Chinese spy balloon sails over U.S., Pentagon declines to shoot it down...

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We have a lot to discuss today and some surprising topics, to say the least. Admiral James Darvitis will handle it all, talk about Ukraine and along with what's going on with China, as well as the Secretary of State's imminent visit there. And then we're going to look at the economy. The economy added 500,000 plus jobs. This past period.

Wow, 500,000. They expected 185. Why was that number so extraordinarily high? I'm glad the number looks positive. But all I'm seeing is Walmart.

Goldman Sachs All these people laying off workers. Amazon. And yet the numbers on the other side just keep adding unemployment drops. Um wh while people statistically keep tapping into their four hundred one K to make ends meet. Let's get to the big three.

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Elon Omar, unsavory behavior and beliefs, got her ousted from the House majority from the Foreign Relations Committee. All is very dramatic fashion. You just heard the Democratic response. It is going to, you're going to hear it shortly. It is unhinged.

Number two. China has plenty of low Earth orbit satellites that have much greater visibility and much higher clarity and can do a lot better spying than what this thing does.

So that's why I think this is probably some sort of message. China offensive. A spy balloon flies over our nukes in Montana as Chinese companies buying up private schools and boarding schools. Chinese real estate companies are scooping up our land in and around military facilities and pouring hundreds of millions into our colleges. What will it take for this administration to realize we're under a slow-motion invasion?

Number It seemed that the letter was an implicit admission, I'd say almost an express admission, that this was his data. I don't know why they didn't realize it up until now, the import of what they had done. Yeah, they did a letter two days ago, yesterday, that said that the laptop is Hunter's and he's going to sue the laptop repair owner who cycled the information when they had no legal grounds to do it since he abandoned the laptop and he gave it to the FBI initially. But still, they're going to sue. But along the way, they admitted the laptop is there and tried to walk it back.

Hunter's offensive blows up in his own camp as attorneys try to walk back the top admission as links between the dad's papers and policies overlap with Hunter's. Antics, and that's where we'll begin. First off, it's amazing to me that Hunter Biden, in a panic because the Republican House-led majority will be investigating him, but not how it relates to him, but how it relates to his dad, called on some friendly prosecutors to go ahead and go after the laptop owner, I guess, Fox News, any outlet that reports some of the pictures and documents on that laptop, which everybody told us was fake.

Now we find out that it's real, even though we knew that for years. Years. Remember, Hunter Biden repeatedly said the laptop, which he's suing because people are cycling it. Was not his. Cut one.

Was that your laptop? For real? I don't know. I know, but you know what? I really don't know what the answer is.

You don't know yes or no if the laptops are. I don't have any idea. I have no idea what that is.

So it could have been yours. Of course, certainly. There could be a laptop out there that was stolen from me. There could be that I was hacked. It could be that it was Russian intelligence.

It could be that it was stolen from me. Yeah, or it could just be yours, and you forgot you left it there. What is the big deal? Only how it relates to the international business deals that his dad and brothers attached to, uncle in his case. Remember Joe Biden, knowing that the laptop is real, obviously comfortable lying, cut to.

I don't think that the stories. From the fall of Valerie Son Hunter, we're running this information as a career kick in which... Yes, yes, yes. God love you, man. You're a one-horse pony.

There's nothing too many of that. Nothing to any of that. It's all a smear. There are 50 former national intelligence folks. who said that what this he's accusing me of is a Russian plan.

So All I can tell you is when you catch somebody lying, just notice their body language and the way they deliver because that's how they'll lie again. He lied on that stage. I knew it. People at Fox knew it. Nobody else was acknowledging it or took the time to look at it.

Remember when John Brennan and James Clapper said this? Cut three. As I and several of my former colleagues have pointed out publicly, that it does bear the hallmarks of Russian disinformation. To me, this is this classic a textbook, Soviet Russian Tradecraft at Work. And so all of a sudden, two and a half weeks before the election, this laptop appears somehow.

So now they're going to sue. The computer repair owner. Small business. Gets the repair. Does the repair Repeatedly calls Hunter.

It becomes his after a certain period of time, looks at it, sees all this disturbing information, gives it to the FBI, and now they're going after him.

So here is Brian de la Roca. On with Tucker last night, and he was on with me two hours ago, talking about how gutless it is to go after. John Paul Mac Isaac, CUD 9. When I read the letters, I was appalled. This is really.

Um someone with so much money or acting like they have a lot of money, going after someone who is really the little guy. And he's doing it on purpose. He's trying to intimidate. And it's interesting to me that This happened when it did because As you may know, we filed a lawsuit against numerous parties, CNN, Politico, but one of the parties is Hunter Biden. It was very difficult to find where he was.

You know, he was in DC for a couple weeks and he was moving around.

Well, we finally tracked him down and we were able to serve him last week. And Now, all of a sudden, we see this.

So they served Hunter Biden. They are suing him. And they're getting back at him. For making John Pomack Isaac's life hell. And the FBI should be ashamed of themselves for holding onto that laptop, treating him poorly, and then going out and game planning a ways to strategize against it when Rudy Giuliani got a hold of it, and then they come out for two years, called him a liar.

And now it turns out he's being sued and telling the truth. We knew the truth, and so did you. Real quick, because I I want to get to my two great guests. I have a great economist, E.J. Antonio, research fellow for the Regional Economics of the Heritage Foundation.

He's going to be talking about making sense of these numbers. And also at the bottom of the hour, we're going to talk about what's happening in Ukraine. But I do want to talk about this Chinese spy balloon. In case you don't know, flying just above airspace, where you might get a plane, but below where you get a satellite, there's a Chinese spy balloon. It went over the Aleutian Islands outside Alaska through Canada, and now it's hovering in Montana, where they say there's a military base and nuclear sites there.

The president said, let's shoot it down. The F-22s are there. And then at the last moment, the Pentagon says, I don't think it's a real good idea. Here's what they told Jennifer Griffin. Our great Pentagon reporter, a well-placed senior source official.

The president's considering a variety of options how to deal with the Chinese spy balloon that is currently over the continental U.S. The options presented to the president from the National Security team include concerns that if the military shot down the balloon, there could be some civilian casualties. While the White House has not ruled out shooting down the spy balloon, if it was deemed safe to do so, there is more than just a balloon, I am told. There is heavy equipment hanging below the balloon, which came crashing to the ground, crashed to the ground. Listen, we get ready for hurricanes, we got tornadoes, we got tidal waves, we got tsunamis.

You get these people out of the rough region. Montana is wide open. I'm sure you've seen the maps in the pictures. You take this thing down. It's of national security.

Steve Daines of Montana is beside himself. The governor is upset by this. The people of Montana would understand. The Chinese are taunting us, and we are failing the tough test. It's in my view.

When we come back, we'll talk about the economy. Bottom of the hour, we'll talk about Ukraine and what. The Russians are doing and planning by March It is estimated the Russians have lost. two hundred thousand soldiers. in one year two hundred thousand More to come.

They don't care about their people. What does that mean for the ultimate objective? We'll discuss it. You'll listen to the Brian Kilmey Show. Diving deep into today's top stories, it's Brian Kilmead.

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It's Brian Killmead. My colleagues and I understand the hardship that high inflation is causing, and we are strongly committed to bringing inflation back down to our 2% goal. Over the past year, we've taken forceful actions to tighten the stance of monetary policy. We've covered a lot of ground, and the full effects of our rapid tightening so far are yet to be felt. Even so, we have more work to do.

do. What does that mean? That's the Fed chair talking about more work to do. Ed Antoni joins us now, Research Fellow for the Regional Economics at the Heritage Foundation. E.J., welcome.

Brian, thank you for having me.

So first off, read between the lines on what the Fed Chair said this week. Oh, goodness. We have more work to do, which means more rates to hike. Right. What is the Sphinx trying to tell us here?

Yeah, most likely the Fed chair is telling us we're going to continue to look at the data, and until the specific metrics that we want to see go down actually fall, we're going to stay the course.

So I guess the other number that came across was a half hour ago. We have added 517,000 jobs. We were supposed to add 185, and that was going to be okay. How do you explain this enormous number? This looks like.

Fantastic news. Oh, it certainly does, but the problem is it sticks out like a sore thumb. And when we look at all of the other data, it doesn't matter if it's coming out of government agencies like the Bureau of Economic Analysis or other data from the Department of Labor. We can look at data from the regional Federal Reserve Banks or even private payroll companies. Nothing is lining up with today's report.

Because we feel we just keep reading about massive layoffs, but it's not figuring into the job market. And I think this might caught other people by surprise. You would tell me up in the elevator, where we're going up, that this usually a month it lags because coming out of the holiday season, a lot of times you lay off that help. Exactly. And so the Bureau of Labor Statistics seasonally adjusts the data to try to account for that.

But it's been really clear over the last year or two that all of their different adjustments are not working properly. We have some real statistical problems, I think, with these surveys. And you can actually go on to their website and look at what the response rates are for these surveys, and that has been going down.

So now you have unemployment at 3.3 percent. You wouldn't think if that number was taking place, you wouldn't consider, you wouldn't you'd be surprised that consumer spending is actually slowing down. Exactly. We just saw consumer spending decrease for the last two months, not just in terms of dollars, but in terms of also the actual amount of stuff people are buying. The consumer is seriously strapped for cash right now.

So they're tapping into their 401k because this administration made it easier, the penalty is less, to do that. But you don't do that. You do that as a last resort. Exactly. So what does that say?

Right. Well, I mean, look at what the data shows, right? We lost over $1.5 trillion in savings over the course of last year. Real disposable income dropped by over a trillion dollars. That was, in percentage terms, the second worst drop ever behind just the Great Depression year of 1932.

So the idea that the consumer is somehow in a great position here and everyone has jobs and the economy is doing great, I mean, this is literally the single data point that points to that. Everything else points the opposite direction.

So right now, Fox News did a poll. It said, what concerns you most? Top of the list, 86% surveyed inflation and higher prices.

So that's just it. People talk about everything being more expensive and the ripple effect. I was in a cafe on Sunday, and I said, What's going on? He goes, Well, I feel terrible. I got to raise my price again.

And believe me, it's slower. I said, Why? He said, They're buying, it's a smoothie shop, cafe. They go, Every single thing I buy is three times more expensive. Everything.

So they don't know what to do on that end.

So less people are buying things. They have less disposable income. You got to raise your price. You're reluctant to do so. The part profit from margin gets less.

You would think that got a higher less. But the numbers in the economy defy that.

So, in the last quarter, the economy grew at 1%. What do you expect now? I think we'll probably continue to see a quarter or two of growth in that headline number before it flatlines and then turns south. But we want to actually look past just that headline number and read into the data a little bit. And you see a lot of things that give the appearance of growth, for example, but aren't actually real growth.

I think net exports is a great example of that. Because international trade is shrinking. But Imports are shrinking faster than exports. You're worse off because of that, right? Except it makes that headline number go up.

So it gives the appearance of growth even though there isn't any.

So interesting. The mortgage rates have fallen to 6% for the first time since September.

So the interest rates have fallen, even though the rate hike went up.

So what do you think is that doing to the real estate market? Have we felt it yet like you thought we would? Not yet. I mean, we're still just beginning to feel some of the effects from several months ago when rates first hit seven percent.

So the idea that things have completely sorted themselves out in the housing market, I think, is very premature. Steve Ratner was on another network, former Obama economist. And he's talked about how oil companies are making too much money. Cut 34. Certainly, we can do stuff on the tax side.

You're right. They have enjoyed unusually generous tax benefits for years, and they have a powerful lobby in Washington and have been able to maintain that. One of the things that we could think about, and there's pluses and minuses, is that the UK did put in a very substantial excess profits tax on the oil companies that produce oil out of the North Sea over in the UK, which is within their jurisdiction. We're talking about a windfall profits tax. The reason why oil is up is because they're not allowing the drilling, making the oil that we have more valuable, right?

It's exactly right. Absolutely. And if you want oil prices to come down, if you want to help bring down prices throughout the economy, frankly, you need to lower energy prices. People really underestimate, especially in this administration, how much energy affects everything we do and everything we buy. Do they not get that?

I mean, do they understand that these are not people looking to build extensions on their mansions? They're successful, sure. But it's all built into supply and demand and what they're able to produce. You know, I waffle back and forth between thinking these people are entirely incompetent and they know what they're doing because it is helping them achieve their end goal of this so-called green economy, right? What's the best way to force people to transition to solar and wind and all these other boondoggles?

It's to make fossil fuels so incredibly expensive that they're just unaffordable.

So we have nickel, we have lithium, we have cobalt, we all have it here. But they say on average it takes 10 years to get a mining permit and with the restrictions to make it to make it actually functional, 15 years.

So you're asking for to produce electric vehicles, but guess where they're going? They're going overseas to Indonesia and other places to get their rare earth. And it's got to get processed, guess where? China. And 85% of their chips are Taiwan.

For people who think that Taiwan's not our problem, wait until China absorbs. are the chip manufacturing. See you that's a national security issue. Absolutely. And we're sending jobs overseas effectively, right?

When you can't get all those materials here, as you said, when you're not allowed to process them here because of environmental regulations. I mean, how on earth is this green? How are we helping the environment by sending our production facilities over to China where they do things 10 times as dirty as we do? It's like cleaning up your house and dumping your garbage in your neighbor's lawn and thinking, you know, I've cleaned up the environment. No, you just pushed it.

That's exactly right. I mean, these people, it's as if they don't think that the atmosphere is entirely around the globe, as if that air, that dirty air, will just stay over China. And finally, E.J. Antonio here from Heritage: your prediction: will we have a recession? Will it be a soft landing as some have projected?

I think a lot of that just depends on what the Federal Reserve does. I think we're definitely going to see a recession later this year. How hard that's in Powell's hands. E.J., great to see you. You too.

Thanks so much. That's your economic insight.

Now, the worldview of Admiral James Stavritas. Information you want, truth you demand. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. We would never have the capability of having the balloon in mainland China, but I think the Pentagon's.

Solution to this might be ongoing, and I think it's a living narrative because there are options on the table. And we also want to be able to see two things: technically, what they're collecting on and counter-collect, and be able to understand that. But secondarily, look at the geopolitical risk associated with shooting it down and not shooting it down. Geopolitically, the fact that the Communist Party of China has a balloon so low in our atmosphere collecting our infrastructure is disturbing to the American people. I would think that's Bill Avana, former counterintelligence chief on Fox News last night.

Joining us now, Admiral James Cervitas, the 16th Supreme Allied Commander at NATO, member of the Kyle Out Group, author of his latest book, To Risk It All, Nine Conflicts and the Crucible of Decision. Admiral. If I told you right now, I gave you these circumstances, a Chinese balloon, surveillance balloon over Montana, would you take it out? If I could do it in a way that ensured there wasn't some kind of debris field that came down unpredictably, and I'd be pushing the Pentagon right now to show me the options. And I think that as we track the balloon and figure out where it's going to go next, two things which your previous guest just mentioned really matter.

One is what the hell is it doing there? And we could probably learn more about that listening to it, tracking it, pushing it, pinging on it, see what comes back than we can just blowing it up. And number two, we ought to let the geopolitics play out a little bit here. I think in the last hour, Brian, you've probably seen these reports. China is saying, yes, it's our balloon.

If you said to me two days ago, hey, there's going to be a Chinese balloon floating over the United States, and there are two possibilities for why it's there. One is, Just buffoonery turned into balloonery. In other words, just they made a mistake, it shouldn't be there, or it's some kind of clever, nefarious plot. I think I'm going to go with door number one. Let's see what the Chinese have to say.

Let's collect on it. We can always shoot the thing down if we want to. Right, but I heard it's not the first time. You're reading the New York Times today, they've done it before. It's the first time, I guess, it got exposed by whether it's the naked eye or whether it's civilian aircraft.

Somehow they thought it was best interest to tell everyone. But how about the report not denied? The president said shoot it down, and the Pentagon talked him out of it. Having seen that report, my guess is the Pentagon's not talking the President into or out of anything, having been in that position too many times to count. What the Pentagon does is March over there with a bunch of options, probably five of them, one of which is the one I described.

Let's ping on it for a while and see what comes back. We can shoot it down later. They probably are concerned about the safety aspect of things.

So I wouldn't discount it entirely. But as your guest said a moment ago, it's a living narrative. Let's see what this one looks like 24 hours from now. Admiral, let me just give you a hypothetical. An American balloon flies over China.

How long is that balloon up in the air? About two and a half minutes, I would say, maybe. And yeah, I'm not disagreeing with the premise that we should take the balloon out. Although, you have to see kind of the comic aspect of this at some point. I just don't see this as life-threatening to the United States of America.

So, I think we can afford to take a breath, figure it out. See what the thing is doing, listen to what the Chinese have to say, then we can put it all together and maybe shoot it down tomorrow if we need to. Senator Dane's people in Montana go, excuse me, could you have told me this? The governor said, Really? Could you have mentioned this?

Unbelievable.

So, Admiral, I want to talk to you about Ukraine if we could. And it looks like, Brian, before we get off China, let me tell you the important story of the last few days about China, and it's a good story: is the idea that the Filipinos have walked away from China and are permitting access to the U.S. military in northern Philippines on the island of Luzon. That's a big deal. And the other story, entirely unreported, about a week ago, the Commandant of the Marine Corps is on the island of Guam, opening the first Marine Corps base, new base, in 70 years.

So we're pushing in on China. We should be doing that. I think that's Really, the story of China this morning, less the balloon. I did not know all the Philippines made a choice. I just thought they allowed us to expand because with all the Filipino islands, I didn't know.

But that is good news. I thought we were just increasing the presence. The fact that they walked away from China and to us is even better. And Japan building up their defense. Uh I love it.

So they're they're seeing and that scares the hell out of China. Which does bring us to Ukraine, because the reason a lot of this is occurring is because those nations are watching what Russia is doing in Ukraine and saying, hmm, I wonder if China could pull something like that in the Pacific. It has a way of clarifying where they want to align, and that's helpful to us.

So now we find out that Vladimir Putin, if we're to believe the report, said, I want all the Donbass by March. And that explains the call-up between 300,000 and 500,000 troops. Where are they getting them? I don't know. And they are being very aggressive in the winter in Ukraine.

And a desperate Zelensky said, West, give me some more weapons. This is to your advantage, too. What do you believe? I think it is likely that Putin is going to launch an offensive in the next month to three months, which of course would get us into the spring. I just Brian, I don't see the military capability in his hands to send three hundred to five hundred thousand troops Charging at Ukrainian lines.

He may surprise me, Russians. Have a lot of fortitude. They're willing to take huge casualties. We know that from World War II. But if you look at the difficulties he's had recruiting, the fact that 200,000 to 300,000 military-age males have departed the country in the face of this draft.

The fact that they have no training, they're not supplying them with any effective military capability. Boy, if he does launch a big offensive, I think they'll be shredded by the Ukrainians as long as we continue to provide the ammunition, the artillery rounds. We ought to do two things: we ought to get them the ATACMs, it's the long-range version of the HIMARS. You know that. And secondly, we ought to be getting them tactical jets because air cover will be very important in that scenario.

We could get them MiG-29s like Thursday from Poland, and we could get them into F-16s, trained in flying those in a month or so, which would still be germane if there is a spring offensive, which I suspect there will be.

So, Admiral, very few people have the contacts across both parties like you do. If you sound like somebody who might be. The conservative point of view that wants to that should be aggressive, General Jack Keene, for example, even though the conservatives seem to abandon this mission, and I don't get it. I think it's got to be effectively explained to the American people on a regular basis why this matters. But I do think that what you just said is so logical, but it doesn't seem to be resonating with the administration.

What are you hearing?

Well First and foremost, we ought to look at the history here, and the word is incremental. The administration, and this is a criticism, has been too incremental here. And the way the cycle tends to work is if you go back eight months ago, the Ukrainians were saying, we need a massive number of artillery shells. We need many, many more howitzers. And we said, no, let us think about it.

We'll study it for a while. Eventually, we ended up giving it to them. Same thing with tanks being the classic example, where five months ago, four months ago, the West was saying, no, tanks, too provocative.

Now they've got tanks.

So I think we are too incremental, but the history of this conflict over eleven months tells me we're going to give them combat aircraft.

Sometimes you got to just wake up and do what you know is going to happen anyway. Right, but the whole country is being destroyed in the mi in the interim and it's being reduced to rubble. But I mean, they're fighting and they're resilient, I get it.

So I looked at what Vladimir Putin said, this is like Stalingrad, and he predicts his victory. If you look back at Stalingrad, they lost between 1.7 and 2 million people. And that was a great victory. Two million people died, and they withstood it. But do you think, in this modern day and age, when you know there's people have options and many of which left the country rather than fight, do you think they've already lost 120,000 minimum in this one-year conflict that was supposed to last three days?

Do you think modern Russia? would be willing to digest five hundred thousand casualties? I do not. And a huge difference, of course, is, if you will, the Battle of Stalingrad, as far as the Russian population was concerned, happened offstage. You know, there wasn't coverage by Fox News and CNN and MSNBC and a thousand other networks and outlets.

Now, even with the control Wow, we just might have lost him. It sounded a little bit like an echo in the background, almost as if the phone was dropped, right?

So I'm going to give him a second to finish his thought. But he was just putting Stalingrad in in perspective. They had no choice. They were invaded.

So they had nowhere to run.

So the Nazis come in, they start killing everything they can. They do the scorched earth policy, which is.

So I'm just filling in. I mean, they had no choice in Lenin Stalingrad because the Nazis invaded.

So they had to fight. They had to fight in their own homes. They did the famous scorched earth policy. This is a war of choice. Don't they understand don't they don't the Russian people understand that?

Indeed, they do increasingly, Brian. And my view is, to answer the question before I got cut off, is that the Russian people will not stand because the old Battle of Stalingrad, World War two, happened offstage. It wasn't covered by the media the way this is. And increasingly, Russians are concerned and aware of this war. That's going to bubble into pressure on Putin over time.

Final thought, having said all that, Putin is really tapping deep into Russian DNA there, talking about Stalingrad. By the way, the city is not even called Stalingrad anymore. It was such a massive, massive destruction of life. It's now called Volgograd after the river that runs through it. I think he's playing with fire here, as he has been from the beginning of this.

I don't like his hand of cards at this point. All right. We'll see what other challenges we have. Admiral, I hope they listen to you, because if they do, the Ukrainians can make this a spring in which they win or push him back to at least to Crimea. Admiral James Charvidas, thanks so much.

Always, Brian, thanks a lot. Bye-bye. All right. When we come back, I'm going to open up the phone. It's 1866-408-7669.

To me, no doubt about it, that blows up that weather balloon. You tell the people of Montana, you give them 24 hours. You know about the debris field, roughly where it is. We understand hurricanes, tidal waves, tsunamis, tornadoes. We get it.

We know how to react. All of us on the coast, in the middle, I get it. We all understand it. It's going to blow up. That's it.

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This is about targeting women of color in the United States of America. Don't tell me because I didn't get a single attempt at all. Let me The gentlewoman's time has expired. On the Foreign Affairs Committee, her claim. The gentlewoman's time has expired and she is no longer recognized.

The GOP is now doing what it is best. At Weaponized. Hate against a black, beautiful Muslim woman. The gentleman's time has expired. The gentlewoman's time is a very important thing.

The gentleman's time has expired. Through this chamber, you belong to the battle. What an embarrassment the squad unleashed. This is who they really are. They'll pretend to be mainstream and mellowed out, but they aren't.

This is because a woman was pulled off foreign affairs. Why was she pulled off foreign affairs? Not even ousted from all committees. Because her anti-Semitic tropes, her anti-Israel beliefs, her comparing America and Israel to the Taliban and apartheid. Our b questionable background.

And she was pulled off, and they voted two thirds of every Republican voting. Let's get rid of her. And they sit there, scream, and just throw the rules out in the street and go right through the gavel. Here's Kaul Rofe. There's six major points that the Republicans outlined, by the way, and here's some of them.

Look, it was all about her. It was about her ego. You're absolutely right. She said, I'm a powerful voice that needs to be silenced. That's why this is happening to me.

There was nothing in those speeches that you showed, and nothing in her speech that dealt with the issue at hand, which is she described Jews as saying it's all about the Benjamins. And she accused Jewish Americans of having allegiance to a foreign state. She dismissed 9-11 by saying some people did something. She called the United States an apartheid regime, and she compared the United States and Israel to Hamas and the Taliban. And that's just the start.

This woman has made a history of anti-Israel, anti-Semitic, anti-Jewish comments. And you'll notice that nobody dealt with that. Nobody stood up and said you misunderstood her. Nobody stood up and said she apologizes. Nobody stood up and said you've misconstrued those things.

And she o the only thing I heard her say is all about the Benjamins. I didn't know there was a negativity towards uh the Jews or uh there was uh that was a Jewish trope. No one buys it. They say it's 'cause she's Muslim and black. Does a day go by where someone, some Republican's not accused, or some person's not accused of being racist?

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I don't think people should be doing it.

Next, fans start a petition to have Mama Kelsey do the coin toss at the Super Bowl. Preparations are underway, as you know, for the Super Bowl 57. Donna Kelsey will make her make history on February 12th when her sons Jason Kelsey of the Eagles, Travis Kelsey, the Kansas City Chiefs, take the field for the Super Bowl in Glendale. A change-dock competition started on January 31st with the simple goal: let Mama Kelsey toss the coin for the game. Do you think that'll happen?

I think it's a great idea, right? Wouldn't it be fun to see? It has over 34,000 signatures already. I think it would be pretty cool, but usually they have somebody from the military or some type of angle, usually don't pay to do it. We'll see how that goes.

But you know the biggest story about the Super Bowl. Is that you will be there? It's been underreported. Totally underreported. Totally underreported.

And I just want to be able to go with that story exclusively. We'll be doing the show there on Friday and on Monday. I'll be doing Fox and Friends there Saturday and Sunday. We'll have Friday night. We're going to have the One Nation show on Saturday.

So that'll be. On Saturday night, you're going to Shaq's dance party, and you said you were going to dance on the dance floor. I never said that. I think you're going to dance. I don't think that's been clarified at all.

I've never been down with Shaq. But Shaq wants to hang out with me. I think it's the story. Only if you dance. Not really.

I do know Shaq Hik's being a DJ. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show. Brian. In Kill Mead. Hi, everyone.

Welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kill Me Joe. Coming to you from 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan, heard around the country, heard around the world. Trey Yanks will be joining us from Ukraine, speaking of around the world. He just sat down with President Zelensky of Ukraine: what he wants, what he needs, and what he expects, and why he will not talk to Vladimir Putin. He has no interest, but wanted to talk to him before the war started almost a year ago.

And we know, too, the DNC is having their summit in Virginia. They're trying to get together and get a strategy together. The president and vice president is supposed to visit.

So let's get to, before we get to Jonathan Turley, to unwind what's going on with Hunter, let's get to the big three.

Now with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. I am Muslim. I am an immigrant. And interestingly, from Africa.

Is anyone Surprised that I am being targeted. Omar out, Elon Omar's unsavory behavior and beliefs. Got her ousted by a House majority from Foreign Relations Committee, but not all committees. All in a very dramatic fashion. They took it very, very strategically.

They had a meltdown. All went unhinged. I'm talking about the squad. Number two. China has plenty of low Earth orbit satellites that have much greater visibility and much higher clarity and can do a lot better spying than what this thing does.

So that's why I think this is probably some sort of message. China offensive. A spy balloon flies over our nukes, as China's companies buying up private schools, as China's real estate companies are scooping up our land while pouring money into our colleges. What will it take for this administration to realize we're under a slow-motion invasion? Number It seemed that the letter was an implicit admission, I'd say almost an express admission, that this was his data.

I don't know why they didn't realize it up until now, the import of what they had done. Andy McCarthy, weighing in. Hunter's offensive blows up in his own camp as his attorneys try to walk back their laptop admission as links between his dad's papers and policies overlap with Hunter's antics. With me right now is Jonathan Churley. Jonathan, were you astounded?

twenty four hours ago, when it was revealed by his attorneys that the laptop is real, they're going to sue the lab the computer store owner and anybody else that reports on it, and then they walk back over there, we're not saying it's real. Are you surprised by this?

Well, I am surprised by how long it took for them to recognize reality. Remember, this has been years in which Hunter Biden has maintained that this really could all just be Russian disinformation. And that was becoming increasingly comical. But that went to a rather bad comedy when they first issued this letter asking for criminal investigations of their critics and media. And then when they saw what they had just admitted to, they issued a second statement saying, well, these might not really be our files.

I mean, it's it's akin to asking the police to go search for a car that may or may not have been stolen, that may or may not be yours. I mean, it it it just left all of us scratching our heads. What the letter discussed were not just criminal investigations targeting critics, but threats of defamation and privacy. lawsuits. None of those claims Uh are credible.

Right, especially if you don't even admit that the laptop is yours.

So, if you go ahead and admit it's yours, you took it and you're making fun of me with it, and you've overstepped your bounds and violated my privacy.

Well, with what? With fake documents, fake emails, and fake pictures? You can't have it both ways. It's crazy. It doesn't help to be outraged that people are using a laptop that you abandon.

You know, Hunter Biden signed a very standard agreement that if he failed to retrieve his property after 90 days or whatever period, it was no longer his property. It was abandoned property. And that's the rule that applies to a great variety of what are called chattel that you leave with third parties.

So he was asked to pick up his computer repeatedly. He didn't do it. And eventually, it was no longer his computer.

Now the only other claim he can make is not that these were stolen, but that this is a tort called the public disclosure of embarrassing private facts. The problem with that toward action Which the which is the only one I can think of at the moment. is that there's an exception for things that are newsworthy.

Now, Hunter Biden may be a number of things and not a number of other things, but he is most certainly newsworthy. Yes, I would say that, especially as this And might be intelligence worthy, too, as some of this paperwork and these emails reveal business deals that could involve our national security, which is the whole point. It's not to point out embarrassing things about Hunter. It's talk about the deals in which he headed up that could involve his father, who, according to reports, is president. Here's Kevin McCarthy brought up something interesting.

He sees another strategy in the lawsuit, cut for the marriage. On Hunter Biden and his calls for a federal investigation now into the dissemination of the laptop, how is that going to impact your own investigations into him? I don't think anyway. I think it's delayed in his tactic. I think it's an attorney tactic to try to stop something.

The one thing I will say from that, he's acknowledging now it is his laptop. Um So He was a little slower than the rest of the papers and Twitter and the others, but now we know that it's true. And I think the investigations here, the uniqueness is you'll have Republicans and Democrats, and we'll get to the bottom of all that. Yeah, I mean, we should be able to do that, but what do you think about that? Is he trying to slow down the Republican investigator Republican-led House investigation?

Well, I think he's more likely trying to chill media organizations and other third parties from discussing these documents. It is an old trick. You shoot a couple of rounds across the bow of the media. You expressly threaten people like Tucker Carlson with defamation lawsuits. And it tends to reduce the number of people who are willing to report on the story.

So there's nothing new about it. I had a conversation yesterday with an editor who was jittery on this subject. And we talked about the letter. And as I explained, you know, I teach defamation. I said, you know, any anyone can say that they're going to sue you for defamation.

The question is, is it credible? This is not credible. I mean, the idea that Tucker Carlson would be sued for defamation because he believes the files show influence peddling is absolutely absurd. There are congressional committees looking into that question. Are you really going to sue someone in the media for sharing their opinion on what these files mean?

Obviously, this is just a thuggish effort to try to get people to stop talking about the laptop. But if that is, let's play that out.

Okay, you're saying that I'm using this. I'm trying, I'm erroneously saying that Hunter Biden was a part of an international plot setting up international business deals. Let's go through it. Can I see the emails? Can we see the companies?

Can I find Tony Bobolinski and can we get him to testify about these companies and the President's role in that? Should I continue? Devin Archer, who's in jail, can I talk about his role? Can we play this out? How would this not blow up in Hunter and the Biden family's face?

Well, that's the really bizarre thing to this, because I don't see any intelligent design. Behind this letter, the best you can say for it is it's an effort to knuckle or muscle critics into silence, but that's not going to work. But at worst, it could really backfire. I mean, let's say that they did sue someone for defamation of privacy. That would trigger depositions.

The defense to defamation is truth.

So Hunter Biden, who's avoided any testimony, any public statements about these influence peddling schemes, would have to sit for hours of deposition on that subject.

Now, even if Hunter Biden is delusional enough to trigger that type of deposition, his father will be left in a virtual fetal position at the very thought of it. I mean, you know, after all of the effort of the Biden to silence the scandal, his son's tripping wires and litigation.

So, what do you think when they came out and said, we're not saying that the laptop is real? Do you think the White House got in front of Abby Lowell and said, are you nuts? You've done the impossible. You actually made things worse? Do you get the sense that someone got involved there?

Well, I think that this is the weird thing about the Biden administration. Even though the narrative is completely ridiculous, you know, this continued effort to say, well, we really don't know if it's his laptop. The Biden administration has just stayed with Narratives, even when they don't work. An example of that is the White House press briefings and refusing to discuss anything about the Biden documents. People cringe.

As Jean-Pierre says over and over again, we've been very transparent, we're cooperating, and by the way, we will answer nothing. But the White House here, I'm sure, was really alarmed because this is giving them even the pretense that they had before. And what's interesting, though, is that this is collapsing across the board. You have media organizations, the New York Times you know, and and oth the the Washington Post and other papers. that waited t roughly two years.

before they admitted the laptop. was authentic.

Now many of us started writing about the laptop before the election. And noted that the laptop emails were self-authenticated because they had. third parties that were confirming they did receive. The emails. But it took two years for the media to be comfortable enough to say, yeah, it wasn't Russian disinformation after all, it really is hunters.

But the last dog in this fight are the Bidens. And I think that what a lot of people from the White House are saying is we know no one believes us, but if we start to admit it is his laptop, it means that all of those pictures of taking drugs Having sex with prostitutes. Talking about foreign deals. Are also legitimate. And it's better for us just to say that we don't know rather than answer those questions.

Right, fascinating.

So I know you've been mentioning sort of the last few days. But there are 1,850 boxes of files from the then Vice President's DC office that were delivered to the University of Delaware on June 12th. 33 pallets carried by two trucks, going to multiple reports. The person who put that all together was a former business partner of Hunters, who delivered Eric Sherwin. He communicated with Biden's deputy counsel, Catherine Owama and Michael Monaghan in the lead up to the delivery.

So he coordinated it.

So Hunter involved in all this stuff. People look at one of these communications with one of his days on Burisma about intelligence he suddenly had on Russia, oligarchs, and said, did he get that from intelligence? And now we're finding out that the president held back some classified documents when he was senator. Why are we not at the University of Delaware with the FBI going through those 1,850 pages?

Well, again, this is what's so insulting about public positions of the government is that there's no reason, eighty miles away from the Rehoboth Beach house, where they were looking for one or two documents, is a trove of thousands of documents. And yet the FBI essentially drove right by there, went and searched a vacation home and then went back to Washington.

So the university says, nope, we're not going to be releasing any documents until two years after Joe Biden retires. That wouldn't apply to the FBI, though. No, it wouldn't. And the press has been really docile on this because this is the president that says, I believe in absolute transparency. And says you can take the word of a Biden.

Well, fine, take the word of a Biden. Be transparent. But they're doing this first and foremost because they didn't want people to look at these records when there were sexual harassment allegations raised against the President. And University of Delaware allowed itself to be converted into a giant lockbox for the Biden family. And it's disgraceful.

Jonathan Turley with us. Jonathan, lastly, you're in the business of trying to detect the truth full time. Knowing what we know about the laptop and logic, what we've known for two and a half years, but now everybody agrees it's his, and the president's communicated with it. His voice is on there. Listen to this in re in perspective of what we now know, cut to.

Silva. I think that the stories from the fall about recycling service were right Yes, yes, yes. God love you, man. You're a one-horse pony. There's nothing too many of that.

Nothing to any of that. It's all a smear. There are 50 former national intelligence folks. who said that what this he's accusing me of is a Russian plan.

So he knows it's true. He doesn't, he ducks and says it's not true. He said the same, that was from the debate stage. Does it uh worries me as an American that he's that comfortable lying?

Well, he was lying and knowingly and repeatedly, including in a presidential debate. And that is, in my view, beyond question. What's really alarming Is that while the p the press has quietly admitted that the laptop is authentic, They have conspicuously avoided the tapes that you just played. They're not confronting the president saying, Why did you lie to us over and over again? Your voice is on these tapes.

You met with, according to a witness, with Bubelinski. To discuss these deals, you met with associates. There's photographs of you, there's dinners that were held.

So why did you lie to us? That question is not being asked. by anyone other than Fox and a couple of other uh organizations. Question is: If he sits down on Super Bowl Sunday with the network, the host network, that's called Fox. It'd probably be Shannon Bream.

I guarantee you that question will be asked. And then Shannon's perfect for this. I gotta tell you, she is as. Smart is a whip. And she's, you know, she's that sort of iron fist in a silk glove.

So that is one interview I will not miss. Right. And plus, you should watch the game too, Jonathan. It's going to be a good game. I am going to watch the game, but you know what?

You should be ashamed to even mention it because you're getting a ticket to go see it. Oh, my goodness. This attack that comes from the turley camp is just totally unwarranted. Jonathan, thanks so much. Awesome segment.

Thanks for insight. Back in a moment. It's Brian Gilmade. A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kill Me Show.

And I talked to somebody today who got canceled a few years ago, and he said something I thought was very interesting: that it's almost better if you're accused of a crime, because then you could fight back, or if you're convicted, You could serve the time and then you could come back. But right now, the people who wanted him canceled in the first place hound him every month, and he's reminded of that. And he's not been able to fully recover, though he puts on a pretty brave face. And that's only one person that I know. Kill me.

Kill me. People.

So that was Dana Prino last night on Gutfeld, or was it on the five? It was on Gutfeld. On Gutfeld. Yes.

So, yeah, who was she talking about? That is the question. I mean, you guys are friends. You probably could text her to get an answer. I know, but then she would tell me, I did not give the name for a reason.

I'd feel I'd be holding it back from my audience. Maybe I should do the Joe Biden. Don't tell me what you found in my office. I just don't remember. Right.

Yeah.

So it may be plausible deniability. It's so interesting that Dana would have such a great time on the five that she'd waltz over and do more Gutfeld on his show. And it's an hour. I mean, you can't just go in for a statement. You got to stay there for the whole hour.

I mean you're saying she's lazy and wouldn't want to do that? I'm just saying, how much gutfeld can one person take? I mean, Tyrus doesn't do the five very rarely. He fills in for guttfeld. Exactly.

But I feel like the country wants a lot of gutfeld.

Well, if you look at the ratings. Yes.

But I try not to make that a big deal because if it's possible, his ego gets even bigger. And Kill Mead this monolithic gut filled. Right. A radio show like no other. It's Brian Killmead.

At this moment, your troops in the East are bracing for a new Russian offensive. What is your assessment of the situation along the front lines?

Well this situation on Frontline is complicated. It wasn't easy for me. For over a year we have this war People are exhausted, but still there is this resilience of our soldiers. It's important to have the resilience among the people. There's this high level of morale and Russia is preparing for the remanch.

We can feel this. I believe that it has already skirted fully or not fully. We will see that in the nearest weeks.

So they're ready for a surge. The Ukraine is bracing for a tough winter and a surge in the spring. We know that, and we also got some insight because Trey Yanks was able to pull off a huge interview and sit down with the President of Ukraine in the Ukraine, in the Capitol. Trey Yinks, congratulations, Fox News foreign correspondent. Great interview, Trey.

Thank you, Brian. Notice you walked it, no lights. What are conditions like in their main office building?

So that was the second time I had been in this building since the war began, and it's a heavily fortified complex. near to the center of the Ukrainian capital, Kyiv. And you go through multiple military checkpoints with armed soldiers before you actually make it into the compound. And when you walk through the doors of this building, it's quite an old structure, but there are sandbags. all along the hallways and weapons lined up for these soldiers to use if There is an attack on the building.

And so it looked very similar to how it looked when I was there just days after the war began. And when we met with Ukrainian President Zelensky, he was quite relaxed. He had a variety of meetings Scheduled for the day, but there's a real understanding that even though the capital of Kyiv is not taking direct ground fire anymore. this could be a battlefield in the coming weeks or months if the Russians do decide to attack again from the north.

So Yeah, I mean, there's a lot to unpack there. First off, You talk to a guy that, you know, this guy was a comedian, fun-loving guy, great personality, big smile. He has all been game-faced over the last year. You also asked him about meeting with Vladimir Putin. And he said, yeah, I wanted to meet with him before, but not now.

Why?

Well absolutely. I pressed him on this. idea of peace talks because it's something that's just not taking place right now. a simple conversation between the leader of Russia and the leader of Ukraine. And he said Look, this is a guy who wants to kill me.

Why should I talk to him? And I continued to question him on Conditions that would have to exist here in Ukraine before he would have those. conversations and discussions. And he basically said the bottom line is that all Russian troops must leave Ukraine before he is willing to start peace talks. And I said to him, this appears to be a salemate.

You are unwilling to speak with the Russians until Russian forces leave your country. And Vladimir Putin is continuing with his invasion, even escalating it this week.

So how does all of this end? What is the end? And he didn't really have a set answer of how it looks from his perspective, but he answered that. The world should put more pressure on Russia. They should isolate the Kremlin.

They should isolate officials in Moscow and ensure that they are so. pushed to the side and unable to operate in the international community, That Behavior has changed and ultimately the conflict ends. It's yet to be seen if that strategy will work. Yeah, he says, let them withdraw it and then we'll start talking. You also want, he always goes out of his way to make clear this is not just about the Ukraine.

I 100% agree. Here's what he said: Cut 36. If Ukraine, if Ukrainian wall, and I believe that's a global wall of democracy, this is what Ukraine is. Unfortunately, we are this leaving wall. That's what I would like to underline.

If we will fall, this will be the start of the Third World War or the recognition of the fact that NATO member nations are standing by themselves on their own. I think a lot of these nations understand it. Moldova will fall, Georgia will be fully absorbed, start pressuring the Baltic nations, infiltrating into their elections, and they're going to try to reconstitute some semblance of the Soviet Union. I think people in that area get that. But you're actually in the area, Trey.

What do you think?

Well, absolutely. And I think it's something that Certain lawmakers get wrong in Washington when they talk about ending aid to Ukraine. Vladimir Putin has been very clear. He would like. The Soviet Union To exist.

as it used to. He has called the collapse of the Soviet Union the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century. He has been very open about his aspirations to take land across Europe. And so Zelensky pointed to that in our interview yesterday in Kyiv. And used words that other leaders have started to use: World War III, the idea that.

the entire globe could be at war if Vladimir Putin expands his aspirations as he has said that he would do. And so The president has a point here. And it's an objective point. And I think that a lot of times when we talk about aid to Ukraine, it gets wrapped up in politics. We've seen with our own eyes and captured images on our cameras.

We have the evidence. to show what Russian forces are doing in this part of the world. They are slaughtering civilians. They are targeting residential areas. They are killing doctors, journalists.

teachers. Non-combatants. And there is no indication. that they would stop with Ukraine. even if they were successful.

And so that's the point. Point. That President Zelensky was trying to make is that Vladimir Putin has much larger aspirations. and the entire world should care. about that because If the Russians attack a NATO country like Poland, for example, it would drag in the United States.

and other NATO countries to a larger conflict. Right, and they have to be saying to themselves: we can't handle Ukraine, not in NATO. If we hit a NATO nation, we'd be crushed beyond crushed. But of Kren, if you don't care about your people, you can just absorb a lot of losses. They have 156 million to die.

Ukrainians are beginning to think that, or they're reporting now, that Vladimir Putin told the military, I want the whole Donbass by March. How real is that? It is not surprising that was one of the initial goals of Russian President Putin. I don't think Tactically, it's going to be possible. The losses are extremely high on both sides.

Especially the Russians. When you look at the past few weeks They have been sending. Mercenaries, Wagner group fighters. to the front lines in Bakhmut and Soledad, right along the eastern line of contact. And These waves have been described as waves of zombies.

By the Ukrainian soldiers there because they say they just run at the Ukrainian machine gun positions, get mowed down until. These Ukrainian soldiers are out of ammunition and then hope to take just a few hundred meters. in a day or even sometimes a week.

So the aspirations that Vladimir Putin has, specifically in the Donbas, this eastern region of Ukraine, are not surprising. But they are going to be hard pressed to take this territory from the Ukrainians in its entirety. They already control a portion of the Donbas region in Luhans and Donetsk, these contested areas of eastern Ukraine. But in order to take the entire Donbas region, they would have to defeat the entire Ukrainian army along that line of contact, and it just doesn't seem realistic given the current conditions. I know you don't give military recommendations, but do you believe that we're at the point now, if you're going to give tanks, why not planes?

If you're going to give HighMars, why not attack'ems? You're right. It's not my call to make, but Ukrainian President Zelensky. was very much of the mindset when we spoke with him yesterday that Ukraine needs these advanced weapons to win. And it's something that Ukrainian officials have talked about pretty extensively over the past several months and even since the war began.

They have been very critical of the Biden administration and Ukraine's NATO allies across Europe. about the way aid gets delivered. It often Trickles into Ukraine in a very familiar way. And we've seen this with air defense systems, we have seen this. With The Mid-range missiles that have been provided to Ukraine and even the artillery units.

That Until the Americans say yes and they sign off, European partners are hesitant to deliver that aid. NATO is trying to work hands in glove in this conflict and ensure that no country gets ahead of another country when it comes to supporting Ukraine militarily.

So that's really the question moving forward is Will the tide shift to the point where Ukraine's NATO allies provide things like fighter jets? The F-16 was a topic of conversation. Yesterday. And that's still up in the air because in the past, the Biden administration had said no to tanks. And now there are M1 Abrams tanks headed to Ukraine in the coming weeks.

And so these things can change as the war develops. And there are calculations being made behind the scenes. by NATO and key officials across the world. about what type of support Ukraine needs to maintain. And as Zelensky said, ultimately win the war.

So, Trey, when you were done with the interview before and after, and Aja and your takeaway, I was just wondering if you can give our listeners a sense of Zelensky's mindset and the condition of the country, because you've been in and out of the country since the war began over the last year. Yeah, I've spent more than one hundred and fifty days here since the war began. It has been difficult to really wrap my mind around the level of suffering that's taking place here because it's so widespread. And I asked Zelensky this as a human, not just as a wartime leader, but how this affects him? How does it affect your mental health to be the target of a country like Russia.

In the early days of this invasion, we were here in the capital of Kyiv. As paratroopers, came into the outside of the city and tried to work their way through. Kill squads. to take out Zelensky. And you could hear the gun battles in the streets.

And the ones key. basically said he has to be strong. He has no other choice. And I think that sentiment can be applied to many Ukrainians that we met. Because Initially, I described Ukrainian civilians that we met across the country as resilient, but I think when we describe the Ukrainian people as resilient, that is accurate, but it has to be.

Addressed with a caveat, and that caveat is that. They are resilient because they have to be resilient. They are facing Such tragedy and trauma on an unimaginable scale. And I think that Zelensky embodied that spirit of they will continue the best they can to fight this war and push back the Russians as the invasion escalates. in the days ahead.

but it will be difficult and thousands of innocent people will die in the process. Yeah, and I just think that so many people. Are looking to get out and saying, you know, American people famously get bored of war and they want it just to end, dating all the way back to 1812. Let's just end this.

So it goes over, it's the same cycle over and over again. Iraq, we know about that.

So looking at this right now, the one thing that would lose American support if they were to find corruption, the money we're sending, the weapons we're sending, end up in the wrong hands or resold. He has gone out of his way to crack down on corruption that I didn't know was happening. What is the level of corruption? How concerned was he? And what progress did he make?

get rid of it. It's a great question, and he talked about corruption on camera and these recent raids for the first time in our interview. Ukraine historically has been known as a country that has a lot of corruption, many oligarchs, a lot of money moving around behind the scenes. And it's certainly a concern and a reasonable concern for people to have. Because at the end of the day, it is very difficult to.

track this level of of money. But Zelensky has made clear he wants to address this. And he has taken specific steps in recent days and weeks to do so. He has dismissed a number of top officials. He has ordered rape on.

different areas of Kyiv where Businessmen who maybe had shady ties or ties to the black market were staying. And so he basically summed it up to me as: look, we cannot risk. the support from our partners due to corruption. And I don't know enough about the corruption here to truly understand if his actions now are enough. Because in a country of more than forty million people.

These issues can run very deep.

So I don't ever claim to speak on the issue with authority, but what we have seen over the past several days is Zelensky ordering these anti-corruption raids and dismissing a number of officials. at least send a message to American partners and to European partners that an effort is being made to address the issue of corruption. Trey Yanks, great job. Stay safe, Craig. Continue to do great work.

Thank you, Brian. You got it. Hey, just so I announced this: the U.S. has just announced they're postponing. Tony Blinkens, the Secretary of State's trip over to China in light of the Surveillance balloon that was discovered in Montana.

We'll have more of that when we come back. Brian, Kilmicho. Expanding your knowledge base. It's the Brian Kill Meet Show. The more you listen, the more you'll know.

It's Brian Kilmead. We are exactly one year away from the first Democratic primary of the 2024 presidential campaign. Yeah.

Wow. The excitement in the room is palpable. American politics is relentless. They're like that friend of yours who's like, it's my birthday month. Right.

And I think it must be odd because I kind of like the way they do it in England. When you feel like you're strong, you call for an election. When you feel like you're weak, people demand you call for an election. In between, they keep going. Uh and then they but it's so short.

I like the bad the fact that it's so short, but this is It becomes a mi I guess part of this is money, because you make so much money, you buy so many ads, you raise so much money, and people get paid so much money, they staff up, those kind of people go on payroll. But there is a nu uh some news on twenty twenty five I think is worthy of reporting. And there could be somebody else on the right getting in.

Now, we're waiting on Pompeo, waiting on Tim Scott. We are waiting on Mike Pence. I think it's all a layup and just a done deal. Nikki Haley's going to get in on the 15th. Listen to the mayor of Miami, Francis Suarez, cut 42.

Look, you know, I'm strongly considering running. It's something that I've discussed with my family. My family is on board, but it's a process that you have to... uh you know you have to undertake uh you know it's it's it's a leap of faith and something that you have to um do your due diligence on because it's one of the most difficult gauntlets that a human being can put themselves through But I love this country. I love the city that I was born and raised in.

I'm the first mayor of Miami that was born in Miami, and I was blessed to be elected by 86% and re-elected by close to 80% because I've stuck to three simple rules. I've kept taxes low in my city. Lowering taxes to the lowest rate in our history. I've kept people safe. We just finished the year with the lowest homicide rate per capita since 1964.

And I've leaned into innovation.

So that's how he feels. And I like him a lot. And he is another Republican, doesn't really get along with Governor DeSantis. Rick Scott doesn't really get along with Governor DeSantis.

So you might say, well, how are these Florida Republicans going to run against each other? It's really no problem. You know, who does get along with DeSantis is Rubio. They're tight. I think Marco Rubio gets along with just about everyone.

He even gets along with President Trump. I think he just does his job. Not that Bear Suarez doesn't do his job and Governor DeSantis does his job, but Governor DeSantis just says, this is what I'm doing. You come with me. If not, I'm perfectly okay with that.

And this week, he took on Woke with Governor Chris Sunun, who said, I don't do that as governor. I don't get involved in woke politics. Not my job. Governor DeSantis had a huge problem with the AP exam as it relates to this high school curriculum for African studies. Why do they have African queer nation or whatever they call it?

Why are they using Black Lives Matter? You look at it, but give me the counter. Give me the Shelby Steels. Give conservative thought and give liberal thought. Democratic thought and Republican thought.

Any change the curriculum.

So it looks like another win, but of course the barbs come out and say, you're racist. I have news for you. If you call everyone a racist, no one's a racist. I'm going to go with no one. We just we see our point of view.

Sooner or later, we're going to realize it's so counterproductive to focus on everyone's heritage and skin color.

Sooner or later. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kill Mead. Hi everyone, welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kill Me Show, one of the latest hours, the last hours of the week, 1866-408-7669. We've booked Shannon Bream.

She's going to talk about Fox News Sunday and handle anything we throw at her. And Deroy Murdoch is going to be here from the Wall Street Journal.

So we'll talk to DeRoy. He's going to be in the studio. He also has a perspective on the events that went down over in Memphis.

So I got to say, just a quick announcement. It looks like that Chinese balloon has prompted. Sir Valence Bloom, the Secretary of State. Anthony Blinken to postpone his trip.

So he will not be going there. This is getting to be a bigger deal by the moment while the President of the United States meets with his caucus along with the Vice President today. Big three time.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. I am Muslim. I am an immigrant. And interestingly, from Africa.

Is anyone surprised that I am being targeted? Omar out. Elon Omar's unsavory behavior and beliefs get her ousted from the Foreign Relations Committee, but not all committees. And in dramatic fashion, the democratic response unhinged. Number two.

China has plenty of low Earth orbit satellites that have much greater visibility and much higher clarity and can do a lot better spying than what this thing does.

So that's why I think this is probably some sort of message. No kidding. China offensive. A spy balloon flies over our nuclear plant over at Montana, goes through Canada, over Alaska, and Chinese companies are buying up our private schools. Chinese real estate companies are scooping up our land, some near military facilities, and putting hundreds of millions of dollars into our colleges.

What will it take for this administration to realize we're looking at a slow-motion invasion? Number one. It seemed that the letter was an implicit admission, I'd say almost an express admission, that this was his data. I don't know why they didn't realize it up until now, the the import of what they had done. That is Andy McCarthy.

Hunter Offensive blows up in their own camp as his attorney tried to walk back the laptop admission as links between his dad's papers and policies overlap with Hunter's antics. With me right now is a woman who's never given in to antics temptation. Shannon Bream of Fox News Sunday. Oh, if you only knew, Brian. If you only knew.

You never do anything unsavory. Is that correct? I wish that was true. I do. But I cannot I that's fake news, hashtag fake news.

So I got to ask you, just your your perspective. When you got up on Thursday and you might have looked at the New York Post and thought, Hunter Biden says it's my laptop. What? I mean, I thought it was a big deal when the Washington Post admitted it, and when Twitter revealed there was a big plot by the FBI to make sure they game planned against it. But this attorney who tried to walk it back later in the day, you're an attorney, Shannon, not an effective walk back.

Well, it's just confusing. Like, I need you to prosecute all these people for stealing my car, which may or may not be my car. It's just confusing. I, I. You know, I mean, they had to know with the first statement they put out that people were going to read it that way.

This sounds like an admission that that was his laptop. But uh otherwise what they're arguing is there's been a misuse of his property, which makes it sound like, okay, some of the stuff that was on that laptop, even if we're not talking about the laptop itself, like you can't go and sue a bunch of people for misusing private property if you also say, which it may not be my private property. I'm confused. Right. So I feel bad for the computer store owner who's not at an easy time of it.

You know, he tries to get a hold of Hunter. Dante doesn't pick up. He sees what's on there. He says, I'm disturbed by it. I'm going to do the right thing.

I'm going to give it to the FBI. Gets abrasive behavior. Doesn't hear anything from December through the summer, decides to give it to Rudy Giuliani. And since that, his life has blown up. His business has suffered.

And now he finds out he could be getting sued. Listen to John Paul Mac Isaac yesterday, cut a. I've been dealing with intimidation from all fronts for the last couple of years, so I've kind of gotten used to it. This isn't as bad as being accused of being a traitor and working with Russia to effect an election, but it's pretty close. Yeah, and I think the White House, on some level, in my humble opinion, must have pushed back and said, Are you crazy?

If you're going to get if you're going to sue, this is going to be civilly or anything, you're going to say, Okay, tell us how you got hurt. Let's look at the emails, let's examine them together and let's see how hurt you are by the examination of some of these business dealings that we've seen, let alone the hookers and the crack smoking and everything else that's in there. Is he going to like that phase of this investigation?

Well it makes you w Wonder, okay, so then what is the letter really about? Because if you get into those kinds of legal wranglings, you are going to have discovery, which means everybody's going to be able to, as you said, look at all the stuff and talk about it. Was it legit? Was it not? I mean, there's going to be a process in which you dig into this stuff.

So is the letter something else? Do they Fear or have some hint that maybe some legal action against Hunter is coming. We know he's been under investigation for a couple of years. Just the timing, the whole thing is weird.

So it just makes me think they know something we don't that's potentially coming with regard to Hunter.

So at one point, I say this every day: do you think we're going to have a spy balloon story? And most days they go, no, nothing. And then today I asked. And they go, Yeah, there is a spy balloon story.

So I had a in my over Montana, of course.

So, as usual, I predicted it.

So, we got the spy balloon story, and so serious is it. That um The Pentagon's recommended to the President reportedly that we don't blow it up with an F-22 because they're worried about a debris field. A lot of people question that. Number two, they have canceled the Secretary of State or postponed the Secretary of State's trip over to China. Because it's gone down, we understand, over the over Alaska, the the Aleutian Islands, over the northern part of Canada, and now it it sits there in Montana.

And as we wait to find out what happens, let's just say this is not a good thing, right?

Well, I did talk to someone at the Pentagon last night who said there is danger in shooting this thing down. We don't want it coming down on a kindergarten, say. I mean, it would have a large Debris field, as you said. But yeah, now China this morning is like, hey, it's mainly a civilian thing. It monitors the weather.

It got off track. Like a different continent is not off track. I mean, that is more than most people are going to buy. The Pentagon's not buying it. They don't think, you know, it's what China wants to make it out to be.

And as our Jennifer Griffin has reported, we've apparently known about this for some period of time.

So my question is, like, when did it show up? in Alaska? Where did it come across? You know, what were we thinking this whole time? Because the question is, did China want us to see it?

Is it sort of a message to us? Or Were they really hoping to gain some intel, some information through this thing? I don't know. It's collecting weather data. It's snowing in Montana.

That's what they're going to find out. Yes.

Or is it weather data or is it surveillance data? And people have pointed out that they could get the same thing from satellites because it gets within 300 miles of the Earth. And we're all looking out to do all this stuff, I'm sure, to a degree we're doing it from them. The other big story is Elon Omar, by a vote, unanimous vote on the Republican side, she is now out on the Foreign Relations Committee, and the squad really took a measured tone, cut 30. This is about targeting women of color in the in the United States of America.

Don't tell me because I didn't get a single my life was threatened. Thank you. Let me see if Ilhan Omar is right where she belongs. The gentlewoman's time is expired. Foreign Affairs Committee.

Yeah.

Her clarity, conviction. The gentlewoman's time has expired and she is no longer recognized. The GOP is now doing what it is best. At Weaponize. Hate against a black, beautiful Muslim woman.

The judge woman's time has expired. The gentlewoman's time. That our country is failing you today through this chamber. You belong to the family.

So I think they took that well, and I think that tone's gotten really appreciated. Crying and screaming and screaming.

Well She can be on a lot of other committees. Everybody's established that. She's not getting kicked out of Congress. She's not getting kicked off of being on any committee. And listen, the Democratic leadership, Congressman Hakeem Jeffries, now the top Democrat there in the House, is saying she apologized.

You know, they've talked about her evolution in thinking. She says she was unaware that some of the things that she said would be viewed as offensive. They say this is years ago. And listen, another Republican, I can't remember which one, was on the floor yesterday and said, you guys, we warned you years ago when you changed the rules for kicking people off committees that this would come back and get you someday. And now it's your turn.

So the truth is, whichever party is running the House gets to make these decisions. All right, Shannon Bream, we're going to be traveling together. I'm going to be on your plane. No, we're going to be traveling out to Arizona to cover the Super Bowl. It's a Fox Super Bowl this year.

It's going to be your first as host of Fox News Sunday. You're going to be on the field. I think I'm going to be in the vicinity doing Fox and Friends at the same time. And you're going to be probably on Fox and Friends. You just walk over and promote in person.

It'll be fun. We hope the weather will be palatable. And I'm just going to offer something. Did you watch wrestling as a kid? Uh, my dad loved it.

Okay. Do you do you remember the tag teams? I could tag them here. Is that going to be you and me? Right.

So, what happens is when you go in there and you start losing, you could tag another guy. Oh, I know. And the other person comes in until they start losing, and then they tag you back. It's a brilliant way that Vince McMahon found a way to sell wrestling.

Okay, but are we going to get like matching costumes and stuff?

Well, listen, if hear me out. Hear me out.

So if you're on, this is what I'd like to offer. If you have a panel and it's going and you say to yourself, this person's weak. This guy is weak. Every time I throw to him, it's so generic. I'm going to say you could tag me in.

And I will sit in the background, and you just say, Brian, go and explain to your panel. If you don't deliver, Kill Meat's coming off the bench. And you'll recognize some people who are on the panel. They might be intimidated by this. I just want to tell you that you'll recognize these people.

Could it be the same? But that's what wrestling's about. But don't you want to prove an outfit? Don't you want to?

Well, I don't. I guess we can. Um, one Mr. Bill Hemmer, who we know and love. And Clay Travis is going to be with us too.

So you think I'm afraid of them? Um Um mentally, no. Physically, maybe. Mentally, no. I think intellectually you feel ready to match with with these guys.

I don't know, though. I haven't seen your wrestling moves or costume. I don't even know the name of your character, persona, whatever it is. It'll be me, and I'm just I'm just gonna wear a unitard.

Okay, um what color? Is it gonna be like one of those ones, like college wrestling, college high school, whatever wrestling, like the onesies? No, it's going to be something a little bit different. I'm going to be dressing like, I believe, more dusty roads. Uh Ivan Koloff.

Woo! I love it. I can't wait. And I'm sure. You're going to be dazzled, though.

If your costume doesn't have some bedazzling on it, I always have my bedazzle gun with me so I can jojup whatever you're wearing. I've always seen the commercial. I wonder if it was that easy to work.

So, lastly, are you going to be interviewing the president? Uh At this moment, no. But things could change. Things could change at any moment. If it does happen, you have one person endorsing you.

Shannon's perfect for this. I gotta tell you, she is as smart as a whip. I and she's, you know, she's that sort of iron fist in a silk glove.

So that is one interview I will not miss. Jonathan and Charlie, one hour ago on this very show. I paid him off. He was on our show last week, flipped him. You know, a hundred, and you know, you get what you pay for.

All right. Uh, Shannon, either way, I look forward to seeing you in person. I wonder if you're as nice as you seem on television and radio. Most people say no, but you can find out. And I'll report live back to my audience.

All right. Have a great weekend. I'll see you Saturday night and then on Sunday. Absolutely. Fox News Sunday.

And by the way, Saturday night, thank you, Shannon. On One Nation, amongst our great guests will be Mike Pompeo. Bill Melusian is going to come to us from the border after these. Committee hearings, and one half of one party saying there really is no problem at the border, it's just a matter of Republicans grandstanding. I just said, Bill Melusian, you're there every day.

You got to weigh in. Then we're going to go out. Michael Loftus put together his own SNL troop. Remember when SNL was funny? Michael Loftus put together this great skit show.

We're going to go out and bring you inside and backstage and actually have you laugh. And we're also going to talk to Micro.

So it's going to be a great show. And remember, this is Black History Month. The 1619 Project is now on Hulu. It is an anti-American effort put together by Nicole Hannah-Jones. We have.

A very important pushback on 1619 with the author of 1620. All right, all coming up on One Nation, 8 o'clock Eastern Time on Saturday night. Don't miss a minute. Back in a moment. Educating, entertaining, enlightening.

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So we have a lot going on. This Chinese balloon is a bigger deal than anyone even thought. We're talking about what's happening with the Hunter Revelations. Oh, the laptop's real. If you didn't think Twitter was revealing enough about them game planning against it, now we got them admitting it.

And then we have, of course, 2024 Kevin, listening in Dayton, Ohio. Hey, Kevin. Yeah.

How you doing, Ryan? Good, what's in your mind? I'm concerned about NATO, because I keep seeing these reports every day about Greece and Turkey on the verge of a shooting war over their coast guards. What happens if NATO falls apart? I don't think it's close to falling apart.

In fact, it's bulking up. Sweden and Finland are supposed to join, and guess who's stopping it? Turkey. But Erdogan's got an election coming up. I don't think it's going to work for him to hold off for too much longer.

He's trying just to extort F-16s from us or something to that nature. I think, for the most part, you look at Poland doing a ton, Germany not doing enough, and the U.S. doing a lot, more than anybody else, but doing it too slow. And the UK not doing enough, but they are on basically they're on their butts economically.

So France doesn't have much militarily, but I do think NATO is pretty strong. They will not let Russia win this. There's no question they won't let Russia win this. Ben, listening in Michigan. Hey, Ben.

Yeah, Brian, listen, this Chinese balloon spy balloon is flying over here. Can you imagine the same thing was flying over China? I mean, they would blow that thing out of the sky and not even think twice about it. I'd say drop that sucker now, and they're talking about, they're worrying about debris. Come on, it's flying over Montana, for goodness sake.

What's that in Montana except maybe about a few thousand people and some cattle? I mean, just blow the thing out of the sky. Send China a message. You can't do this to us. I know.

I mean, think about this. You have also them going into. I did not even know this till this week. They're buying up boarding schools and private schools and changing the curriculum while putting hundreds of millions into colleges. When are we going to wake up?

Exactly. I'm sick of this. You know, stop cowpowing and let them know. Give them a message. Trump gave them a message.

We need to send that message right back to him. I hear you. Thanks so much for the call. I appreciate it.

So, in terms of what I was talking about, here's an example. Michael Waltz was talking about this last night with Laura. Laura, cut twelve. Chinese-backed private equity are buying up boarding schools, private schools, and secondary education all over Florida, New York, California, from what we can tell, and many of them have junior ROTC programs.

So, this is a double win for the Chinese Communist Party. One, they're now putting Confucius Institutes basically into our elementary schools and high schools, and having propaganda platforms to the next generation of America, including. our military leaders going through the ROTC program, and they get to send their elites there at probably a reduced cost.

So this is a double win for them, Melora. This is part of the broader assault of the Chinese Communist Party buying up America. Yeah, they are. And we know about the hundreds of millions of dollars they're putting into colleges. Why?

To get their people in or to make them or saddle them when things come up negative about China not to report it, not to teach it, not to go over it. Or number two, if you think about this, you also have this big climate push, which has become like a religion. You have a bunch of these zealots coming out of high school who subscribe to the 1619 project and subscribe for their life mission to rid ourselves of the combustion engine, oil and gas. At the same time, you have people like George Soros making sure these major cities don't have any law enforcement. You're emptying the prisons, putting these weak DAs out there that refuse to enforce crimes.

This is we're being destroyed from the inside out. And I think it's just a matter of sobering up and taking action, and things will fall back into place. But first, the first move: being aware. Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show.

How are they going to keep crime down in the black community? And At the same time, not Be tough and rough.

Well, they do it the same way they do it on the white side of Memphis. And they keep the crime down without being rough and tough. How do you have the same department? then keep crying down on one side of town. Without beating folk to death.

But you can't do it on the other side of town. Unless you feel that you can get away with it there. I can't speak for everybody in Memphis. I can't speak for everybody gathering. But for me, I believe if that man had been white, you wouldn't have beat him like that that night.

Five black guys being it would seem to be an innocent black guy to death. We've seen it on video. We don't know what precipitated it yet. I'm sure we'll get that. But.

Tyree seemed to be a guy that spent his time skateboarding, photography, working full-time at FedEx, had absolutely no record. He did not deserve that fate, nor does anybody. But I thought we were devoid of race in this issue because everybody there was of the same race. But obviously, as you just heard, that's not the case. With me right now is Deroy Murdoch.

DeRoy, great to see you. Always great to have you in the studio. You wrote about this. What is your takeaway? I did, Brian.

Thanks. It's always good to be with you. I have a piece on American Spectators website, spectator.org, and my headline is. Tyree Nichols, fatally beaten by invisible white people. And that's what the left has been able to cook up out of the situation.

Tyree Nichols, a black man, as you say, wrote a skateboard photographer. He was on his way home to his mom and stepfather's house after going and photographing the sunset in a park. What a beautiful thing he was doing. He wasn't involved in gangbanging or drugs or whatever. And he's got a website with his photography.

You can take a look. It's really, really beautiful photos. It's very sad, terrible, awful to see the atrocity this man suffered. But the perpetrators were five black cops. There are no white people involved.

And yet this has been turned into an example of white supremacy and white nationalism and all that. And the left will not. There's nothing that they can do without bringing race into it and creating a racial situation where none exists. And what's very odd about this, this concept that these black cops. We're somehow possessed by white supremacy.

What they've done is completely withdrawn and just eviscerated any idea that these black cops have any moral agency. If they are, in fact, victims of white supremacy, so much so that somehow white supremacy causes them to attack and beat and kill this black man, then essentially what these folks are saying, Al Sharpton and the rest of them, that they're puppets and that these are like marionettes and the white folks are pulling their strings and they're incapable of controlling themselves, incapable of making any moral decisions. And that if you're black, you're basically controlled by white people. And that to me is a condescending and, in fact, deeply racist and anti-black views. You write for the National Review.

This one is in. I write for National Review as well as American Spectators.

Okay, good. Here's Whoopi Goldberg weighing in. Cut 39. Do we need to see white people also get beaten before anybody will do anything? I'm not suggesting that, so don't write us and tell me what a racist I am.

I'm just asking: is that. Is that what people have to see in order to wake up and realize this affects us all? Astonishing. Yeah, I mean, what are you talking about? Nobody thinks that is good.

Nobody thinks that unit. Acted correctly. We heard the audio. These guys were incensed. They tried to rip him out of the car.

One of the things he said is, You're doing a lot right now. Little did he know that he gets 70 commands in 13 minutes. Most a lot of them were contradictory.

So he got up, he ran for his life, got caught up, and they took his life. I would hope at one point we could just be together on saying how unacceptable that is. Yeah, I mean, look, we ought to be unified on pointing out what an awful, horrible, and disgusting situation this was, that these are total monsters. Tennessee happens to have the death penalty. I hope they're all convicted of murder and executed.

Justice here would be for those five cops to be shot or given the injection or gas or whatever they do in Tennessee. They absolutely deserve that. We all should agree on this. Number one, number two, we ought to talk about what can we learn from this in terms of police training, in terms of discipline, in terms of punishing bad cops, rewarding good cops. And I think in a very constructive A discussion about that.

When we blame Whitey and we say, oh, this is all a white thing, what we do is go back to what we always do in this country, which have a big, long, ugly, drawn-out screaming match over race rather than anything constructive like how do we make good cops better and get bad cops off their forces. And you know what's going to happen. There's going to be a big pullback in those African-American areas and the pro uh the pro um The preemptive policing, getting in there on your feet, getting to meet the town, getting to know the people that no one's going to say, I'm not going to do it. And then these people that are lined up to do the academy, we're ready to go and go, I'm not going to try it. And then we're about 4,000 cops down in New York, about 400 down in New Orleans.

They have to hire outside cops to come in for Mardi Gras and hire private security. It's crazy everywhere across the country.

So we have to find a way to get on top of this. I just see it all going down the same way. And DeRoy, logic tells you with all the interaction between officers and civilians, something's going to happen in three more weeks, and the result's going to be less proactive policing. No one wins on this. I think you're right about that.

And I saw this awful monstrosity thing happen, and I thought, well, great. This is going to fire up the defund the police people. This is going to fire up all the folks who say the cops need to stay at their desks and not be out on the streets. And guess what happens when this takes place? Black people suffer.

We have seen, since the George Floyd riots and Black Lives Matter and all the defunding and so on, we've seen a huge explosion in murder. And most of those people are being killed, or many of them, a disproportionate number of them being killed, are blacks and Hispanics. This is not good for black people when the cops withdraw and innocent. Law-abiding black people get killed often by black murderers. You see it on subways.

You see it, folks walking down the street in New Orleans. You mentioned they're having to import cops. New Orleans is now the murder capital of America, that wonderful city which I visited every year for Jazz Fest. And now people are terrified to walk down the streets in New Orleans. Most of those people are black, and they're suffering because of these ideas, these terrible policies that are putting crosshairs on black Americans across the country.

Got a terrible mayor, too, in New Orleans. Terrible, awful. All right, so. I know you're going to be writing about most likely writing about reparations in California and the infeasibility of it. And I think the backwards-looking way in which we're approaching our past.

We used to talk about melting pot all the time in school. Everybody used to take great pride. Oh, you're Hispanic, you're Asian, or whatever we were calling saying Chinese and Japanese back then, whatever it was.

So we would just say and how everyone came together and we became better for it, and we used to salute Little Italy and all these different enclaves, but now that seems to be different. There seems to be some type of force that's determined to point out differences between us. And I'm fascinated to get your take on what's happening in Florida. The governor came out and said: listen, what's going on with the African Studies AP exam in these high schools? What's going on with the curriculum?

I have no problem with African American studies, but what's with it? And he said, What's the problem? He goes, Why are you doing queer studies? Why are you doing the history of Black Lives Matter? The queer experience.

Why are you talking about equity? That someone should be in a curriculum. Where's the conservative thought? Was the Shelby Steele, the DeRoy Murdoch? Do we have any type of counterbalance?

And they changed it. And now people are calling Ron DeSantis a raging racist.

Sounds familiar, right?

Well, look, he could visit the grave of Martin Luther King and lay roses there, and they'd still call him a racist, no matter what he does, is a racist, according to these people. Look, I'm all for teaching the good, the bad, and the ugly of American history. We ought to talk about slavery. We should talk about Jim Crow. We should talk about the civil rights movement, but we ought also to be talking about black success and how, despite all of this, how about that?

Despite the difficulties, injustices, and pain, somehow, at the moment, we've had a black president for eight years in the White House, elected and re-elected comfortably. We right now have a black vice president. The House Democrats are led by Hakeem Jeffries, Lassi Check. He's black. The Pentagon, pretty big government agency, is run by a black man.

So there is tremendous black success and has been for decades, really for centuries, in many respects. And people on the left, the Black Lives Matter people, just want to talk about slavery, Jim Crow, and according to their world, life never got beyond 1954 in Alabama. Right. And I think this guy named Tim Scott is going to be announcing probably in a month or two that he's running for. for President of the United States.

Why?

Because he's putting such an effective center. That's it. I want to bring you to the media's reaction to what the governor decided to do.

Now, listen, Governor Sununa came out and said on this show, I don't think you should be worried about woke if you're a governor. That's different opinions among the same party.

So listen to the media's reaction. Unfortunately, Governor Sanders has been very, very clear. He has what just appears to be a white nationalist agenda. It's never been about this course. The governor was very clear.

African-American study doesn't have educational value. He's basically sacrificing the education of a whole generation of people for his ambition. It's a right-wing fantasy land, like Disney World, but in hell. Go to Florida, the meanest place on earth. Disney World in hell.

That's hilarious. Look, if Ron DeSantis hated black people, he would not have run on and then delivered on the promise of school choice. The reason Ron DeSantis won the first time was he went after black women who call themselves school choice moms. Didn't go after him. We were to have to win them over.

Win them over. Yeah, went after them in terms of asking for their votes. And in fact, he won, I think the number was something like 18 or 19 percent, I think it was, of the black female vote, which was way, way higher than the black male vote. And these were black moms who wanted their kids to get educated. And he delivered on that promise, and Florida now has a very, very robust and effective school choice program, most of whose beneficiaries are not white folks, but minorities.

And you've got a lot of black moms and black dads who are having the opportunity to send their kids to schools where they actually might learn something, and they appreciate that. If Ron DeSantis were a big racist, he would let the kids stay in their ineffective, failing government schools, not learn anything, and not be able to get ahead. You know, if you're David Duke or you're somebody like George Wallace, you don't want Black people studying and succeeding and moving up the ladder. You want to keep them dumb and remote and isolated so they can stay down there and be controlled. Ron DeSantis is doing the exact opposite, which is not racist behavior.

This is very positive, supportive behavior of black people.

So, Dory Murdock here, he is talking about his column about the horrible circumstances in Memphis. And we're just just going to continue to talk about race for a second. As you look at what's happening right now in this country, I went up to some politicians right before Election Day and I just said, you know. Why don't you guys focus more on black areas? Because Republicans just don't go.

And they told me. I've tried. We go in, great conversations, go to the churches, go to the families, people couldn't be nicer, and they vote the same way. They are thoroughly frustrated. There's a sense in the black community in certain areas, not for all, obviously.

that if I vote Republican, I've sold out. Do you do have you heard that? And number one, if you are a Republican, how do you change that?

Well, you know, we've heard that, oh, you're a sell-out, you're Uncle Tom, et cetera. I mean, people like us, black conservatives, hear that, and have heard that for years and years. I think it is very helpful for GOP candidates, conservative candidates, to go into the black neighborhoods, knock on doors, present yourself. You're not going to get 100% of the black vote. You're not going to get 50%.

But if you get 15 or 20% of the black vote, there's a very good chance you win the election because you draw such a huge chunk out of the Democrat base that the Democrats just can't recover. When Donald J. Trump ran in 2020, he won 19 percent of the black male vote, enormous number. I think he won 8 or 9 percent of the black female vote.

Now, obviously, he came up short ultimately, but he's made great strides in that area. He also did things like opportunity zones, like increasing funding for historically black colleges and universities.

So there's a very positive story that GOP and conservative candidates can make. And really, the best argument on it is school choice and talk about, you know, just go into black neighborhoods and say, are your kids learning? Are they in Safe schools? Are you happy with what's going on at your local elementary or junior high or high school? And if you're not, vote for me, and I'll give you school choice options, which is something Democrats hate because the teachers' unions hate them, and the Democrats will do whatever the teachers' unions want.

And that, I think, is the key for increasing the black vote for Republicans. This is off the top of my head, I'm remembering, but earlier this week. the charter schools. which benefit primarily black and Hispanic kids. There's uh twelve ready to go.

The governor will not approve them. They only get a third into the charter schools that apply. It breaks everybody's heart when they don't get in. They feel like they let down their kids, so they're going to open up twelve more. And it doesn't mean it's going to get green lighted.

But yet it benefits the people that You would think Democrats call their base. How do you get your head around it is all about. The teachers' unions. Yeah, that's a good idea. And these politicians need the teachers' unions.

They fund it, and therefore they own them. Look, Democrats couldn't care less about little black boys and little black girls. What they care about is keeping the money coming from Randy Weingarten and the teachers' unions. That's what they want. Those are their campaign funds, as well as their campaign volunteers.

And if that means that the minds of little black boys and little black girls have to be crushed in the balance, that's a-okay with the Democrat Party. That's the kind of message the GOP should talk about and ask black moms and dads: are you happy with what the education or non-education your kids are getting? And if you're not, stop voting for the Democrats who are interested in basically paying off politicians to make sure school choice doesn't happen and keep kids in schools where they don't learn anything. They're often unsafe. They get beaten up.

They get robbed, what have you.

Sometimes they get killed and terrorized by gangs. And the Republicans are interested in giving parents the option to go to those schools if they like them or get vouchers, et cetera, and take their kids elsewhere. The Democrats hate this because they want to keep the teachers' union money coming. Little black boys and little black girls be damned. Big story in the New York Post today: there were 350 felonies in city schools this past year.

Including 90 over the last three months. You're talking about assault, you're talking about murder, you're talking about grand theft auto. I mean, these are felonies. How do you expect kids to go to school or people to teach in those schools? If you told me I'm a teacher, I'm going to get paid less to go into the city and put my.

Sanity at stake in my safety? I'm going to go out to the suburbs. Sure, absolutely.

Well, basically, what you're saying, Brian, is that our government schools are turning into crime scenes. And you're right. A lot of teachers will say, look, I don't want to do that. I'm either going to get out of the teacher's profession or go find a nice job in Westchester or Long Island or something like that. But think of the little kids who don't have that option.

They don't have the opportunity to get up to Scarsdale or go out to East Hampton. And so they're in Brooklyn or they're in the Bronx or in Harlem or something like that. And those are the only schools they can go to. And their parents don't have the means to say, all right, we're going to send you the Catholic school or the charter school or success academy or what have you. We should do the basically let the money follow the students, not the system, and put, like they're doing in Arizona, give every kid, basically take the budget for education, divide it by the number of students.

Every student gets that amount of money. And if you want to go to a local school, great. If you want to go to a charter school or you want to go to a private school, Catholic school, whatever, you do that, and that's how you get educated. And that's how you succeed in America. And if you want to study history, Mm-hmm.

Success is directly related to education. Absolutely right. And you're not going to, almost never going to have it if you don't have that fundamental and if you don't thirst for it and be able to get it. If you want to equal the playing field, let everyone have an equal shot in the classroom. That's the way to do it.

Deroy Murdoch, thanks so much. If people want to read your stuff anytime, anywhere, where do they go? Spectator.org, foxnews.com. Google my name, and you'll see op-eds popping up all the time. Back in a moment to wrap up the hour.

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