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FLASHBACK: Opening day at the Michael Murphy Navy SEAL Museum

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September 5, 2022 12:00 am

FLASHBACK: Opening day at the Michael Murphy Navy SEAL Museum

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September 5, 2022 12:00 am

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Thanks much for being here about the rain tell me ciao it's Monday to Labor Day and so glad you're here right to radio with you to the beach or if it's overcast died or is working around the garage in the shed. Whatever backyard barbecue. Thanks so much for listening to the show if you listen to the first time Cody brain kill me Brian Kelly order podcasts we can work around your schedule and will begin was to us all to the falls of the salivary military oriented. I went to the to the Michael Murphy Navy seal Museum had a chance to talk some great people, including Michael Sauers, Michael Sauers actually started the Merv challenge is one of our finest Navy SEALs ever. He's chronicled in lone survivor you can hear lability for Marcus and Joan Taylor kitsch as well as Chris Wiley. Chris was Executive Director the Murph Museum. So now let's listen to my interview with Michael Sauers great survey hair to give the skies with first Kelly right is you really come from California last night. Yeah, and that's no easy feat right now like anybody try to travel light and I had a flight canceled in and booked on another fly and then I think we stopped in like Kansas City and then I called I don't get off the plane ready to send this plane all the way to New York so yeah little bit of her income are all but happy to be here.

What a beautiful day it is today New York is the furry Navy seal that's trained to be resourceful, even sometimes, you're out of options when it comes to commercial flights and it's just great and and once we got to the hotel is so funny because I texted Marcus because he was supposed to be there in my Marcus like I'm not even to hear that and that what those guys got to the airport. It took like three hours to get to the hotel's well little reunion. Once he got me in the in the Seo community. What is this mean today I it is amazing just to see this come to fruition.

When Dan first brought it up to me at Damer and Murphy brought up to me couple years ago about his inspiration and his vision of what he was going to put here in Long Island.

I want say I thought he was a little crazy but I was like it was such a big fee is only one other in the country, exactly, you know, and when Dan goes for something a and he goes large. So when he showed a similar blueprint and the layout in a virtual mockup IV. It was amazing and but of course it would be help support the Michael P.

Murphy Memorial scholarship foundation through the Merv challenge which we run and he was like well Mike we we need to sell little more T-shirts this year because we need to get some more money for this museum but we were totally on board.

I mean for us. You know, this is just the culmination of fruit for me getting out of the teams and then creating a company and being out to get back and support our brothers and support to community being out to be a small part of growing this museum and raising funds that put this at me or anyone who comes to New York City to go see the 9/11 memorial in ghost you see the Statue of Liberty. I think you need to put this on your list as well. I miss only about an hour outside the city, but you need to come out here and see it as a great little town to get a chance to see you because you got here last night.

First off your company forward to tell me about it, but Ford site started forged actually in 2007 I was deployed to Romani Iraq on Marcus L.

Morgan Luttrell, his brother was in my platoon and that I didn't plan on starting a clothing company. I had 13 years in the Navy already and I honestly I was going to stay and retire at our last appointment in Romani we got in pretty catastrophic incident out some of the guys in our platoon were or injured very badly and when we got back stateside couple of inches got together were likely in a let's make a T-shirt. I attribute T-shirt for one of our fallen guys such site. One of our injured guys in Wheaton wanted to raise some money so he can get some specific medical care, so we just started selling shirts around the team and it just started picking up steam at picking up steam in a couple of guys think is around Christmas time really need to make more shirts you need make more shirt so we're literally just laying him out of the trunk of our car and then to started growing and growing and growing and it really got to the point where I had to make a decision. I either had the chase.

This Ford stage for your dream or I had to let it go and at that point I said you not give it two years get out of the military. I'll try it out if I can't make it work outcome crying back knocking on the door. Let me back in the teams and fortunately enough it did work out and just you went with with every shirt that we sell. We donate a portion of the proceeds back to military nonprofit organizations.

So just being how you doing doing well yeah yeah you were doing well.

I mean we deal with in the same thing everybody still how a supply chain issues and an inflationary everything. It is tough, just simple little things like just getting shirts and enough size runs inside scholars and hats and the things that used to just come naturally used to just call your supplier, vendor, building yeah is is is been tough but no complaints to me.

I know you you guys will you'll find a way so we have a few more minutes with with Michael Sauers.

Now let's talk about the Merv challenge is basically like crosstraining. Murph was incredible athlete.

An unbelievable shape. How does the Merv challenge help keep his memory alive and go places like this. The amazing part of it and I like to tell people it is on is that hey I did the Murph on Memorial day or or what is the Murph and they get a lot of people out there that just try to run it for the time but the most important thing is you gotta remember the Merv challenge is more than just a workout the Merv challenge is a tradition that helps push us, humbles us and allows us the ability to dedicate a little bit of pain and sweat in honor of Lieut. Michael Murphy and all the brave men and women that really that paid the ultimate sacrifice for our country so would you do is get sponsors for you to do it. Is that how you raise the money.

So if I want to do it.

I get people to sponsor me to do this not actually it's it's very easy. The easiest way to do is just go to the Merv and its registration is still open. We run it until the end of July so you can go to the Merv you can register on their and you sign up. And so when I pay the fee.

That's my donation yet you call okay that your donation if you do have a gym or organization. You can also sign up as an official host. So if you sign up as an official host, you get a banner in a flat cottage organization is listed on the Merv challenge website and that way if you want to host events. If you want to do it on Memorial day Fourth of July operation Redwing Memorial like today, which was the name of the operation of the unit.

They were written exactly when it went down 1 mile run 1 mile run 100 pull-ups exactly how to bureau know you will dinner only if you if you want. If you really see the great thing about the matter. Now that you know anyone just repost know a lot of people he can do that there there's not a lot, especially if you do it strict with a 20 pound vast nearly possible. Maybe Dave Goggins could pull it off, but not many guys on the planet they could do that 300 squats yet 200 push out a wonderful dinner but I so that's important so would you talk about the. The armored run to is that part of this and I like to use the run with full equipment yet obviously, when you have Navy SEALs and professional athletes doing it. It can be a little intimidating for your average person. So what we like to tell this unit don't worry about doing it with the vast day if it's a first year you do it right.

She is done. Just get it done and if you go to the Merv We have a training workout program on their I don't expect your average person to just sign up and bail that knock it out the next day so we have a specific training program on their people from every fitness level there scaled options on there as well. Michael Sauers is with his former Navy seal whose help with the Murphy Sioux Museum together which opens up shortly. Why did you join for free me really.

I grew up in a small town and in Pennsylvania. I was an athlete in high school and athlete I played I played I wrestled and played football. As I was Allstate my senior year in wrestling. I had Pennsylvania that is America.

I had some scholarships to go to college, wrestled with me II just really wasn't into school anymore was Lawrence Olivier get adventurous life that what one of my brothers buddies actually went to Bud's and he came home for Christmas break. I think I was about 15 years old and he was at her house and he was telling me I'm am in this bunch training. Some things like Navy SEALs like that movie with Charlie Sheen.

He's like yeah exactly like that said, man, what's it like is like a wrestling team. But we run around machine guns and we blow stuff up and know that sounds really cool and I had a couple uncles and my family that were in Vietnam so we had a lot of military background in my family. But after really research it and I mean you're talking like early 90s that until there was no Internet. I think at one VCR tape is like the delete option or something like that.

But I watch and I was sold at skydiving scuba dive blow stuff up you guns and like cells from a small town in Pennsylvania and I like where I got to go to this are likely go to court out of California like sign me up right now I couldn't get there fast enough when you did it. Did you say what was I thinking, because it does seem so tough. If you watch the beginning of lone survivor you get a real clue of what it's like all you ever think yourself on Mica to make this so you first. I like the Allstate wrestler from Pennsylvania's relatives and I like to tell you I was instructor for a long time as well so I worked on the recruiting side the house and I would like to delicate sometimes. Like it's intimidate it doesn't I mean we had professional athletes in our class. You had guys who played in the NFL guys to the O'Maley baseball players of a mate and some of them did it. It's so hard that you have to be so committed.

It's got to be the only reason you like your reason for being there has to be the right reason. If you're just like a raise guys like yeah you know I'll try it out. I want to challenge in my life.

You're not going to last long.

I really take that commitment. It doesn't matter how good of a natural athlete you are you are pushed to your limits and I mean every single day and that's really what makes the seal brotherhood what it is. It is going. You know, through all of those arduous situations and evolutions with the guys next to you and say that you can't really compare that to any other job. Afghanistan and Iraq. Yes, both what you think about how we left Afghanistan, I mean I see it's it's tough for for a lot of guys that I mean even before that I was in the battle over Marty and Marcus Morgan were in there as well.

Even when we first pulled out her Ahmadi and unit we saw, you know that get retaken again and then you as we left Afghanistan. Would you then they will back into the back is exactly that was pretty hard for us is we did lose a lot of guys there. Ahmadi and really when we pull out of Afghanistan. Just the way it went down this not being organized in a we hear the greatest superpower in the world and you fall brilliantly you would drafted to the battlefield you go to learn the skills you got the equipment should be a success story exactly exactly so and I hope people view it that way you can control the leader is you can join control the fight, you go out to do it exactly and I think the real success story.

Was it the actual veterans, and even that this something that everybody out there got everybody together and use that network in and and I think that that's really that showed who America is that showed two Americans were not, you know, if we can't rely on the government to do a guess what were going to get our own people together and working to make the situation happen and working to get our friends out of their the people that fought beside us and helped us out were not going to leave them over there working to go get them ready to be you. So glad you did what you do when you continue to get to get back to the country in this community to be exciting day and you made it though the gods were on your side lying.good for the big stores that was all the cancellation fight to get his new time. Hi Mike Sauers, retired Navy seal CEO of forged host or the Merv challenge go sign up for today and your admission fee becomes the donation of Chris Wiley's next executive director of the Murphy Museum don't move something new every day, Brian kill me show Fox News network London Domino's Fox News contributor daily newsletter. I'm inviting you to join the conversation every week just to bend Dominic's podcast. Listen well by doing a Fox News is just talk to Gov. Christie know so glad you was nice of him to be in studio where in the West, Sayville, New York, on Long Island, WRC and listeners understand that were very close to them, but were on a national story because so alone for the second time in this country we have a Navy seal Museum. It's named after Michael Murphy man that is the executive director of the Michael Murphy Navy seal Museum is with me right now all former Navy seal himself Chris Wiley Chris welcome. Thank you Brian thanks read on television with us today. That was a very, very unique experience love yeah you are natural for you. Somebody here who's been here every step of the way that 5000 ft. cost millions of dollars to put together your feeling when the opening is just moments away. I'm excited at the same time I don't think it's setting it all and we've been working here the whole board and the staff years are working diligently to get the to get to this moment and so right now hopefully later this afternoon. It'll actually sink in, and I'll be able to breathe and enjoy it but I'm just so happy that we got here on one nation. Saturday did clock going to have the tour that you gave me of this museum. But what was your hope. Starting Monday how many people do you expect to come through those doors. Would you hope to get out of it.

I just hope they get a full understanding of the commitment the sacrifice that you know the Naval special warfare community gives every day and you know the education that this building is going to give them and provide them and provide the community know it's it's something that I look forward to experiencing what I can see the young kids come old older people. Everybody come in and see this because every time I've put a few family members were or people through it there either in tears or astonished with the breath of what seals and unities and and the sweat people have performed and done, why is there only to me to surprise you. There's only two Navy seal museums have only told it is only 18,000 history of our country to become Navy SEALs that that is correct.

From 1940 to the present day that's been around rounded off number, about 18,000 people, but I believe that it just there was an education and there wasn't a lot of talk about seals in the past you know it now became people writing books is a lot more media coverage is a lot more interested in the bin Laden raid to yes so so since all this I believe the demand or the interest is been there for the need to have more museums and more education on the seal program. We need more seals. You know it's an elite group. You're not just be able to replenish you know will seal community. If we have another operation Red Wings or extortion, 17 were leveled a great loss of life, and this was built off operation Red Wings loan survival is the movie in the book, but Michael Murphy was on that unit famously stood with a satellite phone that would reveal his location. He had to go to High Point to get a signal out to try to get his guys out and to do that he had to call back to base and when he exposed himself to cost him his life that that's correct.

The gave the ultimate sacrifice trying to save his men and he ease his story is there. There are few other stories here worth medal of honor recipients that are from the different errors of the seals from Vietnam forward and all of their stories are absolutely phenomenal but Michael's just resonates in the community in the hearts of the you know just people in general are just one of those stories that everybody remembers and then the movie was made out of the store made it much easier for the work to get out on his heroic feet. This people wanting get because this is really driven by private donations. That's correct where you go Murphy Navy seal and you could donate their you can call we we will facilitate donations and were also looking for people that if you had a sealer you DT member in your family were also looking for photographs from back in the 1940s and 50s and 60s ricer were still trying to gather photographs of people that we know they don't have it in the archives. Very fascinating.

You know savage debt program that's correct Michael Murphy seek fantastic nice personal powerful is America's weather.

Do you know, your fox weather updates throughout your busy day subscriber list of Mao and Fox news live just on forever you get your projects. Welcome back everyone with a Navy seal Museum openings the Michael Murphy Navy Navy Museum seal Museum is only the second one of this country is 5000 ft. all over my right shoulder of the opening ceremonies cut the ribbon's it'll be official open to the public in West Sayville Long Island now. It's another reason is the place to stop before you get to the Hamptons or Montauk and no one has to tell that to Taylor kitsch actor and who played Lieut. Michael Murphy lone survivor or Marcus will trail who came all the way from another state to a place he didn't know existed. Long Island, the retired Navy seal certain Afghanistan, author of lone survivor multiple bestsellers welcome guys appreciate you being here then thrown a sound and aspirin from cooperation you have to work will I give you one microphone and you and Kayla have to get along for just this moment on the radio okay you saving this writing thing about that talk about the microphone what you have to share. That's what you brought in cumulative microphones so so that's that's where you feel about that. Not great, you got to be hurting quite a bit working at the remedy that soon the introduction says about another state. It's Texas and has a name} that I can't if you know about that I agree I've lost total control. This interview and he's bigger than me and I really haven't had a microphone and I know what you fill of some walk-through of your podcast to her.

I was on it with your brother Morgan. I appreciate that one and only just met. It was great. Was I usually just your all we needed. But your twin brother is is on the precipice of going to Congress. He won the nomination you to feel to Motherwell event.

Yes we did, it's Kevin Brady seems retired so and you both mentored by another great politician Gov. Rick Perry yes or so was also Sec. of energy are with me yesterday gives regarding so I talked to a television show all go it will be more time now. First off teleplay Michael Hadley do great. I actually know if we made this public.

Another when it came time to picking the actors for the for the parts I asked how to say and that except for the one he was a playmate have any say in that getting a chance to talk over my thought was if I pick somebody to play me better be removed to walk like Denzil, I don't like my friends know me, I mean what we consume is as a juvenile being a movie you would know who you want to play you medially benefits real going on, need to really pick somebody, then you put some thought into it. So it came clean. Our talking is a menu you take to place me because if I did that.

I don't think it would joke do it justice. But when it came time to pick and my connection that was on the handle and that and he was that it was a choice right absolutely lock overplaying you what you think you've known away. I don't know woman tell you're probably friends with them was Eli could do it apart like that he hired.

He likes to get to learn what it takes to be that person. Whether it's a fighter or an elder. They took the serious me once once I got in the real other women to get out of it than it was. There was serious business with Markey's great we have a fantastic relationship. I say he's the city version of me and it was only first met about a good chance to meet him.

I went to the regular alone time and if you guys that mean every single day and then when Mark came into the picture. We kind of circled up. The wagons brought a man I want to train again and it truly made for family marks the part of us. Now right when you cut them any slack them and they had to go to the ringers and because that they are in the respect in the place among us, and then finishing the mission. Now the family until he got a movie coming out Friday right yeah show on Amazon and show them so you could be anywhere. I mean, why was important to be here today. I mean I've been lucky to do a lot of jobs play Lotta real life guys with this one. This experience is give me back more than anything I've done and what why career will Marcus sit right here is a brother mind the whole community. Like you said, I think the most flattering thing, especially when you have a responsibility like this you serve that story and these guys it's to have them. Thank you and to have Dan a Marine and John Murphy be there for you and thank you for that is honestly everything that's why you get to you know take swings like this and be a part of this and this. The torch I'm more than happy to carry in an you part of these these guys lives. And I mean the whole community to be taken in by those guises is it's a pretty fascinating family and I mean I think you know on a day like today on so many levels.

It's heavy and then you carry that you feel that there's a lot a lot about here, but were also laughing. Catching up in there is that you like at ease by me within 10 seconds of seeing each other again. It's like were just in it again and that's the beauty of right everything was so cool the market.

You stated that you put yourself, but you stayed in the movie so you're on the said so you train these guys and you felt it was a traumatic going through it again.

I mean I was traumatized. I didn't live through it. I am watching that I know how it ends.

And I'm still affected by how about using it on the screen requested.

That's a great question and was almost intense therapy because I had to break down every piece of it and they would ask me questions that I hadn't thought about why we doing this.

This is what was was he doing with this housing when I'm done about that. And when he says were family. Now that's right because were together on holidays and I'll call him if I have a problem like managing a bully when I got to go. I'm not, that's how you know that you created that bond and we did that on the set, mainly because the roller coaster ride. They had to go over with the emotions in the death week they would would pull them right into that I was on said there's a bunch of seals onset and then it have to do with the family members and the people on the outside because everyone in America and someone do with getting me up that mountain and pull the guys back you just did is I carry myself the way I do. At all times normal running to somebody or something that would bring me back.

Not only that, when it came to them as every time someone types in our name. Your face is going to come up for this is where you are you just doing other stuff.

Now you're a movie that's that's fine right, but always reeling back in my capacity them out there they found Myla calm up keep in check. That's my job. Are you worried about becoming too successful. I'm proud of you worried about you become real real successful exotic norm a little bit talk to my scheduler driving but it worked out so well in a dynamic, because we had them before filming during and after we perpetuated about staying in touch in our families, but everyone was starting something new.

It felt like so cunning that everyone grew together and in that mold and because of it were much better, but it tells it, did you tell Marcus your Canadian or you're afraid of know it is really the spirit of these guys obviously but II want to go back to the family thing and you know I went through a really intense family experience in quite literally his top three that I'll call and I think we all have. Maybe if were lucky enough to have three people in her life that you can lean on that are unquestionably there and there was moment that you'll never forget you call him and he is quite literally just is like get to the ranch scope. You know this is this is just it's not even a question and no matter what he's dealing with you. Now I don't. I didn't know at the time, or whatever. You know it's just open-door and I think that's just you just never forget those moments and that's how that is so cultivated that that relationship and forged you know There isn't a question about it to locate just with the famous actor who played Michael Murphy the movie and then Marcus Luttrell, who they based the movie off his book lone survivor Marcus, one thing is pretty clear that a chance to meet you since the book came out those years ago physically had to re-have a lot you would just disappear for a few months right to work on your back. How are you doing now physically when it's become a routine so it's a stock student start to go down live in that the hospital for a few weeks to months to get my body right for the year and I just accepted it. A lot of people fight some of things happen soon and so you always be fine and I accepted, like what what my routine had to be because of it dialed in. I hold to it. If any part of my day throws me off my routine and pulls me out of it enough to get through that and I push myself back in the running to be to keep going, just like Taylor said that's when you go through life's experiences. It teaches you go to bed you take something from usually a design is to help somebody else. When I call on any given moment about how today I'll call him up whatever he tells me is answer me to know it to what I needed to hear the good Lord works right right and so when when you have people like that in your life.

The deeper the post right afire.

I mean I give him any slack in all my drops but here we go, and then I will never let you go I want to let you go limiting the review has with me so so Taylor you know where you grew up in Canada you live in Montana and you lived in Austin. Will we need to sit so we need people to come by. This Museum this Lieut. Michael Murphy Navy seal Museum.

Can you tell people why it's important to put it on the fit the Cooperstown for seals. They can't they really else.

It really is and it's it's funny as much as I think I knew even about the Seo community and what they go through and being with these guys and and clocking in with them and being a part of that community. Now price is very humbling and it's it's done beautifully as well.

And there's just you know, this is day one and there's already an incredible energy here. I don't realize thousand people. I then Murphy over there through the window. The families foot doing an hour thing is only both answer this. There's a difference now since the since 9/11 Navy SEALs no longer anonymous enough to be a member in the Navy now between Zero Dark Thirty that the takedown of a lot in real life.

The movie that followed your story. People know Navy SEALs I understand in the community.

There's a little bit with this agreement.

If the famous good or not.

How you feel about the everyone knowing about the seizure all my heart. First, do undercover work brought up that way to acquire professional if you boys ran to keep her mouth so we made hard for you to suck it up on current guidance on some operators, you live stuff for us but there there's two there's two parts of that. Obviously the old warriors telling the stories is what brings the new wars of the table so you have to have that's been around since since were certified clandestine operations.

No matter what you think you know about our community don't know nothing. You only know releasing and for the reason why you come visit this museum not tell you is, I've already hit things here in this Museum deleted treasures there little hidden Easter eggs and gyms throughout this Museum. If you know what you're looking.

I will send you on and on a journey to venture to find big the first time till we did that on purpose so we did.

Others don't see was notorious for that and there's so many things in here that are hidden for the general public to find to find other things. I'll give you that little bit and alleviate that, but that's one of the reasons you want to come up.

You're not only just to see this wonderful town and the people in it but boat what are kind of attorney created well this I mean I just literally met the guy put the age back in here and his brother, he lost his brother in Iraq in 05 and it's like it's just this community and these people it's a special spot man and it's it's it really is. And in today's just a day to celebrate and memorialize and and be together. You know right Taylor kitsch is here it Marcus Luttrell here hundred percent true. I understand that but I may think there's attention to it, but I can't tell you. Many people say I join a movie. I joined the military because I saw a movie where I met somebody and I I just read today that the Army is lowering their standards to now you no longer have to have a high school education.

That's how depleted they are recruiting. Are you worried about that, Marcus. That might seem somewhat yummy but overall the military recruiting staff signed the time during the transitional period in our country brought world onto something. If you want to make us a family.

How would you do that I would make everyone in America.

Final commonality is right what they do us only made us sick.

We all got sick together about a week and you get battle hardened Sgt. ration after to you to wars 20 years. That's what you did to us. After that the ending sucked our favorite movie have danced around was kind of sterile and then what happened when you got a sick sick together.

You don't think that's creating the division in our country. That's right. That's how you bring us together.

I mean, it does not automatically and there are peaks and valleys. The laws and when that when the retention goes down, and recruiting goes down. Don't worry. Something will happen to push that back up okay we have a natural way of correcting ourselves will and Americans are great self-correcting contest right mad you can get them happy.

Do not pass them off right we don't like that at all. I understand a lot of things don't do that to us right and the worst thing that can happen is if there was stuff Karen right if everyone stopped really given a day a damn about what goes on. I have been with them will be in trouble but you know else in trouble. The world is the world needs us to be a deeper conversation you're actually right on that is were going through our transitional thing that is doable, you're messing with us you want to come in and poke the bear.

What were going through some stuff right Taylor Marcus, thanks so much.

Great to see so great that you came down to be here and Mark is always great to see ISU, useful scum. Tonight is to come rolling. You did not appreciate ravenous thanks guys appreciated back in a moment.

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