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Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the bottom of this third hour. And of course, you can listen terrestrially. We're all over.
You can also watch on YouTube. That's fun because you can see us do the radio show. We've, um, I've We like dove headfirst into a number of issues today, the Henry Novak. That horrifying story in the UK, and then we were just wrapping up some conversation about everything that happened in Los Angeles. with the elections.
Now you have Spencer Pratt going to a runoff with Karen Bass with the commie.
Somebody who used to live there and he left for Florida. And I feel like he's never going to go back. Our friend Dave Rubin, host of Rubin Report. And he has, he's got an event coming up we're gonna talk to him about. But, Dave, I have to ask you: is there any, would anything ever induce you?
To go back to California. I know Florida's lovely. I mean, I've been to Boca, it's beautiful there. Every place is beautiful, and it's like, it's so curated and manicured, it's scary. But Watching what happened last night, how do you think that's going to, how is that going to all come out in the wash?
Like, do you think Spencer Pratt could win? Yeah, well, for the record, I don't live in Boca, although many people are everywhere, Dave, is nice down there. It's so pretty. No, I'm in Miami and it's gorgeous and it's lovely and things want to live here and it's green and fantastic and free and we have great infrastructure and schools and yes, it's wonderful in Florida. Everyone gets that.
DeSantis is working on the property tax elimination thing. I mean, it's just spectacular here. But to the point of L.A., look, in a weird way, I actually think that this thing going to a runoff right now is the best thing for the country. Can he actually win come November in a runoff? We know that about three out of every four people in L.A.
are Democrats, and it's a huge lift. But the fact that this thing that Spencer Pratt is now, this cultural moment that he's happening and the AI videos, the fact that we're all talking about it and all of that, that is really good that it's going to roll into November because I think that gives a little more juice to Trump and the Republicans as sort of the same party. And Trump and the Republicans are going to need all the help they can get during the midterm.
So I think there's a win. There's sort of a cultural win happening for us right now. Right now, as to your question, no, I would never move back. I had six great years. I had six great years in LA.
And yeah, it was always a little wacky, but there was some cool stuff. You know, LA when done right, and Cali Coast and Beach and Malibu and all that. And the celebrity thing in a small dose can be kind of cool. And the architecture is great, and the hills. That's all great.
But once, I really remember it. I mean, the day COVID started, it all collapsed almost overnight. And for two years, I fought against all of the draconian lunacy. You know, I ended up campaigning with Larry Elder, who was so integral in my waking up politically like 10 years before.
So what a beautiful story that Larry and I not only became great friends, but then I was campaigning to get rid of Gavin Newsom and have Larry Elder be the governor, although that didn't work out. And then I finally just could not take it anymore. And, you know, you know how life is, Dana. There's moments where you want to fight against something and you can give it all to you can give your all. To fight against something.
That's what I was doing in LA. What I have found now, as I am going to turn the ripe old age of 50 this month, is I like fighting for something. And in Florida, I'm fighting to strengthen the things that are good and I want to continue that.
So, look, I don't know that he can win in November, but I know that the fact that people are paying attention to this now, even if you don't care about LA, I think that's good for kind of our people. Yeah, I completely agree. And happy early birthday to you, by the way. Talking with your friend Dave Rubin. You mentioned too, and I that it's better, this works well for Republicans the way that he's, because he's a naturalist.
I've never seen anybody that runs such a disciplined campaign. He is very disciplined on the issues. And I don't know if that has to do with training or that's just who he is, but you mentioned POTUS. This is the catch-22 because his campaign can help POTUS. But if Trump goes in there and endorses him, I think that that's disastrous because you know this better.
I mean, you live there, as you were saying. Angelinos, they don't. Don't really go. I mean, they're all Democrats. I think the last time there was a Republican mayor was like in the early 90s.
That could actually hurt him. No, you know, since I just mentioned Larry Elder in the recall, one of the things that happened during that recall, now that was obviously the gubernatorial recall of Newsom, so not LA City, but just to show you how wacky things are in Cali, most of the ads that were being run by the super PACs against Larry Elder, they didn't even bother to say his name. They would just say Trump-endorsed candidate.
So they knew that if they just dragged Trump involved, I don't even know that it was endorsed, actually. It might have been just Trump aligned, something like that. And so they knew if they could just put up a picture of Larry and Trump, that it would cause a certain amount of Cali people to freak out.
So that is the catch-22 here. On one hand, you can see that Spencer Pratt has some of the markings of what made Trump great 10 years ago. And on the other hand, if he attaches himself too closely, does that push away that kind of marginal liberal that's living in LA that's not even, they're just sort of liberal by default. They live in that city. And they, yes, they're stepping over the homeless people on the way to get the matcha and they're, you know, passing a super meth guy as they're walking into CBS with the carriage and all that stuff.
But at the end, do they go, uh-oh, Trump, I'm going to still put up with this nonsense?
So that's what he's up against. I don't know what the answer is for that for Pratt. Yeah, it's been entertaining to watch that campaign and see how he's just skyrocketing. Rocketed and you know, kind of maybe, maybe, maybe it's a blueprint for other Republicans to follow because he hasn't played in identity politics. He's been straight on the issues, he's been just like super hyper-focused.
And it's been, I mean, with solutions, real solutions. Last question on this. I can't imagine, Dave. Being such a uh partisan zealot That I look at the solutions that are before me in Los Angeles and go, you know what? I mean, I really would love the needles and feces to be totally cleaned up by my kids' school, but I just can't like compromise my own personal brand and vote for anybody other than Karen Bass.
I can't imagine thinking like that. Wow, Dana Lash Valley girl. Very impressive. Oh, that's terrifying. Yeah.
I'm going to have to play some skinner in a minute. Dana, let me give you a personal example that I think will illustrate what you just said. I was there two weeks ago to do a bunch of things in LA. And, you know, you see the homeless stuff everywhere. And it's one layer to see homeless people, but it's the drug stuff too, because they are crumpled over and it's fentanyl, obviously.
There is something now called super meth. Literally, Dr. Drew has talked about this. There is super meth. It's not just meth.
It's just sprawling everywhere. But get this, I'm walking in West Hollywood, which used to be one of, it was like the prime place you would want to live, let's say outside of Beverly Hills. And it was so happened, so many restaurants and bars and nightlife. And it was just a great place to live. And I did live there for a couple of years.
I saw a guy who used to be a well-known producer in the biz. I had dinner with him about a year and a half ago in LA. He's now a full-on junkie. He was hunched over, you know, did this. This thing.
I walked right by him. I did a double take because I couldn't believe it was him, but it was 100% him. And I told some friends that, some colleagues that we're both friends with, because I thought maybe somebody can help the poor guy. But I mentioned that because it's like it's happening to regular people. You know, we think of it as, oh, it's just, I don't know, poor people with drug problems.
But no, it's sprawling and it's everywhere. And what I would say to the rich people that live up in the hills, I don't begrudge you being rich. I don't begrudge you being up in the hills. But if you think that that is going to keep you safe while the rest of the town burns at the bottom of the hill, no, fire goes up. And that's literal and figurative.
Now, that's a great way to put it. Talking with our friend Dave Rubin at Rubin Report on X.
So, real quick before we get into your event that's coming up, I know you've been watching this Henry Novak case. It happened first. This 18-year-old that was stabbed happened back in December of last year, but now the convictions are in. The guy who killed him going away for life, what blows my mind is that, I mean, he stabbed him with this ceremonial. Sikh blade that he carries.
But in Britain, as you know, like you're, if you're, you can't even, if you're in Britain and you're in London and you're going to buy cutlery, you want to get some nice steak knives. You have to be 18 years old, and there's like little, like you basically have to undergo a background check for the most part in order to do it. And they have these knife boxes for people to discard their blades. But if you're a Sikh, you can walk around carrying the blade. Doesn't it make sense that I just think that the whole community needs to go, everybody should carry, or nobody can?
Yeah, you know, look, the Western world does not realize what we have done to ourselves. And unfortunately, in most places, it's probably too late or we haven't hit rock bottom. I toured in Australia at the end of last year, and in Melbourne, Australia, they are having a problem because they brought in all of these people. They are killing people with machetes.
So do you know what the solution was in Melbourne? It was that they would put bins, metal bins, on the corner of the street, so that if you're on your way to murder somebody or stab somebody for no reason, you might have a come to Jesus moment and put your machete in the machete bin. And that, in essence, that's what you're talking about here. None of the solutions they have for this make sense. You can't say to one group of people, okay, you can have a knife and another group of people can't.
And I would also say, I would quote Jordan Peterson from many years ago on Joe Rogan, at the height of wokeness. One of the things that he was talking about was how if you think that the excesses of the left are bad, wait till you see the Reaction on the right. And I think, you know, there's a lot of reasons that there's some weirdness on the right right now. But, you know, if you keep telling people that they're going to be treated worse based on the color of their skin, in this case, white, they are going to have some sort of reaction, if not overreaction. And the UK is not equipped to deal with this.
They are not a melting pot the way we are. Starmer has been horrific across the board. They've acquiesced a lot of their cities and suburbs to these crazy ideas. And I see no real way out of the direction that the UK is going in. I don't either.
And that's the sad thing about this, which is horrifying. You have an event coming up June 11th. It's one night only, the Fillmore in Miami Beach. And you're going to be joining Florida Governor DeSantis, our friend Shapiro. You got Corolla.
You got a bunch of people coming out. I don't want, I mean, I'm an American. I love the processes that we have to elect people, but I kind of want DeSantis to not leave the governor's mansion. A lot of people have said that to me. And I honestly, I will ask him about that on stage.
He's going. He's at the end of his second term. That was kind of why I wanted to do the show in the first place, because, you know, I've gotten to know him in some more casual atmospheres at dinners where afterwards he'll smoke a cigar or, you know, have a whiskey and have his feet up and talk about baseball. And people just haven't seen that version of him. They've seen this incredible, they've seen this unbelievable operator.
They've seen this guy that I think you could really make an argument, in some sense, saved America by what he did with Florida. And now you see the subsequent successes of Florida with all of the money coming down here and the people leaving New York and the property tax thing that he's dealing with right now. There's so much goodness here. And yes, would it be the worst thing in the world if the legislature had been like, you know what, we should probably give this guy one more go around? I don't know that that's what he wants, but I certainly would have supported it.
I think Florida as a whole will be fine afterwards, whether it's Byron Donalds or Jay Collins, our lieutenant governor, they're both all-stars. Florida has set up really good. Really well. But what I wanted the night to be was just a night of fun. I want to celebrate, you know, there's so much doom scrolling these days and panic and stuff, and you get all of it.
And you've been so good fighting a lot of the depression that's happening across the right. And I just wanted it to be a celebration of all of the right things with some of my friends who are, you know, fun and ridiculous. Adam Carolla, obviously on the silly side, and Jillian's a little wacky. We're just going to have a great night. I'm told that there will be some tequila flying around, and we will see what else Florida Man can come up with.
Maybe we'll wrestle an alligator with like a cigar in our mouth and a palm tree right there. You just never know. You know, I've had a Florida Man segment on my show since 2008 when I first started. You guys are going to end up in it, aren't you? You guys are going to end up on my segment.
Just note that, Staff. Just note that, Kane. He's going to end up on it. Yeah, last quick question. Please tell me that you're going to pin him down and be like, are you running for president?
Okay. Yeah, I'll ask. I mean, everyone wants me to ask you. Dave, show all your cards before the event happens. I have a couple other, you know, more sly ones, but look, whatever happens with the Republicans, when you look at this bench, you look at Marco, you look at JD, you look at DeSantis, we could name a couple other names.
It's like these are all competent people that could take what Donald Trump has created and run with it. And maybe this person wants Rubio a little bit more, or this person wants JD. But you know that these people fundamentally like America. There is a sense that they'd keep the ship afloat. And that's all to the backdrop of how insane the Democrats have gone.
So that's why when, and again, you've just been so good fighting some of the excesses of the woke right thing. It's like, guys, okay, so Tucker and Megan, you want to destroy Trump. You want to go after MAGA and split MAGA. Congratulations. We will be communists and we'll be communists soon because if we lose the midterms, Trump's done.
They're going to impeach him and then they will be involved. And the Republicans will start jumping ship, and we will end up with President Gavin Newsome or worse.
So, if that's what you're leading to, and I sort of think that that's actually kind of what Tucker wants, I don't know exactly, Megan just wants clicks, but like, if you guys want to do that, Well, then I guess we have to call you out on it, even though it's not the most fun thing in the world. I know, unfortunately. But it's the business of the country, so it's show business, not show friends.
So that's the way it's got to get handled. Dave Rubin, the event's June 11th, and you can go to DaveRubin.com, right? Events. That's where you can go. You can find out more information about the event, get your tickets, and of course, you can find Dave at RubinReport on X.
Good to see you, my friend. We'll talk again soon. Come out to Dallas sometime. All right, take care. We have more in-store folks, partners that will bring you the program.
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And just so you guys know, we've linked it all, we've linked stuff over if you're a subscriber over at Substack Chapter and Verse. Of course, make sure you follow us, YouTube, Facebook, and you can watch the simulcast on YouTube as well. If you're not listening terrestrially, if you want to watch us do the radio. This Harry Novak, Henry Novak, 18-year-old. In actually Noah, Harry Novak, so I'm like Harry and Henry.
Henry Novak, 18 years old, student in Britain. And I I'm this whole story. I mean, I am still hearing things. I'm shocked.
So what ended up happening is that this story first took place in December of twenty twenty five, but you're really hearing a lot about it now because we've had convictions in the case in the case. Henry Novak, eighteen years old. He was stabbed to death. by 23-year-old Vikram Digwa. Who is uh Sikh, S I K H.
and was carrying this ceremonial Blade. that There, a lot, which I'm going to come back to. Oh my gosh, I have so many things to come back to. He was carrying a ceremonial blade.
Now, and this is in Britain. The reason why I'm bringing that up, and I'm stopping on the blade for a moment, is: do you guys remember? K when was this? Three years ago, four years ago, the knife boxes that they had on street corners all over Britain.
So because they had knife crime incidents But this is okay. I'm going to come back to it. This eighteen year old. Who was stabbed to death. was left to bleed out.
in handcuffs. Because his attacker had told the police That Henry Novak was racist. Because as you know, If you say something that can be triggering, if you misgender someone. If you go to Britney and you say you're gay. That you can actually be arrested.
I'm not exaggerating. at all. That's how they don't have free speech over there. But that's not what happened. None of that happened.
And in fact Uh there was footage on Henry Novak's camera at some point. I'm just wondering if he like clearly felt like he was being threatened, and so he, you know, the only defense that he had was trying to record it on his phone. And apparently, the footage shows that Digwa was very aggressive, trying to come up to him, get into his face. And he was saying, Call me this, like, trying to call it, like, call me, like, he just is nuts. He just targeted this kid.
So He was in his fir he was studying accounting. And it was about 11:30 p.m. He was. Walking in the suburb, he was at the Hobbit pub. He was under the limit, the blood alcohol limit.
He had had like a couple of uh of of pints at the Hobbit pub and was walking back to his residence. And That's when he encountered Digwa, and Digwa was already immediately problematic to the point where. Novak started recording because he just, I mean, isn't that what a lot of people do? If I know that I do, if I feel like, I mean, I always carry. But anytime anything gets tense, or if I'm near a reporter, I will always automatically record.
Always. If a reporter is near me, even if my phone's not out like this, I'm recording.
So He, um Novac. Was kind of like singing a little bit to himself. He was yawning. You know, he was just walking, minding his own business. And then uh Jigwa was walking towards him.
Trying to like challenge him, trying to instigate something. And it culminated with there being five. Stab wounds with his Sikh ceremonial knife, including. Additional wounds to his chest, to his legs, excuse me, and the fatal wound was to his chest.
Some neighbors then called the police. Because they heard Novak calling out that he had been stabbed, there were no eyewitnesses. But it's fun. Novak was trying to get away by climbing into Climbing on top of a trash can or a trash bin and then over a fence. That's how he got the stabs in the legs.
Because as he was trying to get away from Digwa, Digwa pursued him and was continuing to stab him in the legs. Uh so Digwa then called his parents who got there before police. His trash mother, Karen Cower. who was also convicted, she took took the knife and hid it. Gigwa.
Uh Also filmed Novak bleeding out. and trying to flee. and he was recording him as he lay dying. Gloating. When Hampshire police officers arrive, When they arrived, they spoke to Digwa while Novak laid on the ground because he was stabbed and bleeding to death.
Yeah. Novak repeatedly told police officers, I'm having trouble breathing, which then said, I can't breathe. His voice started to fade because his lungs were literally filling up with blood. Digwood told officers that Novak was drunk, punched him and racially slurred him and pulled his turban off. None of that is supported by any of the phone recordings, by the way.
Not a single bit. Digwo was the aggressor, like a thousand percent.
So he lied. Digwa lied about him. made up the whole thing.
So the Officers then pulled Novak, dragged him on the gravel. To the side and handcuffed him. He was denied any kind of immediate care. Police then allowed Digwa to meet with his family members. And in a Apparently, in a recorded conversation, They were speaking Punjabi.
Digwa's brother told him to claim self-defense. But Digwa said, Well, if there's security cameras on the street, that's not going to work.
So All of this, this is how this happened. Novak was not even remotely drunk. He was filming a Snapchat video. When Digwa decided to get aggressive with him, he was like singing and he was on Snapchat. And he was recording.
And then he flipped. to the camera because after Digwa started getting like really aggressive towards him. And nothing in anything supported any of Digwa's story at all whatsoever. Digwa was carrying two ceremonial knives, one is the curepen, and a dagger that he used to stab. No back.
And One of the professors of sociology at a university said there was no good reason why Digwa had the larger blade because it's not a requirement of the faith.
So, the reason all this is in the news is because just a few days ago, there was the verdict. And it rejected the self-defense claim that Digwa had made. He was found guilty of murder. His mother was found guilty of assisting the offender. I don't know why the father and the brother are not also called liable.
Because they were also working with him to hide the murder. The brother was encouraging him to lie. They were trying to concoct a story while Novak was bleeding out. The judge confirmed that Novak had not said anything remotely racist. He was literally just.
recording a Snapchat video, Digwa had no injuries. He said that Digwa had, quote, given a quote, convincing but wholly false narrative of the incident. The judge told Digwa that he brought shame on his family and brought shame on other Sikhs and caused racial tension. He gave him a life sentence with a minimum term of 21 years. I think Digwa deserves a bullet in the head.
I think it's a gross miscarriage of justice that he and his mother are living. And his entire family deserves the punishment because they are all culpable. You're going to get more things like this unless you have harsher penalties for barbarians. And This is, I mean. Insane.
Now, the brother ultimately, now this was only like a day ago, got charged later on they came out that they got charged with minor weapons offenses. I don't. I, what in the hell is going on in the UK with police?
Now, remember, this is the same. These are the same police in the Britain. where they were covering up the systematic rape. Remember in Rotherham? 1400 women and girls.
over an 18-year period. who were targeted and raped and trafficked by Pakistani men, And remember, the reason that that story came, that it was hidden for so long. They admitted that they did not want to be seen as racists. That's why they didn't say anything. Do you remember?
The terror attack that took place at the center, what was it, outside of San Bernardino Cain, where they were having a little Christmas party? Yeah. And let me look this up. There was a couple. And They made they made like weapons and stuff in their garage.
Yeah, San Bernardino. It was in 2015. The two terrorists in that case, Tashfin Malik and Sied Farouk. Do you remember the neighbors? We played this audio when it happened.
They were they ended up telling a local reporter that they were always suspicious of the couple because the couple was constantly like getting deliveries and they were building all kinds of crazy they were building bombs and stuff in their garage, in their alleyway. But the neighbor said, none of us wanted to say anything because we don't want to be called racists. Keep that on the burner. Look at 2020 COVID breakout in Italy. right in Italy, in the Predo region.
where you had direct flights from Wuhan to Prato, that's a big textile industry. The governor of that principality had said that the reason that they didn't speak out when they noticed people getting super sick was because it was first exploded amongst the Chinese diaspora because they didn't want to be considered racist because they were fighting an illegal immigration battle there eight years prior. And the Chinese immigrants were calling the Italians racist for criticizing the fact that they were buying these family-owned businesses and running sweatshops with illegal Chinese immigrants. And so they had a big bust up and they cowed the Italians into silence. And so the Italians said that, Google it, they had said that the reason that they did not say anything when all of that broke out is because they didn't want to be looked at as racist.
Now you're here. Look at Rotherham. The reason that people, including law enforcement and lawmakers, they didn't speak out is because they did not want to be viewed as being racists, because the people who were doing the trafficking and the raping were brown. And now you have this kid. Who has had to give his life Sacrifice it on the altar of race.
And the police? cuffed him. They refused to even look at his injuries. And they let him bleed to death. And it is not an exaggeration.
The last thing that this kid heard. as the light faded out of his eyes. Were the cops reading his rights to him? and consoling his murderer. I don't think that there could be enough people that could get into the streets over this.
Henry Novak is Britain. and all of their policies. There completely, absolutely unmitigated. Immigration, legal and illegal. Their policies regarding Sharia.
There's socialism, everything. Is this Digwa murderer? They are murdering themselves. These are people who cannot even protect their women and girls. They cannot protect their youth.
Do you remember the little girl? in Scotland who was being targeted. And she had a knife and bared it towards this adult 30-something illegal immigrant who was trying to proposition her sister because he was a pedophile. This little bautica. And she bore a blade and he was recording her 'cause he wouldn't leave her alone.
And law enforcement was trying to give this kid a hard time. I'm telling you. At some point, there has to be a reckoning. Because what's going to happen is, this stuff is going to get to the point where it cannot be solved civilly. It's not going to be solved in courtrooms.
It's not going to be solved in parliamentary chambers, and it will not be solved in elections. It's going to be solved in the streets. with blood and violence. Is that what they want because this is what they're gearing up for? We have a lot more on the way.
We're not done with the story because Kier Starmer now says, no, no, no. You all can't even have steak knives in your apartments in London. But if you're Sikh you can carry a blade like this man. He said this yesterday. We're going to get into all of that and more as we move.
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You had XTC making plans for Nigel, and then yeah, you have Jeremy by Pearl Jam, which is going to be one of the rare times that I play Pearl Jam on this show. But there was a good song. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. It is a serious thing that I want to go back to the first thing that I was talking about, like the Weimar moment.
And it was a piece that was written by a Brit, and it was an editorial about the state of the UK for the Washington Examiner. But there are so many. Similarities between what they're going through and then the conditions here in the United States. And I think people need to pay attention to this. Everybody gets so hyper-focused on policy coming out of DC, not to say that it's unimportant, but there's something that's bubbling underneath the policy.
And there's something, it's bubbling up out into suburban streets, and it's bubbling up out in rural towns, and it's bubbling up in the schools and the universities, and it's everywhere. I think there are multiple stratagems that are being employed against the West to foment division and try to upset the stability that we have for so long enjoyed as the leader of the free world, being a free nation. You have the Red-Green Alliance where you have the Communists and the Islamists working together. And notice, and I made this point, and I'm going to try to watch my words on this. I made this point to Kane.
that for all of the talk From podcast to Stan. and all of the grift. And all of the mouth spittle and all of the circle jerk that these people get involved in. All of them go on each other's shows and they all do this: the cable cast offs and the Eurotrash rejects and the sex traffickers and everyone else. Not a single one of these bloviating, just Absolutely ridiculous, alcoholic, red-faced, pocked mark people.
Not a single one of them have said a single utterance about this story. coming out of Britain. Not a one. Not one. Because they're fluffing Russia right now.
Podcastistan is just a glorified OnlyFans for cable news rejects who are trying to somehow. make a grift to take the place of their cable p their cable paychecks. It's only fans for morons. That's what it is. As evidenced by the fact that they're all taking a simultaneous field trip to Russia.
to fluff the communist regime. And everyone's supposed to politely applaud and say, oh, wow, look at you uncovering so many things. They're going and being shown the same thing that everyone else is being shown when they go over there. And they're looking at the same monuments and they're going to the same squares and they're meeting the same people and they're staying in the same places and they're going to the same restaurants while acting as though they have the liberty to choose all these things for themselves, which therein is the hilarity. But not a single Sing.
How about this?
Now I made mention. in this Harry Novak case. this 18 year old and I think the reason one of the reasons that You get I think people get so angry when they see these stories. This was a young 18-year-old man who was studying accounting and had his whole life ahead of him. I mean, I have kids this age.
You see your kids in every kid. That's like That's one of the glories and also the curse of parenthood. Because every uh you see your kid and every kid. I can't even imagine. The and the and this Uh individual who attacked him, this 23-year-old man.
and stabbed him and then made up the story while the cops let him ble bleed out. Because it was about race. They believed the racial lie that was told. by this Digwa character. who stabbed him with his ceremonial knife that he's allowed to carry.
And the mom hid the knife and the dad and the brother were also trying to hide it and do all this. And the convictions just came down a couple of days ago. This happened in December of twenty five, but the convictions just came in, which is why it's a big story right now. Yeah. But there's a lot to say about this.
In the United States, people took a knee for George Floyd. People took a need for George Floyd in London. I think we have some video when, and Tommy Robinson was talking about this. They took a knee. For George Floyd in Britain.
Watch this. That's really good. On the other side of the water. The Sergeant Government is unbelievable. Oh, and there he takes the knee.
Henry Novick was British. And his treatment That he received at the hands of the police was one of the most negligent, cruel things I think I've ever seen. Nobody's haven't, there's been no public campaign on his behalf. There's been, nobody's taken a knee for him. They didn't hold a moment of silence for him in parliament.
Right? You couldn't, during the BLM days, you could not say all lives matter, could you? Cain, what happened? If you said. All lives matter.
You were a bigot at that point. Because it was, you couldn't say all lives matter, because it was interpreted as you're denying that lives matter. because some apparently matter more than others. Constantine Christen had said, and I love the way he put this, he said, There Talking about all of these activists, they have created a racial hierarchy of victimhood. We're a career criminal.
Pooh Dealt with police in a foreign country, zero evidence of racism. This guy, a career criminal, because this guy who stabbed Henry Novak was known to police, by the way. Zero evidence of racism. The police immediately sanctified him because of the color of his skin. And Henry Novak was dismissed because of the color of his skin.
I mean, this is What we're seeing here, this is the, it's, it's, It is a two-tier police system. Policing, Nigel Farage, if we can play this, he was in Parliament. Oh, I want you to listen. And if you're watching the Somalcast, I want you to watch the faces of some of these far-left Labor Party members of parliament that are sitting around him. And I want you to watch their reaction to what he says.
If you're listening, I want you to listen. to the boos and the hisses and the eruptions. from the other lefty people. Because Farages. Is stating what we all know.
There is a two-tier system of justice, not just in the United States either, in Britain. In France. In Norway, it is insane. And I just I want you to listen. to the vultures that are hissing.
And trying to drown out his remarks. Oh my gosh, and the faces, especially when Farage stands up to your right over his shoulder. I want you to watch the one guy who gets this. He looks like a normal, he looks like an ordinary bloke. And then he starts screwing up his face looking real hateful.
Watch this. Under circumstances of Henry Novak's death. Can I urge the Prime Minister to consider this? It is now clear to growing millions in this country. That we're living under two-tier policing.
The instructions that are given to police officers. from police bosses are clear and written down in ink. It says you must treat different ethnic groups in different ways. Apart from the upset and the anger at the circumstances of his death, The anger that you saw. Spilling out in Southampton last night.
I will condemn the violence, which is in danger of getting considerably worse. lose trust. If the public lose trust in being treated fairly by the police, can he take some action, end this divisive practice of two-tier policing and make sure that all British citizens are treated the same? Condemn the violence. These people have not condemned the hunting of youth.
By Islamists in the streets of their country. That's dumb broad. Condemn the violence. Condemn your face. Nothing.
These people didn't condemn what happened to Rotherham. Remember when you had the West Midlands police in 2025, they told the Birmingham Safety Advisory Group that they had to ban Israeli football fans from going to a match in the city. because it was considered high risk because of the Islamists. Condemn that. No, here's the problem.
All right. Say this, knowing full well that we're coming up on July 4th in this country. I'll remind everyone: this is a country that was founded on beer and kicking ass. Mm-hmm. When you do not have Equally applied law and order.
Expect violence. When you Do not equally. Fairly. impartially. Apply, law and order.
I promise you. You will most deservedly. Get violence. I wouldn't condemn anything. Because they deserve the reckoning that they have raised up in the streets.
That's, we have to stop cowering. From lawmakers. Remember, in this country, There's an uncomfortable reality that the left doesn't want to admit. And that is this, the relationship between a people and its elected representatives. Is Attenuous.
Relationship. One order. That's what this republic is: everyone equal before the law, and everyone equal beneath it when it's violated. People the elected class should live without healthy fear. of the people they represent.
And in the meantime, You're ser you're seeing that not happen in Britain.
So now they're not going to ban anyone.
Now, in Britain, let me put this out here. You If you're going to buy a steak knife, you can't in Britain. You've got to be 18. If you're living on your own. Young adult?
If you wanted to go buy a steak knife to cut your meat, you can't. You can't carry a knife. I had a post, when was this? From 2019. Where They uh began putting these knife boxes on all the street corners.
Because they told people you can't carry knives, you can't have knives, no switchblades. Even if you have a too big of a steak knife, come and bring it and drop it in this box. And then, of course, criminals were like free knives. And they went and they raided all these boxes. No, this guy that stabbed the eighteen year old, he had a knife that would have been banned had he not been sick.
But he seeks how it's allowed. Kier Starmer has affirmed that they're not going to ban. Carrying any of those weapons by that particular religious group.
Now, I have nothing against Sikhs, I think that they're natural allies against people that dislike Islam. and Islamists. Check their history. This is still, regardless of that, a two tier system of justice. Listen to this that came out of their parliament just late yesterday.
They're not banning anybody from carrying these knives, including the exact one that was used in Harry and Henry Novak's murder. Listen. In relation to knife controls, there have been calls to limit the right of Sikhs to carry their ceremonial knife, the kirban, one of the five holy items in their faith. The Offensive Weapons Act of 2019, passed under the previous government, clarified and strengthened existing legal protections in relation to long kerpans. This included extending defences so that kerpans can be lawfully possessed for religious reasons and used in religious and ceremonial contexts.
By the way, does that woman look familiar to you? That's the woman, by the way, that had banned Hassan Piker and his chonky uncle. You know, and they said it was the Jews. She's Pakistani. Just pointing that out.
So they get to carry those knives. Interesting.
Now, in the meantime, Tommy Robinson pointed out: you know, we had played to you that police had previously taken a knee for George Floyd. They refused to do so for Henry Novak. He had it on video. We can't play actually any of the audio because there's a lot of cussing. But I wanted to point out, too, what's interesting about this is that you have.
A black British man and a white British man, both assailing. You can go ahead and play it. This officer. Who refused to take the knee and they said you took the knee you guys took the knee for floyd But you didn't do it for this? And they are in they are talking this is South this is Southampton.
They were saying, why don't you take the knee like y'all did for George Floyd, the career criminal who is on drugs? I'm telling you something. Britain better get its act together. They need to get their act together. And by the way, one of the things that came out in the investigation, and I know we got to get going.
I have so much on this. He, Henry Novak, he was in custody for 67 minutes. Right after he had been stabbed. 60 of the well, 67 minutes after he'd been stabbed, that's how long it took him to die. 60 of the 67 minutes, according to all of the court documents.
He spent dying in custody with cuffs. No care rendered. Because Digwa had accused him of racism, falsely. Digwa gets three hots in a cot for the rest of his life. I think he should be hung publicly.
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And just so you guys know, we've linked it all. We've linked stuff over. If you're a subscriber over at Substack Chapter and Verse, of course, make sure you follow us, YouTube, Facebook, and you can watch the simulcast on YouTube as well. If you're not listening terrestrially, if you want to watch us do the radio. This um Harry Novak, Henry Novak, uh 18 year old.
In actually Noah, Harry Novak, so I'm like Harry and Henry. Henry Novak, 18 years old, student in Britain. And I I'm this whole story. I mean, I am still hearing things. I'm shocked.
So what ended up happening is that this story first took place in December of twenty twenty five, but you're really hearing a lot about it now because we've had convictions in the case in the case. Henry Novak, eighteen years old. He Was stabbed to death by twenty-three-year-old Vikram Digwa. who is uh Sikh, S I K H. and was carrying this ceremonial Blade.
that There, a lot, which I'm going to come back to. Oh my gosh, I have so many things to come back to. He was carrying a ceremonial blade.
Now, and this is in Britain. The reason why I'm bringing that up, and I'm stopping on the blade for a moment, is: do you guys remember? Okay, when was this? Three years ago, four years ago, the knife boxes that they had on street corners all over Britain.
So because they had knife crime incidents But this is okay. I'm going to come back to it. This eighteen year old. Who was stabbed to death. was left to bleed out.
in handcuffs. Because his attacker had told the police That Henry Novak was racist. Because as you know, If you say something that can be triggering, if you misgender someone. If you go to Britain and you say you're gay. That you can actually be arrested.
I'm not exaggerating. at all. That's how they don't have free speech over there. But that's not what happened. None of that happened.
And in fact Uh, there was footage on Henry Novak's camera at some point. I'm just wondering if he clearly felt like he was being threatened, and so he, you know, the only defense that he had was trying to record it on his phone. And apparently, the footage shows that Digwa was very aggressive, trying to come up to him, get into his face. And he was saying, Call me this, like, trying to call it, like, call me, like, he just is nuts. He just targeted this kid.
So He was in his first he was studying accounting. And it was about 11:30 p.m. He was. Walking in the suburb, he was at the Hobbit Pub. He was under the limit, the blood alcohol limit.
He'd had like a couple of uh of of pints at the Hobbit pub and was walking back to his residence. And That's when he encountered Digwa. And Digwa was already immediately problematic to the point where. Novak started recording because he just, I mean, isn't that what a lot of people do? If I know that I do, if I feel like I mean, I always carry.
But anytime anything gets tense, or if I'm near a reporter, I will always automatically record. Always. If a reporter is near me, even if my phone's not out like this, I'm recording.
So He, um Novac. was Kind of like singing a little bit to himself. He was yawning. You know, he was just walking, minding his own business. And then uh Jigwa was walking towards him.
Trying to like challenge him, trying to instigate something. And it culminated with there being five stab wounds with his Sikh ceremonial knife, including. Additional wounds to his chest, or to his legs, excuse me, and the fatal wound was to his chest.
So neighbors then called the police. Because they heard Novak calling out that he had been stabbed, there were no eyewitnesses. But it's fun. Novak was trying to get away by climbing into Climbing on top of a trash can or a trash bin and then over a fence. That's how he got the stabs in the legs.
Because as he was trying to get away from Digwa, Digwa pursued him and was continuing to stab him in the legs. Uh so Digwa then called his parents who got there before police. His trash mother, Kieran Cower. who was also convicted, she took took the knife and hid it. Jigwa.
Uh also filmed Novak bleeding out. and trying to flee. and he was recording him as he lay dying. Gloating. When The Hampshire police officers arrive.
When they arrived, they spoke to Digwa while Novak laid on the ground because he was stabbed and bleeding to death. Novak repeatedly told police officers, I'm having trouble breathing, which then said, I can't breathe. His voice started to fade because his lungs were literally filling up with blood. Digwood told officers that Novak was drunk, punched him and racially slurred him and pulled his turban off. None of that is supported by any of the phone recordings, by the way.
Not a single bit. Digwo was the aggressor. A thousand percent.
So he lied. Digwa lied about him. made up the whole thing.
So the Officers then pulled Novak, dragged him on the gravel. To the side and handcuffed him. He was denied any kind of immediate care. Police then allowed Digwa to meet with his family members. Okay.
And in a Apparently, in a recorded conversation, They were speaking Punjabi. Digwa's brother told him to claim self-defense. But Digwa said, well, if there's security cameras on the street, that's not going to work.
So All of this, this is how this happened. Novak was not even remotely drunk. He was filming a Snapchat video. When Digwatt decided to get aggressive with him, he was like singing and he was on Snapchat. And he was recording.
And then he flipped. the camera beca after Digwa started getting like really aggressive towards him. And nothing in anything supported any of Digwa's story at all whatsoever. Digwa was carrying two ceremonial knives, one as the curepen, and a dagger that he used to stab. Novak.
And One of the professors of sociology at a university said there was no good reason why Digwa had the larger blade because it's not a requirement of the faith.
So, the reason all this is in the news is because just a few days ago, there was the verdict. And it rejected the self-defense claim that Digwa had made. He was found guilty of murder. His mother was found guilty of assisting the offender. I don't know why the father and the brother are not also liable.
Because they were also working with him to hide the murder. The brother was encouraging him to lie. They were trying to concoct a story while Novak was bleeding out. The judge confirmed that Novak had not said anything remotely racist. He was literally just.
recording a Snapchat video, Digwa had no injuries. He said that Digwa had, quote, given a quote, convincing but wholly false narrative of the incident. The judge told Digwa that he brought shame on his family and brought shame on other Sikhs and caused racial tension. He gave him a life sentence with a minimum term of 21 years. I think Digwa deserves a bullet in the head.
I think it's a gross miscarriage of justice that he and his mother are living. And his entire family deserves the punishment because they are all culpable. You're going to get more things like this unless you have harsher penalties for barbarians. And This is, I mean. Insane.
Now the brother ultimately, now this was only like a day ago. Got charged later on, they came out that they got charged with minor weapons offenses. I don't. I, what in the hell is going on in the UK with police?
Now, remember, this is the same. These are the same police in the Britain. where they were covering up the systematic rape. Remember in Rotherham? 1,400 women and girls.
over an 18-year period. who were targeted and raped and trafficked by Pakistani men, And remember, the reason that that story came, that it was hidden for so long. They admitted that they did not want to be seen as racists. That's why they didn't say anything. Do you remember?
The terror attack that took place at the center, what was it, outside of San Bernardino came where they were having a little Christmas party? Yeah. And let me look this up. There was a couple. And They made b they made like weapons and stuff in their garage.
Yeah, San Bernardino. It was in 2015. The two terrorists in that case, Tashfin Malik and Sied Farouk. Do you remember the neighbors? We played this audio when it happened.
They were they ended up telling a local reporter that they were always suspicious of the couple because the couple was constantly like getting deliveries and they were building all kinds of crazy they were building bombs and stuff in their garage, in their alleyway. But the neighbors said none of us wanted to say anything because we don't want to be called racists. Keep that on the burner. Look at 2020 COVID breakout in Italy. Right?
In Italy, in the Predo region. where you had direct flights from Wuhan to Preto, that's a big textile industry. The governor of that principality had said that the reason that they didn't speak out when they noticed people getting super sick was because it was first exploded amongst the Chinese diaspora because they didn't want to be considered racist because they were fighting an illegal immigration battle there eight years prior. And the Chinese immigrants were calling the Italians racist for criticizing the fact that they were buying these family-owned businesses and running sweatshops with illegal Chinese immigrants. And so they had a big bust-up and they cowed the Italians into silence.
And so the Italians said that, Google it, they had said that the reason that they did not say anything when all of that broke out is because they didn't want to be looked at as racist.
Now you're here. Look at Rotherham. The reason that people, including law enforcement and lawmakers, they didn't speak out is because they did not want to be viewed as being racists, because the people who were doing the trafficking and the raping were brown. And now you have this kid. who has had to give his life.
Sacrifice it on the altar of race. And the police. cuffed him. They refused to even look at his injuries. And they let him bleed to death.
And it is not an exaggeration. The last thing that this kid heard. as the light faded out of his eyes. Were the cops reading his rights to him? and consoling his murderer.
I don't think that there could be enough people that could get into the streets over this. Henry Novak is Britain. and all of their policies. They're completely, absolutely unmitigated. Immigration, legal and illegal.
Their policies regarding Sharia. There's socialism, everything. Is this Digwa murderer? They are murdering themselves. These are people who cannot even protect their women and girls.
They cannot protect their youth. Do you remember the little girl? in Scotland who is being targeted. And she had a knife and bared it towards this adult 30-something illegal immigrant who was trying to proposition her sister because he was a pedophile. This little bautica.
And she bore a blade and he was recording her 'cause he wouldn't leave her alone. And law enforcement was trying to give this kid a hard time. I'm telling you. At some point, there has to be a reckoning. Because what's going to happen is, this stuff is going to get to the point where it cannot be solved civilly.
It's not going to be solved in courtrooms. It's not going to be solved in parliamentary chambers, and it will not be solved in elections. It's going to be solved in the streets. with blood and violence. Is that what they want because this is what they're gearing up for?
We have a lot more on the way. We're not done with this story because Kier Starmer now says, no, no, no. You all can't even have steak knives in your apartments in London. But if you're Sikh you can carry a blade like this man. He said this yesterday.
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So apparently, the mystery is deepening over King Tut's alien glass after this reported stunning discovery. This from just some British publication because I hate them and I'm not going to mention them. It's apparently it was mysterious alien glass in northern Africa. It's uncovered new clues about the violent event that goes blah blah blah. Libyan desert glass, right?
It's scattered around Egypt and Libya. That's why it's called Libyan Desert Glass. And they think it formed during an extreme cosmic event about 29 million years ago. Blah, blah, blah. It's a rare zircon structure hidden inside the glass that formed after the mineral completely melted and rapidly crystallized again.
So it suggests that the glass was exposed to temperatures exceeding well over 4,000 degrees Fahrenheit. Hot enough to melt this very durable mineral.
So they think that the crystal preserved a microscopic record of that event. And they cannot figure, nor can they agree with about theories even on what happened.
Some think that it was an asteroid, some say a space rock exploded in the atmosphere, but it's very, very interesting. And it's apparently they like used some of it in jewelry. That's very crazy.
So, anyway, interesting. Black Crows, I'm gonna come back to this. Black Crow singer. I don't know why he just can't, don't sit here and act like you're a hippie when you act like a meth head, like a tweaked-out meth head.
So, they had their show. This was a couple of days ago. They had their show, and then they had like a thing of Uncle Sam projected behind them when they were on stage. And their lead singer, who's Kate Hudson's ex-ex-husband, Chris Robinson. Got real mad because people saw the Uncle Sam character and started chanting USA.
and he began attacking his audience. And he said that he goes, yeah, thanks for the geography lesson. And he said, you know, that he doesn't understand what they have to be so proud of right now. And then he goes, for those of you boo-booing us, we're not afraid. Wow.
Why do you why do that?
So someone goes, Well, the reaction's consistent with a rebellious tradition. You sound like a square that I would bully in school, deservedly. That person who gave that quote needs to be bullied to the point where they never want to show their face in public again. We need to have severe penalties for stupidity. That's not rebellion.
That's being a douchebag. That's what that is. Rebellious, you don't attack your audience. You don't attack your audience because they were like, oh, yeah, USA. And if you don't have anything to be proud of here, you can go back to whatever third world hellhole it looks like you crawled out from in the first place.
Bye. Like, when was your last hit? Oh, that's right. Anyway. Where do they even play?
Side stages? Oh, I am in a mood. Yeah, let's do it. Let's see here. George Santos, insider trading on calci.
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Meanwhile, in Maine, you got Graham Plattner, who still is enjoying. support from Chuck Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand. The guy who is legit, like had the knots, an actual like SS tattoo on his chest. And also was like sexting questionably age-appropriate people on kick. Surprised he's not on Roblox.
I said that yesterday, but I swear to you, he probably is. I wouldn't doubt it. But They I mean All of this. How is this guy still? I mean, there's another Democrat in the primary, Janet Mills, but they've just tossed her to the wolves.
We'll look at more of this tomorrow because there are elections coming up. All right. In the meantime, today and stupidity came. Yeah, you know, I want to talk about that, actually. NBC talks about how the votes in LA are going to take days, possibly weeks, before we get final.
So let's just play that. Cut 26-1. This is, to me, I think this is really stupid. I think it's very stupid. Remember, the final piece of the puzzle that we won't know tonight, right, is the late-arriving vote by mail.
And we're talking about probably like a third of the vote in Los Angeles. We're probably not going to be getting until tomorrow and maybe days to come after tomorrow. The mail can still come in after election day. And there's indications, and there's certainly a ton of precedent here, that that late-arriving vote by mail is going to be significantly more Democratic-friendly. You know, in Texas, we like to get all of our stuff done, and you know exactly by the time dinner's over what the results are.
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