FBI whistleblowers testify, claim retaliation in chaotic Congressional hearing

From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead. Hi everyone, I'm Brian Kilme. Welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kilmey Show.

So glad you're here. Man, we have a lot going on. In a matter of moments, we're going to hear about the weaponization of government committee. We already had a preview during Fox and Friends, and I'll bring you some of that sound. It's just amazing to me.

It's amazing to me this. If you're a whistleblower in government, you would think you have whistleblower protections, and they would be afraid to retaliate against you. And I'm thinking about Matt Taibby. Matt Taibbi. For years, wrote for the Rolling Stone.

Now he's independent on Substack. Then he gets called by Elon Musk to go look at some of the Twitter files, at which times he does that, starts reporting on it, goes to testify. And because it's so negative towards Democrats and how they put their hand on the scale with the laptop and the election, The IRS is going to start auditing him. They actually knock on his door while he's testifying, and they don't care that everybody knows. I'll go over it again.

Congressman Carlos Yemenez will be joining us at the bottom of the hour. He's from Florida. We'll talk twenty twenty four and also talk about what is bringing Congress together, and it's China. Big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. I believe we can if we come to a good agreement because think of this. The president said he wasn't going to negotiate, we were just going to raise the debt ceiling. First of all, we have just now been able to have a victory.

The president could no longer say that. Yep, Kevin McCarthy, the speaker on a roll, lost a leverage for Joe. And a burst of optimism about a debt ceiling deal rises as Kevin McCarthy continues to keep the right tight. Number 10. I believe that China is the most dangerous threat that we face as a nation.

Indeed, it may be the most perilous adversary we have ever had. Robert Lighthizer would know, U.S. versus China. President Biden tries to keep allies together at the G7 and is fixated on China as he talks in Japan. Finally, Silicon Valley Dems and the GOP are on the same page.

But will they sign off on the same plan? Will the president truly be on board? Number one. It's not just going after presidential candidates, presidential campaigns. Today it's the American people.

If you're a parent attending a school board meeting, you're a pro-lifer praying at a clinic, or you're a Catholic simply going to mass, you are a target of the government, target of the FBI. And it is, and that's where we'll begin. Weaponization of government inaction and denial at Durham conclusion is in full stride as Dems attempt to deny, confuse, and intimidate those who have not read the report and intimidate whistleblowers who want to report the corruption at the highest level of the FBI. You know, just to give you a preview of what was going on, Matt Gaetz was like a talk show host. Jim Jordan opened up.

Matt Gaetz on the Weaponization Government Committee came out and said, I'm just going to show you two soundbites. FBI agents who stepped up because they see a problem. They see a problem with the FBI getting involved. With these School bo these school board of education hearings. He said, I don't think we should be involved in this.

He becomes a whistleblower. He gets excoriated and retaliated against. Then we have another whistleblower that steps up and says, you want me to stop pursuing Child abusers, in order to pursue January 6th, people, and you won't even show me the video of these evidently these citizens in my bureau and my auspices that made these violations. What's wrong with you? I'm not going to do that.

As well as what people have noticed with the election and lack of pursuit when it comes to Hunter Biden, whistleblowers stepped up. And they blatantly retaliated against.

So. And uh their names Their names are out there, and I'm not they're now full face, ready to go. And in fact, we saw them this morning. There's going to be four whistleblowers in particular. And I want Democrats to be just as upset, and I know people think I'm dreaming.

Steve Friend, a whistleblower, former FBI agent. They've already retaliated against him. Wouldn't even let him to his clothes. Marcus Allen, a whistleblower, FBI staff and operations specialist. And Brett Gloss, who we're looking at right now on television, he'll be a witness too.

Garrett O'Boyle, actually, Garrett O'Boyle is who we're seeing right now. He's a special agent. Tristan Levitt is also supposed to testify. And we just think we have to protect whistleblowers. I don't care what they say.

They might come out and say Donald Trump is the worst person in the world, and this is my proof, and this is what I'm comfortable with. I want that person protected, and you should not be losing your job. That's how that's what I think. Here's Jim Jordan for a short time ago, cut four. We know from the Durham report that these agencies have been weaponized and they'll go after our presidential candidate.

But it's worse today because they will target the people. A parent at a school board meeting, a pro-life praying at a clinic, a Catholic attending Mass. They will target people. And if you're brave like Mr. O'Boyle and you come forward and tell the truth, then they will try to crush you.

They will retaliate against you, just like they did to Garrett O'Boyle, a guy who served our country and is now with 250 days without getting paid because they took his clearance from him. How crazy is that? I mean, everything that we thought the government was set up, this is, you know, when Edward Snowden defected instead of becoming a whistleblower, I was one of the first people to say we have a system in place to protect whistleblowers. Why didn't he do that? Instead, he ends up going to Hong Kong and then he's in Russia.

What's wrong with him? And I hated what he did, leaking out these stuff because it makes America weaker and more vulnerable. That's what I thought. But if I see these FBI agents who everyone knows they're going to go public and they have access to a House now in the majority, and the FBI, they still don't care. And the next time I see Christopher Wray talking about, wow, how I straightened everything out and how the path is clear if anyone sees anything wrong, I could just say you're a flat-out liar.

Because you have not straightened out your agency. And if you did, you would have called last night when this became and I'm sure you knew about this ahead of time. When the retaliation became public, you should have stepped up and said, This is the first time I knew about it. I'm taking action on it. I'm going to restore these guys' pay.

I'm going to find out what they have to say. But I haven't heard a word from them. I hope. That he didn't know about it. and I hope that he comes forward on it.

So we'll dip it in and out of this testimony throughout the day. Molly Hemingway. I was talking about what's going on with the Dorm report. I'm astounded. Shouldn't be.

I'm astounded about what's going on. You read the three hundred and six pages. of the dorm report. This is the overall view. No collusion between Russia and Trump.

Never was. There was no predicate to launch an investigation. Never should have been. No obviously, if there's no reason to investigate, If there's no reason to launch an investigation, you don't need a mullah report to find out what exactly went wrong. Hence, Thirty million dollars for the Mueller report.

6.5 million for the Durham Report, a country. 100% hamstrung. Both sides of the aisle. The hatred threw the roof, families broken up. He did collude, he didn't collude, Trump's the worst, Trump's the best.

This all fomented it. And you had people with political motivations at the higher echelon of the FBI who still don't admit how disgraced they are. The worst in the House is Adam Schiff. Scarily, he wants to be the Senator, and if it's allowed to go without a special election, Adam Schiff will replace Senator Feinstein at the end of her term. He's the favorite of Nancy Pelosi, who mentored this loser.

Even though he should be disgraced, he promised and kept talking about the collusion that took place. He still is in denial about the contents of the Durham investigation. Cut one. This is an investigation that started in a flawed manner. It was conducted in a flawed manner, and its conclusion is a flawed conclusion.

Flawed conclusion? What's flawed about it? There was no dossier was total fiction. Christopher Steele never went to Russia. Dashenko wasn't in Russia.

Working, we thought, as a Russian agent in America, now for the Brookings Institute, should have been put in jail. Everything that you chased down, Papadopoulos, Ambassador Downer, casual conversation, massive investigation. This was what's in the report, and this is what I urge you.

Sometimes you pick up these documents and they're legal documents. I didn't go to law school and I think to myself, I can't even concentrate. This is so thick with legal ease. Not the Dorm Report. It really it does read easy.

Don't think three edge of pages I'm so busy I got nine kids and nine places to be at the same time. I know it. But if you really want to know what happened and be disabused of the fact that Trump ever was in bed with Russia and that it wasn't a collosa waste of time, just read it. Arm yourself. Here's more from Adam Schiff, cut two.

The Durham investigation, and again, this was an investigation. Donald Trump demanded an investigation of the investigators. Bill Barr was only happy enough to comply by the appointment of Durham. Durham spends four years trying to prove this deep state conspiracy theory. that Trump kept telling his base was going to be proven.

People like Brennan and Pelosi and Schiff and others were going to be prosecuted. The whole thing, of course, was a big bust. Listen, it wasn't a bust. They listened in on Michael Flynn's phone calls, Papadopoulos, Carter Page, they got a Pfizer warrant, never informed Trump. Paul Mataford, they looked looked at old charges and put him in solitary confinement to break him and get him to admit that Donald Trump was an agent of Vladimir Putin.

What do you mean? These are dry holes. This is all a farce. This was illegitimately done. That doesn't fly.

But I look at the headlines now. After years of political hype, the dorm inquiry failed to deliver. That's the New York Times. The Atlantic headline. David From Who came up with The uh axis of evil.

He wrote a sinister flop. Special Counsel John Durham served up and not an investigation, but an excuse for future partisan abuses. What is he talking about? This exposed the partisan abuses. Where was the Republican abuse?

I mean, that's these guys are so blind with anti Trump rage, they can't even do what Jake Tapper did and said this looks the FBI looks terrible, and in many ways, Donald Trump's been vindicated. Believe me, you think that's easy for him to say? Did you see how exercised he was after the Trump downhaul? It wasn't.

So, I, you know, this is the thing: I worry that moderates undecided. Persuadables Are going to see the preponderance. of press that thinks the Durham investigation was a waste, that doesn't remember the Mueller investigation showed no collusion, that Horowitz showed the problem as an inspector general appointed by President Obama with all this. And they say the Horowitz investigation was very similar to Durham. You can't like Horowitz and not like Durham.

Nicole Parker, I just wanted to bring this back up, a whistleblower, former special agent who left the FBI because she doesn't like the direction was going. This is what she said after the Dorm report cut nine. Americans deserve better. And they say You know, many are saying, Oh, well, this Durham report, this is not legitimate. This is not, you know, that's not the FBI saying that.

I can tell you right now, as a former agent, back in 2019 when the Inspector General's report came out, It was very clear that the FBI had failed. The FBI failed, and they made major mistakes. And the FBI admitted to those mistakes, and now, through the Durham Report, it's becoming very, very clear what those mistakes were. And people do need to be held accountable. These were agents that were assigned to do this.

These are unbiased agents. They were doing the fact-finding. There was proof that there was information that had not been corroborated that was being used to go before a FISA court to swear out a warrant. That is completely unacceptable. That is not okay.

It's not okay, it never will be okay. And that's why the weaponization of government is so important to point this out.

So we'll see. And I'll go into some highlights. Uh this representative from The Virgin Islands is speaking now, and this woman is just a firebrand. Wants to cut everything on race. Is not even in front of these.

This is one of these women who were so dismissive on Matt Taibbi and Michael Schellenberger when they came out with the Twitter files that were exposed by Elon Musk when he spent billions of dollars to buy Twitter. She goes out there, winning and let him speak, so-called journalists.

So this is the woman who's a disgrace. And now she's speaking and she's talking about all the things that are done with white cops in front of to black men and women.

So, not even talking to the FBI about why the FBI whistleblows about what they're saying.

Now, if you want to come and press them with pertinent questions, do it. Go ahead. Try to find out if the whistleblower has an agenda. Maybe they do. Let's find out.

But to go over there and talk about something that has nothing to do with them is unbelievable. But you could be concerned. over there in the Virgin Islands about what's going on here with equal uh equal justice. But you're not. Lastly, on the debt ceiling, for the longest time, Speaker.

Um Hasard Newt Gingrich was a rock star, but you could say Boehner all the time. Paul Ryan a little bit. And Kevin McCarthy takes over with this small majority, fourteen votes, fourteen rounds of voting before he becomes Speaker with this four vote advantage. No one expected him to be effective. In fact, people expected one year in for them to vote to get rid of him.

But now he's passed a major piece of legislation through the House. on a border plan. And what the criteria would be to raise the debt ceiling. And now you have Joe Biden who said, I'm not negotiating on it.

Well, he stepped up, did Ken McCarthy put a plan in front of him. Then all of a sudden, the G seven creeps up on him. The world economies are responding to the fact that we might be welching out on a lot of our debts, which is going to ripple through all the G seven economies. He's going over there to meet with them. He sees the embarrassment.

He can't say I'm negotiating.

So he has to go out there and show optimism that we're going to come up with a debt deal, and he's going to go, but he's going to leave early in order to show his sincerity. Kevin McCarthy brilliantly using the G7 and unifying his party. Has now gotten leverage on the debt ceiling debate. And here's why it's important. We're over budget.

So he's saying Put a work requirement when it comes to able-bodied people getting welfare. It's a way to get back into the workforce, giving you a sense of worth, and also. No free lunch. There are people that are not going to qualify for workforce. They can't if they wanted to.

I understand that. They're disabled or in an impossible economic situation. Divorce, one kid, no daycare, no money, can't do the work component. I understand it. There might even be a school component with it.

And then going back to the 2022 budget, one year. One year. And then repurposing the pandemic money. Those are the types of things that would be done for the debt ceiling, and then maybe sincerely go over the budget and go through some cuts.

So it looks like Kev McCarthy's in the driver's seat. We got a lot to talk about. I want to take your calls next: 1-866-408-7669. Carlos Jimenez will be at the bottom of the hour. You're next.

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He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Killmeade. It's not just going after presidential candidates, presidential campaigns. Today it's the American people. If you're a parent attending a school board meeting, you're a pro-lifer praying at a clinic, or you're a Catholic simply going to Mass, you are a target of the government, target of the FBI.

And maybe even worse than all that, if you're one of the thousands of good employees, Brave whistleblowers is willing to come forward. If you're one of these folks willing to come forward and talk about what's going on out there, you get attacked. They will try to crush you. That is Jim Jordan at eight o'clock this morning. He just had opening statements again.

And now you have the FBI agents, the whistleblowers stepping forward. You got Garrett O'Boyle talking now. Iraq and Afghanistan joins the infantry, master's degree in law enforcement, was a cop and now is an FBI special agent. Because he stepped up, because he saw things wrong, he's now looks as a malcontent, and they're trying to And they're trying to destroy him. He's doing the right thing.

I cannot wait to hear more from him. I'll bring it to you. Jay, listen on WDBO. Hey, Jay. Oh, hey Brian, sorry I was on mute.

Uh, yeah, Brian, I just want to kind of give you an independent view of the Durham report and um. what we're seeing from our perspective, so the Durb report takes four years and there's a whole all this buildup and stuff like that. And there there is no indictment. Um So then, you know, it's it's You know, th you guys uh Republicans are talking a big game about, you know, Biden and all this type of stuff, but once again, there's no indictment, so it's it's very hard for Independent voters to keep hearing all this buildup and build up. But did you build up?

Jay, I understand, but there were two indictments, three. Klein Smith actually forged a FISA document that said that Carter Page was not a CIA asset. He was. And they wrote, well, I got to write not so I can get that Pfizer report done.

So Kleinsmith was guilty. The other two were indicted. They went to a jury, and the jury found him innocent. They weren't. It was Washington, D.C.

But, Jay, if you read it. Law and order aside, jail and prison aside, you understand there was no reason for the investigation. Trump was not guilty. There was no collusion, but there was a movement to make him illegitimate. Information you want, truth you demand.

This is the Brian Kill Me Show. My Republican colleagues would like me and others to believe that they've suddenly found religion when it comes to misconduct in law enforcement. Give me a break. When the FBI is rifling through personal correspondence of people of color, When law enforcement tries to push policies to limit the freedom of people practising a different religion, or unjustly pursuing people in cars who look like Philando Castile or my children, or who are just going about their business, or breaking down the doors of people's homes like Breonna Taylor, Do you think my Republican colleagues care about that? They don't bat an eye.

But when the FBI investigates conservative Christian white men who are actually threatening violence, suddenly my Republican colleagues are rushing to defund the police. This Virginia Virgin Islands Representative Stacey Plaskett continues to astound with her idiocy, trying to find out why whistleblowers are being attacked and what their message is. And because they happen to be white FBI guys who have lost their security clearance and have their lives destroyed, she has to bring up Breonna Taylor. I mean, this is just nuts. Can you stay with the topic?

I mean, I don't know why these people, what these people think they're doing for a living. Congressman Carlos Jimenez joins us now. House Armed Services Committee, Homeland Security in China Select Committee. And we'll get to all of that. But what an important hearing's going on right now.

FBI agents with illustrious careers and great backgrounds. Or have their record have their lives destroyed by the FBI for being whistleblowers. Congressman, I didn't think this could happen. Neither did I, but this is how far we've we've come. The weaponization of the of the federal government is real.

And it started some time ago. I believe it started during the Obama administration. And there may have been a pause, but I don't think President Trump had enough time to really clean out what had happened the previous eight years. And then now, you know, it's going full blast with the Biden administration.

So this has been a long time coming, Brian. It's not something that just happened yesterday. Right. I mean, we're talking about this guy, for example, who's just speaking, Garrett O'Boy. Garrett O'Boyle fought in Iraq and Afghanistan.

He was in the infantry. Then he decides I'm going to be a police officer, get a master's in criminal justice. And then my goal was, his goal was to be a special FBI agent, and he was. He saw what was going on there, spoke up, and then had his life destroyed, his background expunged. He has not been paid because he was a whistleblower.

You got this guy, Steve Friend. They won't release his records that he has a firearms training, so he can't even get a job at the Department of Agriculture because he's a whistleblower. Marcus Allen, African-American, by the way, whistleblower, FBI operative, a specialist. He's going to be speaking right now. Again, these guys step up.

They know they're going to have their day in the limelight to tell their story. And the FBI doesn't care. Doesn't that blow you away that the FBI doesn't care? that they are punishing whistleblowers. Yes.

And look, the problem is that the FBI, DOJ, they work for the executive branch and the President of the United States. And like I said, Those branches of government, the upper echelons, and I'm talking about, I'm not talking about the rank and file, the rank and file are good people trying to protect America every single day, but the upper echelon, the ones that control the FBI, are political in nature. And there's no doubt about it. Look, what happened to President Trump? The entire Russia collusion hoax.

Everybody knew that was a hoax. They started an investigation to try to delegitimize a sitting United States president simply because they did not agree with that president's views and they were from a different political party. And so it's very dangerous. It's something that you see in third world countries. And I'm very happy that Jim Jordan is doing the job he's doing, exposing what's exactly going on in some of our some of our departments.

How often does that happen when this woman like Stacey Plaskett sees these FBI agents there to tell their story, sees that they're being retaliated against, and just brings up something totally different that has nothing to do with this case or these stories, and of course brings race into it? How often does that happen in these hearings? Because I don't, you know, I'm on the air and I'm not, you know, a lot of this stuff's on C-SPAN. Yes. Well, listen, that's they'll do that in order to get their thirty seconds, and then that's what will be shown on the major media outlets.

not not what the uh not what the the testimony was, what not what the abuses are, but really this kind of sidebar to really kind of take you off on a different tangent. And then that's what the the meet the media, the mainstream media is going to be using to try to educate the American people. And so that's the problem that we have, Brian. You know, we just We have a willing media that is covering up for the abuses of this administration, covering up for what's really right in front of their eyes and not informing the American people, which is that look, a free press is critical to America, it's critical to our freedom. But a free press means that it's free, that it's not It's not siding with one side or the other.

It's not trying to cover up stuff. And before on the break, you had 1974, the Watergate investigation. You had a couple of reporters that looked at a wisp of smoke, a wisp of smoke, this break-in, and said, Hey, there must be a fire there. Today, reporters have raging Code I fire right in front of them, and their question is, What fire? All right.

So, I mean, that's the difference between the media journalism today and the journalism that you have back in the 70s and 60s, and right up until this century. Yeah, and by the way, this guy, Marcus Allen. He's speaking now and says that there's a crackdown on people with conservative views inside the FBI. For the longest time, conservatives were the ones that considered law and order, always had the cops back, and they had vice versa, and the military too. But they're going out of their way to change that.

And now you have a legitimate crime crisis, defund and defame the police. According to the National Paternal Order of Police, in 2023, 99 officers have been shot, 10 have been killed. The amount of officers shot in line of duty is up 57 percent from 2020.

So we got a huge problem in this country, and I'm not, I thought we were beginning to turn the corner on it. Do you have any reason to believe we are? At this point, no. I mean, I think, look, the narrative of defunding the police, I don't think, is a very popular one. And so the Democrats even started to back away from this.

Well, I know, but most but really most mainstream Democrats have backed away from it. Look, we're going to pass a resolution expressing our support For local law enforcement and condemning efforts to defund or dismantle the police. We're going to do that today. We passed the H.R. twenty four ninety four, the Police Act of twenty twenty three, which says that any migrant who assaults a police officer, that's a deportable offense.

And the four full and the Federal Law Enforcement Officer Services Weapon Purchase Act, it means that a retiring officer can go ahead and purchase their weapons. Those are things that we're passing this week. This is law enforcement week. And we're celebrating that. And we we certainly Support our local officers and our police officers.

You know, what are there other stats that? That's really kind of troubling for me is that the Department of Justice released a report in December showing that as crime was skyrocketing across the United States, federal arrests actually decreased by 35%.

So what in the heck are they doing at the FBI? Are they just targeting their political opponents and not really looking at criminals? And again, all of this comes from the top. Brian, this is not the rank and file members. The top has been weaponized.

The top has been politicized, and they're driving the bus right now. Right. And these whistleblowers, if any FBI agent is upset about the way they're conducting their business, the way the Peter Strzx, the Andy McCabes, and others, the Lisa Page and all these others, they're watching now and they're finding out these stories. These decorated agents, this guy, Marcus Allen, has got his security clearance taken away and his license to carry a gun. They're just denying it.

So when he goes to apply for another job, he can't get it. And he's got to tap into his retirement. And people listening right now who don't know it, FBI agents, it's not a big salary. Right? You work, there's only 35,000 of me working non-stop, very serious cases.

You don't do it to be rich. You don't become cops to be rich. You really can't wait. You can't miss too many paychecks. And this guy's by doing the right thing.

They're getting totally screwed. Correct. And what we hope, though, is that this will bring more whistleblowers to the forefront and go against their leadership. And understanding that they may place themselves at risk. And it's tough, and this is a tough ask because you're talking about people you know, folks with families and they have to feed their children and put food on the table and it's tough to ask.

But the only way that we're going to defeat this is if more and more of these whistleblowers come forward and tell us exactly what's going on at the FBI. You guys need a hammer. Congressman, you guys need a hammer to get their aid back. We do, but remember, Brian, remember, we can pass all kinds of laws here in Congress. The only thing that's going to change is when we have a different president.

Because the DOJ and the FBI work for the President of the United States. And the only way that this can happen, the only way we can really rectify this and clean house, is to have the presidency.

So we need to win the presidency in 2024. That's a different branch of government. We can pass all kinds of laws here. And by the way, you know who enforces the laws that we pass? The same DOJ and the FBI that we're talking about.

And so we can pass a zillion laws here. And unless they enforce it, the federal government, the administrative branch can just thumb their nose at us and say, no, I don't think we're going to do that. Look what's happening at the border, for God's sake. There are laws that prohibit what exactly is happening at the border, yet they continue to do it. Why?

Because they know the DOJ and the FBI are not going to do anything. They're not going to be the laws that we passed. And they keep saying things like, well, they need comprehensive insurance and comprehensive reform, and Congress has dropped the ball. It has nothing to do with it. That is not stopping you from enforcing the border.

So that is a total headphay. Congressman Carl. Carlos Jimenez is our guest, and we're just going over what's happening.

Now, if I am Christopher Wray and I have an ounce of integrity, I'm watching this, and I'm making sure all these whistleblowers are protected, all their rights are restored, all their benefits are restored, their weapons permits are restored.

So, until that time, if they want to continue and where they want to move on, they're allowed to get their reputations back. He cannot stay silent in listening to this. And if not, he's got to present himself and tell me why each one of these men don't deserve their job back and don't deserve protection. But I want to move on and talk about some other things that are happening, one of which. And it's a Dorm report.

It is released. It proves there was no collusion. It proves the $30 million for the Mueller report and the $6.5 million for the Durham report and the Horowitz investigation all show no collusion with Trump and Russia. No apology for those who promised there was and wants to diminish the Dorm's conclusions. Here's Adam Schiff, who should be ashamed to show his face, instead is running for Senate, cut three.

Their response to this big disappointment for Trump and for the MAGA crowd. Let's go after Adam Schiff. Let's go after the person they most view as standing up for the rule of law, as standing up. Against Trump and MAGA World, leading the first impeachment, participating in the January 6th Committee. That's what this is about.

Those Republican members who lack the courage. Is that what this is about? Is that because you guys are looking at getting kicked out of the House? No, I think what this is about, we're searching for the truth. I know, look, I knew the truth that back in 2016, it was obvious that it was the Democrat National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign that actually was colluding with the Russians.

They're the ones that produced the report. They're the ones that paid Russian informants. It wasn't Republican money that did that. And then all of this was circular in nature. And so, again, it was a complicit.

compliant press. That wanted to believe all this, probably even were part of this entire scenario. It was FBI agents and DOJ that wanted to damage the President of the United States, delegitimize the President of the United States to set up a victory for Joe Biden in 2020. It was Adam Schiff knowing that he lied to the American people time and time and time again. And now that all of it's come to light, that he did lie to the American people time and time again.

Look, these people have no shame, Brian. They're not going to sit down there and they're not going to apologize. They're going to double down. And they have a compliant, willing press that will be on their side and tell their side of the story, even though that press knows pretty well that whatever Adam Schiff is saying is a lie. Whatever the president is saying is a lie.

Whatever Majorkas is saying is a lie. We have incident after incident, example after example of how they lie to the American people, but this press, this media, is compliant. Media is part of the entire apparatus. And so, again, it doesn't surprise me what Adam Schiff's going to say. He's never going to admit that he's wrong, for God's sake.

Would you think he'd hide his head down? You think he would just keep his head down? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He's not going to hide his head. He's going to come out and say that we're all a bunch of MAGA Republic.

Well, listen, I am a Make America Great American. Absolutely. I am proud of that. I want to make America great. And so, you know, apparently Mr.

Schiff doesn't want to make America great. I mean, I guess what kind of America does he want? All right, because when he says MAGA Republican, yeah, I'm a Republican and I want to make America great. Yep, okay, fantastic. Label me that all day long and twice on Sunday, please.

Right. Here is the debt ceiling.

Somehow, you guys have gotten leverage in this situation. He's going to be, it seems like he's going to be accepting cuts. He's with the G seven right now. He's got to be a little bit embarrassed and has to explain himself how we might default on our debt and how we didn't want to deal for the longest time. The G7 is leverage, and the fact that you guys passed something out of the House of what it would take to raise the debt ceiling is additional leverage.

Here's the president, cut twenty. I'm confident that we'll get the agreement on the budget that America will not default. And every leader in the room understands the consequences that we fail to pay our bills. And he went on to say that I have in the past accept some work requirement when it comes to welfare, but nothing consequential.

So tell me how you think this plays out and when a deal will be done. don't know when the deal will be done, how it plays out. I don't know because like I said, I never trust what the President says, okay?

So if he's saying that he expects something, I'm not sure that he's not going to retort back to the Fourteenth Amendment. He's got some Democrats on his side saying forget about it and just impose the Fourteenth Amendment and raise the debt ceiling by yourself, something that's never been done in a History, but I wouldn't put it past this president. I would hope that the president would come to the table and negotiate. Look, the House Republicans, we in the House, okay, have already done our job. We have passed the a raising of the debt ceiling, but we also need some spending cuts to go along with it.

Whatever comes back needs to be voted again by this conference and Congress. And so it has to pass 218 members. And so we have faith that Kevin McCarthy is carrying the ball for Congress, at least for the House of Representatives, and we hope. That the president will come to his senses and make some of these cuts, which are just common sense cuts. And the thing is, you don't even have to believe in Congressman.

He has to. Congressman Carlos Jimenez, thanks so much for Florida. Back in a moment, Brian Kilmead Chill. Call his next. It's Brian Kilmead.

From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Kilmead. I've been smeared as a malcontent and subpar FBI employee. This smear stands in stark contrast to my life in public service. This smear campaign, disgusting as it is, is unsurprising. Despite our oath to uphold the Constitution, too many in the FBI aren't willing to sacrifice for the hard right over the easy wrong.

They see what becomes of whistleblowers, how the FBI destroys their careers, suspends them under false pretenses. takes their security clearances and pay with no true options for real recourse or remedy. This is by design. It creates an Orwellian atmosphere that silences opposition and discussion. We know what is right to do, yet we too often refuse to do what is right because of the difficulty and suffering it incurs.

And that is Garrett O'Boyle. He was talking about his situation. That's the one who served in the infantry. One served as a police officer. One got his master's of criminal justice.

Became a special agent in the FBI. Saw some of the corruption in and around him, spoke up, and then they stripped him of everything: his background, ability to get his clothes, ability to get his background in order to get another job.

So he's basically unemployable because he stepped up and did what he's supposed to do. When he saw something wrong, especially in law enforcement, one sought whistleblower protection. But that protection never came. It never came for the other people testifying right now. And that should bother Democrats, too.

I would love to see this is an issue. You don't have to support tax cuts you don't want. You don't have to support foreign policy you don't like. But law and order and whistleblowers, I thought that would be universal. Didn't you?

Write me, BrianKillmee.com. Uh and you should click on comments right on my website.

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So glad you're here. Big day going on. We're going to dip in and out of these hearings with these four whistleblowers in the FBI who stood up, spoke out because they didn't like the politicization for various reasons of the agency and then have their lives destroyed. This is their moment to speak, and every Democrat's going out of their way to find out something nebulous about their testimony they didn't like, something about the hearing that they feel as though it was incorrect.

So instead of giving these people their time who has already served their country, not for zillions of dollars, they're trying to just move through.

So these Republicans and Democrats are arguing with each other rather than try to get to the bottom of these issues. Mark Thiessen standing by. David Bonson will talk a little bit about the economy, the debt ceiling, what the president's trying to accomplish at the G7, where he is right now. Let's bring in Mark Thiessen, former chief speechwriter for Bush, Washington Post columnist, and a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. Mark, welcome back.

Are you watching any of these hearings? I actually have not been watching it yet this morning. I have it on the background, but I've been finalizing a column, so I've been tuning in and out. But I mean, what I can tell you is clear: is that there are, you know, the FBI is in ill repute these days for very good reason, particularly with the Durham report. But there are good people within the FBI who want to fix it, and it's an essential institution for our country.

But these people are being, they have spoken up, and their backgrounds are unbelievable of sacrifice and service. And they have spoken up and they've had their lives destroyed. They knew that when the FBI is doing this, they knew these agents have the ability to go to a lawmaker and a camera and tell their story, and they don't even care.

Now, think about this: if they'll destroy the lives of an agent. and make sure they don't get hired anywhere else by keeping back their security clearance or their weapons licenses or their records. What could they do against me or you, Mark, or anybody listening right now? Yeah, I mean, just read the Durham Report. It's just a damning indictment of the.

The institution. I mean, the most. Damning thing that I found in there was the fact that he says that this is a quote: the FBI personnel, both then and in hindsight, acknowledged they did not genuinely believe there was probable cause to believe that the Trump campaign knowingly engaged in clandestine intelligence activities on behalf of a foreign power, unquote. That they knew that there was that probable cause and they still went after him. It is the most Clear weaponization of our justice system against a political party and a movement and an individual that they didn't like that I've ever seen in my life.

And it's just, and the fact that the media just says treats it like a nothing burger, says, you know, this is nothing to see here, it's because it's an indictment of them, too. Because the media Inherited these lies for two years, and then Mueller came out and said, actually, no. It wasn't true. And they were like, okay, let's move on. And so the Durham report is an inconvenient reminder four years later that no, we can't move on.

It's actually a really corrupt institution that needs to be. Got fundamentally reformed.

So I go to the Washington Post, and Mark Thiessen's column says the Dorm Report is a damning indictment of the FBI. in the media.

Now before I even saw your name on, I go, Finally, somebody's sober. And then I saw it to you. Uh and I that's what I expected. I was hoping I was hoping I know you're never sober. But but then I said I'm like, I wish it was someone I didn't know.

Because I'd expect you to be fair. I wanted someone else to surprise me. Like Jake Tapper did, when Jake Tapper came out and said the FBI looks terrible here, and to a degree, Donald Trump's been vindicated. But everything else is just terrible and inaccurate. After years of political hype, the Durham inquiry failed to deliver.

That, according to Charlie Savage in the New York Times, The Atlantic, a sinister flop. Special counsel John Durham served up an investigation, not an investigation, but an excuse for future partisan abuses. And this goes on. And now there are a couple other columns, but very few. And for the undecided, for the people that have four jobs and five kids or distractions and stress in their life that were undecided, independent, or moderate, I'm afraid they're not going to see Mark Thiessen.

They're going to see the plethora of others. Articles.

Well, in modest defense of the Post, they do hire me and they do employ me and they let me write this stuff.

So that's part of my job of being there. But look, the reality is, I mean, the beauty of today is that there is a diversity of places where you can get your news and that not everybody's tuning in to the Post or the Times, and they're tuning in to Fox News, where they're getting the truth.

So we've got a job to do, which is to balance out this coverage. And you do it every day on and I sometimes do it with you on this radio show and on your TV program. And I do it in the Post. And We've got to get the word out. But this is why, Brian, the trust in the media is at an all-time low.

I mean, there is a I quote in my column a stunning poll, which is a New York Times poll, New York Times Sienna poll.

So the Times should be paying attention to its own poll. But 84% of respondents, this is last October, 84% of respondents see the media as a threat to democracy, including 59% who agreed it was a major threat. And in that poll, more Americans said the media is a major threat to democracy than said Trump is. I mean, that's a New York Times poll.

So, you would think the New York Times would look at its own poll and say, hmm, maybe that's a problem for me. And it stems from. The whole Russia collusion thing, because they parroted these lies for years. It turned out not. And I looked at it when this first came up with the FBI, I was like, okay, FBI is a serious organization.

These are serious accusations. Let's see what they come up with, right? And it turned out that they came up with nothing and that it was all political. And then the media parroted this. And then we get to January, you know, January 2020, after the election, 2021, when Trump is saying that there was election fraud, which there wasn't.

And the media says actually he's not telling the truth. And most Americans don't listen. It's like the boy who cried wolf because they they say, Well, they lied to us about him with the Russia thing. Why should we believe them about the election uh the election stuff? And so when the wolf actually comes and there's a there they and he and there's a the and there's a cl false claim that the election was stolen.

That we have no objective arbiter of truth left in this country because they've so destroyed their credibility because they've made a priority of stopping Trump and all the guardrails. Fell off. The irony is that they want to stop Trump to save democracy, but they've destroyed the fundamental institutions of our democracy in order to stop it. Um and and they've done more damage than he ever did. To me, the four years with Trump remind me of Trying to get on the road and being told to pull over the exits closed, the exits closed, and then you go, Well, I see you drive down the road, you go, There's no reason for that road not to be open.

And those turnoff exits would be something with the Russia investigation. Donald Trump Jr. had this meeting, uh, Paul Manafort has this context. Michael Flynn was invited to this event in Russia. And I'm saying to myself, the North Korea meeting just took place.

I'm saying to myself, This they actually did criminal justice reform in a very effective, bipartisan way. We don't even talk about it. The Abraham Accords, the moving of the every time something would be, okay, this is the news, I'd be forced to get off on the off-ramp and say, What is going on with this? And to me, that happened for four years, and the country was worse off for it. You're 100% correct.

I mean, and many times Trump is his own worst enemy because he keeps giving them the pretext to do it. It doesn't justify what they do, but he keeps giving them reasons to go after him. Like the call with Zelensky, which was not an impeachable offense by any stretch of the imagination, but it wasn't a perfect phone call. It was the opposite. It was really stupid to ask the president of Ukraine to investigate Harr Biden.

You just don't do that.

So, you know, and like, you know, a lot of the things he said during the campaign about Russia, actually, it turned out that his policy was the polar opposite of his language on Russia. He was one of the toughest presidents on Russia since Ronald Reagan. He was probably the toughest since Ronald Reagan, but he said a lot of things about Russia during the campaign that were just dumb. But having a bad Russia policy isn't criminal. And being wrong about Putin isn't criminal.

It's it may be politically wrong. And it's just they they took all the guardrails off of our of our system and then they wonder why nobody trusts them. And that's bad for our democracy. The irony, Brian, is that all of our institutions worked on January 6th, right? Congress ended up doing its job.

Vice President Mike Fence did the right thing. The pro-Trump state legislatures in these states refused to change the electoral votes. The state election officials, Republicans, did the right thing. The Trump-appointed judges ruled objectively. The only institution that failed was the media.

Because they had so destroyed their credibility that nobody, their job was to separate fact from fiction and present an objective story, and they couldn't do it. They couldn't do their job because of this Russia probe, because this, the Russia lies they told, had so destroyed their credibility that nobody trusted them anymore. And so they're the only institution that failed us on that day. You know what's so interesting is it's happening again.

So last night, I'm flipping around to do a show like this and try to get a different perspective. I'm always flipping around. I stopped for a while because it was the same Russia thing all the time, and I just had no interest in it, and I know it was fiction. But last night, they said they have breaking news.

Okay, what's this breaking news on CNN? They have breaking news that Donald Trump knew of the legal requirements when it comes to declassifying that material, and he took it to Mar-a-Lago anyway. And there they go for the next two hours about legal documents in Mar-a-Lago.

Okay, we're back to Jack Smith taken from The Hague to investigate documents to a degree that have been taken by every president from here to kingdom come. They say that Reagan even took some.

Now we find out that Biden took them, hundreds of thousands of documents from the University of Delaware, from his lawyer's office in Boston, from his University of Pennsylvania office in Virginia, and now from his garage with his Corvette.

So, having said all that, they really want the country to go focus on Trump again. On Mar-a-Lago. There is so many stories. Let the investigation happen. We have seen no leaks.

Nobody cares. Nobody cares about the rules of classified documents. You're going to bring in a diamond, bring in a diamond, we'll deal with it. But that's what they live on. They actually live for the next revelation, which means nothing about Donald Trump.

And I'm saying, did you not even read the Durham report? All these dry holes you centered your company down with your exclusive reporting from anti-Trumpers at the archives, which they turn out all to be. Yeah, so you know, here's the thing about the Durham report that they're ignoring that's the most damning is that Igor Dashchenko, the guy who was the source for 80% of the steel dossier. Was under investigation by the FBI for being a Russian spy.

Okay. And that was it was unresolved. He worked at the Brookings Institution, and he went up to a person who he thought was about to join the Obama administration and asked them if they would be willing at a future date to trade money for classified information. And this opened up a investigation. The preliminary investigation found that he had tied to Russian intelligence.

And so they launched a full investigation and then they suspended it because they thought he left the country when he hadn't. And then they start making him a confidential source. They ignore the vetting process.

Some good people in the FBI say, hey, this was never resolved. And they completely steamroll and give him hundreds of thousands of dollars and make him the source. And they don't tell that to the FISA court that he was under investigation for being a Russia spy. And Durham actually says it is possible that a possibility that the FBI ignored was that Dushenko was providing Russian disinformation.

So, the Russian disinformation in the 2016 campaign could have actually been from the Clinton-funded dossier. Not signing up for double Trump, you know, colluding with Russia. This is such a huge story. And it's just and they won't report it. And they won't cover it because we're back to where we were before, which is that Donald Trump could be president again and they've got to stop him.

And anything that could possibly help him that could be positive about him. has to be stopped. And so they won't report it. And here's where, you know, and here's what's uh upside down, is the more Trump looks like he's being unjustly treated, the more uh approval he gets amongst Republicans. Exactly.

Exactly. Because there's a rallying effect. And I get that because he has been unfairly treated.

So, you know, and to some extent, I think they want that. Because they think he's the they look at him and they say he's the guy, he's probably the only guy that Biden can beat. They think they could win, they can beat him, yeah. And and and so that and so they want him to be the nominee, and they want us to rally around him. And they wanted to create that whole dynamic because Biden beat him once, they did he they did really well better than expected in the midterms by beating the candidates who were Trump to Trump endorsed.

They think they won a bunch of elections running against him. They could be wrong, they were wrong. They thought Hillary Clinton was going to beat him, and they were wrong. He could, you know, this is this is dangerous stuff if you think that Trump's a threat to our democracy. And I just want to reset for our audience: the thing that's different, everything no longer is the former vice president who was out of politics for four years, no longer can he portray himself as this moderate influence of professionalism and bringing normalcy back because they've seen his policies.

So if America legitimately looks at both. Administrations and says, What's better for the country? Trump wins. If they want to talk about how bad Biden's doing at the border, how bad he's doing the economy, how bad he's doing overseas, what is going on with the Middle East, with Central and South America, his foreign policy is a train wreck.

Now, having said that, that works to Trump. But that's what was so worrying about the CNN town hall, because that's not what Trump talked about. He'll tell him that as a campaigner. They asked him, you know, obviously they were going to try and let him down there. He didn't walk out saying, let me talk about 2020.

You know that. He did. He did. He had the seat in his pocket. Because he knew they were going to ask you.

He was ready and willing and able to do that. That's what he wanted to talk about. I'm telling you, he wants to talk about that. She asked her first question to him was, you're under federal investigation, blah, blah, blah. Why should Americans make you president again?

And the answer should have been because I was a great president and Joe Biden is a disaster. Look at the disasters he's unleashed. Look at my policies. Which do you want? It's a clear choice.

Do you want this or that? And he said, because the 2020 election, his answer was because the 2020 election was stolen. It was raped. WPA Intelligence Survey. The WPA Intelligence Survey, which I never heard of, but it's in it's out today.

Uh f they looked at fifteen hundred re uh registered voters. Biden beats Trump by seven.

So that's a little disturbing. He beat him by 4.5 last time. Mark, thanks so much for being the voice of reason. Thank you, my friend. Mark Thieson.

Back in a moment. You're with Brian Kilmeade A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. It's up to members of this committee, current and former FBI employees, and indeed all Americans to ensure that the weaponization of our own government against the people comes to an end. No matter the personal cost.

The safeguards currently in place at the FBI are clearly inadequate and must be reworked to protect whistleblowers and others who are inappropriately targeted. The FBI can extract whatever they want from me. I'm willing to bear that burden. I've sworn to defend this country from enemies, both foreign and domestic, even if that means sacrificing my life. I've lived that oath out since first enlisting in the Army, consistently saying, Hear am I, send me.

My oath, however, did not include sacrificing the hopes, dreams and livelihood of my family, my strong, beautiful and courageous wife, and our four sweet and beautiful daughters who have endured this process along with me.

So that is O'Boyle, who served in the Army and he's got this rich background. He can be a whistleblower with the FBI. And And was and right now has lost almost everything.

So he's testifying right now, and just fascinating on the weaponization of government committee. To see the Democrats just being totally rude and abusive with these FBI whistleblowers is unbelievable. See them do the inner fighting to distract and try to delegitimize the weaponization hearing is unbelievable. Debbie Washington Schutz is a despicable human being. She doesn't serve the country well.

Every time she's on camera, and she certainly destroyed the DNC, was just on asking a series of questions and would not let the FBI agent friend answer any of this, any question.

So you ask him a question, you want yes or no? It's an idea yes or no question. He goes to answer, and they cut him off.

So, you serve your country, you whistleblower your country, you get stripped of all your ability to make a living, then you testify to get your rights back, and you're treated like this. A radio show like no other. It's Brian Killmead. I believe we can if we come to a good agreement, because think of this. The president said he wasn't going to negotiate.

We were just going to raise the debt ceiling. First of all, we have just now been able to have a victory. The President could no longer say that.

So no, the debt ceiling will not get raised with no changes.

So Kevin McCarthy, I think, is winning this battle because there is going to be a negotiation because the President of the United States is pretty much boxed in, and he wasn't. He felt as though he had leverage. He goes to the G7 trying to convince them that things will be worked out. David Bonson, founder and managing partner and chief investment officer of the Bonson Group, joins us now. David, first off, the President needs to reassure the G7, these powerful economies, that we're not going to default.

Therefore, he does lose a lot of domestic leverage, doesn't he? Oh, he does. I mean, I think that at the end of the day, Speaker McCarthy got the leverage when the House passed their bill. If they had not done that and they just went and said we're going to hold hostage, the politics would have been terrible for them. Once he got his caucus to pass the bill, this puts it squarely in the president's lap, and now he has global pressure.

And that's a big deal to them. You remember back in 2008, Secretary Paulson having to take calls from China, Saudi Arabia, about Fannie and Freddie. They don't like messaging that our House is not in order with global financial pressure. And it wasn't in order. The world was falling apart.

Our banking system needed TARP. I I guess, so to speak.

So The President of the United States tried to marginalize that passage of that House bill by saying, well, they just want to cut veterans benefits and they want to cut Medicare and they want to cut Communicate. We said, well, no, we got to go back to twenty twenty two spending. That was that's what's in the bill. They left that. Amorphous because they did not want to be pigeonholed into being told they hate seniors and they want to steal their medical business.

Yeah, I think that he tried to marginalize it, but what he mostly tried to do is lie about it, right? He just slandered what they've done. But it I don't even think. I was trying to be nice. Exactly.

But see, that's the problem right now with what the White House is doing is we just take for granted that they're going to spin everything. And in this case, it didn't work. Even this ongoing debate about work requirement, you know, the Republicans did put in there they wanted that on Medicaid. The Democrats look like they're going to fold on that on food stamps. But either way, that's not the same thing as saying you want to cut benefits.

You want to have work requirements that we've had attached to people receiving social safety net forever. And so I think that the lies about this have not really gone well. And clearly, he is negotiating. I don't imagine Speaker McCarthy gets everything he wants at the end. But last I checked, that's how negotiations work.

I thought so, too. Here's the president, cut 20. I'm confident that we'll get the agreement on the budget that America will not default. And every leader in the room understands the consequences that we fail to pay our bills. And it would be catastrophic for the American economy and the American people if we didn't pay our bills.

You know, there's one thing that really bothers me, what you just played. He switched mid-sentence. He said, default and pay bills. Those are two different things. A default that everyone keeps talking about selectively is a technical term meeting not paying principal or interest on your debt.

The paying bills thing is reshuffling, prioritizing payments. They are not one and the same. We've reprioritized payments dozens of times just in my lifetime. As they've gone through this stuff, they use the threat of default, which can only happen if President Biden makes it happen. He can just simply order Treasury to prioritize not paying the debt.

Yeah, it was a lot of time. You've been down. Yeah, everyone knows this. We're able to move money around. Of course.

So this just came across. Democratic lawmakers are warning President Biden against negotiating at all with Kevin McCarthy. Senate Dems raised the alarms about it. This is the quote from Hawaii Democrat Brian Schatz. He says, yes, he's negotiating.

I don't know what else you can call it. No, we're not going to swallow that. I think it is a preposterous that the Speaker of the House has woken up sometime this week and decided that work requirements for needy families was a hill to die on. No, it was some of the work requirements that were part of welfare reform in 1995, I think it was. Signed by President Biden.

Signed by Kevin Ridge. I voted yes by President Biden. Yeah, by Senator, yeah, by Senator Biden.

So Kevin McCarthy says, yeah, I want a work requirement. By the way, there's so many positives to a work requirement with welfare because people that legitimately want to work and get back to work. They're getting this paycheck, or they are lazy, and it's not for the single mom just got divorced, lucky to make payments, they can't afford health care. It is for somebody who's able-bodied and getting welfare checks. You go out there and you go ahead and you do some form of service, you're in the workplace.

That's where you're going to make connections. That's how you're going to get back there. That's how you restore some self-esteem. Also, 2022 spending, when was 2022 that long ago? Oh, wait a second, a year ago.

What's so bad about getting back to 2022 spending?

Well, the reality is that we are trillions of dollars more in debt than we were just a few years ago. And that if people were being really fiscally hardliner about this, they'd be demanding cuts. He's not demanding cuts, he's demanding freezing spending in place, slowing the growth of spending. That work requirement thing, by the way, let's be clear, doesn't require them to find a job either. requires them to be looking for one.

And so people down on their luck that are in the merely going through the process of looking for a job. But that's something that Bill Clinton agreed to, that when he was a senator then voting on it, President Biden agreed. My argument: if I were a liberal Democrat who loved Social Safety Net, and I'm not, If I were, I would support a work requirement because I think that it's about the dignity of the person, and it's absolutely awful to think that we want to codify and institutionalize dependency on the state.

So with President President Biden going there. Kim McCarthy was critical of him going. He's got to go. I think he's got to go show up, go to Japan, talk to everyone. I think for national security reasons to show a unified front in front of China, personally, I know Kevin McCarthy is critical of that.

I'm not. But in terms of politics, if they're able to come back and get a lot of what McCarthy proposed, this is what Axios' Josh Kreschauer said last night, Cut 23. This is a a far cry from when Biden Was saying he would not negotiate with Republicans under any circumstances. And the reaction you're hearing from Senator Markey, Senator Merkley, the progressives on Capitol Hill, I think reflects the worry, the desperation that Biden is going to play ball. He is going to support maybe cutting some spending, not exactly everything the House Republicans want, but maybe there will be work requirements as part of a compromise.

And look, it is a testament to Kevin McCarthy. He's had a nice two-month stretch here where he has focused on crime, immigration, and spending cuts. And if Biden does end up compromising with House Republicans, that's a nice trifecta for Speaker McCarthy. You agree? Oh, it's really been a good couple months for Speaker McCarthy, better than many of us would have expected.

And I think that President Biden is doing what he should be doing by negotiating. When we say Democrats are criticizing him for negotiating, I think we should be clear: it's a few Democrats, it's really radical progressives. Because if Schumer didn't want it, he could have stopped it. That's right. And most of the central, more moderate Democrats are well aware this is what you're supposed to do.

But you know, I don't think President Biden cares that people are saying, oh, remember when you negotiated with McConnell back in 2012 and we ended up getting the tax extension deal? I think President Biden, in his heart of hearts, knows he did the right thing at that time for the Obama administration, that they weren't going to get a much better deal and that negotiation was a part of it. He and McConnell have been around a long time. They do things I don't like. But Biden is immune to that criticism from the progressives, and particularly since he's given the progressives way more than he should have in the first couple years of this presidency.

So if they want to see an actual deterioration of these circumstances happen, it's not going to be. Blamed on the Republicans now. This is not 2011. It's not John Boehner. It's not Obama popularity.

This will fall under Biden, and the progressives don't know what they're doing politically. David Bonson, our guest, he's the founder of the managing partner and chief investment officer with the Bonson Group. David, when you look right now at what's happening with illegal immigration, normally I wouldn't bring that up to you as a finance guy, but it has everything to do with what's happening in these cities. If you look at how Chicago's reacted, you see how New York is overwhelmed, going to spend $430 billion on these legal immigrants. It's forcing people to pick up and move out of California, out of New York, out of Chicago, and go other places.

What is it doing for where the economy is moving, where the money's moving?

Well, it's certainly one of many grotesque inefficiencies that is suboptimal for the economy and moves money where it shouldn't be moving. We need all of our capital going to things that grow, that create jobs, that meet the needs of humanity by producing new goods and services, doing things like this, dealing with crime. The cost of enforcement, by the way, in the big cities is mostly understated because it gets hidden into the earnings statement of a Walmart, and you don't see what they had to spend for their own shoplifting rebuff and so forth. I think the immigration issue, Brian, at large, is very complicated. I don't always fall on the side of my conservative brethren on this.

I do desire rule of law. I do desire the federal government to do their job. I do desire them to protect the border. I don't want to pretend that we can go deport 17 million people tomorrow. It's not going to happen.

And these days, that kind of gets you called in favor of amnesty or something. It's not really fair. But as far as what you're referring to, what's going on in big cities, cities. Calling themselves sanctuary cities, thumbing their nose at the rule of law. It's a big problem.

It needs to stop. And when you talk about this, you talk about the labor force. We absolutely need more people in the labor force. And many countries are recruiting what we have bleeding into our country at our southern border. There are countries, especially in the Middle East, they need people to work, but we just got to do it in an orderly way.

Get work visas in, figure out a way to do it, and figure out a way to track it. Having 12-year-olds work in sweatshops in a farm for sponsored families as part of a paying off a cartel, pretty much not the American way. But when you're talking about crime, look at Target. Target expects to organize retail crime-fueled losses. They still had their tax, I guess, their stock price increase, but they're now factoring in the amount of theft.

At $1.3 billion to hit their bottom line. And Walmart said this morning, $3 billion.

So in two days, you've had Target and Walmart refer to $4.3 billion of annual shoplifting expense. Two companies, $4.3 billion. It's totally unacceptable. Not merely for the economic loss, by the way, but what it says about the social and cultural fabric of the country, that that kind of loss could be tolerated. It's staggering.

But I do think that the overall crime issue politically is playing well for the Republicans. Culturally, for the sake of our country, we just need bipartisan effort now to put an end to it. And we're not getting that the way you would expect from Democrats. I mean, when you look at, for example, retailers closing up in major cities like San Francisco because they can't control it, because security can't provide it. And they're admitting so.

Nordstrom's is a kind of. CVS. But see, Nordstrom's was interesting because that's kind of a left-leaning company and sort of a bourgeois upper end customer. They came in. And just said, look, we're closing and it's because of crime.

And they closed two stores. And they said, because no one's doing anything about the crime, nobody cares. These are stores that have been there forever. And they flat out admitted this is why. They're going against the talking points to say this is not working.

We cannot do it. It's happening all over. Just a quick look at China. China, I understand, I was just reading yesterday that they have between 18 to 25, they have about 20 percent unemployment. They have a whole generation not working right now in China, and economically, they have not stood up as quick as they can.

They still have supply chain issues. I don't know how much longer they can fuel their Belt and Road program, building up other countries if they seem to be suffering at home. What is the reality of China's economic situation?

Well, it's very complicated. It's nowhere near what the Soviet Union was when they ended up following. When we found out the Soviet Union was a failed economic country, it changed everything about Reagan Cold War policy. One of the big problems is we're a debtor nation and they're a creditor nation.

So we have about 10 percent twin deficits. Our trade deficit and our budget deficit are big, 10 percent of our economy, and we need countries like China to fund that difference. And we have no interest in becoming a better saving country in America. I don't say that. Merely as a criticism, it is a criticism, but I also just say it as a fact.

China is a little different in that they are in the position of selling exports where we're having to buy exports, right? I think that the big competition China sees now is other places in Southeast Asia. It's even Mexico and other more regional North American countries that can serve a lot of those trade needs. Their lockdowns lasted way too long, and there is a big black market in China, too, that that unemployment number overstates. There's a lot of people employed in China that you don't see in the data.

But their economy has not grown and stood up the way people thought it would by now, especially out of the doomsdayers. Communism is a failed political and economic philosophy. And ultimately, I do not believe the doomsdayers that say that China is going to eat our lunch. Right. Eventually, I think you're right.

In the short term, I'm wondering if you are. But I'm just looking at, they've taken out. Any free market principles that would allow an Alibaba to start up again. They seem to be seeing success and trying to nationalize that success. And if these are smart people, and I imagine they are, don't they see that the model of pure communism will not be successful long term?

Don't they see that that personal initiative is key? No, it's not about smarts, by the way. It i I know what you're saying, but I think it i we underestimate evil.

Okay, I mean communism is an evil philosophy. And what they did in a more modernized sense of communism after Deng Kaiping was say we think we can have some economic liberty and still have political and civic tyranny. And and Milton Friedman always taught us that economic liberty is a necessary but not sufficient condition for a free society.

So what China's running into is a tension. They didn't have the Soviet Union. They had no economic or political liberty. China's tried to have a little bit and it's been better, right? They've gotten Much better GDP growth than a Soviet Union did.

But can they really be a superpower that's sustainable without full political, civil, by the way, religious liberty too? A country needs to have capital that comes and goes. It needs to have people freely worshiping as well. And they don't have that. Right.

Or a set of morals and standards, no matter how you get them. Listen, David Bonson, a couple more minutes when we come back. We are tracking what's going on with these hearings around the country. And of course, in Washington, the weaponization of government, a little bit scary. Don't move.

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We've got a couple more minutes here with David Bonson, founder, managing partner, and chief investment officer with the Bonson Group. David, if you're the president of the United States, what are you saying to Japan who wants to double the defense budget? What are you saying to South Korea? What are you saying to the G7? We know this at France just try to do something.

I raised the retirement age by two years. Massive riots. Are people in the West looking to give up some of the structure for growth? Oh, they've already given it up. I mean, of course they are.

And that's the whole problem we've been facing for 30 years, is we face what Japan has been dealing with, 30 years of no growth. They do need to double their defense spending, unfortunately. I think that means doubling it from $20 to $40. But Japan has been totally underinvested in their own defense.

South Korea, they need to take this stuff more seriously. But then when you refer to the cultural issue that's plagued Western Europe, it's been going on a long time, and it's almost comical. That there would be this uproar over people working two more years in France. My concern as an American is us adopting that mentality. And in fairness to America, we haven't had it for the most part.

2 almost 50 years, there's been a real entrepreneurial, industrious DNA that's made us the economic envy of the world. And post-Industrial Revolution, Europe was exploding, Asia was exploding, UK was doing great, and we were doing great, but we were doing greater than everyone else because the Industrial Revolution came to everybody, but it came to us with entrepreneurialism, with grit, with a certain work ethic. That's been lacking in Europe for a long time. My concern is those types of things coming here.

Well, I want you to hear Robert Leidhiser talk about this. Let's listen to what he thinks China and what we're up against. I believe that China is the most dangerous threat that we face as a nation. Indeed, It may be the most perilous adversary. we have ever had.

China believes that it is destined to be the world's only superpower. Your reaction?

Well, I think that they are the most dangerous threat geopolitically, globally, right now. I don't know about ever had. The Soviet Union Cold War was pretty sizable. But yes, I think that one of the problems is that we don't take it seriously enough. Right.

Dave, thanks so much. Best of luck, and let's hope the president does well at the G7. My fingers across, my hopes are down. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian In Kill Mead.

All right, everyone, welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kill Meet Show. Zona Garg will be with us, one of the hottest comedians in the country, bottom of the hour. Getting set to host One Nation. Don't forget Saturdays at 8 o'clock. It'll be great.

Meanwhile, I'll be able to take a lot of your calls. I've seen them up there, have so many great guests, also riding some live news because the weaponization of government hearings are taking place.

So let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. I believe we can if we come to a good agreement because think of this. The president said he wasn't going to negotiate, we were just going to raise the debt ceiling. First of all, we have just now been able to have a victory.

The president could no longer say that. All right, that is Kevin McCarthy. He's on a bit of a roll. Loss of leverage for Joe as the burst of optimism about a debt ceiling deal rises, and Kevin McCarthy continues to keep the right tight. Number two.

I believe that China is the most dangerous threat that we face as a nation. Indeed, It may be the most perilous adversary. we have ever had. That is Robert Leidhiser, respected by everybody, U. S.

versus China. President Biden tries to keep allies together at the G seven meeting and is fixated on China as he talks in Japan. Finally, Silicon Valley Dems and the GOP are on the same page, but will they sign off on the same plan? Will the President truly be on board? Number one.

It's not just going after presidential candidates, presidential campaigns. Today it's the American people. If you're a parent attending a school board meeting, you're a pro-lifer praying at a clinic, or you're a Catholic simply going to Mass, you are a target of the government, target of the FBI. That is. Jim Jordan.

Weaponization of government in action and denial of Durham conclusion is in full stride as Dems attempt to deny, confuse and intimidate those who have not read the report, intimidate whistleblowers and want to report the corruption on the highest level of the FBI. Oh, some wild scenes. Democrats never fail to disappoint. Do not ask questions of the four whistleblowers with these dynamic records of being special agents with the FBI who came forward and to a man, they were all men, had their lives destroyed, their security clearances denied, their weapons licenses revoked. They can't get other jobs because they did the right thing.

And Christopher Wray assured everyone this would not be a problem, and it absolutely is. And instead of the Democrats saying this is outrageous, they come out and they're trying to use meticulous procedural complaints to slow everything down. And it's not going to work. Here's Jim Jordan outlining what was going to happen last night on what Laura Ingram cut for. We know from the Durham report that these agencies have been weaponized and they'll go after a presidential candidate.

But it's worse today because they will target the people. A parent at a school board meeting, a pro-life for praying at a clinic, a Catholic attending Mass. They will target people. And if you're brave like Mr. O'Boyle and you come forward and tell the truth, then they will try to crush you.

They will retaliate against you just like they did to Garrett O'Boyle, a guy who served our country and is now with 250 days without getting paid because they took his clearance from him. And that's the last two, those two guys, or two of the four that are testifying today. I just don't understand why it's partisan. You know, I don't, you know, you want to look at his background. You want to get the FBI's point of view on it.

They have information directors.

Okay. Go ahead. Because if they have good answers, and they do, This will be something that should outrage them. But they don't want to be on the committee. They don't think there's necessary for a committee.

And the whole time they are. Gone, Jim Jordan to Make things available that aren't available. I'll give an example. O'Grady came out and he said, I don't really trust. Excuse me, Marcus Allen.

Marcus Allen goes, I don't really trust the Democrats with my testimony. I don't really want to submit to questioning. I've been through enough with the FBI. Whistleblowers don't have to.

So they kept on saying, I'm looking at a clause one A, B, C, E that says you have to and they're going back and forth. This is wasting their time and delaying the whole process. They know whistleblowers don't have to talk to both sides. You have your chance to question ahead of time. And if he changes his mind, that's he changes his mind.

Whistleblower is supposed to have some rights, don't you think? Maybe Edward Snowden saying, I told you so. That's why I defected to Russia. I'm not going to defend him. But that was his point.

So if you look at what happened. You have that IRS agent step up and say, I've been trying to get this Hunter Biden situation to move forward. It's clearly political. I'm going to be a whistleblower. You know what they did?

They decided to disband the whole IRS investigative unit. Really? You that if that isn't retaliation, I don't know what is retaliation.

So you don't like that somebody needs four years to investigate one guy whose whole life is on a computer and then they decide to just disband the whole thing? And then they knock on Matt Taibbi's door because he decided to testify what was in the Twitter files because Elon Musk invited him to. And the IRS knocks on his door and said, Yeah, I got a problem suddenly with a couple of years ago what you filed. Really? You don't mind that the public knows that you're trying to intimidate people in full view?

Can you imagine if you don't have power, political stay? Money to get a lawyer? The message is sent. You speak up? We'll get a lash out.

Cut ten. It's not just going after presidential candidates, presidential campaigns. Today it's the American people. If you're a parent attending a school board meeting, you're a pro-lifer praying at a clinic, or you're a Catholic simply going to Mass, you are a target of the government, target of the FBI. And maybe even worse than all that, if you're one of the thousands of good employees.

Brave whistleblowers is willing to come forward. If you're one of these folks willing to come forward and talk about what's going on out there, you get attacked. They will try to crush you. It's unbelievable. And I wi I wish I was exaggerating.

Uh I'm not. We're going to get the latest from the G7. We're going to go out be able to go out to Japan and find out what's happening there. We'll be able to do that shortly. Jackie Heinrich's going to be with us.

But in the meantime, that's what's going on here. The other thing with the debt ceiling, when I talk about loss of leverage, it's not political gainsmanship, it's a fact.

So Joe Biden began to lose leverage when he told the House to go past something that would be a criteria for what I would need to raise the debt ceiling.

Some of the things. Were go back to 2022 spending, put a work requirement when it comes to welfare. And repurpose the pandemic money that is just sitting and is not needed in these states and will be used for wrong things unless you do it.

So go claw it back. All right.

Fine. They ignored it, they tried to sensationalize it, they lied about it. And then They realize That Joe Biden, they checked the calendar, is going to Japan to the G7 to reassure our allies and our enemies that we're all one speaking from the same hymn sheet, willing to take on China economically and militarily. And you can't do that if you can't pay your bills or under a deadlock when it comes to the budget because it affects everybody's economy.

So if you show up at the G7 in Japan and want to talk about China, missile systems, Tomahawk sales, they're not going to do it. Repurposing, onshoring, manufacturing, they're not going to do it. They're going to go, excuse me, are you paying your debt? Is the number one economy in the world going to fail?

So now Joe Biden's got to talk and actually deal with Republicans and talk optimistically. The markets love it because they know he is hemmed in. With the debt ceiling. And I think it's great for the country, but he should never have waited to this last minute. Is there anybody in that organization, in that White House, that can look at a calendar?

Here's what Josh Kreishauer said of Axios. He was on last night with. Uh with Brett. And he's saying that he's going to start looking past the left, cut 24. I mean, this is someone who is already thinking about where the politics are on spending.

You look at the polling, and it's clear that Republicans do have advantages on a lot of these very issues, especially when it comes to concerns about government spending.

So this is classic triangulation, where Biden is, if it does go through, if there is a compromise reached, he wants to get some political credit, even though the Republicans have had the political sweet spot throughout the last few months.

So there you go. And Josh Kreishauer pretty much rides it down the middle. I don't remember a time. When John Boehner had leverage, where Paul Ryan, you know, because he had friction with the president, Trump at the time, too. Really felt, and he's had friction with Obama, but I really felt like the Republicans had leverage.

I really think they earned it this time. And then they pass a border bill. They go, well, Congress isn't acting. And then the Republicans turn around and pass a really tough border bill.

Okay, there you go. And then a crime bill. There you go. Game on. I think it's got them on their heels.

Very fascinating to see that. Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries both voluntarily backed out of negotiations. They said, listen, this is between the speaker and the president. There was just a report with some lawmakers, Democratic lawmakers, who said the president better not be negotiating to raise the debt ceiling. I got news for you, he's negotiating.

Eric Lucon W DBO, hey Eric. Hey, Brian, great show today. Um a lot of your guests have mentioned the uh the culpability of the media. And maybe you can shed a little. A lot of my friends and I, we want to know what's in it for them.

Like every every communist takeover of a country, the first thing they do, whether it's Stalin or Mao or Pol Pot, they get rid of the media and uh The big new Brzezinski predicted his own daughter and Joe Scarborough. Like, what's your take on all of this media compliancy? I can't make heads of tails of the media. I'm watching their coverage of the Durham Report, the investigations on Trump, the lack of investigations on Biden, pretending as if he's actually on his game, pretending that Senator Fetterman isn't a total joke. Feel bad about it, but he's totally ineffective.

Nobody's reporting on the fact he can't put a sentence together, or that Senator Feinstein is out of her mind. She has Alzheimer's. I don't understand what's going on. I'm trying to be kind, but for. I'm asking, they're asking you, the viewer, the listener, to pretend as if the media is.

One stop shopping to the truth, and it's not. And I'm astounded about what they're not reporting. I mean, to think yesterday that they would have the number one story be that the President was told by the archives the true rules on what's sensitive and not, that was the story on another network. All right, we come back. I want to get the latest on what's at stake, Jackie Heinrich, what the fallout is, that the president will be leaving early from the G7.

This is the Brian Kilmey Show. Diving deep into today's top stories, it's Brian Kilmead. Yeah. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead.

I believe we can if we come to a good agreement because think of this. The President said he wasn't going to negotiate. We were just going to raise the debt ceiling. First of all, we have just now been able to have a victory. The President could no longer say that.

So no, the debt ceiling will not get raised with no changes.

That's true. And he has leverage right now. I don't think he even had it as much when this first package passed from the House. I think that suddenly, in my humble opinion, President Biden looked up and said, I'm going to the G7. All these countries are nervous we're going to default or be in a prolonged deadlock.

I better reassure the world markets. Leverage loss, in my opinion. Jackie Heinrich joins me now. Hey, Jackie. Hey, Brian.

Good to be with you.

So, you got the short story or long story? You're not in Japan. Depends on how you look at it, but I'm here. Right. So when the president left.

When they realized that the G7 looming was not going to work for him and it wasn't just about scheduling. You know, I think. I think that there is just a couple things at play here. I think the Treasury Secretary's last letter, because remember she sent one on May 1st, which said you've got, you know, June 1st is the deadline, soft deadline, and maybe the weeks after. Her May 15th letter said it could be days or weeks after.

So administration officials pointed out to me that that is a shift in sort of the language she's using that is geared toward pushing this along because when you're getting the Federal and state income tax receipts. This is a moving deadline, but whatever they received gave them concern that, you know, we got to get this done in very short order. And I think that that added additional pressure. And I also think that just the optics were going to be very bad to have the president out of the country for eight of the 16 days left at that time before the deadline would be approaching.

So you got to go to the G7 to hammer out the priorities of Ukraine funding and certainly countering China's economic influence and all of those priorities there are not going to, you know, can't push off the other six G7 countries and say, hey, we'll do this another time. But he had to sort of balance both things.

So I think he tried to make the best of it by shortening his trip and doing the quad summit on the sidelines of the G7. The Papua New Guinea part, where he was going to be making this historic trip, that's actually a really big loss. And I don't think. People have paid enough attention to that because we had a budding agreement, a security agreement that would allow the U.S. military access to that area that was very important during World War II in exchange for huge investments in infrastructure to counter what China is doing there and their Belt and Road initiative.

That's not moving forward right now. And I think that we might see some regret over that at some point. It's going to be tough to get that rescheduled. See, that is lightly reported. We have not heard a lot about that.

But I do think that Kevin McCarthy, when Kevin McCarthy says he shouldn't be going at all, I think that's crazy because you have to go ahead and lead the world, especially with China watching every move and every step. They want to see that we're together as a G7 and world economies like Japan and South Korea right in the eye of the storm with Taiwan every day seems to be perilous.

So the president has got to get that back on the board. What I wonder, Jack, in the big picture, can anyone with all the experience they allegedly have in the White House look at the calendar and say, wait a second, if this debt ceiling thing drags on, This might not only loom over the G seven, it might embarrass the President as if we can't get our act together and might cause him not to go or amend the trip. Are you surprised they let it get to this point? Because there was no negotiating going on.

Well, I think that they're going to really be regretting, you know, wasting all of the time in the lead up to this because you handed Republicans a talking point, which was that, you know, McCarthy's had a bill passed for several weeks now. He's been asking to talk with the president about the budget for 97 days, he keeps saying.

So they really teed that up for Republicans in refusing to have any sort of talks. And now you're up against a hard deadline. They only just got the right people in the room to make it happen and punted Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries, and Mitch McConnell to the back seat. That was always how this was going to end, but I think they were reluctant to give McCarthy that win. And they waited too long.

So now it's going to be laying at the president's feet if this all fizzles. It's not going to be McCarthy who's blamed for a default, it's going to be the president. I hear you. Here's the Durham report and how it's resonating. Adam Schiff, who I think looks awful now that these revelations come out with three reports, said this, cut one.

This is an investigation that started in a flawed manner. It was conducted in a flawed manner. And its conclusion is a flawed conclusion. Really? Flawed conclusion that there was no conspiracy with the Trump administration and Vladimir Putin?

How's the Dorm report being received? They don't want to touch it. I mean, they are they ended the briefing the other day when they were asked about this. And Corrine, I think, gave three words and then walked out of the room. They're trying to stay as far away from that story as possible and really not engaging on it at all.

You know, I don't know that they have a good answer. I think that you had a lot of Democrats. I mean, remember, Adam Schiff was the one who was out here saying, we've got proof, we've got proof. And, you know, that's not good for anyone in the president's party, especially when they were sort of stoking the suspicion of, you know, who's tied to who, you know, all in the lead up to the election. You know, and then the president has his own issue with the 50 national security officials, you know, signing this letter saying the laptop's a fraud.

I think it's just, you know, sticky business for them to even comment on because they've got their own skeletons in their closet. No, I agree, but I just didn't think they agreed with that. I mean, to me, it's unbelievable what's taken place. And then it dates back to the previous administration when they got the briefing. But I'm sure you're all over that.

Jackie Heinrich, I owe you. Thanks so much. Thanks, Brian. You are now updated on Washington.

Next is Onergark. Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. But speaking of college, I have to tell you, I have uncovered the world's biggest scam. Did you guys know that in this country, the parents don't get to decide what the kid's gonna study?

You all knew this. I really thought when my kid goes to college, I will call the college up and I will say, Com sci one, comp sci two, go. She wants to have some fun. I understand that. Give her one class in chemistry.

It does not work that way. They're so rude, they'd hang up on me.

So I had to call my kid and ask her. I was like, What are you enrolled in? What are you studying? Are you guys ready for this? Ceramics.

Eighty thousand dollars to learn how to make clay pods? Do you know who else makes clay pods? Villagers in India, because they have nothing else to do. My kid is in Palo Alto, the epicenter of technology, making clay pods.

So that's Zarna Garg talking about a story that probably everybody at home can relate to because you do have a wide swath of courses to choose from, especially if you're looking to improve your GPA. Zarna is one of the most successful comedians in the country. Her comedy special, Zona Garg, one in a billion, premiered on Amazon Video. It just came out last week.

So go to actually this week, May 16th, go to Zonagarg.com for more information. And already you've got some good metrics coming out on this, Zarna, right? Yes, I. I did. Thank you so much for having me.

Great to see you again. It's so great to be here. And I understand we've talked to your people. You're going to appear this weekend on One Nation. You're back on Fox.

Yes. Yes. You wanted me, and here I am. Right, fantastic. And then you're going to just go on the road.

Look at how busy you are. Do you know this? May 18th to 20th, the New York Comedy Club in Stanford. You'll be at the Westside Comedy Club in New York City on the 22nd. Boston, Massachusetts, the 26th and 27th.

This is great for the WABC, WRCN listeners. Then over to Atlanta, Georgia, the 23rd and 25th of June, the Punchline Comedy. And then Halifax, Nova Scotia.

Now, you know that's not in America. Yes, I do know that's not in America. Right. And you're okay with Canada? I love Canada.

I was just there. I was just in Toronto. I had three sold-out theater shows this past weekend in Toronto. And you've only been doing stand-up for how long?

Well, I mean, I hesitate to use the word only. It's been five years. It's been a long time. No one has that type of timeline to have the type of success you've had.

Well, also, nobody has as many bills as I have to pay.

So the level of desperation is very high. How many kids do you have? Three. How many do you like? Uh mm mm.

Well, one for sure. My oldest son will always be my oldest son. You know what I mean? First. The girl, whatever.

She comes and goes. And the little one, we kind of hope he raises himself. Right. That's about it.

So, this college, where do you get your material? This college says, is that a real-life swath of a slice of your life? Yeah, everything. My entire set, one in a billion on Amazon Prime. It all is based in some truth, some reality.

And you know, if you have kids in college, I think everybody can relate. We're in a crisis. I think every parent who's sending a kid to college is stressed out just like me. I don't think I'm the only one. In what way?

You miss them? No. No, we were waiting for them to leave. Not that way. We've missed the money that's going with them.

Right. Eighty thousand, you said. I mean, that's how much these independent schools are. It's more. It's more.

Not like eighty is generous. It's more. Eighty is the sticker that they put in the book. You know, that's never the full story. And these kids, they go there and they don't know anything.

And then they're like, oh, you could do painting. You could do art. You could do read a book. Read a book while you're here. No.

You know what? I have to yell at my kids constantly. If you want to read a book, come back home. If you're going somewhere, like get the computer secrets, like figure out how you're going to be the prime minister, the president, something, because that's what I'm paying for. I'm not paying for anything else.

And well, it turns out you are, though. Because they're picking their courses. Yes, well, I'm trying. I mean, you know what I mean? You're born in India.

I'm born in India. Is there any way to give us an idea of the different cultures of the two countries? Like what would I fi point out? If I went to India, what would be the biggest thing that would shock me? What would be the big thing?

Like, for example, I don't think most kids who are academically inclined are thinking what will make me happy. That is not a thing. They don't think that is not a thing. Nobody is allowed to think that. And we personally, as a culture, don't really believe much in happiness.

It's not overrated. Overrated and simply unattainable. I mean, if you think of the great philosophers, you'll know there is no happiness. The more you know, the more miserable you are because you're like, this is the world we live in. But happy, like, for example, my husband and I, we grew up, it was like, you go to college, and what's going to get you a job?

How are you going to get a job? That is why you go to college. It's an objective. Yeah. We should approach it like a trade school.

That should be your objective the whole time. No, and look, you want to do something, you know. You want to be an artist or something? That's like a side thing in India.

Now, I'm not suggesting that nobody should do the arts. I pretty much think the Western kids should. Like white kids, they want to do arts, they should do arts. Like, take one for the team. This is your thing.

But my people don't appreciate it. Here is more from Zorna. This was 35. Zorna, I want to hear you talk about a lawyer's cut 34. My favorite judge, Judge Judy.

Because of her. I went to law school. But I found out after I became a lawyer that you have to be a good lawyer to be appointed. Yeah. And I was the worst.

I could never be new. I would take my own client to the judge and be like your honour My client has robbed the liquor store. Oh sh no, my client has not robbed the liquor. The liquor store. Even the judge was like, Mrs.

Garth, do you know what a defense attorney does? And I But never keep a poker face. I I would be like, but you and I both know he did it. And that was a problem? It was a problem.

You know, you don't. Know how you will be at a job until you finish the schooling and the whole thing. And then, if, like me, you wake up one day and you're like, This is actually not what I thought it was gonna be, and I'm not good at it, right? Like, you're stuck. See, in a way, this is me not having gone to law school.

I thought at some point in law school, you would have come up with that conclusion. Why didn't you get it along the way? No, not at all. I was good in law school, like I had fun. Oh, you're thinking like a lawyer.

It was like so scholarly and all the other words they like to use. But when you get out into the business, all you're doing is filling paper. 99% of what lawyers do is filling a paper, another paper, a third paper, a fourth paper. You don't even really go to court much unless it's a very specific type of law.

So all those TV shows that, you know, about the legal law. That makes it seem exciting. Yeah, that's like 5% of all lawyers out there. Right. So it was a big revelation.

I was like, I'm not sure this is my calling.

Well, I'll tell you this. The other thing is that people say with a sense of humor, do you see things that are going on in the courtroom before you started being a stand-up comedian and thought, this is, I have to say, were you funny in the courtroom? Did you see these opportunities? Brian, I kid you not. I used to write so many notices of motions and like all these.

These legal documents and then send them to the opposing side. And I would get emails back and calls. Like, it was so funny. Your document was so funny. I was like, I'm trying to sue you.

Did you read the part where I said I'm going to take all your money? I'm going to garnish your wages. They're like, yeah, but before that, we laughed out loud. That's great.

Now, you do talk about Ted Cruz. Yes. Shall we hear it? Yeah, sure, if you're thirty three. Yeah, but for the rest of us, the brownies, really hard.

It's hard to come here. The visa, the paperwork, years of waiting. And you get here and you find out that everybody hates everybody. The Democrats hate the Republicans, the Republicans hate the Democrats, pro-choice, pro-life, pro-gun, MacBook pro. By the time I got my green card, I was like, I'm not so sure about this The only thing everybody seems to agree on is that everybody hates Ted Cruz.

Yeah. He does well, he's he's very he's easy to dislike because he's always in the press. Know, I get that. But you know, you want to know something funny? I had a lot of sold-out shows in Texas, and that joke killed in Texas.

I did it as a test the first show. I was like, let me see how this goes. And I had a few backups prepared, like to replace Ted Cruz. And the joke killed. I was like, oh my God.

I think everybody kind of sort of has strong feelings about him. Even if the people who vote for him are like, see, I'm so involved in it. Obviously, Ted Cruz is always in the news. Are people outside my world know who he is? Clearly, yeah.

It killed in Canada. It killed in Canada. That's where Trump said he was from. He's that's what I heard he's from. And it killed in Canada.

I was nervous in Canada too. And it's not I personally have nothing against it. I don't even know much about him and what he does beyond the the headlines, which I'm I'm okay to admit. I feel like a lot of people don't want to admit that they don't know much. Right.

But I've learned to just admit it. But even when you're a supporter of his, there's something about him that seems too great. And he's going to go for it. He's up for reelection. He's not going to run for president.

Does it astound you? Where does Trump fall in your act? Because he's the most famous person in the world. Right. By four.

And everyone's got an opinion. No one says, I haven't made my mind up. Yeah. So how do you handle that? Not anymore.

I think when he first ran. there were people who were like, maybe he's got something. He is the change. Maybe he is the change back the the first time he ran. At this point, you're either on his side or you're not.

Right? And I can't be on his side for all kinds of reasons that we all may choose to agree or disagree on. I do think that he had something all along and he was trying to make sense. He was, I believe that. But somewhere along the way, him with his bombastic, you know, attitude and and just Fell off the like a lot of good things fell off the deep end.

Right. In life, there's so many good things, but then you push that good thing to the edge, and now it's not making sense. You know, it's crazy. You're you're originally from where in India? From Mumbai.

From Mumbai. So I know where the president appeared with Modi. Yeah. The crowd he got, the reception he received. How do you explain?

He's very popular India today. Indian people are not against Trump. They're not against Trump. Why is that? Because a lot of what.

The Republicans and the conservatives and Trump stands for we understand and believe it, a lot of it. And then, A lot that has happened since his first election has been like, okay, okay, even if we believe we don't necessarily agree with how you're doing this and what you're saying. And, you know, so I think he started with a lot of optimism among the Indian people. Yeah. And then it kind of got really muddy.

Right. At least for me. No, it's serious. But it's also paralleling what we have in India. Modi has haters.

He does, yeah. They're serious haters. And he has his followers that will support him no matter what he does. But didn't some people not like Gandhi? Of course.

And there are people today. There's a whole theory out there that Gandhi was actually a Pakistani sympathizer. Like, there's all kinds of things. Allison, have you been saying that? Yeah.

You've been saying that. I'm so sick of that. There's the other thing you can understand, too, because you're involved with all these Hollywood guys you mentioned, that people you're talking with and have your special out. But I also thought it was interesting that people are always concerned about being canceled, especially New York. When Dave Chappelle, the top comedian in the country, they spend all the time trying to cancel him.

Yeah. And he refuses to be canceled. I love it. And guess who? John Cleese, Another Legend?

Yes. Here's what he said about being canceled. I don't get canceled because I do stage shows. And the lovely thing about doing stage shows is that people think to themselves, I like him, so I'll buy a ticket. The audience is pre-selected to like me.

So he's saying you can't cancel me as long as I can sell out a theater. I got the theater. Do you feel the same way? Uh I feel I feel not that you're politically incorrect anyway. No, but I I can like I'm sure there are you know any number of uh opinions about me and my work and it's fine.

Yes, the stage shows are your direct connect with the audience. But in my case, I'm also a digital creator. I have a whole digital life.

So People can choose to like me or not, but m the people who do uh understand and appreciate what I do have a direct m way to communicate.

So I'm not dependent on the gatekeepers and on the tastemakers to spin my words this way or that way. You know?

So between the stage shows and my direct uh my digital life, I feel like I am. You are your own business. I am my own business, absolutely. Right, you're not waiting for the phone to ring. No.

Never. You fire up the iPhone. I put it on airplane mode. I know when somebody wants me, they're going to find me. Understand.

Zona's going to be here for a little while longer. Keep in mind, her special is now out. It's called Zona Gorg, one in a billion. It premiered on Amazon video on May 16th.

So go download it. Already on your analytics, you love this: that people are not only watching your promo, they're watching the whole thing. Yes. And that means usually a click-through. Yes.

Completion rate is very important in streaming services because you in this business is brutal. You get three seconds. If people watch past three seconds, that's a metric. People watch past 15 seconds, that's another metric. People watch it to completion, that's a sign that they're connecting with you.

Right. Like, I'll give you an example. They stop listening to me because they're like, that's why they're behind the glass. They're tired of me.

So I walk in, I don't even get three seconds. Yeah. So you are lucky. Back in a moment. More from Zona.

And then she's going to preview her appearance on One Nation Saturday on Fox News. Mm-hmm. Want even more, Brian? Download the podcast at BrianKillMeatShow.com. Every episode, exclusive interviews on demand.

More of Kill Me coming up. Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Show. Guns are a problem in America, right? I get asked if guns are legal in India.

Yeah, they're legal, but they're not really dangerous. But the whole country has fifteen bullets, which the police has to share. I mean, there's something to be said for living in an impoverished nation. I mean, who can Think of a man shooting when the house is floating away. in the monsoon and here you always find out that But the people who commit these atrocities, they were a loner.

They were lonely. They were alone. But what Indian has ever Twelve people share one hut, then you fall. out that the shooter had mental health issues. Mental health?

There's no mental issues. Health back home. We still have cholera. That's fantastic. And people love it.

Zana Gorg is here. And by the way, it's when people want to follow you on social media. And it's at Zarna Garg on Twitter. Is it the same thing on Instagram? Everywhere.

On everywhere. Over the big platforms. Yes. Okay. Yes.

How does this go over? With your audience. Indian people get insulted by this, by the fun you're having. Does anyone have come to you and go, hey, don't diminish our country? Because to me, it's hysterical.

I don't. Think so. They know that I'm coming from a place of love. And it's the joke, this particular joke that you just played, it's also poking on both directions. It's not just India, it's America too.

You know, it's like here there's guns, there's bullets, like they shower bullets. When you see these war images, the amount of things that are showered, like, you know, the bullets, the missiles, and stuff. No other country can afford to do anything like that. Like, if we had those amounts of bullets and guns and missiles, they would be in a museum. People would be taking photos with them.

It would be like, can we do this any other way? Can we kill these people any other way? We should drop donuts on them. That's what's going to kill them.

So, in India, have you been back since you got famous? I don't I'm not famous for so India's a big country. And success. Yeah, I've been back the few. To do stage?

No. Oh, that's what I mean. I would love to see. No. Would you have to write new material back in India?

I would have to edit my set a little bit just for because right now it's very much I'm an immigrant in America.

So I would have to edit the beginning and some of it, but a lot of it they will love the way it is because they're very exposed to American pop culture. This is a country that's fully exposed. They understand if they're watching Friends and Seinfeld in India as if they are New Yorkers. You got to know Amy Pohl or Tina Faye? Yes.

What's that like? Amazing. I mean, they're the OGs, and they were so incredibly warm and welcoming. I couldn't believe it. Like, I couldn't believe that I was there and I had the honor of opening their first few shows.

Fantastic. It's been amazing. Check her out in Stanford, Connecticut, in New York City at the Westside Comedy Club, in Boston, at Laugh, Boston, as Punchline Comedy in Atlanta, Georgia, and Halifax, Nova Scotia at the Halifax Citadel Garrison Grounds. At Zarnagarg. Thanks, Zarna.

Thank you. Thank you, Brian. Listen to the show ad-free on Fox News Podcast Plus, on Apple Podcast, Amazon Music with your Prime Membership, or subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Mm.