INDICTMENT: Jack Smith Files Stolen!

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And now, your host, Logan Sekulow. Welcome to Sekulow. Will Hangs in the studio, Jordan Sekulow, joining us live from Washington, D.C. We'll have an update of why he is there. Get an interesting ACLJ story going.

But look, there's a lot happening.

Some days we wake up and we're like, what are going to be the new stories? And today's one of those stories where we actually had to decide which we were going to lead with because there's two big ones that we are going to address on air today: an update of what happened. Remember with that Texas Democrat who essentially said, We're going to throw Zionists into, we're going to take the ICE detention centers and turn them in. to Prisons for Zionists.

Well, we have an update coming out of actually some good Democrats who've decided they're not going to take it. We also are going to discuss: well, this one's kind of fun. It's not fun. But of course there's always these like... Uh Silly espionage that's happening when you actually look at the details of this.

And this is a former DOJ prosecutor who was charged with stealing confidential documents. This is related to the Jack Smith investigation of President Trump and doing it in a way, because you think of physical documents, doing it in a way that this was digital and trying to hide their tracks clearly.

Well, once again, this is a managing assistant U.S. Attorney for the Fort Pierce branch of the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of Florida. Here's the irony here. This individual at the DOJ was stealing Sealed documents that were sealed by a judge, government documents.

Sending them to her personal email account to get them out of the government system, renaming them to disguise it, and the names are great. But what is the document she was stealing? It was the Jack Smith report on the classified documents issue.

So, one, there was a ton of issues with that prosecution because he was a former President. Did he declassify? There were genuine issues. Questions of legal merit when it came to that. And then he was Uh re-elected.

Judge Eileen Cannon dismissed the case and also ordered a seal of Jack Smith's report. Because it was no longer relevant. This individual was stealing a classified report. On the mishandling of classified documents. You can't make it up, people.

Some people are in the comments saying, Well, how are we still doing this day? Aren't these digitalized? This is a digital stealing. Right. To clarify, this isn't someone sneaking into an office stealing a stack of papers.

Right. And once again, but in theory, it kind of is. Right. Stole this from the government. Rename the file.

And emailed them to herself. And here are the names that she chose, hoping no one would look. In her defense, this is maybe not a bad idea, because I don't know if I would have looked at these files either, but they are kind of hilarious. But they were chocolatecake recipe.pdf and buntcakerecipe.pdf. I'm telling you though.

I may have wanted to know: is it a solid recipe? I would have wanted to see what was going on. If she's famous for bringing in these cakes to office parties, maybe I'd open it up and chat. We also know how even search works now. It searches through the documents.

It's not just the titles. But, Jordan, when you hear something like this, it's not that shocking, but it is. Crazy that this stuff is what's still going on. This is why it shocks me. It's that much worse when attorneys do this.

Okay, these aren't just like normal people who don't quite understand maybe the significance of legal documents. Was it classified or was it just confidential? It was never to see the light of day because the case was dismissed, because you cannot bring. cases against the sitting President, President Trump got re-elected.

So this attorney is going to be held to a much higher standard and should be because of what they've done here, this crime they've committed. Yep, absolutely. Look, we're gonna take your calls and comments on this, and again, we are gonna discuss. That uh leading candidate in Texas, and what happens when you say, Hey, I'm gonna round up all the Zionists, put them in jail, and then call them horrible names, and we're gonna do this. What happens?

You actually have some Democrats who go, That's enough, we're not gonna take it anymore. And maybe that is because they even see what happened to. Republicans. What happened in Kentucky with Thomas Massey? That you've gone too far.

And of course, some of these are obviously ones who have been more supportive of Israel. We're going to discuss that coming up. We also have Jeff Balabod from ACLJ Jerusalem joining us. You can be a part of the show too: 1-800-684-3110. We'll be right back.

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So, if you're ever trying to hide documents, do a little bit better of a job than relabeling it a chocolate cake recipe, a German chocolate cake recipe.

Well, that's not what the articles say, but someone in the break video specifically called it that. I'm like, well, how do they know precisely? Florida news files. Florida Local News decided it was a German chocolate cake. It had to have been.

Yeah, because when you opened it, did it start with like a cover sheet? Not according to the allegations. I think she just renamed the file. One of our Rumble ranters did say she's a recipe for disasters. Ah, boom.

Got her. I also see a lot of cake emojis and a lot of clown emojis. You know what? Send in the cakes. They would send in the birthday cakes through our, if you're on YouTube chat.

That being said, Jordan, we're going to talk a little more about this, but you're in Washington, D.C. Want to give an update on what's going on? Sure. We're in Washington, D.C. today because I was actually today moving in three of our Attorneys here at the office in DC, ones who are on the broadcast regularly, Christy, Olivia, and Nathan, to become members of the Supreme Court bar, which you do in front of the Supreme Court.

So you go before the court, I'm the movement.

So I introduce them, and then they are accepted in, they stand, they take their oath. And now they are members of the Supreme Court bar. Interesting to note today, this was not an argument day.

Now, there's still a lot of people come in for this just to see the Supreme Court, even if it's just in session for 15 or 20 minutes. And they are going into conference and they announce sometimes what they're in conference about. They are from, I was actually the last person to do the last movement today, and that was the last part of the business. And then They go right into conference after that. and it's a conference on our CNN case.

So they go, it just so happened, I was standing before the court and they're going, you know, right behind to their offices to meet together to possibly decide on whether or not to take the case, not take the case, or ask for, get, you know, more information on the case.

So it's a unique timing that got set up today. Yeah, I always wanted to say that the people understand the work of the ACLJ is so beyond whatever's happening in the news. Sure, we're going to cover that for you. We're going to talk about it. We're going to discuss what it looks like.

And look, we got even more coming up with, again, discussing what's going on in Texas. But the work of the ACLJ continues. The legal work is so extensive. And today, obviously, a good day for many of our ACLJ attorneys getting to become a part of the Supreme Court of the United States. That is the level that your team is working at in Washington, D.C.

And I want to make sure that we cover what's happening today, that that's not forgotten.

Well, and I do want to get back to that. Hey, guys, it is that reminder, too, guys, of the, of to all those justices, seeing those younger ACLJ attorneys that are coming up, seeing. Me, who I know a lot of them who when I was a kid, doing that and bringing in now a new group. And they're going back and discussing one of our cases, which is a major case. Case involving New York Times versus Sullivan and the idea of defamation and malice and public officials and who qualifies.

So big issues. And so all of that combined, you know, it sticks in people's minds. Those visuals do matter. And sometimes you have to wonder, there's other things at work here that bring that all together today.

Well, and Jordan, to that point as well, for some of our audience, you hear about state bars like the Bar of Tennessee or the Bar of Virginia. What does it specifically mean to be a member of the Supreme Court bar? That's not one you hear about as commonly talked about.

So maybe just to bring people up to speed, what does it mean? What is the Supreme Court bar?

So the Supreme Court bar requires a number of years of practice before joining.

So you can't join the bar until you have three years of practice. There's a couple of other things of requirements. And then you are able to, you're a direct officer of the court.

So, that would enable you to present not just file cases, but to actually present oral arguments.

So, most of us do that after we're working out of law school a handful of years. People don't always do it right away on the third year.

Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't, depending on the kind of legal work they do.

Sometimes you're there, and there's people who are in their 50s who have just decided they've wanted to join the bar. It also gives you a little bit more access to the cases. There's a special section.

So, when you've got big cases at the court, there's a special section that if you're a bar member, you can sit in. And so, you don't have to be in the same line that can stretch sometimes, you know, overnight.

So, there are benefits to that as well in the big cases.

So, it's something it's special. It's a special moment for the families. We had family members come to see this happen. And it was pretty cool for me to have our younger team ask me to be their movement today at the Supreme Court. Yeah, great moment.

And look, we're going to continue on our conversations as well. Because we know a lot of you are just tuning in right now. Maybe you saw that headline and said, Well, what are we talking about here? What are these Jack Smith files? And again, Jack Smith, someone who I said I'd rather not ever have to speak the name of again, but somehow just keeps creeping back in because our team can't get enough of Jack Smith news.

Well, once again, these things keep happening. And I know we've talked about this earlier in the week, actually. I think this comes full circle here because you earlier in the week, like, I'm also tired of saying deep state. Deep state. I'm tired of saying James Comey because these things, you feel like it should be gone.

But I want to replay what we led this week with. This is a bite from James Comey on Meet the Press. And what his kind of call to action. to people that work in government, that work in the DOJ, work in the FBI. Here is what he had to say to them.

Byte 1. If you're bragging about forcing out career prosecutors and agents because the President doesn't like a lawful investigation they conducted, something is seriously broken at the top. But I have great confidence in the people down below who are just trying to hang on. And I'm urging them, hang on two and a half years and then we can rebuild these institutions. But we need good people in those roles.

America does. And I feel like this former DOJ employee is the type of person that James Comey was addressing there, Jordan, trying to say, just wait two more years and we can change everything that this administration has done to our DOJ and FBI. In reality, as you mentioned, this was an attorney. This was a managing assistant U.S. attorney in Florida that should have known better about what she was doing, but she was stealing government documents.

They think they are, they hear these messages from their heroes like Jim Comey, and they think. Like him, they can somehow get away with it. And unfortunately, uh, they may not be as cunning or as uh you know, how he tried to have other people leak things and all those kind of issues. These individuals, I mean, are just stealing documents off computers. I mean, you know, documents that should not have ever seen the light of day, and they knew that, but they think they're doing the right thing, and they're trying to make it political.

And I think they're trying to send a political signal to their leaders that, yes, when there's a political change, you know, I'm the person who is willing to go to bat. I'm willing to do the make the hard decision. I don't know if they realize that they're going to end up in jail likely because of what they've done. I mean, this involves the President of the United States and an investigation that had to be closed because Presidents of the United States cannot be criminally investigated or charged with a crime. And so these documents and this report.

Never should have seen the light of day. It wasn't even necessarily finalized. We don't know. And so, again, he puts out those messages. and people go to jail.

Remember, Lois Larner did the same thing. She thought she was getting messages from President Obama and the other, the Obama team, to take these actions against, because members of Congress were telling the IRS to do that.

So she went and directly violated the law by targeting. only groups with a specific viewpoint, thinking that it would help her get a Better position that was politically appointed in the administration, that she would get some kind of better job or a longer-term job. It could be really impressive, as she called it, the political appointees and the Obama-Biden team. Those people have all gotten in trouble and lost their careers. In this case, may go to jail because they are taking those messages to heart and really doing what those leaders are saying, what those members of Congress said to do to those groups when it came to the Tea Party and conservative groups, and what Comey talks about when it comes to Donald Trump.

It's like, Normal rules, normal laws don't exist if it's Donald Trump's documents that shouldn't be released. And once again, this individual faces, I believe, up to 20 years in prison. This was someone who had a career at the DOJ, 62 years old, and she could be facing 20 years in prison, which is close to the rest of your life in prison because of these actions. But, Logan, I wonder this. Do you think?

That She was thinking of old time movies where people would uh break out of jail. and they would smuggle a file in a cake, Like a file to get out of jail. She was smuggling out of the DOJ a file, computer file. In a cake recipe. It's not very young.

I think there's some humor to the method here, maybe. Like, oh, this is clever. Yeah. I think this will be funny in hindsight. Maybe so.

I don't know. I feel like it's just someone who was like, hey. What are they not gonna search? Let's be real sneaky.

Well, a 60-something-year-old woman? Yes. Yeah. Of course, she's going to have some cake recipes on her hard drive. See, that's why I think people would be like, if they're concerned something was taken, they're like, well, while I'm here.

While I'm looking at these files that have been sent out, I'm going to check in on the chocolate cake, lemon pam cake stuff, just see what's going on. Exactly. While you're there, you got to look at the cake and see what's going on. With that, phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. I want to hear from you today.

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But we did want to also give an update. You know, yesterday we talked about that person running for Congress? Person running for Congress, right for Congress. Running Congress in Texas. And she said, you know what?

I'm I'm sick of the ICE detainment centers.

So what I'm going to do if I win, and by the way, this is the leading candidate. For the Democrats. I'm going to turn those in. to prisons for Zionists. And this was on an Instagram post.

This almost felt like an official campaign statement. And it was. I mean, it was on her Instagram. We're going to be turning it into a prison for American Zionists. and former ICE officers.

And then Pretty much declares that, how do we want to say it on the air? Because I know there's problems here, but essentially, most Zionists are child abusers, is what it essentially says in this text. This is your leading candidate for the Democrats in Texas right now for Congress. This is real. This is what we're actually dealing with in reality.

At the same time, you have someone like Thomas Massey who loses in an epic way and goes out. And who does he blame for his rural Kentucky County loss? He blames the Jewish community, blames Israel. And of course, everyone laps it up and loves it. you know, that's on that side.

But you know who's not? There's actually some Democrats that we have to give some credit to, Jordan. And these are people that we have known for decades now who have been our friends in real life. And of course, the few Democrats sometimes you can work with in Washington. I like how you said friends in real life versus friends just in politics.

But yes, Jared Moskowitz, he's a congressman. He's been on our broadcast before. He was actually for DeSantis, the governor, he was the emergency management director when COVID hit. And originally, he was going to be there mostly dealing with things like hurricanes and ended up dealing with COVID. And Florida had one of the better.

Programs on that. Remember, they did a lot of things with Publix and got things out very quickly.

So he's always willing to do the right thing with whatever the party of a person may be. And in this case, Jared has a very personal connection when you start talking about concentration camps because his grandmother's parents were killed in Auschwitz. His grandmother only made it out alive of Germany, which is the only reason he's here in Washington, D.C. as a congressman, because of a mission that was done by the UK that got about 10,000 Jewish kids out of Germany that kept them from the concentration camps. And I think, you know, one of the comments he said, I know he said some things about what they'll do politically, but one of the things he said in the media that I thought was really clear is that his kids.

His Jewish kids in the United States are never going to a concentration camp. And, you know, the fact that he has to say that And it's an actual statement that resonates because we're dealing with someone who really did. Say this and is getting some support for this. But they've also, Logan, we can play the bite from Jared. It's him with along with another Democrat congressman who is Jewish as well and speaks out on these issues.

There's not many left, unfortunately, because they are willing, if this person is to be elected, to try and have them expelled. And Jordan, this is one thing as well that I want to bring up because I love what Josh Gottheimer from New Jersey as well as Jared have said, where they said that they every single day If she is elected, They will force a vote to have her expelled from Congress because she does not belong in Congress, does not belong in their party. But here's the other problem: Hakeem Jeffries, the leader of the Democrats, is trying to say that she is a Republican plant. That she's being supported by Republicans to try and bring this. They won't acknowledge what is in their own party.

No, and we know it's in their own party, and Jared's talked about it before. He's talked about it publicly. He's played the voicemails he gets. He talks about it. And this, again, he happens to represent an area that has a large Jewish population, so he doesn't get it as much from necessarily his constituents as he does from those who are just anti-Semites that are watching cable news or television follow politics because he happens to be Jewish and support Israel.

See, it doesn't matter if you're a Democrat or Republican on this issue. A lot of people think it's somehow, you know, it's the anti-Israel thing is a left or right issue. It's now become a really just dangerous issue amongst a lot of people across the political spectrum. And this person is not a plant. This is a Republican-leaning district, but not one that's 100% always going to go Republican.

It could be close. And this is who Democrats nominated. Remember that. Democrats are choosing these candidates. To run.

I mean, the Republicans didn't choose this candidate. It's Democrats who are choosing them. That's right. And they still. She got the most number of votes for that.

And there is a runoff in five days. There's still a chance that she can be the right thing. But I also want to. Has she denounced it at all, by the way, guys? Like any kind of pushback, pullback?

Saying it's not all Jews, just Zionists that she wants to put in camps, which also includes a lot of Christians. You know, then it becomes political views. She gets to pick who goes to the concentration camp. It's disgusting. The party should kick her out.

She should resign. She should pull herself off the ballot. I mean, so many things are wrong with that. I just hope that the voters there in that runoff do the right thing.

Well, and Jordan, I think one thing to bring up is because you've had this conversation with Congressman Moskowitz. You've seen him on even Bill Maher's show talking about it, how it's gotten so entrenched in their party, but the Republicans better watch out. I think there is some positive moves of what we saw from like the primary in Kentucky, where Thomas Massey and then he showed his true colors that he immediately blamed Israel and the Jews. I think maybe it's the realization that we're dealing with a lot of bots here. Right.

You know, we're dealing with a lot of campaigns that are coming from foreign entities, places that do not want to see the America and Israel connection continue. And the proof ends up being At the ballot box. Yeah. Yes. And what Jared has said repeatedly to us as Republicans, he said, you know, not, is that.

Right now, you know, it's within, but it hasn't taken grasps. It hasn't taken hold. It hasn't become the norm. And you still have a chance to cut the cancer out. It hasn't metastasized.

It's metastasized in their party. And so that's a lot harder fight. Because when, you know, but we still have a chance to, when, when Massey kind of crossed over the edge from being a libertarian to being a Jew hater, he loses. And he goes out and he proclaims his Jew hatred and blames Jews. Like you said, Logan, in a rural Kentucky district, he was beaten by a former Navy SEAL.

Okay, a guy who really stood up to protect America. And he said, oh, you know, he's not even here. He's in Israel. I am so glad those people are gone. They don't represent America.

And they certainly don't represent the Republican Party. But it gets broader than that, Logan. This is a fight now we know we have to have, and it's a really nasty battle on both sides of the aisle, and we've got to route it out. And we have to route it out by like what you said. You route them out by not giving them bigger voices, like not getting them elected and making sure they don't get those offices.

Yeah, it actually could be a good week to do it. Let's look quickly before we go to break here. Let's actually hear, this is Representative Moskowitz on Fox News just this morning. This is literally wanting to do what the Nazis did in Germany. Let's start rounding up Jews and put them in camps.

And so listen, she doesn't belong in the Democratic Party. It went on and on, and again, of course, they made that a little bit more formal today, saying it is time that if this happens, they're going to take care of it. They're going to at least try to push the Democrats to do the right thing here, and you never know. Of course, look, but we got a second half hour coming up. If you want to comment about this, you want to comment about that Jack Smith file stealing, the blunt cake recipes?

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And now, your host, Logan Sekulow. Second half hour of Sekulow. Here we are. That break's always too short, Will. I feel like I can barely even catch my breath.

Specifically, one minute. It's one minute. I say less than a minute because by the time that I say that, it's like 59 seconds and I need just a sip of water. But here we are, folks. Second half hour of the show.

Coming up in the next segment, we're going to have Jeff Balabon head of ACLJ Jerusalem. And I'm going to take your calls and comments throughout the next half hour.

So if you want to call in, you can at 1-800-684-30110. Let's quickly re-hit, Will, the main topic that we were discussing. Then I want to do take a call if I have time. Jack Smith files stolen. Relabel Bunt Cakes.

Who did this? That's right. This was from a former managing assistant U.S. Attorney for the Fort Pierce branch of the U.S. Attorney's Office, Southern District of Florida, Carmen Leinenberger.

She stole this. This was a sealed document. This was not supposed to go public. This was sealed by a judge.

So this was done in defiance of Judge Eileen Cannon. This was the case related to the classified documents. Remember, they tried to make a whole scene of it. They laid them out in Mar-a-Lago and took the pictures and then pushed with the special counsel to try and bring This is an indictment against the President, really to try and get President Trump not elected again. When he was reelected, the judge said, you can no longer pursue this prosecution against a sitting President.

So she threw the case out and put a seal on this report because Jack Smith still wanted to get it out there. Wanted to get as much negative press for the President as he could.

So the judge put a seal on it. This individual within the Department of Justice thought it was okay. to take that sealed document, which was not for public consumption. and take it off of a government server. email it to her private email server.

And conceal that she was doing this, which shows intent, it shows she knew this was wrong. By renaming it Bunt cake recipe and chocolate cake recipe, both.pdf. You know, it wasn't a Word doc.

So it wasn't editable. It was just not even edible over there. It was near edible. My joke. I'm glad you got it.

Wasn't editable. It's a hard word to say. Anyhow, that's where we're at. She's been charged. She faces up to 20 years in prison.

And this all comes on the heels of, we saw James Comey still giving this call to why. Did they say why she wanted to?

So to do the indictment, it does not. It does not say the why she wanted to, but they also don't have to prove that. No, I'm not sure. I'm just curious more than anything of why you felt like this was worth risking your life in prison. Because you're already in your 60s.

You're talking about the rest of your life potentially in prison over stealing a document. Um That is really going to have what kind of impact on your life. Phone lines are open for you. We'll talk about that at 1-800-684-3110. We do have a lot of calls coming in.

Let's quickly go to Neil in Texas online too. Neil, go ahead. This is about the other issue, but go ahead. Yes, sir.

So you asked, do I think that social media is correct when they say There are a lot of people that are anti-Semitic, like this guy, Matthew. You know, I wish that it wasn't true. I think in my generation, absolutely not. But I when I was a little kid, when I saw Nikita Khrushchev bang his chew on the podium at the UN and say that he was going to conquer us from within. And since then, the anti God, anti American people have got a hold of the media, the National Education Association, and a lot of other organizations.

And so these kids Josef Goebel, Hitler's propaganda minister, said that Paraphrasing, he said: if you want to fool the people, make up the biggest lie you can think of and just repeat it over and over again. And the younger generation, 50s and down, and even older than that, perhaps, have been alive to all their lives. And they believe this stuff. You probably know that I think it was 85% of women in New York City between the ages of 18 and 25 voted for Mom Donnie. Neil, you know what's the most ridiculous part of all of it, too, is when it's the Thomas Masseys that are the libertarians that all of a sudden come up and start to blame all of their problems on Israel and all of America's problems on Israel and Jews.

The Libertarian Party is all about individual rights and personal autonomy. It's about individual responsibility. But all of a sudden the faux libertarians As soon as they find a scapegoat, someone they can blame, they blame... Jews and Israelis for all their problems instead of saying, you know what, I did this on my own. I lost all by myself.

Yep, phone lines are open for you. Thanks, Neil, for calling in. We have a few lines still open. We lost a couple callers here, so you should be a part of the show. 1-800-684-3110.

We'll be right back. Welcome back to Technical Movie. We talked just a moment by Jeff Balabon from Islam J. Jerusalem. Got a bit of a connection issue here, so we're going to get to that in just a moment.

We do have some phone lines open at 1-800-684-3110. To restate, though, what we are talking about here and why we thought it's important to have someone on like Jeff is. You remember yesterday we discussed that leading Congress candidate. In Texas, all of the Austin area, San Antonio area. Saying, you know what, I'm so sick of what's going on with Zionists.

and with Jewish people essentially. And she, of course, says that it's another one of those blood issues where the real Semites are not the people we're talking about here. We're talking about other people. But in this sort of rambled on Instagram post, Essentially, I said, I'm going to take the ICE detainment centers and turn them in to Zionist prisons. Of course, inferring uh Essentially, I don't know what happened a little less than 100 years ago in Germany, Poland, all those areas.

You may remember that. You may remember that from your history books. But now we're seeing it creep into American politics. And again, this is the person. Who is the leading candidate in this district for the Democrats in a district that could go blue?

It's not like a guaranteed red district. And you do have some people, some Democrats with some sense who maybe even, they're a lot of been long-term supporters of Israel, but also maybe they saw what happened with Thomas Massey. They can look at some of the writing on the wall, realizing maybe this online scenario that's being played out in front of us, where it feels like everyone in the world has become against the Jewish people, maybe that is not reality. And the votes are seemingly in Texas didn't, or the votes in Kentucky didn't lie. We will see what happens in Texas, but you at least have some Democrats saying, we're not going to allow this in our party.

Jeff, another disturbing day in American politics when this actually becomes a reality of what we're living in and what we're talking about from real legitimate candidates, not from some sort of fringe element that has no chance of winning. Yeah, 100%. And I was following the conversation before I got on air, and I agree with everything that's been said here. It's, you know, I refer back to the late chief rabbi of England, Jonathan Sachs, who is a beautifully articulate speaker, and he gave a presentation at the House of Lords when this started becoming an issue in England, which happened a little before it came here. And he said that anti-Semitism is a cultural virus that destroys entire cultures.

And you know, it becomes dangerous when three things happen. to the culture, not to the Jews, but to the country itself. When the idea moves from the fringes to a mainstream political party, well, now it's moved from the fringes to both mainstream political parties. When the party feels that there's no suffering or pain because of embracing the anti-Semitism, and when those who oppose it are vilified.

So it's already moved into both. Those who oppose it are being vilified. What has to happen now is there has to be pain. The political parties have to understand that mainstreaming this kind of crazy, it's truly insanity, dangerous violence insanity, is bad for the whole country, and the American people will not stand for it. Otherwise, It will destroy America.

Jeff, you know, it brings to mind the famous quote, post-Holocaust quote of the Then They Came for Me. And there was no one to speak. for me. Uh because when you even hear the language of What this candidate is saying, it expands who she is wanting to go after. It's not just Jews that she refers to as Zionist and plays those.

Mm. Thousand-year-old games that uh you know, the those Jews in Israel aren't real Jews, they're not real Semites.

So we know these are lies, but they keep rearing their ugly head everywhere we turn. But then she lumps that in with the Zionist, and that these faux Jews as well as Christian Zionists are who she's really talking about here. It's a dangerous game. And once again, you think back to the words that post-Holocaust when you didn't stand up. You didn't you thought it's not my problem.

It ends up coming for you. And we have the The good news this week that someone like Thomas Massey, who was unable to succeed within his own party when he was primaried, and he showed his true colors, immediately said what. He was thinking in his concession speech and blamed Israel. We know that that was defeated on the Republican side. There's a chance for Democrats to still do this, but I feel like the Overton window of what is possible in American politics is getting dangerously close to.

We already have the Rashida Tlaibs and the Ilan Omars that say these in cloaked language. But now you're getting dangerously close to having a member of Congress who will say this in uncloaked language, and that's scary for the United States. It's absolutely right. It is just a progression. It started really, it started with.

Honestly, the progression was: let's say we like Israel. This is on the Democrat side, but we don't like Netanyahu. Then it was, well, we're okay with Israel. We don't like the Likud party, his party. Then we like Israel.

We don't like their policies in general because those are consensus policies. Then, once October 7th happened, everything got supercharged. And all of a sudden, it became open season just on Jews around the globe. And all of a sudden, all of the euphemisms and the political talk just fell by the wayside. And now it's the genuinely insane, angry, we want to blame the Jews, we want to escape with the Jews, we want to kill them, is coming out around the world in our own nation.

It's being mainstreamed. And listen, I hope that among the reasons Thomas Massey lost was that he became so unhinged because of his anti-Semitism. I don't know if that's the case. I mean, the vice President spoke about his hostility to the Republican Party and to the President. Maybe that was the reason more than.

That is anti-Semitism. I hope, though, it's that voters are decent and normal and see this problem arising. But we don't know. And coming up on a midterm election, it is so important that people vote our consciences for decency and morality in this country. Yeah, Wheelie said it certainly wasn't the thriving rural Kentucky Jewish voter base that voted in that, that somehow turned this all around, that was being funded.

But Jeff, you know, this brings up an interesting topic. I was listening to an interview with a mutual friend who I'm not going to name names, but is a Jewish American. It was actually two guys who were talking. One of the discussion points was the word Zionist and how Zionist, the term, has become a dirty word. and what we can do about that or what we should do about that.

And they kind of suggested even this again, I'm not taking this side, saying, you know, the the swastika before that was was a Hindu term logo of peace. And now, if you he's like, if I see someone wearing that, I'm gonna punch him in the face, essentially what they said. And then followed up with maybe we need a new term. And they were like sad about it. It was like, this is the point where we're at, where these words that have historically meant something very positive for the Jewish people, we all grew up with it, now have become.

Words that mean something they were never intended to be. And I think that's just an interesting thing we have to come to. Realize As Americans, as people that do support Israel, and what that looks like, because they have taken that word and dismantled it for a lot of people. Like you said, they're using it as a slur. Yeah, look, it's interesting that you raised that.

You and I haven't discussed this, but I'm in the middle of a major memo, which may become a lawyer viewpiece, for a conference that I'm attending in Israel in June, God willing, relating to these issues. And this argument is about Zionism as a concept, as a term. Obviously, it just means Jew right now for people. And they just, when they say they're anti-Zionists, they just mean we hate Jews. And they don't care about Israel's policy.

They just hate Jews. It's just the old thing. This has happened before. Globalists. These are words that have meanings that get turned around.

My view is actually we need a different name for anti-Zionism because anti-Zionism isn't about Zionism at all. It has nothing to do with Zionism. It's proxy anti-Semitism. It's proxy-Jew hatred. It's just another excuse.

And so I think we should have a different word for that. But yes, it's always using an excuse. People, you frequently will talk about. Bankers or globalists, you know, over the years, that's always, there's always been another word when they mean the Jews. That's a good point.

The anti-Zionism statement is actually interesting because I saw some people that I follow attending an anti-Zionism conference, and it was actually very confusing. I was like, wait, what am I actually like? When I read that title, I was like, but wait, it's it's Shapiro and it's Eve Barlow and people who I follow and respect. I'm like, wait, where are they at an anti-Zionism conference? But it's a conference on anti-Zionism.

It was so confusing. Yeah, they could have a bit better. Yeah, exactly. But Jeff, we only have about a minute left here, but I did want to get very quickly because this week you were, you spoke at a task force to combat anti-Semitism. And that shows just the work even here and in Israel, the work that you're doing for the ACLJ to fight back against this.

Right. I came into Washington for this conference. It's the National Task Force to Combat Antisemitism. It is a national group. People from the administration came and spoke, spoke very, very well.

It is not a Jewish group. I mean, there are Jews involved, but the one thing I will say, some people are saying it's only the fringes. It's not the mainstream. I hope they're right. But we have to be vigilant because I feel like they may be wrong.

But yes, that's the work we do. And whether it's in America or and we're going to be soon in Europe on the same issue, it's really globally. It's post-October 7th. It's the rise of the normalization of insanity, of wanting to literally eliminate all Jews everywhere. That's what we're seeing.

And America cannot fall prey to that. Thank you, Jeff, for joining us. We appreciate it. We know it's always good to hear your insight. Again, Jeff Balabon, head of ACLJ Jerusalem.

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We do have a few lines open. If you still want to get on hold, 1-800-68-4-31-10, we do have a breaking news item. I think we need to address really quick. I'm sure we'll discuss this on a later show, a little bit more details. But there's currently a press conference going on right now in Minneapolis about that fraud.

Really, schemes that have been happening. We know about it. Massive fraud coming out of Minnesota. And we actually have more details. Will right now.

I mean, this is breaking as we are live. That's right. There is an Assistant Attorney General for Fraud Enforcement, Colin McDonald, giving a press conference right now. Right behind him is RFK Jr., the Health and Human Services Secretary, as well as you see Dr. Oz, who's Medicaid and Medicare Administrator.

Here's what we're seeing. 15 individuals have been indicted for over $90 million in alleged health care fraud scheme in Minnesota. This is a sweeping FDI investigation with the DOJ. It is two of the largest Medicaid fraud cases ever charged in that district. It has seven additional Medicaid programs that were used in this fraud.

This is all from a tweet from the director of the FBI. Minnesota public health care resources were defrauded to the tune of tens of millions of dollars, targeting programs such as housing stabilization services, child care, Medicaid programs, individualized home supports, as well as a scheme worth over $40 million. That targeted early intensive developmental and behavioral intervention. That's a program meant to help children that have autism. And they were using that to siphon $40 million from taxpayers.

I just, you start to see this, and we've seen it in California. You see more and more out of Minnesota. That's where, even today, the defendant that was in the Feeding Our Future, that was charged with $250 million of fraud, was just sentenced to 41 and a half years in prison. The amount of fraud in our healthcare system, people on the left. that pushed so hard for Obamacare.

And that said, that was such a great program. When the reality of what Obamacare did to get more people insured was expand Medicaid. That was the largest amount of people that got coverage under it. What do we see now? Where is all the fraud?

It's in Medicaid. It was at expansion without the proper guardrails on it. That has led to them stealing taxpayer dollars to billions of dollars. And here's the other problem with it. Everyone else is suffering.

It's not just taking your taxpayer dollars. It's this entire program that has created a way that's driving up every single person's healthcare costs. When people say healthcare is unaffordable in this country, It's not just because of the way the insurance systems work and we need tort reform, things of that nature, which we've been saying for a long time. It has exploded. Exponentially, because of the ways that fraud is so easily done, and therefore, all these insurance companies have to raise their rates, the prices of things have to go up.

It's not just taking your hard earned taxpayer dollars. It's hitting you twice because every single person's health care costs are skyrocketing. And it all goes back to one thing, and that is the disaster that was Obamacare. Yeah, absolutely. I do want to take some phone calls if we can.

Let's go to William, who's calling in California. William, go ahead. Yeah, thank you for taking my call. Yeah, in regards to the lady who disguised all the things she took and all the documents as cake recipes and such, I know you're being polite when you say, well, she probably didn't know what was going on or what she was doing. Yes, she did.

I'm 83 years old. I've been around a long time. The people I've met in my lifetime, it's unbelievable. She knew exactly what she was doing there. She wouldn't have tried to disguise them in the first place.

Clarify, I don't think we ever said 100% agree with you. We said exactly what you're saying. And Jordan even said, she's an attorney. She was a managing assistant U.S. attorney in the Southern District of Florida.

She knew exactly what she was doing. It makes it that much worse because, as a high-up attorney in the DOJ, And even the content of what it was, she knew the consequences of it. As well as It shows that intent that she renamed the files. If she didn't know what she was doing, I just forwarded it to my personal email address. No big deal.

No. She knew exactly what she was doing. She renamed the files. In order to conceal the contents thereof, so I agree with you 100%, William. William, thank you for showing me.

She knew. And thanks for watching on YouTube. Again, let's go to Leslie, who's calling in Virginia. Leslie is an ACLJ champion. Leslie, you're on the air.

Hello, um, I think it's a good question. ACL uh champion and Zionist.

So I'm gonna Kind of avoid going to Texas. But what I wanted to tie in what you're saying today with what you said. I think it was Monday or Tuesday. Yeah. If you believe the premise that our rights come from man and man's law.

then you can justify what she's saying in Texas. you can justify uh desegreg uh the segregation laws, the Jim Crow laws of the uh nineteen sixties But if you believe that Your rights come from the Creator. then you have to believe that all men are created equal and have certain rights And nobody can take those away No man can take it. I think that's an exactly great analysis of what we talked about earlier when Katie Tur said, was trying to call out the Speaker of the House and saying, is he putting God above the Declaration of Independence? And the entire premise of if we stray from how the founders set this up.

Then you are correct. If laws come from government, if rights come from government, then that is at the political whim of the fickle government. But in reality, because they come from God, And if we hold fast to that. then our country can course correct. When it has not lived up to those principles.

As you mentioned, segregation, the history that we have in this country where we didn't live up. to what our principles are, you can course correct. As long as you're going back to that same principle, that all men are created equal and that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights. Being life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

So yes, we need to course correct. Back to the foundation. Take quickly, try to take Eric in Pennsylvania. Eric, go ahead, watch it on Salem News Channel. We've got about a minute left, Eric.

Yeah, our my comment is that the rest is so anti-Semitic they hurt themselves. Pamela Harris should have picked Shapiro for Vice President. I'm not saying they would have won unless you got laryngitis, but they'd have been much closer. You know, and it and it just makes it makes no sense. Um Shapiro's running for governor.

They might not go out and vote for him because he's Jewish. It's crazy. Eric, I'm not sure about the one comment there, but the rest of it, I think you're right. And we know it was pretty much stated in her book and some of the books saying that spivily Shapiro was not picked with a concern because he was Jewish. And look.

Again, like I said, social media would tell you that that was the right move. But you know what didn't? The votes in Kentucky. You know what's looking like it's not going to be? The Democrats who are going to stand up against what's going on in Texas because they know it could mean a political end for them.

And they also maybe have some moral backbone, hopefully. We're going to discuss that.

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