DeSantis out: Now Trump v. Haley in New Hampshire

From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian, kill me. Everyone on the road in New Hampshire, believe the guy with the very deep voice. As I tell you, we are on the road where it's real cold, but it's cold winter. Not nearly as bad, I understand, from everyone telling me how bad Iowa was.

But this should not be a hindrance to. To the primary, which is 24 hours away. This hour going to be joined by Charles Payne. He's going to be here in the studio in New Hampshire. He's the host of Making Money, and we'll be taking your calls at 1-866-408-7669.

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So, before we get started, let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three: What you have is a systematic attempt to use their power to set up a series of obstacles so significant that they believe it would tear down the opposition that they fear would take their power from them. There you go. That was Brett Tolman. Trump on trial, the corruption involved in the Georgia case and the latest chapter in the Eugene Carroll case.

It's clear there is a mission to stop Trump any way possible. How could you say you want to match up with Trump in the fall, but yet try to destroy him through the winter? Number two. President Biden has the strongest record to run on that we've seen in a very long time in this country. There is a lot of anxiety in this country about prices.

That's why we need to continue the work that we've done. Senator Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire, the Democrat, obviously, 33%. That's the new embarrassing approval rating of the President of the United States. It's the all-time lowest of any sitting president. With that terrible decision to skip the New Hampshire primary, it dissed a valuable state that he needs if he wants to win the Electoral College.

We're going to look at Dean Phillips' hopes and a no-labels future. The Dems are showing signs of panic. Number Wrong. I am today suspending my campaign. It's clear to me that a majority of Republican primary voters want to give Donald Trump another chance.

I signed a pledge to support the Republican nominee, and I will honor that pledge. He has my endorsement. Yep, there he goes. Governor DeSantis is out, and he's in for Trump. Then there were two.

Haley's holding on and hoping for a miraculous win in New Hampshire when the feeling on the ground and the polls screams Trump with just hours to go until we can finally get the voting underway. And that's really it. I mean, if you look at the polls right now, real clear average is 5437 Trump. If you look at the advantage that he had in Iowa, it's a 30-point win. People want to talk about the turnout, but when it's faded complete and it's minus 12 degrees, you have to wonder, as tough as these Iowa people were, did they think twice about coming out to caucus?

And now in New Hampshire, I think it'll be a different story. I think the turnout will be high. That will wipe out a talking point. 62% of the people found in New Hampshire voters who selected DeSantis will most likely go with Trump. 30% say they'll go with Haley.

Here's how it sounded as Ron DeSantis called it quits. Cut one. I am today suspending my campaign. Okay. I'm proud to have delivered on one hundred percent of my promises, and I will not stop now.

It's clear to me that a majority of Republican primary voters want to give Donald Trump another chance. Trump is superior to the current incumbent, Joe Biden. That is clear. I signed a pledge to support the Republican nominee, and I will honor that pledge. He has my endorsement because we can't go back to the old Republican guard of yesteryear.

A repackage formed of warmed over corporatism that Nikki Haley represents. See, I don't think she represents that. I think I feel as though he sees more eye to eye with Trump. But I don't think Nikki Haley, if you don't want Nikki Haley, that's fine. But don't think it's because she's too moderate for you.

She happens to be a candidate more palatable to moderates. It doesn't mean she's more moderate. She's considered a Tea Party conservative. That's how she got the job and upset everyone in South Carolina. But when the President of the United States, former President of the United States, took all those South Carolina lawmakers and Senator Tim Scott and Governor McMaster and rolled them all out, it was almost as if to say, I'm going to beat you in New Hampshire and it's not going to get any better for you in South Carolina.

Think twice. That I thought was a really good move. Here's what Trump had to say about Nikki Haley, cut five. The radical left Democrats are supporting Nikki for a very simple reason, because they know she's easy to beat. She they came out with a poll two days ago where she's way down to Biden and I'm way up on Biden, and that's the way it is.

She's unelectable.

Well, let's see. There's so many analysis, there's so many so-called experts weighing in. Here's Nikki Haley, though, taking on Donald Trump, who's now setting his sights on her. Cut 12. But this goes back to a pattern.

I mean, we saw this over and over again. It's not just that. He congratulated China's President Xi. A dozen times after China gave us COVID. He congratulated the Chinese Communist Party on their 70th anniversary.

We don't congratulate the Communist Chinese Party. I remember at the United Nations, I had to sit him down and tell him to stop this romance with Putin. I mean, you can't have someone who's trying to buddy up with dictators that want to kill us. Instead, you have to let them know what we expect of them. Just interesting to get all these perspectives.

She is not backing down. She brought up his mental health, that he's too old. She brought up she didn't like that she had to sit him down and say, stop at the bromance with Vladimir Putin.

So that is not somebody that says, let me pull back and become vice president. I don't see it. But I sat down with Pierce Morgan on Saturday, and one of the main reasons I thought he was so valuable to lead the show with is because I want to get a perspective from overseas. What do they think about him in England? What do they think about in France?

What do they think about over in NATO? And here's what Pierce Morgan said about what he's seen so far that's even shocked him. Cut 18. Sinatra was thrown to the wolves in the late 40s, thought his career was over, all done and dusted. And then, boom, he comes back from here to eternity.

He wins an Oscar for best supporting actor, and his career becomes one of the most iconic in the history of American celebrity show business. Donald Trump. is on the verge of pulling off a similar comeback. Because I think if it's Trump v. Biden, I think right now, looking at all the polling for Biden, looking at the state of him, unable to basically string a sentence together or walk in a straight line without falling over, my money would be on Donald Trump to win.

And if he gets back in the White House, it is the greatest comeback in American political history. Right. And I think Pierce Morgan, that's why he's a great broadcaster. He likes to boil things down and put it in perspective. And meanwhile, he thought when he was at Mar-a-Lago and interviewed him and they had that explosive interview, he said, well, I'm pretty sure Donald Trump is done.

And he admits he was wrong. But that's what makes him so fascinating. And Trump's so interesting. They'll be talking, whatever you think of Donald Trump, they'll be talking about it for the next hundred years. Listen, when we come back, we're going to be joined by Ben Midlik.

He's the CEO and founder of Crunch Fitness. He's right from this area, knows what the people here think, knows the value and the patriotism that runs through places like New Hampshire. We'll talk to him. And the bottom of the hour, Charles Payne, and then open up the phones. We'll continue to follow the news.

There was a poll that just came out. I'm going to share with you at the top of the hour because it is even more very good news for Donald Trump. You're listening to the Brian Killmeat show. On the road to 2024, the New Hampshire primary. Trump is superior to the current incumbent, Joe Biden.

He has my endorsement. He was very gracious, and he endorsed me. I appreciate it. The two-person race is on. He's just not at the same level he was at 2016.

I think we're seeing some of that. Keep it here on the Brian Kill Meet Show. Hi, everyone. This is Brian Killme. The new year is here, and there's no better time than now to eliminate your personal or business tax issues.

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If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. Hey, welcome back. We're in a beautiful area right here in New Hampshire, and we're having a great time knowing we're counting down to the big primary. Where, if you talk to anybody about the issues that matter most, it's number one for Republicans is immigration, number two is the economy.

For Democrats, it's the economy. Number two is immigration. Ben Midley is somebody with knee-deep in our economy. He's the CEO and founding partner of Crunch Fitness, now franchising.

Now, the franchises come out of Portsmouth, Ben, right? But you were founded in New York City, the first Crunch ever? Yeah, First Crunch was in the East Village of New York about just over 30 years ago. Wow. And then what was the image of Crunch back then?

And why did you think it was ripe for franchising?

Well, Crunch Fitness years ago was founded on a philosophy of no judgments, which is really our background.

So everyone's welcome at the club, and we try to make everyone feel as comfortable as possible as they can, which working out in health clubs sometimes is an intimidating thing for people to do, to get in there and start working out with folks if you're not in shape or you don't know what you're doing.

So Crunch really founded the movement to make sure people feel comfortable around any environment. And the company grew to about 30 clubs all the way through about 2010. And then in 2010, the company went through a bit of a bankruptcy at that point. It was pre-planned and then re-emerged. And we started the franchise company in 2010.

And when the company came out of bankruptcy, we had about 28 clubs. Since then, we've sort of reinvigorated the brand, and now we've grown to about 460 clubs. And we just recently were named the number one fitness franchise on the Entrepreneur 500. We've got about. 2.5 million members, 41 states and 6 countries now.

Wow, how does that feel? It feels fantastic. I mean, we've got a wonderful group of franchisees. We've got a tremendous team inside of Crunch and 2.5 million loyal members who really are raving fans. You've heard that term before about the business.

And we've grown about 70 to 80 percent in membership growth since our pre-COVID numbers, which is really better than any other fitness company out there. Have you come back from COVID? We were actually the only fitness company who grew our membership during COVID worldwide.

So that's really a big accolade for us. And that's because the franchisees did such a great job. And we tilted towards streaming right away. We already had that service for our members, so we had a lot of ways to keep our members engaged. But since then, the membership has grown dramatically.

We far outpaced any of our competitors in the industry.

So we're about 70-80% up over pre-COVID numbers right now.

So tell me about Portsmouth, New Hampshire. What do people care about here?

Well, Portsmouth, I'm from Maine, and we work out of Portsmouth. It's very down-to-earth, it's very value-based. Folks really don't care about your background or how much money you have. They just really care about your character and your personality. Um Yeah.

how you uh how you look at the world from uh from that perspective, and everyone's pretty much balanced.

So when people talk about an independent streak in this area, what do they mean?

Well, I think in lot at least Northern New England, if I'm going to talk Personally, most folks really don't care where you stand, whether it's Democrat or Republican. They more care about your values, right? How do you communicate with people, how do you value people, and what positions you have in terms of just personal well-being for everybody. Right. So it seems that way there's a lot of space.

A lot of people take an active role in government. For you personally, your success in business What about, I mean, they say the Founding Fathers' image was to serve and go into some type of political service, and then you go back into public life. They never really meant it to be a 60-year career, which so many in Congress have. Have you thought about that? Myself personally?

Yeah. Running for politics or on that? Running for politics. I've certainly considered it. My first and foremost responsibility right now is being the CEO of Crunch Fitness and making sure we have a successful run, which we do.

Down the road, is that something I'd be looking at? You know, it certainly sounds interesting to me, and I think what's important for the future is that people really get to sit down and talk to each other and find ways to compromise, which it seems there's certainly a path there. It's just been challenging for both sides to come together for a while.

So when you look at starting a business today, It would be great to have a business person in the White House or in the Senate or in Congress. You think labor costs are one of the keys. You having trouble still filling out your gym force? Different parts of the country are more challenging than others. California, New York, most of the larger cities, minimum wage is going up fairly substantially.

How does that affect a business like this?

Well, depending on how many employees you have in the business, it's going to affect your profit margins. independent franchises, because all franchises are independently owned, or small businesses really struggle with the cost of labor increases. In some markets, $15 is becoming the norm for the most part, and I think most businesses can absorb that. But as you get up into 17, 18, 19, 20, it's going to be very challenging for these folks to keep as many people employed as they had in the past.

So what people don't fully understand is what if you are making $15? And all of a sudden that becomes minimum wage. You've got to bump those people up. And if you're not, you're going to have some uh very disenchanted employees. Do people not think about that?

Do politicians not think about that?

Well, I think uh depending where you are politically, you're you know, you're trying to uh keep a lot of people happy, right? Forcing wages to raise for the employees of the businesses. That's technically good for the employees, but the free market should be the driving force between that's raising wages for employees and getting people more on a level footing. Ben Middlebeat is here. He's the CEO and founding partner with Crunch Fitness Franchising, right here from Portsmouth, New Hampshire.

But, Ben, when you look at what's happening right now in the country, you have a big push to get healthy, and a lot of people are taking the shortcut, some people think, and taking Ozempic, and they're losing weight. I talk to a lot of people who say I was talking to Jake Steinfeld over the weekend. He goes, it doesn't feel right. In life, there's no shortcuts. Is that a shortcut?

Are you seeing that a lot? What do you say to people who are getting frustrated and feel as though that could be a quick fix?

Well, I think for folks that want to lose weight and want to get in shape, as long as a drug is safe, we certainly don't have any judgment about that. And I think it's a really important issue for people.

So if you use that and it works for you, then great. That's fantastic. The thing about any of those drugs is you really need to stay up on your strength training in order to get yourself some long-term, consistent gains from that and maintain your healthy lifestyle. If you just try that drug over the long term, it's probably going to be challenging for you to maintain that healthy lifestyle.

So you've really got to get exercise in there so you can capitalize on that.

So what's the hottest thing right now? I mean, you have the, I see more people working out in a non-traditional way with their apps in a gym and not even sometimes using their equipment. What is the cutting-edge thing now that's going to be a good thing? got you guys most intrigued at crunch? The hottest thing right now is strength training.

It really wasn't years ago, but a lot of gyms across the country are removing uh a good amount of cardio equipment and they're replacing that with power racks and uh really where did that come from? I don't know if it's really what drove it, but certainly over COVID you saw a high increase of women getting involved in strength training.

So if you go into our clubs now, some of them have 12, 15 power racks, it's not uncommon to see all of them filled with women doing deadlifts or squats or cleaning jerks, any type of really forceful powerlifting exercises. And that's been a really great trend. I mean, it's great to see people getting engaged in that because the more you build muscle strength, you keep osteoporosis away. You really improve your flexibility and your overall stamina.

So it's a really good trend from a health and fitness standpoint. Which is so interesting, too, because when people talk about aging, instead of saying, well, we've got this new, you know, this is new and this is new, they go back to the basics. If you can keep your muscle tone the best as possible, you build strength, that's the best way to age gracefully, some think. Do you agree? I do.

I mean, I'm 44. Look at the size of you. I'm 54 now and certainly have more aches and pains than I used to, but if I wasn't strength training, I think things would be a lot different. Right. So when you open a franchise, what would it take to open up a franchise right now, let's say in a major city, as opposed to a Yeah, the cost for a crunch fitness right now, depending on the square footage, which ranges from about 20,000 up to 60,000 square feet, probably ranges from about $2.5 million up to $5 million or $6 million, depending how large you build and where you build it.

But if you're going to build in a major city compared to some of the suburbs, you're probably looking at a 20 to 25 percent increase of everything from the people you've got to pay to the fine, not the fines, but the fees that go along with it and the taxes. Permitting, sometimes union labor, things like that.

So just things you have to consider if you want to open in a large city. And what do you get for that? You get a lot, you get the brand, you get the marketing. Oh, full-on training. Yeah, you get a tremendous brand, obviously.

We're getting a lot of national exposure right now. The training programs are extensive. Marketing is highly sophisticated. We have a large national marketing fund, which really helps you promote your business. And we're there to support franchisees all along the journey.

Congratulations now, Allison. Oftentimes, you have trouble shopping for me. This would be a nice surprise. Two and a half million dollars to get me a franchise. You don't even have to wrap it up.

Would it be a certificate? Sure, we could work that out. All right, it'll be a surprise. I'll act surprise. Then, great to see you.

Congratulations on all your success. Brian Kilmey, Charles Payne, back from Fox Business. Just a moment. Don't move. Radio that makes you think.

This is the Brian Kill Me Show. I think President Biden has the strongest record to run on that we've seen in a very long time in this country. I think there is a lot of anxiety in this country about prices. That's why we need to continue the work that we've done. But in addition to doing the bipartisan work, President Biden and Democrats have stood up to Big Pharma, for instance, to lower prescription drug prices.

We are investing in clean energy and helping grant educators lower their energy costs. One of the many surrogates of Joe Biden, because the President of the United States doesn't really speak for himself much. He'll be speaking today. With me right now is Charles Payne, who promises to speak. That's why we booked him.

He has a lot to say. And you know about his show that's coming up. Charles, how many shows are you doing today? I lost track. They just point to somewhere and I go.

All right, FPN, he'll be doing from 2 to 3 o'clock today. He's also hosted Making Money. And Charles, your book is doing extremely well, too, right? It really, really is. The last book did about 350,000 copies, and this one is taking off.

It's Unbreakable Investment. I think one of the reasons is people are starting to say, hey, I got to do something, because no one believes Social Security is going to be there. And even if it is, it's not going to be enough, right? I mean, to be quite frank, at the rate of inflation, that sound bite that we just heard coming into this segment.

So at least people are trying to figure it out on their own. And that's, I think, one of the byproducts from COVID. We were being herded, and I don't know a lot of people realized this into what they were calling the sharing economy. What it really means is no ownership. You own nothing.

You have no way of advancing your economic prosperity.

So the idea was: don't own a home. Don't own a car. You know, one car on a block, everyone gets a nap, and you'll share it. You know, and people were falling for all of that stuff. Then, all of a sudden, you know, if you lived in a city, you were afraid to touch the elevator buttons.

Like, okay, I don't know who was there before me. Then, all of a sudden, home ownership blew up. And now, the great thing is you can work from home.

So, you don't have to even be next to the city. You don't have to live in a cramped apartment.

So, the dynamics in the nation have changed, but people have said, okay, I'm going to take control of my life. One of the things that stood out for me during COVID was when we ran out of preservative jars. People wanted to learn how to preserve food, so it's just sort of like I want to be independent, I want to control my life, and I don't want the powers that be to nudge me one way or the other. Because guess what? It didn't work for my parents, it didn't work for their parents, and didn't work for those parents.

And something's wrong because this is the wealthiest country in the world. How do I get a real piece of the action? Don't you think that's part of the reason why many people are giving the Heisman to electric cars? Really? You're going to shut for they told us to stay home and not drive and all that crazy stuff.

Well, imagine if you had an electric car and that city, that province, that state is control of the electric.

Now, all of a sudden, you're stopping me from charging my car, therefore, I am staying home and you do have control of my life. And we saw some of that in California last year, right? And I mean, there's so many things. This winter, it's the images of electric cars being stranded on the road. It's just horrifying.

Batteries not holding their charge. And, you know, here's the funny thing: like, they'll say, well, it gets this many miles. It will get that many miles in a test run where you don't have the radio on, you don't have the computer on. You start to use all. The things on that dashboard, and that number cuts in half.

And guess what? Where's your next charging station? And by the way, when you get there, how long do you have to wait? Do you have an extra nine hours?

So it's you know the irony of all of this? We went through this before. In 1900, you had three forms of automobiles: steam, electric, and internal combustion engine. At the bottom was internal combustion engine. Number one and number two was steam and electric.

They were vibing for number one and number two. All of a sudden, here comes Ford with the Model T. It's $600. It has this amazing range, right? The electric vehicles, just like then, just like then and now, they were like two grand back then.

So, by 1930, the last electric vehicle company, the Detroit Electric, went out of business. The consumer decided. The consumer was allowed to make a choice, and they made a choice. And guess what? We're not being allowed to make a choice this time, and that's frightening.

That is so frightening.

Meanwhile, we're pushing back. We are, we are, because listen, Hertz said they're going to sell one-third of their electric fleet. All these grandiose schemes by General Motors and Ford said, Okay, we're not going to try to go, you know, we are pushing back, but here's what I'm worried about. I don't know if we're pushing back enough. I've seen that the there's a thing they call CAFE standards, right?

Uh it's a car fleet, uh the average uh miles per hour, uh miles per gallon for a fleet of cars that the government decides on. And these cafe standards over the years have gotten absurd, absolutely absurd. It's one of the reasons why vehicles are less safe, 'cause you have to make them with thinner materials, lighter materials, so they can go further. And you always have one clunker that could go like a million miles per gallon, but nobody wants to own it. Native paper bochet.

Yeah, that you throw in the fleet just so they can don't dump and so but what happens is why has this worked for the government? Why has the government, particularly Democratic governments, been allowed to do this? Because California always is the first one to do it.

So now automakers are in a bind. We can't make a different set of cars for California, the largest, most populous state in the country, so they always fall into line. And this is what I'm concerned about. We need to get these states that, you know, that what they're doing with electric has to be pushed back on. We need to see that to be the epicenter of the fight because it's being thrusted on us.

And pretty soon it will be law. Pretty soon it will be law that it would be illegal to sell an internal combustion engine. Right. And in California, didn't they say that?

Now, if you own a dealership right now, either you fill your dealership with electric cars, you go out of business, but if people aren't showing up to buy them, you're out of business. Right, right. It's a heck of a double-edged sword. You know, it's so interesting. I saw those cars.

It was at the Detroit Ford Museum, wasn't it? Yeah. And they showed all three cars converted at the same time with the electric car, the gas car, and the steam car. And they just said the combustion engine was more attractive. Like you said, Henry Ford goes, This is my ticket.

And we did it, and we were acting. The roads got better. You know, we had the roaring 20s, people started making more money, we had greater prosperity, and guess what? It was okay. You could travel three states over to see grandma.

It was an amazing thing. It liberated the country, right?

So, you know, the idea of this anxiety, we've always had this anxiety. No one wants the their vehicle to stop on the highway somewhere, you know? Right. So, looking at the economy right now, you walked in, I say, well, how's the economy going?

Well, the market just hit an all-time high. Right. But you said it's never been more detached from the real economy. Absolutely. Even though we have 401ks, many of us have 401ks, and they are in the market.

You know, here's the problem with the 401ks. I just had a town hall special last week and I started off with this fact that people don't know about third quarter of last year the average 401k was like a hundred five thousand seven hundred bucks. Five years earlier it was one hundred five thousand six hundred bucks.

So, you know, listen, I want people in the stock market, but I prefer if they want to take it a little further, put a little bit of elbow grease in to do to try to find the even the n the names that do well, because the way we do it now is we own most people own the top ten stocks, they also own the worst ten stocks.

So if you look at a year like twenty twenty two, when the market goes down twenty-three percent, you have to make forty percent to break even from that.

So, after time, all you need is a bad year every now and then. And it's what I it's called passive investing. It's again, I'd rather have someone in the market than not if they're not going to do anything because just putting it in the bank is going to, you know, it's not going to do anything for you. But You know, to take a step further because people are not, the dream and the hype is not living up to the dreams and the hypes.

So, when you look at this election now, people were saying that when Trump got elected, a lot of people panicked. That the country was shocked that he won in 2016, and they panicked. They said, This is what I heard the statement coming in here in the middle of the night. It's probably the 4 o'clock in the morning. It was another network.

And they say, We're not going to panic like we did last time. What is the perception of an American economy under Donald Trump?

Well, the panic from an e economic point of view lasted ten minutes. It really did. When they said Trump won, the market the Dallas Jones industrial average was down a thousand points in the futures. It didn't open, right?

So it was overnight, these futures markets. What Donald Trump did as he came, he gave a really nice conciliatory acceptance. the market immediately turned around. This guy wasn't a dictator, he wasn't going crazy. He was a gentleman.

He said, Thank you, Hillary, and the market immediately turned around and knew what it focused on. Policy, not personality. Immediately, immediately, the second half of November of twenty sixteen and the first half of December, National Association of Home Builders, their sentiment index rocketed up a record number. The stock market exploded higher. You know, again in that on the town hall I did, what I I showed people is like they always say, Hey, how does the market perform under different presidents?

It's such a speechless thing because they start on Inauguration Day. The market doesn't move on Inauguration Day, the day after the election is when you take the pulse of it. Because if you just took it on Inauguration Day, Obama's first term was 77%.

However, however, if we took it on election day, it was only 45%. Why? Because after he was elected, the market got hammered because of policy and that personality. After Trump was elected, the market exploded. He didn't get any credit for that.

In fact, Obama benefited from it, but the market wasn't exploding because Obama was going to be in office. He was gone. Because he's leaving. Right. The market exploded because they anticipated someone who was going to believe in America, believe in Americans, and believe that the free market system worked.

So I listened to President Trump this morning, and I'm supposed to catch up to him tonight. And one of the things he says: the first thing I'm going to do is drill, and I think that's great. But I did see totals. It says that we are drilling more now than ever.

Now, Biden does not want to say that because it goes against his green flag. What is the truth about that?

Well, here's the thing: we're drilling more. But we have a lot fewer rigs. In other words, can we drill even more? And can we drill for better? Right now, the mix of our oil is really not great.

We're drilling some dirty stuff. The dirty stuff is harder to refine. And this is why, again, you know, if you hear the media like, well, they're drilling for more oil. Why are prices higher? If you get a lower grade of oil, lower quality of oil, then you know what?

It costs more money to refine that. When was the last time we had a new refinery in this country? 1970s. Right, 1977.

So, and by the way, the stuff that we ironically that we get, the sweet crude, because we didn't build any refineries for the sweet crude, we ship that off, which is fine, you know, if we can make some money on it.

So it's an interesting argument. How about we drill as much as we can? How about we bring those rigs back on? Why not go for 50 cents a gallon? I mean, it's it's achievable.

Why not unleash this because it is a gift? It is an absolute gift. America is a gift. If you look at our water, our tributaries, the Missouri, the Mississippi, the two oceans on both sides, just geographically, if you just had someone who came and studied the planet, not knowing anything about politics, economic, or anything, and said, look, which country was gifted? Look at each country, the way it's established, the geography.

We have gifts. We are so blessed. It's nuts not to take advantage of. And if you were smart, if you really believed in all this climate hysteria, if you were smart, you would build a better bridge to get from here to your client utopia rather than browbeat people and destroy the middle class. All right, Charles, can you stick around?

Sure. All right, we've got a couple more minutes. Charles' show is coming up at 2 o'clock on FPN. Are you subbing for anybody today? No, no, I'm on a lot of shows, though.

Right, you're everywhere.

Okay. All right.

So we'll talk to Charles Payne a little bit more about the economy. And also, Charles, you're doing everything now. You're doing so much more. Than business. I want you to play this out the next 24 hours when we come back because Donald Trump wants to lock this thing up with a double-digit win tonight.

Is it possible? We'll find out when we return. Covering this election year like no other, it's Brian Kilmead. Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Show.

One of the big bumps that Trump got out of Iowa was this electability number that we saw in those polls. More Republican voters think he's going to win in November, and that's what he needs. If he wins in New Hampshire, that will improve his ability to show voters that he is electable, that he can beat Joe Biden in November, that he can bring the party together.

So Charles Payne, our guest here, and Charles The one thing about Trump after 2022, when so many of his candidates did not do well, they said, you know, even if he gets the nomination, he can't win the general. Look at the headwinds, look at the court cases. That is going away in almost all the polls, and they're seeing it. He's been winning in Pennsylvania. He is actually winning in Michigan.

He is actually winning in Georgia, places he lost in 2020. The electable thing is no longer something he can't scale. No, in fact, I think it's complete BS in general. Electability/slash favorability. If you look at all the candidates throughout history, the only ones who are negative are Biden, Trump, Hillary.

In other words, it's something I think is even a modern-day phenomenon because of the power. You know, there was yellow journalism in the past, but this is something completely different. And so, you know, and then prior to these more recent years, if you look at the other three, they all were people who lost.

So it used to really be something. You know what I mean? Like, you know, people didn't like certain people. They didn't think they could have a bear with them, that kind of stuff. Really matter, but I was looking at this not long ago, and the top four that had lost have been the nominees or have actually won in recent elections.

So I just think that doesn't matter as much. I think people are maybe finding when they get into their booth or they, you know, they start to really think about voting, it's one thing to say, you know, the mean tweets, you know, this or the decorum, and then you know. weigh that against my my prosperity, my children's health. And so I I I just don't think that matters as much. You know, and this whole notion, listen, these experts have been so wrong.

I I gotta tell you something. The the this is like The pundits and experts, from everything from the stock market to politics, have been so completely wrong for so completely long, it's interesting they even get a platform anymore. Just talk to people, right? I mean, as far as those midterm elections. I think a lot of that was just the candidates.

You can't have a guy running in rugged Pennsylvania talking about chikorda reboards and stuff. He didn't even try. That guy didn't even try. It ain't going to work. It ain't going to work.

I mean, you know, you still have to have a pretty viable candidate. Right. Oh, you're talking about Senator Odds. But look at what Fetterman has done. I mean, Fetterman now sounds more like a moderate to the center right.

I got to applaud Fetterman, particularly on this U.S. Steel deal. I am shocked. That it's that it's they're so it's so quiet on both sides. I am sorry.

They're buying it. They're in the process of it. It could be stopped. I am shocked. I am shocked and really ashamed that they're gonna let this deal go through.

This is crazy.

Now, for a long time, and this really is on the right. You know, the old school right-wing economic orthodoxy has always held: well, if China wants to make steel cheaper than us, let them do it. You know, it's just the idiotic. Like, okay, now we're at war with him. Where do we get this still to make our battleships?

You think they'll send it to us? Right. We saw it during the pandemic when the medicines that were created in America with American ingenuity. We were waiting on the shoreline for China to send them over. And they say, well, we'll see you some after we're done with this.

Right?

So, how dumb, how dumb has it been?

So, this whole reshoring, onshoring phenomena, this is another area Trump gets no credit. No credit. This has been absolutely amazing. And if we've got to pay 10 cents more for something, so be it. Right.

So be it. If you explain to the American people that it involves you with national security, they would understand it. Number two is, I want to ask you this. I get different opinions. Has cutting the corporate tax, the Trump tax cuts, was it bringing companies back?

That was the image when he did it past his big tax reform. Companies started coming back under Trump, under Trump, and they came back a lot more. The trajectory Began under President Trump, without a doubt. This whole reshoring, onshoring, or what they call near-shoring. Ironically, Mexico, a huge beneficiary of it, huge beneficiary of it.

And so it absolutely began under Trump. And so did real prosperity. Just think about this for a moment. If the government becomes the middleman and takes all those money from corporations, if they take a dollar, how much of that dollar will they actually put into society? Honestly.

You know, 10 cents, right? I mean, you know, the rest of it goes to cronyism, favoritism, you know, whatever they do, right? I mean, it's it's it's nuts to want the cour the US government to be the middleman. The U.S. government became the middleman under Obama for college loans.

What happened to college loans? They went, they became stratospheric.

Now, college campuses look like amazing, look like many towns, many cities, right?

So you don't want the government to be the middleman on anything, on anything, which is, by the way, not to even get too far off the subject, but one of the reasons why Bitcoin blockchain, why that's so intriguing, because there's no middleman, no middle person. Gotcha. On your show today at two? Yeah. I got Jim Rickerts, who's like a really intriguing economist.

I don't know if you've ever had him on. This guy is absolutely amazing. And you, that's enough. Yeah, that's enough. And unbreakable prosperity.

Unbreakable prosperity, and the market's at new highs.

So, you know what? You don't have to love it or like it. Just take advantage of it. Joe's paying. Thanks so much.

It's great to see you. Thanks for the quality time. Keep it here, Brian. Kill me show on the road in New Hampshire. From Hia Tom, Fox News Headquarters in New York City.

Always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's great to be here. Thanks so much for being here. This is just a great place to be right now. It feels like winter, but not unreasonable here in New Hampshire.

If they do not show up at the polls, it's because they're indifferent about the election. It's not going to be because of weather. And I can't say the same thing about Iowa. We have so much to talk about. Nikki Haley's got a busy day.

The president's going to be in court in New York City, but Nikki Haley's going to be in a meet and greet in Concord at. I just saw her in studio, so she just did Bill Hemmer and Dana Perrino. At 10 o'clock, a meet and greet in Merrifield, which is right near Franklin. Then she's going to do a meet and greet in Concord. Same thing in Manchester.

That's at 2 o'clock. And at 3.45, it goes to Wyndham. And at 6 o'clock, she holds a big rally in Salem. And for the President of the United States, he's going to be doing a rally tonight. It looks like I'm going to be with him to give you an idea behind the scenes with President Trump.

We're going to bring back all the uncut version for all of us here.

So let's get to the big three before we get to this hour, Charlie Hurt and Andrew Yang.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. What you have is a systematic attempt to use their power to set up a series of obstacles so significant that they believe it would tear down the opposition that they fear would take their power from them. And that is Trump. It looks like Trump on trial.

The corruption involving the Georgia case in the latest chapter in the Eugene Carroll case today. It's clear there is a mission to stop Trump any way possible. Look at Colorado, look at Maine. We're going to look at the likely GOP nominee and what they're facing. Number two.

I think President Biden has the strongest record to run on that we've seen in a very long time in this country. There is a lot of anxiety in this country about prices. That's why we need to continue the work that we've done. There you go. Senator Maggie Hassan, a Democrat, 33%.

That's the new embarrassing approval rating for Joe Biden as he lives with the terrible decision to skip the New Hampshire primary because it's too white. We look at Dean Phillips' hopes, and a no-label's future, Dems are showing signs of panic. Number one. I am today suspending my campaign. It's clear to me that a majority of Republican primary voters want to give Donald Trump another chance.

I signed a pledge to support the Republican nominee, and I will honor that pledge. He has my endorsement. Yep, just like that, Governor DeSantis drops out. It's stunning.

Now they're two. DeSantis gone, Haley in, holding on, hoping for a miraculous win in New Hampshire when the feeling on the ground in the polls screams Trump. This was 24 hours to go, and as we analyze the stakes, I feel differently than most so-called experts. I don't think that. Governor Sentis did anything wrong.

I mean, if you look, maybe he should have got in earlier, perhaps. If you say, well, he should have waited until twenty twenty eight, really, are you the same people saying Cre Ch Chris Christie should have jumped in in twenty twelve and have ignored his own instincts that said that he wasn't ready yet?

Well, those same people is the reason why forty four year old Ron DeSantis said, I just had a resounding victory in a Purple State. I think I should be the next nominee. I think I'm going to run. My favorables are strong. My conservative credentials are solid.

And then, if you look at his strength with the issues that Republicans care most about, the border, and how he handled the pandemic, he had a reason to think he was going to do well. When people say he's not warm, that drives me the craziest. Why? Because I want someone who's going to solve problems, not give me a hug. And maybe we have someone that can do both.

But how about this? Here's the best example I can give. If Bill Clinton went to a hurricane victim, he'd hug him, look him in the eye, and say, How are you doing? How can I help? and probably do nothing.

With Ron DeSantis, he'd look at me and I'd shake their hand and say, What kind of insurance do you have? What has the state done? What's it going to take to rebuild? Have you picked a construction company yet? What are the hindrances and blocks in your way?

And then he would say, Tell a staffer to get on it, and he would follow up. He is just somebody that wants to get things done. He's not the warm and squishy guy, let's say, the warmth of George W. Bush. And, you know, I feel your paying Bill Clinton.

But I think he can live another day. I know we spent a lot of money. And people get on him for private jets. How do you expect him to get back and forth to Iowa and New Hampshire and South Carolina quickly without a private jet? That's what he wanted to be able to do because he's still the governor of a state.

Cut one. I am today suspending my campaign. I'm proud to have delivered on one hundred percent of my promises, and I will not stop now. It's clear to me that a majority of Republican primary voters want to give Donald Trump another chance. Trump is superior to the current incumbent, Joe Biden.

That is clear. I signed a pledge to support the Republican nominee, and I will honor that pledge. He has my endorsement because we can't go back to the old Republican guard of yesteryear. A repackage formed of warmed over corporatism that Nikki Haley represents. So That is Ron DeSantis, who you know has been brawling with President Trump up until a couple of days ago.

When Donald Trump gets word of it, here's what he says: cut three. Before we begin, I'd like to take time to congratulate Ron DeSantis and a really terrific person who had gotten to know his wife, Casey, for having run a great campaign for President. He did. He ran a really good campaign. I will tell you, it's not easy.

They think it's easy doing this stuff, right? It's not easy. But as you know, he left the campaign trail today at 3 p.m. And in so doing, he was very gracious, and he endorsed me.

So I appreciate it. I appreciate that. And what he's hoping for is that gives him maybe the 6% or 7% that DeSantis had would go to him and get him over 50% for the second consecutive contest, this being the first primary. And then if he's up 30, which he is, up 30 points in South Carolina, on the real clear average, he's up 54.37 overall. You wonder if Nikki Haley, even though she's already spent $4 million taking out digital ads, if she'll in fact stay in it.

I'll tell you what. Another one, impressive. You watch her on the stump, you watch her taking questions. She's had some things she'd want to take back to Civil War. For example, I understand that.

Saying that Iowa and New Hampshire corrects what Iowa uh produces. I understand that, but that's minor. But she's not only not given up, she's ratcheted up her attacks of the President, the former President, which is interesting because people said they were skeptical of her, how sincere she was, because She had no problem. Not answering the question, would you ever be vice president if you were asked? She didn't just say no.

She didn't answer. And that's what Ron DeSantis said. She's just running for vice president. But you don't do that. Because and say the things that she has said over the last 24 hours.

Listen to what she said about North Korea and Otto Wambier. Remember, he was tortured before he was killed, University of Virginia student. Listen to Nikki Haley, because the president since then became friendly with Kim Jong-un, who many people think supervised his torture, Cut 11. I think this really does show the contrast.

So I worked with Cindy and Fred Warnbier. They're amazing people. And I will tell you, as a parent, no parent wants to see their child return to them the way they saw Otto returned. And the difference is, I told Fred and Cindy, speak up, get loud, make sure I will help you. Let's partner.

We're going to call North Korea out. I passed the largest set of sanctions against them in a generation by pushing China and Russia to do it. But what did Trump do? Instead, he talked about love letters going back and forth to Kim Jong-un. Cindy would contact me.

She was so upset. And he went and said, oh, but Kim said that he wasn't aware of any torture that happened to Otto. All you had to do was look at Otto when he was returned back to his parents. It's tough. I mean, that's not somebody you don't bring up Ottawa Boam beer if you you're getting out tomorrow.

That's just it. And you don't bring up Ottawa beer, which clearly the uh the you know, the governor's right about that. But the one thing President Trump did do go out of his way to say, Listen, I'm talking to Kim Jong-un, but don't think I forgot about Otto. And I thought that was okay, but she's saying behind the scenes it's not. But she brings it up.

That's not something that's going to lead to her becoming vice president, ambassador again of something else. Just interesting. She also went on to say that his mental lapse over the weekend when he condemned Nikki Haley for not sending troops and security on January 6th instead of saying Nancy Pelosi.

So she went on to say these guys are just too old. That's not what you say if you actually want somebody to bring you in to the fold and become a surrogate. To her credit. All right, listen to the Brian Killmee Show. When we come back, we're going to be joined by a very special guest who's got some interesting perspective right now.

And I'll tell you why. Because Andrew Yang ran for mayor of New York City, but even though he didn't get it, he established himself as somebody who got the young vote. He's got the digital technology. And he also thinks this current president is way too old. I think Andrew Yang is still a Democrat.

He'll be giving us his perspective. Then Charlie Hurt, Fox News contributor, calm list for the Washington Times. You'll listen to the Brian Killmee Show.

So glad you're here. On the road to 2024, the New Hampshire primary. Trump is superior to the current incumbent, Joe Biden. He has my endorsement. He was very gracious, and he endorsed me.

I appreciate that. The two-person race is on. He's just not at the same level he was at 2016. I think we're seeing some of that. Keep it here on the Brian Kill Me Show.

The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead. There have been headlines in the last few hours about you calling President Biden. What did you mean by that? What were you saying?

Well the poll I'm just reflecting what the polls are telling everybody. He's losing in every battleground state. He's behind in most national polls. And his approval numbers are at historic lows, three points below Donald Trump at the same stage in his presidency and nine points below Barack Obama. I mean, I don't know how anybody can look at these numbers and determine that he is anything but weak.

And I think Tuesday night will once again show at a poll not just a poll, but a actual primary. If his numbers are below the typical 84, 81 percent that Clinton and Obama got, I think it's just more evidence of the fact that Democrats right now are deluded. And we need a competition, not a coronation. And there you go. And that is why Congressman Dean Phillips of Minnesota in Hampton, New Hampshire, yesterday was talking about running for president.

He says, I just want to get on these ballots. The Democratic Party is trying to keep me out. And he does not get it. I talked to him on television an hour ago, and I talked to him often on camera. He's literally befuddled on how the party is so afraid to admit that Joe Biden's got some problems in the polls, and people should be allowed to run against him.

Maybe Andrew Yank feels the same way, former presidential candidate. He is here with me right in the studio. Andrew, great to see you. Great to be here. Thanks for having me.

New Hampshire, let's go. All right.

And what generally do you mean by let's go? Just make sure you show up? New Hampshire, let's go and vote for my guy, Dean Phillips. Let's move on from Joe Biden as the incumbent. I think the.

State and the country are ready for a different leader. What what bothers you about him? I think so. This may differ from some others. I mean, I think he's accomplished a significant amount, but I think he's the wrong candidate for 2024.

I think in the general election, he would lose to Donald Trump, as Dean has been making the case. I think there is a lot of frustration over the fact that the DNC has not played it straight up here in New Hampshire or in North Carolina or in Florida where they're canceling primaries. I mean, how can you literally give a speech championing democracy on one hand and then turn around and suppress it on the other? That is what is going on in this Democratic primary, and Dean Phillips is calling it out, and he's about to show everyone that people don't want just the battle of the 80-year-olds. How do you know?

Dean and I met a couple of years ago at a campaign finance reform event. He's a serving member of Congress. He said, Look, I don't take PAC money. I don't take lobbyist money. I think it's terrible that all my colleagues are constantly scurrying off to dollar for dollars.

And I heard this guy, and I was like, wow, this is a member of Congress. I could get behind this.

So we became friends, and then he publicly said what I think most people were thinking, which is Joe shouldn't run for re-election. He then got attacked for that, which made me like him even more.

So Dean and I have been friends for the last couple of years. Is it age or is it policy with Biden that has you so turned off? I think the two are blending together, to be honest with you. But someone in New Hampshire asked me what's the difference between Dean and Joe Biden. I said about 27 years.

I mean, that's like a pretty big gulf. Imagine having a 55-year-old leader who's robust and can play hockey, and you're not worried about. Them heading into a retail establishment and campaigning. I mean, these are basics, but I've run for president. I think having an 81-year-old.

Candidate would be a massive handicap. Uh in the fall.

So Senator Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire Democrats said this, cut twenty-four. I think President Biden has the strongest record to run on that we've seen in a very long time in this country. I think there is a lot of anxiety in this country about prices. That's why we need to continue the work that we've done. But in addition to doing the bipartisan work, President Biden and Democrats have stood up to Big Pharma, for instance, to lower prescription drug prices.

We are investing in clean energy and helping grand educators lower their energy costs. Did she effectively counter your argument? I don't think she did. She did particularly on several levels. I mean, I'm someone who agrees that.

America needs to be more affordable. And I think the best way to do that is to have a new chief executive who is more in touch with what's happening in the country, who wants to do things like have a universal health care system, have baby bonds, bring back the enhanced child tax credit, all of which are on Dean's platform. Maggie Hassan is acting like you need Joe Biden in office to solve these problems. And I think if Joe Biden even were to win reelection, which again I do not think would happen against Trump, you'd wind up with a sharply divided Congress that's likely to get very, very little done. Dean is the second most bipartisan member of Congress on record right now.

And he's going to have a nonpartisan, bipartisan cabinet. He's going to bring in people from outside of government. He's actually going to be much, much better positioned to solve some of these problems. But yet he voted with Joe Biden every step of the way. You know, if you like a policy, and like I can't Speak for Dean's perspective on all of this, but I happen to like a lot of Joe's policies.

And if Dean becomes president, he's going to be. A problem solver, as he was as a leader of the Problem Solvers Caucus, he's obviously not afraid to flout the party. I mean, he's running against the sitting president right now. Like, you can imagine all the slings and arrows that are coming out for this guy. He's got a backbone like a steel rod.

And so, when the party is going astray, he'll call it out like the border. He thinks what's happening in the border right now is backward and ridiculous. He wants to do common sense things like establish a buffer zone, have people apply for asylum in their own country as opposed to having to come into the U.S. to apply for asylum. We have Byzantine, nonsensical policies on the border that Democrats constantly ignore or apologize for.

And you know who's calling it out? Dean Phillips.

Well, I'll tell you what, one thing is pretty clear: 33% approval rating according to ABC for the president of the United States. But in New Hampshire, as a write-in candidate, Andrew Yang, he gets 63% of the vote. Other gets 11%, and 10 is to Dean Phillips. Our poll has it at 32%, Dean Phillips. The crowds he's getting around the stage.

So it's published by the American Research Group, and it says Dean Phillips is at 32% as of this weekend. He's drawing crowds of hundreds of New Hampshire voters everywhere he goes. And if you look at the standard that Joe Biden has to hit, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton in New Hampshire got 81, 84% of the primary electorate vote. Joe Biden, this is what's going to happen in real life, guys. Dean's going to put up a shockingly big number, and then the Biden campaign is going to be spinning it and apologizing for the fact that Joe Biden got whatever it's going to be, 55, like 58%.

They'll be like, oh, that's good. Guys, that's freaking terrible. For an incumbent Democratic president to get that among his own people in New Hampshire, the threshold should be 81, 84%. After he falls short of that, you're going to see they'll be like, oh, you know, it doesn't mean anything. It means a whole heck of a lot.

Andrew Yang, finally, do you think New Hampshire people have a right to be upset by the Democratic Party? Oh, yeah. A very prominent New Hampshire Democrat who Unfortunately, it couldn't go on the record because that's a culture in the Democratic Party right now.

So that's like an abusive relationship. If you're a New Hampshire voter listening to this, if you're an independent, you should be picking. Pissed off to no end at the DNC because they are punishing you for having a primary that you are required by state law to have. Think about that. That's insane.

D24.com. Let's change it. Andrew Yang, you're not insane. I appreciate the quality time. And on the record, I will go on the record saying you're not insane.

Thank you very much. I will take it, Brian. Thank you. That's you. Andrew Yang, thank you.

Back in a moment, Brian. Kill me, Chill. Chunk. The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmead.

So that's watered under the bridge now. Totally. As far as I'm concerned, look, he endorsed me. You know, he endorsed me. And we have policies very similar, actually.

I think those people will all come to me. Is there a possibility, since you say it's watered under the bridge, he can be vice president or Serving your cabinet. He hasn't asked for any of those positions. No, thank you. No, he hasn't.

But is there a possible joining of forces?

Well, it's probably unlikely, but you know, I have to be honest: everything's a possibility, but I think it's. Highly unlikely.

So that is the the reaction from Donald Trump hours after he found out that Ron DeSantis no longer in the race. It's a two person race, and within twenty four hours, it could be just Donald Trump's nomination, although there are other scenarios where he where Governor Haley lives to fight another day. With me right now is Charlie Hurt, Fox News contributor, comments for the Washington Times, fresh off an appearance on the big show last night, right? Oh, yeah. Right.

So your thoughts about Donald Trump's Stance after Ron DeSantis made out. Do you like his attitude? Oh, yeah. No, no, I mean, I feel like the Donald Trump we've seen the last couple of weeks has been a far more measured Donald Trump. Is it because he's winning?

I think it has a lot to do with the fact that he's confident and he's winning. But I also think that, you know, you know how sometimes a starting pitcher sometimes comes into the game and can't find the strike zone? And it takes the, you get to the second inning, and he calms down and he gets right anything. If you don't get him in the first, you're done. Yeah, because they always settle down.

Yeah, once they settle down, he's just grooving it. And I feel like Trump is kind of grooving it right now. I've loved his performance in the town hall last week or whatever it was. Was that last week? Two weeks ago in Iowa?

And I feel like we were seeing a little bit of the same there. He's a lot more magnanimous, which we haven't always seen from him. But also, I caution about what he said about Ron DeSantis. Um, you know, uh eight months is like an eternity. No, if we get to summer and Donald Trump looks around and says, you know what, this is the matchup I need to win, he's going to pick Ron DeSantis.

I'm not saying that that's going to happen. And by the way, anybody inside or outside of Trump World who says that they think they know what Donald Trump is going to do, Donald Trump doesn't know what he's going to do. Mike Pence almost had to force his hand to pick him. Remember, his plane had problems, so he spent another night and kind of wooed him into doing it. And the one thing about Trump, does he have to make a decision that quick?

No. I mean, he doesn't have to catch you eye, right? Yeah. And, you know, and I also think that we often overstate the importance of vice presidential picks, but I do think this one is important for this reason alone. And that is that, you know, because Trump, this is a weird thing.

When was the last time we had somebody running for a four-year term? I don't remember. I can't think of the last time where it was, you know, when you look at everything. Trump is running for a four-year term, and that's been sort of a hit on him, but it's also an opportunity. And the opportunity is that if Trump policies are good, and I would defend them and say that they're going to be terrific, then you're setting up a situation where Whoever he picks to be his vice president is going to run as the sort of quasi-incumbent who gets to draft off of the policy, the Trump policies of the first four years.

And that's why I think the pick is so important. And if you pick somebody who is truly committed to the America First Trump agenda, then you're looking at 12 years. Right. Not eight. Right.

Not saying that anybody will compete with it about who that vice president is. But Mike Pence was a brilliant pick for Donald Trump because he just worked. He understood Congress and he understood he had relationships and he understood Trump. Yeah. And what you just said is crucial.

Everybody says he picked him for the evangelical vote. No, he didn't. That's a complete misunderstanding. He had that. That was certain.

He picked him to be a sort of a normal, calming. Character, a calming influence in the Trump, you know, and looking forward, you know, I think that you look at a guy like Ron DeSantis, he has a tremendous record. He is a worker, he's a nerd, which is why he's not particularly good at politics. But running as sort of a quasi-incumbent in 2028, that could be very good. And obviously, the matchup between Trump and DeSantis worked beautifully in Florida.

Thank God for it. And then, you know, but if you're looking for somebody like a calming influence like that, similar to Mike Pence, a guy like Pompeo, who is great on the Trump agenda and is sort of, you know, obviously he's far more anti-establishment than I think. Pence was, but he's he's got that. He's been everywhere. He's been in Congress.

And then obviously the other. Terrific choice could be Sarah Huckabee Sanders, who is there's nobody tougher in the world. And, you know, the tough and if we haven't learned anything else from the Trump years, the quality of toughness. To put up with these people. See, I think she's so new to it, did a great job as press secretary.

Give her some more time. I think that my pick is Lee Stephaniek. And I just think that the way she can navigate Congress, the fearless leadership that she had, she's used to being attacked, gets up every day in a hostile territory. And I think she's really separated herself over the last year or two. I know she has some original comments because she wasn't pro-Trump, but I think she made the adjustment.

Christy Noam would do it if she got the personal life thing straightened out. You don't really want to deal with that if you don't have to. But I would say this: this is why I believe that Nikki Haley has no interest in the number two slot because she's ratching it up to take New Hampshire, not thinking of what if I don't win. Here's an example: Cut 8. When I worked in his cabinet, I called him out if he was doing something wrong.

I mean, I would show up, I'd pick up the phone and say, you can't do this. Instead, you could do X, Y, or Z. You know, so I always told him what I thought was in the best interest of the country when I was in his cabinet. But this is different. I mean, we're seeing, he's just not at the same level he was at 2016.

I think we're seeing some of that decline. But more than that, what I'll say is focus on the fact that. No matter what it is, chaos follows him.

So, you know, obviously Nikki Haley's out of step with Republican voters, at least in Iowa and what polling shows now. You know, they can say that she can say that chaos follows them everywhere and that it's time to surrender and give in to the Trump opponents, but Republican voters are not there. Republican voters clearly are determined to keep the fight going. The other thing I think is kind of interesting, you know, she you know, when she said Nikki Haley's problem is she comes off as a politician from central casting. She says whatever she has to say.

And I don't think that Republican voters are prepared to go back to that style of candidate. And when she says the thing, like she goes, you know, I would call him up and tell him that he was his own worst enemy. Really? Really? Do you actually think that Nikki Haley called up Donald Trump in the White House and said, you know what, you're your own worst enemy?

I'm going to sort of. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm willing to bet that she probably never s actually said that to him. Especially that way, but she did have direct contact with him and I do think there's mutual respect there. That's why I thought there might have been a tag team, but not the way this is ending. No, I don't I think and and yeah, I agree.

And I thought that his comments last week about her were not being ready? Yeah, were actually somewhat Sherman-esque in terms of like, yeah, I am not paying because if you think about it, like every time somebody says something like that about somebody who could be a potential vice president, you fast forward and think about, okay, what are the attack ads going to be where they use Trump's words against whoever he picks to be as vice president? What he said about Nikki Haley would be a devastating attack ad against her in next summer if he picks her. What he said about Ron DeSantis, I don't see a Particularly strong attack ad that Democrats can run against. Trump and DeSantis, if Trump picks him.

See, the other thing that I just have a contention with is that whole, he doesn't have the warmth with DeSantis. And I said, I don't know what you mean by the warmth. I think he's fine. He wants to solve problems. He really doesn't, you know, he's not going to give you the Bill Clinton hug.

He's not going to shed a tear. But no, he's going to say, where's your insurance? Where's the construction guy? The tornado hit. Were you prepared?

Were you able to get a response? Are we going to rebuild that bridge? But he's not going to hug you. He's not going to hug you out. And I have no problem with that.

I don't need a hug from my politician. No, but you do have to know how to be a politician. And this is fundamental problems with him. With Ron DeSantis? Yeah, if Trump wasn't running, would you feel the same way?

Do you see a flawed candidate?

Well, I still see a candidate who has a hard time selling himself to people who haven't lived under his policies. When you go to Florida, it's amazing the way everybody you talk to who lives. Loves Ron DeSantis, they will give you a bill of sale for all the things he's done for them. It's amazing. And he executes.

It's really impressive. But the problem is that policy positions, nerdy, being a nerd selling policy positions doesn't win elections. And we can complain about that and be upset about this and be butthurt about it. But at the end of the day, you have to be a good politician somehow. You have to sell it.

And this is my complaint about Republicans all along. Republicans have failed to learn the lessons from Donald Trump. Whether you love him or hate him, the guy knows how to sell Trump cookies. He's selling cookies. They're the greatest cookies on earth.

You can eat as many as you want. You won't gain a pound. You'll look gorgeous if you eat them all. But you know that's not true.

Well, you know what? Maybe it's true. Maybe it's not. You know those cookies don't make you. That's the problem.

He's a bit of a fabulous. But when the media then comes out and they're like, oh, no, that's not true. You can't eat all these cookies. They sound like morons. Fact-checking them on those things.

I know that's true. And just like the whole thing about him being a dictator. I mean, I'm watching these people. Did you watch the show? I mean, do you realize how idiotic you sound?

Yeah, exactly. But the other thing is, when I laughed, and I tell Allison this all the time, I laugh out loud every time I hear him voice his own commercial about the Donald Trump trading card mugshot edition.

So this is the thing that would ruin anybody, not only in life, but their business when they're done, ruin their political life. Their business. He's like, okay, and I will sell you a piece of the suit that I wore the day I got the mug shot. And so are you kidding me? And you know what I hate about politicians is politicians look at that and they think, oh, we're better than that.

Well, you need to check in with the American people because they don't think you're better than that. They think that that guy selling sham wow is an improvement over everybody in Washington. But the mug shot on a mug is and the mug shot on a trading card. And you can get a new version. Every month.

Be a mug of the month. They're the best ever. Yeah, the best, right? And whatever you put in it. Charlie Hurts here.

Charlie, when we come back, a relationship that I had everything to do with. Would you say that to him? Everything to do with. You're a matchmaker. Back in a moment.

Hear the ins and outs of the 2024 election right here. The Brian Kill Meet Show. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Killmead. This headline, you might have caught your attention.

GOP donors are probably pushing to Senator Tim Scott to give more details about his private life, your single status. What is your status?

Well, obviously, at this point, I'm taking. I have a wonderful girlfriend, and we have a wonderful relationship. The good news is God has blessed me with a smart Christian woman. That's great news. But more importantly, is why are the headlines there?

The headlines are there because as I rise in the polls, as people show up at my town halls, it scares even my opponents. We met your mom when we meet her. Will you meet your girlfriend?

Okay. Great. Where is she hiding? Wait, why is Brian Kilmead single-shaming him? This reminds me of my mom before I met my husband.

Like, headline, Alyssa is still single.

Well, it does remind you of every woman that's ever walked the earth in a mask.

Well, where's the man?

So We finally have an answer to that question. Who the girlfriend is from Tim Scott? You know, I always love the relationship portion of politics. I don't like the numbers. I want to know who's making out with who.

You know, I've always said that, right? Oh, yeah. Charlie Hurd is here, by the way. I didn't mean said. Charlie Hurd is here, by the way.

But that sounds like a disappointment. Can I make the announcement or do we have to actually have the sound?

Okay. Tim Scott is engaged to Mindy. No s Unless I unless it should be an I. No, I think I I typed this out. Um she is a someone that he met And he brought up scripture.

He said, um Here it is. Mindy's his girlfriend. She's an interior designer who lives in Charleston. She said, yes, it's been a whirlwind few days for Mr. Scott, whose endorsement of Donald Trump at a New Hampshire rally on Friday, renewed talk about his consideration as a running mate.

The engagement was first reported by the Washington Post. Comes after more than a year of dating. Your thoughts about their chance at success and long-term happiness? Oh, I mean, guaranteed, right? It has to be.

But, I mean, can you imagine in the throes of everything he's been going through for the last couple of weeks, or the last couple of months for that matter, having to enter into this whirlwind? I mean, like, in the best of circumstances, I was like losing my mind. I'm like, what am I doing? I mean, what have I gotten myself into? I mean, so.

Well, you didn't think that with your marriage, did you?

Well, I mean, I'm just saying. No, I was not talking about my marriage at all. I mean, I'm just saying, like, you know, theoretically speaking, like, if you were to, like, if one were to kill. That's what I'm thinking. Yeah, exactly.

Because, I mean, you know, it's like. Like like, you know, marriage is a long time. You know, twenty I've twenty-five years is a long time. It should be a series of one-year contracts. Right?

At the end of the year, you have an option to pick each other's outcome. No, no, no, there's a reason it's not. You know why? Because it would because the contracts would end at some point. But Charlie.

But a lot of people. Everyone plays best to their contract and their walkier.

So we'd be every day, we'd be coming out with our A. Did you discuss this with your wife? Not yet. Yeah, not yet yet. I don't know if she's listened to the radio show, but I know she watched it.

I saved this for the radio. Right, right. But you know, this is a brilliant idea. But back to back to Tim Scott, he is a wonderful person. And he might have met Miss Perfect.

And wouldn't that be perfect if you're going to be named Vice President to get one issue that might pop up? People saying, wait a second, you know, is Tim Scott married? Yeah, what's the issue? Right. No, I'm just saying is he is he married or not?

Like people who say, No, no, he's he's married. No, no, everybody and everybody likes a little storybook story, and they like it. It's cute, it's nice. Looking at Vice President, let's say that let's say right now that Donald Trump KOs Nikki Haley, and then South Carolina, Donald Trump brilliantly brought up every South Carolina lawmaker in New Hampshire. And yesterday to say, Listen, this is what's waiting for you.

Should you survive? These are the VP stakes. Lise Elden's being vetted right now, Tim Scott, Elise Stefanik, Christy Noam, Byron Donalds. Out of that list, do you want to add anyone to that?

So, yes.

Well, no, I would say no, I would say I think that Mike Pompeo is a real runner, and I think that Sarah Huckabee Sanders are real. But what I think is especially interesting on the South Carolina thing, how amazing is it? I mean, it's like a South Carolina reunion up here. You've got Henry McMaster, you've got Tim Scott, you've got Lindsey Graham, you got Nancy Mace. Wait, Nancy Mace is English.

Nancy Mace announced last night, was it, or this morning, that she's going. I mean, and Nikki Haley lives in Nancy Mace's district.

So it's a cleanup down in South Carolina. And I also think it's interesting that they moved the Tim Scott thing. Because I thought that they were going to hold Tim Scott's endorsement until they went to South Carolina. I didn't think he was going to give it. And then they they moved it up And it happened here.

Why did it happen here? It happened here because Trump thinks he can. Pop out yeah, exactly. Do the knockout. But um what was your w uh out of all those who would be your pick?

Well, oh oh the other vetting their background.

So um but the thing I think is kind of interesting about Christy Noam is that if if this election were about COVID, Nobody Did better in COVID than Christy Noam because Christy Noam said, Look, maybe it would be a good thing to shut everything down. But you know what? I don't have that power, so I'm not going to do it. She never shut down anything for any period of time. And I mean, she has a perfect record.

They went after her, too, with the whole bike thing, the motorcycle. Oh, yeah, they destroyed her over there. And she held strong. But as we're seeing with the campaign that DeSantis has run, That's not what's moving voters. That's not the issue.

People don't want to be re-litigating COVID. Right. Joey, I enjoyed our time. Hey, it's been really fun. Good luck about relationships.

And good luck about Vice Pre-Pay. Good luck with your marriage. Series of one-year contract. Yes. I'm not saying that I'm going to implement it.

I just turn it out to the people to see if it'll work for them. I don't think you get to decide that. I think that your wife is going to decide that. Good point. Thank you, Charlie Hurt.

Trying to stay busy and out of trouble for a change. Oh, yeah. All right.

Keep it here, Brian Killmeek Chow in New Hampshire.

So glad you're there. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead. I like to say it's finally here. We've been thinking about it for the longest time.

And of course, with the Trump trials taking place and all the speculation about Joe Biden, will he run again? It feels like it's been going on for two years. But really, we're just 24 hours away from our first primary and just within a week from our first result. And that was the Iowa caucus 30-point win for former President Donald Trump. Today, Nikki Hilly's going to be quite busy.

She's going to be doing a meet and greet in Concord, New Hampshire. She already was on Bill Hemmer's show. She just did an appearance in Franklin, New Hampshire. Then she's going to go to Manchester, on to Wyndham. She's going to finish up with a big rally in Salem.

And I know Donald Trump will be in New York City. Donald Trump will be in New York City at a civil trial with E. Gene Carroll. And it's all about getting an award. She wants $10 million, and Trump doesn't want to give anything.

And then he's going to fly out and do an event. We're supposed to join him on the trail tonight. And then we'll have some of those interviews tomorrow and during the week. With me right now with Britt Hume. Britt Hume is Mr.

Everything here. Fox News is senior political analyst. There's nothing you haven't done and can do. And, Britt, the thing I like most is when things happen and I feel they're unprecedented. I always thought, would Britt Yume feel the same way?

But when I look at 91 charges, four indictments, a 30-point Iowa win, and it looks like in most recent polls, the double-digit lead on. Nikki Haley, are we in things that make Britt Hume say, wow, this is unprecedented?

Well, it's different, that's for sure. I'm always hesitant to say something unprecedented because someone who knows more than I do or has a longer memory or has studied history more carefully may come along to contradict me. But no, this is unusual, and it reminds me a little bit of the atmosphere in the Republican Party in 1980 when there appeared to be quite serious challenge to Ronald Reagan's nomination from George H.W. Bush. But it turned out that the party had shown its love for Ronald Reagan four years earlier in 1976 when he nearly beat incumbent President Ford in the primary here in New Hampshire.

And the state of New Hampshire was prepared to vote for him again, although Bush was leading in the polls coming out of Iowa, which he'd won. And as it ended, that was a blowout for Reagan because this party loved Ronald Reagan, still loved him, and once they were sure that he was okay, they were ready to vote for him and did. And this seems to be the case. Here with Donald Trump. You know, there's been a lot being said and written about why the DeSantis campaign didn't work.

And a lot of people say, well, he didn't do this and he didn't do that and he wasn't cuddly and he didn't. didn't romance the media properly. I don't think uh that has much of anything to do with it. I think what happened is the Republican Party appeared a year or so ago to be prepared to turn away from Donald Trump. It wasn't.

And once Donald and once the indictment started to hit, particularly that ridiculous brag indictment in New York City the first of them, which was a silly indictment, widely thought of as such, even among even in some quarters on the American left, the feeling of loyalty to Donald Trump waked those voters up, and they were poised to vote for him in Iowa, and they appear poised to vote for him here. Here's what Ron DeSantis kind of surprised people by saying this yesterday, cut one. I am today suspending my campaign. I'm proud to have delivered on one hundred percent of my promises, and I will not stop now. It's clear to me that a majority of Republican primary voters want to give Donald Trump another chance.

Trump is superior to the current incumbent, Joe Biden. That is clear. I signed a pledge to support the Republican nominee, and I will honor that pledge. He has my endorsement because we can't go back to the old Republican guard of yesteryear. A repackage formed of warmed over corporatism that Nikki Haley represents.

Did it surprise you he not only said I'm out, but uh I'm endorsing. Trump at the time.

Well, it's kind of a lukewarm endorsement. He said he's superior to Joe Biden, which is, you know, if you're a Republican, that ain't saying much. Right. And Nikki Elliot.

Well, there there you go. I mean, but but he's no, he he he Spurn Nikki Haley clearly, it seems to me, because he criticized her in that same statement, a part of which you displayed.

So I was a little surprised he did it right here on the eve of this primary, but it makes sense, Brian. He didn't, I mean, going here.

South Carolina didn't look good for him. And so he was in that position that candidates sometimes are in when they make a big bet on one state, whether they win it or lose it. The question always becomes, where are you going next? If you start asking the question now of him, the answer was he couldn't really see where he was going to recover. See, I'm torn.

I do not think that Nikki Haley is anything less than a conservative. She's not a so-called rhino. She might be a little different. I like her foreign policy. I think we should be back in Ukraine.

I see Russia with much bigger interest than Ukraine. I see an opportunity to stop this would-be infection of Eastern Europe from spreading out again. I think Israel should be supported and we should be giving them arms and let them finish the job. That's more Nikki Haley than President Trump. It certainly is.

And DeSantis, for traditional Republicans who hold foreign policy views similar to the ones you just expressed, DeSantis was kind of a disappointment. And Trump has been too. Trump is not really an internationalist in the sense we normally think of it. Although, if you look at his record on foreign policy, it was pretty strong.

So, you know, I think a lot of Republicans are saying to themselves, well, I kind of disagree with him on Ukraine, and he seems lukewarm on other commitments, but it's not how he governed. It isn't. And the thing is, I know they want to press NATO, and I'm all open to the negotiation of walking away and saying if you don't increase the 2%, I'm out. And that panics people. But if he gets people to spend more, if that's his way of doing it, we should understand that that's Trump's method of negotiating.

I get it. But to walk away from that alliance would be absolute folly. I think that would, you know, getting more of them spend more, yes. To get them to modernize their military to defend themselves, it just got exposed how bad their equipment is, 1980 Soviet style. But we'll see where the foreign policy goes.

So far, they have avoided that. And you see the blowback that Joe Biden's getting over his support for Israel, which Is at the right, I believe, is on the right side of it. But it's one of these times where everything's a little bit gray, Britt, when it comes to foreign policy. And that situation with Biden is kind of interesting because I think he's getting it from both sides, on Israel in particular, because he's got a significant component of his party, which is pro-Palestinian, to be quite quite frank about it. Especially Michigan.

Yes. And and on the other hand there are people who don't like his occasional criticisms of and pressure on Israel to to back off.

So you put those two together and suddenly you you're holding a minority position within within within the electorate. While we're in the Middle East for a second. Net Yarrow coming out and goes, This is not gonna be only a two state solution. Can we just own up to that? I do not want a state there and the rest of the world going, There has to be a state, let's do it and our Secretary of State meeting with the leader of the Palestinian Authority Your thoughts.

Have you heard anyone speak in an intriguing, insightful way? A w a logical way a practical way of the the way forward after the Hamas operation is done in Gaza? I have not really and I think but I think the two state solution idea, which is one of those ideas that's been around since the earth cooled, it seems like um it has never really been accepted By the Palestinians for their leadership. They've had the opportunity and they've walked away from it each time. But we want to make Israel accept a two-state when the other state doesn't want to be this.

Exactly right. And I think the idea is kind of dead on arrival. And these politicians and foreign policy experts who talk about it all the time as if it's the only way out. It looks great on paper, but it has never worked. I don't think it can work.

I don't know what other idea there is, but we need a new idea. And I think the Israelis are right to be deeply skeptical of that as a solution.

So if you look at what's happening right now with the Houthi rebels, now we're ramping up. We're looking at a longer plan of continuing strikes against them. They're asking for more weapons from Iran.

So these tribesmen are actually rocketing and putting an end to Red Sea. Shipping, period.

So this is costing everyone millions, going to cost everybody with any products we get there. 15% of the world's economy goes through there. It's going to cost everyone this. This is the last thing, if you are Joe Biden, this is the last thing you need outside the collapse of the border.

Well, he could respond here and mount a military response, which would be effective. I mean, the truth is, we're in a position of real strength worldwide. and especially so now in that region. And we're in a position to do severe damage to the Houthis if we have the will to do it. And w that would that would of course would, as they say, send a message to Iran that you don't want to screw around with us.

B Biden seems enamored still of the idea that we're going to be able to work things out with the Iranians and have a good relationship. I I it doesn't make any sense to me, um, but he seems taken with it.

Now the other thing, of course, I think is he's worried about Trying to run for re-election in the middle of a hot war. Because the truth of the matter is that, rightly or wrongly, wars inspire and incredibly deep passions and it's hard to it's hard to to run a war uh at a time when you're, you know, politically vulnerable and up for reelection, and he didn't want that, and I understand that. On the other hand, decisive military action now might ward off a war. Right. And that's Tom Cotton's point.

This is what he said to Mark Levin last night, Cup thirty two. Barack Obama believes deeply that America is the reason for the Four decades of tensions between Iran and the United States. He believes that we overthrew a democratically elected government in 1953 in Iran. Nothing could be further from the truth. He believes that presidents before him consistently believed the worst about Iran and put undue pressure on them.

If we would just extend, as he said, an open hand, they would respond. And what did they get? They got a clenched fist throughout the Obama presidency. You got the Iran nuclear deal, which didn't block their path to a bomb, but as Prime Minister Netanyahu said, paved their path to a bomb. And they got billions of dollars of payoffs.

Mm-hmm. See, the planters war problem in the Middle East is Iran. And yet, their way of approaching Iran, whatever you think of it, they should at least admit that it didn't work out. And people change policies all the time. And you say this administration and the previous President would not be willing to admit that.

That's been the case so far, Brian, and and uh I think Obama's foreign policy over time will be in held in increasingly low regard. Look at Libya. Got a total pass on that. Created havoc there with no plan B. Hillary Clinton leaned on him to do it.

I think Valerie Jarrett did as well. They blow up the country.

Now the Russians have more influence in Libya than we do. That's exactly right. And and that's the peril of of of treating uh the Middle East and the and the countries in that region as someone that we can always do business with and that we ought to have a have a strong relationship with the uh with people like the Iranians. It's not possible. Allison, did Britt give you an idea of how much two segments would cost?

A lot. A lot. I mean, do we have the money to pay for two segments? No. I think I I'm not on enough that I don't have a lot of time in the bank that I ought to be.

So you need me.

So you need me?

Okay, that's fine.

So in order for him to fill out his time sheet, we will actually beg, Britt is asking me to keep mine, and the answer is a resounding yes. When we come back, the vice presidential pick should Donald Trump get it. And Britt Hume's predictions tonight. You listen to the Brian Killmeat Show on the road in beautiful New Hampshire. Covering this election year like no other, it's Brian Kelmead.

Information you want, truth you demand. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. was thrown to the walls in the late 40s, thought his career was over, all done and dusted. And then boom, he comes back from here to eternity, he wins an Oscar for best supporting actor and his career becomes one of the most iconic in the history of American celebrity show business. Donald Trump.

is on the verge of pulling off a similar Come back. Because I think if it's Trump v. Biden, I think right now looking at all the polling for Biden, looking at the state of him, unable to basically string a sentence together or walk in a straight line without falling over, my money would be on Donald Trump to win. And if he gets back in the White House, it is the greatest comeback in American political history. Well, Pierce Morgan on Britt Hume's favorite show, One Nation, Saturdays at 9 o'clock, gave that analogy.

Britt, you always have a perspective on these things. We know a lot about Trump is unprecedented. Do you think the analogy works? And I don't know. I didn't look this up.

I don't even know. In the 1940s, did they think Sinatra was done? I don't remember that, but I was only about four years old. Right. I mean, how old is this guy?

Yeah. Well, look, based on current polling, that looks like a pretty good forecast. What I'd say about this is this. People frequently have told me, and I'm sure you've heard this many times from people, no way Joe Biden got 81 million votes in 2020. I agree with that.

He didn't get 81 million votes. Donald Trump got 81 million votes for Biden. Nobody motivates Democrats like Donald Trump. And their fear and loathing of him is not to be underestimated. And to a great extent, in the last year or more, Trump has been out of sight.

Now, it seems silly to say that. He just won Iowa, and he's visible now. But for a long time, he wasn't. And all the stuff that people hated about him was muted to some extent. And I think it's helped him politically, which is odd, but I think that's what's happened.

The Democrats have not even Begun to get started yet on how they're going to go after Trump. Everything that the people didn't like about Donald Trump is going to be advertised to a fairly well emphasized, shown in videos on January 6th until we can't stand it any longer, and so on.

So I think you have to be cognizant of the fact that there is an abiding fear and loathing of Donald Trump which motivates people against him. There's a tremendous amount of stuff that motivates people in his favor. I'm not underestimating that. That accounts for his current standing within the Republican Party and all the rest of it. But don't underestimate the Trump effect on the other party.

And the other thing that the First Story in Politico, and they're almost rooting for it, by the way, the headlines written, is that Trump loses votes if he's convicted on anything. And that changes the sum for some of the electorate. And we know this is going to be a close race. But pushback of what I just said is they're playing the Hitler card in January. He's Hitler.

Okay. Twice. Fantastic. And then they're doing the January 6th thing as if it was yesterday and the only thing. As if you, as bad as September 11th, if George Bush spent every day talking about how great he reacted on September 11th, you have to wait, okay.

We're never going to forget that day either. What about the economy? Yeah, exactly. And I just think that there is somewhat of a danger. We saw that play.

We keep seeing the January 6th play. We saw the prime time show produced by an ABC producer, no offense to the place you used to work. And then we see the Liz Cheney book. We get it. We understand all the negative stuff.

And then he comes out in all these cases, maybe as some people go. And the other thing that we're not taking into account, perhaps, is the track record of Joe Biden. If you look at the border, you look at international affairs, if you look at what's happening with the economy, you look at interest rates and inflation we've been dealing with for the last three years. I mean, almost everything he looked to reverse is blown up in his face. And it makes that report card from the previous guy look better.

Trump's best hope is the fact that this is probably, in my view, the weakest incumbent president politically and policy-wise as well that I can remember. Remember seeing. I mean, he has really, really got a catalogue of failures and things that people don't like. That's and so we have this paradoxical situation, Brian, where each candidate is the other's best hope. Interesting.

But I'll tell you one thing. When people say 33% approval rating, well, Barack Obama had low numbers, and Bill Clinton had no numbers after the impeachment, although they intended to go up. They could all do their thing. They could get on the stump and do it. They could sell theirselves and they could change what they're doing, be more aggressive, less aggressive, whatever.

Joe Biden is not capable, and I think you're with me on this, of going out and doing three rallies a day. He's not capable of changing his mind. He can't do an interview that's going to turn sentiment on. That's right, which means that it's not clear that going and campaigning is going to help. Yes.

Because people look at him and the first thing they think is, oh, man, he is feeble. Right. And he is. Let's face it. Look, I'm the same age as he is, basically.

A little bit younger. Could you be president? No. You could. I think you could.

Not a chance. Allison, do you think he could? Thank you. President of what? You could do it, and you would put people in charge that would be able to maybe to go to the Middle Eastern conference.

I'd have to put somebody else in charge of everything.

Well, put it this way: you know who to appoint. I think you could do it. And the reason why I'm not asking your prediction is because. I don't do them. Because you don't want to be wrong.

Look. Doesn't help you to be wrong, and the predictions are sort of a silly sport because you don't really know. Nobody really knows. Yup, and that was Allison's idea. She said, Do predictions.

And I told you, it would just be silly. It's unbelievable how I have to take the heads. Shannon Bream's next.

Now, if I asked her for predictions, will she say the same thing? You don't know. Yeah. You don't know if she'll say anything. I know this, though.

From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Kilmead. When Chris Chrissy dropped out of the race, it made a lot of people in Haley's orbit think she may actually be able to win the state of New Hampshire. And you saw things start to get really close. A wide race suddenly narrowing. There were a few polls that even had it inside single digits.

But just in the last couple of days, something else changed. With Vake Ramaswamy dropping out on caucus night, and you can see here, just in the last week, Nikki Haley's number is going up a little bit. Donald Trump's number is going up even more than that. Right now, that race solidly into double digits, maybe in more of the range of 14 or 15 points.

So that is ABC's uh great um analyst, Rick Klein, when he was on with uh Fox News Sunday. But when now he's on at ABC, I don't think he's as great as he used to be. Are you dissing dissin us here? Not you. Yeah, no, but Rick Klein was on with Brett, I remember, a few times, right?

So now he's with ABC. Shannon Bream is here for Fox News Sunday, and also she's a Fox News Legal correspondent. Do you get two separate checks? No, I don't. I'm not like you.

You have many income streams from this network. Right, right. And you d demand that they pay them all separately. Every hour. Does it go into separate accounts?

How much do you make an hour, like three thousand dollars? I don't know. I mean, I don't really make it up, but they do pay me in the hour. Like, every hour, someone will come in and drop off money. Cash?

Yes. Pennies? Is that wrong? I want them to pay you in pennies every hour. I'm worried with these 87,000 new IRS agents are going to catch up to me.

So stop talking about all your money. All right.

Well, stop asking me. Why? I'm a journalist. That's what I do. I got to get to the bottom of the truth.

I'm sorry.

So today, I'm going to have a chance to go on President Trump's plane and go to his first event. But the reason why he didn't have a morning event is because he chose to be in the court with that defamation trial. But what did we just learn?

Well, there's all kinds of stuff going on. Apparently, a juror doesn't feel well. And one of his attorneys, Alina Hoppe, is his main attorney. And there are reports that there are some illnesses that might. Start with the C word that might be involving some of the people in the courtroom.

So, you know, abundance of caution. But that kind of throws things into a little bit of chaos.

So it's interesting because he says he was leaning over, whispering to her during the court case, which clients often do to their attorneys. And I'm wondering, is he worried? I don't think he worries about anything. I really don't think that's worth it. I don't think he likes having COVID.

No, I think he did not have a good experience the first time around with COVID. But I think that he's going to just stay on the campaign trail until he tests positive. Does he have to be. In the courtroom. Not this case.

I mean, there are some cases that he has to be there. This one is optional, but I think for him, he wants to show up for a number of reasons. I mean, we know it plays well with his base that, you know, I'm dragged into this courtroom and, you know, all of those kinds of arguments. But I think that he wants to look those, you know, folks in the eye there and say, I'm not ashamed. I didn't do this.

I maintain my innocence and I'm going to keep showing up. Right. And he's going to do that and he's going to talk more about that. But I'm just wondering, will it give him an opportunity to lessen the fine? He could be fined up to $10 million.

Is that on top of the $5 million he was told to pay her? Yeah, that's my understanding: is that, you know, the first part was just about the culpability, and now we're arguing about how much she went back to say, hey, he's gone out there and made more comments. Let's bring him back in here and talk about a bigger amount. Right. When you have an accuser and she might be 100% accurate or inaccurate, I think the detail, you know, this because you did this, didn't you?

What? Didn't you do sexual harassment law?

So I didn't do criminal law. But yeah, I did sex harassment law.

So, you know, should you have to be forced to narrow down the year? In what you'd have. Listen, any case that I was involved in, we would have made great hay of that, as they say, because you want to know. But remember, when we saw this with Justice Kavanaugh, now Justice Kavanaugh, there was also a lot of gray area with his accuser, the primary accuser, Blasey Ford. And People who say believe women will give a lot of leeway on that point, and others who say we also have due process and you've got to protect people who are accused, let's at least get it to a year.

Or a city. Yeah, forget about the time. Yeah. Okay. Pyramid scheme, January 29th.

I'm even aware of this. I got all the listings of all the lawsuits. He's facing a lawsuit over a pyramid scheme, class action suit. Do you know anything about that? You can just wave it off.

Not a lot, but there is, yeah, there's a huge list of stuff he's got this year, multiple for him and his company.

So then we got the Nevada primary on the 6th. That was on the 29th, right? And then on the 8th, oral arguments for the Colorado ballot case. That's the Supreme Court. What does he have to do on that?

Does he have to pay attorneys to go fight for him? Does the Republican Party fight for him? There are a couple of different parties to that one. The Colorado Republican Party is involved, but he also, yeah, has his own legal team fighting there in Supreme Court. And, you know, those litigators are not inexpensive.

And so, yeah, that's another litigation situation for him. But do you believe with conventional wisdom that this could be a 9-0 decision, the Supreme Court saying you can't kick this guy off? Yeah, I think it's possible. I think that they're going to look at it and see a lot of problems with the underlying decision. And it's not just.

About him. They have to think about any presidential contender out there. And I think if the justices are being fair, yeah, conventional wisdom is he's going to do well. Super Tuesday is March 5th. On March 4th, he's supposed to be on the January 6th case.

I don't think it happens. I mean, anything the case happens. I think that there will be enough delays that you don't start on March 4th. Because he wants immunity. He said, listen, I was president then.

You're not going to go convict me on things you don't think I should have done.

So, what are his chances there?

Well, so he's argued that at the appellate court, that one level below the Supreme Court, I would imagine we get a decision from them pretty quickly. But he can also then ask for an on-bond hearing, which is, I want the whole court, the whole appellate court, to rehear this case. That could get denied. Then he says, Well, I want the Supreme Court to decide it.

So there are ways to run out the clock a bit if you want to get past that March 4th start. And I would say the odds are it doesn't start March 4th. But do you think summer? Yeah, I think that's possible. I mean, the Supreme Court has put lightning speed on the things that are involving the president.

They didn't get into this immunity issue because they wanted to let it play out in the lower court. They don't even have to take the case. I think they will because of the import of it. But they could say, okay, whatever the lower court rules, we're not getting involved. One of the arguments was the famous thing: you could shoot somebody while you're president and not get tried because you have immunity because you're president.

Did they have a good answer for that? The judges, many of them, did not think so. In the court, they were not impressed with that argument. Brett asked the president about this, former president about this, I think it was Saturday night. And interesting answer from him: he said, Well, what we were talking about is the assassination of a foreign leader, something that you could debate, drone strikes and those kinds of things.

He very much wanted to wave it away from the understanding that most people had was we're talking about a domestic political rival. Right, because you know, Barack Obama was killing people in the middle of Africa. You know, it doesn't matter. And what if they turned around and go, you know, you killed the wrong guy? I'm going to sue you now that you're out.

So he's worried about Barack Obama being sued, or he's worried about the legacy, which is not wrong, about suing people. For example, you might say George W. Bush lied about Saddam Hussein and Webb's construction. My son or daughter died.

Okay, let's sue him. And President Trump has been smart to bring that up to give it a broader context. Because when you think about, you know, what most of us thought when the judge brought that up in the court, oh, we're talking about assassinating a domestic political rival. Like, you got to shut that down. I mean, no one thinks that you get immunity for it.

What about the documents case? Is it an effective argument to say I need clearance to go through all these documents? And to do that, I've got literally a million pages to go through. That's been one of their arguments. And because of so many of the early motions and the documents and all the things that are going on with that, a lot of people think that trial does not start in May either.

So it doesn't start in May, but if all this stuff's hidden turbo speed in July, August, and September, does it change the complexion of the race? I'm sure you saw that political story saying that if convicted, Donald Trump loses some support. And that is something that, you know, you're urging GOP voters to go with you and take that chance. You know, it's something I asked J.D. Vance, Senator, about yesterday on Fox News Sunday.

Are you telling people to gamble a bit with their vote? And he's like, you know, obviously he's not going to be convicted. And I think enough people stay. With him. The people I talked to here on the ground in New Hampshire about where does the conviction make you go for him, they were all like, it makes me believe the government's against him and double down for him.

So he knew that would be the case, but we'll see. But the whole thing is, to me, it reminds me of the Access Hollywood thing. It's the worst thing ever. Can you believe when we never had this happen before? You just drop out and then people get used to it.

It simmers down and then he goes to the election, regains that speed. And he actually: if those things all trickle into summertime, the Mar-a-Lago documents case or the January 6th case, I mean, we're in the middle of conventions. And for a federal criminal trial, the defendant has to be there unless there's been some kind of special arrangement. He's going to be sitting potentially in courtrooms while the conventions are happening. I mean, that could happen.

But why is it that they're in such a rush?

Well, that's his question. His legal team says, why did you wait two or three years to bring some of these cases? And now we got to get them done like tomorrow. Understood.

So tonight, do you get the sense that New Hampshire knows a decisive win for the president, former President Delivers the nomination. Do you sense that the $4 million of ads that Nikki Healy bought in South Carolina should dispel any thought that she's going to quit after this? Man, between here and there, there's a lot of road. There's that Nevada situation, which is really interesting and confusing. Caucus primary.

Yeah. But gosh, February 24th is a long time from now. And they will all say, as Ron DeSantis was telling us last week, we're in it for the long haul. We're going to keep picking up delegates. We're going to go through March 5th.

So they're all going to say that. But we'll see. New Hampshire, as you know, has done some funky things. They've done some surprising things. And with hundreds of thousands of undeclared voters who can show up and vote in the GOP primaries, most of the polls that we've been looking at are of expected, likely GOP primary voters.

Most of those polls then are not testing the hundreds of thousands of undeclared who could still show up, and that could make a big difference. Can I just say thanks for saying funky? Because I didn't think we were capable. I don't think we were on a delay. Are you going to have to bleep that?

No, well, I didn't know if we were on a delay or not. I'm thinking, Shannon Bream, no one's on the button for the next one. I found the other day, I found out that the word freaking. Is apparently something that gets bleeped in places. Really?

Yeah. Not a gut felt. Nothing. That whole show was one big bleep. Right, yeah, we don't really have a good time.

Parties.

Now, he calls you evil. Are you?

Well, I think that all of us have good and evil in us, and I'm fighting to let the good win every day. Not successful. I'm failing miserably.

Some days better than others.

So, Shannon, when we come back, what r what what a what about a relationship that just emerged that should get everybody's attention? Which relationship? Bit of a riddle, right? Yeah. Called the very good tease.

Okay, yeah, you are the best. That's what you're known for. Really? Brian the tease killed me. Back in a moment.

On the road to 2024, the New Hampshire primary. Trump is superior to the current incumbent, Joe Biden. Yes, my endorsement. He was very gracious and he endorsed me. I appreciate that.

The two-person race is on. He's just not at the same level he was at 2016. I think we're seeing some of that. Keep it here on the Brian Kill Mead Show. A talk show that's real.

This is the Brian Kill Me Show. This headline, you might have caught your attention. GOP donors are privately pushing to Senator Tim Scott to give more details about his private life, your single status. What is your status?

Well, obviously, at this point, I'm taking the wonderful girlfriend, and we have a wonderful relationship. The good news is God has blessed me with a smart Christian woman. That's great news. But more importantly, why are the headlines there? The headlines are there because as I rise in the polls, as people show up at my town halls, it scares even my opponents.

We met your mom when we meet her. Will we meet your girlfriend?

Okay. Great. Where is she hiding? Why is Brian Kilmead single shaming him? This reminds me of my mom before I met my husband.

Like, headline, Alyssa is still single.

It does remind you of every woman that's ever walked the earth has been asked.

Well, where's the man?

So there you go. That is the view, thinking I'm single, shaming Senator Tim Scott. Am I? And do you think I forced him to propose? I think that you pushed this across the finish line.

You think so? After that interview, he went ring shopping.

So the way that's a rumor. He proposed and got an acceptance from Mindy Nose, his girlfriend, who's an interior designer.

So she doesn't have to be a girlfriend. She's got another career. They call it a whirlwind. Would you call it a whirlwind? I would.

I think, yeah, me, but when you're an adult, I think you know what you're looking for. Right, and you think she knew. I think so. You know me. I love this because they met at church.

They were in a Bible study together. This is right up my alley. The women of the Bible have spoken. Right. And this is.

Do you think there'll be a Tim Scott chapter? I'm going to have to do a, you know, I'm going to have to do another book. We did love Stories of the Bible, and maybe I add some chapters, and maybe Tim and Mindy get in there. Maybe it's just their story. I'm going to have to talk to him about the exclusive rights.

One story. We'll have to see if we can make a movie. Do you believe that he is a legitimate vice presidential candidate now that he's rounded out his life? I do. I don't think, obviously, the proposal had anything to do with it.

I think that he had such a resonance with people in Iowa. They loved him. They didn't need what he was offering because they felt like evangelicals felt like they were getting it from Trump, the pro-life stuff, and whatever. Because he's so religious. He is.

You say that like it's a bad thing. No, no, no, he is. Don't make me punch you in the face. He was asked, what's your favorite Bible passage? He says he likes all of them.

Oh, wait, we were talking about President Trump? Yeah. Now, because Tim Scott quotes scripture all the time. No, Tim Scott's the one. I do think it's right to like all of the Bible.

Right. I support that position. Absolutely. But you know, you saw in Iowa when Tim Scott was actively campaigning there, people loved kind of this hopeful, optimistic thing from him. When you talk to him on policy, banking, and all of the different committees and things he served on, he's a very deep guy.

And I don't think people get to hear him talk about policy as much. They want to talk about his personal life and what a nice guy he is. But I think he would bring a lot to the ticket. Right. Other people, Elise Stefanik, Christy Noam.

They're saying Sarah Huckabee Sanders. I mean, I think eventually she's going to run for president herself.

Well, why not start out as vice president? Right. I mean, is she old enough? It's going to spring where I did have to Google people because I was like, are these people 35 years old? I did that for Elise Stephaniek.

I'm like, yep, she is. Yeah. They're old enough. Christy Noam, Byron Donalds, who probably another, and Lee Zeldon, I know, is being screened and vetted. Yeah, and I agree.

So the big thing they had the other night when Tim Scott came in and endorsed him, you saw Lee Zeldon and Elise Stephaniek there on the stage with him. The next day, I went to a Trump event because we visited all the different events for the candidates here in New Hampshire. It was a packed house, and President Trump wasn't even going to be there. It was Elise Stephaniek, and people were so excited to see her.

So she's got buzz too. I think they all do. That's who I was told not to do predictions. This is some professional. Wait, if Britt Hume is.

Listen, we trust the godfather. He says, don't make predictions. We shouldn't. I don't know. But I want to.

What is Vegas saying? Because you know they have betting odds on everything. They probably got odds on all these names. Right. And they don't want to lose money, so they put some research in.

Is that what you're saying? I've heard that.

Well, put it this way: the betting odds right now are for Trump to win again. Can you imagine if Donald Trump won again? What do you mean? We're covering the campaign. We have to imagine that he could.

Well, I know. But can you imagine how? Not like if there's no campaign, there's no way. No, but can you imagine how far that's been we have? We have ninety-one charges and four indictments, and you don't.

I don't. I don't. We don't want any of that. But you know, it doesn't matter. Even if he were convicted on charges and sitting in a jail cell, which there's a lot of here between here and there, he could run for president from jail if he wanted to.

So you're not going to give my your prediction? On V P or President winning? I think between now and November, there's a whole lot of politics that's going to happen and a whole lot of trials that are going to happen. You and I were going over them during the commercial: all the state trials, the federal trials. No, that was actually on the year.

Oh, were we talking about that? I should be more careful about what I'm saying. I said some stuff I don't want on the air.

Well, it's too late now. It is way too late. But the whole thing is too, if convicted, how many votes does you need and lose what should I ask Donald Trump tonight? Are you going to be hanging out with him? That's right, you're getting on the plane.

Yeah, I want to give more of a slice of life. Like, what are you dealing with? Who's going to go over it right before he goes on stage? Yeah, I know he writes in Sharpie. I want to ask him Chick-fil-A versus Kentucky Fried Chicken, because that's a national debate he needs to weigh in on.

Well, I don't ever hear him talk about Chick-fil-A, do you? Chick-fil-A is actually good for you. Kentucky Fried Chicken is not. That's what I'm saying. I need to know where he falls on these important issues.

All right.

But see, I'm on shows of substance, not like a story. I also need to know why. Is Barron six foot seven? Yes, Fox News Sunday is very gossipy. Entertainment's in night.

That's it. That's what we do on Sunday morning. And I was saying that you should really get more of a substance. Does Barron have lifts in his shoes, or is he really 6'7? You know what?

That would be fantastic. I am stealing that, Channon. I'm going to write it down for you. Right. Just go.

I just want to tell you something that's out there, and I just want you to, if you don't think it's true, you've got to do it. I need you to address it. Right. Does Barron have lifts in his shoes? He's about 6'7.

Or is he? Is he taller than Prisinkis? I don't know. Who said you don't even know who that is? I don't.

Is that a sports person? He's seven, two. Who does he play for? Um, now he plays for the Celtics. He played for a lot of teams.

He had a little problem with discipline. Oh. He also had a brother that wanted him to make more money.

Okay. Here's my question. Can you?

Well, Brother's agent is tricky, but can you wear lifts in your sneakers? Like, say you're playing basketball at court, could you? No doubt. Would it help you? Yeah.

Oh, I think it could if it lifts you up. Like, for example, insoles, there's athletic insoles where it lifts your archaeology. Do you have flat feet? No. No.

Oh. Not that I know of. I do. I wear these little straps around my arches. No, you don't.

No, these are actually insoles I'm wearing now. I want you to take your shoes off right now so I can see. All right.

These are actual insoles. What is with the shoe-tying situation you have there? People, I'm going to tweet out Brian's shoes right now. You need to see what's going on in there. Thanks so much for listening.

Thanks to everyone who showed up and showed you that LNOSA. Thank you, Shannon Bream. Bye. Listen to the show ad-free on Fox News Podcast Plus, on Apple Podcast, Amazon Music with your Prime membership, or subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Mm-hmm.