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The Republican presidential debate is underway, with Donald Trump not attending. Ron DeSantis is facing criticism for his comments on supporting Trump, and the debate is seen as a crucial moment for the candidates. Meanwhile, the Biden administration is facing scrutiny over its handling of the economy and climate change. The FBI is also under fire for its handling of the Hunter Biden investigation, and the Georgia indictment against Trump is being closely watched.

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Kill me. Everyone back in action today. Hope you had a fantastic weekend. We're coming up on our last real full week of the summer. Many of you are away.

Many of you are listening for the first time for that. I appreciate it. With us this hour is going to be Congressman Jason Smith, the House Ways and Means Chairman. We'll talk about Bidenomics and more. And then Byron York at the bottom of the hour talking about preview and reviewing what will be week one of the debates.

Of course, looking at the fourth indictment for President Trump, who tells us through Truth Social, he won't be there.

So let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. This will have been one of the largest strategic errors I've ever seen a prosecutor make. She had, again, the strongest case against Donald Trump on the fake electors. She should have brought that alone and instead, you know, she wanted the bigger head.

Right. And Preet Bagara was trying to get a word in. Yeah, it's true. You overcharged. Trump on trial.

Has Mark Meadows flipped? The Georgia State Trial. Trial screwed everything up for Jack Smith's prosecutions? Will any trial take place before Election Day? We'll have it all.

Number two. And I believe that one reason that Hunter was CC'd on those emails where Joe Biden was using a fake name is so Hunter could prove to the Ukrainian oligarch: look, help is on the way. James Comer, details on the deal that wasn't for Hunter.

So clearly, the whistleblowers stopped Hunter from skating.

Now, new reevaluations of VP Biden. Turns out he's got some alias emails. He was worried about being hacked. Could they lead to proof positive he set up Hunter's deals and fired prosecutors and more to line his pockets? We will see.

Number one. No one in this country even knew who I was six months ago. And so I'm looking forward to introducing myself to the people. We feel really good going into the debate. I love debates and I'm looking forward to it.

I feel like I've been preparing for this first Republican presidential debate my whole life. Debate Week is here. And who is in and who is out and who chooses to miss? We set the table, bring you the latest from the trail, and love them or not, we look at the over-the-top attacks on Governor DeSantis, the latest hit priest in the New York Times. We always talk about Donald Trump.

And we always talk about his being attacked. I know somebody brings on himself. He doesn't care. And when you attack him, he ups the ante. And that's always been his way.

You come at me with atomic weapons, I come at you with 10 nuclear weapons. It's always been his way since the 80s. And he said it in his book, and he was always told that by Roy Cohn. But if anyone thinks that a Republican Not name Donald Trump. It's not going to be under the same attacks because they're not like Donald Trump.

You are mistaken. Just look at Ron DeSantis. I mean, I know. The Trump team came at him with twenty million dollars of ads before he even declared. That's tough.

But I'm talking about the sixty minutes piece that came at him, and then we're seeing now the New York Times comes at him about his Ivy League education. Really? They're taking Disney side, of course, in the battle with Disney. Disney blew it themselves, decided to go against his legislation that he passed. He took them on, took out their autonomous status.

On top of that, made some hideous moves and movies. And now they've upped their rates when it comes to these amusement parks. But no, it's Ron DeSantis who's the bad guy. And what happens is. At this moment when we're talking about inter inter Party fights for the Republicans, so they're taking this opportunity to take down the guy that is a solid second place.

Now, he has lost ratings. But if you look at the New York Times piece, it is just taking him apart because he went to Yale and Harvard, saying that how dare he be anti-Avi League, yet he went to Yale and Harvard. Listen. If you read the story, nothing about it is odd. He is against the Ivy League mentality, like this or my colleague Pete Hegseth.

He went to Princeton. He should be proud of that to be able to get in. To be able to play basketball. He should be proud of it, but he's not now. And then you have Ron DeSantis.

He's proud that he got to Yale. He got it through baseball. He got great grades, but he's a middle-class guy with no legacy and got into Yale and became captain of the baseball team. His grades were through the roof while having three jobs. I would not run from that.

But if saying, well, Ron DeSantis and this woke personality and this whole thing that he's doing about pushing back against the man is not true. Yeah, it is. Same way it was with Ted Cruz. I imagine with Kayleigh McInaney. These guys and these ladies went to Ivy League schools.

And they looked around and said, Wow, I'm really the minority here, not well black or white or Hispanic. Not that I'm a woman or a man, is that I'm Conservative, and it fortified their belief that they were on the right track. They should not run for that. And if you look at the New York Times story, it tried desperately to land, but it didn't. And I'm just taken aback by the length they go to dethrone and defame Ron DeSantis.

He's solid, really good candidate, unbelievably bright. He is, you know, he's not Bill Clinton on the stump, but he's solid. Yeah. Better than Al Gore ever was. You could say that George W.

Bush, I thought, was very personable, too. People didn't like John McCain, thought he was too abrupt. I don't know. Governor Huckabee was fantastic, but the guy that won was Mitt Romney was stiffer than that.

So people have pluses and minuses. But take note, right now, CBS poll shows that Donald Trump's up 61 to 35 over DeSantis, over 20%. For Tim Scott, 18% for Ramaswamy. Yeah, 18% for Ramaswamy, 14% for Haley, 14% for Pence. That's according to CBSUGov poll and the GOP primary voters saying definitively where they stand.

And because of that, Trump's not coming. He's up on the CBS poll overall, 62.16 over DeSantis and seven for Ramaswamy. And then Mike Pence, five. Haley's got three. Scott's got three.

Haley's got two. Christie's got two. 538 polls shows Trump's up 53 to 14. Ramaswamy's eight. Pence is 4.7.

Debating means a lot. And it's an interesting challenge not having Trump there. When when asked GOP voters how much should they talk about Trump in the debate? Guess what? 91% say make the case for themselves.

Only 9% make your case against Trump. I don't know what that will do to Chris Christie's strategy. Also, when asked, On the CBS poll, what do GOP voters want to hear? 86% economy, 83% violent crime, 81% illegal immigration. Here's how they're all preparing.

Cut one. No one in this country even knew who I was six months ago. And so I'm looking forward to introducing myself to the people. I think Donald Trump is free to make whatever decision he feels is right for him. We feel really good going into the debate.

I love debates, and I'm looking forward to it. And I think it's a great opportunity for Americans to start focusing on who's going to lead us after 2024. I'm just going to be me. I mean, I feel like I've been preparing for this first Republican presidential debate my whole life.

So I think Pence will be solid, governor, vice president, congressman. Obviously, he knows things, got the experience. And he also says he's different from President Trump more than just January sixth. He says I'm different when it comes to entitlements and I'm different when it comes to Ukraine and being the arsenal of democracy.

So that's interesting. He says he wanted President Trump to show up. He also would be interesting if he was, but Vivek Ramaswamy is the only one who said President really shouldn't show up for the first couple of debates. He totally understands it with the lead like he has.

So that's probably an interesting way Ramaswamy saying, I want President Trump to be my mentor, but it's my time right now. For Governor Ron DeSantis, he is having an interesting situation where everyone's jumping on everything he says.

Now, he's got to separate himself from Trump, why he's even running. At the same time, get Trump's voters and say why he'd be different. He's more effective. He says he'd do certain things different. He said he'd do a better job at draining the swamp.

He said Trump didn't drain the swamp. I personally think it's impossible to drain the swamp. But they jump on every word he says.

Now, listen to this and tell me if you have a problem with it, because a lot of Trump supporters do. Here we go. Cut to. You could be the most conservative person since sliced bread unless you're kissing his rear end. They will somehow call you a rhino.

If all we are is listless vessels that's just supposed to follow whatever happens to come down the pike on Truth Social every morning, that's not going to be a durable movement.

So he said that, and people say listless vessels, and the Trump camp said this is like saying bucket of deplorables. He's trying to say, obviously, to Trump voters, don't be a listless vessel. Pick your head up, look around, and know there's alternatives. It's not Joe Biden. Got it.

I signed a pledge to sign whoever the Republican nominee is. But don't be a listless vessel. Demand more from your politicians and ask yourself what they stand for, how they'll rule, and how you want it to be different. And if that rule comes up and says, okay, I still want Trump, that's fine. But demand to know where people stand.

And he wants to be the alternative, obviously.

So. We will see. one eight six six four oh eight seven six six nine. Do you think the Republicans are always going to be treated like Trump is treated if you are a frontrunner? I say absolutely yes.

Just wait. If Vivek rises, you wait where they come after him. They'll come after him differently, but you wait for them to come after him. When we come back, Congressman Jason Smith, we'll talk about Bidenomics, why the President's running on it, where we're at right now. Also, about the despicable move for this President to chop up and sell off pennies on the dollar, a border wall we all paid for under the Trump administration that was in the desert.

But when they pass a piece of legislation that was going to demand that Democrats signed off on two in the Senate, that they start putting it up. He started selling it off. To me, there's got to be a legal angle on that. I'm going to ask Congressman Jason Smith, Republican out of Missouri, about that. You're listening to the Brian Killmeat show.

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He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Kilmeade. We've learned that when he was receiving emails pertaining to Ukraine, his son Hunter was copied on him, which we've always heard that the White House has said that Hunter Biden wasn't an employee of the government. He wasn't any part of the government. They couldn't understand why House Republicans on the Oversight Committee were investigating Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden because Hunter wasn't a part of the government.

Well, if that were true, then why was he receiving emails? from the government. With a pseudonym from his dad.

So, Congressman Jason Smith, the pot thickens. You're the House and Wayne's Committee Chairperson. Do you care? Should anyone care about this, that the Pres Vice President was using an alias? I absolutely don't know.

Absolutely. Brian, it's great to be with you, but we absolutely need to pay attention to this. And I strongly support Comer pushing the National Archives for these records, these unredacted documents. And I think what we said all along is we're going to follow the facts, myself, Jim Jordan, and Jamie Comer through the Ways and Means Judiciary and Oversight Committees. And it's amazing.

There's a lot of facts that we're following. But most importantly, Brian, there's 13 people that we have requested for them to come before Congress. We requested at the end of June, and it's 13 people that were in attendance of an October 7th, 2022 meeting where Mr. Weiss was there with our IRS whistleblowers. And he said at that time that.

Basically, the buck doesn't stop with him. It's above him where the decisions are being made. And he's denying that. The whistleblowers are countering that. And so we need the other people in the room to come forward.

Also, Congressman Smith, we find out in reading the New York Times story the reason why the whole Deal blew up was because of whistleblowers, and because you guys brought them forward to testify, and no one could find a political motive. Only the fact is that it was pretty clear that this was not a real investigation that took place over five years, and these guys could not find a political motive, so they had to listen, and the embarrassment got too great. How does that make you feel? You know, Brian, whenever the whistleblowers came to me as chairman of the Ways and Means Committee, and I sat down in the depositions and asked them questions, I saw how sincere and how real Mr. Ziegler and Mr.

Shapley are, and how they just cared about their job and they didn't like the injustice that was happening. The two-tier legal system: one, if your last name's Biden, one is if you're everyone else. And they highlighted numerous aspects where the Department of Justice came in and delayed the prosecution in such a way that the statute of limitations expired for the most egregious proposed tax crimes of 2014 and 15, where they divulged information, where DOJ divulged information to Hunter Biden's lawyers.

So that they would give them a heads up before any search warrants, and where, of course, they denied the ability to bring charges in other jurisdictions. Why in the world, Brian? Would the Attorney General of the United States Put appoint Weiss as special counsel after he already created the sweetheart agreement that he was the architect of. If Weiss had already always had the authority, according to the Attorney General and according to Weiss, I'd say the whistleblowers are the only ones that have been consistent throughout this whole process. The stories have changed for the Bidens and for Mr.

Weiss.

So the assistant to David Weiss is Leslie Wolfe. It turns out she's got ties and donated to the Obama campaign.

Next thing you know, that was embarrassing for them. They had her step aside, yet she was the one brokering the deal most of the time. She was the one who told them, don't go into the guest house, and then gave them a heads up before they got there and said, you know, you're not going to probe into Joe. I don't understand this. And I really don't understand it.

They said the defense said we will put Joe Biden on the stand. Why would David Weiss care if they put Joe Biden on the stand? If they want to put the president on the stand to embarrass himself in every way, and we all know, why do you care about that? You know, one of the things The American people have been surprised by what came out through the whistleblowers and the information of how the investigation worked out. But the one group, the one body that was not surprised about anything is the Department of Justice because they knew how everything went throughout the whole process.

So it's no shock for Mr. Weiss, it's no shock for Leslie Wolfe, and it's no shock for the Attorney General of the United States. It's quite disturbing of their actions. There was a point that, like you said, they needed to search the president's guest house because that's where Hunter Biden was residing. And Leslie Wolfe would not allow it to happen because, under no circumstances, can we look at the vice president's home?

I want you to hear what people say as an excuse for the pseudo-names. Jay Carney, June 2013, when it was found that Obama had pseudo-emails that were his, but under a different name, CUT 24. Having alternate. email addresses for cabinet secretaries and other high profile officials makes eminent sense, much as it does for columnists, for example, of major publications who provide email addresses for their readers but have alternate work email addresses so that the if they are inundated in one account with either Public emails or spam or the like that they can continue to use their other account for normal work. And that is the case with.

Officials of this administration, officials of the previous administrations who have had email addresses. And the fundamental question here, in terms of FOIA requests and congressional inquiries, is that all these email addresses are included. Your a your answer to that? Bright. It's a consistent pattern of how the Bidens have been operated.

Devin Archer testified before the oversight committee, and Joe Biden was, quote, referred to as the brand. There's other people that came forward that's referred to Joe Biden as the big guy. There was over 20 LLCs that Jamie Comer have found and discovered where the Biden family would use to hide and transfer money from different entities in Romania, China, the Ukraine, other countries. There's a reason why they used fake names. There's a reason why they use multiple LLCs.

They're trying to make sure people can't figure out what they're doing. And were they susceptible to the FOIA request? When they gave you these emails, did they say, oh, by the way, this is Joe Biden? This is guy, I guess his name is Reynolds. This is Joe Biden.

Did they tell you that? They did not. And in fact, most of those emails were redacted in such a way. That's why we've asked the National Archives to give us unredacted emails so we can actually see the content of the material of these emails and we can continue to follow the facts. And, Congressman, you know what's a shame?

You're doing better work in six months than Weiss did in five years. And yet there seems to be a lack of curiosity in what this guy was up to. And now you guys are up to $50 million. Where is this money? Final thought.

It's disappointing, but just look at the net worth of how the entire Biden family has increased over the last decade. That's where the money has gone. We saw $140,000 Porsche to Hunter Biden, an $80,000 Diamond Reef. Whistleblower highlighted numerous, numerous examples. But now he's living squatting over in Malibu and painting through a straw.

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You can believe whatever you want about the 2020 election. That is your right. I understand that. I have no problem with that. But the thing is, that was three years ago.

And if you're still mad about that, Quit complaining about that. Sign up to be a poll worker, be a poll watcher, get involved in the process.

So that is Brian Kemp at the Eric Erickson event over the weekend, and they're still talking about all the indictments. And the more we hear about this prosecutor in Georgia trying 19 people who almost prevent it from being tried this year. Byron York joins us now, Chief Political Correspondent, Washington Examiner, Fox's contributor. And one of the cool things is. That you'll find with Byron and just about every other expert.

No one's been down this road before, Byron. I mean, we could say Grover, Cleveland, I wasn't there. You weren't there. Indictments, we've never had one, let alone four.

So game on to everyone, just be humble and tell me what you think. First off, Brian Kemp is saying this is pure politi, this is political to wait two and a half years to charge the way they're doing. And it's hard to argue with politics playing a role with Jack Smith. Why else would they rush to get this done before the year's end?

Well, it's just a fact that the Justice Department, the Biden Justice Department, kind of dithered for more than a year. before they brought any charges. And as a matter of fact, there were some people on the left who were unhappy. About that, because so much of the Jack Smith indictment, the federal indictment, actually mirrors what the January 6th committee in the House. Found out.

And so when the indictment comes out, there were people like Chris Hayes of MSNBC. Who are saying, why wasn't this done a year ago? We had all the January 6th committee stuff, and now we've waited so long and it's clearly going to interfere with the election. But you know, on the on the unprecedented part of it, any time something kind of unusual happens, I certainly think and start looking around and says, well, has this ever happened before? Is there any sort of guidance you can get from this earlier events?

And the answer with this is no. Even if Trump were not indicted, We haven't had a president, a former president, run for his old job again in living memory. You're right about Grover Cleveland, he's the only guy who actually successfully did it in the 19th century. But since then, maybe Teddy Roosevelt was interested in doing it, didn't work. But we just have never seen this happen, just apart from all the legal problems.

So listen to Sarah Isgore, who has become very anti-Trump on this week with George Sevanopoulos, Cut 33. This will have been one of the largest strategic errors I've ever seen a prosecutor make to include defendants she didn't need to include, and then because of that, have her case move from state court, far more prosecution-friendly in Georgia than the federal court rules are going to be, different jury pool, no televised, and you're going to have a state prosecutor basically having to try this case under state law, true, but with federal procedural rules that she's not familiar with. And for what she had, again, the strongest case against Donald Trump on the fake electors, she should have brought that alone and instead. You know, but you want a bigger head. Right.

She won the bigger headline. She talked about all those nineteen that they indicted, so what are they going to do? And Mark Meadows already made the move, Byron York, to say move it to a federal court. And experts say, you know, you got a pretty good case because he was chief of staff to a president, and that's what their problem is, advising what he knows about what the president did. I think you'll find the people who are most Strongly against Trump.

As you know, when you're against Trump, you're really against Trump. I think you'll find a lot of them are frustrated. with the sort of sprawling nature of the Georgia indictment. And they look at the Jack Smith, the federal indictment, as its exact opposite. Because Jack Smith could have indicted a bunch of other people and charged the big scheme or something.

But he was focused like a laser beam on getting Trump.

So I I think actually, The more you want a clean indictment of just one person, the more you want to get Trump. And the more you're happy, you'd be fine to overlook some of the smaller players, even some of the larger players in the whole 2020 election thing. But just get Trump, just make sure he can't run again or he can't be elected again.

So I think that's what's behind. Behind some of this criticism of the Georgia thing. Yeah, here's what Brian Kemp, who I guess Trump has backed off a little bit. He has to, cut 29. One thing is certain about these indictments, in my mind, in my opinion.

This trial, despite what dates anybody's asking for or anything else, it is not going to happen. before the election. And the Democrats want us to be focused on things like this, so we're not focused on Joe Biden's record.

So that's interesting. He says there's no way it's going to be tried here.

So which Jack obviously Jack Smith was talking to the prosecutor in Fulton County.

So does he want to go first with the documents? Good luck with that. You have to give that takes a long time to go through that.

Well, if you want to p y again, if you if you talk to the people who want to get Trump, What they would like to see. Is that the they would like to see the first scheduled trial, that is the trial in Manhattan, the local prosecutor there, which is everybody believes is the weakest of the cases. They would like to see that just kind of step aside, just just move aside. You made your point, move aside. They want to see a trial on the Mar-a-Lago documents case because.

It's the cleanest and the simplest. And they believe the the best proof Of Trump committing actual wrongdoing.

So if you want to get Trump, I mean, if that's the idea behind these prosecutions, and we can talk about whether getting somebody should be the idea behind prosecutions, but if you want to get Trump, you want to have that documents trial first. Get him convicted, and then you can call him a convicted felon for the rest of the campaign. If that's who floats your boat, we'll see.

So listen to this: ABC got a hold of the original introduction or chapter in Mark Meadows' book. And it's before Mark Meadows looked at it and said, You better change this. And they review what they're saying is an early draft of Meadows' book that describes Trump talking about the document, allegedly a four-page war plan, from the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Quote: On the couch in front of the President's desk, there's a four-page report typed up by Mark Milley himself. It shows the general's own plan to attack Iran.

When President Trump found this plan in his old files this morning, he pointed out that making this declassified would probably win his case, but those words did not appear in the final version of his book. According to sources, Meadows told investigators he directed the reference to Trump possessing a classified war plan to be taken out of the book because he knew it would be, quote, problematic if Trump had such a document in his possession. What's your thoughts about this leak and the content of the leak?

Well, that does suggest actually that Trump inadvertently kept. The document when he left the presidency, but it also Suggest that after he realized he had it, he still kept it.

So I think that's it is kind of enlightening on the way Trump handled documents. This is the document that Trump was supposedly waving around in front of the writer. who was the the ghostwriter who was writing Mark Meadows's Book and was interviewing Trump for it. But look, on the documents case, It's pretty clear that there were classified documents. and that Trump had them.

And that he had a responsibility to give them back, and that there was a long runaround. When the government, the National Archives, and then the Justice Department tried to get him back. That's just a fact. Right. Uh do you think Mark Meadows is flipped?

I mean, would it would people know where to find him? I haven't heard anyone comment on it. Yeah. There's a lot of speculation about that. I mean, Mark Meadows didn't immediately disappear upon leaving the White House, but now he's pretty much scarce Um So, you know, has he flipped?

I don't know. But the Justice Department, in terms of the Mar-a-Lago case, has it. And I'm sure they always want more, but I don't think it's dependent on Mark Meadows or any single person. Let's talk about the debate that's coming up in Milwaukee. It's going to be the first one.

We're going to see like nine people on the stage. We just see Governor Hutchinson has just qualified. We'll see what's at stake.

Now, Trump says he's not coming, put it on Truth Social.

So let's assume Ron DeSantis is in the middle. What's at stake for the governor as the solid number two, but dropping?

Well, I think a huge amount is at stake because I think he's going to be if Trump is not there. We know that some people, Chris Christie, is going to be there to attack Trump. It doesn't matter whether Trump is physically there or not. That's what he's going to do. But I think the rest of them are not just going to gratuitously attack Trump because they know that a huge number of their Republican supporters Support Trump right now.

They eventually want them to change and vote for Nikki Haley or Tim Scott or whoever. But right now, they support Trump. I don't think they want to just kick him in the teeth.

So I think Ron DeSantis is the big target. For Wednesday's debate, if Trump doesn't show up, it's huge for Ron DeSantis. Because this conventional wisdom has set in that his campaign, he's running a terrible campaign, it's falling. Uh he's maybe just dead in the water. And it is a fact if you look at the Real Clear Politics average polls.

Um he was around DeSantis hit 30%. In January, and now he's around fifteen percent. I mean, his support is half. Of what it was at the beginning of this year.

So I think he needs to show. viewers that he's really good. He's in command of the facts. He has a plan for what to do when he becomes President. And he would be the strongest person to take the office.

I mean, so he really needs to to get voters to figure out what it was they liked about Ron DeSantis in the first place. Right. And I just can't believe the amount of tack ads won against DeSantis to begin with. And then you look at the New York Times story over the weekend. They just ripped him on his Ivy League background.

Really? I read the story, there's nothing to it. And their obsession with going after Governor DeSantis is nuts. And Byron, I think it's a learned moment for the rest of the field. If you think because Trump is Trump, when he goes away, it's going to be more of a semi-level playing field, you have not been paying attention to how Ron DeSantis was attacked outside the Trump campaign.

Just how it's been attacked. That's absolutely correct. I mean, the the idea is first destroy Trump. And then if DeSantis emerges as the successor, destroy DeSantis. But if somebody else emerges as a successor, destroy them too.

So that's pretty clearly the idea among Democrats, of course, and appears to be the idea in some media circles as well. Right. I want you to hear something that DeSantis said and tell me if you think it's problematic because the Trump team jumped all over at Cut Two. You could be the most conservative person since sliced bread unless you're kissing his rear end. They will somehow call you a rhino.

If all we are is listless vessels that's just supposed to follow whatever happens to come down the pike on Truth Social every morning, that's not going to be a durable movement.

So I mean, the whole thing is a little different. He says, I don't think I think that we have a strand in our party that views supporting Trump as whether you're a rhino or not. And then he went into that soundbite. But now they're saying that's his deplorable moment. Did you take it like that?

Well, at first I thought listless vessels is a pretty clunky phrase. The chlorables was was just came off the tongue a lot more easily. It was what can you say? I I think it was actually true what he was saying that about Trump. And so much of what Trump says about a person Depends on what that person has said about Trump.

If Trump feels like he's always been treated nicely by somebody, then he doesn't attack them. And if he feels like he has some grudge against them, then he does attack them. Um and I think that basically DeSantis was saying something. He said it pretty inelegantly, um but he was basically saying that look, you know, Republican voters need to view this situation critically. They need to use their common sense.

and see what is what's the best way to defeat Joe Biden, not to pick a Republican nominee, but to defeat Joe Biden in twenty twenty four. Right. I mean, he went on to say Chip Roy endorsed him and Thomas Massey endorsed him. They're going to be called rhinos. Are they rhinos?

I have everything to call Ron DeSantis. You call him a rhino? I mean, the guy gives six-week abortion ban. You see the way what he's taken on these schools, what he's done with the education and curriculum, what he's done with taking on Disney. These seem like Republican and name-only issues.

I mean, that's what his frustration is. But I guess the perfect candidate doesn't show frustration. Is that it?

Well, I do think we've seen, and this is quite a while now. We've seen a tendency, certainly in Trump world, but also among some Republicans to label someone who criticizes Trump or who just disagrees with some of Trump's policies as a rhino.

So in other words, to be a Republican. You have to support Trump. And you know, we have. party primaries every four years when there's not an incumbent Republican President. They have party primaries and they all argue with each other and they run against each other and they and they criticize each other.

I mean, that's and they're all Republicans.

So I think this idea of equating Criticism of Trump being a rhino. It's obviously very self-serving for Trump, but it's just not true. Right. So, Byron, if I interview and you I might be on Thursday, what do you think you'll be saying would be the headline projection? Do you put your best Gene Dixon Nostradamus hat on?

Ha ha ha ha. Uh I think that I think the headline could be, and it won't be a very sexy headline, muddled picture emerges from first debate. I think a number of the candidates will have a good moment. Vivek Ramaswamy have a good moment. Yeah, he'll have a good moment.

You know, I'm De DeSantis will have one. I think Nikki Haley will have one, Tim Scott. I wouldn't be surprised if everybody has kind of a good moment, and they all claim that they were helped by the debate. Go get him. Byron York is going to be fun.

It's finally upon us. Enough speculation. Byron York, thank you. Thank you, Brian. 1-866-408-7669.

Your first chance to talk this weekend. You did a lot of listening at the barbecue.

Now, vent.

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You know, Biden, right before the 2020 election, he was right side up, which in our polarized politics is quite astonishing. But look, Trump and Rudy Giuliani began this campaign to try to tarnish Biden, to try to turn him into the Clinton name, you know, with the obsession over the Ukraine businesses with Hunter. And it's worked. His numbers now look more like Hillary Clinton's 16. Then Biden 20.

Yeah, but it's because we're finding out what Joe Biden was up to. And we're looking at his policies, and that's significant because Chuck Todd said it on Meet the Press. But we've been saying it all along. And he was not above water. He was never 50%.

He was above what he is right now, which is 39%.

So I asked people to write me, BrianKillme.com, and one of them was Fred. Fred writes, Jack Smith and Democrats are corrupt, hopelessly, irreversibly corrupt, specifically blind and incapable of a second judgment or either ethical contact. Unfortunately, most of our national media will not report that. Peggy Ulissy on WDBO in Orlando. Hey, Peggy.

Hey Brian, how are you? Great, what's on your mind?

Well, listening to Brian York and the way DeSantis, who I'm a fan of, describes him or anybody who doesn't want isn't supporting Donald Trump I voted for him twice, primaries and elections. I am not voting for them this time. And if that's what it takes to be a rhino, then there's a whole lot of rhinos out there. Right. I mean, DeSantis is saying, you know, because he's going against Trump, people call him a rhino.

And the same thing with with the same thing with Uh, the people that support him, they're being called rhinos. But yet there is Chip Roy is as conservative as anybody in the house. Just ask Kevin McCarthy. And it's just a you're if you're just calling Ron DeSantis a rhino because he's not supporting Trump, you're not thinking. He's saying, Don't be an empty vessel.

But the quickly, his quick reaction team on the Trump side jumped all over that. Peggy, thanks for the call. Also, this has been an exciting day for us, especially because KTUSC. In Tucson, Arizona will be now part of the Brian Kilmeicho family. It's Freedom 1400, Conservative Talk for Tucson.

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This hour, we're going to be joined by Eric Erickson. Talk about important. What a summit he had over the weekend. Invited everybody except Donald Trump, and all of them came, all the Republican contenders. He's a great talent.

He's on WSB, and he's going to be joining us live.

So that'll be great.

So let's get to it. And Michael Goodwin's standing by.

So let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. This will have been one of the largest strategic errors I've ever seen a prosecutor make. She had, again, the strongest case against Donald Trump on the fake electors. She should have brought that alone, and instead, you know, she wanted the bigger headline.

She did, and we'll talk about that. Trump on trial. Has Mark medals flipped? Will Georgia trial screw up Jack Smith's prosecution? And will any trial take place before the election?

We'll break it down with the best. Number two. And I believe that one reason that Hunter was CC'd on those emails where Joe Biden was using a fake name is so Hunter could prove to the Ukrainian oligarch: look, help is on the way. Maybe details on the deal that wasn't for Hunter show clearly the whistleblowers stopped Hunter from skating.

Now, new revelations of VP Biden's aliases email. Could they lead to proof positive he set up Hunter's deals and fired prosecutors more to line his pockets than to help our country? Number one. No one in this country even knew who I was six months ago. And so I'm looking forward to introducing myself to the people.

We feel really good going into the debate. I love debates, and I'm looking forward to it. I feel like I've been preparing for this first Republican presidential debate my whole life. Yeah, it's kind of cool. Debate Week is here, and who's in, and who is out, and who chooses to miss.

We set the table. We bring you the latest from the trail. And love them or not, we look at over-the-top tax on Governor Ron DeSantis, the latest hit piece from the New York Times. With me right now is Michael Goodwin, used to work for the New York Times. Michael, welcome back.

Good morning, Brian. Yes, I did my undergraduate work there. A lot of people think it's the zenith of a career. In retrospect, it gave you a perspective, but you're not as proud as you once were. No, look, I think the paper has changed dramatically.

And you know, Brian, I mean, the obvious bias that the Everything is a propaganda now. Everything is about the agenda, the narrative. whether it's race or transgenderism or politics. nothing straight that they just don't know how to play it straight anymore That said, I do think there was a significant report over the weekend, and it was the Times piece. on David Weiss, the U.

S. Attorney in Delaware. The allegations that he was not going to charge Hunter Biden with any crimes. Until the IRS whistleblowers came forward. That is an amazing piece of news.

And I give the Times credit. This is the first real original reporting they have done on the Hunter Biden stuff. And to find something significant like that. And I think this goes to the heart of David Weiss. But it doesn't stop there, Brian, because a very well connected insider told me a couple of weeks ago.

that this case would not have stayed and the decis not all the decisions could be made in Delaware. That the Attorney General or his deputy, Lisa Monaco, had to make at least sign off on the deal that was presented to the court. And this person told me also that the FBI was never shown the plea agreement before it was submitted, which was highly unusual. And that if it had been seen by the FBI, the top of the agency would have protested that the deal was too weak.

Now, I think these are great questions for Colmer and the other Republicans in Congress to ask David Weiss. to ask Merrick Garland. To ask anybody they can bring. But it seems to me that this entirely undercuts. Any faith that David Weiss will be a special counsel in more than name.

He is clearly not to be trusted in this case. He went native. He lives in Delaware. It's not like Yes, and I think that you cannot have this investigation for five years and come up and say, well, we don't find any crimes. That's what he was prepared to do.

No charges. I mean, that is an extraordinary detail that the crimes came up with. How about the fact that David Weiss was not even looking into the foreign investments? And the whole problem was just on whether how to use the word resolved or not or concluded on if there's going to be any further investigation. And Leslie Wolfe is the one who tipped off the Biden family that they were going to be looking in the guest house ahead of time and said, Joe's a no-go.

She was later exposed to be a donor to Obama, pulled at the last minute. The guy they put in, really from Baltimore, knew nothing really about the deal. When the judge looked at it and goes, what is this? Yeah, I've never seen anything quite like it either.

Well, what about it? And next thing you know, it both sides blew it up.

Well, and but David Weiss, we know, signed off on that. Question, did Merrick Garland also sign off? He was kept out of this story, Michael. Isn't that significant? Isn't it?

It certainly is. I mean, it's as though everything happened in Delaware.

Something this big, routine, something this big under any administration would not be left to the local U.S. attorney. It would have to be signed off on almost all political indictments. Are signed off on by the Maine justice headquarters. And the FBI is given a chance to make its case.

So it just doesn't bear any scrutiny whatsoever that David Weiss made this decision alone. And now we know, if the Times is correct, that he switched courses after the IRS whistleblowers came forward.

So that validates the IRS whistleblowers and everything they said. Yeah, everything. And everything they said is right.

So now, by the way, they were sniping at each other, the defense, the defense, and David Weiss over the weekend. They said, you know, it was David Weiss who walked away from the deal. Weiss says you're to blame for the deal. And now he has a special prosecutor status. He did get it to Los Angeles, who rejected looking into it, which is where he lives now and D.C.

rejected looking into it.

So by the time this happens, everything goes quiet.

Now, maybe you can educate me in this, Michael. The fact that they didn't indict. Uh didn't freeze. The statute of limitations on anything.

So, by delaying four or five years, some of these tax reforms are some of these tax breaches. are out of reach. Is that correct? Oh, yes. I mean, already, according to the whistleblowers, that they let the tax tax potential tax charges, tax fraud charges from twenty thirteen and twenty fourteen.

This is the time where Hunter Biden Took some $400,000 from Burisma and classified it as a loan when, in fact, of course, it was payment for being on the board. And there are documents on the laptop, which the IRS whistleblowers, I guess, have seen other documents because they didn't see the laptop, where Eric Schwerwin, Hunter Biden's partner and sort of what seems to be his tax account, says to him, This is not a loan, you have to, it's income and you have to pay taxes on it.

Well, he never did. He never did. And so, but with the statue of limitations expiring, that means those $400,000 were untaxed. And there's no penalty. That's what they did by letting the statute of limitations expire on those cases.

And you're right, Brian, that that the clock is ticking on other years. I mean, that other years could fall into the same thing. And the whistleblowers pointed out there was no excuse for this, that the defense had twice extended the statute of limitations, giving them an exemption on the timeline, and yet they still let it expire and brought no charges. That's the kind of thing that drove the whistleblowers to come forward. And yet, It could happen again.

That's why I think the Republicans in Congress really need to sort of go into emergency mode now. David Weiss cannot be trusted to have this case. And I'm not sure how they get him out of it, but The idea that he is now going to be a serious special counsel, it's a joke, and it's playing out before our eyes. And I think it speaks to the fact that Merrick Garland is somewhat cornered here now. This has been exposed, and so he turns to Weiss again and says, We're going to throw another bone.

We're going to go to the next one. No one would you know know in reading what you read over the weekend. Do you believe that this resonates? This is a paper that he reads. He sees how this, but you put two and two together.

He sees how bad Weiss looks now and how bad his move, instead of looking gutsy and courageous and impartial in some circles, now it looks ridiculous in all circles.

So, do you think that this might actually hit home? Look, I think it's very significant, Brian, that the Times did this. Because, as I say, this is their first real original reporting where they've come up with something important. And they have extensive sources within the FBI. And I mean, the whole Russia, Russia, Russia stuff came out of the FBI, and that's what they won their Pulitzer for.

So, one of their reporters, Michael Schmidt, who was on those Pulitzer teams with the FBI, he's one of the bylines on this story.

So, they clearly are getting a lot of information from the FBI, which, as I mentioned, I'm told that the FBI is not happy with the way this case was handled. They don't believe that this was a good arrangement, that this plea deal was any good.

Well, Michael, I know what you're saying, but there's the same FBI that just threatened the computer repair guy, made him feel as though he made it up, and they also the same FBI that has no interest in following up with Tony Bobolinski.

So, they could have really made progress. Progress on the foreign business deal.

So I don't know what element of the FBI is actually upset.

Well I would I would hazard to guess, Brian, it's the people who were involved in the case, or at least some of them, that they know that there was more meat there than David Weiss was willing to see at the end. That's my guess. I could be wrong, but I think the one thing I'm very confident of is that the leadership in the FBI never saw the plea agreement before it was submitted.

Now, if you'll recall, Christopher Wray testified since then, or around then, and was asked about it, and he danced around the question.

So I think there's a lot that the Republicans can get. Out of the FBI, putting people under oath. Look, again, when the New York Times does this, Instead of just saying, oh, this is a political liability. If you go back months, they were ignoring this or poo-pooing it. Then they moved, and so did the Washington Post, to this posture that this is a continuing liability for Joe Biden's reelection.

Now they're actually doing real reporting, at least in this case, about what's really going on. And if the White House begins to sense. that we've lost the times the times is no longer part of the praetorian guard protecting us Then they're going to have to start to scramble.

So I think this moment is potentially pivotal in the whole investigation and in Joe Biden's role in it. I'll mark the spot, but I also want to mark your column real quick on Ron DeSantis. Quote: If there ever was a candidate in desperate need of a miracle comeback, he's the one. The man that I and many others viewed as the future of the Republican Party approaches the first presidential primary debate Wednesday as a wounded disappointment. The polls say he's second place behind Trump, but the Florida governor is closer to being toast than he is being the frontrunner.

Why do you say that? Look, obviously, the polls are the primary thing. But Brian, you look at what's happening with the other candidates in New Hampshire and Iowa, where they're beginning to gain on him. I mean, he's losing steam everywhere, nationally as well as in the first two states. And if he doesn't win one or even two of the first three states, I don't see how he comes out of this.

That whole line that how many tickets are there out of Iowa? How many tickets are there? In other words, how many candidates can really emerge? To be true candidates, true challengers, because the money drives up. And if you don't do well in those early states, and the pictures of DeSantis is the crowds are small.

The poll numbers show that Tim Scott is getting close to him in both states. And Christie is getting close to him and actually passed him in one poll last week in New Hampshire. Christie has banked everything on New Hampshire. That's his way out. If I can win New Hampshire, I'm alive.

I'll get money and I'll be strong. And it'll scramble the race, and people will give me a second look. DeSantis had his view, along with most candidates, that Trump's support, that about 25% of the Republican Party is solid for Donald Trump, but that the rest of it was soft. When Trump was at 35, 38% in the polls early this year, the support is soft once you get above 25%. That was a theory of the case I think that most campaigns had.

But now here we are, well into the year, first debate coming up, and Trump's support continues to grow.

So it's no longer 38%. It's now 55. One poll had him at 61, I believe.

So these numbers are growing. Of course, the indictments are a big part of it, but the whole theory that the challengers had about being able to peel away soft Trump supporters has been proven wrong so far. Yeah, I guess we'll see. I think you're right about the polls. I also have never seen a second-place candidates attack like this.

And I wonder how much that weighs on him. You know, from the New York Times' ridiculous piece on Sunday to Donald Trump's $20 million in ads. Michael, great column. Love your insight too on the New York Times. Thanks so much.

Always great. We come back your turn. Then Eric Erickson, the bottom of the hour. It's debate week. So glad you're here.

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Hey, welcome back, everyone. 1-866-408-7669. Chance to squeeze in a couple of calls. Matt, listen, WTKF. Hey, Matt, over in North Carolina.

Hello, Brian. How are you? Good, what's in your mind? I was telling Pete at the beginning of the show, I went out and posted my big, beautiful Trump flag because I don't care about mean tweets or personality or anything else. If someone cared about personality, I would be fired with my job as vice president of a company.

I want to know how the country is run. We know that Trump did good things for this company, and that's my take on it.

Well, weren't you happy with Trump? What area would you want him to be different the second time if there is a second time? like not making some people mad about his personality, maybe soften it up a little bit. But what we know he did good for the company, by country, I mean. Yeah, I mean, if I've always said this, Matt, you've probably heard me say it before.

If he just said, I'm really upset by the way some of this thing went down, some of these pandemic vote gettings, and I'm upset. I want to recount. I'm going to put my lawyers on it. But I accept the result and I'm going to be back. He would probably not have any opponents.

I don't think anybody would have jumped in against it. Maybe some anti-Trumpers like Governor Hogan. That's it. But some things he did made it harder. Taking those documents, no way should he be indicted for it.

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One thing is certain about these indictments, in my mind and my opinion. This trial, despite what dates anybody's asking for or anything else, it is not going to happen. before the election. And the Democrats want us to be focused on things like this.

So we're not focused on. Joe Biden's record. That is Brian Kemp with Eric Erickson's big meeting over the weekend, big forum where I found out, Eric, that you did not even invite Donald Trump. I'm not sure he would have come or not. The Eric Erickson Show is on WSP 95.5 FM at 7.50 a.m.

in Atlanta. And, Eric, congratulations, pulling off a great event by all accounts. Thank you very much. And yeah, you know, we didn't. His team had made it clear they didn't want to share the stage with any of the other candidates.

So we figured there's no point in going through a multi-month rigor marole where we knew they'd ultimately say no. We just went straight to the other candidates. And what did you find? Number one, Kemp is probably one of the most popular, respected Republicans in the country, certainly most successful. He gave you a couple of answers.

Number one, he did not. Him and Trump have been feuding, but it's really a one-way feud. But he did. That surprised me, his answer. This is.

This is not, there's no trial that's going to take place before election day. Yeah, you know, people outside of Georgia don't realize this. There's a RICO case going on right now, a criminal RICO case in Fulton County, led by the same DA. They've been picking the jury since January, and it has fewer defendants than the Trump indictment. And they still haven't finalized a jury to even begin what's going to be a six-month trial.

There's literally no physical way for a Trump trial to happen before the election, given how long it's going to take just to pick a jury in the case, let alone all the procedural stuff and the court's backlog with other RICO cases.

So he's right about that. And his focus, he actually came back on Saturday and sat on stage with Glenn Young to try to encourage people to do early voting and absentee voting and win. And a lot of people saw him as presidential candidates. They were very insistent it's not going to happen. I kind of believe them, but both of them.

And they're both really trying to focus on we've got to win in 24 and we probably need to go in a different direction. direction than it looks like we're headed. Which uh they don't believe Trump can win is what you're saying. Yeah, they don't. Look, Georgia is problematic.

He lost once. Suburban voters have rejected every one of his candidates that he's endorsed since then. In 2022, every Republican won except the ones that Trump endorsed, which was kind of a big red flag that there's a problem.

Now, my argument is the economy might be getting so bad that he's got an opening against Joe Biden, but you would spend more money on him in Georgia than the other candidates would have to spend, which could cost you the Senate.

So, what was this prosecutor thinking? I mean, to do this, so you know her. Is this the only crime that's ever potentially taken place in Fulton County? Should she have other focus? Oh, she absolutely should.

Listen, regardless of what the campaign did or didn't do, and I'm in the camp that doesn't actually think it was stolen in Georgia, having been an election lawyer, it was a dumb case for her to bring. It's going to overwhelm her office and potentially bankrupt the county. There's no way the state of Georgia gives us supplemental money to Fulton County. They're going to have to raise taxes on people. And don't forget, by the way, Fulton County, the northern end, is highly Republican.

You get just one of those people on the jury, they could blow up her entire prosecution.

So listen with Sarah Isker. She used to be the DOJ spokesperson for Trump during the Trump years, but turned very anti-Trump. Tell me if this is basically what you agree to, Cut 33. This will have been one of the largest strategic errors I've ever seen a prosecutor make to include defendants she didn't need to include, and then because of that, have her case move from state court, far more prosecution-friendly in Georgia than the federal court rules are going to be, different jury pool, no televised, and you're going to have a state prosecutor basically having to try this case under state law, true, but with federal procedural rules that she's not familiar with. And for what she had, again, the strongest case against Donald Trump on the fake electors, she should have brought that alone and instead.

You know, but you wanted the bigger head. And they're talking about Mark Meadows has a legitimate uh case when he said I was the chief of staff of the President on January sixth. That's the problem you have with me about what happened after. This should be a Federal case, not a Georgia case. Faddles and Presents here is right on that.

There is a clear federal statute that anything under the color of office could drive that in court. Same with Jeff Clark, by the way, who is a U.S. acting attorney general or deputy attorney general, and Donald Trump, who is president of the United States. They can get this moved to federal court, which expands the jury pool to a massive number of pro-Trump counties in Georgia. They use federal criminal rules of procedure, which Connie Willis isn't.

an expert in, and it becomes a much more difficult case For the state prosecutor to prosecute, it also becomes a much more expensive case that Fulton County has to pay for.

So tell me about what you discovered when you had a chance to talk to these candidates from Nikki Haley to Tim Scott. You mentioned Yunkin, not a candidate, but he didn't rule it out up until maybe you feel as though he has now. But go ahead. Yunkin was hesitant to even come because he didn't want to be seen as a candidate. They wanted to be on stage with Brian Kemp to make it less plausible.

We told him it was a bad idea. And of course, having Yunkin and Kemp on stage, the media was like, oh, there's your 2024 ticket. He really is gun-shy about the idea of running. But Tim Scott, Nikki Haley, Mike Pence, Vivek Ramashwami, Chris Christie, Ron DeSantis. I was stunned by the number of people who didn't realize DeSantis' military background, which tells me he's done a good job highlighting his record in Florida, but hasn't told the story of who he is.

Tim Scott had a just commanding performance, but still there were a lot of doubts in the room. He had kind of the fire in the belly for a nasty campaign. Mike Pence was great, but a little subdued. Nikki Haley resonated with the audience talking about her husband as a soldier transitioning back into the nation as a civilian and the struggles with our soldiers and the failure of the government and the VA to deal with them. It was kind of a very poignant moment.

And then, of course, Chris Christie makes a lot of sense and sounds great on the stage. But conservatives just don't trust that he's one of them, which is a problem. And and Vivek Ramaswamy sounded fantastic on stage, had a huge fan club there, but I still come away with he's thirty eight years old. Is this like the Pete Budigitch phenomenon, but on our side? Pete Butterjudge, of course, was mayor, a mediocre mayor, where this guy was legitimately a great business person.

So like Pete Pete Butterjudge, spectacular failure after failure. I mean, I cannot believe that we all know the Transportation Secretary now by name because of how inept he is. Yes. But it's just, you know, the phenomenon of young guys, stir up the pot, bring young voters in. We'll see if he can build on that.

He made a persuasive case that we've got to bring young voters to our side, and his message certainly resonated with people. What I did find the most notable thing, Brian, and we can all laugh at this, is I was very explicit. I wanted to hear from these candidates. Why you, not the other guys? What's your big policy vision?

What do you understand that you don't know about the job? And how are you going to find out what you need to know? And when they would get off stage, all the media want to do is, what do you think of the Trump indictments? What do you think about President Trump not coming to the debate? And the crowd loved that they got 45 minutes with these candidates where they actually got to learn about them and their vision, not what they think about Donald Trump, which we all know.

And then the media just was super frustrated. We had some reporters say they didn't even want to cover it unless I was going to ask the candidates on stage about Trump. And I just thought, we don't know anything about these candidates. Let's hear from them about their vision. For the future, I hope it resonated.

I hope so. And here's the thing: when asked by a CBS poll, what should the debate opponent do with the debate? 91% said make a case for yourself. 9% say make a case against Donald Trump. What do GOP voters, St.

Paul, want to hear about? 86% the economy, 83% crime, 81% illegal immigration. By standing strong, you're actually helping voters. Yes, yeah, I mean, listen, we learned so much from these candidates. We learned about Vivek and his views on Taiwan.

I allowed him to clarify those. They didn't quite resonate with the crowd, but he was able to make his case. Ron DeSantis had 10 minutes on how he would actually clean up the border and how he sees the military action on the border. Mike Pence got to talk about dealing with the bureaucracy and the fights and how you can clean it up. They all got moments to shine.

All of them held themselves very well. I'm more interested now in the Fox debate on Wednesday because I see these guys actually do have unique, distinct ideas that separate them from each other that we hadn't learned so far.

So I want you to hear: Vivek is ridiculous and win the Ukraine war. And this was what he said to you, Cut 14. First thing I would do is end the Ukraine war. I will end the Ukraine war. On terms that advance American interests, specifically.

Freeze the current lines of control like a Korean War armistice agreement. Make a hard commitment that NATO will not admit Ukraine to NATO. And I know not everyone in this audience will agree with me on that, and that's okay. But I want to be clear about why. This will require, as a condition for that deal, Vladimir Putin to exit his military alliance with China.

And the Russia-China military alliance is the top threat that we face today: hypersonic missile capabilities, nuclear capabilities in Russia's hands ahead of the U.S., combined with China's naval capacity ahead of the U.S., and an economy that we depend on for our modern way of life. That alliance is a problem. Is that the dumbest thing you've ever heard? We're going to have Vladimir Putin's word he's not going to have an alliance with China, which he'd never agreed to begin with. That i i it strikes me as wilfully naive.

Essentially, you're allowing the Russians to engage in a massive land grab and then say, okay, we promise wing, wing, na, na, we're not going to work with China with whom we share a border that it's hard for you to monitor. That one was a good and then it's the same with Taiwan, that once we get our superconductor capabilities and semiconductor capabilities out of Taiwan, we'll allow China to invade them. That's going to completely disrupt the Western alliance if we were to do that. And some people may think that's fine, but we're essentially negotiating a surrender with China. Yeah, let's hear that.

Cut twelve. The most important foreign policy objective for the next U. S. President. to declare economic independence from China.

to deter China from going after Taiwan. For so long as we rely on Taiwan for our semiconductors while avoiding war in the process. That'll be a major accomplishment of the next U.S. President, and it will not be simple. Right.

And then let them take Taiwan. And who cares? Yeah, it's just keep them from invading Taiwan until we get our semiconductor technology out of there. That's just That's really bad in a lot of profound ways because it does signal that we don't keep our word. And what do we do with South Korea, Japan, and even Australia that are and the Philippines now, and even Vietnam that really are looking for us to try to deter China?

This isn't deterrence. It's kind of capitulation. Here's Chris Christie on crime. Cut eight. It's unacceptable and it's unacceptable morally to me.

That people are afraid to walk the streets, to go to the supermarket, to go and pick up their dry cleaning. Because they're scared. And so, if these liberal prosecutors in these cities are unwilling to prosecute this crime, which they are. I will appoint an attorney general. And my first instruction to him or her will be The federal government will prosecute those violent crimes in those cities until the cities wake up and do it themselves.

So, I mean, absolutely something people care about, right? That went over well, and he's got credibility as a former prosecutor. He does. He actually started with education and made a persuasive case on how you, as president, even though it's a state-level issue, can fundamentally disrupt teachers' unions, which resonated strongly with Crowd. And then this, it sounded honestly to me like he was running for attorney general.

He, even the RICO case in Georgia, and we've got a situation with Antifa rioters in Atlanta using RICO against them. He makes a profoundly strong case for a strong attorney general cracking down on crimes where liberal prosecutors will not. People want to talk about Mike Penn separating for the president on January 6th. He's like, it's not just there. Cut five.

President Biden's policy on reforming entitlements in this country is insolvency. And the former president's position is identical to Joe Biden's position. They won't even talk about common sense reforms of Social Security and Medicare for younger Americans. And as you know, I'm pro-life. I don't apologize for it.

And I see not only the former president but others on the stage trying to relegate the question of abortion to a state's only issue. And I want people to know my long record being a champion for the right to life.

So, I mean, he separates three different areas where he wants to see Trump on stage. How is that received? It was actually received to a degree very well. I mean, the crowd, almost everyone in the crowd had been two-time Donald Trump supporters, and they're just kind of exhausted, even though they still like him. They appreciated Pence's convictions on those issues.

I mean, he the one thing I was surprised though, Brian, is I asked him pretty point blank. You keep talking about the accomplishments of the Trump administration, which, Mr. Vice President, raises the question: why should people pick you instead of the President of that administration? He kind of whiffed the answer, which I was surprised he didn't have a strong answer on it. Interesting.

So Eric, your big takeaway was, do you think these are a talented group? Yeah, we have an extremely impressive group of people who shouldn't have to live in Donald Trump's shadow, and they won't have to on the debate stage for Fox. If I was to ask Eric Erickson on Monday what's going to be the number one candidate we'll be talking about, who did best after Wednesday night on Thursday, what would you tell me? I would say if it's not DeSantis, his campaign has real problems.

So the pressure on DeSantis to kill it as he has center squared. He's got to. I mean, he's the only one in double digits other than Trump, but he's starting to hit a fundraising plateau. He needs to revitalize his campaign, and he's got a great opportunity with Fox on Wednesday. Eric, your reputation showed itself this weekend as everybody showed up.

Congratulations, and thanks so much for sharing the aftermath report. Thank you so much. All right, Eric Erickson over in Atlanta. You listen to the Brian Kilmead Show. Don't move.

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It's Brian Kilmeade. The Democratic Party, like Tim Wallace, they're rallying around Joe Biden in part because they believe that that's the safe play. That's three yards and a cloud of dust, to use a seasonal metaphor. But what if that actually is the riskier option? You showed those numbers right there.

The Democratic Party thinks that Biden is the safe play. Just hope for the best. We'll get through the next 14 months. I'm not so sure that that's it.

So, Jonathan Martin, there, I think, from the Washington Post, he's not there as the right-wing voice on Meet the Press, and he's seeing problems. Same way the New York Times sees problems. We've been seeing problems, my goodness. The president slurred his way through a summit, which is significant.

South Korea and Japan have been bitter rivals, even though they're both democracies, but their common enemy, China, has brought them together. And to Biden's credit or his staff's credit, they throw an opportunity to go do it. They barely even publicize it, didn't educate anybody on the significance of it. And that goes by. He doesn't really seem tuned.

People like Jonathan Martin, clearly anti-Trump guys and not righty, brought up those things about Joe Biden. Is he really the safe play? He went on to say this: Cut 18. He's actually from Politico. Biden's staff can't even get to the president about the issue because they don't want to address a sensitive topic with the president.

They've got a challenge. I think Biden has basically got three issues where he's not figured out what to say. One is obviously the questions about Hunter Biden, his son. The other is what to say about the investigations into Donald Trump. And the third is about his age.

Those are three massive issues that are sort of closed. clouding his reelection campaign and he's not figured out what to say about it. And the thing is, I think he knows what to say. about his age and it's not good. He wants to say I have a lot of experience.

Well, I mean You don't look sharp. And you look older than your age in your eighty. Number two, about Hunter Biden. What can you say? It leads to him.

Jonathan Martin doesn't understand. It leads to him. In some way, shape or form, he was hands on on those deals. I mean, the meetings in the restaurants have been confirmed, the calling in to the same meetings in in Doha. That's what he can't say.

And about Donald Trump, his hands are all over it. But if he starts talking about it, it'll look like Joe Biden's Department of Justice is going after his chief opponent.

So he knows the answers. That's the problem. He does not want to be forced to give those answers. That's what I think the issue is. Brian, kill me, Chill.

Keep it here. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kelmead. Hi everybody, welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Killmee Show.

So glad you're here. Hope you had a fantastic weekend. I know challenging with weather conditions over in California, challenging weather conditions over in Hawaii as they try to regroup after that devastating fire off the hurricane. And the president of the United States twice said no comment. Today he'll be in Hawaii.

You know, realize we do have 50 states. We'll talk about that.

Meanwhile, there's a lot to discuss. This is debate week. Four indictments for Trump, and he will not come. The first debate, officially, in many people's view, including mine, really kicks off the debates the political season with Iowa five months away.

So let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. This will have been one of the largest strategic errors I've ever seen a prosecutor make. She had, again, the strongest case against Donald Trump on the fake electors. She should have brought that alone and instead, you know, one of the bigger heads.

Yeah. Sarah Isgore cannot believe what the Georgia prosecutor did. Trump on trial. Has Mark Medals flipped? Will Georgia State trial screw up Jack Smith's prosecutions?

I should say persecutions. Will any trial take place before the election? Number two. And I believe that one reason that Hunter was CC'd on those emails where Joe Biden was using a fake name is so Hunter could prove to the Ukrainian oligarch: look, help is on the way. Details on the deal that wasn't for Hunter shows clearly the whistleblowers stopped Hunter from skating.

Now, new revelations about VP Biden's alias email. Could they lead to proof positive he set up a lot of Hunter's deals, was in the middle of all of it, including firing prosecutors and maybe selling out the country? Number one. No one in this country even knew who I was six months ago. And so I'm looking forward to introducing myself to the people.

We feel really good going into the debate. I love debates, and I'm looking forward to it. I feel like I've been preparing for this first Republican presidential debate my whole life. Wow, debate week is here. And who is in, who is out, and who chooses to miss?

We set the table, bring you the latest from the trail. And love them or not, look at the over-the-top tax on Governor Ron DeSantis, the latest hit piece in the New York Times. With me right now is Andy McCarthy, Fox News contributor, best-selling author, former U.S. attorney for Southern District of New York. Andy, welcome back.

Brian, great to be with you. Happy Monday. Same to you.

So far, no indictments. People are saying there might be something in Arizona. The governor denies it. But it looks like we're for and done right now. And this is going to have the dramatic scene of the President of the United States surrendering before Friday.

If you were him, Uh how would you do it?

Well, it's a lot of it's out of his control. because of the security considerations, it's got to be coordinated between the Secret Service. And I would Brian, I would prioritize safety always because I just I've been through too much where things go wrong.

Okay. I would try to do it in a way that was as safe as possible for him and for the. Security detail. I if I were he, I would probably Um Do it. Maybe Wednesday.

You know, if he has the choice of doing it, try to trump the debate? Yeah, because I think that Both Trump and the Biden administration For different reasons. Um have have kind of the same Strategy here, which is that These polit these criminal proceedings freeze the other candidates. I mean, basically, they can't get traction. They have to talk about Trump all the time.

And even, you know, with all the work that I'm sure Brett and Martha have done to, you know, come up with questions that press these candidates on what their positions are and what their vision for the country is, which is the important thing. If Trump were to surrender on Wednesday, it'd be hard to, it would be like a Titanic event that would be very hard to. Ignore And once again, he takes all the oxygen out of the room.

So I imagine if I. Could orchestrate it as he could, or as he may be able to, that's what I would do. But I would always prioritize safety because these things can, you know. Things could go badly wrong. L let's hope he doesn't do that.

The bitterness he would create, I think, would be a lot, but he's used to that. Chuck Rosenberg is a former senior FBI official on Meet the Press. He said this about the prosecutor's case in Georgia, Cut Thirty One. On one hand, um I've read If it gets to trial, it's almost an easier guilty verdict than what Jack Smith's trying to do. But is it harder to get this case to trial?

If it remains at 19 codefendants, sure, that's cumbersome, but. We all know as prosecutors that that number often narrows. Many people who are indicted are better off. If they plead guilty and cooperate, because there are incentives built into all of our systems to do that.

So, A, if they go to trial with 19, that's a big Complex, cumbersome case. But B, I don't expect that will happen. I expect it to narrow. What do you expect, Andy?

Well, I think the RICO case is ridiculous, you know, the RICO camp. She tried to, you know, she's got a bunch of disparate. Schemes, Brian. And what you tried to do was write an indictment that was the January 6th committees, the House committees. version of events.

which is this claim that really is not factually supported, that there was one big multifaceted scheme here that Trump was in a mastermind kind of fashion weaving in the background with all these different Layers to it, and it had our democracy hanging by a thread. And none of that was true. What you have here are a bunch of half-baked. schemes by people who probably didn't know each other existed or what each other was doing in a lot of these instances.

So I think the RICO is going to fall by the wayside. I do think it's likely the case is going to get removed to federal court. Wow. And some smart judge. I think.

Will basically tell her to cut it into smaller pieces, and he'll be and he or she, the judge, will be doing her a favor. uh if that happens because He should have been, if he was going to be charged, it should have been like on the fake elector scheme. And there's one count that alleges that. He and John Eastman filed a false pleading in federal court. And they have some email showing that th they must have been aware that some of the things they were saying to, you know, in the way of uh the number of irregular votes.

Were very dodgy.

So, you know, there's a couple of things in there that he's got to really be concerned about, but it should have been a much smaller case. And if she actually wanted to get to trial quickly, she should have brought it that way, and she could be on trial early next year if she had done it that way. Right. I mean, like Dan Abrams said last week on ABC, he's like, you know what? I don't even think they need to bring that case.

They already have a lot of these charges. In Jack Smith's case, you should say, get out of the way. She would not hear of it, did her photo shoot and had her big press conference, which mysteriously she rushed on Monday, a week ago, yesterday, a week ago today. But, Andy, in the other thing, if it goes to a federal court, the judge, the president theoretically, would have a better shot because Georgia is more red when you get outside Fulton County, right? Yes, that's right.

The other thing though, Brian, is The reason I think I disagree with the people who say, Chris Christie said this as well, that she shouldn't have. Charged because Jack Smith did it. Smith is going to have trouble with his charges because he has stretched some federal statutes to try to cover election behavior, which weren't designed to deal with elections. Whereas I agree with all the people who say that Fannie Willis has partisan motives here, but at the same time, it's the states that conduct elections.

So she has an array of election law statutes to rely on that Smith doesn't.

So I don't blame her for bringing the case. I blame her for the way she brought the case, which I think is incompetent. But I I could it's it's you can't say that she didn't have a law enforcement purpose to do this.

Okay. I mean, she could do it, but if it but if you're already she had to does she include in her case what have happened in other states? She does because you're allowed to prove the background of the I mean, look, she does it because she's doing this big, ridiculous Rico. But even if she had pled the case properly, you would be able to get some evidence in that Trump had an overarching scheme to not only cancel out Georgia, but a bunch of other states. She'd get to prove that in the trial because I think Georgia was not the only um slate of electors.

They were you know, they were trying to stand up slates of electors and indifferent contested Thanks.

So you'd be able to get that in in a normal trial as kind of background to the scheme. But she should have just charged that scheme, not Arico. I mean, Trump is not Don Corleone. You know, this is like.

Well, I thought much more. Yeah. It's a much more modest case than she charged.

So, I mean, what about the timing? I mean, do you believe Brian Kemp went on to say, and I'm not going to play it now, but he just said that I don't think any of these cases are going to take place before election day. Do you believe that?

Well, her case can't take place before Election Day if she tries to make it a nineteen defendant case. I mean, that's ridiculous. What about the others?

So I think the best chance of getting to trial Is probably the Jack Smith DC case. I don't think Alvin Bragg wants to take that piece of dog breakfast to trial. Um And I think so the best chance of getting to trial are Smith's two cases. I think the classified documents case, in my experience, those are very hard cases to get to trial because there's a lot of pretrial litigation, including potential pretrial appeals, about what. Evidence has to be declassified.

And doesn't everyone need this high classification in order to look at the material that Jack Smith has? That's a great point because now he's added one defendant and three counts, right? Every time he adds a new defendant, you got to get a new lawyer who does get a security clearance.

So that's going to slow up the works. I think Smith got a very good draw from the District of Columbia court. In Judge Chutkin. She's going to be a very sympathetic judge. And I think for that reason, if he's in a hurry to get to trial.

She seems to be like, in addition to predisposed, one way, she also seems like a no-nonsense. Person in court. If she wants to get to trial in the, you know, in the spring, she could probably get to trial in the spring. She won't like it. And I wouldn't do it.

I think, you know, it's not fair to let Smith has 31 months to put a case together, or the Justice Department to have 31 months, and then Trump gets comparatively five minutes to get ready for trial. But, you know, he's in front of a friendly judge. He may help.

So ABC News got this leak. Evidently, ABC News has reviewed a draft of Mark Meadows' book that describes Trump talking about the document, allegedly in a four-page war plan prepared by Mark Milley. They went on to say in the book that Simpen modified. On the couch in front of the President's desk, there's a four-page typed up Mark Milley by Mark Milley himself. It shows the general's own war plan to attack a war plan to attack Iran.

When President Trump found this plan in his old files in the morning, he pointed out that making these classified would probably win his case. But these words do not appear in the final version of the book. According to sources, Meadows told investigators he directed that reference to Trump possessing a classified war plan to be taken out because it could be problematic.

So, again, more about Mark Meadows' book, not even the version that we saw. They went into the Twitter drafts and they go into Mark Meadows, I guess. Um uncorrected proof. to find something on Trump. Your thoughts about the amount of damage and the leak that once again gets out.

Well Yeah, the the leak that gets out is bad. No matter what. Um I found when I was doing high profile cases, Brian, that that was like it's impossible to control. There's too many people who Well, you know, you can control it with the Biden. We don't get many leaks out of the Biden investigation.

They're very good about that.

Well, except we got look what we got over the weekend. I mean, we got all their email and everything else, right?

So, no, I'm talking about these classified documents. Oh, no, no, no. I get what you're saying. But what I would say is that this is what prosecutors do. And what would be important is what would Meadows say under oath?

I mean, that's the thing that ends up mattering, regardless of what is in the draft of his book, in the published version of his book. The only thing that's of importance is what would he say under oath? you know, what was what what what actually factually happened. You know, I don't think anybody's very interested in how his book came to be his book. But the issue is what what would his testimony be?

Did that document exist? Did Trump have the document? That's and you want to know what he'd say under oath. Right, you could always say, well, this is what the book says. Go, yeah, that's why I fixed it.

Uh well, that's what it says. I don't even know where that came from. Oh, yeah, but you know, you get you get it y i you invite a lot of trouble when you start, like, telling a dodgy story in connection with something where other people know what actually happened. I mean, and he's got by the way, Mark Meadows has George Tewilliger, who is an excellent lawyer, used to be a Justice Department official on Debar in the Bush 41 administration. He's not going to let them.

Why?

So he's going to be well represented and You know, I don't I I just think He would not go in there and tell a story that would blow up on him. I think under oath, he'd have to say what happened. Gotcha. All right, Andy McCarthy, don't join the Trump legal team. I need you here, all right?

You got it. You'll pay, right? I wish I could. I can't answer you right now. I got to go to break.

I wish I had time. You're not about the money, you're about experience. Oh, right, right. I knew I wasn't about the money. I got to pull out it.

Andy McCarthy, thank you. At the bottom of the air, we talk about all these climate challenges and the weather challenges with Joe Bestorti, co-chief meteorologist at Weatherbell. He's also a legend. Also, special thanks to KTUC in Tucson, Arizona. You're now part of the Brian Kilmead Show family.

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If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. First of all, he's been one of the most highly effective presidents we've ever seen. I said in Congress for 12 years waiting for Infrastructure Week. He actually delivered on this.

And look, Dean is a friend of mine. I love him. But I spent last weekend on Mackinac Island with Tony Evers and Gretzen Whitmer talking about how we're going to make sure that we win this for Joe Biden. Because this is not a debate about Joe Biden's age or experience. It's about a debate about protecting the democracy.

You just heard probably the most reasonable of the Republican candidates not give you a single answer on things. It's about recruiting jobs back into Minnesota. It's about being able to feed our children.

So, yes, I do believe the president is the best one. I believe he has delivered and his record shows that. And anything other than that is simply distraction.

Okay, so that is Tim Waltz. He's going to be one of the big surrogates for President Biden because President Biden can't really campaign.

So he was strong, but he was also way inaccurate. Governor Bergham got on the air and was asked six, seven questions from Chuck Todd all about Trump and all his different indictments. And what he did is accept it and then would try to talk about issues. And they get ripped by Chuck Todd for not answering about Trump. And then this guy comes on and says, Doug Bergham, he's a friend, he's a reasonable guy, and he won't answer any of your questions.

And where it's all about the economy. If the guy would just ask a question about the economy, about immigration, about world affairs, the Ukraine war, that's all these men and women want to do. They don't want to talk about Trump. You come on and talk about Trump the whole time. Chuck Todd even followed up and said, in fairness, I only asked him about Trump.

I didn't ask about those other things. And you're ridiculing him for parroting, parrying, P-A-R-R-Y-I-N-G, parrying to a different topic. And I'm going to play that when I get back, too. before I let you go, because I'm going to talk about this so everything's climate change when it comes to a tropical storm in California, a hot summer, what happened the fires in Hawaii, Joe Pistardi's next. But I found it just astounding.

Number one, That nobody asked and said how bad it looked or condemned Joe Biden for taking the easiest questions ever: any message for the people of Hawaii and Maui, Maui, Hawaii. He had no comment. Twice he said it. No public comments for 72 hours. And then they say that he's been in constant contact with people behind the scenes, FEMA, and everything.

Does anyone buy that? We watched him shirtless on the beach again, take it a long weekend again, and refuse to take questions from the bike when he rides by. How insulting, by the way. And then when he got into his SUV. Listen to the Brian Kill Me Chill.

Man, we have a lot to talk about. I got more sound bites to play, too. Don't move. Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show.

If we don't keep the temperature from going above 1.5 degrees Celsius raised, then we're in real trouble. That's what's boiling the oceans, creating these atmospheric rivers and the rain bombs and sucking the moisture out of the land and creating the droughts and melting the ice and raising the sea level. Climate change is the crisis of our lifetime. We have an obligation. to future generations to make sure that we have a planet for them to live on.

Hey, welcome back. I'm sure you've seen the fires in Hawaii and are horrified by it and can't believe a tropical storm hit California, but also they also had a very wet winter. Which you'd think they would be celebrating. Nobody celebrates a storm, but the winter was fine, but that's climate change. Everything's really cold, everything's really hot, it rains a lot, everything's climate change.

But what's the reality? Joe Bistardi, co-chief meteorologist at Weatherbell, joins us now. He's been doing this for his life. In fact, his whole family's been doing this. His dad was doing this before him.

So, Joe, how do you make sense of some of the things that are happening right now? Do you find it very odd some of the things I've been saying about hot summer, tropical storm hits California, including Palm Springs? No, not at all. As a matter of fact, most of the country so far in the heart of the summer has been below normal. The extreme heat has been from Arizona through Texas, Louisiana, and across the South.

But there's a wide swath from the western part of the United States all the way into the east, including New York City, has been below normal this summer for the heart of the season. And since I work in the energy industry, it's very important that you hit those forecasts because you have to do cooling degree days and the amount of energy that is used. You see, I have to make a forecast for this stuff and not just rely on hyperbole and just running to where the weather is going to be extreme because there's always something happening somewhere. I mean, if you've been looking at this as long as I have and studying some of the stuff my dad was showing me in the 30s, 40s, and 50s, you'd be saying, like, Wow, it's not as bad as it used to be, and it's not. But, you know, the California thing was very interesting.

Man, from last Tuesday, you know, it's kind of funny, Brian. I had, you know, I blogged for CFACT and I had a blog on nine days in advance of Ian saying attention, Governor DeSantis. That was the, it was just a little blob of clouds near Barbados.

Well, to make sure that I play equally, on Tuesday on Twitter, I said attention, Governor Newsom. And this is when the cloud mass that was not yet Hillary was coming off the coast, but you could see what was going going to happen with it because it was textbook. And what we did was this, folks. We analoged it to Kathleen in 1976. There was a hurricane came right up through Baja, a tropical storm into Southern California.

It actually had the highest sustained wind ever at Yuma, Arizona, 57 miles an hour for one minute at Yuma, did $176 million of damage.

So, you know what I was telling my clients, instead of just going back and forth with the, oh, well, this is going this way and that way, I said, look, here's what you do. Take that storm, okay, in today's dollars, it's worth $950 million. the infrastructure increase, if you know what the infrastructure increase. If this storm is comparable to Kathleen, we should have a one point five billion dollar storm. And so what happens is this, the way I can judge the metric of how bad this storm is, is I'll wait for all the insurance to come in.

So if it's one point five to two billion, it was Kathleen in nineteen seventy six because that's what that storm did. The 39 tropical storm, which hit up north in Santa Monica, actually did make landfalls a tropical storm, but up to the north, We had six tropical storms, including a hurricane that impacted California in the 1800s. And of the last twenty out of the last forty storms that have dumped have impacted California, tropical cyclones because they die and come up sometimes, twenty-six of them were during El Niño season since 1950. Guess what? It's an El Niño season.

What do you think is going to happen?

So it's like, what I find is the thing that I could give an advantage to folks is I know what happened before. And it's really weird watching the weather media today because they just all parrot each other. Why don't you sell something that puts it in perspective before the other guy sees it? And then perhaps you can come up with a different angle so viewers or listeners or whatever will come to you because it's all out there. It's all out there for you to see if you look.

So is the planet heating up and are we responsible? Oh, yeah.

Well, this is this is, yeah. And it's, and I've been, I've been all over this for the last 30 years. We've had an increase in underwater volcanic activity, which has warmed the oceans. Everybody wants to sweep it under the table. I call it Hunter-Biden laptop meteorology.

Oh, no, no, just ignore that over there. Don't worry about that. But, you know, I put together PowerPoints and show people that from the 1950s through the 1980s, even as sea. CO two was rising like mad. There was no increase in the sea surface temperatures.

It all began in the 90s and is really escalating because of the cumulative buildup of heat from geothermal effects. There's an increase in underwater volcanic activity, and that, of course, releases water vapor into the air because the ocean's warm. And then, of course, water vapor leads to the warming that you're seeing now. But I suspect the same thing was going on in the medieval warm period and some of the other climate optimums. That's what we're in, folks.

A climate optimum. If you actually look at the geological time scale, because life thrives when it gets a little bit warmer like this, and so I suspect that was going on before.

Now, what I see happening is, you know, the weather is so linked. It's so linked. You know, carbon dioxide, people go, well, it's a heat-trapping gas. No, it's not. You know what it does?

It has radiative properties. Back radiate into the atmosphere and it tries to warm the atmosphere. All right, so that you know, we had the big introduction in the 70s. There should have been some response. Just a lot second.

It only penetrates a millimeter of the water.

So where do you think the warming of the ocean is coming from?

Something that has penetrates a millimeter or something from below or the sun? Which but just think about that. It would have to be from below, but no one ever brings that up.

Well, I know. And you know what? It's fascinating. You know, when I started speculating on this after the El Nino 15-16, I said, okay, now they have to see what's going on, right?

Now the guy's on the other side. And actually, there was an AP article that says: scientists examining other reasons for warming. And they're starting to do that, but it's going to be a drip, drip, drip type thing. Just like you see in other things, folks. I'll tell you what, it's mind-boggling.

I'm 68. I can't believe the weather. the weather from something I love since I was three has been dragged into the same sewer that we see across the board. And that's what it is to me, a sewer. Here's the governor of Hawaii.

I got to get you on this. Cut forty. Mm-hmm. Climate change is here. We are in the midst of it with a hotter planet.

and fiercer storms. And you asked the question, I'm coming back to it right now. Do I wish those sirens went off? Of course I do. And I think that.

The answer that the emergency administrator from Maui, who's resigned, said. Was, of course, utterly unsatisfactory to the world. But it is the case that That we've historically not used those kind of warnings or fires.

So this Governor Josh Green says it was really unseasonably dry because of climate change and the whole island blew up because of the climate change. It was a bit drier than normal. It's a bit warmer than normal in Hawaii.

Okay, is New York City's bull New York City has not had an official heat wave this summer, Brian?

Okay, so is that climate change too? Is the coldest May, June, and July on record in the Arctic climate change? You gotta understand something. And I wrote the book, The Weaponization of Weather in the Phony Climate War. That's exactly what they're doing.

The governor of Hawaii, if he was his National Weather Service in Honolulu, nailed this forecast Tuesday night. Their discussion was talking about the extreme northeasterly trade winds that were going to develop, which happened on Hawaii from time to time. It wasn't the Hurricane Wade to the south. That was a pinprick, for goodness sakes. But the weather service Tuesday night nailed the strong winds with forecasting damaging winds.

It just so happened all these fires went off, right?

Now, why did the fires go off?

Well, it could have been power lines. It wasn't lightning. It could have been a campfire. But that's not climate change. And having something that happens in Hawaii two or three times, that's why they have high wind warnings on Hawaii sometimes.

You see, same thing for those of you. Been to Aruba, you know, you're sitting here, it's a sunny day, the wind's blowing 50 miles an hour. What the heck is going on here? You get those kind of trade wind situations in certain weather situations. They've been occurring since time eternal.

Okay, so you know, and what the what these people do is they either don't know what has happened before or they have an agenda that prevents them from looking so they can push it. And that's what I that's my conclusion after 50 years doing this. You know, I was talking to Michael Schoenberger on One Nation over the weekend, and he says, if you really care about the environment, it'll be nuclear and natural gas. Amen. I've just put together that.

Do you know this? You want to plumb the depths of dumb? You know, Montana is a carbon-negative state. Even Pennsylvania, in Pennsylvania, we have 5 billion trees, each ridding us of 50 pounds of carbon dioxide. That's 250 billion pounds of carbon dioxide.

We only admit 156 billion.

So we are technically a carbon dioxide negative state based on emissions versus the amount trees are taken out. I said that on Tucker a couple of years ago. I said, you plant a lot more trees, nuclear power. We also have point of capture, point of combustion carbon capture now. But these people, it's not about this.

See, that's the thing is that you can undress them and say, okay, let's build five new nuclear power plants. Why can't we do that? I got to tell you something, folks. I am an old greeny, lefty environmentalist, okay? I'm a Kennedy Democrat.

I tell people this all the time. You are plastering mountains with solar panels and wind turbines. It's unbelievable. What you're literally doing is you're chopping down trees that are nature's natural carbon scrubber, and you're replacing them with these things.

Now, I've got nothing against solar or wind as a supplement. It's like taking glutamine if you're a bodybuilder. It's not going to be your main diet. But what they're trying to do is, I believe, is to is to, listen, I got to believe because of what electricity prices are going to do, all right, it's going to launch you into a situation where you're not capable of doing whatever you want to do as a free person.

So, yeah, we'll see. Who knows? God knows. I don't. Right.

And thank goodness that somebody in the weather business admit they're not God. Joe Bestarti, co-checked me to rehearse.

Okay. And Brian, before you go, that's the greatest lesson of meteorology. It's brought me closer to God because it's taught me humility. And I tell that to people all the time: man, the majesty of the atmosphere: the more I know, the less I know. That's how I look at it.

So glad you brought that up. God bless you. Enjoy the weather. It's the only weather you got. And if you want to follow Joe at Big Joe Bastardi, go get him, Joe.

Thank you. I bless you, bye. All right, back with more to know. This is the Brian Kill Me Joe, and now you do know more. Giving you everything you need to know, you're with Brian Kilmead.

Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Joe. There are things you can run on. I'm a little confused about the whole bionomics thing because you're trying to convince people of something. You're trying to convince them their own impressions about the economy are wrong.

And so if you look, for example, at how Hispanic and black voters feel about the economy, they'll tell you it stinks.

Now, they can keep saying, but we have the CHIPS Act. But we have the IRA. At the end of the day, you can't convince someone that they're feeling, how they're feeling about the economy is wrong. And that's what this election is going to come down to. And I get that they're trying to present a proactive message.

But at the end of the day, it's very difficult, I think, to do that when people feel. They simply feel differently. That's the Hoover Institute's Lonnie Chen, who worked and was a was head of Mitt Romney's election campaign, just talking about the mystery of but running on bidnomics. When you have to go uh job, you have uh low unemployment. I got it.

They added jobs. A lot of them are coming off the pandemic. You're incorrectly stating what's happening with the deficit. It's actually last year before the pandemic, it was about $850 billion. This year, it is $1.5 trillion, and he says it's coming down.

It's not. It's way overdone. And now, all the spending he signed on and created, or the Senate created, he signed off on it, is now coming to fruition. We don't have that money, and people aren't benefiting from that. And guess what?

With interest rates at 7.5% to get a house, nobody's selling. Nobody's selling a house that they have a 3% mortgage on to get another one with 7%. And a lot of people aren't buying because they can't get a mortgage for less than 7%. That's more than they budgeted.

So the ripple effect are pretty obvious. Let's find out if there's even more to know. More. To know. Get this, an American-owned tanker is off-loading oil.

What's the big deal? It's in Texas. It is Iranian oil. The ship tracking data analyzed the AP showed the Marshall Islands flag Suez Razion began the hours-long trip to ship transfer of its oil to another tanker at MR Euphrates, right near Galveston, some 70 kilometers off the southeast of Houston. The fate of the cargo ship has become mired in the wider tensions between the U.S.

and Islamic Republic. Iran has been trying to evade sanctions to continue to sell its oil abroad, while the U.S. and its allies have been seizing cargoes since 2019. We'll see where that goes.

Next, scientists working in Peru to have named a new species of snake after Harrison Ford in honor of Indiana Jones. What a relief. The new snake is in the jungle mountains of Atishi National Park, St. Marcos National University. It was not until now that researchers concluded it was indeed a previously unknown species.

The creature is a yellowish-brown color with black spots and a black belly and copper eyes. And they're thinking it reminds him of Harrison Ford. I found out that Harrison Ford agreed to have his name via consultation with the Conservationist International Mode.

So congratulations, Harrison. You got yourself a snake.

Next. This is something you should keep paying attention to. Beset by domestic economic woes, China's President Xi visits South Africa. His second trip abroad, its whole BRIC team, you know, those guys like India, Venezuela, Russia, not the U.S. They meet with South Africa and they talk in Brazil.

And they talk about what a great global trade agreement they have. And they're going to have, they believe they control 40% of the global population, and they're to be reckoned with. The problem with China is losing a lot of steam because their economy is cratering big time. There's nothing left to build, and people can't get jobs, especially young people.

Next. Democratic lawmaker plans to move forward with a four-day workweek, but here's the key: it's not a 40-hour workweek from four days, it's 32 hours. They think it's going to make them more productive. This is Congressman Ronnie Green. Good luck with that, Ronnie.

As the state legislature is anti-American. If you want to do a four-day workweek, that's 32 hours. That's part-time work. And I don't think you should get workers' comp, nor should you get unemployment. Uh next.

Burger King cook, who hasn't missed a work day in 27 years, has got a GoFundMe page of $400,000 in donations. His name is Kevin Ford. He worked as a cooking cashier in the Las Vegas airport. Went viral last year after he posted on TikTok, celebrating his 27 years of work without calling in sick or missing any time. That is awesome.

People really respect that. I gotta say this. Even light drinking isn't good enough to prevent type 2 diabetes and obesity. A team working with the endocrine society, which I didn't know there was one, finds people limit themselves to just one or two drinks daily, still don't have better protection from type 2 diabetes.

So, drink away, you're not helping yourself by limiting yourself to how much you consume, unless, of course, you're driving. It's a different situation. And consumption of magic mushrooms and other hallucinogenics by young people nearly doubled over the last three years. Thank you, Aaron Rodgers. A drink a day could keep heart attacks away, according to the American College of Cardiology.

And nine in ten kids surveyed say they consume YouTube content, and 60-60% of those view happens on connected TV. This is kind of scary for people in cable television, but it is indeed the case. That is indeed the culmination of more to know, and now you do know more. I feel as though I've done a public service, and I'm really glad I did. Don't forget to go to BrianKillmeShow.com.

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