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The podcast discusses the current state of US-China relations, the 2024 presidential election, and the ongoing conflict in Ukraine. The hosts also touch on issues such as border security, the economy, and the national debt. They interview various guests, including Congressman Buddy Carter and Dr. Drew Pinsky, to provide different perspectives on these topics.

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From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Killmead. Hello, welcome to the latest moment to the Brian Kill Meet Show.

So glad you're here. Congressman Buddy Carter just came up in the elevator with him. He's going to be on with us shortly from Georgia. He's got a lot going on today, including with tackling with China, TikTok, as well as he's got his own. Vehicle data access caucus going, so it's going to be interesting.

I think most people can relate unless you're talking on our subway system here. And then, of course, we'll take your calls. And you can always write me, briankillme.com. Just click on comments, it'll come right to me.

So let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three, sponsored by Crunch Fitness. Interested in owning your own business in a growing $30 billion industry? Check out CrunchFitness at Crunch.com. Number three. This is alarming, though, because just yet another example of how Joe Biden and so many Democrats will rally the banners and man the ramparts to defend Chinese communists.

That's exactly what happened on the coronavirus in early 2020. That's what happened last month. Here you go. That is Senator Tom Cotton. Relations with China reach a new low, and tensions between nations have never been so high.

Although China's evil regime steals, cheats, and tortures, President Biden told us he knew how to handle President Xi. What happened? Number two. And I go, I would vote for Trump before I'd vote for Biden. Just because I think with Biden, like, he's no, he's gone.

Like, you know, he's gone. You're going to be relying on his cabinet. And I knew his cabinet would be this. Sideshow of diversity. And it's 100% true, Joe Rogan, 2024.

Joe is sounding more like a candidate. Again, as Rogan points out, what even Dem seemed to know at 80, he's shot. While Trump at 78 seems ready for a rematch, can anyone on the right step up and stop the former president, or should they? We'll examine. Number one.

I have made clear how I felt about the update to the criminal code. One of them was to allow dangerous murderers and rapists to get out of jail early. That was opposed by many people, including me. Lawlessness, the last legs from DC, Easy on Crime Bill's demise on the crackdown on Antifa's raid on Copland in Atlanta. Americans are showing they're ready to bask, support the blue again.

Will Dems wake up to this reality? Let's discuss it.

So, what am I talking about?

So, there's this huge. training center that's being built uh outside Atlanta. And it's a place where police officers can get the best training in the world. It's actually financed by a police foundation, and it's cutting edge. It's been the target now of two attacks, including one that happened on Saturday.

Guys and some women, dressed in masks, go ahead and firebomb Olotov cocktails and took and just attacked in an organized fashion, in an organized way. This seems like to be an Antifa operation. They arrest just about 35 people. I want to unwind what is going on here. I want to find out.

who's financing this, how they can afford to do it, why they seem to be targeting cops, and why no one seems to be actually from Georgia. Think about that. All these attacks happen and no one's actually from the area as far away as France.

So a worldwide operation Canada too, around the country as well. And that is not a terror group, right? The FBI director said Antifa is more of an idea. That is, of course, if you're the person on the person on the other end of being firebombed, your cop car blown up or you're being physically attacked, or at least you have to arrest somebody that is more than an idea. What is the deal with that?

I'm encouraged that people seem to be outraged by it. What I'm really struck by is that the administration's press secretary didn't even know anything about it. She came out and said, you know, I haven't really been following that. You haven't been following that? Are you kidding me?

You see people swarm a police academy. You haven't been following it. But if there's an incident that happens to be controversial, then a potty cam. Video emerges, that becomes a worldwide incident. But here you have an attack on an entire academy still being constructed, and it seems to have not hit your top 10 things to read list.

To me, that is absolutely nuts. It is incredible. And to me, it just shows that anybody who thinks the Democrats have found and seen the light when it comes to law enforcement have a long way to go. Here's Gabrielle in the Dallas. Gabriel was on last night on Primetime, Cut5.

Well, you know, I'm surprised they published a memo. I'm sure they got a copy a long time ago because when you look at a lot of these organizations, from New York Times to CNN to many others, many of them defended Antifa time and time again. The New Yorker would write an article titled On the Streets with Antifa that was very pro-Antifa and it was very favorable coverage all around.

So the fact that that manual is, did they really even need it? They were already being a professional PR team for Antifa in a lot of different anarchist groups because they really believe in their mission, albeit they may not say it out loud.

So That was a former Antifa member, and they can't believe they're getting a pass on this. If it was another major organization, it was Proud Boys or any of these other idiotic groups, believe me, it would have been worldwide coverage. But we don't even get it outside Fox. It's crazy or outside local Atlanta news. Where is the mayor?

Why isn't she outraged by what's happening? Matt Bass, an attorney representing some of the defendants, said this: The state of Georgia has shamefully chosen to pursue domestic terrorism charges against environmental activists engaging in First Amendment protected speech and civil disobedience. My clients will vigorously defend the constitutional rights and look forward to their day in court. Oh, you'll get your day in court.

Some of these idiots, one of the reasons they did is they wanted to keep the forest there. They're cutting back the forest. What I would do is I'd make that foundation public. I'd put it on a GoFundMe page, and I'd say, look, not only would you need to fix the damage done, I want to make it bigger. Let's double the size of it, make it be a national academy where people come from small towns across America to get elite training, which, by the way, would be a pretty good idea.

We'll talk about that. The other big thing is: remember, we told you about the D.C. crime bill, the crime bill that went out of the way to make things easy on criminals, whether it was a jury trial for misdemeanors or whether it was less time for murders. It was so ridiculous. The Democratic mayor said, I don't support this.

They overcame her veto after she vetoed it. And then the White House stepped up and says, I'm going to support the Republicans who are blocking it.

So, you know what they're doing now? They're rescinding it. They're taking it back. I don't even think they're allowed to do that, to take it back after they put it out.

So police chief Robert Conti, who obviously is against it, talked about how dangerous this would have been cut too. What would you say to this idea that D C is more dangerous than other cities? I travel to cities and talk to chiefs of police all across the country. That's just emphatically not true. But the mayor knows it would, it is true, and knows it would get worse, cut one.

I have made clear how I felt about um the update to the criminal code. One of them was to allow dangerous murderers and rapists get out of jail early.

Now you can support that policy. I don't have a problem with that. We have one for people going up to the age of twenty four. You can support it, but don't cram it into a bill. Uh that was opposed by many people, including me.

So, the Democratic mayor, the Democratic president, the problem is the president and the White House did not communicate to the Democrats in the House who voted against the Republicans' effort to block this from happening.

Now, why is it even an issue? Federal government in D.C., because Washington, D.C. is not a state and it shouldn't be. Constitutionally, it never should be, even though the Democrats are trying to do that. And why would they do that?

Because most likely it's all Democrats and they'd get an extra state in their quiver, and that would not be something Republicans would or should sign off on.

So there you go. Real quick, on 2024, I was discussing this with Congressman Buddy Carter and what's going to be happening. On 2024, it seems pretty clear by the tone of Joe Biden yesterday speaking to the firefighters' union that he is running. And he's talking about those horrible rich people and raising taxes, cut eight. I'm a capitalist, you want to go make a lot of money, go do it, but at least pay something.

So we put an incredible burden on them. We made them pay fifteen percent. Tax. That's less than you you got you guys pay a hell of a lot more than that. And guess what?

We were able to afford everything and still cut the deficit. Republicans are not going to go to bat for billionaires. They don't support them anyway, but they're just going to go back for fairness. And they don't. The thing that's different about Democrats and Republicans, the Republicans don't resent billionaires.

They love the fact that they take their money and they want to encourage them to invest it, buy that building, grow that business, expand those franchises because it brings more jobs, more mentorship, more opportunity. That's why. Successful people, when you get it the right way, are Are encouraged to invest, and a lot of time that results in tax breaks. It doesn't mean you like rich people more than others, but the people with capital are the ones that grow the economy, that provide opportunities for you, me, and everybody else. That's the difference.

But if you turn out they're paying 1% in tax, Republicans should not stand in front of that train. Congressman Buddy Carter's next. He'll talk about all that, including a flat tax that he would just charge straight across the board. He also is on the Budget, Energy and Commerce Committee. This is the Brian Killmey Show.

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You're with Brian Kilmead. Congressman Buddy Carter is right here. If you're watching Fox Nation, you can see him. He's on the Budget Energy Commerce Committee. Joins us now.

A trip out of Georgia, not in Washington. Congressman, thanks for coming in. Thank you for having me. I mean, first off, the President yesterday is talking about raising taxes. Again, he said, I'm going to raise taxes.

Does that worry you that one of the big things of the Trump era was the tax reform, and it looks like this president wants to undo it? Oh, absolutely. And I'm convinced if you look at his policies, particularly as it relates to the southern border, you'll see that he wants to do just the opposite of what Donald Trump wanted to do. If if you look at the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, we had this economy I mean, that really was a stimulus that got our economy going. And the first thing he did when he got into office was declare war on fossil fuels, declare war on American energy.

Are you worried about the Willow Project up in Alaska? Absolutely. Absolutely. And, you know, when he did away with the Keystone XL pipeline, would have been up and running around this week. Exactly.

And, you know, we need that. We need that to get our economy going again. We all know that energy independence is important to national security. We understand that. Except for this president doesn't understand it.

I mean, this war on fossil fuels that has led to the prices in gasoline, and it's unbelievable. The State of the Union address, this President wants to blame high gas prices on the fact on big oil and gas because they have not invested. In the infrastructure for the future, when he sits there and says we're only going to need oil and gas for about 10 more years and then we won't need it anymore. It would create laughter in the room. Unbelievable.

Right.

So, how do you feel? You presented something relatively controversial to some, the Fair Tax Act. Exactly. So it would just say 30% across the board.

Well, it's actually 23%. It's actually 23%. It's a consumption tax. It's fair, it's flat, it's simple. And in this way, You would control how much you're going to pay in taxes.

If you're going to buy a boat, you're going to pay taxes. You don't want to pay taxes. You would take a place of an income tax. Exactly. And, you know, look, people don't like taxes, but they much prefer a consumption tax over a payroll tax or over an income tax.

And that gives them control. And that's why the establishment doesn't like it, because they lose control. Right now, they control you. They can decide what they want to give you credit for and not give you credit for. And a consumption tax, you decide.

If you want to buy a boat, you're going to pay taxes. If you don't want to pay the taxes, don't buy the boat.

So the President made a cartoon of it and said, look, these guys want to give you a flat tax. They want to give you a VAT tax.

So how do you feel about that?

Well, it certainly brought attention to it. And when the President dishes on it, then certainly that brings attention to what we are trying to do. I mean, let's face it, look at Florida, look at Texas. Both of them have consumption taxes. They don't have the income tax.

They are doing fine. Two of the strongest economies in the world right there. And they are doing fine. The reason that the establishment, the reason that the Democrats, the administration are against this is because they lose control, because this gives control to the consumer. You decide how much you want to pay in taxes.

I do want to talk about what happened to Atlanta over the weekend. Can you believe the press secretary didn't even know about it? You have dozens of people in black masks and outfits in coordination, firebomb, which now is dubbed Copland, an expansion of an police academy, financed by a foundation, and it's not even turning heads in the White House. Why is that? Is it a big deal in Georgia?

It is a big deal in Georgia. It should be. And the irony of this is that it shows just how important it is that we have police protection, that we have training for these police officers. This is an example of why we need this so badly. And, you know, look, we are a country of law and order.

And if we don't have law and order, then we're not going to be a country at all. I've been in New York City here for the last 24 hours, and I've met with some people. And one of the things they pointed out to me is how reassured they are because of the increased police presence on the subway system. And that's very important to them. And we need to have that in our country.

People need to feel safe when they go out of their homes. And cops have to be vilified. We've got to pay them more. We've got to train them better. And we've got to get more of them.

People don't want to do it. You see stuff like that? You're going to tell me some parents have a 19-year-old walks in and says, mom, dad, I want to be a cop, and they see that on video being firebombed, mild cocktails, police cars blown up and targeted. They're going to go, no, try to do something else. That's why the trend.

The morale is so low now with our public safety, and who can blame them? I mean, as you point out, who would want to do that anymore? Protect ourselves. I mean, it's just unbelievable. We know the troubles you guys had in picking Kev McCarthy as speaker.

Have the wounds heal? Among all factions of the Republican Party, where they can be productive. They are healing. There is still a process. There is still a healing process.

You live from day one. I have. When I first got to Congress, I have been a big fan of Kevin McCarthy's, and I continue to be. And I think Kevin is the leader that we need right now. He is the one who can pull us together.

We have a big tent. We have a very diverse group. There is no question about that, with a lot of strong minds, and that is okay. But we all believe in the same thing, and we all are after the same common goal, and that is to make America great and to continue to make America great. What about these investigations?

I mean, there are some stories that Jim Jordan was our guest on Friday, has got so much on his plate. He is doing the weaponization of government as well as the oversight, and it might be too much. Have you heard that? I have full confidence in Jim Jordan. He can handle a lot of people.

No question about that. But there is a lot to be had here. There is a lot to go over.

Now, we have other talent out there, too. Jim is not the only talented one we have in Congress.

So we have other people who are working on those committees, the weaponization of the DOJ or of the FBI. All of those are important. It is important for Americans to understand to get the bottom of this. Right.

We watched Ron DeSantis stand up to corporate America and take on Disney. And since that time, we have not seen Corporate America really get involved that much in politics like they did in your state when it came to the All-Star game, Delta Airlines, and everything like that, when they misconstrued the election law reform. What do you think corporate America should know about this? I think that they have learned an important lesson. I have met with Delta, I have met with Koch, and both of them have said that from now on, we are going to tread this very lightly, and we are not going to just jump out like we did before.

I think there are some regrets there. I'm not speaking for them, but at the same time, I think they've learned an important lesson. You know, they don't need to get involved in these types of things, and I think they understand that now. They feel the pressure from employees. Absolutely.

In some cases, the next generation. And sometimes I felt like they were blaming it on employees. This is what our employees wanted us to do.

Well, come on, guys. You're the ones who are. Who's the boss? Exactly. Exactly.

All right.

So, listen, Congressman, thanks so much. Buddy Carter's got a busy day in New York. Stay safe. Stay in your Uber. And, of course, good luck in Washington.

I know that there's a lot of pressure on you guys to be productive because without that, it's going to be tough keeping the House and winning back the Senate, even though the map is favorable for you. For your immediate plans, what are you looking at? I'm looking at continuing to work on the Energy and Commerce Committee on prescription drug pricing on 230 and the Internet and what we can do. And maybe running for Senate one of these days. Hopefully.

We'll see. Or who knows, Governor. Congressman Buddy Carter, thanks so much. Thank you. Jackie Heinrich in Washington next.

The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmead. And I go, I would vote for Trump before I'd vote for Biden. Just because the thing with Biden, like, he's no, he's gone. Like, you know, he's gone.

It's you're going to be relying on his cabinet. And I knew his cabinet would be this. Sideshow of diversity, which is exactly what it is. I mean, let that one person who stole all the women's clothes, that Sam Brinton we highlighted on the podcast yesterday, like that's a diversity hire. You just said, oh, look at this.

A man who dresses like a woman and has a beard and a mustache, but also wears lipstick. This is perfect for us. I don't give a f what this guy's good at or bad at. I don't give a f what their credentials are. This makes us look like we're inclusive.

This makes us look like we're on the right side.

So let's hire this person. That is one of the most powerful voices in the country. Joe Rogan says talking about President Biden, who's about, according to the AP, I believe, in Reuters, has a 41% approval rating and seems to be closer and closer to declaring to run for re-election. How close is it? Jackie Heinrich joins us now from Washington, our Fox News White House correspondent.

Jackie, welcome back. Hey, thanks, Brian. Thanks for having me. Hey, so there's a sense sometimes inside Republican circles that the President lost his fastball, and he will be 82 by the time if he does win reelection, 86 by the time he's done. Is there a Plan B that you've heard that's got some Uh got some uh juice behind it.

No, definitely not. All of my sources expect Biden to run. He's been saying that he intends to run. I mean, you heard the first lady a couple of weeks ago during her trip to Africa say, what do you guys have to hear to believe it he's running? It's more of this speculation about why he hasn't made his announcement yet.

Now, I know that there was an expectation. A few months ago, that he might make that campaign announcement sometime shortly after the State of the Union.

Sources I tell me that that was never really the Target date. It was always going to be sometime after, meaning it could be a few months after. And they've always been looking at April, which is sort of, I guess, when Obama had announced, and that's sort of their marker internally. But there are reasons for that. They wanted to, after the State of the Union, let Biden have his moment, talk about what he's done in the first half of his term, then do this 20-state blitz where he was going to tout his achievements, which I don't think they actually hit 20 states.

I think they hit like six so far.

So they're going to re-up that effort. They wanted to get through the first year of the Ukraine war anniversary, have him, you know, talk about his efforts to keep NATO aligned, et cetera, et cetera. And then the other side of it was they wanted to watch what Republicans did and basically find a line of attack that they could use in his next campaign. And I think the Social Security and Medicare stuff really kind of fell apart at the State of the Union. They've been doing a little reshuffling there, but all indicators tell me that they're on for.

for April, um, vaguely around that time, but it but that it will happen and that there's no no one else down the pike that's you know being considered at all. And and what about the you think the ticket's intact too? Yeah.

So when the President sees or when you see the Wall Street Journal story and you see the comments that come out from China, I've never seen anything quite like this, this direct from the Chinese leader himself. He came out and says Western countries led by the U.S. have implemented all-around containment encirclement and suppression against us, bringing unprecedented severe challenges to our country's development. He really blames us behind it. And it looks as though he seems as confrontational as ever.

In the big picture, you can't control China's actions, but wasn't this President Bill as somebody who had this relationship that was going to bring a maturity to foreign policy that wasn't there before? I mean, you can't say that between Russia, Ukraine, Iran and China that things are going well. No. And I think it's also notable that after Biden ordered the Chinese spy balloon shot down and he finally made some remarks on that after leaving everyone wondering what was really going on for 10 or so days. And he said, I plan to talk to Xi Jinping sometime soon.

That didn't happen. I know that the State Department, you know, Anthony Blinken talked to his Chinese counterpart on the sidelines of the security conference, and that was sort of going to be a marker of where things stand. If that conversation didn't end up happening, it would have been a really bad reflection of the state of U.S.-China relations. But it did. And so now the question is: when is that President Xi, President Biden conversation going to happen?

You know, I find it. significant that Biden said that it would. And then suddenly, it's just sort of a question that's lingering out there. Will it happen? When will it happen?

Is he does he plan for it to happen? The White House said a few days after that, there wasn't a formal ask From the White House, and then they, you know, sources said, Well, we first want to see if we can get the diplomats to talk. But now that we're at that point, you know, where do they go next? And I I think there are a lot of things weighing on the China situation right now with respect to the Ukraine invasion. I know that the officials here at the White House have been warning for some time that they are concerned that China is going to provide lethal aid to Russia.

Every time they raise that concern, they make note that it hasn't happened yet and that Chinese haven't made their decision yet. And I interviewed John Kirby last Friday and I said, Can I read into this? The fact that you guys were considering downgrading intelligence to prove that they were considering providing lethal aid because they've been denying it. And you've been raising the alarm that this concern is real and yet you haven't downgraded that intelligence. And every time you talk about it, you say, but they haven't yet.

Am I supposed to read into this and think, okay, there's still a real chance that maybe they won't? And you're giving them space to do that in your foreign policy speak. And he said his answer to me was telling it was, we hope that China does the right thing.

So I think that there are a lot of sort of balls in the air right now, but I I don't know that the American voter necessarily pays attention to the granular details there and can read between the lines of how diplomats talk to each other and sort of get a a clear assessment of where things stand. I think that you know from The G20 meeting on the sidelines of the G20 to the spy balloon and any number of other challenges between the President and President Xi on coronavirus origins and everything else. I mean, it has not been by any measure a a good reflection for Joe Biden's strength as a President.

So he's got some stuff to prove. And it's definitely going to be an issue in the twenty twenty four campaign and certainly one that Republicans will seize on. Sure. And I noticed that Chinese Foreign Minister, same thing: quote: If the U.S. does not hit the brakes, but it continues to speed down the wrong path, no amount of guardrail can prevent derailing, and there will surely be conflict and confrontation with China and Russia working together.

The world will have a driving force. The more unstable the world becomes, the more imperative it is for China and Russia to steadily advance their relations. And then you could factor in Iran there and the relationship that's growing between the attack drones and now the missile technology that Russia seems to be providing to them.

So the world seems to be dividing before our eyes. Germany meeting with the President, some encouraging words that there will be retribution if China gives lethal aid to Russia. But what would that be in a united Europe denying the market for China?

Well, China's got a say in that too, because there's a lot of German manufacturing there, as there is American manufacturing there. I wonder if American business is getting the message and watching this, because I can never remember. Uh things as uh as heated as this. I think it was significant that you had the German Chancellor at the White House last week, and there was no press conference, and that they both have a sort of different approach to China. Chancellor Schultz has said that he wants China to mediate a peaceful settlement to the Ukraine war, and the Biden administration is talking about potentially enacting sanctions against China.

These are two different approaches. Sanctions will be tough for Germany to swallow. They're, you know, China's their number one trading partner. At the same time, you know, I think that the Ukraine war should have been a wake-up call to all of Europe. They're in an energy crisis.

They're also now in an ammunition and arms crisis. They're having to consider stockpile concerns if they want to. keep this, you know, Russia's footprint within Ukraine, not let it go into NATO territory. But as they're pledging all of this aid, you know, the speed with which things are delivered and and speed with which Ukraine can actually make a a shift. Like, turn the tide of this war has really been a wake-up call.

And I think. You heard Jens Goltenberg, you know, NATO Secretary General. Voicing those concerns, stockpile concerns for the long term. And yet, we've been telling NATO, the U.S. has been telling NATO for years, you guys need to meet your 2% GDP commitment, spend 2% of your GDP on defense spending.

And no one has really been doing that for years.

So the U.S. and NATO allies certainly need to look at this in the grand scheme of things and recognize that it's not just China with respect to Russia's war in Ukraine, but it's also Taiwan is on the horizon. We've got to be thinking about how the landscape would shift. If there's a major crisis that demands our attention. And I think that that's going to be a test for whoever the future president is, but certainly cause to take a stronger line right now.

Listen, President, we gave a whole bunch of money to Turkey. Turkey is standing in our way in allowing Finland and Sweden to join NATO. Where's the pressure? India is investing, not only buying oil, but investing in Russia. Where's the pressure on India?

These people are, in some way, shape, or form, our allies, and we do have influence. I don't see any pressure. You know, they've been very mute on India, and that's one area I think that we could do some better reporting on, sort of shining light on that issue. You know, India's A huge, huge Um you know country and obviously, you know it's their money is keeping Russia afloat um and and funding this war in a lot of ways. But when it comes to NATO and and Turkey and whether what the US is or isn't doing about Finland and Sweden.

I've been asking this question within the administration and and within, you know, Foreign policy circles, not just from the US, trying to get a sort of clear read about where things stand. My understanding is that. Turkey is okay with Finland. And They're not okay with Sweden. They see this issue with the Kurds as an issue that would determine Erdogan's election.

And so they're not willing to open the door to Sweden because Erdogan thinks that he wouldn't win. And yet, they also don't have a date for their election because there's, you know. Earthquakes and several local issues that have sort of put a question mark there on the timeline. But you've got the June meeting coming up, and Biden had a Rose Garden event last summer saying NATO's door is open. I've brokered this deal with Turkey to get Finland and Sweden in.

And now you're coming up on this June meeting, and Putin's going to seize on any moment he can to show that there are fractures in NATO and that maybe we're not as aligned as the President and all the allies think that we are. The Biden administration needs to nail this down before the NATO summit in July, also before the June meeting with the ministers. or else it's going to give Putin, you know, a crack to sort of split open. what's going to be interesting is what does Finland do? Because if Turkey's ready to let Finland in.

But not Sweden, up until now, they've been a package deal. You have to feel for the Finns. Like, do you hang out there and leave yourself at risk? They border Russia.

So they're really in a dire sort of position. Or do you get in while you can? Because if any day, anything could change the trajectory of this war. A chemical weapon on the battlefield could. fill into a NATO country and trigger Article five.

They're in a situation where they're the most at risk.

So, how do they respond to this and how quickly can The Biden administration, the NATO allies, push Turkey on Sweden? I don't know that they can because they are saying it's an election issue for Erdogan.

So this is going to be a complex thing with a deadline that's coming up soon. And lastly, Jackie, real quick, how could the press secretary yesterday not have an answer to the question where the president stands on Atlanta and the hit on Copland by what seems to be Antifa? Listen. We have not been, I have not heard any discussions about this protest over the weekend, so we'd have to go back to the team and see where we are, where we're standing, and a response on that. Really?

I mean, how unprepared are you? Does it really matter that much? How many times have academies attacked with Molotov cocktails and firebombs?

Well, especially heading into a 2024 reelection campaign when defund the police was. a movement that harms Democrats writ large and that this President tried to sort of distance himself from, they've got to be up on this kind of news. When you've got attacks on law enforcement, and by the way, this is an ongoing issue that started Back in what, January was the first attack where the protester was killed, and there's been, you know, sort of. flare ups there ever since. This should have been on their radar long before the incident on Sunday, and they certainly should have been ready to answer that question Monday morning.

Yes, we'll see if it's going to be answered today. Jackie Heinrich, thanks so much. Always great. Thanks, Brian. Appreciate it.

Yeah, she does a great job. 1-866-408-7669. When we come back, I'll have a chance to take your calls for the first time today. There's a lot going on. 2024-2, Republicans against Republicans.

They are shadow boxing at each other. And for those people who say, well, Trump's 78. He's past his prime. You weren't watching over the weekend. His endurance and mental dexterity is where it ever was.

Fan or not, even John Oliver, the comedian for on HBO, said he still got it. Game on. Brian Killmeat Show. Newsmakers and newsbreakers. Here at first on the Brian Killmeat Show.

He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Kilmead. Welcome tonight's guest. If you ask his family, he's actually not coming to work enough. Host of One Nation and the Brian Kilby Radio Show, Brian Kilby.

Do you remember your family? Yes, you're not. I have photos and sketches. Is there outside of this building, so you which you never leave? Right.

You have pictures on your desk.

So you asked them questions. You attacked me. Yeah.

The only thing I am very scared of your audience. They're pumped up and happy, but almost too happy. I came to decide if it's UFC or WWE, but I had to make a choice. What's a problem for hosts at Fox of Friends when they come on here? They're not used to being liked.

Right.

They love you. They love you. They love you. They're women taking off their tops right now, right? That's 'cause it's so hot in here.

I do it too.

So that was Gutfell last night. Stayed about 6.15. It was good good show. Jamie Lissau every time he's on it. Revivek Ramaswamy.

I think Jamie's going to vote for him. He ran over. He absolutely won over Jamie Lissow because it's going to be interesting to see him in these debates if he gets up there. He said the word is he hasn't seen more than six or seven. That's what the word inside presidential circles are.

Six or seven percent, or no, six or seven candidates. Oh, okay.

So who else could get in? Maybe Trump. Pence, Pompeo, Governor Hutchinson. Yeah, but that's not going to do it. I mean, they're right there.

I haven't seen Christy.

Now I'm not seeing, I don't feel like Christy's going to get in, but maybe we'll have him come in.

So I'm just going to summarize emails, some of the people that wrote us. Just said, hey, Brian, I agree with you 99% of the time. I have to disagree with your position on Marjorie Taylor Greene. You may not like. are saying it's a national divorce um Like it, but a national divorce is the elegant, is the elephant.

He's read elegant in the room. You're open to listening to Nunu, but not standing up to woke companies.

So you shouldn't be open to discussing a national divorce, but you should be open to discussing a national divorce.

So roughly. Uh this is Can he write me? I just think it's an irresponsible way to talk. We had a national divorce. It ended up with hundreds of thousands of people dead.

And if you're a lawmaker, you went in there to bring people together or to get something done. If you're going to go up there and throw up your hands after two years, why'd you try for the job? That to me is quitting. I find a commonality, J.D. Vance, found something to work with Sherrod Brown with, and that worked.

From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City. Always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Gilmead. Hello, welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kill Me Show. Coming to you from 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan, heard around the country, around the world.

This hour we're going to be joined by Colonel Alan West. Bring us inside the border and the kidnapping that took place. Four Americans actually shots fired as they crossed the border into Mexico. A kidnapping takes place. You're talking about four civilians in a car, in a minivan with a license plate that said North Carolina on it.

A woman just going there with six kids to get cosmetic surgery, and now they're being kidnapped. We have to get serious about what's happening at the border. Colonel Alan West about that. Russ Voigt will be joining us too. Russ Voight, Center for Renewing America, former OMB director.

You want to go inside the numbers? He's the guy to do it when it comes to balancing our checkbook. How about we're $31 trillion over. Overdrawn, in debt, and how about we were $3 trillion back in 2013. It's going to be hard to recover from the pandemic, I get it, but did it have to be this bad when nobody wants to cut anything?

And then we'll do a simulcast from Varney and Company.

So let's get to the big three.

Now with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. This is alarming, though, because just yet another example of how Joe Biden and so many Democrats will rally the banners and man the ramparts to defend Chinese communists. That's exactly what happened on the coronavirus in early 2020. That's what happened last month.

Relations with China reach a new low and tensions between nations have never been so high. And their evil regime steals, cheats, and tortures. President Biden told us, he knew he could, told us all that. And he said, I can handle President Xi. He's not being handled.

Number two. And I go I would vote for Trump before I'd vote for Biden just because the thing with Biden like there he's no he's he's gone. Like you know he's gone. It's you're gonna be relying on his cabinet and I knew his cabinet would be this Sideshow of diversity. Joe Rogan is on the money again, sounding off about 2024, about Joe Biden at 80.

He's shot. Many people know it, even in his own party, while Trump at 78 seems ready for a rematch. Can anyone on the right step between this rematch? Can they match the former president? We'll examine.

Number one. I have made clear how I felt about the update to the criminal code. One of them was to allow dangerous murderers and rapists to get out of jail early. That was opposed by many people, including me. Yes, but not by the DC Council.

Lawlessness, the last legs from the D.C. easy on crime bill, the demise as they try to pull it back and stop the Republicans from taking a bow and blocking it. Then there's the Antifa raid on Copland in Atlanta. The administration doesn't even acknowledge it took place. You firebomb a police academy and the administration doesn't realize it happened.

Americans are showing they're ready to bask in the glow of the blue once again. I'm talking about the men and women in blue. Will Dems wake up to this reality? You know, I thought they were beginning to because the president was going to support Republicans in blocking the D.C. legislation that was going to go easy on crime across the board.

But now, after seeing that this Antifa and seemingly Antifa-inspired attack that seems organized and well financed, I'm not sure they're willing to do anything. Here's Karine Jean-Pierre was asked about it. They don't even have a benign stance, they have no stance or no knowledge. We have not been I have not heard any discussions about this protest over the weekend, so we'd have to go back to the team and see where we are, where we're standing and a response on that. Just this is the first time I'm hearing on about this protest over the weekend.

Protest? Are you kidding me? This was an attack, twenty-three charged with terrorism in Atlanta over this cop city protest, including an attorney with the Southern Poverty Law Center. He said he was just there in observance. Nobody was from Georgia except maybe two people, and there were dozens of people there.

The ages 18 to 49. They were rehearsed, they were financed, they all had the same outfits on, they knew how to handle the tear gas that would come their way and some of the repelling action that the cops have been trained to do. There were people there as far as France going at this. They don't like the way the cop land, this academy, is being built and expanded. Maybe it's touching on the forest.

They don't like the idea of just cops training. Only two of those arrested were from Georgia. Their ages up to fifty. On the list, names released by the police were booked into DeKalb County Jail. Hopefully, they had a terrible night.

Matt Bass, an attorney representing some of the defendants, say they've been wrongly charged. They haven't been. This is bad.

Meanwhile, the TZ crime bill was so bad and abhorrent that the Biden administration changed gears without telling fellow Democrats in the House and just decided to support Republicans who were making an effort to block it. And so now the DC council pulled it back. And Senator Haggerty said, there's no mechanism to pull it back. We're blocking it because it was on a glide path. And why was it on a glide path?

Because they overcame the veto of the Democratic mayor, Mayor Bowser. Cut one. I have made clear how I felt about the update to the criminal code. One of them was to allow dangerous murderers and rapists get out of jail early.

Now you can support that policy. I don't have a problem with that. We have one for people going up to the age of twenty four. You can support it, but don't cram it into a bill. That was opposed by many people, including me.

But not enough on the DT Council. What are you outraged about? You should have stepped up and said, mister President, I need you to help me here. I'm going to lose all my cops if that indeed happens.

Now what exactly happened at Copland over the weekend? Why were they targeted to begin with? Here's Randy Sutton. on Fox News. You talked about this training site and how necessary it was, and how it was financed by a private foundation cut for.

Here we have literally an international group of people that have come here. They were literally coming from an event where they changed their clothes into the Antifa uniform, you know, masks and wearing black, you know, very cool. And then attacking with rocks, with bricks, with Molotov cocktails, this facility and the police officers. Why isn't the Department of Justice getting off their butts and recognizing that this is a terrorist group and going after them? Like they should be.

The state charges of domestic terrorism are, of course, fantastic. But when I watch an attack like this, I'm reminded of what took place in 2020 with police officers being attacked with rocks and bricks. And let's face it, in my role with the Wounded Blue, These bricks are deadly. They're deadly weapons. Yeah, and so are Molotov cocktails.

Why is this anything but a five-alarm fire? And in terms of Antifa, if you're the president of the United States, this is what you say. Yeah, the Proud Boys, terrible organization. All these groups who did X, Y, and Z terrible. And Antifa's terrible too.

I'm watching what happens in Seattle. I see what happens in Los Angeles. I saw some of the work, horrible things they did in Portland, and now I see things in Atlanta. I'm outraged. If you want to be president of the United States, of the whole country.

But instead, you want to stay at 41%? You want to not acknowledge one terror attack to another? Can you imagine if the Proud Boys or anybody else did this? They'd say this is flat out anarchy. President Trump would say we're going to I'm going to put the National Guard down there to save the Academy of Cadets from being attacked, and they got to say the President's militarizing the country.

But to not even acknowledge it All weekend long, and to say, Yeah, I'm really concerned that the Democrats are getting the reputation of being anti-law enforcement. No kidding, you've earned it. You've earned it.

So, when we come back, I'm going to talk to Colonel Allen West about that: the kidnapping that took place in Mexico, what we should be doing about that. But this administration is extremely slow to act. These are all unifying things. A kidnapping of Americans, we should be on the same page. When it comes to firebombing a police station, a police academy, we should be on the same page.

When it comes to China, we should be on the same page. But the President doesn't say much, doesn't do many interviews, falled upstairs again, I believe this is the fourth time yesterday, the Vice President giggling about Conservatives being evil, some ridiculous story that she spouted out. I mean, that's our leadership. That's why Joe Rogan makes so much sense. Just speaks logic, not politics.

A logical president will be a successful president. Don't move. Okay. Giving you everything you need to know. You're with Brian Kilmead.

Information you want, truth you demand. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. We have not been, I have not heard any discussions about this protest over the weekend, so we'd have to go back to the team and see where we are, where we're standing, and a response on that. Just this is the first time I'm hearing about this protest over the weekend. Is that nuts?

Not a protest, they were firebombing. Fire bombing. A police academy. It's the first time you're hearing it. That is the press secretary for the president, for the White House.

With me right now to make sense of it, if it's at all possible, Lieutenant Colonel Alan West. Why is this not a bigger deal to them? Uh it's not a bigger deal to them, Brian, because it doesn't fit into their narrative. If this had been some group that they could say were white supremacists or were tied to January 6th, it would be all over the news. And they, of course, be blaming President Trump about it.

But when you have a truly a domestic terrorist group like Antifa, which is the reason why you have all of these counties out in eastern Oregon wanting to leave the rest of Oregon because they see what's happening in Portland because of all the protests and violence, billions of dollars of property has been destroyed. People have been killed. Police officers have been shot at. And that's what happened in Atlanta a couple of weeks ago was the Antifa members shot at a police officer. They returned fire upon the Antifa member and killed him.

And now I guess Antifa has declared war in the state of Georgia. Good luck. Bring it on. These bunch of mutants who fancy themselves, I'm sure they're from all types of. They're not from Georgia, number one.

You're from Georgia. They're not from Georgia. They have no business there. Yeah, twenty three were arrested, only two are from Georgia, and you actually have two people that are foreign nationals.

So what does that tell you? These foreign nationals should uh be treated like terrorists who have come across into our borders and they're conducting uh actions of uh firebombing, a police training academy. Th you can't make this up, Brian.

So yesterday uh we found out about a kidnapping of uh four uh four people in a uh in a white Chevy minivan. They were shot at. A woman was evidently a mother of six, was going to have elective surgery, brought some of her friends, and these thugs in Mexico, these cartel members, seemingly took them. We watch it on video, dragged some lifeless bodies into a pickup truck and just take them away. These are Americans.

What are we doing to get them back?

Well Obviously, this administration is not doing anything. As a matter of fact, this administration has emboldened them. And these are not thugs, Brian. This is a transnational narco-criminal terrorist organization. And so here is an American mother of six who goes across the border to get elective surgery.

I've been reading, it seems she wanted to get a tummy tuck, has three friends, and their van is fired upon. They've got North Carolina police on it, so it's clear that they're Americans. But think about the opposite. You can cross the border coming into the United States of America illegally. They crossed over legally.

You can cross over illegally and you get taxpayer money. You get put up in a nice, fancy hotel up in New York City. If you don't like the food, you can throw the food out and demand better food. We are looking like cowards, and we are not standing up domestically against the terrorist group, which is Antifa, and furthermore, along our border against a terrorist group, which are the cartels. And I think we have three Americans.

Americans that are dead, and probably one that is severely wounded. Let's see what this administration is going to do. Used Ned Price yesterday, the man that just reeks of masculinity, cut 27. We're closely following the kidnapping of four U.S. citizens in Matamoris on March 3rd.

The FBI working very closely with other federal partners and Mexican law enforcement agencies to investigate this. I'm sure you saw the FBI put out a reward for their safe return. We're standing ready to provide all appropriate consular assistance. We do also remind Americans about the existing travel guidance when it comes to this particular part of Mexico.

So does that sound like a guy that is hella high water, I'm going to get them back? Is that the attitude of a superpower when their neighbor can't control their own citizens? Is that going to be the is that going to scare Oberdor to take action? No, it's not. And this guy, Ned, he reminds me of Ned from The Simpsons.

But this is what people see in the United States. They see this weakness. They see this fecklessness. They see this delta mail that is standing up there. People in the world, some places, only understand strength and might.

And we've been playing around with these cartels for quite some time, Brian. And here along the border in Texas, we know they've been firing across that border. We know that the drug terrain wars are now creeping over onto our side of the board because it's a lucrative business.

So until we get serious about this and put the hammer down, and I don't see why we have not gone across that border to retrieve the what could be the bodies of Americans, but at least rescue those Americans, we're going to be seen, like you just articulated, as kowtowing to the cartels and weak. Yeah, in fact, Bill Barr says that there was something in place, and Robert O'Brien said the same thing on Saturday. They were going to go after the cartels militarily. And now, Maggie Haberman gets this story that President Trump wanted to rocket these cartels and just attack another country, and they say how crazy that is. Not really.

What he's trying to say is: we know where the fentanyl is coming from, we know who's responsible for it. The Mexican government's not powerful enough or willing to take them down, so we'll do it. That's what he's saying. And people want to make it something of that crazy Trump coming up with some crazy idea. No.

Bill Barr said, treat him like ISIS, take him out, and we have the guys to do it. You're absolutely right. And you know, you know well, I spent two and a half years in Afghanistan. This is no different from the Taliban. The Taliban was finding safe haven over in Pakistan.

The government of Pakistan, especially the ISI, did nothing to curtail them. And so the Taliban would launch incursions across the board into Afghanistan. The cartels are no different from the Taliban.

So I'm seeing a report now. If I could just share this, Colonel West. The Mexican governor says the missing Americans, two are dead, two are alive. They've been found.

So I don't I don't know anything else besides that, but that's just coming across now.

So now we have a terrorist group that has killed two Americans and wounded two, and what are we going to do about it? We got to do something. I mean, for not talking about it, as bringing this guy back and forth to Delaware, letting him fall upstairs on camera, having the Vice President giggle about how evil conservatives are at some climate change conference in Colorado State. That's not the way you lead a country. No, it's not the way to lead a country.

And again, unfortunately, Americans have lost their lives and been wounded because of the weakness of this president and the vice president, who supposedly is the border czar who does not care about it. And now we have a military that's more focused on pronoun usage and woke policies than really their core competencies and capabilities. You know, let's see what Greg Abbott does here in Texas because these people did cross the border from Texas and Brownsville over to Matthew Morris.

So what could he do? You got the Texas National Guard down here, and we've got the capability to launch and go across and retrieve those bodies and exact revenge against these cartels. We need to close down their operations there in Brownsville, and every single member that is tied to the cartels would have treated them like a terrorist. And they should be in prison. Their finances should be impounded.

All their property should be taken. I mean, this is how we have to play hardball with these individuals, or else there's going to be more of this, Brian. There's going to be more Americans getting killed along that border zone. I agree with you 100%. This is going to be one of the premier issues.

We can't control our own neighbors, let alone the Middle East and Far East. Colonel Allen West, thank you. Thank you, Brian. All right, we're going to follow this story because there's a lot of video of it.

Now we have two dead, two alive. We'll find out if we can get them saved now. Russ Vogt will be with us, Center for Renewing America, former OMB director. Makes sense of our economy. Then the Samuel Casuo Barney Company, don't move.

From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Kilmead. We are $31 trillion in the hole. We've got to begin to grow the economy, build it back with lower taxes. And when we do that and grow our economy, we'll get it back right. It's going to take a true conservative leader, Shannon.

Are you saying that President Trump wasn't a true conservative leader? $6 trillion more in debt. That's never the right direction for the country. That was the former Secretary of State, CIA Director, maybe Presidential candidate Mike Pompeo talking over the weekend on Fox News Sunday with me right now to discuss that. And because he had the checkbook for the country for a while, for our former OMB director, Center for Renewing American President, Russ Vogt, joins us now.

Russ, your reaction to the former Secretary of State's assessment of your administration. Yeah, it is unfortunate. Johnny come lately, he had an opportunity to help us cut foreign aid spending in the President Trump's administration, and he specifically worked against us when President Trump made a decision to cut foreign aid and use what is called a rescissions process. He pushed the money out the door as fast as he could at the State Department so that there would be no more money left to cut. He knows that it is the Congress that refused to consider our budgets, $4 trillion, more than any President's budget in history.

That is the kind of spending cuts we had in those budgets. That was Congress's fault. It is unfortunate that he is going to misconstrue the President's record. I also think that when you guys had control of the House and Senate, you still only I remember Paul Ryan said I had to make compromises to get this thing passed, and one of which was no wall, $1.4 billion for the wall. And Republicans in the House, did they show fiscal restraint?

No, absolutely not. They wanted to continue to fund the bureaucracy and point the message and the focus on entitlements, which they don't have a vote on every single year. It is one of my main arguments for why they need to focus on appropriations. vote on it every year. But they did not want it Can you break that down for me?

Yeah, so you've got woke and weaponized bureaucracy. When American people talk about the Federal Government, they're talking about the bureaucracy, the agencies, the EPA, the Department of Education. That's funded every year. What is not funded every year are the benefits that you get from Social Security or Medicare, Medicaid, even student loans. And so Republicans have focused for too long on that which they don't have a vote on every year because they are on autopilot.

And what I'm suggesting is they got to focus with reckless abandon on the annual budget and be able to make wins there because not only can you save money, but those are the bureaucracies that are armed against the American people. You look at EPA, they put a 70-70-year-old Navy veteran in jail for building four ponds on his ranch to fight wildfires. That's wrong. The Department of Labor shuts down a consignment operator because she's trying to provide discounts to poor people who are trying to put clothes on the backs of their kids. That's wrong.

That's where the American people are doing. People know their bureaucracy is out of control, and I think that's where the fight needs to be on this debt limit. And when Rick Scott said we should sunset these non-discretionary spending, do you know what he meant? I know what he meant. People have talked about sunsetting for a long time.

He certainly didn't mean Medicare and Social Security, and that was kind of maligned and made much of by some Senate Republicans in the White House. But honestly, I think it's a reflection of the fight that the President and Democrats want, which is Social Security and Medicare. You see that as early as today, late as today. That's not where the fight should be on the debt limit. We got to go after the woke parts of the bureaucracy and defund that on this debt limit.

What do you mean by today? What happened today? He came out today with a review of his budget for his Medicare taxes. And he wants to make it solvent to 2050. Correct.

From what you saw, is it by his plan? He's going to do what every liberal does and just tax the American people more. And if we want to have a conversation at some level about billionaires and being taxed, maybe we can have that conversation. But what he's going to do is not going to change the solvency of the program because he's not adjusting the benefits. And that's what's politically challenging to do.

And I think if you care about those programs, And they are going broke. But Washington has done nothing except talk about it and study it with commissions. If you care about those programs, the best thing we can do is to actually make progress somewhere to cut spending somewhere and begin to balance the budgets, and then we can have a conversation about the hardest stuff to tackle. Is it accurate to say that Medicare and Social Security make up 40 percent of the budget? It m it no, it it makes up a very sizable percentage of the budget.

Two thirds of the of the mandatory spending is autopilot. Of that, most of it is Social Security and Medicare.

So when for you to do any serious cutting. You need to look at those. Politically, it's a third rail. I get it. No.

So this is where my main paradigm shift is this. You can balance the budget in 10 years and still provide for national security and defense by going after the $3 trillion in discretionary spending, the woke and weaponized bureaucracy, $6 trillion in the easier mandatory reforms like the welfare reform, getting rid of the benefit hammock that's been created, and tackling Medicaid and slowing its growth. You can get to balance by doing that, and that is a much better way to actually begin to have spending cuts. Russ Vodis here used to be director of the OMB, Center for Renewing America now, where he's president.

So where do you think we're at when it comes to energy? And it's just so ironic you're here now. This would have been the week or the month that the XL pipeline would have been flowing. It would have been, in theory, it was projected to be ready to go by now, but the President got rid of that. Energy-wise, this must be frustrating.

It is incredibly frustrating. You can't deal with the fiscal situation that we have without economic growth. And one of the main critical components of that is obviously cheap energy and making sure it's American energy and not relying on other countries. It's actually good foreign policy for us not to be relying on other countries. And what they've done.

Absolutely, absolutely. And so they at every turn, most immediately when they took office was the pipeline and were announced to seeing the results of that this week. But at every turn, they have taken an approach which is less energy and starving the American people of what they need to grow and invest in their companies.

So this will oil project out in Alaska. is supposed to go online, and the President's getting pressure from his left to destroy it and make sure Alaska is not able to flow this oil through a pipeline. Among the people against that is the President of the Alaska AFL CIO, Cut thirty two.

Well, I'm sure the President is weighing this decision very carefully, but I hope he we have the confidence that we have already passed this NEPA process. And this is a reaffirmation of a decision that's already been made. We hope that he will find it in our favor and we'll be able to develop this oil field. America simply must do two things at once. We have to be able to continue to develop natural our oil and gas reserves here in Alaska, and we have to be able to build towards a climate future that's free of these types of carbons.

But We have to do two things at once. It's pretty simple. And it seems simple, but you wonder what the president's going to do. He always goes with the political left with very, very rare occasions. And so it's unfortunate.

But I think what you see in that clip is you see an example of in Alaska where, even on a bipartisan basis, they want more energy. And that should tell the rest of the country something. This doesn't have to be about politics. You can protect the environment and you can be able to have energy exploration that is American in a way that makes sense and doesn't lead to economic devastation. That the administration has, quite frankly, furthered in Ohio by not addressing the situation there.

So President Trump came out over the weekend. One of the things he said is, I would have kept the price of oil down in order to make sure that Russia and Iran. And China, everybody was we keep the for the oil producers, they would not have been able to use that money to muscle up and build up their economy.

Now it's at, what, eighty dollars? How does Russia's economy benefit from $80 a barrel oil? I mean, we are furthering these individuals and nations that don't have our interests at our disposal. And we are furthering them with the price of high energy. We are giving them operating room to make their own decisions as opposed to making us in position to have our own unilateral positions.

And that's what you get across the board with this President on his foreign policy. He never even thinks about it. He just tries to go with the left. I just thought it was too interesting. I want to play two cuts for you.

One is just about our country. You can vote with your feet. What state is more fiscally responsible? Where is a better place to live? Obviously, Florida, if you talk to people.

What about Jamie Diamond, one of our most respected CEOs? Uh this is what he said about why Florida works, Cut 35. If you were running the state, you should be thinking, how can I make this date off good well off for my people?

So Florida likes business. They want you to come. You come to Florida, you see the optimum. Texas is the same way. If I was some other states, I'd be thinking about why do people like going to these states?

It's their taxes, it's their pro-business, they want better life for the people. It's not necessary some of the politics they talked about.

So we now have more employees in Texas than in New York State. It should have been that way, but Texas loves to be there. And when you go there, they're optimistic. They're optimistic here. Pro-American, optimistic, pro-business.

No. Unfortunately, no.

So he's just talking about J.P. Morgan. Is he right? Absolutely. You're seeing some of the Shark Tank guys say the same thing.

Like the one we're in. Like we're the one we're in. New Jersey, others, Illinois. They're putting themselves in a position where Hard edge, calculating businessmen have to make decisions and say we're going elsewhere. And I think we're going to see more of that.

Res folk, always great to see you. I look forward to seeing you again. And maybe if Trump wins, you're going back? I wouldn't want to miss out on any of the kind of opportunity, but who knows what's going on then? All right.

He had the checkbook for the country, and he wants it back. Let's see what happens. He was in the Brian Killmee show, do Samukask with Stuart Varney and FPN in just a moment. Don't move. Now, the Brian Kilmead Show joins Fox Business's Varney and Company with Stuart Varney live on your radio and on Fox Business.

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So, if I don't know the story of the horrible situation where these drug cartels seemingly just assaulted and kidnapped four Americans when they crossed into Mexico, two are dead, two are alive. I have no word if they're in our custody yet. This woman was just going across with a few of her friends because she was doing an elective surgery. For some reason, they targeted a white minivan with North Carolina plates, took them, killed him, shot at it first, crashed into it first, slowed him down, and then they just took everybody, including the dead bodies. I have no idea how this can.

Comes out, but this is an international incident.

Meanwhile, let's talk ready to go on Stuart Varney. About the Americans in Mexico. The governor of the state of Tamil Pawas, that's a Mexican state, he says that two of the four missing Americans have been found dead. Brian Kilmey joins us. Brian, this is serious stuff.

If that report is accurate, what are we going to do with the cartels? I mean, we don't know who's alive, who's dead. I'm not even clear that they're in our custody in particular. But you know, Robert O'Brien, who was on with me over the weekend, said that they had a plan in place. They knew exactly where the cartels were, where they were located.

We're going to coordinate with the government, and they're going to take some action there. And you just you also have people saying, like Bill Barr, who said you have to treat them exactly like you did ISIS. We know how to take these groups down. They have actually more money, and we might have some cooperation with the Federal Government, who really are outgunned by their cartels. It really would help if we didn't have a failed socialist state at our border.

But we let the border. Be controlled by the cartels within that failed socialist state.

So we are really to blame for it. The previous administration said they wish they had more time to take more action, but by any means, fentanyl getting into our country is up 22 percent. You see the flow of illegals coming here. It's not even close between the two administrations. They are blowing the doors off all records for the wrong reasons.

I've got to get an accurate report on what happened to those Americans. And if the cartels have killed Americans, That is a major escalation, and we have to respond to that. Excuse me, where's the president? Where is the president on this? We heard Ned Price, a spokesperson, make a statement yesterday.

We have no muscle, we have no bluster, we have zero. Not good enough. I'm going to move on, change the subject. The Governor of Florida, Ron DeSantis, taking a swipe at California's migrant policies. Watch this.

When I became governor, we were able to ban sanctuary cities. We're not going to recognize lawless identifications that are done by California. And California, they've abandoned the rule of law. They are a sanctuary state. They don't follow federal immigration laws.

And of course, these Soros prosecutors pick and choose which laws to enforce. There'll be people in Los Angeles who will get mugged, Sean, on the street, and the prosecutor won't bring charges against these guys, and they end up going out and they victimize other people. Obviously, Brian, this is becoming a major political confrontation: Newsom versus DeSantis, California versus Florida. This is how it could shape up for the 2024 election. And Governor DeSantis, no doubt about it, is punching down with Newsom, who's a failed governor, who's not even there during another catastrophe.

And by the way, too, when it comes to Sanctuary State, you're inviting these people. You're taking taxpayer dollars to support these people. I looked at these numbers, Stuart. I know you're into numbers. New York City spends $370.

Dollars a day per illegal immigrant, $1.4 billion a year, $2.8 billion next year, and then plus 30,000 staying in hotels. Don't say, woe is me, because you're a sanctuary city. They know if they come here, we're not kicking them out. We're feeding them, we're clothing them, giving them free bags. They get to stay in beautiful hotels until we get them a job.

So this is too attractive not to do. They are to blame for this. And now they're looking for the federal government to bail them out. Really? With our money?

So the money we send to the federal government, we're looking to bail out the states when the city's already taking our money. The state's taking our money. They're using our money to pay for illegals. Not for us, not for cops, not for raises for teachers. None of this.

It is nuts what's going on right now.

Well, did you see the front page of the New York Times this morning? A big new thing. The Times says that the Biden administration is considering allowing migrant families across the border to stay together. To put them in tents and cities and give them playgrounds and schools and heaven knows what. I think the President is trying to reverse.

His border policy, because he knows his border policy is in deep trouble. Oh, you know that policy that Trump had? If you want to apply, you apply to the country you're in? He's doing it. Do you know what you were just saying?

That policy? That's a Trump policy. He's doing it. To remain in Mexico was a gift for him. He blew it.

And now he's sitting there saying, wow, this is going to be terrible for me if I actually want to run for reelection.

So I've got to figure out something. Let me see.

Somebody's playbook is sitting there in the Oval Office. Let me open it up and find out what was working. Not perfectly, but what I could appreciate, and I think you can too, is nobody thought that Trump was weak on the border. The methods were debatable, but the objective was not. The objective for President Biden is debatable, and the methods are questionable where they're coming from.

So that's my problem. Are you trying to help our country? Look at foreign policy. If we even have, we'll talk about that on the radio tomorrow. But even foreign policy, this is where his experience is.

Tell me China's better. Tell me our relationship with Russia's better. Tell me our relationship with Iran's better. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Mm-hmm.

You know about hard breaks, and I've got one facing me right there. Killmead, you're all right. See you again soon. Go get him. Just ahead.

Dr. Mark Siegel. All right.

I have a lot to say. I should get a talk show. 1-866-408-7669. You can also write me at BrianKilmead.com.

So look at this. You heard what I was just saying.

So right now, every person that crosses into our country gets off that bus at Port Authority $370 a day. I used to survive on $3 a day. I could not afford the Denny's grand slam when I was out in California, and there was a homeless problem then. I remember literally paycheck to paycheck, waiting, getting paid every two weeks.

Now, you come here illegally, you're getting 370 a day, 30,000 in hotel rooms in our country. There are about 60 hotels that have been converted to illegal immigrant places. And why do beautiful hotels convert? Because every room gets sold. The city government pays top dollar for it.

You don't have to worry about it. You have your staff. You do half your staff and you pay make charge the city for the cleanup when they're finally done and they're out. That is why these hotels, I won't even name them. Because if some decided not to participate in it, I appreciate it, and I don't want to loop them in for no reason.

But the ones that take the money and say, I don't have to worry about vacancies, I don't have to worry about tourists, I get it paid for. But that just makes everybody more dangerous and makes the city worse and becomes more of a magnet for illegal immigrants. But until you get rid of the Sanctuary City status, I have no sympathy for you. Ryan killed me, chill. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show.

Brian Kilmead. All right, welcome to the latest moment to the Brian Killmeat Show.

So glad you're here. Bottom of the hour, one of the deepest thinkers, nicest guys, most interesting you'll ever meet. Dr. Drew Pinsky, board-certified internist. You know him on the radio, YouTube, television, everything else.

He was kind enough to be on with us on One Nation last two Saturday nights ago. And with me in studio, Dan Bilak, one of our favorite all-time guests, member of the Territorial Defense Forces of Ukraine. He has finally left that country to come to be with you as former chief investment advisor to the prime minister of Ukraine and now in studio. Dan, welcome. A pleasure to be here, Brian.

All right, so Dan, before we get inside Ukraine, the latest on the war, the holdup with Bakhmut and how you guys are still fighting hard there, and how the latest report was the Russians actually surging with shovels. Let's get to the big three.

Now with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. This is alarming though, because just yet another example of how Joe Biden and so many Democrats will rally the banners and man the ramparts to defend Chinese communists. That's exactly what happened on the coronavirus in early 2020. That's what happened last month.

Absolutely. Relations with China reach a new low. Tensions between nations have never been so high. It's an evil regime. They cheat, they steal, they torture.

But President Biden told us he could handle it. What happened? Number two. And I go, I would vote for Trump before I'd vote for Biden. Just because I think with Biden, like, he's no, he's gone.

Like, you know, he's gone. It's you're gonna be relying on his cabinet. And I knew his cabinet would be this. sideshow of diversity. Joe Rogan nails it again.

I'll play the extended clip a little bit later. Realize, can anyone on the right step up? It looks like President Trump at 78 years old. Like him or not, you can't say he lost his fastball after watching him over the weekend. Can he be stopped on the right?

And will there be a rematch in 2024? Number Wrong. I have made clear how I felt about the update to the criminal code. One of them was to allow dangerous murderers and rapists get out of jail early.

That was opposed by many people, including me. That was Mayor Bowser of D.C., but the D.C. council wanted to lessen the penalties on every crime, raise the age to prosecute every crime. It was going to be blocked, and President Biden was going to sign on it. They just pulled it back.

You add that to the lack of indifference after the attack on Copland in Atlanta. You got to wonder what's happening in law and order in this country. But first things first, when it comes to foreign policy, there's nothing more important than supporting Ukraine to the best we can in the West to let them beat once and for all the Russians. And I would argue the one or two biggest rivals we have on this planet. With me right now is a man who's actually doing the work.

He has left the battlefield to be with you in studio and to be with me in studio. Dan, welcome. Great to see you. Great to meet you in person for the first time. Yeah, likewise, Brian.

So tell me how different you're. Life has been since this war started.

Well, I obviously reevaluate a lot of things in your life, your values, what's important. Obviously, family, friends, country come first. Material things are deep, deep, deep, deep, deep second. You know, everybody in the nation is doubling down to support the armed forces. You know, our people don't have two COPECs to rub together, and we've raised $500 million from Ukrainians alone to fund the armed forces.

And it's just total resistance. Everybody is involved. You're either on the front or you're working for the front. And there's no way we're going to lose. Were you convinced that the invasion was going to happen?

Personally, I was. I think I was one of the few people in the country that actually believed it was going to happen. I still felt it back in the spring of 2021 when he started circling our borders with his tanks and weaponry as part of their military exercises. And then by October, when he did it again and he left all the stuff there, it was pretty clear where this was going. Do you know the interesting thing?

The soldiers, and you could know better than me, the Russian soldiers said, We didn't know we were going in.

So they were kind of surprised. Others were they had cop uniforms. They thought they were just going to take the capital and take over the country and try to put law and order in. Do you find that a lot of the Russian soldiers didn't know what the mission was? Yeah, I wouldn't overstate that.

I think there was prob I think a lot of people I think Putin's cabinet didn't know what the mission was. I think uh there was a very small group of people that took the decisions. But a lot of these uh these soldiers that said uh we didn't know we were coming in on training exercises, when you check their packs and stuff, you found uh maps and instructions and orders and things like that.

So, you know, they they they knew by the time they entered Ukraine, they knew what they were doing. But they weren't trained to do it.

Well, the first group that came in was the highly trained ones. This is one of the things that is really the story of this war, is that they put in their most highly specialized, highly trained troops right at the beginning, and we took them out. And we've degraded the entire Russian army by about 40 to 50 percent over the course of the last year. Would you think 200,000 casualties, dead or wounded, is accurate? Yeah, I think that's right.

I and that's that's just not that's not my stats. Those are stats of uh the Americans and uh and the Brits. And why do you think you're fighting so much better than them? Why do you feel as though you're more organized with more of a sense of mission? How did that happen?

Well, first of all, as I said, this is total resistance. We're fighting for our country, and not only that, we're fighting against extermination. I mean this is a genocidal war, Brian. They've come in to wipe out Ukraine and wipe out Ukrainians.

So we have no choice but to fight, and we have no choice but to win. But you are organized with a sense of mission and and hierarchy and Well, actually, that's actually the key, is that this Ukrainian self propensity to self-organization has really helped. That we fight tactically, we fight smart, we shoot better, we've been, and we're really grateful to the people of the United States for the weapons we've got, because it gives us a huge advantage. The Russians are very heavy. They've been fighting the same war they fought 300 years ago.

It's just all about bodies on the battlefield and overwhelm the enemy. And we've been much more strategic and tactical and effective.

So I want to bring with Sergei Larvov was dressed in the G20 over in India. Listen to his statement and listen to the audience when he made it, Cut 38. You know, the war which we are trying to stop and which was launched against us using the Ukraine. Ukrainian people Uh Of course it influenced influenced influenced uh the A policy of Russia. Did he expect people to believe that the war in which was inflicted on us that you basically they s you started the war?

Yeah, frankly, I don't think they care what we think. All of this, all of this. What about the rest of the world? Why would he say that? Because it's for domestic consumption.

The laughter? Exactly. It means that they're laughing at us, they're against us. Our people are we need your support. The people of Russia, we need your support to double down.

And we're under attack even in India. You know, I don't think Lavro is not a stupid guy. I mean, he's told to say what he has to say. And this is they're just trying to be consistent with their messaging. as ridiculous as it is.

Bring us to the battle. Right now, everyone's talking about Bakhmood, but the longer they stay there, is that to your strategic advantage to wear them out there and fight? Because evidently you guys don't want to give up the city, but it's almost entirely encircled And one of the exit bridges was destroyed. Yeah, Brian. It's a bit of a gamble, but we have been very successful over the course of the last few months in degrading the Russian army, which we have to continue doing in order to be able to successfully launch our counteroffensive, especially in the south, to cut off their supply lines, cut them off from Kherson and Crimea, and then take back the Donbas.

As we've said, we've taken a terrible, terrible price. We've paid a terrible, terrible price for this. But we're killing five of theirs to one of ours, and that's a strategic move. I don't know how long it's going to last, though. Because you don't want a situ situation like Mariupol where everyone takes prisoner, correct?

Yeah, no. And we can't afford to these are these are our best fighters. You know, these are the dregs of their society that are coming at us, prisoners, rapists, murderers. They literally run some unarmed at you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But they they fought the Second World War that way. Stalin gave them pitchforks to attack a German position. They just kept mowing them down until they ran out of bullets. This is why we need the equipment. This is why we need what we're asking for from our allies faster and in greater quantity so that we can have the advantage on the battlefield using weapons.

I don't know if it was called Stalingrad or Leningrad, but I guess they consider that a great victory. They lost 1.4 million people. Yeah, no, exactly. And Stalin lost a million people just taking Berlin, which had at that point had no real strategic value, but it had political value. Bachmut for the Russians is huge because they have nothing.

They've really they've they've they've not achieved any of their aims. Putin has not achieved any of their age.

So he wants this as a PR win. 100% to tell his people that we took a major city. It's now no longer a major city because it's flattened. And out of 70,000 people that were there pre-war, there's only about 4,000 left. Here's a little from the front lines, a report from the front lines from Western News, CBS, Cut 37.

As the battlefield turns from ice into mud. There's still a chill in the air as we're taken to one of the Ukrainian military's most vital lookout points, close to Bakhmut. It's where we meet Izhak, who keeps a close eye on Russian positions below. What's the biggest threat facing you right now? Our biggest fear is artillery, he says, because it can hit us at any time.

You don't know when, where, or how. Kremlin-backed forces say they're close to encircling this charred and ruined city as they stand accused of committing horrific atrocities here. International outrage is growing following the apparent Russian execution of this Ukrainian soldier. Glory to Ukraine were his final words. Yeah.

before being shot. It's a defiance Masik, who's just returned from Bakhmut, understands. Lots of us have been killed, he says, but this is our land, and we must keep fighting. At a nearby location, deep in the woods, we meet up with members of a tank unit who have also experienced the horrors of Bakhmut firsthand. This video shows them taking the direct hit from Russian file.

Vladozov was driving the tank at the time. Are you worried that Bakhmut will fall? To the Russians. Yes. Look, he says, if the Russians take Bakhmut, then Ukraine will be at a serious breaking point.

That's not true. Obviously, if you're down in Bakhmut, it looks that way. But from all the indications, both here and in Ukraine, it's not a strategic defeat. It's a setback. But we have already prepared the fallback positions so that if we're going to leave Bakhmut, we have a line of defense that will prevent them from going to Kramatorsk and Slovyansk.

We'll still have high ground.

So, one thing, as I mentioned to you, the NBC has a report that the Russians are forced to fight with shovels because they have an ammo shortage.

So, this Wagner group. Uh How much better, how much different are they as fighters? Because we also hear they're recruiting from prisons. And they were told you can't recruit from prisons anymore. Who are they?

Yeah, this is a private military uh company uh run by a guy named Evgeny Progozhin.

Well, they are Russians, right? They are Russians, and they're basically used by the Russian military and by Putin especially as sort of plausible deniability. Uh they're their wet ops guys. Um but you know we we we destroyed A huge part of Wagner Group early in the war, and that's why they've had to recruit from prisoners uh from prisons. There 50,000 prisoners in Bachmut, and of those 50,000, there's probably 10,000 left.

Everybody else is dead.

So, when they talk about this elite group as if they're their version of the Navy SEALs, it's just not correct. No, no, no, I mean nothing close to that. Is there a rivalry between the Russian regulars and the Wagner Group? Yeah, 100%. And as bad as the Wagner Group is, they're better than the Russian Army.

And that's the problem that the Russians have. They don't even pick up the bodies on the Brian, it's horrible. My friends who who've just come from Bahmut said that even in winter, the stench on the battlefield is so bad you can hardly breathe because the the bodies not only are they just lying on the field rotting, but the next wave of people are climbing over the bodies of their of their comrades and they're just piling up. What I kept hearing was in Afghanistan, one of the reasons they pulled out is the Russian mom said, I'm tired of sending my sons into that terrible war. Why aren't they saying it now?

Yeah, it's a really good question. There's a mentality that we're under threat, and so we have to defend the nation. And that's the story that Putin has sold them on. Your average Russian gets all of their information from television, which is completely controlled by the Kremlin. But this is also deeply, deeply ingrained in the Russian psyche, this notion that somehow this is all going to fall apart, because Russia is not really a nation state.

It's an artificial construct, it's a colonizer, and it's an empire. And so it's really held together by one thing only, and that's repression. Congratulations. I'd look for something else. Dan Bilak, a couple more minutes when we get back, including: are they getting the weapons they need at the pace in which they need them?

We'll find out as Dan left Ukraine to talk to you. Don't move. Giving you everything you need to know. You're with Brian Kilmead. A talk show that's real.

This is the Brian Kill Me Show. We have a few more minutes with Dan Bilak. He's back from Ukraine to help us out and give us an upcoming personal view of what it's like in that war-torn country. Remember, the Territorial Defense Forces of Ukraine, former Chief Investment Officer Advisor to the Prime Minister of Ukraine. You were advised to a few prime ministers, right?

Two, yeah. Two.

So, right now, are you getting the weapons you need at the pace in which you need them? Unfortunately, from the perspective of both our political leaders and our military, probably not. We still haven't got a lot of the stuff that was promised to us back in the summer and the fall. We're really running short on munitions, shells, ammunition, and things like that. The last two packages from the administration, from the American people, have started to address that shortage.

You would have had a surge in the winter if you were armed. I suspect that that's what would have happened. The original plan was to do something this winter to take advantage of the situation. But they lob for 60,000 shells at us a week, and we can respond with 20. And that's still a lot.

That's 20,000 shells a week. Are the Patriots in place? Not yet. Apparently, they're coming this month. Our guys are training up really, really fast.

And we're also training on the Leopard tanks and the Challengers in the UK.

Sorry, the Bradleys are coming, apparently. And the Abrams tanks are going to take a little longer because they're much more. Which makes no sense to me. We have all these tanks. What do you mean?

The Marines gave up all their tanks. They didn't want them anymore. Where are they?

Well, you need apparently you need a huge logistics and maintenance battalions behind them, and that takes a while to put together. But we can't We can't live with the delivery time of the end of the year. I mean, we have to start to take this window of opportunity where the Russians are hurting and they're on the back foot and they're running out of ammo. They're using these tanks from World War II now coming to the front lines. We need to take advantage of that with modern equipment, and that means we've got to move by April, May.

Do you believe the Chinese are prepared to give them lethal weapons? Brian, this is a real big game changer if it happens, because it means that this is no longer a regional or European conflict. It becomes a global conflict. This will be a direct challenge to the United States. And that's sort of the Chinese are sort of the elephant in the room in all of this.

I think it's, you know, dictators like to work with other dictators. They feel comfortable. And I think that the whole world, including Americans and Europeans, are finding that there's a cost to doing business with dictators. They're already making moves to overthrow the Moldovan government, I heard? They would certainly like to do that.

The idea of the whole Russian way of waging warfare is hybrid. Infiltrate. Infiltrate and mix it up, psychological warfare. Create situations you can take advantage of.

Well, one thing you've shown the whole world how tough you are as a country, how determined you are, how you're willing to fight. And I think Ukraine is synonymous with toughness and savvy and grit from here on in. And hopefully, this is the year you go for the complete win, Dan. Stay safe. Thank you.

Thank you, Brian. And, you know, God bless the people of the United States of America. Without you, we never could have gotten this far. And hopefully, we can get this done this year together. Yeah, absolutely.

Great to see you, Dan Bilak. Dr. Drew Pinski is next. Brian Kilmicho.

So glad you're here. A radio show like no other. It's Brian Killmade. There was a study recently that we can make available to you where a group of highly qualified Evolutionary virologist looked at the sequences and the mutations that it took to get to the point where it is now is. Totally consistent with a jump.

of a species from an animal to a human. Really? Did he mention the fact that he commissioned that study, even picking the doctors and told them what to do? And then he pretends as if this independent study popped up and he's just quoting it.

Well, you just picture that. Fauci sitting there with the microphone just over his head, and then President Trump and Vice President Pence standing behind him because all years. This was early on, April of 2020. Remember that. Dr.

Drew Pinsky does, board-certified internist addiction medicine specialist, host of Ask Dr. Drew, the Adam and Drew Show, and Dr. Drew After Dark. Dr. Drew, welcome back.

Great job on Cutfell last night. Thank you. Uh why are you up so late? Are you on the west coast? Yeah, well they they have it at eight o'clock here.

They don't they don't have it up late. It's much easier to watch. And uh it really was a great group. It was really a lot of fun watching you guys and um Vivek is an interesting dude, isn't he? Yeah, he is running for president, Vivek Ramaswamy, and he, along with Nikki Haley, two American Indian.

Mm. Running for president. That's underappreciated. But, Dr. Dr.

Drew, first off, you went through this every step of the way. We kind of talked throughout the whole pandemic. How does it make you feel that he commissioned the study that he quoted? It is so. confusing and I understand why people are up in arms.

When I saw The headline, I thought, well, there it is. There it is. He is a good accident. actively hiding something. I was very concerned.

In the Twitter files, you see this email chain. where evolutionary biologists, virologists are talking with Dr. Fauci, saying that they believe there's an up to an 80-20 probability that this is lab leak. The email chain goes silent. Then a week later, the Nature article comes out.

So I thought, wow, I was sort of excellent. Exorcised about this. And I think the basis for that. feeling is the fatigue. Tea.

And the outrage we all are feeling feel about the government overreach throughout the entirety of this pandemic mess. It's just enough already and When people want to feel vindicated for having been Push down. profoundly been disquieted. washed by you know their every freedom is removed from them But I would caution people, this is a moving target. It is terribly complicated.

I thank God I did my due diligence and I went and I pulled the article. that Dr. Fauci is referring to in that particular Uh moment at the podium. And The fact is, the argument is written by people who are quite substantial. You can go listen to their interviews.

You will be persuaded that these are virologists. of highest standing just trying to do their work. talk about the time and the interviews I've heard with them. That The fact was they presented this evolutionary biology that appeared in that paper before Dr. Fauci asked them to, hey, put that out in a paper.

People are going to want to hear this. He didn't, you know, he may have been motivated. My other, you know, we don't Saying that, but But to share science. with the world was nothing. It was not a paper.

It was a correspondence.

So, the thing that got me was like, how do they publish a paper in seven days?

Well, it was a correspondent, and it was like six weeks. weeks. between the conferences and when the correspondence came out. Of course, Nature was very excited to push this out. The problem is that there's political energy around every side.

So the reality Is so I went and looked at the paper. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

And yet, there are three cases of acute viral pneumonia. from the lab in November, December that have yet to be identified. And right now, as of This minute, there's a House bill that was just put out, let me read you the title, to require the Director of National Intelligence to declassify information regarding the origin of COVID-19. And my belief is Even though the evidence is compelling, the evolutionary biology is rather astonishing frankly I still and by the way the good Yeah. I'll just take the position.

Yeah.

but we're open to any new science, new information. And my belief is, my suspicion is. Is you're going to get from the Intelligence people. evidence of the fact that those three illnesses at the lab. Mm-hmm.

Fact, COVID-19. I'm just gonna jogging my memory, Dr. Drew.

So I remember that. People came up.

So tell us about that again, these illnesses that came up along the way. There is lots of evidence in the evolutionary biology and in the genetic material. that suggests evolution through There's actually epidemiology data that sort of locates the initial infections around the Wuhan market. But there still remains this fact that There were three cases of pneumonia. And by the way, China clamped down on everything immediately.

So they actually couldn't do the the very sort of A smoking gun style. science they needed to do to actually These are all referential sort of Evidentiary kind of stuff. But the fact that there was three cases at the lab was Will be sufficient to locate the outbreak at the lab. But the problem is, those people were marginalized. No one could get at the information.

I'm assuming the intelligence officials have some. Data. Right, and a couple of things. We know the WHO director was put there by China. George Bush didn't think it was that big of a deal.

Turns out he was actually. Totally useless at a time when she needed him most.

Well, Brian, the thing I'm learning, I do these screamy shows on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday at 3 o'clock, and particularly on Wednesday, we speak to very controversial figures. We pull. Platform at people. It's like, how dare I talk to people that are controversial? It's really the craziest thing in the world to me that people are.

My peers even are trying to compare. Compel my speech and compel other people's speech. And my natural reaction is: no, sunlight, let it bring it all into the open.

So I interview people that I don't necessarily agree with. But there's always interesting information to be gleaned from these people. And the one thing that is sort of accumulating in my mind, and has made my wife actually apoplectic. is we have really sorely misjudge who China is. And if you take if you get if you Get used to thinking.

what actually their set of priorities are and how they operate. things start to make more sense.

Now, I don't want to be in any way conspiratorial. I'm trying to be actually culturally sensitive. And politically accurate to what their system is and how they operate. But if you come at it from that perspective, You really start to see a story evolving here. Mm-hmm.

uh that we from a business and scientific standpoint have been sort of drawn into a relationship that is Yeah. Treachery, and we've been hoodwinked many times. Right.

And I think the line in the sand could actually unite the country. We've got to stop with our schools. We've got to stop with our investment.

Sorry, but we need to, we have a common enemy. Let's rally together to try to get close. I don't say defeat, but manage this situation that we've gotten ourselves in. Exactly, because President Xi yesterday in his comments, he's never been more belligerent, direct, and blaming of the U.S. A couple of things happen.

If you want to say lab leak and a smart person like Dr. Drew sits across and says, no, it came from a natural environment, I'd like to see the debate. But the last thing I want to do is try to destroy Dr. Drew for not having the opinion that I want him to have with Shadow Bennett Bennett, which that creates anger. And then we find out that you were right.

And then people go, Are you kidding me? I'll never trust you again, hence what happened in Ohio. The APA comes down and says the the air is fine. They go, Gail, like hell it is. Uh why would I ever drink the water and listen to you?

So I want to bring you to uh what Jim Jordan brilliantly outlines what's going to be going, how they're going to go over it this week. Listen. First on the COVID issue, understand that on January 31st, 10.32 p.m. 2020, so right at the get-go, Dr. Fauci gets an email from Dr.

Christian Anderson, which says, virus looks engineered, virus not consistent with evolutionary theory. The next day, he gets another email from Dr. Gary.

Now, these are doctors he's handed out our tax dollars to over the years. Dr. Gary's email says, I don't know how this happens in nature. It would be easy to do in a lab. That same day, February 1st, 2020.

So again, right at the start, that same day, Dr. Fauci organizes a conference call. Him and Dr. Collins get on there with Dr. Gary.

Dr. Anderson, all these other virologists, they get on there. And three days later, everybody changes their story. That that would Go ahead. Yeah.

Yeah.

That right there is The focal point of my concern. That was where I was concerned. I'm reaching out to Dr. Christian. Anderson and Dr.

Eddie Holmes. I want to speak to them. I'm wide open to their point of view. I want to hear what these are legit. really substantial scientists and good men, good people.

And what happened? Were they hoodwinked? Were they manipulated? Uh did th was it were they c you know un uh convenient uh dupes or Or were they right? We have to steal.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's a study: major reasons why Americans say they lack trust in the CDC for accurate COVID-19 information. 74% said political influence on recommendations. 73% have given too many conflicting recommendations. And the third biggest reason is the private sector influence on recommendations and policies.

If I have to think about what's my objective, if I walk into my doctor and he says, you have allergies, you're going to need this medication, and I have to think, okay, who's he in bed with? Pfizer or Moderna? What does he really add? What if I said to me, how much money would he make if he said I wasn't sick? I don't have to think like that, but now America has to think like that.

Yeah.

I love my profession and my peers. I thought it was the most important job in the world. I've never been more demoralized and sort of disgusted. Uh Yeah. the world's sort of perception of us.

Um And and we all everyone agrees in science and medicine that the that the pandemic was bungled. The insane thing is no one can even agree what they mean by that. And that's And you know, to me, it's like, yeah, the overreach, the lockdowns that don't work, maybe sh you know, again, short-term lockdowns. Yes, try to get to a vaccine, but then get over your skis and now lockdowns for two years. The schools closed for two years.

Pediatric vaccines mandated.

Well, that wasn't where we started. We started with: let's get some time, 15 days of solutions. No and let's let's get this thing under control. And then Then localize, focus our Efforts. None of that.

It became this weird. Yeah.

So weird. Why people wanted to comply with that and why people felt it was their Job? To force people into these situations. It's all very confusing to me, but I'm trying my best to keep an open mind and try to come to some understanding of this. But I will tell you that the overreach and the sense of.

Well, this one glitch we have in our Constitution where we give absolute fiat authority to public health officials during an emergency. People felt that, and they do not feel good about it, and they've got to solve that problem.

So, you're in the real world, and you're in the entertainment world, you're in the news world.

So, you got this degree, you go to all these years of colleges, and you try to persuade people to your point of view, and you want to debate people. But the person that made the biggest impact that I was happiest to hear was when Jon Stewart hopped on Stephen Colbert's show. And said this. There was a chance that this was created in a lab, there's an investigation. A chance?

Well, I don't know if you can. I think there's evidence I'd love to hear. There's a novel. respiratory coronavirus overtaking Wuhan, China. What do we do?

Oh, you know who we could ask? The Wuhan novel respiratory coronavirus lab. The disease is the same name as the lab. How did that happen?

Maybe a bat flew into the cloaca of a turkey and And then it sneezed into my chili and now we all have coronavirus. Like, come on.

So he went on and he said he was called alt-right. He was ripped for that. Not that I have sympathy for him or I feel bad for him at all, but he just said what everybody was thinking. But he was Jon Stewart, the liberal who focuses on conservatives, saying that to the guy he mentored and put in that position.

So, what was significant about that? We need our comedians. That's what's significant about that. But he was speaking the truth. Yeah, that's the comedian's job.

is to expose the truth, to talk Truth to power. Where that where what happened to that? the journalists and all this. But but in that then In him being characterized as altright is the craziest thing to me. And same with who.

Who was it, Woody Harrelson the other day who gave out that subliminal message about vaccines? For him. Three. it up. Bring it.

Let's get this conversation going. But we have got Here's what I caution against. I was thinking about this as this. Morning, which is that On the right, there's a tendency to shift. shrink into Yeah.

Yeah.

and you sort of get in your own little Um you know, uh uh silos where you you don't trust anything on the outside. And the left gets into this projection and acting out in anger. Both are impossible to deal with. We've got to get in the middle somewhere and start sharing ideas and come to the truth. True.

Dr. Drew, when do we see you? When do we hear you? I think your audience would like the streaming shows we do. I'm going to be actually answering questions today at 3 o'clock Pacific time.

Drdrew.tv is where you can find it. And then tomorrow, I think we have a famous physician in who has been silenced, of course. That's whom we talk to. And I I team up on Wednesdays with this woman named Kelly Victory, who's an ER doctor. who has a lot of different opinions than me, which is Good.

This is good. I just think we have to Get everybody onto the ship and let's just start finding the truth. Yeah, wouldn't it be great if Anthony Fauci had that attitude? You know, you guys have different opinions. Let's hear it.

Let's hear it. He was my hero. back in the AIDS pandemic. This is somebody I've followed for my entire career. And so I continue to hope.

There'll be a reversion to the mean here, where he will be in some way At least a Appreciate it or vindicate it because right now it does not look good. It does not look good. But you always do. Dr. Drupinski, thanks so much.

Thank you, sir. All right.

When we come back, I'll finish up with your calls. You listen to the Brian Kill Meat Show.

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Well, thank God I'm not George Santos, said George Santos. Fishermen in Florida have discovered a 214-year-old clam that was born the same year as Abraham Lincoln. The clam credits his longevity to staying away from the theater. It's pretty funny. That's very funny.

Yeah.

Just a quick thing: I'll be a goody-goody burger. It's a weird name, but they say it's a legendary place in Tampa. For breakfast. For breakfast tomorrow from six to nine. Yes.

So if you want to come down before the radio show. And you don't have to have a burger. No, I assume they have breakfast. At first I said, Why we had a lunch place? And they said, No, it's breakfast.

I'm like, Why would anybody who want a breakfast go to a lunch place? But uh they say, you know, it's a legendary place in the Tampa area.

So if you're in the Tampa area, start driving. If not, and be there tomorrow between six and nine, I'll t I'm gonna work the room, you'll probably be on T V.

So that, and then we're gonna go and do the show from in Tampa, and then we're gonna spend a day with Governor DeSantis. Yes. Or a couple hours. A couple hours. Let's see.

Just a typical day for you, doing three million things with you. And then we're going to go home. Same night. Assuming the airlines cooperate. Yeah, we have Nick Swisher coming down from the Yankees, right?

And then Jason, who was kind enough to hook this up, just said to me, Brian, why don't you just stay and go to the game? I like Have you met us? Like, we got to go. We can't stay and go to a game. We got to hop on a plane and go back.

Well, or your question is like, well, what kind of package can I shoot at the game so I can continue to work? Right, yes, because I want to be able to write the trip off. Although, this is Swain. If you do want to get me anything, Eric, if you're going to get me something that last year, you got me five-hour energy, but if you're looking to get me something next year, a private jet. That would I mean, I'd be surprised.

Don't worry about that. I will put it on the list. Right.

It's easy to wrap. No, you don't in a situation like that, show me a picture. You don't have to wrap. Or just the red bow. That would be great.

Yeah, this is the bow on the plane. If you look at it, and then you'd get something separate. Don't don't jump in with Eric. You'd have to get something else. Don't be like, me, Eric and Pete got you this.

No, no. You'll still have to get me your own gift. I mean, we could all chip in to buy you oatmeal and five-hour energy, but we can't do it for the plane. Right, one of you get the plane.

Okay. Right.

You do actually pull everything, don't you? And you carry it in. You get me survival goods. You're like, if I'm gonna go camping. With almond milk.

I mean, basically, we buy you anything that either you don't need to add anything to or hot water, and then you're good. Right.

And so far, I've been doing this thing. It's effective, but I don't really eat anything besides a cup. I have a cup of coffee. Up until then. How long have I been doing this now?

It's been a while, right? I think so. Of course. I mean, I'm just what you tell me. You don't know.

Have you seen me eat anything? Today, no. For a while. A long time. It's a long time.

But I it's not really working. Why not? You know what? Maybe it is well. You seem happy enough.

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