is James Carville right? Yeah. And I think sometimes it feels like he's the only democratic strategist that Is sounding the alarms based on reality, based on the political fundamentals and the political polling that's out there. Um, look, I I always like to say that that the actions of a campaign also are as loud as the polling. And the fact that this week you saw the Biden campaign essentially rush to get debates in June and September as well.

Usually from a very cynical political point of view, like but usually an incumbent president, if they're doing well, doesn't want to debate, doesn't want to open themselves up to any any any mistakes or controversy or problems. But when you're down and when the numbers are as bad as they are for Joe Biden, you need to have a debate to turn things around. Otherwise, there's not many other opportunities you're going to have until November to reset the narrative, to reset the state of play.

So, you know, the fact that Biden is so aggressive in trying to get the debates, and I think it's great that we got him scheduled. Trump agreed right away. And we've got two debates at least scheduled for June and September. But, you know, the reality that Biden was the one trying to get the debates on the schedule, that's not what you usually see from the president, a president seeking reelection. Usually they try to be cautious.

They try to play prevent defense, hold the lead if they're ahead. If you're behind, though, you want the debates, and that's what I think the Biden campaign is looking at. And they're also trying to, they're definitely concerned about the black float. I mean, he's speaking at Morehouse. Commencement address.

Evidently, there's a lot of people on campus that don't want him to speak. And you have Cardi B coming out, and you might not think that's a big deal, but it is. She's extremely popular in the black community. She's coming out and says, I will not vote for him. I've been totally let down by him.

Most of my family is still in the Bronx. I'm trying to help them out. I see what they're going through. This has been a disaster. Nothing has come through.

Lawrence Taylor, the other night, saying I will never vote for a Democrat again. People might say, Well, Lawrence Taylor's had problems with the law.

Well, that's fine. He's also an extremely popular athlete from meager means in North Carolina. And he's on stage saying, I'm not, he sounds more like Allen West than anybody else. Cardi B saying this. Before, she had seen Trump as a dire threat, but under Biden, she's felt layers and layers of disappointment from what she sees on domestic and foreign management.

The cost of living is too high, wages are too low, and too little is being done about it. And I feel like people got betrayed. It's just like, damn, you not caring about anybody. This really gets me upset that there is solutions to it. This is a solution.

I know there's a solution because you're spending billions of dollars on any effing thing.

So they're not doing things to bring the price down. Listen to what he might be walking into at Morehouse, the historically black campus. Quote: This from a sophomore. This is a global catastrophe in Gaza, and Joe Biden's coming here to pander for our votes. This is political blackface.

I mean, how does he think that's not going to be embarrassing? Wow.

I mean, those are quite the reactions. And look, if you believe the polls, and I think a lot of smart strategists do, Donald Trump is on track to win the highest share of the African-American vote in over four decades. Really going back to the 60s, I think, if the polls are generally in the right ballpark. Biden is. Really, really struggling.

And I don't think it's so much that these are Republican voters, but it's they're very disillusioned voters. They're people who are having trouble paying bills. They're losing ground. Inflation has hit them really hard. I think that's the vast majority of a lot of these upper grabs African American voters.

Then you have some elements of the left, the far left, that are, you know, that I don't think it's a big share of the black vote, but they are very just, you know, angry about what's going on in the Middle East. They're sympathetic to the Palestinians, and you've seen that all across college campuses. Like that, I think the Biden campaign thought Morehouse might be a safe space for him to go to, as opposed to Columbia, or as opposed to University of Michigan or other major campuses. But you have the same issues there that you're seeing in almost every college campus. And Biden also has an issue with younger voters.

Generation Z is also very much up for grabs, and that's one of his base constituencies back in 2020.

So there's a lot of, I mean, Biden's bleeding ground on the middle. He's having trouble winning the moderate. And he's also having a lot of dissent on the left. And it's not a good place to be if you're the incumbent looking for another term. The major disasters at the border, total man-made crisis.

It's worse than it's ever been. You saw the gottaway numbers, 690,000 last year. It's getting worse this year. Chinese immigrants, we don't know what they're up to, but they're not people of Meagre means. They come over here, look like middle-class guys with rollerbags, 24,000.

What are they up to?

So now, quickly, Senator Schumer is trying to revitalize the bipartisan legislation marshaled by Lankford, the White House, and I believe Senator Murphy, and trying to bring that up again. He knows it's not going to get the votes. What's he up to?

Well, it's a political messaging. Strategy that I think Democrats thought they had a pretty good argument when you had the Lankford bipartisan bill that passed the Senate that was foreign aid plus border security, and it divided the Republican Party. It caused at the time a little bit of a schism within the Republican Party. I think the shoe is now on the opposite foot where Republicans. we're largely united in in passing foreign aid, and immigration is still an issue that they're they're running against Joe Biden on.

And Democrats are the party that's really divided on a whole lot of important issues, including foreign policy, the Middle East in particular.

So, you know, they're trying to, Democrats are trying to change the story. They're trying to, and they're playing defense in this instance because immigration, the Fox News poll showed, I think the worst issue for Democrats and for President Biden is the issue of border security and immigration. They know that they need to show some credibility. Democrats at Schumer need to show some credibility on the issue.

So they're bringing back essentially what was a bipartisan, at one point, bill that had some border enforcement measures that was embraced by certain border security groups at the time and trying to use that to give them some credibility on the issue. I don't think playing political games and not getting anything passed through Congress is going to really move the needle a whole lot.

So I'm going to bring you more to the border and talk about how people are really concerned about what's going on with these Chinese coming across, especially at a time in which they've never been more belligerent towards us in almost every way, combining with Russia to counter us. They basically just said that.

So knowing that, are we letting people in of military age, which we know idea what they're going to be up to?

So when that was brought up, At the House for debate, listen to Congresswoman Yvette Clark, a Democrat from New York. I'm embarrassed to say where I'm broadcasting from. Listen to this, Cut Twenty One. We're here today because Republicans are demagoguing and exploiting the xenophobic and white supremacist ideologies that are fueling the immigration debate. I mean, Josh, where do you start with that?

Well, boy, I mean, that that I I that's the first I heard that sound bite, and it is pretty remarkable. you know, Clark being one of the most liberal lawmakers. in in Congress representing uh New York City. But look, I mean the Demo th this is uh the the challenge that the Democratic Party faces writ large, uh Brian, because There are a number of issues where like the mainstream position i you know, you have seventy, eighty percent of Americans that want tougher border security that are concerned about who's coming across the the border. And yet you have a left, a very activist left that has a lot of sway in this White House that takes the twenty percent position that is in internally and in the bureaucracy is advocating for the White House not to you know, to, you know, to call for liberalized policies, open you know, the open borders argument at the twenty twenty primary is what a lot of these folks believe.

So there's this tension within the administration, within the Democratic Party, and it's really hard for Democrats to get on the right page on the same page unless the right page when it comes to coming up with a policy on how we crack down on the border. And I don't think you're going to see any clarity, even though Schumer's trying to make a political move. I don't think there's going to be any more clarity in the coming months. Yeah, I don't so either. I also need it fixed.

I think people are concerned. You heard about that Jordanian story about these Jordanian nationals that try to breach into a military base, and we had to go dig that story up. People used to talk about, you know, a bridge is about to be blown, a terror pot foiled. That used to be front and center.

Now this has got to be uncovered. I guess the administration is embarrassed, needs the details on that. But we're also concerned about what's happening over in Israel, the protests on campus. We understand there were protests again last night at a different university.

So, in terms of getting those weapons to Israel that they paid for, it looks like there's a movement in Congress to do that and force the president's hand. Listen to Congressman Mike McCall, Chairman of Foreign Relations, Cut 24. I can only think of one purpose to withhold these weapons. This administration is more concerned about a small vocal wing of activists than the ironclad commitment. That they talked about.

to stand by Israel. Under this administration, I've noticed a disturbing trend, a trend where we turn our backs on our allies and fall short of the promises we make.

So they're trying to figure it out right now. Where do you think this administration's at? Are they worried about the Muslim vote? Should they be more concerned about the Jewish vote?

Well, th they should be worried about the pro-Israel vote because as the Fox News poll that just came out this week showed, you know, by more than a two to one margin, American voters, including a m a a a plurality of Democrats, favor Israel over over just the Palestinians.

So, the public opinion is on the pro-Israel side by quite a sizable margin. The problem is they're trying, when you're trailing and you're in such tough. Shape, you need to win everyone over. You can't, you know, you need to try to pander to every constituency and get everyone on your side that voted for you in 2020.

So that's, I mean, if Biden was in a better position, I think he'd be. more able to run a more a campaign that appeals to the broad middle rather than trying to desperately win over every every every voter, even those that are very far to the left. No, this is Israel is a great example of the issue that we were just talking about, that you have a big issue that divides the Democratic Party, unites the Republican Party, and the Independents are largely on the Republican side. Israel, border security, some of the DEI stuff, the kind of activist left sort of social policy. Those are issues where the Democrats are divided.

And they're fighting amongst themselves as much as going after the Republicans. On the Israel vote that took place yesterday, even at 16 House Democrats vote with the Republicans and trying to push allow the Biden administration to make sure Israel gets all the weapons it needs, even though Biden was lobbying against the legislation, even though House Democrats were whipping to keep the party united. And so that's where the party is, that there's an activist left. I mean, I think McCall put it quite well, that the party's divided. Most Democrats are generally pro-Israel, but you've got this very loud, squad, progressive faction that is really making the party miserable and making it hard for Biden to unite kind of a Around a broad centrist position.

And Josh, lastly, it's the after 18 days and 19 witnesses. It looks like we could get closing arguments beginning as early as Tuesday. When it gets closer, just think about this. Do you believe that this verdict will be almost like the OJ trial, where everyone's just going to be waiting, waiting, waiting, although no cameras? What is it going to be like?

Have you thought about it? Yeah, I mean it's a g uh the the big difference between OJ and and and th this, uh among other things, is the fact that there's no Video in the courtroom. Then there's no crime, but I don't want to jump right. Um Politically, you know, my my big question is, how much would a conviction move the need? I mean, I think that's one thing where there are some polls that show even though voters view the the Bragg case, this case, as the least serious of all all the legal challenges that Trump is facing, you know, we don't really know whether The conviction being convicted of, I guess, a felony would move the needle a little bit.

I think it would be, you know, a very you'd have the classic partisan division, but that's the one X factor. Would a conviction change the dynamic at all? I don't think so, but I think that's one thing the Trump campaign has to worry about. I think so. Yeah, well, he's a felon.

Yeah, right. Have you seen the case? Number one, but could he put an ankle bracelet on him, tell him he's got to stay in home confinement? Are they going to have the video of him getting cuffed and getting another mug shot? Is he going to have to be detained until sentencing?

Something like that, I think, is something unexpected. I expect, for lack of a better term. Josh, thanks so much. Appreciate it. Have a great weekend.

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Stay with Brian Kilmead. Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. You referred to President Trump as a borish cartoon misogynist, didn't you? Defense Attorney Todd Blanche asked.

It sounds like something I would say, Cohen responded. A Cheeto-dusted cartoon villain? That also sounds like something I said. You referred to President Trump as dictator D-Back. Didn't you?

Cohen says, sounds like something I said.

So that is the Daily Show having fun with the dialogue that's now out there. They thought it was important to make Michael Cohen repeat every ridiculous insult, but it is funny how ridiculous they are and how juvenile he is because Michael Cohen was doing Podcasts. TikTok streams about his His need for vengeance. He wrote a book called Revenge on Donald Trump. Why is that important?

Part of what they're trying to prove is the case in the defense: this guy's got an axe to grind. He will do anything to get Trump. In jail. He said that was his goal. He had a t-shirt on with it.

Why is that important? For the defense to say this guy will say anything he's lied in the past. Why are you believing him now? He is motivated to get Trump in jail, which, by the way, Trump's not his problem. The government went after Michael Cohen.

We'll worry about that another time. Number two, they want to say prove that Donald Trump only cared about the election, not his personal life.

Well, you got multiple people like Bob Costello, like Hope Hicks, like Rana. Graff, his long time assistants, and Madeline Madeleine Westerholt from the White House, who have officially all they have said, no, no. It was really about Melania, how much he cared about what she had to say and the embarrassment that would ensue.

So there's that counter. The other thing they want to say is, the NDA is legal, but did you do it for your election fortunes? No, I did it in order to keep a bad story down. That's a part of it. What about the payments?

I was paying my attorney? Attorney fees. Why'd you pay on a personal account?

Okay, fine me. If I paid in a personal account, I got a bunch of checks. I signed them all. Who knew that? The CFO.

Where's the CFO? At Rikers Island. Who's the other witness to all these transactions? The CFO. Where is he?

Rikers Island. I'm not too sure. I'm uh if I'm oh If I'm Weiselberg? I don't really want to be a part of this. And you probably want to keep mad at this.

But believe me. If he could have said anything bad against Trump, he wouldn't be in jail. And this is his second stint in jail. Guy's 76 years old, not in the best health. And because he wouldn't make up a story about Trump.

So this is Pretty unbelievable.

Now, I'm always thinking worst case scenario. I don't, when I saw this case, I always thought there's going to be surprises. Michael Cohen said, everybody thinks they know this case, there's going to be surprises.

Well, the prosecution's resting. I don't see any surprise. I don't even see a crime. Can you imagine? What It's Gonna Be Like If he does, in fact, get a hung jury or an acquittal.

With Georgia in hyperspace, the Supreme Court deciding about immunity. January 6th, excuse me, the document case very much in delay of game with Eileen Cannon looking at various motions.

So much to go through in terms of documents. And then the counterweight of selling what Joe Biden did with dockers over the course of 40 years: Brian Kilmicho. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show. Brian In Kill Mead. Hi everyone, Brian Kilman here, like the guy with the deep voice said.

Thanks for being with us all week long. Truly appreciate it. Just a quick note: I'm going to be able to get on stage again at the end of June, the end of July. I want everyone to go to BrianKilmey.com and get tickets. It's definitely, it's called the History, Liberty, and Laughs Tour.

I have a chance to talk about all my books in detail and internet in a fun way and bring great moments to life. It is. June 29th, Indianapolis, Indiana. Two days now after a debate. Allison, why does this always happen, by the way?

Because right away, are they going to want us to go live that night? That's going to be something we have to think about. Hopefully, not. But I'm also supposed to do Laura Ingram's show the day after the debate. Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania, July 27th.

With me right now is Shannon Bream. Shannon, welcome. Hello, how are you? I'm doing good. It's good to see you in New York.

I almost saw you when you were in New York. You'll see me there next week. I'm coming to bug you some more. What are you doing? I'm going to be doing more Trump coverage of the trial.

We'll be maybe on verdict watch by then, but I'm going to sit in with our folks at the Five and some other fun places and hopefully get to come visit you in person. This hour, I don't want you to be too jealous, but Robert Costello is going to be joining us. He is, you know, the former legal advisor to Michael Cohen. He's a former prosecutor of the Southern District of New York, and he's got freedom to talk about what he discussed with Michael Cohen, which really blows up the foundation of this case. Shannon, from what we know and how Michael Cohen blew up Friday, excuse me, Thursday, and then we'll be back on the stand on Monday.

Would you call Robert Costello if you're the defense team? You have time to prepare because the first thing they tell you in law school is do not ask questions you do not know the answers to. And it takes time to prep a witness.

So listen, if you're thinking about it, you've got to see if he wants to sit down with you this weekend and spend a few hours prepping testimony. Otherwise, I would not do it flippantly because they need to know where the pitfalls are, the red flags, things that would be bad for the defense. They need to know that before they put him on the stand.

So if they think they have time to prep him and he's amenable to doing it, short of that, I would not just throw him up there. You know, some people have said that, you know, there's little things, like there was a back channel to Michael Cohen when he was being investigated. Do you want to bring all that stuff up? Is that what you were talking about? I mean, potentially, I think that there are all kinds of things you have to know once you put a witness on the stand that's fair game for the opposing side as well.

There will be a cross-examination.

So I would want to fully vet and dig into all of that stuff before I said, hey, this guy is key to our case. Let's put him on the stand. I think he does offer a lot of good things for the defense. But right, you've got to be covered on all bases on exactly what he would say. He's under oath and he's going to.

Answer truthfully, so you need to know what that's going to be. You know, the defense may be feeling right now. the prosecution's case wasn't that strong. Do we drag the jury through five more witnesses? Or do we say, listen, their burden was of beyond a reasonable doubt, they didn't meet it.

And so we rest our case.

So yesterday We heard the judge say, be ready to give your closing arguments on Tuesdays. Does that mean that he has word that the defense aren't going to call many witnesses? No, but I think he wants people to be ready. You've got to be ready for these things. And because the weird schedule days on and days off, I think he just wants everybody to be ready for it.

It's possible the defense defenses do that sometimes when they feel like, okay, this burden was on the government. They didn't meet it. I'm not going to twist your head around a bunch of more witnesses. Let's go. But I know they are fighting over Bradley Smith, who's a former FAC commissioner.

They want him to testify on election law. And so far, the judge has said no. It's been very limiting on that. But he did say this weekend he would consider it again and look at it because, you know, as Andy McCarthy has written in depth and very eloquently, you've had people like David Pecker and Michael Cohen and other people who are not election law experts up there testifying about things that touch on that. But the judge won't let in an actual election law expert.

He thinks the defense should keep fighting for it. And we'll see what Marchon says. Maybe over the weekend he says, all right, it's more relevant because of the testimony we've heard. We'll let this guy in. Wait a second.

You're saying it's an election law violation. And you have a guy who wants to come in and define what that is, how could you possibly stop defense from bringing that up?

Well, what the judge has said so far is that he thinks that the contours of where they want to go with that expert go beyond this case and aren't relevant. And so I think that most of us know most of the rulings that Judge Merton has handed down have been beneficial to the prosecution, not to the defense. Listen, the defense will say, good, he's giving us plenty of stuff on appeal to go after potentially. He may be softening on this witness because I think because you've had so many other people up there talking about campaign laws and campaign finance and violations, it's going to be really hard to justify not letting this guy take the stand. But it's up to the judge.

Yeah, I mean, it's just pretty fascinating. Just real quick, for people listening in, of course, we don't know what the camera is, and I'm not going to read the dialogue. But essentially, Michael Cohen, they got to that moment where he said, I had a call. He claimed I had a call, a text message into Keith Schiller in order to continue our conversation with President Trump about this Stormy Daniels situation. And they find out that was not the contact.

It was about a 14-year-old that was harassing him. And they wanted Keith Schiller. He wanted Keith Schiller to get the situation. Secret Service or FBI to help him out. And Keith Schiller says, You're in.

So they basically found that he was not telling the truth in that circumstance. He came back and said, Well, it was among the things we were talking about, Stormy Daniels and that. But nobody thinks that would fly, including CNN's lead analyst, Eli Hoenig. Listen to this: cut nine. I don't think I've ever seen a star cooperating witness get his knees chopped out quite as clearly and dramatically as what just happened with Michael Cohen.

I've certainly seen very effective cross-examinations of cooperating witnesses. I've seen aspects of their story cut into and called into question, but this goes to the heart of the allegation here, that phone call on October 24th, and it looks to the jury and to Anderson Cooper and Tara Scannell and Judge George Grasso, who were all in the courthouse, that that was a devastating moment.

So I mean CNN of all places. Yeah, there are a lot of people out there who are known not Trump lovers, somebody would say Trump haters across the spectrum yesterday who were saying this was a bad day for the prosecution and a bad day for Michael Cohen. I was not in the courtroom yesterday, but we have excellent producers, reporters, all kinds of folks who were in there. And I can't remember if it was Kerry Kupik or maybe Lydia who said yesterday, the jury almost seemed like they were getting bored over the litany of all the times that Cohen admitted on the stand that he has lied. They're walking him through lying to Congress and in court proceedings and all kinds of things.

You know, so it all comes down to whether this jury believes this man, because the prosecution has built their whole case on his veracity.

So he admits he's lied all those other times. He admits that he wants to see President Trump convicted. He admits all these things.

So can they then say, okay, but I still believe the veracity, he's telling me the truth now about what he's saying. The jury's got to make that decision beyond a reasonable doubt.

So last night, Robert Costello knew his name came up in court, and he went on with Laura Ingram last night. And one of the things he says, I don't recall having these conversations with Robert Costello. He noticed he didn't say that that's not true. I want you to hear Costello's response, Cut Five. The bottom line is he didn't have truthful information.

He kept on saying during that same meeting, he would pound his fist on the table, point his finger at Jeff Citron and myself, and he'd say, guys, I want you to know I will do whatever the F I have to do. I will never spend one day in jail.

Well, he spent more than one day in jail, and he blames Donald Trump for that.

Now, I wondered, though, why he would go out of his way, because he explained the $130,000 transaction was all his idea. He said Donald Trump had nothing to do with it. I said, why would you take this burden on? I knew when I spoke to Stormy Daniels' lawyer that she was going to say she had sex with Donald Trump. He said, I didn't believe that allegation at all, but I knew it would be embarrassing to Melania.

So That's what he's going to say. I don't know why you wouldn't call him because it would just knock everything out of the park. That would including the whole thing. What was the aim of making the payment? Just like you paid off the doorman on the phony kid out of wedlock case.

It was phony. Everybody knows it's phony. But you paid it in. Why'd you pay it, Mr. President?

Because I can't have this come out. Right, so and the same well Stormy Dan has happened.

Well, I don't know. If it did have but it's the same thing, I need it I can't have that out there. Right, and you saw the defense yesterday trying to go years back before President Trump even ran for president and show that there were times Cohen did act on his own. I mean, this is a guy who's a self-described fixer. There were times that things would come up that he would address them, and he admitted it wasn't always at the direction of President Trump.

So they're obviously trying to establish that he did things independently. President Trump couldn't have known every detail of everything Michael Cohen was doing. And if he really was a fixer, you wouldn't want to know every detail of what he was doing.

So we'll see. Again, it comes down to that jury, and they've got to be unanimous if they're going to convict President Trump on any of these 34 counts. And, you know, by the time we talk next Friday, we could have a verdict. That's true. And, Shannon, what have we discovered about Justice Alito and an upside-down flag?

They show a nation in distress. Yeah, so I talked to him this morning about this and got a lot more backstory on what went down. Apparently, there's a neighbor down the street from them who had a sign spelling out F. Trump with the word. This is all around January 2021.

And Mrs. Alito apparently brought up with a neighbor that it was within, you know, 50 feet of where kids are standing for the school bus, that conversation didn't go well. Things got heated between them. Just Salito tells me the neighbor then put up a sign in his yard that directly addressed Mrs. Alito and blamed her for January 6th.

So, of course, things are escalating. He tells me Justice Lito and his wife were on a walk in the neighborhood. There was a man at the house. Um with a sign now addressing Mrs. Alito, and they got into it.

And he says there was all kinds of vulgar language used directed at Mrs. Alito, including, he told me, quote, the C word.

So obviously things have not gone well with these neighbors. He says after that, she came back to the house. She was distraught. At some point, she decided to fly the flag upside down, did not ask his permission. He says, you know, she's an adult.

I do not control her. I don't have a right to. I don't have an interest in doing that. But that the flag was upside down for a short time. And he says there's just more to the story that thinks people should know.

Yeah, so now people are going to make a big deal of it. Those conservative judges have been on attack from the day they were confirmed and to be confirmed. You have to wonder, like from Kavanaugh and these guys if it's even worth it, but just I'm sure they think it is.

Well, keep in mind, too, like they still have protesters. Since the leak of Dobb, they have had protesters on a regular basis at a number of their homes. I think Saturday was the most recent one at the Alito's house.

So those continue as well. It's just, you know, Just Alito says, I admit it was a very tense time. I've got some neighbors who are political. This is the D.C. area.

Of course, that's going to happen. And he says, yes, everybody was a little overheated in those moments and in that time.

Meanwhile, Senator Menendez is still trying to make excuses for the gold bars and the money that it was exchanged, the cars and everything else, blaming his wife. Don't you like your friends? Not yet. But the day's young. But I wouldn't blame my wife.

I know that. Pretty sure. And plus, it's never her fault anyway.

So, this is one thing I think the Daily Show had a perfect solution on how Menendez could have done.

So Bob and Nendez's argument is that his wife was secretly orchestrating a corrupt international bribery scheme and hoarding gold bars in his own house, and he never knew it. And that, gentlemen, is why you need to ask your wife about her day. Wow, that's true. Oh boy. All right.

Communication is always the best. Communication is important in a marriage. You know, my first thought, though, when I see sort of these conversations or discussions that look like they're pointing the finger at Mrs. Menendez, remember in a lot of states there are spousal bans on testifying against a spouse in criminal cases. I've got to look at New Jersey, and this is a federal case.

But it can be at times that in neighbors who or spouses who are not related to the Menendez's, that spouses agree that somebody's going to kind of publicly take some of the blame, but then when it comes to it, they're going to block the testimony of their spouse in court so that there's nothing actually under oath or that goes before a jury.

So I don't know how much of this is legal wrangling that the two parties have agreed to, the two spouses have agreed to. I don't know.

So, I guess one thing is it's always good to not blame your wife. I always think that.

So, for anything, especially when they've just been diagnosed with breast cancer. Right, and that's true. That's another thing to add to that. All right, so who's on your show? We've got Elise Stefanik is going to be with us.

She's coming to us from Jerusalem, where she will be just off a speech to the Knesset. We're going to talk about Israel policy and the mixed messaging. A lot of people think the Biden administration is sending. We've also got Congressman Aachen Klaus from the other side of the aisle to join that conversation. He just voted against that bill in the House that would force us to send more weapons, send the White House to send more weapons.

We're going to do a deep dive on all this legal stuff, too.

So we've got Will Scharf, one of the attorneys for President Trump, and our legal panel of Jonathan Turley and Tom Dupree, and we're going to break it all down. Plus, you know all the new polls. Can be fun. It is. And Scotty Scheffler, now in trouble, the number one golfer in the world tried to drive around an accident.

Didn't pull over. A cop jumped on the car and he kept driving.

So they put him under arrest. And he's still got now he's back out in golfing. No pressure. Right. Golf isn't hard enough.

You don't want to spend time in jail before. Or he could be so relaxed, he really makes history. But if a guy's in a just because he didn't see one of the things they're saying is he didn't know there was a cop. But who would be standing out in the rain by an accident in a yellow raincoat? I don't know.

I can't wait to hear his side of the story. I mean, if he wants to come on Sunday, We'd love to chat. Yeah, he's going to be busy, though, probably. Yeah, this is what he said. This morning, I proceeded as directed by police officers.

It was very chaotic, understandably, considering the tragic accident. I'm hopeful to put this aside and focus on golf. I never intended to disregard instructions. Of course, all of us involved in the tournament express our deepest sympathies, etc., etc. All right, we'll see if that's going to work.

Shannon Bream, thank you so much. See Saturday night. All right, you got it. Saturday night, 9 o'clock. She's talking about One Nation, her second favorite show.

She also loves Sheldon. What's it called? Young Sheldon? She likes young Sheldon. She likes old Sheldon too, that's her husband.

Back in a moment. Newsmakers and newsbreakers. Hear it first on the Brian Kill Meet Show. Hey, welcome back, everyone. The IDF is my spokesperson, is just making this This statement now, you know, there's 129 hostages that have been taken into Gaza.

We don't know where they are, but we have, unfortunately, they've recovered three bodies. Um so it's a Ahmed Esther Bushkela, 28 years old, a fashion stylist, was on the phone with her uncle during the early morning attack. He then heard her begging. Her last words were, No, no, no. In a weak voice said, I love you.

That's the last thing she would say. Itstak Goherner, fifty six, was kidnapped from a party. His phone was located in Gaza, and that his only information indicates his abduction. He liked whatever his likes are. It's sad at 56.

And this 22-year-old's body is recovered, a German Israeli. She was declared dead at the end of October, shortly after the attack. A video circulated showing her body paraded through the streets of Gaza by Hamas in the back of a pickup. I think I know exactly who that is.

So. And I think we've all seen that video. That's the horrific people that did this. And think about these people at Stanford with all these others who are talking about Hamas. I am Hamas.

That's what you're responsible for. That's what you support. The outward killing. Innocent killing of people who were at a party.

So everybody knows exactly who you are, and your life will never be the same. And don't complain that Gaza is no longer in Palestinian control. Because the last time you guys had, for 38 years, there were no attacks from Gaza. Ever since Shiron left, went into a coma, they gave Gaza over without paying any price. And they took the money, they built tunnels, built an arsenal, and then staged one of the most horrific attacks in modern warfare that you can imagine.

So that's where we're at right now. And now we are at a point there. The President says, I'll give you anything you want. Our relations are ironclad. But of course, I don't like the way you're fighting this war.

Even though you need major bombs in order to blow up these tunnels, we're not going to give you what we need. That's caused so much backlash amongst Republicans. They are accusing Republicans of trying to make this political. No, just get them the weapons they paid for. That should not be political.

Congressman Mario Diaz-Belart said this. Cut twenty-five. What about the likely consequences of failure? to fully support Israel now when they need it. Does the administration doubt That Hamas will seize any opening, any opportunity to further maim and torture and kill.

Congress approved the supplemental. In a bipartisan way, and we expect the administration to follow the law and to deliver. Yeah, so would I. We're not even talking about the new stuff. We're talking about old stuff that was ordered a year and a half ago.

They're 500 and 1500 pound bombs, which had kits on them that made them smart bombs that would be able to deliver the exact location. But of course, General Biden knows better, and General Blinken with his air guitar knows war better. And Jake Sullivan, don't you feel rest assured with his military background? Oops, they don't have any, all three of them. But they're running the entire war, and they screwed up Ukraine, and they're screwing this up, too.

When we come back, we talk about the cases with Robert Costello, a former legal advisor to Michael Cohen. Will he be called to testify? Has he been called yet by the defense team? We'll discuss it. Breaking news, unique opinions.

Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Show. Joining us now is Robert Costello, a former legal advisor to Michael Cohen. Used to be with the Southern District of New York as a prosecutor and has been coming out because he just.

Well, we're going to find out. Coming out, telling what he knows about Michael Cohen going into this trial and where this trial should go. Robert, welcome to Brian Kill Meet Show. I appreciate it. Thank you.

Hi, Brian. How are you? I know you've been a busy guy of late. Uh first off From what you know about the trial, you came up yesterday and basically he doesn't remember anything that you said that you said that he said. And I'm talking about Michael Cohen saying he said that he had nothing on Trump.

What are your thoughts about how your name came up and what his response was?

Well, my initial thoughts are I saw before yesterday, I saw part of a transcript where Cohen was testifying on direct. And he was talking about me in that initial meeting. And virtually everything he said is a lie. And it's not just one-on-one remember I wasn't there in that room alone. I had my law partner sitting next to me, the guy who knew Michael Cohn for ten years.

Michael Cohn was a stranger to me. I had no idea who he was or what his involvement was in anything. But so there's at least two witnesses against one. But then there's also contemporaneous documents and notes that I took because quite frankly, my instinct told me don't trust this guy. And I'm glad I have those instincts because I took all sorts of, I wrote memos to the file and Emails and text messages to my partner about Michael Cohn because I simply didn't trust them.

Um He told us many fibs. But on that first meeting, when he was, by his own admission, suicidal. looking desperately for an escape route, as he called it. That's what he wanted to find out. He wanted to find out how can I get out of this mess that I see coming.

We didn't know exactly what it was because, according to Michael Cohn, he hadn't done anything wrong in his life up to that point. He told us he was cooperating with the special counsel. He was cooperating with Congress. He forgot to tell us that he lied to Congress. But I explained to him: listen, Michael, the Southern District of New York couldn't get a search warrant on a lawyer's office.

By themselves, they have to go to Maine Justice to get approval first, and then they have to go to a judge and show them the problem cause. These are very smart people in the Southern District of New York, and they're saying that there is evidence of a crime at the places to be searched. And they have probable cause at least to support that. I said, so tell me what it is in your past that you've done that would cause them to look into this. And he denied that he had done anything wrong.

In any event, we get down to the nitty-gritty with. He's telling us that he was on the roof of the Regency Hotel. That's where we met in the conference room on the second floor. That two nights before, he was on the roof and he was going to jump off because he just couldn't handle it. He's telling you this story.

Yes, yes. And he's telling me and he's telling my law partner who knew him for ten years, and they had business relationships on both at Sterling National Bank on an advisory committee as well as Columbia Grammar and Prep, a private school in Manhattan.

So He's saying, listen, I am literally at wit's end. I'm ready to jump off the building. You got to tell me, is there a way out of this? That's when we got into the discussion because he kept on saying, I can't believe they're trying to put me in jail for MDAs. I said, Michael, an NDA is a nondisclosure agreement.

It's perfectly legal. It's done all the time in civil cases when they wrap up a settlement. Uh There's got to be more here. What are you not telling us? What's going on?

So I said, tell me about the Stormy Daniels thing and how that came about. And obviously, what I was interested in because I explained to him: look, when the Southern District of New York focuses on somebody like you. You're not the target. You're simply in the way. The target is clearly Donald Trump.

They want any information you have about Donald Trump.

So I said to him, Why did you get involved in Stormy Daniels? He said the lawyer contacted him. He was in New York. He said Stormy Daniels was going to claim that Donald Trump had sex with her unless somebody either settled with them, gave them an NDA, a non-disclosure agreement, or bought the story.

So Michael said, look, I didn't believe that allegation one bit. He said, I thought it was absolute nonsense.

However, he said something like that would cause great embarrassment. It'd be a great embarrassment to Melania. He said, and that's why I decided to take care of this. I said, did Donald Trump have anything to do with this? No.

Did he know about this? No. Did he assist you in any way? No. I said, how did you get the money?

Was it Donald Trump's money? No. From his companies? No. From anybody associated with Trump?

No. Well, where did you get it? He said, I took out a HELOC loan. Which is a home equity loan. I said, for $130,000, why would you do that?

He said because I didn't want Melania to know. I didn't want anybody to know. I didn't want my wife to know. He said, because my wife's in charge of our family finances. And if I took money out of my account, you'd know right away.

and she would want and she'd ask one hundred questions.

So The long and the short of it is, he absolutely said over and over again, because when I was asking him, Do you have any truthful information? that you could you could tell the cor the prosecutors that we'll get you out of this thing. Anything on Donald Trump? No. And I must have asked him that seven or eight different ways.

He kept on saying, gave the same answer each time. I swear to God, Bob, I don't have anything on Donald Trump. I said, now it wasn't until subsequent meetings, sitting down and talking with this guy, where I said, You know, Michael, I'm trying to understand your motivation here. Why would you go out of your way to take care of this? On your own.

And the answer is. When Trump got elected, he took his inner circle down to Washington. Michael Cohn thought he was in that inner circle, but he was the only one left behind, and he was very bitter about that. I said, Michael, if you went to Washington, What do you what job do you think you would have gotten? Believe it or not, he said, well, I think I could have been Attorney General of the United States.

or at the very least, the Chief of Staff to the President.

Now I'm looking at this guy saying you know he's living in la la land if he thinks that. But in any event, he was bitter about that, and he was desperately seeking a way to get back into Trump's graces. And here's the thought. When he sees this situation, He takes care of it with a HELOC loan. Trump doesn't know anything about it, according to him, over and over again.

And later on, he goes to Trump and says, listen, boss. You could have had a big problem here, but me, Michael Cohn, I solved this for you, and nobody knew about it. And this way, he would get back into Trump's graces and hopefully go to Washington. That's what I believe motivated Michael Cohen. But he made it absolutely clear that Donald Trump had nothing to do with this at the time he made the payment.

So the New York Times writes today that Cohen felt that you became the messenger of Trump, delivering implicit instructions to him saying stay in the fold, don't flip, don't speak. Ridiculous. Here's why. First of all, he made that statement and said that I was in codes essentially with Rudy Giuliani right from the beginning. Rudy Giuliani wasn't even in the case at the time that we met with Michael Cohen at the Regency Hotel.

The announcement of Rudy Giuliani representing Donald Trump happened, I think, three or four days later, and I sent an email. Which the DA's office has, and the US Attorney's Office has, everybody has it, that. Uh told Michael, Listen, in case you haven't seen the news. Rudy Giuliani is going to be Trump's lawyer. And that's good news for you because I know him very well.

I've known him for 50 years. Um There was no the no He also said that we were dangling a pardon at one point in time. That's nonsense. The very first day. When I was talking to him about what his escape route, that's how he phrased it, was.

He talked about a pardon. He wanted to know if he could get a pardon. I said, Michael, it's ridiculous. You haven't even been charged with a crime. We don't know what it is that they think you might have done.

I said, it's way too premature for any talk of a pardon. But Michael is a nudge and he doesn't drop things like that. And every time I met with him after that, he wanted me to, especially when Rudy Giuliani became Trump's lawyer, he wanted me to call Giuliani and ask him about a pardon. And I kept on telling him the same thing. It's too early.

This is premature. Finally, because he's such a pain in the neck, I said, all right, Michael, I'm going to do it once, but I'm telling you in advance, I know what the answer is going to be. You're going to get shot down, and that'll be the end of it. But because this way, at least, you're not going to ask me anymore.

So I called Giuliani and I told him, listen, I understand it's premature, but Michael is insisting. He wants to know if there's any possibility of him receiving a pardon. Giuliani responded immediately, exactly as I had predicted. He said, The President will not discuss pardons with anybody. don't bring this up again, Bob.

And his tone changed. We're very friendly, but his tone changed. It was clear. I'm going to answer this question once, and I don't want to be bothered by this again.

Now if they thought that Michael Comb was a threat, They could have easily pardoned them. But they didn't.

So did he not he not by the way, his Robert Costello is with us, former legal advisor to Cohen.

So he was he never paid you? Did he owe you money? Like how could you give him all this advice and for free?

Well I'll tell you how that came about. First of all, he wasn't my client. The partner that was with me, it was his client because he knew Michael Cohn. And so financial responsibilities, the way we do it in our firm, is up to the person who brings in the particular client. Michael Cohen testified on Directed that he was given a retainer agreement immediately the first day that we met with him at the Regency Hotel.

Absolute nonsense. In fact, a retainer agreement was given to him by my partner. Probably six, seven days later, I believe there's an email that Demonstrates that.

So it's another lie by Cohn. And what Cohn did, as you'll see, if you reviewed the emails that I gave to the district attorney's office, I kept on telling my partner: look, this guy is slow playing us. I don't think he has any intention of signing the retainer agreement. But he kept on saying he was going to do that, he was going to make an announcement. But I viewed him as just.

Spring nestled on. Uh but I it wasn't my call. He wasn't my client. He was my partner's client. And I just see they put in some your one of your emails quote, I'm sure you saw the news that Rudy's joining the Trump team.

I told you my relationship with Rudy, which could be very useful for you, you wrote in 2018. Right. No, it can't be oh, there's that. No, uh April nineteenth. April nineteenth, twenty eighteen.

Okay, when we met with Michael Cohen on April seventeenth.

So That first day at the Regency Hotel, Rudy Giuliani was not representing Donald Trump. Right. Which is contrary to what Cohn testified.

So, Bob, you you went in front of the grand jury and you said I'd just like to straighten out the record, knowing the grand jury was a layup for prosecution. You went there anyway. And is it because you felt compelled that you knew the truth and you can't believe where this direction was heading, and the pressure on Cohn got him to say whatever was necessary? Yes, that's pretty much it. I was sitting at home watching T V Knowing, by the way, that we had a waiver of the attorney-client privilege.

because Michael Cohn, accused, he tried to lessen his sentence after he pled guilty to eight federal counts. He tried to lessen his sentence stupidly by going down and lying to the assistant U.S. attorneys, telling them that he could give evidence. Of Rudy Giuliani and Bob Costello dangling a pardon in front of him in order to keep his mouth shut.

Well, of course, as I've just explained, the emails and everything completely contradicts that story because it's a lie.

So they called me in. They sent me a copy of the attorney client privilege, called me in to be interviewed by two FBI agents and two assistant U.S. attorneys. At the end of the interview, I had all four of them laughing at the ludicrous stuff that Michael Cohn was alleging because I showed them documentary proof that refuted that.

Okay. That's why the U.S. Attorney's Office never used Michael Cohen again as a witness. That's why, at least one of the reasons why the U.S. Attorney's Office did not give him any cooperation.

credit when it came to his sentencing. Michael Cohen has a very convenient and sketchy, I'll use his term, memory about this stuff. But the documents Tell a different story. Robert, do you if if you were If you were On Donald Trump's defense team, would you call you? I would.

Yes. See, people think the the case is so strong that they've a strong enough case to prove he's not guilty that they should let it rest, and they're worried about other things that you know about this case that could bring the pro give the prosecution more life, resuscitate the prosecution. There's nothing that I know about this case that Could give the prosecution more life. This case is dead. It was dead on arrival.

It never should have been bribe. It should have been dismissed by this judge. He still has an opportunity to do that. But I doubt very much he will do that.

So I don't think there's any downside with me. I think there's only an upside. But it's a judgment call, you know, and I haven't been sitting in court and I have never seen any of these twelve jurors.

So I have no feeling for what those people are like or which way they're leaning or whether they've made facial gestures during the weeks of trial that indicate which way they're leaning. I'm not the right person to ask that. The right person is the Trump team, and they'll make whatever the correct decision is, I'm sure. Um have they even contacted you? Have they contacted you?

Uh I c I can't talk about any contacts with anybody. I'm just I'm going to stay out of that realm. How about this? Is Monday open on your schedule? She clearer.

Monday I will take the train. on the Long Island Railroad into my office. How's that?

So, why? I actually get a car in the morning. I'm also coming from Long Island. I know you're coming from a different town, but it starts with an M.

So, we'll see. But let me ask you now too. The best restaurant in that area is definitely Publicans, by the way. But, Robert. To get into this storm right now, it's definitely going to affect your personal life and your professional life.

What have you thought about I'm sure you thought about that? Oh, sure. I mean, listen, I I thought about that a year ago when I gave the information to the Trump team and the district attorney's office at the same time. A lot of people said to me, Stay out of this. It's not your fight.

You can only get hurt by this. But I said, listen. What about truth and justice here, guys? Don't you think that counts? and they're going after a former President of the United States, I can't sit by on the sidelines and let Michael Cohn lie and not tell the people involved on both sides of the ledger there.

Exactly, the Michael Cohn that we met and what he told us. Because what he was saying on TV was the exact opposite. to what he had told us. At a moment when he was suicidal. I mean, boy, if there's ever a time when you're gonna tell the truth.

When you're so desperate that you're going to kill yourself and somebody says, listen, I have a way out of this. If you've got truthful information on Donald Trump, your problems are solved by the end of the week. He is Robert Costello. Robert Costello, former legal advisor to Michael Cohen, saying, 1-800, call me because I think you need me. And that's for the defense of Donald J.

Trump. Robert Costello, have a great weekend. Thanks so much for your time. Thank you. I'll have a beer at Republicans.

Okay, it's on me. Promise. I got I got my got my Amex there, so just say it. It's on Brian Kilmead. Robert Costello, thank you.

Back in a moment. You're with Brian Kilmead. The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead. Honestly, I feel bad for the jurors, as if jury duty isn't bad enough.

Now they have to listen to a dude's podcast? And who is Michael Cohen's podcast even for? Do the people who hate Trump not have enough content? Is there some guy who's like, I love MSNBC, but it's only on 24 hours a day? It's kind of funny.

That is true. And they did have to listen to his podcast as he just mocked Donald Trump because they try to get him to lose his temper like he always does, and he hasn't.

So they go, Let me just show you what he's really like when he's not pretending to be cool under pressure.

So they had to go listen to that again. The jury did look bored by almost all accounts. Shannon said it again, right? Yeah, but I mean they're the Autonomous are doing the point, like showing how he lacks complete credibility. Right.

Why did he do it? Why did he just keep his mouth shut, testify? Why did he have to make that cartoon? When Rosie O'Donnell is your lifeline to sanity, that's crazy. Look at Instagram.

But do you remember Michael Cohen? Yeah, that's true. Hey, by the way, June 29th, Indianapolis, Indiana, History, Liberty, and Laughs Tour. Go get tickets, VIP opportunities. I can meet you before Shelton Auditorium and Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania, July 27th, BrianKillMe.com.

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