21 year old Air National Guardsman arrested, charged in Pentagon leaks

From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian. In Kill Mead. Hi, everyone. Welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kilmeet Show, 1866-408-7669.

So glad you're here. General Keith Kellogg, also here, the Lieutenant General, Fox News contributor. He's a member of the The Trump administration will be joining us to put in perspective the magnitude of these leaks. Bottom of the hour, Pete Hagsep will be here in studio. It's time in Afghanistan.

We have a lot to discuss in terms of security clearance and everything else.

So, meanwhile, the President of the United States is wasting more time on his family vacation. He's delivering marks at a church, and then he's going to go to some small town where he might have a relative. Unbelievable that he's president of the United States and has been lost in Ireland for four days. Let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. Here's the. Reality, I mean, she, I have a lot of respect for Senator Feinstein. She's unable to fulfill her duties.

And I guess I don't know any other job where if you're unable to fulfill your duties, you can continue to have the position. Right, Ro Kahana weighing in, fellow Democrat, call it quits. Is it time for Senator Feinstein, Mitch McConnell, Joe Biden, just to bow out? There's pressure everywhere for them to do just that. Number two.

But I think come 2024, our party is going to choose the right standard bearer to meet this moment to strengthen America at home and abroad. Mike Pence, short time ago. Pulling away, despite his unrelenting legal challenges, Donald Trump leads a growing list of Republicans in the primary. Are the big guns like DeSantis, Pence, Pompeo, Sununu waiting too long to get in? Is it already too late?

We'll examine. Number Today the Justice Department arrested Jack Douglas Teixeira, in connection with an investigation into alleged unauthorized removal, retention, and transmission of classified national defense information. That's the electrifying Merrick Garland. Unexplainable, but I will try. How a 21-year-old National Guardsman can gain and leak the most highly classified intel possibly our country has to withhold.

A reputation globally has suffered again. Will Jack Teixeira actually get the life in prison he deserves? We're going to look at the fallout. And what led to his arrest.

So Let's bring in Lieutenant General Kellogg. Lieutenant General, what we know right now is this guy, this National Guardsman located in Camp Cod, Otis Military Base, formed a chat room, Thug Shaker Central. Decides to show off by displaying and revealing all this intelligence information and told the 20 guys: keep this to yourselves. And believe it or not, General, they didn't. Are you surprised by all of this?

Yeah, Brian. First of all, Brian, thanks for having me. Look, it's really not understandable. I mean, I'm just, you know, I think, like most of us out there, we're just stunned by it. And I think there's a lot of things that they have to look at it initially, what actually happened.

One, there's a real access control issue. There's too many clearances. When you have 5,000 people like him who had access to top secret documents like that and were able to extract that information and send it out over in a chat room, it is stunning to me. And part of that, I actually believe, Brian, we've got a cultural issue that this is okay. It's okay to do stuff like it.

No, it's not. But it's compounded by a President who said when he was asked a question just yesterday about the leaks, he said, Well, there was nothing of consequence.

Well, th that's insane. Of course, there were things of a conse of consequence because it was damage to sources and methods and also as well as our adversaries. to change the way they operate. And this guy needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent possible. And we have to ensure people recognize that that kind of behavior is absolutely unacceptable.

It creates enormous distrust. among our allies. And basically, they're saying like the same thing you're saying and I'm saying, who's really in charge? And I don't think anybody's in charge for this to happen. It's just stunning that this got away from us.

And they need to sit down and really have and I don't mean they mean the the administration because I don't think they can police themselves. This is something they need to turn, and I don't even mean the FBI. This is something that Congress needs to investigate and say, How did this happen? and bring everybody in there to include the intelligence agencies and the administration. and put them on record and say, how did this happen?

How do we solve it? How does it make sure it doesn't happen again? Because my concern is with their attitude right now, it's going to happen again. No kidding. That uh Manning I guess Chelsea Manning, it's hard to know when she stole the balance, if she was a man when she stole the documents and a woman when she paid the price.

But she was pardoned by President Obama and was ungrateful about it. Edward Snowden's living a good life over in Russia. He feels like he's a hero.

So what's the big deal? This person says, I didn't intend, I'm a patriot. I just wanted to show off all my friends, it seems.

So this guy's this guy's title. I I find it a little bizarre. He's a cyber transport systems journeyman. He needed a higher clearance because he was responsible for network protections. And he did have the lowest Air Force rank of enlisting groups.

So he was maintenancing the communication channel, so he needed to know what came through it. Yeah, you know, Brian, part of the problem you're running into is when they do these clearances, and this is what I'm talking about: access control. the amount of clearances. Most of these clearances now are granted be by civilian contractors of corporations that go out and actually do this access control and who should be allowed to have it. And they don't do a great job.

I actually was at the company years ago that had one of their units do this. You know, when I was vetted, um when you're in the White House, you're vetted by the FBI. They do a when they do a background check on you, they really do it. But so we're letting a lot of people through the gaps out there, just let them through. And that's what I'm talking about, having too many people and how you cure that partially.

is you put guys like this in the supermax. You know, you just basically say, if you do something like this, we are going to put you away for the rest of your lives, period. And you actually have to put fear into people, but they also we have to have changed the attitude like the president is nothing of consequence. We have to make sure people understand The damage they're causing out there because most of these. young men or women who are this young don't understand the consequences of their actions.

what's happening overseas. And our adversaries are just looking at jobs. And they've he's embarr you you know, they've embarrassed the United States on multiple fronts.

So this is one of those, Biab, you're right. It's a long term fix meaning long term meaning I don't mean ten years, five years, but it's like a year, year and a half to get to get this thing fixed. But they've got to do a complete review of this. And basically maybe they need to start just withdrawing clearances en masse. Just say we don't need 5,000.

We're going to withdraw. you know, four thousand five hundred of these right now and just pull the cl clearances away from everybody.

So General, we got issues on the state of the war, casualties. Before they changed it, the Russians had about 200,000 casualties, many dead. The Ukrainians slightly less. They do need more missile defense rockets in order to shoot these things out of the sky. They've really suffered a lot of their infrastructure damage, and they expect a spring surge on the Ukrainian side, but we gave away the battle plan, so they've got to change it somewhat.

What is the state of the war? What are they telling us, or what do you think it is? Yeah, you know, Brian, that's a great question. Because I've said this repeatedly. Look, we've given them.

Kind of lip service. I mean, we've given them a lot of kit, but we haven't given them everything they need. But let me just give one example.

Okay, we're beating our chest and saying, oh, this is really good. We gave them 31 Abrams tanks. That's battalion. They need brigades of tanks to do this. You know, the Germans gave them the leopards of a battalion's worth and the Brits of Battalion's worth as well.

And here's how they can fix this really quickly. And I've said this, by the way, in Senate testimony. I said there's an there's a pre-positioned stock in Germany called APS2, Armory Preposition Stock II. And it's got brigade sets of equipment. It was there designed to defeat the Soviets and the Russian army.

And that so the American troops can fall in and give it to the Ukrainians. Yeah, just give it to the Ukrainians. Just say, look, this stuff is sitting in Germany, it's been maintained. Just turn it over to the Ukrainians, give them this full kit so they can fight the Russians. But what they're doing right now by not giving them the equipment they need, You're going into a long-range stalemate of an endless war, and this is not going to win well for the Ukrainians or us.

And the only way that Putin understands strength, and the only way you're going to get Putin's attention. If you can help the Ukrainians defeat his army in the field in Ukraine, and then Biden picks up the phone, which he has not done, Brian, and he tells Putin very clearly: look, you've got two options. You're either going to lose your army in the field. Are you going to take it home to Russia? One of the two, that's your choice.

You get to make it. But by not doing that, in all the money we've given them, which is 75% of the money and equipment comes out of the United States, all we're doing is going into an endless war that's going to end up in a stalemate with a lot of people dying. And people are dying over there. You know, when I was over in Ukraine a couple of months ago, they were very clear on what they've lost. They've lost about their Ukrainians, about 100,000 Ukrainian soldiers killed.

And they believe 150 to 200,000 Russian soldiers killed. And cities are being destroyed. When you look at Mariupol and other cities, And you look at the population that's being moved. One-third of the population has now left the country of Ukraine, is sitting in Poland or Hungary or Czechoslovakia. This is something that this is a fault of our own, because this administration has not come up with a plan, and they have not told the American people what the plan is.

How does this war end? How do we get there? And why does it matter? And why does it matter? And if you do lose, and if we do lose, and NATO does lose, the PR and the land mass and the money we're going to have to spend to fortify NATO because it's going to take a few years to recalibrate and they're going to look to expand again will be unquantifiable.

You need a leader and leaders explaining this on a regular basis and not painting Ukraine as this awful country and Russia as being mischaracterized, which so many people are doing.

So many people in America think the Russians are the good guys. And to me, I find that very concerning. Lastly, what's happening now with China and the development of their hypersonic missiles, which will go even further than we thought, which is going to push our aircraft carriers even further, that's been exposed now. Where are we at in planning to possibly fight China? Are you convinced we're ready?

No, I'm not, Brian. And you bring up a good point because I know economically doing things, diplomatically, China's doing things. But militarily, when you look what they're doing, they're building up their ICBM fleet, which is pretty good. Oh, by the way, they flew a balloon over the United States, which extracted an enormous amount of information and sent it back to China. But when you look at the defenses they're doing, they're building the third aircraft carrier.

That means The only nation that's got more active aircraft carriers in the world is the United States. And they're doing that so they can fortify the Western Pacific out there. When you talk about their hypersonic missiles, the DF17 and the DF-19 missiles, these are missiles that go between 1,000 and 1,600 miles. They travel at Mach 7, figure two miles a second, and we have no defenses.

So they're pushing us out of the Western Pacific. They know exactly what they're doing. And we just sit there and kind of say, well, we've got at least one carrier up there in Japan as part of the 7th Fleet. You need to figure out how we're going to, you know, how are we going to combat China? In the end of World War II, we had the Truman Doctrine, which was containment of the Soviet Union.

I challenge people, tell me what our policy, our plan is to address China. Nobody can tell me that. Why? Because we don't have one. And we need to address that not only militarily, but economically and diplomatically.

Look what just happened in our hemisphere with Honduras, who just basically decided not to recognize Taiwan. anymore. That means Taiwan's down to 13 nations. that recognized them as an independent country. this is they're just moving people nations away from us.

They're isolating Taiwan, both military, economically and diplomatically. And I don't think we're ready to handle this primarily because the leadership isn't paying attention to it. It's a zombie presidency, General. Whatever you want to say about Trump, everybody knew who was in charge, right? You knew exactly he'll take questions all day long.

We have a president in a country that's not I I'm Irish, it's a non-consequential country for what's going on right now, taking a four-day what seems to be a family holiday, refusing to take questions from the press, address even have an emergency meeting. He seems totally out of it. And anybody looking might say, this is the chance to take on America, and I'm getting that sense right now. It's very frustrating. General Kellbog, thanks so much.

Thanks, Brian. Thanks for having me today. You got it. 1-866-408-7669. What do you think about the leaker?

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Get it now on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, and FoxNewsPodcasts.com. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Kilmead. It's early in this process. I do think we'll have better choices.

I think nobody could have defeated Hillary Clinton in 2016 other than Donald Trump. But I think come 2024, our party's going to choose the right standard bearer to meet this moment to strengthen America at home and abroad. But I just trust Republican primary voters. I trust the American people to choose the right leadership for America. They've done it again and again.

I'm confident we'll do it again in 2024. And Mike Pence is making it clear he's going to run. He's probably going to get in in June, they say. But a lot of people are looking at the lead that Donald Trump has, the momentum he has, believe it or not, after his indictment and saying he might be too tough to beat. Is that true?

Or is it too early? A lot of people weighing in that Ron DeSantis, he's got some big donors buying him lots of money. Two major super PACs, run by Ken Cuccinelli, and they're saying, hey, you're just taking hits from Donald Trump, who rolled out another anti-DeSantis ads. He is ignoring. The rest of the field.

But yesterday, Ron DeSantis signed a bill that was given to him from the supermajority. Republican House in Florida that would drop the abortion ban to six weeks.

Now, that's pro-lifers, love it. But independents and undecided don't Will that be trouble? Here is here is um What they're saying, the Florida governor came out and said about the six-week ban that he thinks it's a good move. They also have exceptions for rape and incest, which I think is necessary. He tweeted this out there, Ron DeSantis.

I signed the Heartbeat Protection Bill, which expands the pro-life protections and devotes resources to help young mothers and families. But Ron DeSantis has lost.

Some nominat uh some fellow lawmakers that he used to work with. In Florida, And the biggest one, Anna Paulina, Matt Gates, not a surprise. Corey Mills, a veteran you thought might side with Ron DeSantis, but didn't. Byron Donalds was a big surprise. They say the DeSantis team reached out to the six of the Florida lawmakers and asked them to wait.

So clearly He's running. But is he waiting? Too long. Here's Mike Pence, cut twenty. I think there is the need for some kind of threshold that says we're going to limit access to abortions for no more than X number of weeks.

Because we continue to see the rise of the far radical left wanting abortions up until the the day of birth. And so we cannot be a country aligned with North Korea and China when it comes to what we hope to be a culture of life. Unfortunately, when we hear the left talk about this issue, it's not a culture of life. 20 weeks is what you would agree to?

Well, man, at least 20 weeks. I mean, there's no question that I think the 15 weeks has a lot of reasons for us to understand that divide, though that you Yes.

So that was Tim Scott. He's has the exploratory committee. He's probably two weeks away, in my opinion, of saying I'm officially in. He's getting his money together. He feels as though he could fight and win without going directly at Trump.

I'm not sure that, that's going to work. And I'm not sure anybody has the answer, by the way.

So Ron DeSantis is a focused on book tour remarks and doing book tour events. He's going to be heading to DC in on april eighteenth for a meet and greet with Republican with different Republican higher ups stirring some more twenty twenty four Rumblings. DeSances will meet with Congressman Mike Gallagher, as talented as anybody in Washington. Congressman Darren LaHood. as well as Congressman Randy Fenstra, who hails from the First New State caucus over in Iowa.

I know, too, that Santis is extremely close with the Iowa governor.

Now yesterday, Donald Trump, for eight hours, was grilled about his business. And he came out and said he felt great about it. And he also had used his truth social account to rip the attorney general. He said, Why did you give out the time? In which I was showing up, the minute you tweeted that out ahead of time, 9:30 in the morning, you made life extremely difficult for the NYPD, who are coordinated with the Secret Service.

So I can't imagine what it was like for seven hours. Last time, he said took the fifth 400 times. I don't think he's taking the fifth this time.

So we'll see what answers he gave. It's always dangerous, even if you're 100% innocent, to sit down for seven hours with a lawyer who's trying to trap you, by the way. Brian, kill me, Cho. Pete Heggs up next. Information you want, truth you demand.

This is the Brian Kill Me Show. How did this happen and isn't this a massive security breach? Again, we need to allow the investigation to run its course. We'll, of course, know more when that is completed.

So I'd refer you to DOJ on that. You put into context the damage that has been done by this leak? Again, right now, we're continuing to assess the scope and the impact, and so that's work that will be ongoing. I could not. He might be a good guy, but he's a terrible spokesperson, Brigadier General Pat Ryder.

I get it. You're supposed to spin when you're a press secretary, whether it's the Pentagon or the White House, State Department. But you could actually show some passion. I cannot believe since this top secret intelligence would be out and about, it's embarrassed us with allies and enemies, and the trust level has just dropped through the floor. And we've got to get to the bottom of this, and we've got to fix that.

What is wrong with saying something like that, Pete Hegseth, Fox and Friends Weekend, co-host, no tie, author of Battle for the American Mind? There's nothing wrong with saying that. The problem is the depth of mistrust that your listeners, that our viewers, that average Americans across the country have for government institutions. How do they know what to believe these days? How do they know Who to trust, what is real information, what is being spun by authorities.

This guy's house gets raided by a SWAT team. He's a 21-year-old Nashville Guardsman, shared information. Yet, in other circumstances and other cases, there's no action taken. We don't know. Where's the manifesto of the Nashville trans shooter?

Where's the Dobbs leaker out of the Supreme Court? I don't want to tell you what to do on the weekend, but wouldn't it be great for you just to call the Nashville Police Department and just on the air and just say, I'd just like to see the manifesto? We should. We should. I mean, these are the types of things we can't let go.

Yet now we're. I agree with you. Obviously, this is a serious breach. Obviously, this kid is. dumb and had a Desire to be liked by other kids in a chat room, foolish.

He'll be punished for it. But it But the way we whip our I mean the bigger revelation to me in this was what we learned from these documents that are leaked Which is that we're not getting the full story or a clear story about what's happening that we do have an understanding of how much we're driving our enemies into into the driving former allies into the hands of our enemies I mean Egypt are they gonna send weapons to China now because we've effectively to Russia excuse me because even though we spend how many billions in defense 50 50 billion dollars we spend to support them so it's revelations like that that to me are far more significant I know 21 year olds out there have security clearances way beyond probably what they should have this is an IT guy who had that Unfortunately, he crossed his oath and did the wrong thing with it. That's not the surprise to me. I mean, overclassification happens, too much access happens, humanity happens. To me, it's the f the lack of faith in government right now, which is Only getting worse.

You would only know because you're in the military. But I would say this, if you're a 21-year-old, you might say to yourself, again, I shouldn't have put, I shouldn't have taken this home. I got this caught up in my papers. As opposed to, I'm with a bunch of teenagers who I have never met, a chat room, which I created, and I'm going to impress them with military intelligence they never should see and ask them to promise not to let it elsewhere. Who's training this guy?

I mean, I don't, I'm not caught up. People are writing me saying 21-year-olds are asked to go to battle. I'm not fixating on the number. I just would want someone to prove themselves. How do you prove yourselves at a young age that you can be trusted?

I mean, you do it in sports all the time. I'm not going to give you the ball until you prove to me you got the playbook down. How are you going to act under pressure? I'm going to train you. Who trained this guy?

I mean, this is he got the same training anyone else in the military would have gotten. This is, remember, this is a giant bureaucracy that runs by protocol and procedure.

So if he passes certain bars, low as they may be, at whatever age, the next door opens. And if he's got no flags in his background and swore allegiance to the Constitution and put the uniform on, the next door opens. And then his job requires access to certain things, the next door opens. And he gets the briefings. But there's no deeper insight into someone's background than really that.

Here's the other scary part, too. We're missing our recruiting goals. You know this, I mean, massively in the Army and across.

So what do we do when we miss our recruiting goals? We lower the standards.

So you get more people with Questionable backgrounds, accessing even more information, which in a world where information spreads much more quickly. on a private video game chat room. This could be much further and wider than we even know. But this this guy's the latest revelation. Yeah, and I just think the That it's pretty devastating to know that we were listening in on the Russians.

We were listening in on a meeting that had Vladimir Putin, the head of the Wagner Group and the head of the FSB, arguing, and he was personally refereeing it. You think about how great our signals intelligence is. We're in that room. Do you think we're still in that room? Um They're not in that room.

No.

So they're not having these conversations.

So that to me is devastating. I mean, to think that, number one, Egypt, we caught him. We caught him trying to sell arms to Russia when he told us just the opposite.

Now you embarrass them. 'Cause you expose the fact that you embarrass him. Hey guys, I know what you're doing behind the scenes. Do you realize what we're giving you? Why are you siding with Russia?

What would possibly be in your mind? The UAE.

Well, you know what's in their mind, right? They have a food shortage. They need grain. Where does their grain come from? Ukraine.

Who can block that grain? Russia. But that's what Russia is doing already. Fair enough. But I mean this is this is real deal, realpolitik on the world stage, and Joe Biden is in Ireland saying that climate change is the single greatest threat that we face in the world.

We're asleep at the wheel. Zombie presidency, zombie American leadership. When you're yelling about an issue and making it the most important issue in a bargaining table, and your enemies are willing to give away that issue, And say words, but not do anything about it. Your persona non grata. You're not playing Global politics for American interests, which is what a president should be doing, and he's on a family reunion tour.

How he's getting a pass on this. I mean, where's the pride in the press? You are going there for a seven-hour trip to stay there for seven days, come back seven hours, and you produce nothing, no news. You know you're missing the story. And look, everybody loves to go to Ireland, it's picturesque.

But when you work, you work. I have no interest in going to the best place in the world. If I'm working, I want to do something. But he's not working. No, I know, I know.

And the press has nothing to do henceforth.

So they're sitting around. Though every organization's paying this money, they they produce nothing. One question. I don't consider it this none of the intelligence contemporaneous. I don't consider it a big problem.

And that right there shows you if Trump had said that, if Trump insisted on going to Ireland, staying there for five days, looking up his family, which I mostly say, he's mostly German brand. I'm sure he has Irish roots, looking up his family doing this, they'd say, this is a guy who doesn't want to be president of the country. They'd be out of their mind. They would be yelling 25th Amendment at the top of their lungs. Especially how he acted.

And then if he acted the way Biden's acting, I mean, it would be. Walt in they're just i We know who they are, we know what they believed, we know what they're protecting. And you you stare out at a screen right now, you see Jen Saki interview. We know exactly how they're going to spin it on behalf of their team. I just looking forward to twenty twenty four, how did they how is this sustainable?

How is he your candidate? You look at the mental deterioration of just two years, the pressures of the presidency, what it does to people, turn Barack Obama from a brown-haired guy to a gray-haired guy in two and a half years. I mean, that's what it does to you, the stress. There's no doubt. And then add to it the confusion that he has.

I mean it's it's gotta be impossible. How do you r How do you run him? I think we could be running headlong into a crisis where he has a Mitch McConnell-type moment. And then who's president? Is it Kamala Harris?

Yeah. Scaring everybody. It scares everybody. It kills Al Sharpton. We're just one moment.

I mean, uh he's she's right there. He's right there where Diane Feinstein is and and Mitch McConnell is and no one wishes that upon him. But what if it happens? He's stealing my whole weekend monologue. Do you realize that?

It's very unfair. Oh, I'm sorry. It's my whole theme of my monologue, and you're running it into the ground. I mean, I mean, don't be is that obvious? I was so proud of myself to come over this angle of knowing when to call, say, when.

And the great leaders? The great athletes sometimes they know when it's over. Willie Mays at 42. I can't do what I used to do. Will Mickey Manle, Joe DiMaggio.

LBJ had another four years. No, he knew the public had moved on. Vietnam civil rights. Nixon, I could keep fighting, but every instinct says fight, but it's better for the country for me to step aside. Yours is better.

But Pete Hakes had stumbles into my theme that took me months to come up with.

Well, I mean, great minds. Great minds think alike. Yours is going to be better. This will sharpen yours. Iron sharpens iron.

This is unless. You realize what he could do, Allison? He could do this on Fox and Friends in the morning. That would be devastating. I might have.

You better not. You better call in. This has happened a few times in media where some, you know, you stumble on a great point and then you realize you're going to get a chance to say it before the person who said it. For real. And the question is: do you cite your back your source or do you claim it as your own?

That might be the great compromise. Will you start it and go, Brian has more on this tonight? Brian has more on this tonight. Are you with us tomorrow to preview your show? No.

You don't book me anymore in the mornings. That's another thing we got to get on top of. Eric, could you look into that? Because I get Alison a lot. Here's Dan Hoffman, a CIA guy stationed in Moscow, on how this happened, Cut 11.

I don't understand, honestly, how a cyber transport systems journeyman that's his official title in the military, in the Air Force uh in the Air Force Guard How that enables him to see super top secret intelligence on Mossad, on Egypt, on the war in Ukraine to the extent that he did. I mean, it it just begs the question whether he was gaining access himself in places he shouldn't have been, like the way that Bradley Chelsea Manning did or Snowden, or whether he had accomplices. Yeah, it's hard to know what gender you are when he stole the documents. He was Bradley when he stole the documents, Chelsea when he got pardoned. He's Bradley.

You know what it is? I mean, think about the IT guys here at Fox. They could read every one of your emails if they wanted to, right? Absolutely. They could read every one of mine.

They could get into our computers, into our systems. That doesn't mean they're involved in our shows, but they could.

So if he really is an, I don't know that title, but an IT specialist in a unit. Then he's got access. They use the term journeyman. Have you ever heard that? I've never heard journeyman.

That's actually written everywhere. That must be an Air Force thing. You know what they say in sports? If you're a journeyman, that means you're totally expendable. First one to be cut.

I think what it means is you can be deployed or traveled to places to provide additional IT specialties, which might be why he gets. Even more access. But here's it, you know, that sports analogy you made about Willie Mays and these guys. You know why they had to call it quits? Because they're judged by real metrics.

So, hey, can you still hit? Can you still run a? How fast can you run a 40 so that you can outrun guys as a running back? When you start to realize you're not at peak performance, you don't want to be judged by the lack of performance you'll have later in your career.

So you retire. That doesn't apply to politics. Certainly doesn't apply to Joe Biden. When you can obfuscate and lie about what you're doing and cover it up, there's no real actual metrics other than Election Day. And they think they can.

You know? Cobble that together. Can you add that to the monologue, Brian? Allison, should I tell him the other element of the monologue? I have to.

I'll I'll you so the athlete thing, I got it. You say they have metrics. I I didn't run for one thousand yards this year, two thousand yards. All right. Look at entertainers.

Seinfeld says, I have respect for the show. I'm getting out on top. Jackie Gleason, in an interview, said, Why did you only do one episode of The Undermoved? He said, I knew I couldn't do it any better. And then you have Johnny Carson.

If he had more gas in the tank, now's the time. I feel as though I should leave.

So he left audience, left riches. All these guys left money behind because they knew it was more than them, even though it's entertainment. More than them. It's about the country, it's about your team, it's about your company. It's about the state.

But that's all about in politics, the amount of ego. Take ego and maximize it by 10. And you were never cool.

So now you can be cool because you're in politics and people know your name. That's, I think, where. But you also have plenty of musical acts who hit their heyday in the 80s or 70s and are still touring because they're still able to fill some small venues and make a little bit of cash. There's always the flip side. Don't ruin my monologue.

Just saying. I didn't even know there was a flip side to it. I'm thinking, you're thinking foreigners. Yeah, or aren't the Rolling Stones still touring? Right.

But But how about this? If they were touring and nine people were coming up, they go, guys, you gotta know when. But when you tour near the Rolling Stones and you're selling out the Meadowlands, then it's not time. That's true. Then it's not.

So again, my theme survives. It will be push back. It'll be must CT. On the Ivy League. All right, listen.

We're going to find out what's going to be on Fox and Friends this weekend because much to the chagrin of Will and Rachel, Pete has final say. I do. Who's on the show? I'm going to walk to the second floor, which is where Fox and Friends is located, and say, who's in there? And talk to the producers and say, in, out, in, out.

That's it. What's the topic? You don't even know their names. No.

Right. It's a girl with red hair. Exactly. Boy with short hair. Boy or man.

And then I take everyone on the ping pong table that we now have on the floor, and no one can beat me. And after 10 o'clock is when you start focusing on the pronouns, what they want to be called. Whatever they want. You ever get an email from that? My pronouns are he, they.

Well, do you get the emails that they're included in the name now? See that? Rarely, yeah. Doesn't go well. I don't need to expand on that.

Yeah. Back in a moment. Educating, entertaining, enlightening. You're with Brian Kilmead. From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Kilmeade.

At one point during his meeting with President Higgins, he actually had this to say. I'm not going to know what today's incredible place. And 70% of Americans were like, ah.

Okay.

So thank you all. God bless you all. Let's go late. Mick the world. Let's get it done.

Lick the world. Mick the world. Make the world. What is going on? Pete Hagseth is here, said to host his show for eight hours this weekend, 6 to 10.

What are you doing today? Uh a bunch of shows. What are you doing? Doing uh Gutfeld? Doing outnumbered.

Right. Doing. Hannity, I think. And unfortunately. This is a point of contention for us, but I think I'm taping Bon Bongino too.

I don't know, every week he locked you up in the 70s. Or you had a show. Like in 74, 1974, he locked you up. I know. Right.

I'm sad about it. No, the thing is, um, I don't really want to book you anyway.

So it's a, I mean, I'll pretend as if it matters like I'd want you on the schedule. Damn, you're not on the rundown again. The Heg Set Theal still stands. Easier than Joe Biden, let's put it that way. Right.

I mean, doing outnumbered. Doing outnumbered. Yeah, today. I'll tell you, this How do you, if you're an honest person on the other side, To your point. At what point do they start Or will the book be written there will be a book written by a reporter, Intrepid someday, saying, Of course we all knew, and we talked about it, and we tried to address it, and we tried to corral him, but there's nothing we could do.

Who's the person pushing him forward in the long? Is it really him? Is it his wife? Is it other political operatives? I don't know.

And this is for people listening right now, it's nothing to do with his age, it's his actions. Bernie Marcus of Home Depot, Bernie Sanders of Vermont. Tom Brady is really old, right? Didn't he have to retire? He didn't have to, but he chose to.

Right. So he's fine. He would be a better president.

So, this president was actually asked a question. What are your advice for success? Like, what is the key to success? And his answer was: get a COVID shot. And then eventually was I knew this guy named Jesse Helms.

He's talking to Irish children. That's his advice. Jesse Helms, COVID shot.

So, right there is the whole picture of that moment.

So, he won't take questions from reporters, but he'll take a question from a kid. Oh, yeah, and by the way, Hunter had to help. That's what I was going to say. The kid says, What are the steps to success?

So, like, a little confusing, but not confusing. You know what he's talking about? Hunter had to walk in and rephrase the question for Joe, to which Joe said, Make sure you don't get COVID. That was the answer, followed by Jesse Helms. He didn't really like black people, but you know.

What are you what is going on? Who's coming on your show from 6 to 10 Saturday Sunday? I have no idea. I think you do. I don't.

We're going to do off the wall on this. I'm on the wall. You're off the wall. We're off the wall, you're on it. And then I'm going to figure out in 20 minutes what else we're doing on the book.

Who's your booking? You do everything. I unbook and book.

Well, thanks, Pete. I think. Thanks, Brian. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmead.

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So glad you've been with us all week long. Big hour coming your way, Geraldo standing by, Dennis Ross. If you want to know what's going on in the Middle East, you want to know about what's at stake with the Abraham Accords, how we're approaching Iran with this nuclear deal sent the exact wrong message of weakness, what it does when we don't hit back, when we've attacked over 70 times with our troops in Syria. Dennis Ross will put it in perspective, along with why the UAE seems to have trouble with loyalty, as well as Egypt. Dennis Ross, and of course, your calls.

We hope the President of the United States is doing something really important today. Let me see. Hmm. Shortly, he is going to go with his motorcade to County Mayo to see what could be a distant relative's house. Is that a guy that wants to be president or go on vacation with other senior citizens?

Big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. Here's the reality. I mean, I have a lot of respect for Senator Feinstein. She's unable to fulfill her duties.

And I guess I don't know any other job where if you're unable to fulfill your duties, you can continue to have the position. Rokahana going for the jugular, calling it quits. It's time for Senator Feinstein, maybe Mitch McConnell, Joe Biden, to call it quits. There's pressure everywhere for them to do just that. What about Senator Fetterman?

Does anyone think he's up to the job? Number two. But I think come 2024, our party is going to choose the right standard bearer to meet this moment to strengthen America at home and abroad. Mike Pence weighing in, pulling away. Despite its unrelenting legal challenges, Donald Trump's league grows on the Republican primary race.

Are the big guns like DeSantis Pence, Pompeo, and Sununu waiting too long to get in? Is it already too late? We'll examine all angles. Number one. Today the Justice Department arrested Jack Douglas to Shara.

In connection with an investigation into alleged unauthorized removal, retention, and transmission of classified national defense information. Motivational Speaker Merrick Garland, talking about the unexplainable. But I will try how a 21-year-old National Guards member can gain and leak the most highly classified intel in our country and damage our reputation again globally. We will suffer. We will pay the price.

His name is Dak Tashira. Actually, he got should he get life in prison? If it looks the way it sounds, yes. Raldo Rivera, I'm not optimistic he'll get it. I mean, think of it as Bradley Manning got Chelsea Manning now, got a pardon for doing the damage that.

That they did. I guess they is the proper pronoun when you're a man and a woman. When you are a male, when you steal the documents, and a female when you're pardoned. Oh, we're gonna go over later. Yeah.

I can't I can't wait on the transitional pronoun, it's uh If you don't mind, you should get your call to your chief of staff and see if we can get some help on that. And same with Snowden, living a good life in Russia. What price did he pay? But this guy wasn't anti-American. He was just totally irresponsible if we were to believe what other people in his chat room said, Geraldo.

He's a schmuck. I mean, I I I hate to say it. He he does not have the malevolence, Brian. He wasn't Seeking to undermine the national security of the United States. He was in this hacker group, these thug shaker central hackers.

Uh They wanted to tell everybody, to inform, to impress, you know, the the pro military, anti war. I mean, it was just Uh it's a a a comedy of errors and the system, I think, Really is the the I hate to be as vague as that. But the responsibility falls on a system that allows Hundredths. Hundreds of general officers, admirals, navy captains, the colonels. Their aids Have access to this very, very sensitive material.

I mean, why make it secret? If you make it top secret, make it top secret. You don't distribute it to thousands of people, including some bratty kids with Uh computer skills. I mean it's uh it's a lot of people in real life. But I love what the perspective you brought on Fox and Friends, they never thought about this, that we were siloed.

Our intel agencies were so siloed they couldn't talk to each other to understand what was coming at us, that the bombing of the coal was going to lead to 9-11. And then we look back and we go, How did we had signal? We had clues. Why didn't it happen?

Well, we're going to talk to each other now. And now we talk to each other, and along the way, there's knuckleheads like this 21-year-old who wants to impress fellow male teenagers with his leadership and access and his knowledge of guns and memes, and decides to irresponsibly bring this stuff into a chat room and think it's not going to get out. I mean, people who didn't grow up with an iPhone in their palm might fall into thinking that they have a private chat on social media, but not a 21-year-old, he knows it's never going to stay private. Not only does he know it's never going to stay private, but when he initially distributed it and it didn't catch fire, it didn't cause the prairie brush fire that he expected, he went back in and released more information. to nudge it, to get it going, to get it to some people who were really active and went to some sites, some really sketchy sites that they were guaranteed that it would that it would be published.

It's a this is what happens. This is You know, what happens when they have kids who who are very skilled, very adapted at hacking, and you have a system where there's not enough discrimination as to who gets access to this material. Uh so if a secretary can get it, uh then this kid, the sheriff, can get it, then uh you know the next thing you know it'll be on telegraph and the Russians will get it. It's a I I think that you're go going back quickly to 9-11 and that's siloing. nobody talked to anybody at pre nine eleven.

You had city, you had state, you had federal, various federal agencies, national security, you had uh CIA, you had various agencies all had snippets here, there and everything, if they had compiled them, they could possibly have stopped the greatest tragedy, worst attack on American soil ever. But they so they they liberalized everything, they made everything more open, communications freer, but without dams, without checks and balances, without adults in the room supervising these kids, metaphorical and chronological. It is a tragedy. I read it though. I only know what I read in the papers and in the various briefings.

It does not seem as if anything really crucial Uh and it it it when the Russians started You know, altering it to make their casualties less than they were cited in the documents and the Ukrainian casualties greater than cited in the documents. When they started messing around with it, I think that that helped defuse it, ironically. When the Russians started, you know, toying with it, then there was no credibility with anything.

Well, I think that this might sober you up. If you read Josh Rogan today in the Washington Post, it turns out that it looks like they have leaked out that we know that China has lengthened the distance on their hypersonic missiles, which means our aircraft carriers have to be such a distance away, they're going to be ineffective against a Chinese offensive should they target us. Number two, they've stopped and altered the offensive the Ukrainians have because the initial plan was leaked out in detail. They also know that there's going to be an exhaustion on the rockets that go into missile defense.

So therefore, there'll be a big benefit for Russians to flood the zone because by the end of the month, our Rockets to knock them out of the sky will be lessened.

Now, also, our allies, it turns out Israel's Benjamin Netanyahu, the prime minister, the Mossad, according to reports that we have picked up, was helping foment the riots against Netanyahu and his changes to the judicial branch. That is not healthy as a fact, and then it's in the public square. It's really damaging, and in reality, is really concerning.

So the UAE is a very good question. But just let me say this one thing. How do you know what's real now, though? That's my point. How do you know what's disinformation?

How do you rely on we've got eighteen divisions you know at point X and they're going to go off on wide date when it's really they have a 15 divisions at point A, and they're going to go on December. You know, you d it once stuff gets. Altered There's a low reliability. In terms of Netanyahu in that particular leak, I don't know that it's true. I hope it is true.

That the Mossad's working against their own government? is understand the political nature of of the Netanyahu coalition And Yeah. Course, they were on in terms of but you never want the CIA working against the White House, and you don't want the Massage. We don't know what it's real. You don't know what's real.

And yes, of course, you don't. But hey, I want to get another topic if I can. You see that Donald Trump has lengthened his lead in almost every poll by between 26 and 35 points over the only other guy in double figures consistently in that is Ron DeSantis. Here's what Tom Bevin said last night about whether DeSantis is waiting too long, cut 24. I mean, the problem for Ron DeSantis, listen, he's de facto a presidential candidate.

I mean, he's been acting like a presidential candidate for the last few weeks. That's why Ron DeSantis' supporters should be nervous, is that over that period of time, he's given speeches at the Reagan Library, he's been to Iowa, he's been all over the place, effectively running as a candidate. And during that time, his. His uh his Polling numbers, he's gone from 30% down to 25%.

Meanwhile, Trump has extended his lead from 15% over to 27%.

So the problem is not necessarily Ron DeSantis has to say he's a presidential candidate, and that's going to turn things around. The problem is he's out there right now, and everybody seems to be galvanizing to Trump. Obviously, events have caused that to happen, but. I mean, I think that's the biggest worry for DeSantis folks right now. Should they be worried?

I I think Trump is the probable nominee uh absent some ex external uh uh event like a like uh another indictment uh there's gonna be more indictments in terms of DeSantis All I see about DeSantis on my T V Is ad after ad after ad, I guess paid for by Trump or Trump Associates. That said DeSantis is not ready for the big time. DeSantis doesn't know what's happening. DeSantis is naive. DeSantis is too small for the job.

Relentless. It's as big as my pillow on our channel sometimes, some of those ads.

So I think that DeSantis has not really started running in an effective way. And I sort of like him. I much, much, much prefer Chris Christie. I think Chris Christie would be a much more effective, powerful Republican nominee, and I could back him with verb and vigor because he's a real adult. I've always been a big fan of the governor.

He's a really a. A slugger. You see him on Bill Maher. He can handle himself with a any kind of hostile crowd. I I I like him and he makes DeSanthus look like a schoolboy.

Well, yeah, I'm very curious to see them all out there. See, before you run, do you really want to waste any money? But he's allowing President Trump to label him, marketing against him. He's going to have to deal with that branding unless he gets back out there. And I think he's rolling out an ad today.

He's got this pudding ad. It's kind of disgusting that. You got to check this out. It shows him Ron DeSantis eating, putting with his fingers, airing on CNN right now. Oh, fuck.

After a generic uh Viagra spot. Yeah. It's crazy. It's crazy. That's perfect.

At least they don't have him in his little white boots with all that rain they've had him for a long time. My exit question. Senator Feinstein, should she be stepping stepping aside? Should Mitch McConnell step aside?

Well here I think that's a good idea. I'll be 80 years old. I hope you come to my birthday July 4th in the Hamptons. Uh I I I think about my longevity. I think about my uh astuteness.

How long could I hold my ground against in a debate with you or with Gutfeld or some of the other challenges with Hannity? You know, and it's something I think about. I mean, so far I come to the conclusion that I've still got a couple of miles to talk about the horse. But you're taking your own account. But I'm thinking ahead, and with Diane Feinstein specifically, she's such a wonderful lady and she's been so effective over the years representing California.

Uh but she's uh you know, she's aged. I mean, really, she's uh she's an old eighty nine. Uh Uh, you know, it's a the The numbers don't lie at a at a certain point. Uh e even Warren Buffett. I mean, you gotta at at some point you gotta you gotta call her quits.

And and and if she's unable to show up, because that's the weird thing about our Congress. You have to show up. You have to be in DC. Uh and if she can't travel to DC, it seems You know, uh it it re really begs the question then what is it for? Uh do what is it just an ego trip?

It's going to be another Ruth Ginsburg for the Democrats. Uh you know, so I I I with Great love and esteem and respect. I would advise her to take care of the great-grandchildren. Yeah, you gotta do your job. You gotta do what's best for the country, best for the team.

No doubt about it. What's best for you should take a backseat to what's better for your state and your country. And I think. We've seen this over and over again for people. I mean, you don't think LBJ wanted to still be president?

Of course he did. But they said, you know, what's better for the country? I can keep fighting this out, but it's not going to help the country. Not at all. You're right.

Absolutely. All right. Geraldo Rivera. Hi, buddy. Are you going to have Bud Light at your party?

Ha ha ha ha. That's a whole other thing. Topic. I was so glad that Joe Rogan stepped up for Bud Light. I was so glad that he said, What the hell are people care about this?

What's this about to try to defuse that whole thing? Yeah, it didn't work, though. It didn't defuse it? No, it didn't.

Well, now with Kid Rock assassinating sex X on a regular basis. Right, it's true. Raldo Rivera, all over the transgender Bud Light story and everything else. All over. I gotta have a Bud Light right.

Go get him, Raldo. All right, Brian. Yeah, 1866-408-7669. Want even more Brian? Download the podcast at BrianKillmeadShow.com every episode.

Exclusive interviews on demand. More of Killmead coming up. A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Killmeat Show. This afternoon, the FBI arrested a 21-year-old Massachusetts Air National Guardsman in connection with the leaking of classified documents that were posted online.

The leaker is described as a lonely young man who is part of a chat room group that shares a love of guns and military gear. You know how sometimes you find yourself going, it's always who you'd least suspect, isn't it? This isn't one of those times. As a 21-year-old, he's devastated that this mistake may cost him his future, but he's also thrilled that he's posted something online and it totally went viral. Uh he's posted Thug Shaker uh c control channel, central channel, and it was on Discord.

And then it was between 20 guys. And for a while, during the pandemic, they were all bored. He was the older one. And according to this teenager that was in there, he would provide some leadership. And these guys are going through some rough times.

And he would help them out and show great compassion. Also, he would put up that he loved guns and love sports and love God, big Christian kid. And then he would also say, Look what I do for a living. Look at what the country is really up to. Let me share some of this intelligence as long as you don't share it with anybody else.

And then, being that they weren't reacting enough, he stopped doing the laborious task of copying over longhand. He just started taking pictures of it, leaving when he took some pictures, some of the backdrop that showed. Gorilla glue and different items.

So then they went over to the Instagram of when they started suspecting him of their si of his sister. And his sister posted on Instagram some things with the same guerrilla glue in the background, and they said, This is the guy. And as they're surveilling him, the New York Times knocked on the door. When the New York Times knocked on the door, the stepfather popped out, who was also in the military in the past. He said, Well, would he hear for it, or really?

He goes, I think my son's going to need a lawyer. A couple hours later, the son comes in. He's wearing red shorts and a gray T-shirt.

Now he's in prison. Brought down by a big show of force, and man, he's done great damage. I'll talk about that more with Dennis Ross, what it means to the Middle East, and so much more. And then we'll squeeze in some calls on the back end. Don't forget, One Nation coming up Saturday at 8 o'clock Eastern Time, only on the Fox News channel.

A radio show like no other. It's Brian Killmead.

So they probably suspect we're spying on him, but they just don't like it to be publicized. And so there's going to be a lot of diplomatic cleanup. on this one and This is going to override other priorities. It's going to take a lot of the oxygen out of whatever other diplomatic priorities we might have with. Uh, with Egypt or with Turkey, these this is going to be the issue, it's going to be very difficult for Secretary Blinken.

And I'm quite sure the intelligence community will be reporting on just how our foreign allies are seeing this. And then again, when it comes to our sources. Uh grave concern on their part. Can you protect me or not? Fine, I think UAE has uh A little duplicitous, kind of siding with Russia.

We find out about Egypt on the sly trying to sell Russia arms. With us right now is Dennis Ross, William Davidson Distinguished Fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. Knows as much about the Middle East and beyond as anybody. Dennis, welcome back. Good to be with you.

Dennis, how damaging is this to our allies? Put in perspective with the other major leagues.

Well uh Look, it obviously is damaging and I'm glad you asked me it that way because I was in the Obama administration when we had wi WikiLeaks. And I can tell you that was a more dramatic and more serious set of leaks than this. because it basically was compiling all the private cables that had come in and basically conversations. that were being exposed. And I know it took us several months to overcome this It clearly was a preoccupation.

I spent A fair amount of my time meeting with a number of our partners overseas, explaining. What had happened, what we were going to do about it, that it wasn't going to change our basic policy. We would safeguard secrets and so forth. The reality is we're going to pay a price for it. It is not something we can't overcome.

We will be able to overcome it, but it's going to be a distraction, and it will be used against us by those who are competing with us. I even say we're going to prove to be unreliable, China and Russia. And what about this? Israel's Mussad possibly helping support the protesters against the sitting government, Benjamin and Netanyahu? What about that?

All right, I was actually I just got back from Israel and I was there. I actually had discussions with All sorts of people as you might imagine. This was one of the things that really reflects a lack of understanding on the part of those who are providing these reports. I can almost predict exactly what happened here. There were at the time all sorts of news reports that Mossad was somehow involved in the demonstrations.

They were not. What was happening is you had former heads of the Mossad, like Tamir Pardo, Who was speaking to the demonstrators? You had 18 former National Security Advisors in Israel signing a letter to the Prime Minister. urging a pause, a suspension of the legislative process and a dialogue. And somehow, these kind of public issues then got incorporated into a report that was under a classified heading.

Just one thing to understand, Brian. And a lot of these a lot of these reports are put into kind of a digest Uh and what happens is You can have a classified heading, but then you can have unclassified paragraphs. within within the same document. My best guess is what happened is Some analysts probably put this, you know, wrote about what was happening in the public domain, and it got misinterpreted or overinterpreted. There's no way Mossad was playing a role.

in these demonstrations. The demonstrations basically embody almost every segment of Israeli society. And so are there people who work for Mossad who win the demonstrations? Yes, but not at a political level. All right, so that was one thing.

What about the UAE and their allegiance to us? They've always been double-dealing, right? They are an interesting, look, they are very important partners of the United States for sure. We have significant military assets and bases there. But the more they have become concerned about our reliability, the more they have hedged their bets.

So, you know, that they have a somewhat of a relationship with the Russians. I wouldn't exaggerate it because uh they see the Russians for what they are. What Russia has done in Ukraine has revealed more than anything else that it has a hollow military. They're not an impressive military force. The idea that you have your head your backs because Russia can somehow help you or can be a threat to you if you don't.

I don't think that's there, but I do think we're seeing A larger reality. We are seeing countries in the Middle East right now decide, you know what, There are a number of powers internationally. Let's have a decent relationship with each of them.

So you tweeted something out too, which I think was really important, and I pointed it out, and the fact that you did has much more credence. U.S. forces, you tweet out, have been targeted by Iran's proxy forces in Syria again. In response to 79 such attacks in the last two years, we responded carefully three times. Understandably, we don't want escalation.

The problem is our actions suggest we fear it. To deter this, Iran must fear it.

So you're not you know, you're not Mr. You're not a warmonger. You're just the opposite. You do your best work with diplomacy. And you're saying you can't work diplomacy unless we start showing some muscle.

Uh I couldn't put it better, Brian. Look, if you want diplomacy to work, it has to have a coercive element. If we want to affect the Iranians, first we want to stop the march of their nuclear program. And by the way, if we don't, we're going to end up with a war there because the Israelis will feel they have no choice but to strike it.

So if you want to prevent a war, You got to convince the Iranians they have to stop doing what they're doing. if they're attacking through their proxies us, they have to realize that that's Very risky for them. When we react in a very limited way, in a very limited number, in a very contained way, The message we send to them is we're so concerned about escalation They don't have to worry. We want them to be concerned. We're going to hit them hard, and they should be fearing the escalation.

We want to deter them. you have to do that. If we want to affect them so that they decide diplomacy is in their interest, They have to see what they lose if they don't pursue a diplomatic path. Were you as shocked as most people that Saudi Arabia and Iran were willing to talk to each other, brokered by China? And what does it actually mean?

No, I was not. And the reason I was not is I have known for the last two years, and it hasn't been a secret, but I've known for the last two years. The Saudis and the Iranians have been talking to each other. I've known the Saudis who were in those talks. They were very clear with me.

For two years they said the same thing, never varied it. They said We have made it clear that they want to resume relations, they want to reopen embassies. We've said to them, They control the Houthis. They help to bring that war to an end. We'll re we'll reestablish relations.

After two years, the Iranians with the Chinese agreed to do that.

Now does it change the way the Saudis look at the ch the Iranians? No.

Do they think that Iran is fundamentally changing their fundamentally changing that their their strategic No. They continue to look at the Iranians as being a threat, but maybe they're buying. a year or two of peace uh from the Houthis. And and they don't Trust the United States right now to be able to deter threats from Iran against them.

So if you can buy a year or two apiece, You do that. I was not surprised.

So the way the Saudis are kind of sticking it to us is is stunning to me. I know B President Obama ran as saying they're a pariah nation. Right. He just ran on that. He becomes president and he decides to cut our output on fossil fuels.

And then he tells them critical of them for cutting their output, goes to visit, it looked humiliating with the fist bump, and he came out with nothing tangible, and they're cutting production again.

So from the Saudi perspective, they're getting used to dealing with China. They have no problem seemingly doesn't have much of a problem for the short term with Iran, and they don't really have any use for America. To me, this seems correctable.

Well, it is correctable, but I also want to put it in perspective. The day after they did the deal brokered by the Chinese, they also went ahead and concluded a thirty six point seven billion dollar deal with Boeing. And this was their way of saying, okay, we did this. but you still have a reason to have an important stake in us. They also then, two days after that, they released a joint Saudi-American citizen, joint citizen.

Who they had put in jail because of critical tweets of the Saudis. And this was something we've been raising with them for months, and all of a sudden, they were leasing.

So it's kind of again, when I say hedge bets, it means many of the countries in the region right now decide Okay, we'll build relations with the Chinese, but we'll also maintain relations with the U.S. They don't trust China to come in and rescue them if they get in trouble. They still believe fundamentally they need the United States, but they're also signaling Look, don't expect us to do favors for you any longer unless you're going to be responsive to us as well.

So, yeah, I just think, Dennis, after talking to you and people like you and talking to players, all this stuff, I mean, the Abraham Accords are the most astounding thing to happen, especially for guys that study and live it and know the players. They just started falling into place. Who would ever think these countries would recognize Israel's right and understand they're not a threat to them and reestablish relations? And to get to that point, And because it was a Republican president Donald Trump that was behind it, and to drop the ball there. From people that just want peace in the Middle East, like yourself.

Do you find that frustrating?

Well, yeah, I I think What the Abraham Accords represented was how much the region has changed. And what we're seeing right now is many of those Abraham Accord countries are also taking a step back. They're not going to break their relations with Israel, but they're more hesitant now Partly because the environment is more threatening, so they're going to be hesitant. Partly because they have an Israeli government that has elements in it that Are embarrassing them. You know, when Smotrich gets up and says the Palestinians aren't a people, that puts the Emirates in a position when they're asked the question, what do you think about that?

It puts them in a very embarrassing position. You know, they made the deal with the Israelis because they see having a relationship with Israel is important to their interests. It doesn't mean that they are going to dismiss the Palestine issue or forget it. But it does mean they're not making it a priority. What they don't want to do is be put in a position where they get embarrassed by those kinds of public statements.

So, you know, it's very much up, I think, to Prime Minister Netanyahu to do things that will reassure them that these kinds of statements are not going to be made, they don't represent the policy. of the administration and and to be sensitive to the concerns they have. not only some of the political needs that he may have.

So, if the ramifications of us trying to get back into the Iranian deal and them basically giving us the Heisman. While that sent a message to the Saudis too. Because one of the things that spurred the Abraham Accords was the fact that we were making a choice. We were saying those are the bad guys. And so everybody goes, Yeah, now you see it.

And we made it clear. And then, but now, when you go back into a deal that they were not for, and Israel was going to alter, they were going to take action, that nuclear deal.

Now all of a sudden North Saudi Arabia has less of a reason to trust this administration. What do you think? They don't trust us to to who basically deter the threats against them. Therefore, they feel the need on their own. to make their own adjustments.

And they've also gotten out there past the point of feeling that They should simply be responsive to us because we asked them to be.

So, I think we're in a new reality there. It's not impossible to correct it, but we have to recognize. We have a stake in these countries. We want them to be part of a broader coalition against the Russians and the Chinese. For that to be the case, we're also going to have to take into account their needs and interests as well and to recreate an image of reliability.

And one thing we could do is say, hey, we're going to purchase some extra oil because we have depleted our strategic oil reserve and we've got to want it right away. I mean, would that also affect the price and show a resilient? A reciprocal action. It would be a smart thing to do. It's in our interest to do it.

it would be a smart thing to do. Dennis Ross, always great to talk to you. Best-selling author, Middle East expert, William Davidson Distinguished Fellow. Thanks so much, Dennis. Always a pleasure.

Thank you, Brian. You got it. 1-866-408-7669. A lot to discuss. A few better people to talk to with a great perspective of the players than Dennis Ross.

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Last night, the Chicago Bulls played the Toronto Raptors, and DeMar DeRosen's nine-year-old daughter went viral due to her high-pitched screams to distract the Raptors attempting free throws. Here she is here. And here's the voice you're hearing when Raptors shoot. She's screaming. I mean, that is championship behavior.

I love that. I do the same thing. My kids are sitting in the crowd at Seth Meyer's show right now.

Now, I tell you what, her strategy worked. Watch this. Official visit to Florida State. Ask me: what did you think is really good for him right now? He's in a good.

The Bulls end up winning by four points. If the Bulls win the championship, she should 100% get a ring. That is crazy, though. I mean, I would not, if that was my kid, I would not be happy. I wouldn't either.

You wouldn't wanna encourage that. But if you're cheering for your teammate, I mean, people do it, right? I mean, you see all the different shenanigans that happen, like people waving behind men in speedos dancing. Have you seen that one? No, really?

Yeah, they were um. Gyrating, yeah, I mean it and it threw off the guy shooting, gratefully so. It did work.

Okay.

I mean, uh, that actually the high-pitched screaming, though, that's it just bothers you, but it m it was effective, it worked, right? And they won. Yeah, it's it was a play-in game though. Yeah, but still. All right.

So listen, on a different note, we've played a lot of James Gordon today. Eric, was that the only late night show you watched, or is it the only funny one? It was I pulled it. It was the only one I really went through.

So I sort of have a cheat where I'll see like who plays the funnier jokes and then I'll list listen to his monologue and he had a good amount to pull. Right. Which was nice. I mean, right now it is Gutfeld. Kimmel Jimmy Fallon.

Stephen Colbert. And when Trump was in office, it was Colbert. Yeah. And I you know, then all of a sudden Gutfell is moving up and then Kimmel was fourth, so he's moving up. I'm surprised he's moving up because he's still doing Trump stuff.

I mean, he's still doing nonstop Trump stuff, which is which is just insane. But I guess he signed for a few more years. We'll see.

Okay, just let me just go over what's going on. Is that the most exciting? Interview in the world, but he's certainly a powerful person with all this stuff coming out with Ukraine. Having their war planned for their surge in the spring. being let out for the Russians to look at sometime over the last six months.

You have to wonder if the Ukrainians are angry and if they change their plan. Yesterday, on a special report, the Ukrainian Prime Minister was in town, and he said this, not only about the plan, but about the state of the war. Cut thirty.

Now the front line is stabilized. Russians are attacking in some points. We are ready for this and our military forces have very bravely protect our land. We liberate more than fifty percent of our territories which were invaded and occupied by Russians since 2402 and we will continue. We are very united with our partners and I'm sure we will win and liberate all of our territory.

And they're still saying Crimea. 97% of the people say keep fighting. 74% believe they'll come back and take all of Crimea. What they need to do, the Russians are moving in the east. What they need to do is have some major land back.

I mean, really push hard. And if they can do that, they're now, they occupy 17% of the country. They were at 25% of the country. If they could get this together, get these tanks on time. And you heard what General Kellogg said: we have a fleet of tanks sitting in Germany just in case the Soviet Union invaded.

We can go and channel them right there. And he knows he was just at the White House working as a military advisor. And by the way, an advisor to President Trump, too. Trump loves him. To Vice President Pence at the time, he knows exactly what they have.

He's also been on the ground in Ukraine, keeps going back and forth. I think he's hired as a contractor consultant. I think that's a great move, by the way. Just like I think it's great for Douglas Murray, outstanding columnist, Fox News contributor, also go on the ground in Ukraine. And he got a chance to see for himself how hard they're fighting and how much.

success they've had, but they can't fight more than a year or two. There'll be nothing left to the country.

So get them what they need now. This slow pace of all these things is just agonizing. Who's got the wrong guy in charge? They're to cajole President Biden, according to these leaks, to call the South Korean leader. And ask him to give them the armaments and ammo they needed.

And it was the Polish leader that told, said, I'll talk to President Biden. And there's no word that he ever picked up the phone. If you can't get a president to pick up the phone, you got problems. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead.

Hi everyone, welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Killmeat Show. I come to you here from 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan, heard around the country, around the world. And you know, I just keep hearing over and over again that my life would be so much easier if I just went to Grand Central Station when I had to go home instead of going all the way to Penn Station. I just fear getting there and having to wait for a train forever. But this is something I really could handle with my own personal staff.

I shouldn't rather be talking on the radio. Shannon Bream is going to be standing by shortly. Her people have told me to stand by. They give us a two-minute warning when Shannon's ready because she doesn't want to come on early or late. It's much like the President of the United States.

That's how important you are when you have a network show. And Jimmy Falia is going to be working next door shortly and taking over for me in most markets.

So it's very easy to book him, but he is not dressed.

So we do not, even though a lot of times, even if he doesn't want to be, we stream on Fox Nation, so I have standards.

So let's get to the big three.

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I mean, I have a lot of respect for Senator Feinstein. She's unable to fulfill her duties. And I guess I don't know any other job where if you're unable to fulfill your duties, you can continue to have the position. Yeah, Gro Kahana says, get out, Senator Feinstein. Enough for you.

Mitch McConnell, should he be next? What about Joe Biden? Should he call quits? There's pressure everywhere for them to go. What about Senator Fetterman?

You know one person who's not happy about the pressure from the left? Nancy Pelosi. Number two. But I think come 2024, our party is going to choose the right standard-bearer to meet this moment to strengthen America at home and abroad. Mike Pence on my show on Fox and Friends this morning, on last night.

Pulling away. Despite his unrelenting legal challenges, Donald Trump's lead only grows in the Republican primary race. Are the big guns like DeSantis, Pence, Pompeo, and Sununu waiting too long to get in? What an interesting question. Number one.

Today the Justice Department arrested Jack Douglas to Shara. In connection with an investigation into alleged unauthorized removal, retention and transmission of classified national defense information. That is the electrifying Attorney General, Merrick Garland. Unexplainable, but I will try. How a 21-year-old National Guardsman can gain and leak the most highly classified intel in our country in some circumstances and damage our reputation globally.

Yes, we will suffer. And will Jack Teixeira actually get the life in prison that he seems to deserve? We look at the fallout and what led to his arrest with Shannon Bream. Shannon. We've had a lot of fast-moving stories, different type stories, different challenges.

This is an interesting one. We never foresaw this, that a twenty-one-year-old Part player uh partial National Guardsman get this type of access and have make the ridiculous judgment that he could go into a chat room over a year ago. Tell everybody not to leak any of this information and think it's not going to get out.

Well, and that's the thing. I mean, no matter what your intentions are, if you want to share it with a small group, if you want to impress them, those are the allegations. It doesn't matter the fact that you share them and somehow they leap beyond that group and end up in the hand of the Russians. That's the whole point about why this has to be handled so carefully. And I think the question everybody keeps asking is: how does this 21-year-old sort of junior guy in the military have this level of access?

60 documents made public. The last 60 originated from the CIA operations, some to the Pentagon Joint Chiefs of Staff, Ukraine force strengths, what they need, what they don't need, their complaints, classified results of different battles, daily intel reports that normally go to Mark Milley, the CIA take on what the Mossad is up to in terms of would be the unrest inside Israel. I don't really think Israel's thrilled with us spying on their spies or somehow finding a way to listen in on what they're saying. Let alone the UAE, let alone the fact that Ukraine's got to change their battle plan because we let it get out to the Russians. Yeah, and listen, I think we all know that we all, of course, spy on the bad guys out there, our enemies, but we do it on our allies too, and they do it to us.

But it's not fun when it's out there in public, and you got to deal with this on the world stage, especially that this is such a junior guy. The rest of the world is looking at this and saying, like, this 21-year-old guy allegedly, you know, was able to upend some of the, you know, most protected classified information. And I imagine there's probably, there are probably some. uncomfortable phone calls and back and forth conversations with people who are our allies and are swept up in this information.

So even though the President yesterday said, not worried about it, it's older information. This is stuff that's only maybe a few weeks old, and the Pentagon feels differently about it than the President does. Shannon, I know you pride yourself on your fair and balanced delivery. And it's hard to see emotion. But to think the president could be over and seas doing really nothing for the country for five days, meeting with a cursory meeting with the UK Prime Minister I don't even think he recognized, and then walking around from church to see different bricks in the countryside, and then making ridiculous statements to Irish children, when you have a leaking scandal, when you got an emboldened China, when you have unprecedented military exercise over Taiwan, responded by U.S.

exercises along with the Philippines, with the Brazilian leader flying over to China and declaring they're looking to get off the dollar. How can you possibly not even have a press conference, a sit-down with your favorite outlet, or a TikToker with nose rings and purple hair?

Something that makes it worth the time for news organizations to send people over there. I mean, this is the biggest pass he's ever gotten. He did also try to pet a dog that barked at him. Yeah. And dogs are all.

I had a Bernie's Mountain, though. They're the friendliest dogs. I've never seen one react like that. It's strange. But yeah, there's a lot of head scratching here in Washington.

And it's not just by Republicans. People on the left, too, are saying, like, what is he doing exactly over there with all of these other crises, as you mentioned? I mean, if you're going to do a foreign policy trip, and he's done some important ones, I mean, Ukraine and others, this does not seem like the time to go on a tracing the family roots kind of situation with all of those hotspots you mentioned.

So there is some consternation, and it's not just on the right here in D.C. And there is people saying, not thrilled with the fact that he came out and said it's not really that big of a deal. He said there's nothing contemporaneous about that information. And he moved on. And this information is not like ten, twenty, fifty years old.

This is like forty-ish days. I I mean, it's a matter of weeks.

So I I think to call it old I think was a surprise to some of us. Wow, you are so diplomatic. You could be a press secretary. You could I could. I'm aiming for ambassador.

I want it somewhere really good, though. I guess so. I admire that. Because I'm much too emotional. Italy is like first on the list.

You gotta be diplomatic, Brian. Do you have a heavy bag at home where you get your real frustrations? Do you just talk to your husband about how you really feel? Um, oh yeah, Sheldon Bream gets an earful, unfortunately, the poor guy. Um, he soaks it up, and I go for runs.

That really helps me. A little deaf leopard, and I'm good to go. Oh, my goodness. You listen to classic rock? Why?

Who doesn't? I don't. It's all in good taste. I'm done. Oh, my gosh.

You heard it already. I will listen to New Country.

Okay, I like that too. All right. But I made a decision. I'm not looking back. Maybe I am.

Okay, but but I am. If I really need to like a little eye of the tiger, a little something to get me going. You know, eighties works. I had a tiger. Rocky three?

So Jillian Turner, full-time employee of ours, was able to work her sources and find out about how much damage was done cut six. Not only does he obviously have access to this material, but a senior DHS source today told me that it is likely that thousands, if not tens of thousands, of other employees had access to the very same information on a daily basis as Teixeira did. They've got to have what's called a internally inside the government, they call it the trifecta. In order to have access to certain classified information, you need to have security clearance that's appropriate. You need to have signed a non-disclosure agreement.

You also have to have what's called a need to know. You have to have a proven need to know what's in that intelligence in order to complete your duties. Teixeira's need to know was that he needed to be able to transfer that intelligence around the different military systems. He's a mechanic. He's not he's not using we don't need his analysis.

We need his ability to keep the lines of communication open throughout his base and other bases. While that's coming through, he's reading the t the ticker tape and going, Wow, this is kind of interesting. I can't wait to go bring this to my chat room, which is nicknamed Thug Shaker Central channel uh on Discord. Which was transferred to Wow Mau over to 4chan and Telegram. For this moment, if somebody was tuning in, they actually thought I was conversant in the social media dark web.

You read it convincingly, and I, when I heard Thug Shaker Central, thought that is the kind of group that Brian Kilmead would be involved with. Yes, if that was. Because the name alone made me think you fit right in. Right. So, and this is what other people have said.

It's not that he's not patriotic. He's a patriot. He loved guns. He loved setting up memes. He was patriotic.

He was very religious, big-time Christian.

So, unlike Edward Snowden, who said, I don't like this policy, and Bradley Manning, who became somebody else, who decided I don't like this policy, I'm going to go to jail for this. This guy's like, I just want to be cool. Yeah, and the thing is, that's why the rules are the same. Intent doesn't matter because look at where we are now. And I mean, it's a good tale of caution for any other young guy in the military or young woman in the military who's out there thinking, Yeah, I'm going to show my street cred with this and let them know what's going on.

If that's what happened, I mean, those are the allegations, and um it doesn't matter what the motivation is, it can end up like this did in the Russians' hands, and that's the whole point. But you gotta wonder. How he didn't get it, I still feel like I'm not sure he gets the import of this whole thing because to share it so cavalierly, allegedly. It's confusing. Wow.

Thanks for adding allegedly there. I almost had to stop you. Listen, that's the attorney of me. All of this is innocent until proven guilty. Unlike Nancy Pelosi, who says, you know, guilty until proven innocent.

Right. Either way, it doesn't matter. I did go to law school and take the bar. Right. And you passed.

I did.

Somebody else who passed is Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, and now he's under fire. Evidently, this rich benefactor that happens to be his 20-year friend bought his mom's house in the effort to maybe make it a library. And this would be a violation, it seems, of Supreme Court Justice ethics. Defense Learning and Supreme Court ethics reform advocate Danny Greenberg weighed in, Cut 36. It is, of course, totally shocking that a Supreme Court justice would do this.

Probably the first thing you learn in law school as a first-year student is that the appearance of justice is as important as justice itself.

So, right off the bat, that he's doing anything with an appearance. But the notion that he defends this as saying, maybe I should have reported it, but I didn't get advice to do that, it's not about reporting, it's about what he's doing. What are your thoughts about how big this one will get?

Well, the thing is there is no ethics canon for the Supreme Court. I mean, federal judges have that. There are disclosure and reporting rules that, you know, Justice Thomas has said, I follow the advice. I thought I was doing it right. I will, you know, continue to do that moving forward in the future as well.

But this raises that question about should there be an ethics code for Supreme Court justices? Like if there's an allegation of a conflict, only they can recuse themselves from a case. There's no way to force them off a case. They have a lot of deference because I guess to this point we have really trusted them. But it renews all these calls over on Capitol Hill.

Plenty of Democrats over there saying they're going to demand that listen, they fund the judiciary, and if they want to get their funding, that they're going to have to pass the code of ethics for the Supreme Court.

So interesting to see if there's any bipartisan move on that. But yeah, I mean, Justice Thomas, I would expect, is going to have to issue another statement of some kind or explain exactly what this transaction was about.

Well, I mean, do you like my explanation? I thought this was it. This benefactor bought his mom's house because they're going to make it a museum. Clarence Thomas. And that's the thing is, I've heard that before.

I mean, that's been publicly reported, so it's not new. And whether it now is being leveraged as something new and shocking, I mean, the tone of that epics guy was sort of like, I can't believe it. It's like that information's actually been out there. I've read it and heard it before, that it was going to be something about a long-term legacy preservation thing, that it was sort of going to be about the library or, you know, that kind of situation.

So, and maybe we didn't have the detail level that we have now, but I do think it's going to be something that, you know, folks are going to want to know more about and hear from the justice about. I might as well say this. Sean Hannity is going to buy my childhood home and make it a library was going to be a surprise. Is that going to be an ethic violation for talk show hosts? I mean, can he afford it?

I that's the thing. Kennedy does well, but does he do do buying Kilmead's childhood home well? Yeah, which is a compound. It goes on and on and on. I think so.

That explains a lot. You grew up on a compound. All right. So, Shanna, who's in your show?

Well, we've got General Jack Keene to break down all this leak stuff and all of the foreign policy nightmares that are going on around the world. And also, we've got Congresswoman Nancy Mace, who is a very interesting voice within the GOP in that she says she's pro-life, but she thinks the GOP is really getting the abortion stuff wrong. They're not handling the issue well. And we've got Congressman Rochana as well, Democrat, who we have a lot to talk to him about, the AI stuff, the tech stuff. He's very well versed in that.

I mean, that's Silicon Valley is where he represents. But also his comments on Dianne Feinstein. And it's time for her to go. Nancy Pelosi has called that sexist. She wasn't referring to him directly, but it's going to be very interesting to see how he takes that criticism.

That's going to be very interesting. I think. I got one more thing for you. Yeah. I almost forgot.

Senators Rounds and Gillibrand, so from either side of the hill. They do something very special together. And I thought, okay, people need to know where these guys are actually working together on something.

So they agreed to sit down with us and tell us about it.

So that's on Sunday, too. Do they rebuild a pal is it a playground? It is not, but I'll suggest that as their nec next project. If you don't mind. Yeah, I will credit you.

All right, good. All right, so and who's on your panel? Oh my gosh. Kayla McEneny is on the panel. Also, former Congressman John Delaney.

And I'm going to get in trouble because right now I can't remember the other two. Doesn't matter. As long as you're there. Hold on. Hold on.

Can you hold for two seconds? One, one thousand, two, one thousand. Oh, Josh Holmes is going to be with us, and also Mario Parker from Bloomberg News. Wow, that's a big panel. It's almost too big.

I think you'd have to cancel one. No, we're going to do two panels because we're going to give them plenty of time to talk. A lot of big personalities. All right, including yours. Look at you.

She's working Sundays. But what do you want people to do on Saturday? I want him to watch your show first, get prepped, get read in, be entertained, informed, and then take a nap and then come watch me on Sunday. Go get him, Shannon Bream. Thanks so much.

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I keep hearing these people talking about this guy. This, well, he basically is a traitor who stole our information, is handing it out. If someone, you know, winds up murdered because of him, is he gonna get charged but with such? No, I think he's got the question is: is it going to be a military? Court-martial, or is it going to be tried in a civilian court?

Listen, I never would have let Manning out. I never I would have found a way to get to get Snowden out. We could have stopped him in Hong Kong, remember. And the same thing with all these all these guys. They do tremendous damage to our country.

But the subplot is, is this guy had no problem with our policy. He this guy actually was in a situation where he had our most sensitive secrets and is on a chat room trying to impress teenagers. How can that be? If you're one of our allies, what are you thinking today? Exactly.

Yep. I mean, I d I just think there should be more of a, you know, a a strict Punishment for him. I'm sorry. This is a serious thing. I keep hearing people say he's only 21.

I don't want to hear it no more. It is what it is. I mean, look at how much damage they're doing in New York City with these teenagers. Most of these criminals are in their teens. This is just a white-collar crime that's hurting us immeasurably around the globe.

And we have a president that we can't get to leave Ireland. The only country we don't have a problem with. That he hasn't screwed up relations with yet. We don't know. how it's being covered, but he does not look too sharp.

If you know what I'm saying. Jimmy Falia will be in here next, and we'll be trying to squeeze some calls there. Don't move. Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show.

This afternoon, the FBI arrested a 21-year-old Massachusetts Air National Guardsman in connection with the leaking of classified documents that were posted online. The leaker is described as the lonely young man who is part of a chat room group that shares a love of guns and military gear. You know how sometimes you find yourself going, it's always who you'd least suspect, isn't it? This isn't one of those times. As a 21-year-old, he's devastated that this mistake may cost him his future, but he's also thrilled that he's posted something online and it totally went viral.

That is James Corden last night, off his monologue. Jimmy Falya, barely smiling. Fox Cross America. And he's always happy. But, you know, he's calling it quits.

This guy's done at the end of the year. Corden.

Well, you know, a lot of the local restaurants called it quits for him. Don't forget, remember he got banned from Balthazar because he was a little rough on the staff. By the way, Jimmy's show starts at noon. He's giving us some quality time prior. Fox, what are we calling it now?

Fox Across America? With. Jimmy Phala. Yeah, well, you should put that first. No, you always say put my name in the title, but you understand.

Like, when they launched this show, they weren't too sure. They're like, I don't know how long this guy's going to last. They had width and had it blank. Yeah. And they just had like hangman.

It's like a lot of people don't say this, but like the institution of marriage, they don't really have a lot of faith in it. That's why they always say, Do you take this man? Right. This guy, you know, just in case. And now you got to pick a pronoun.

Yeah, now you got to. You got to make a pronoun. You make this them. Yeah, they or them.

So you were saying, but I love talking about this because James Corden to me seems the most talented. Yeah. I mean, he's singing, dancing, that karaoke thing. Does Corey. But yet I just seen him go, yeah, I'm going to call quits.

I think he's exhausted by the format. 'Cause what happens is like a lot of those late night shows specifically are very samey. Like Tuesday night we're in the car pretending to sing. Wednesday night, we're cracking a head over an egg over each other's heads. I think he just outgrew the format.

And, you know, he's probably made enough money. But is he not a nice guy? According to restaurant staff, no, because I've heard that in multiple places. Yes, and I like the problem. You should be happy you're going to be.

Thank you. No, it kills me. I have survivor's guilt, you know, from being a cab driver. When I get driven home from here, I am tipping these guys to the point that they think I'm romantically interested. Right.

Like, they think we have something. It's like I have to give them a talk at the end. I'm like, I'm sorry, Frank. It's like a wife and everything. But I never understood that.

But on some level, I think what happens is: you know, it's a big showbiz guy, he was doing movies too. He's so used to everything in the universe revolving around him that he probably just doesn't have patience.

So I don't think that it's not that he's a bad guy. I just think he probably snaps too quickly because he's used to convenience.

So this story in particular, there's a lot of stories that come down the pie and go: here comes the election, here comes the midterm. All right. But to think that it this story would turn the way it did and have all this information with a war that we're supporting, with a war that divides the country, begins to divide the country more and more to begin with, and then to have a president stuck in Ireland on his own volition, the only country we don't have a problem with, he will not leave. This is the longest trip. He's in the countryside today.

You know, and seriously, think about this. What they should be doing, given the condition Biden is in, is at this point he shouldn't be going overseas. They should be sending him to Epcot. And telling him he's overseas. Might as well.

You know what I mean? That way at least he's around for the optics of it all. But you know what it tells me, Bry, when you think of you know, we're kind of in like a code red moment on so many fronts domestically right now. The fact that they're willing to let him leave the country at a time like this tells me he's not really running this thing. It really creates the perception.

But here's the problem: there's no Al Haig. I'm in control. We need a wartime conciglieri, like in the Godfather. We don't have one. I mean, if Bush 43 was out of town, Cheney's like, I got this.

Yeah, exactly. Right? I mean, John Rumsfeld, you don't think could handle this? They'd step in. Yeah.

I mean, you have the chief of staff, Andy Carr. Like, no, no, I know how to run this thing.

So you do not have that experience. No, no.

So I don't know who's there. And somebody was telling me the other day is that for the longest time, like it or not, Ron Clain was in control. Yeah. This new guy hasn't taken control. But I want you to hear, this is a Democrat, Richie Torres from New York, who you might have picked up in a cab one time, cut nine.

Look, it goes without saying that nothing is more critical to the security of our nation than protecting the confidentiality. Of our secrets. And I'm just concerned about the security failures. How could a 21-year-old National Guardsman?

so easily access and leak. Massive amounts of classified intelligence.

So there should be an investigation into what went wrong, and Congress should act decisively. To put in place whatever safeguards are required. He's trying to softly land the plane and have to respond to the fact that Trump, that President Biden said, yeah, and it's not a big deal, it is a big deal, but nothing contemporaneous got out. Yeah. Has anyone ever gotten together in this administration and coordinated messages?

No.

Ever. Right. Because everything is walked back to crisscrossed. But the bigger issue is, you know, he alludes to the point of, you know, how could a 21-year-old kid get access to this? That does matter.

But my bigger frustration is how come we always ask these questions after the fact? Right. Like, shouldn't we be asking this? There's probably a multitude of fronts right now where something that's a how could this type of thing be happening be addressed on the front end, but it's always after a problem, number one. Number two, I think obviously they want that problem because the response to this is we have to monitor chat rooms more closely, which will give them more domestic spying capability on the rest of us.

But I think the other thing, and this is the bigger issue for me, is we're going to put so much effort, and I'm seeing it in the media already, into profiling this Jack to Sheriffella and his friends. But how about the specifics of what's in these documents? I know. Because they don't read what's going on.

Well, not from our enemies or our allies. You know, Egypt's supposed to kind of be our pal, no? And they're moving some decent product from what I read. And China, that was real. That China and General Jack Keene gave us credit for that.

He gave this administration credit because he said when he found out that China was considering giving lethal aid, we came out and said it. Last time we said Russia's going to invade, we thought that would scare him away. They invaded.

So that didn't really work. Yeah, it's like this one hopefully will. We'll see.

But China, Michael, what are you going to do about it? We're on the deck of the Titanic arguing about a guy who cheated and shuffleboard. Right. I'm like, I think we got bigger problems on the boat. I'm not going to lie.

Right. I want you to hear when you talk about people that should be held accountable. This is what Dan Hoffman said. And I'm name-dropping. You would never do your show.

He would never do that. Has he done your show? No, he deserves better. Why wouldn't you book him? I mean, we might.

Because you're afraid of being rejected. No, maybe he says yes. I could throw your name around. You'd be surprised when I get on that show. Really?

You have permission to throw my name around? You know, Brian asked if you could do him a favor and come on my show. CUD13.

So I think actually the person who's going to find herself on the hot seat is the Director of National Intelligence, Avriel Haynes. And remember, she was Deputy Director, CIA, Deputy National Security Advisor in the Obama Administration when we had those serious scandals, Snowden and Manning. And the question I think that will be asked of her when she testifies next is whether she did a zero-based review of how we're protecting our secrets. And did we button down the hatches? The old adage, defense wins championships, has never been spoken in this administration.

What will be spoken is we'll find out this was caused by climate change. Ever since the emissions went up, people started leaking documents. It's so hard to take them seriously about anything because nothing happens with this administration that isn't somehow co-signed to their agenda. You know, you'll hear it like, oh, well, equity, acquirement. I mean, I know you would think this shouldn't apply here, but it's going to apply here.

I mean, here's an example. I think to build on your point, the chips bill. Yeah. Oh, yeah. By the way, if you are a company that accepts our money and brings manufacturing home, you'll be forced to give family leave.

Yeah. So, oh, excuse me, what? Family leave? Yeah, family leave. Yeah, and then we've got to make sure you have equity in your hiring and your management if this company is going to get the grant that is our money to give to.

So wait a second. You're shaping the look of a chips manufacturer who you quickly have to get online in order for our own national security. They do this with everything. Look at the EV thing. Yeah, we're just looking out for the little guy.

So go buy a $62,000 car, little guy.

Well, let me ask you something. Uh One of the few people that are very impressive with this administration is the guy Michael Reagan. At least he showed up. Mm-hmm. He shows up, makes the announcement in the Rose Garden.

I mean, can you wait for the president to come back? No.

I mean, do you have to quickly wait? What are you who's who's making these rules? All of a sudden, he's taking questions. The president's over there, like, yeah, I'm not really. I had to tell kids, I have to talk to the Irish children.

Yeah, like, so I'm one of those guys, you know, I grew up in the ra in the 80s, Reagan presidency, Levittown, you know, post-World War 2 GIs returning home from the war, very patriotic. I root for the country. It doesn't matter who the president is. It's like I didn't like Roger Clemens growing up, but he got traded to the Yankees. Guess who rooted for Roger Clemens?

But what were you cheering for him when he wasn't? No, not at all. The analogy is not going to work. No, it is going to work, because I didn't quit the Yankees because they got Roger Clemens. I continued the route for them.

Of course, that's what I mean. But I don't quit America because Biden's president. But the reality is, when I'm looking at the moment we happen to inhabit right now, this whole presidency, Bri, is like it's like an iTunes user agreement. What I mean by that is they're just telling Biden to scroll to the bottom and click I agree to whatever they've put onto the table that day. You don't get the feeling he's in charge.

I know we say that, but it's kind of borne out by moments like this, where Regan goes to the Rose Garden and is speaking. There are so many people speaking where the President traditionally would speak. And that's the tell to me. Even there's no foreign press conference overseas. Even the White House, the press pool, why are they there?

They're there to do what?

So I remember the story with Steven Spielberg. I don't know if it's true or not. He just walked on to. He walked onto the Universal campus and just set up a shop. He had no business being there and started taking pictures.

And next you know he's Steven Spielberg. I mean, in a way, you could walk in the White House, just call a press cop. Jimmy Feller, president of entertainment, fashion, and Middle East. I used to think a guy with my bi background could never get in. But if Hunter's walking around the White House, come on.

I mean, I'm grade A. Hello, DeSanders. Put it this way. When Hunter's over there asking the secret to succ the Irish kids are asking Hunter what the secret to success is, I think they're scurbing the bottle. They literally asked him that.

So the other big story that you're trying to avoid, and I don't like it, that you're trying to avoid, is Baseball has picked up to such a pace that it's uh cut a half hour out.

Now, If you sell beer for a living and you stop selling beer in the seventh inning, you're losing money.

So some stadiums. Are deciding to continue to sell beer into the eighth, ninth inning. Here is the Phillies Matt Strom. He's upset by this. The reason we stopped it in the seventh before was to give our fans time to sober up and drive home safe, correct?

Correct, yes.

So now, with a faster-paced game and me just being a man of common sense, if the game is going to finish quicker, would we not move the beer sales back to the sixth inning to give our fans time to sober up and drive home? Instead, we're going to the eighth, and now you're putting our fans and our family at risk driving home with people who have just drank beer 22 minutes ago. Heart in the right place. Wallet and head in the wrong place. The reason they have a high average annual salary in Major League Baseball of like $3.5 million a year is because guys like you and me pay $22.50 a beer.

In the seventh inning and the eighth inning. He's right on the time technicality. He would technically be correct, but the revenue they would lose out by speeding up the game, the whole point of speeding up the game was to increase revenue, meaning get more engagement from a younger audience that needed a faster-paced sport to tune into it. But in the short term, you're going to lose some sales. Yeah.

I mean, now, two things, though. When he says, you know, some of these teams, you know, cut beer sales to give the fans time to sober up. It's not always true. Like the Milwaukee Brewers, okay, they had only cut beer in the seventh because their fans had usually moved on to stronger stuff than alcohol by then. Have you done that study?

No, the beer, yeah, the beer ain't gonna do it anymore. What else you got up there? You know what I mean? But listen, I appreciate the guy expressing true concern for the fans because, you know, Major League Baseball isn't. Really doing that.

Now, one of the things about you that I thought was very interesting, you were one of the few people who thought it was a good move to have Dylan Mulvaney on the Bud Light cam. And I said, Jimmy, are you sure? Good for you. And so, Jimmy, so this has really worked out for Budweiser. They're down there.

You know who really did make out like a bandit, though, is the girl who did this because they can't fire her. Because even though she's cost them $6 billion in marketing, yeah, they can't fire her. It was just so horriphic. Just some marketing person thought, I have a good idea. No, she thought she had a good move because she thought she was insulated against.

I don't doubt that she thought it might work, clearly wrong there. But she's insulated against getting fired if for no other reason than it makes the company now look transphobic. A lot of this is a front-end shakedown.

Well, for one thing, the odds are tacked against her because she's a woman and it's still a man's world. Number two is then she goes out of her way. She might even be white. Can you imagine? But think about this.

Everybody yelling at you about the gender pay gap, Dylan Mulvaney's been a woman for like an hour. He's got 10 million in the bank. I don't know that that study holds up anymore. Yeah, we kind of blew it. The only thing Dylan's done to alter anything is facial work.

Yep. And yeah, so there's that going on. And the other thing is, and this is the part I think is so stupid, because they gave him the can to what, commemorate one year of womanhood. I said this to Hennedy last night. I'm like, so, Bud Light, you're giving beer to a one-year-old girl.

How is this okay? But I thought Will Kane, and I have to give proper analysis. Will Kane analyzed this? He goes, The thing that's bothered me most is she's pretending to be a little girl. Yeah.

She's actually a six-year-old thing. She says she's want to be a woman. Like, Caitlin Jenner didn't pretend to be a teenager. No.

And make no mistake about this, okay? And I know this from being in Showbiz, a guy who's worked his way up through stand-up and everything else. We all know Dylan Mulvaney. We know a version of Dylan Mulvaney. What I mean by that, Brian, is a person that went to every audition known to man and was willing to do anything to gain the relevance that Dylan Mulvaney is gaining.

Dylan was on, Dylan, on the Dylan side of this, was on Ellen.

Okay.

He was on The Price is Right. He was in the traveling version of the Book of Mormon. Drew Barrymore. Yeah. And Drew Barrymore.

And had literally auditioned for everything. Every open call, the open call. Opening of an envelope. Dylan Mulvaney was there.

So understand some.

So Dylan Mulvaney was famous before. Not famous, but as a man, was trying like heck to become famous, was auditioning for every open call on earth. And then probably about a year and a half ago, dawned on him, her as the relevance of TikTok was growing and influencers were gaining more clout. You know what would really get me some heat on Instagram is not being a goofy guy, but what if I just did this in a dress? It's trendy.

And that's really what this is. And we don't begrudge him, her their right to do it. That's not the issue here. People are not backlashing against transgenderism when it comes to Bud Light. They're backlashing against beer as the one thing we had left that didn't involve any of this.

Right. And you would think they'd be afraid to be able to do that. They should be, but that's why they're losing the money and they should lose the money. She trashed the audience. What is the number, Allison?

Do you know? Is it $5.8 billion they lost in market cap? Because the way I threw the money of a billion and million. But you have to count the empties. When you count the empty can, it's five cents a can.

Could you count the empties, Allison? Please, before we vote this other. Listen, when we come back, we'll find out what a loser Bud Light is, but specifically how much they lost. And will Jimmy ever drink beer again as a protest? We'll find out.

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So thank you all. God bless you all. Let's go lick the world. Let's get it done. Lick the world.

Lick the world. Lick the world. So Jimmy's here, Jimmy's set to do his shooking me failure. Jimmy's going to be at bananas in Rutherford on the 21st and 22nd. Rutherford, New Jersey.

Yes. Different. I want to make sure they go to the right Rutherford. Reading in Pennsylvania on May 6th. Clearwater, Florida on May 20th.

Davenport, Iowa on the 6th of June. On the 3rd of June, Saturday night, baby.

Now, what if we want to see you with Kennedy?

So, Kennedy and I, the Last in Liberty tour, that's what starts in May. That's Redding, Pennsylvania, May 6th. Water maintenance. Oh, okay.

So you didn't put her on there? Yeah, I just gave you dates. I'm sure she would have not put you on if she was on. No, no, she's pretty low maintenance. She's not you, Killmead.

One of the reasons I'm touring with Kennedy. Instead of me. You're the bigger diva. I don't think there's any question about that. Probably the biggest.

It's either me or John Scott.

Well, they call behind the scenes, they call Brian Diana Ross. A lot of people don't know that. And what's bad about Diana Ross? She's great. I love this report.

A lot to deal with, though. But what we were just learning about, this was a disastrous. It's so bad. This was disastrous, right? It's every Every w every event, every time they stuck a microphone near him.

Something weird happened. We're gonna go lick the world. Then you had that moment where the guy asked him what the key to success was. He didn't know the answer, so Hunter stepped in. He goes, He asked you about success.

And he goes, We gotta make sure nobody here has COVID. And they're like, wait, what? What just happened? There's an old movie called Hot Shots where they have this fading general. He's played by Lloyd Bridges, and they're like, How are you, general?

And he's like, Hawaii, shoot, I'm supposed to be in Oklahoma. That's our president. That's not good.

Well, the worst was Fetterman. Yeah. When he said, hello and good night, everybody. Yeah. Good night.

And he won. Listen, we cannot pass judgment on Fetterman until we see what type of senator his wife turns out to be. Right, you're right. For all we know, she's the best senator ever.

So, who can we expect in your radio show? Oh, today is a banger.

Okay, so there's a couple of things going on. Battle and Bill Hemmer is in the house, Bat and Leadoff, co-host of America's Newsroom. Charles McBee, who is the head writer for Charlemagne, Charlemagne the God, over on Comedy Central. And then our Friday headliners always playground politics with 14-year-old Lincoln Phalo. Your son comes on.

He comes on. He closes the show. And does your mom allow that?

Well, I'm going to lose custody someday if Jenny ever bails the kid. Your Honor, he had him on the radio. He took him to Reno. It doesn't end good. Jamie, it's great to see you.

The best. How many other shows are you going to be on today? Woo, today I'll be on Waters World a little bit later on in the day, and you'll see me on Dagon and Sean Duffy. Let's go. Perfect.

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