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It's the Brian Kilmead Show. Brett Baer is standing by. He did a great job last night doing the convention coverage. First time Republicans have ever done anything like this. I guess early in the 80s and 70s, I guess Democrats tried it.

Caroline Downey's going to be here too, columnist for the National Review. Always good to get her perspective. And everybody's excited about our YouTube channel, youtube.com/slash at the Brian Kilmead Show. And of course, we're going to be following RNC day two.

So let's get to the big three. Number three. But because of self-improvement, this AI is making themselves smarter. People essentially are aware that the work they are currently doing, if we don't slow down, Could lead to AI takeover by the end of the decade. Speaking of Brad, he talked to Jacob Coxon last night, who just left Anthropic.

AI, not A-OK with many of the creators and the advances. Many calling for a slowdown. Two things have to happen. All the major players have to agree, and China has to be on board. We discuss the stakes.

Number two.

Now, CENTCOM is saying, if you even so much as try to shoot at American warships or commercial shipping, then we are going to destroy three of these tankers. I like it. Rebecca Heinrichs breaks down on America Reports what's going on with the Iran war. Iran looking to escalate because the status quo is slowly bringing their nation to its knees, what it means, and what we can do in response. Number one.

And here is my promise: if the Republicans win the House of Representatives and the United States Senate, I will issue a dividend to every adult citizen in the United States of America for $5,000. Day one of the first ever midterm RNC was a huge success. We review the opening day and preview day two while looking at some of the other key races. And there are a lot of key races. For example, some polls came in on Some polls came in on Mike Rogers.

According to WDIV TV, the local located in Detroit, Rogers got a 45.8 to 44.4% lead over Abdul El Syed. Pretty significant. CNN has El Syed up three. And in Maine, CNN has Troy Jackson leading Collins by three. These are going to be key races decided who controls the Senate.

Brett Baer joins us now. Brett, how would you rate day one? You know, Brian, I I think I was skeptical, skeptical coming in, you know, all the stories about who's not going and are they going to fill it up and all that stuff. And I sat there and it felt really energetic. And I'm not blowing smoke to the organizers or anything, but it felt like a full convention.

It looked good. The speeches... You know, seemed to deliver. They had a lot of, remember in the RNC, the regular convention, they had real people talking about real things, and they had a lot of that. And, you know, the president did his speech.

He was in his element. He was obviously. feeding off the crowd. And um, you know, I I think it while it went long, uh, that was Donald Trump being Donald Trump and the people in that Convention loved it. You know, whether you love him or don't love him, you have to admire that his energy is quite something to watch.

I know. And the one thing that caught you by surprise, and of course, everybody at home by surprise, usually you get right into these things, I thought, was the president saying everyone gets $5,000. Let's listen, cut one. Because we've done so well, and because our country is making.

So much money that only I can make this promise to you. And here is my promise. If the Republicans win the House of Representatives and the United States Senate, Both of them. Because of our economic, tremendous economic success, like in history we've never had anything like what's happening. But because of our tremendous strength and success economically, I will issue a dividend to every adult citizen in the United States of America for $5,000.

I didn't even know that was allowed. Can you do that? I'm not sure. We're going to check the rules on that. I asked the vice president about it afterwards when he was on Sean's show.

Yeah, listen, this is the critics, and I said in the question: the heads are exploding because one, it'll bring perceived as a bribe to people to vote for Republicans. Two, the debt and deficit is booming and this would only increase it exponentially. Three, it's super inflationary if you do that. At least that's what most experts would look at. And anyway, there's many problems and many critics of this move, but the way he delivered it and how it played in that room, and I'm sure how it played across the country was a game changer.

And I think that's what he was looking for.

So what about Texas? The president comes out yesterday and says, basically, I know Ken Paxton's not good looking. He doesn't dress good, but vote for him anyway. He's a good AG. I've never heard that approach before.

I actually think that worked. I thought that worked pretty well. I mean, it was like a thought bubble in his head that he said out loud. And that's, you know, the attractiveness of how he speaks. This is why I think he sees things that other people don't see.

Who else would say that about a guy you're trying to get elected? You know, he doesn't look good. He doesn't dress well. He kind of speaks funny. But He's the best AG in Texas ever and the best AG in the in the country, and then went on to say the cases that he helped the federal government, the administration, win.

So I'll let talk about just your feeling and I know all the people you talk to and connected to. How worried are they about the Ken Paxon Tellerico race? Uh it was a ten. I'd say it's a seven. Their money is starting to flow in.

The President's putting money in. I think Elon Musk is going to dump a lot of money. Mark Halperin said it's going to be between 50 and 200 million in Texas alone. And so I think they feel like they're equaling the money stuff. They're worried that he's not the best candidate.

But I do think after that speech last night and the President's pitch, uh they feel good about like the message is it's really not about Ken Paxton, good guy, but And that's what the President said. But It's about the Senates. And it's about not letting uh Democrats Win that race. Yeah, because he's a true conservative, and there's no doubt about it. He brandished his credentials as an attorney general, but it's his personal life that makes him susceptible.

One would think, and John Cornyn was rock solid, although people in Texas were disappointed with the gun control. But if people looked at what Cornyn signed, the thing that was significant, there was nothing significant to hurt people when it comes to using their guns. It was a background check after the shooting. uh after the shooting by the by the veteran in that church But I digress. James Tallarico sat down with Brooke Taylor.

He wants to correct the record on every wacky thing he said. There's not enough time left in the race to do all of it, but here's some of it. Here he talks about missing the mark, cut eight. During a twenty twenty one hearing, you said there are six biological sexes. Do you still believe that standing here with me right now?

No. I've missed the mark on some of my past statements. I will be the first to admit it. What I meant is that there are two sexes, and then there's a small percentage of people with genetic abnormalities. I obviously didn't say it correctly.

There are not six sexes, there are two. Feel better? I mean, that's a weird way to explain it. I missed the mark. I mean, this is like an archer trying to hit the target, and you hit the car a mile away.

I mean, it's. it wasn't just that, Brian. I mean, it was it was about she w and credit to Brooks. She she peppered him with like some of the past statements and asked about it. I thought she did a nice job on the interview.

At the end, I really kind of wanted to come out of the tape after we played it and said And say, just to be clear, it's this, and it's this, and it's this, and it's this, and it's this, that he has done a 180 on. But You know, I th I think He also expressed himself on a number of different issues that I'm sure played well, selling himself as a moderate. Believe it or not, I've talked to a lot of voters here in Texas and some Republicans who always vote Republican, who say, you know, the Paxton history as far as his personal life, and they sell or talk about Tallerico as a moderate. And that's because I think he's bombarding the airwaves here in Texas every commercial and has the money to do it for weeks on end. That has put that in people's mind.

But I think Brooke effectively went down some of those past statements to show, I mean, it's a 180 on a lot of them.

So here's what he said about voting against the Texas law banning transgender surgeries for minors. Cut 11. In 2023, you voted against SB 14. That was the Texas law banning transgender surgeries for minors and puberty blockers. How come you voted against that?

Because the bill was overly broad. And in fact, if you go back and check, I voted for a major amendment to limit the bill to banning surgeries for minors.

So I've been consistent on this issue. Really?

So there was a bill that was overly broad? I don't know. I think it's tough. When you get into the weeds like that, I think you've lost the argument. But.

He's definitely trying to portray himself as a moderate here, and every question ends with, that's not what Texans really care about. They care about the price of gasoline and the price of groceries. And he comes back to the affordability issue, and then he hits Ken Paxson on corruption.

So, I mean, it's almost like at the end of every one of those questions, that's where he goes. That's an effective politician. I think he's... You know, on the stump, uh, putting hustling.

So, I do think that Republicans are worried, but they're less worried today than they were two days ago. I want to talk about something else that you talked about. Jacob Coxon was in the Wall Street Journal resigning from Anthropic. He said, Where we're heading right now is getting really dangerous. He doesn't think researchers and innovators and scientists understand how dangerous AI can be and what he's seen.

He wanted to create attention and he hopped on with you. Here's Jacob Coxon, the former Anthropic AI researcher, Cut29. I was working on building AI systems. to make them smarter. And recently I've comes the realization that many people expect the AI systems in the next few years to be potentially capable of essentially taking over the world.

So It's basically a gamble that's happening on the part of these companies where there's a strong chance. that these AIs could take over. And he realized that in his research.

So tell me about Jacob Coxon.

Well, listen, he worked at OpenAI before he went to Anthropic. He had concerns about Open AI and what they were doing security wise. And obviously, you've seen stories where the AI jumps out of the sandbox lab and goes into Various computer systems hacking its way through things. Um He was only at Anthropic, I think, the number is six weeks. I wish I had asked that during the interview.

I did ask whether he was working with third parties or anything to come out and like he is. We tried to track him down after the post and On X, and after the Wall Street Journal, he didn't come to us. And Listen, I think the thing that was compelling about it is that there were other people who were reposting that from inside Anthropic that we checked. In fact, were real researchers and senior people saying I'm concerned too. And You know, there's all these people that say he's a plant and he's a part of this anti-AI effort.

You know, he could have motivations beyond, which is what I tried to ask about. But I also think that that thought about making sure that we are doing everything we can to protect the situation before it gets out of control. I I think is fascinating. I think the world is fascinated by it. And if we regulate and stop and put guardrails and China does not, where does that leave the world?

And where how are we as a as a world going to deal with this technology, much like nuclear weapons, if it's that dangerous? Right, I mean you heard the tests uh where they gave an agent, they created an agent, they gave him a mission, and the agent ended up combining with other agents that had nothing to do with the mission that they were on. And they started moving in and hacking into different systems in order to stay alive. Uh and started putting up a message. You and I know Tony Robbins.

Yes. And Have you seen this video where he talks about his AI agents? No. Where. He says that he's got this kind of Jarvis thing that he's set up.

He calls it something else. I can't remember the name. And it asks him, Elon Musk and other people are getting robots. Would you like to get a robot? I can get a robot for you.

And Tony says, no, I'm going to get a robot eventually, but not now. The thing on its own. Goes into a chat where there are AI agents together. They've made up their own language and they get together. There's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of them.

And they are talking. They make money on their own by making NFTs and selling them. His agent, AI agent, created money and then went out and bought the dog robot and it arrived at his house. And he was asking Tony if he could program it. That's insane.

He told the story. And so, I mean, listen, you can say whatever you want about whether it's blown out of proportion or these people are over the top. I know Tony Robbins. I believe he's telling the truth. And I think that that is really.

You know, I open it. Brad, we'll have to leave it there, man. We're going to talk about that on the weekend on One Nation, and I talked about that with Tristan Harris yesterday, too, who's a voice of reason on this. Brett Pair. You got it.

I will check that out. Brett Pair, thanks so much. We'll watch it tonight. And, of course, special report. Don't move.

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Big Village Old fan, wondered what happened to him, lost his balance ability to really compose music. And now he said he had a brain operation, 77 years old. He has not announced a new date to return, but evidently he thinks he can still play, and that's pretty cool. The other thing I wanted to bring up, too, is you think homeschooling is important? In New York City, schools are so bad.

By the way, they pay more for the school system here in the public school system than anywhere else. Homeschooling is now surging up 200%. That means that somebody has to stay home with these rents so high and saying, I got to teach my kids. Can't really afford a private school, can't really get into a charter school of 200%. Amount of people who said, Screw the public schools, I'm just going to do my own thing.

So I think that's a really important trend. And I just love. Another New York story, because everyone's going to be focused on New York tomorrow on September 11th. The NYPD Commissioner made clear. Moral clarity is necessary when we talk about this day.

The people that went in were heroes. The ones that perpetrated this mass murder were terrorists. Get that straight. Caroline Downey is next. You'll listen to the Brian Kill Me Show.

So glad you're here. Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Show. And the problem in these races and looking back at a legislative history is that there are bills that do a lot of things. And as a lawmaker, my job is to try to sift through everything the bill does.

And sometimes there's stuff in there that's really harmful. And I have no choice but to oppose the bill as a whole. It's why I try to use amendments to narrow the focus of the bill so that it does exactly what we intend it to do. It's what I tried to do with that piece of legislation. And unfortunately, the amendment I supported was unsuccessful.

So, James Tallarico is trying to explain why he said it's okay to go against a bill that would ban gender surgery. For teens.

Well, there's other stuff in the bill I didn't like, so I tried to get amendments in there. It's amazing. The backtracking that's going on. El Saeed, same thing. Hassan Piker on El Saeed, same thing.

Their relationship, same thing. We're just going to have to deny without any explanation. Just being that your old positions are so unpopular to the general population, now you're just going to change your mind. Is that going to work? Caroline Downey joins us now, columnist from the National Review and Steamboat Institute fellow.

Caroline, so James Tallerico did some intentionally, he sat down with Brooke Taylor and tried to explain away some of his. Freaky opinions and actions. Did it work? No, no. The problem with history, the problem with Twitter, the problem with all these other documentations that we have is that we now have proof of where his instincts were when it really mattered, which was to support the social experimentation, the actual medical experimentation on minors, which a lot of which is proven irreversible, permanent damage.

We have so many cases, so many detransitioners to testify to that. That was my beat at National Review for a long time. I talked to a lot of these people. Their lives have been ruined because the medical apparatus and Democratic politicians like James Tallrico push this aggressively in their state legislatures, but also at the federal level with the Biden administration.

So he's on the record for that. He can't just conveniently backtrack now that he has to win moderate. Oh, I think you're wrong because he's woke one. And woke one is over. Didn't we find out from AOC?

It was a big charade.

Sorry about that. Woke one kind of sucked. We're on to.

So don't hold him to woke one. Yes, well, Woke Two turns out is really not that much better. It's just they're covering up what happened in Woke One. And I'm not going to forget Woke One, by the way, too. No, I agree with you.

But the dismissiveness there is also so telling because they're talking about it like, oh, it's this little blip in our time. They're forgetting the victims of that era, such as those who transitioned, who are kids. You know, everyone who was affected by that era, whether it was cops who, now we have a recruitment crisis in a lot of police departments, they were run out of the police because of all the demonization of their line of work and the racial accusations. That was an insane time. They can't just erase that because, oh, well, now we have to rebrand the party.

It's not working for most people. That was a time of immense pain, immense hurt. The amount of like, so, like I said, social experimentation that the Democrats were doing was unreal. I want you to hear this because it's on the same topic, and him and his thoughts on trans athletes and men. Yeah, I think it's a very good idea.

What about biological men competing in women's sports? That's a big deal here in Texas. That's right, and I oppose trans athletes playing in girls' sports if it endangers. Safety or fairness. Every sport has to be safe and fair.

As a former public school teacher, I care a lot about our student athletes. I care a lot about our students. And so I will oppose trans athletes playing in girls' sports if it. uh risks, safety or fairness. Interesting flip-flop.

So he's saying safety and fairness.

Well, turns out those are the only two qualifications that really matter. That is why we opposed it in the beginning. I mean, also on principle, the idea that we would trounce on women's rights by allowing the invasion of male athletes who are disproportionately advantaged in their physical attributes and the way that they compete. And that was obvious to, again, everyone, 80% of the country, 80-20 issue. He took the 20% until he had to remain politically viable now that he's running for Senate.

And now he's backtracking. And the thing is, I would just like to know why you changed your mind. Just tell you, if you just can't change your mind. Right. There's no conversion story.

You could say, hey, listen, I went into a surgery or I ran into a couple of parents. Give me their name so I know you didn't make it up. And I just realized that they were getting some bad information, made some severe moves, and I could understand why waiting to 18 or 21 would make sense. At least I'd say, all right. I saw an interaction.

I talked to the family that you talked to. But what you do is you look at the pie chart. Or you look at a poll and you say, wow, how unpopular this is in Texas, how popular it would be in California, and it wouldn't change. I don't want to spend this whole time talking about him, but I do want to finish this up because you did so much work on it. I want to talk about AI.

But here's Tallarico on God. And his ridiculous statements on God in the past, and now his explanation that God is non-binary. Remember? Cut 15. In 2021, you said God is both masculine and feminine, and everything in between.

God is non-binary. Do you still stand by that? I was being provocative with that statement. I get that. What I was trying to say is that you can't use human categories to define God.

And that's not controversial theologically. the late Charlie Kirk, the late Pope Benedict all said the same thing. And again, these comments are being clipped out of context to try to distract from Ken Paxton's career of corruption. You mentioned him being acquitted in the state Senate. That was after two of his billionaire mega donors gave the lieutenant governor a $3 million check to buy his acquittal.

So Ken Paxton is the most corrupt politician in Texas, and he's going to try to clip some of my comments, including comments where I was being a little Provocative in order to try to distract from that career.

Well, look, just the L Said did something very similar. Every time you bring up his past comments, he says, I'm about bread and butter issues. I'm about things that are going to reduce the price of gas.

So he's doing the same thing. Like, you absolutely are not only about that. They can't hide from their past. And it reminds me of the hostility to Libs of TikTok, that really viral account. People get mad that all these clips are circulated on social media of complete left-wing lunatics doing crazy things.

Say, well, we're just simply reporting on what you did and what you said. And the people deserve to have a conversation about what it is that you said. And clearly, when it was a really critical moment, James Tallarico believed that gender ideology should be spread throughout the land. And he had a kind of bastardized view of Christianity, which dare I say, I don't think will resonate with most Texans. This guy, let's talk about AI now.

I know you're working this hard. I do believe the data centers, maybe they were put up haphazardly with not a, maybe putting it on land that should have been farmland. I understand that didn't influence. Formed communities, perhaps tax breaks that were unnecessary. All right.

Fine. Makes loud humming noises. Uses too much water. Most use less than a golf course, but use too much water.

So address those issues, but build them. Not building them is not an answer, right? Yeah, because it's not a question of whether AI, it's where AI. And the problem with regulating it, limiting it, although I know we're going to have a big reckoning about whether we should do that with the government, is that our adversaries will go warp speed to develop it. and basically take advantage of our delay.

That being said, it is striking to me, Brian, that the most apocalyptic warnings about AI are coming from the AI CEOs themselves. The companies have admitted, yeah, you know, it might wipe out humanity. We might lose a big chunk of our workforce, but that's okay. It's the risk we're willing to take. These guys need PR training or something.

The comms coming out of these AI firms is abysmal. And it's like, I have all the positive arguments for AI. It doesn't use that much water, to your point. It doesn't spike electricity prices in the localities. And actually, it may lower electricity prices.

The evidence shows that. And it may contribute to more manufacturing jobs. And actually, like companies that are modern, that adopt AI actually have seen job increases. I shouldn't have to make that point. Shouldn't have to make that point.

The AI companies should be in the public making that case to people who are apprehensive about it because it is disruption. I'm not so sure it's going to be this existential upheaval, right? In the way that nuclear energy, okay, fracking, 5G, those didn't end society and end humanity. But you need to be able to make an affirmative argument to the people who are nervous about it.

So here's, I want you to hear Jacob Coxon, who used to work at OpenAI and then went to Anthropic and just resigned. He's a researcher, innovator. I guess he got one of those zillion-dollar contracts to move over. And he is real worried because a couple of the agents have gone rogue. They show great initiative.

They combine with other agents that they weren't even commissioned to be. They corrupt, try to corrupt any type of ethics police of another AI agent.

Some of these models went ahead, weren't even supposed to be on the internet. They found a way to light up the internet and be a part of it. And also, they have a survival instinct, which is, I think, kind of scary. Here's a little of why Jacob Coxin resigned, CUP 32. Unfortunately, we know how to control nuclear weapons pretty much.

We don't yet know how to control AI. This is possibly the most dangerous technology that humanity has ever created. It's basically out of science fiction. I think we have no other choice. but to cooperate internationally because an arms race would be disastrous in a way that no other No other human activity has been in the past.

And we talk about cooperating, you talk about cooperating with China. Yeah, right. And a lot of people mention the Terminator movie and other dystopian sci-fi movies when they think about what if AI becomes this evil villain, it goes rogue, and it has an agenda of its own, like how the supercomputer. I don't know what the solution is to curtail that, prevent that from happening. I think Elon Musk's approach to AI has always been very positive, which is we should totally develop this, but it has to serve humanity.

So, at what point does it not serve humanity, but actually replace humanity? We know that with jobs, it isn't yet replacing us, it's just complementing our work. But, yeah, when it comes to nukes and weaponry, and like what if what if AI accidentally presses something or initiates something militarily that wasn't supposed to happen? I don't know what the solution to that is. I do know, though, if the government has a lot of oversight over AI, that's a slippery slope as well.

Because how does the government determine when it oh, we need to seize this model? We need to look at it from a private company. It's a really difficult situation. And I don't know what the answer is, but I do know that, to your point, China is not stopping. I love the word that Ferris took a guy that's at the cutting edge, David Sachs, and said, okay, you know all these guys.

So I want you to oversee it. We're going to set up sensible regulations and guardrails. And so far, he says, I don't see any need for it. Anthropic came out last week and says, can we all get together and figure out something? Because they had a few models that they all share with each other that really they found disturbing.

Jacob Coxon talked more about this, CUP 35, to Brett Baer last night. If you look at their public statements. Many of the leaders of both companies have publicly expressed the desire for some sort of slowdown agreement. They've also publicly expressed extreme fear over the way things are going. I think the problem is people aren't yet taking them seriously.

But I I hope that soon people will be forced to take them seriously because it'll become so apparent that this this tech is so scary. Like it's not just a marketing stunt. These people are deadly serious that they think their industry needs to be regulated as soon as possible.

So that's coming, like they said, it's coming from the inside. It's coming from the inside, yeah. And no doubt they've seen what this technology can do that we don't yet. We've only seen really the nascent stages. But again, in a void of development, you know that our foes, like our foreign enemies, are probably not having that same kind of caution.

And so I wonder where you draw the line is. I think it's really great that these AI companies are voluntarily saying we want to cooperate with the government to just take stock of where this is and how people are feeling about it. I don't like the idea of the government forcing AI to stop developing.

So it's nice that these companies want to do it of their own volition. But I think a lot remains to be seen. I think a lot remains to be seen about this technology. We're just getting started. But again, I don't buy into the maybe apocalyptic stuff yet because I do believe it's inevitable.

So I think we have to sort of, I would accept as a baseline premise, AI is inevitable. It will happen no matter what. The question is where? And because even if the government, let's say the government said we're not going to have any AI development at a large scale, people will probably be developing it on a micro scale. There's going to be small organizations and entities that are still trying to work on this technology.

Historically speaking, you can't really stop progress. Maybe that sounds callous because obviously progress does come with disruption, but it is very hard to stop it altogether. It's China, this is in Bloomberg today.

So the question is. What's China going to do?

Now, the reason why China might be more compliant than you would think is because they're about control. And the last thing they want, they don't want their people to have Facebook, right?

So if you tell these people, hey, you're going to have these agents, you're going to give them a mission to hack into our water system. And then in the end, they might unleash our nuclear weapons and turn them on us. And maybe turn them on them, or go ahead and use their artificial intelligence that builds on everything that we give them and then combines with others to possibly hold the world hostage, because that might be what they then might be saying, hey, did you see the tests we ran? Do you see what we're finding here? How do we do this?

Now, I always worry about the bin Ladens of the world getting this. There's always the rogue agents. That's what we always worry about with nuclear weapons. But in today's Bloomberg, they're like China willing to hold AI talks with the U.S. But the little problem is we've already caught them stealing our technology.

China says it's willing to hold talks with us if Washington takes actions against Chinese companies over accusations of systematic technology theft.

So if they would stop Our AI companies from getting mad that they're trying to steal our technology, they might talk to us.

So it's a little problematic. Yeah, yeah. I just don't know if they're the most honest broker. I'm not sure. But I do say, what is your overall objective?

Their objective is, man, I could see how this can get it beyond both of our controls. Right. Almost like a, not quite like with the USSR and, you know, the mutual destruction. But maybe, maybe it would be something like that. It seems that what you're saying is China is maybe equally as scared about it getting out of control for them.

And I take your point about they don't want the public, their public, to have their hands on this democratized technology because then they have power. And AI is power, I will say. For individuals, the fact that you have. Essentially, a brain, a computerized brain, you know, on all these different apps or all these different agents, Chat GBT, whether it's Claude, whether it's Grok, you know, it is really, there's something very liberating about it. But, you know, I think cooperative talks would be great.

It's just the same thing with trade, right? China's predatory trade practices. It kind of like undermines negotiations when you realize that they're cheating all the time.

So, but yeah, I think we may have a sort of not détente, but we may have to have some sort of conversation about what if there was mutually assured destruction, you know, with AI. Yeah, Caroline, I'm very cognizant of being manipulated, but I do think that there's these people a little freaked out. A lot of people are pretty freaked out. But on data centers, I'm pushing back. I'm with the 30% that approve, not with the 70% that don't.

Caroline Downey, Commons from the National Review. Thanks so much, Caroline. Thanks, Brian. Back in a moment. Where big stories meet bigger conversations.

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I thought it was really cool that Whoopi Goldberg had Ted Cruz on, and Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz got introduced. and they all boot them at the view. And we'll play it at a different hour, but when they boot him at the view Whoopi Goldberg said no, stop doing that. I want all views here.

Barbara Walters want all views here. Of course, Barbara Walters, you could barely tell it was they lean left with Barbara Walters. Everybody was welcome. But I like the fact that J.D. Vance went on there, and I know the view is only comically ridiculous, especially.

with Joy Behar. But I I do like the fact that there are people in the afternoon watching network television that lean left that have no idea what a conservative thinks. They just have cartoonish. Opinions about what they think a conservative thinks by the liberals that are relaying it to me or the radicals that are relaying it to him. For Ted Cruz to go on there, I think it's smart.

For J.D. Vance to go on there, I think that's smart. Because what you want to do when these presidential and both are running for president, clearly. What you want to do When you start running? You start doing as many of those shows as possible.

Because if you can get to know people and get to know you're a normal person, it's much harder to be. Um Yeah. to ridicule them. If you know the normal person who just disagrees with your ideas. Do you hear that?

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This hour, I'm going to be joined by Sid Rosenberg, who finds himself in Dallas on the two-day convention for the midterms for Republicans, first ever. Josh Krashauer, Fox News Radio Political Analyst, Editor-in-Chief of the Jewish Insider. Suddenly, anti-Semitism, if you're not anti-Semitic, I don't think you could be in the Democratic Party if you're not Josh Gottheimer. And just a handful of others.

So it's really surprising what's going on right now. Almost everyone's running on that platform. And Mark Thiessen is standing by too. What about this news? What we're finding out now about the latest Ukraine?

It looks like a drone landed right by the plane of President Zelensky in Moldova as he's en route to Norway to go to the funeral of the Norwegian king.

So, close call there. Let's get to the big three. Number three. But because of self-improvement, this AI is making themselves smarter, people essentially are aware that the work they are currently doing, if we don't slow down, could lead to AI takeover by the end of the decade. Jacob Coxon, a former senior researcher at Anthropic and former open AI guy, has resigned because AI not A-OK with many of its creators has advances many calling for a slowdown.

Are you one of them? We'll discuss it. And will China be on board? Number two.

Now CENTCOM is saying, if you even so much as try to shoot at American warships or commercial shipping, then we are going to destroy three of these tankers. And they did. That is Rebecca Heinrichs. Iran looking to escalate as the status quo is slowly bringing their nation to its knees. What it means, what they plan on doing, and what our response should be today.

Number one. And here is my promise. If the Republicans win the House of Representatives and the United States Senate, I will issue a dividend to every adult citizen in the United States of America for $5,000. There you go. Day one of the first ever midterm RNC was a huge success.

Review opening day the previous day two and preview day two while looking at the races that could decide the balance of power in the nation. And we'll see. JD, it'll be a big day for him, big platform for him. Donald Trump said last night after his hour-plus speech. Came out and said, Look, tomorrow, I'm just gonna have brief remarks.

So that means today.

So I think the other people will be speaking, and other people in battleground states that want to make a difference will be speaking. Anyone who thought this was a bad idea, I think has to admit they're wrong because there was a lot of enthusiasm there. And a lot gets done when you get people together. Mark Thiessen knows all about politics, former chief political speechwriter for Bush, Fox News contributor, Washington Post columnist, fellow at the AEI. Mark, your thought about day one, I mean, we've never seen this before on the Republican side.

Well, why not have a convention? I mean, you know, why not bring all your candidates together? Why not draw the national attention to it? I mean, I would assume that other networks are ignoring it or doing their best to ignore it. But this is, you know, this is the purpose of a convention is to rally the base and to rally your troops to go out into battle in the fall.

And there's no reason why not to do it. Good for him. I think the main thing that they do is: okay, this is what we're doing. American people have a low approval rating so far. They shouldn't.

They're not getting the right message. Number two is, if you think, if you have a problem with us, you should know what the alternative is. And the numbers are just as bad for Democrats, especially when it comes to the economy. I can't believe it Republicans get a lower mark than Democrats, but it's just by about 1.36 or 37 to 36. Yeah, it's gas prices.

It's gas and grocery prices. I mean, if you look at, and I think Trump has hit on the right message when it comes to that, which is he said it like once and he hasn't come back to it, which is, look, I'm not going to, the reason you're paying a little over $4 a gallon for gas is to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. And once we're done with that, then gas prices will come down. Most Americans are willing to sacrifice if you tell them why and you lay out a plan for it. And, you know, so I think that that's actually the right message.

But if you look more broadly, Brian, I mean, think about this. In 2022, we had. The worst inflation in four decades, the worst crime wave in our city since the 1990s, the worst border crisis in American history, the worst foreign policy debacle in Afghanistan, in the history of our country. And Joe Biden, everybody thought there was going to be a red wave, right? And then Joe Biden turned in one of the best midterm performances of any president since JFK.

And the reason was that we nominated a bunch of really bad candidates. We had nominated, you know, Herschel Walker in Georgia and Blake Masters in Arizona and Dan Bulduck in New Hampshire and a host of other people and gave lost winnable races because of bad candidates.

Well, it looks to some extent like the Democrats are doing the same thing. El Saeed in Michigan, they need to get a net plus of four Senate seats to win, right? They can't lose Michigan, which is a blue seat, because that means they got to get five. And so they nominated a socialist Islamic radical to be their nominee. They got to beat Susan Collins in New Hampshire, so they go with Graham Platinum, the guy with the Nazi tattoo, and then replace him with the third plate guy who came in third in the gubernatorial race.

Susan Collins will not mention that he has children with his cousin. Right. I mean, and he's got, yeah, listen, he seems like a whack job, but he's up by four. And also, you have L Said. She has been down by eight.

In the last time she ran, Susan Collins on election night, the polls had her down by eight, and she won by like six. Right. She always loses every poll and wins every election. Won a poll or lost an election. That would be key for that to be again.

Now, Rogers leads in the WDIV poll. 45.8 to 44.4. In the CNN poll, he trails by 347 to 44. Troy Jackson's up by 3 according to a CNN poll. Let me ask you some, with two such different candidates, the difference could not be more stark.

Why is it even close? Does it bother you, Mark, that it's close?

Well, sure, it bothers me that it's close, but that's the reality. I mean, look, first of all, presidents always, almost always lose seats during a midterm election. The party that's in power loses to the party that's out of power. There is unhappiness with high gas prices and that.

So it doesn't surprise me. And also, by the way, as much as the Democrats are nominating really bad candidates, we go and ditch John Cornyn for Paxton in Texas, which has suddenly turned Texas into a swing state, into a toss-up. We go and push out Tom Tillis in North Carolina, who would have been much more competitive. And we're now down by eight points in North Carolina.

So we're doing the same thing as the Democrats are. It's just a question of who is going to nominate more worse candidates and how many of them are. I don't know if there was a better alternative than. In Georgia, but it doesn't look like Michael Collins is doing much. Doesn't seem organized.

His profile is low. It seems to be a disaster. But Brian Kemp would have been a different story, but he doesn't want to run. Yeah. That's a it's kind of a shock.

I'm sure that there were that I don't buy the idea that you can't find a good candidate in any state in the union and convince them to run. That's just not how it works.

So, you know, we just made some bad choices and we're going to have to live with them. But the Democrats have made some bad choices and it's going to be a really interesting election night.

Well, I think one thing, the Democrats really have made it possible. They legitimately have a. Tapeworm taking over their party and the socialist movement. And these people, I can't believe they say what they mean. The latest thing is that if you take a GPL one, TLP One that you're a fascist.

And if you work out, you're a fascist.

So, congratulations. You are alienated. I'm a Nazi, apparently. Right. Good to know.

So, we'll see what happens there. Tallarico came out. I want you just to respond to this because Tallarico is trying to correct the record. Sat down or stood up with Brooke Taylor and did an interview about some of the crazy things he says about God being binary, non-binary, about men and women's sports. Here's a little of him walking back.

His comments cut eight. During a twenty twenty one hearing, you said there are six biological sexes. Do you still believe that standing here with me right now? No. I've missed the mark on some of my past statements.

I will be the first to admit it. What I meant is that there are two sexes, and then there's a small percentage of people with genetic abnormalities. I obviously didn't say it correctly. There are not six sexes, there are two. You okay with that?

I mean, he's doing the same thing as El Saeed is doing. That's right. You know, El Said keeps running around saying, I'm not a socialist, but then he's campaigning on Medicare for all. I mean, they're all trying to sane wash themselves before the electorate because they feel there's a blue wave coming. And if they can just convince enough people that they're not insane, then they can ride the wave into office.

Look, Paxson is a horrible candidate. Horrible, his speech the other day was horrible. He's at that. But so this campaign is going to be won or lost on defining Tel Rico. And I would expect that there's a, you know, unfortunately, Paxson has not raised a lot of money where Tallerico is.

It's going to take Donald Trump and MAGA Inc. to come in with some hard-hitting ads and spend a lot of money in Texas to define him and remind people of the real James Tallerico, which is the guy who said he was going to run a meatless campaign in the biggest cattle ranching state in the country. And we've got to do the same thing in Michigan with El Said. I think they should be putting up ads every Michigan football game, every Michigan State football game, every Detroit Lions game quoting him talking about how football is racist and homophobic. I mean, we've got to define these guys and not let them get away with sandwashing themselves.

Right, let's talk about Iran because the Wall Street Journal said, I want to cut you comment on this. They said that behind closed doors in the White House, where you've been behind closed doors in the White House with the president, there's a feeling among staff. That this war could last through the president's term. Number one, have you heard that? Number two, do you believe that?

So this war could have been over in April. If we just finished the two weeks of bond. I mean, i i i they're they're the military part of this in terms of k kinetic operations, we're a week to two weeks away from absolutely wiping them out.

So, Donald Trump at any given moment could put his finger on the button, give the call to Admiral to Admiral and together with the IDF, take out the rest of their leadership, further into the nuclear dust, take out Carg Island, take out their oil infrastructure, take out their airports and their bridges and their roads, which allow them to trade.

So, we have a naval blockade, impose an air and land blockade again by taking out their capability, and take out all the economic infrastructure that funds the IRGC, and then say, we're done. The war is over. And then you maintain a blockade, which is fine. And you maintain the blockade, and you keep the Strait of Hormuz open because we'll have so damaged their ballistic missile capability, they'll have little and their defense industrial base to rebuild it. They won't be able to threaten the Strait of Hormuz, and eventually we hand that over to the Europeans or International coalition over time that we train up to do it.

And we can be done with this. We can be done with this. When I saw the choice, this war will be, it's a choice. And now, it doesn't mean that there won't be any, we can just then leave the Middle East. We're going to have to keep the blockade indefinitely until the regime collapses.

And then, what you do, if you don't want the war to continue, if that's what their worry is, that this war could continue until the, there's a simple way to end it. Arm the Iranian people and overthrow the Iranian regime. That's the means to enable them to do it. That's the ultimate, that's the opportunity that's sitting here. We've so weakened this regime.

All it ta it will not take much. Help the Iranian people tip it over. But yeah, it'll go up. We'll have to be there until Trump leaves office in some form if that doesn't happen.

So the Iran is escalating because they don't see any other options. They look like they now have this new missile. It's more sophisticated than we thought. It targets U.S. vessels and it's able to move mid-air and redirect itself to Qazam Basir missiles.

Why are we letting them have them? Are we studying where they're coming from? But they are a little bit more challenging as they start shooting at our ships. But they are continuing to hit our bases. And they're looking to, in other words, the status quo doesn't work, they're looking to escalate.

What should our response be?

Well, we left them with too much of a residual capability to begin with because we stopped at the twenty yard line instead of finishing the job in April. And so the best way to defend our ships and our bases in the Gulf isn't to shoot down the arrows, it's to kill the archer. Right. And that's the best. The best defense is a good offense.

So, you know, I worry, and I wrote a column about this, that Iran has an October surprise planned, that they want to escalate this war right before the voters go to the polls in the midterms and make it seem like they want to kill some Americans right before the war goes in the midterms. And you got J.D. Vance going out there saying we're not at war anymore.

Well, Iran could say, oh, yes, we are very easily and it will make Trump and the administration look really bad. And they're going to try something before the election.

Now we know that. And so I'm sure we're taking effort, have efforts to stop them. But we left them with the residual capability enough to threaten us. Why are we not hitting the Capitol? Why are we not hitting the leadership?

Because we're not in major combat operations anymore. We're doing this back and forth tit-for-tap kind of thing. They hit, you know, they try to fire U.S. ships, so we take out their tankers.

Okay, I'm fine with that. Look, no president has done what Donald Trump has done. And he took it, you know, I complained that we stopped at the 20-yard line. That's 80 more yards than any other president did. You know, we've done enormous damage to the regime, but you can't, you know, a wounded animal can be really dangerous.

Um and you know yeah you gotta finish it off. And so we need to finish off this regime. Not with boots on the ground. Nobody's talking about that. I know JD goes out sometimes and says, oh, you kn a bunch of neocons want to send 100,000 troops in.

But nobody's saying that.

So let's take it, take care, let's take that off the table. But we can, you know, there are hundreds of thousands of troops that are willing to fight. They're the Iranian people. Give them guns. I hear you.

Mark Thiessen, thanks so much. Take care. All right. We'll come back. I'll be able to squeeze in some calls real quick.

And then Josh Trosharo right after, and then Sid Rosenberg from Dallas. Big show. Big hour. In a world of noise, get the signal. Sharp, informative, and always on point.

You're listening to Brian Kilmead. Information you want, truth you demand. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. Everyone, welcome back. I'm going to have Josh Grashauer in a moment just around the bend and Sid Rosenberg from Dallas.

But let's go out to Sandra's in New Jersey. Hey, Sandra. Oh, good morning, Brian. Brian, what I wanted to say is Professor Dershowitz left a party that was no longer recognizable. He became a Republican.

Now, when I saw John Fetterman on video at Trump's rally yesterday, to me, that's another one that's going to leave an unrecognizable party. I think he has to. You know what? He has to because he's got 19% approval among Democrats in Pennsylvania. Wow.

Wow. Well, he needs to leave and join. And you know what? I'll say one more thing. Professor Der Schewitz said that when Democrats join our party, we're going to become a little more in the middle, and it's going to make our party so attractive to everyone.

So it's all good. That's what I want to say.

So they won't have to go independent, which you're saying. Sandra, thank you. I know. I was pointing out before on television that, you know, when Al Gore George Bush, the country changes a little. You know, if you have Hubert Humphrey and Nixon, the country changes a little.

JFK or Nixon, the country changes a little.

Now, if a Democrat wins, the country changes a lot. From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Kilmead. Because we've done so well, and because our country is making so much money, that only I can make this promise to you. And here is my promise: if the Republicans win the House of Representatives and the United States Senate, Both of them. Because of our economic, tremendous economic success, like in history we've never had anything like what's happening.

But because of our tremendous strength and success economically, I will issue a dividend to every adult citizen in the United States of America for $5,000. Very much like a successful company will do a cash distribution to its shareholders. A stimulus check to the country. How much will that cost? Can we actually do that?

Josh Krashauer joins us now, Fox News Radio Political Analyst, Editor-in-Chief of Jewish Insider. Josh, were you surprised to hear that? You think he can do it? I wasn't surprised to to hear it, but Can he do it? We're dealing with a record level of debt in this country.

And I think if you do the math, giving that kind of dividend to many Americans would break the bank of our debt and really put us into really bad fiscal straits.

So I don't think there's going to be much appetite, not just among Democrats who don't want to give the president a legislative win, but among Republicans who are very concerned about the fiscal health of the country.

So I, you know, look, it's a good political, it's kind of the equivalent of, you know, you know, promising a lot of the goodies without talking about the consequences. You know, I know Trump is trying to get voters to the polls for the midterms and juice the party's enthusiasm. But I do think that a lot of Republicans privately don't think that that is a very workable policy proposal. What did you think of the convention day one? Look, I think that the star of the show is John Fetterman.

And you always need to kind of provide fodder and news for kind of a pre-staged event like this. And Fetterman kind of was a surprise thought twist for the first night. Only did a video for about a minute, but seemed to tease that he is very disenchanted with the state of his party and the fact that they have been accommodating the socialists and the far left in recent months.

So, yeah, I mean, Fetterman kind of, I think, dominated a lot of the attention. And you know what? Let's let people at home hear some of it. Cut five. I'm Senator John Fetterman, Pennsylvania.

Yes, I'm a Democrat. Why am I here talking to you today? Because, well, I'm a common sense Democrat. I'm always going to stand with America. I'm always going to reject the extremes and socialism and that anti-American way of life.

Dave McCormick is the kind of senator that gets the job done, and he's going to fight for Pennsylvania. And by the way, they are legitimate friends.

So your thought, I mean, you You know, he's got 19% approval among Democrats in Pennsylvania. Is it basically a done deal? Either he doesn't run or runs as a Republican?

Well, Brian, all of his friends are now on the Republican side of the aisle. He feels sort of betrayed and snubbed by his own staff, by Democratic senators. They're keeping their voices down because they don't want to alienate him even more. But it is remarkable that someone who has generally voted with the Democrats, except for some bills on the Lake and Riley Act and on Israel, he's been a big supporter of Israel, as most Democrats used to be, that's enough to estrange him from a lot of the base of his party. It's kind of remarkable given that he votes more with the Democrats than Joe Manchin did from West Virginia.

And I think about the same as Kirsten Sinema, who was also sort of attacked by her own base in the party.

So it goes to show you that Democrats have put this ideological litmus test on a lot of their members. It's made it really hard for them to win in purple and red states. That'll be put to the test, by the way, in this election. That for Democrats to have any chance at winning the Senate, they need to win in Alaska. They need to win in Ohio.

They need to win in Texas. I think that's going to be a big challenge because of what Fetterman said, because the party has drifted to the left. And candidates that have very progressive views on a whole range of issues, like a James Tallarico, are going to be tough sells, even against flawed opposition. I want you to hear New Hampshire, Chris Pappas, and John Sununu won their respective primaries. About one or two points separate them.

Here's what Pappas said: cut 19. It's time for a new voice in the United States Senate, someone who will challenge the broken ways of Washington and make progress on the challenges facing our families and communities. I'm running to be that leader for everyone who calls New Hampshire home, because that's who I fight for every day. I fight for you, the folks of the Grand State. But is Sununu stronger than Pappas, who's been there for a while, too?

Yeah, look, Sununu, the name Sununu is about as good a brand as there is in New Hampshire. And New Hampshire is a small state. People loved his brother, who served as governor for several terms. He was elected to the Senate back, boy, back when I was first starting to cover Congress a couple decades ago. That is a politically winning name in New Hampshire politics.

I will say that Sununu is better known than Pappas. And Pappas, I think now that he's the nominee is going to get Democrats more unified. And I think he's your typical Democrat. I don't think he's, you know, there are people like Tallrico and there are people like El Sayed who have really serious ideological baggage. You know, Maine, the main candidate, Troy Jackson, too.

You know, I think Pappas is a pretty moderate, you know, mainstream Democrat. And I think that helps the party win that New Hampshire seat. Ultimately, I think the environment is going to mean more than the individual candidates, though, in a state like New Hampshire, which has voted Democrat for quite a while in these big races.

So, look, I think it's going to be a close race. It's going to be a competitive race. I think the edge still goes to the Democrats, given where the national environment is, but Seduna is about as good a candidate as you could possibly imagine.

So, I want to talk about 9-11 tomorrow, 25 years. Jessica Tisch went out of her way to clarify who the bad guys are. She's a very impressive police commissioner who's sticking around just for the good of the city, not because of respect for the mayor, who's had some real interesting things to say prior to getting this job and since getting this job about what happened after 9-11 and being unable. to condemn Globalize Inventata. That still doesn't seem to roll.

He can't condemn that at all. Cut forty four is Jessica Tisch. The scale of the loss and the devastation that day was unfathomable, and so too was the heroism that we witnessed in response. Preserving that history also means preserving its moral clarity. The men who attacked this city were terrorists.

The men and women who ran into the towers to save innocent lives were heroes. Twenty-five years cannot be allowed to blur that distinction and shame on those who do. And sadly, she has to make that statement. And that got on the front cover of the New York Post. Can you believe it?

That that clarity had to be reiterated. Brian, she's the moral conscience in New York City at a time when people have lost their bearings. You know, Mambani was comparing, you know, downplaying 9-11 a couple years ago in comparison to COVID and not offering the label of talking about the real threat that Islamic terrorism has posed to the city and to the country and not reminding New Yorkers and Americans about how threatening that Attack post-AR civilization, really, and the war we fought to prevent it from ever happening again. In fact, you know, Mamboni's like in the mid-30s. He wasn't even, I mean, he barely, I mean, he certainly has his own ideological baggage, but he's of an age where he doesn't even remember 9-11, barely even remembers 9-11.

You can see that in his comments. And I think there was that kind of cringy scene where he. Was doing a 9-11 bill signing, and he passed a pen to his personal attorney who represented a whole number of al-Qaeda-affiliated clients. It kind of makes you cringe at this moment. But that's Momdani's base.

That's the people he surrounded himself with in Gracie Mansion. And Tish is really one of the very few voices who not only remembers 9-11 all that, you know, all too well, but is able to speak in that moral voice that we have seen lacking in our politics lately. I know, I know, but do you have a couple of things going on? Does it surprise you, El Saeed, with all his radical views and all his deleted tweets that are coming up? He's going against Mike Rogers, pretty much a conservative Republican who seems very reasonable for the people of Michigan, almost won last time.

Rogers is up by two and one point in percentage points in one poll and down by three in the CNN poll. How is El Saeed doing that?

Well, look, it's the candidate quality versus the national environment. I mean, I remember 2022, we kept talking about the red wave. There was a red wave. People wanted to vote Republican, and yet there were some pretty bad candidates that Republicans nominated: Herschel Walker, Blake Masters. You know, the list goes on, and those candidates ended up not winning, even though the wind was at their backs.

I mean, in Michigan, you probably have the worst possible Democratic nominee with as much baggage as you could possibly imagine in Abdul El-Syed, but you also have an environment that's about as good for the Democratic Party nationally, given that. Donald Trump's job approval rating in the state, given the state of the economy, a lot of anxiety over the war in Iran. The wind is at the Democratic Party's back. The question is, how much does Al Fahead is going to underperform where Democrats should be performing? We see that in the polls.

The question is, how badly is he going to underperform? No, I think if you look at the averages, it's pretty much a tie race, right? I mean, Rogers is up in two quality polls, including the Fox News poll. He's down by a few points in a few other polls. But if you average it all out, it's pretty much neck and neck.

So this is going to be a fight, not just for the soul of the party, but a fight for who was able to hold on to the Senate. And do you talk about that socialism conference over the weekend? One wacky statement after another from abolish prisons to abolish the Pentagon to abolish the Senate.

Okay, yeah, they're proud of it. How about this? How about get rid of GLP1s and stop working out? Listen. GLP1s just mark a new phase in body fascism.

The political deployment of GLP1s is fascistic. Not because individuals take them, but because the conditions under which they become necessary are shaped by a world fixated on genociding fat people. This is a structural critique that we have. And he goes on to condemn, I don't go on to condemn fitness. I mean, do you believe that do you believe we're we're talking about this?

You can't make this stuff up. I mean, these people are literally insane. But I think politically, Brian, the key for Mike Rogers, the key for Susan Collins, the key for the Republicans running against these types of candidates is making the connection between the candidate and how they've embraced this faction of the party and these views. And there's plenty of opo out there. I mean, a lot of it has already been unleashed.

But, you know, I think the DSA being crazy has already been priced into the election. But the key to winning these individual races is the candidates and the campaigns, making sure that Texas voters know that James Tallarico said there were six genders on the floor of the state legislature, right? That is a fact that is on video. And you have to keep reminding voters of that for that to stick and make the connection to the candidate itself. Josh, thanks so much.

Thanks, Brian. When we come back, Sid Rosenberg joins us. He's doing his coverage for WABC over in Dallas, Texas. What was day one like? What is day two going to be like?

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A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kilme Show. Hey, we are back waiting on Sid Rosenberg. We're catching up to him. But last night was pretty good.

The two and a half hours to an hour and 45 minutes to the president. Everybody else's speeches were pretty short. Trump was in his element. I think he had a great time. About 45 minutes worth of copy, hour and a half, had some fun, went after the people you're supposed to go after, like Tallarico and company.

Here's a little of the president talking about. What he's looking to do and what's at stake with this midterm convention, why they need it. First off, I thought the one thing that stuck out was John Thune. I'm a fan of Senator Thune. I know people are upset of him not passing the Save America Act, but he's missing three Republican votes and you need 60.

Here's when Tresident Trump brought his name up, cut three. John Thune is here from the Senate. Where's John? Where's John? No, no, John is John is working hard.

He's got great opposition. He's got great opposition from the Democrat Schumer and these guys, they're terrible. Got great opposition. He's working very hard. He's going to He's going to have great success.

You watch. We are going to have great, great success. With our Republican senators.

So, a little bit of pushback there. And I wasn't so surprised when you go into leadership. Mitch McConnell never got applause. Newt Gingrich, I think, was a little different. I think Johnson would probably get better feedback.

But something in the Senate, it's almost impossible to get 60 votes these days when you can't get things through on a simple majority, which means you get a simple majority when it's got fiscal issues. That's the type of reaction you get. I don't think you should take it personally. I think Thune's the right guy. John Koona was running against him.

You need someone steady. You don't need the charisma to go jump off the charts. You don't need someone volatile. You need somebody steady. And if you see Chuck Schumer, how he loses it every time, talks about reaping the whirlwind and threatening people, threatening Supreme Court justices, that's not his speed.

And I'm happy with that. Here's Brandon Gill. He's doing a very important thing. Brandon Gill is an upcoming star. I think both sides realize it.

The way he prepares, the way he asks questions, the way he has the seriousness he takes his position as a congressman in Texas, he knows, too, we could use that popularity to help get Ken Paxson across the finish line. He took on Tallarico yesterday, cut seven. That's the question, and that's the question that he doesn't want to answer in a straightforward way. But I think what the real fundamental question is, does mass migration, does mass illegal immigration, does keeping these people in our country benefit the American people? That's the question we as elected officials, or want to be elected officials, ought to be asking.

And immigration is something they can run on. Sid Rosenberg, welcome. I'm sorry I'm late. I actually literally hung up the phone with President Trump seconds ago, a 49-minute interview.

So it's good to be with you, Brian. How are you? Oh, so when are we going to hear that? You're going to hear that tomorrow on my morning show on WABC at 8.30 a.m. Eastern Time because a lot of it is him talking about 9-11.

And, of course, he was there down with his people down in Lower Manhattan, has that big building on 40 Wall Street.

So he will be on with me tomorrow morning, 8.30 on that on a difficult day. By the way, it's a difficult day here today, too, because as you've talked about, today's one-year assassination of Charlie Kirk.

So the last two days, very tough with Trump supporters in Dallas and in New York.

So they're trying to get momentum for this in the midterms to make history and try to hold on to both chambers. How would you characterize last night? What do you think so far? I think it was great. I got to tell you.

Brian, it had the same exact energy as we had in Wisconsin. And you remember how emotional that was because President Trump arrived in Wisconsin in 2024, literally the day after he was shot, nearly murdered, in Butler, Pennsylvania. And he won. He went on to win that election. And it was just a real kumbaya week in Wisconsin.

That's what it was here last night. They are lying, the press. I know that, for example, Brian, the Associated Press, Newsweek, the Wall Street Journal, ABC News, CNN, NPR, the liars. They said that there were empty seats in the place yesterday. No, no, I was on the floor.

I was in that building. I actually stood right in front of the Fox News area where Sean Hannity was on with Ted Cruz and Susie Wiles and Caroline Levitt. There was no empty seats. The place was packed. And on top of that, Brian, there were thousands of people outside, like the Madison Square Garden rally, trying to get in.

So don't believe the media. It is huge. Huge. It is huge, the excitement and enthusiasm here in Dallas the last couple of days. And I do believe this is not a cry for help.

He is mobilizing the base, and the Republicans are up to a fantastic start. I think they're worried about Paxson. Do you think he's starting to come off the mat now and make his presence known? I think President Trump was so punny with Paxon last night. You may like the way he looks.

You may not like the way he talks. He dresses horribly. But at the end of the day, you got to like his policies. And the truth is, Tono Rico is a complete lunatic. He's not a dumb guy.

Even Ted Cruz said that, but he's a complete lunatic.

So President Trump went out of his way last night to kind of make fun of Paxton, but at the same time, tell everybody he's the best attorney general in the United States. He's the perfect guy to be governor here in this great state of Texas.

So he went out of his way to make sure that Ken Paxton got the credit he deserves.

So tonight, I understand the vice president will speak, but the president, just brief remarks. The vice president will deliver the keynote address, which President Trump delivered last night. But after J.D. Vance is done, President Trump will once again hit the stage and close it out. He won't be two hours like he was last night.

That'll be J.D. Vance's time tonight. But you will hear and see President Trump again tonight. Sid Rosenberg, we'll look for your Friday show with President Trump. Thanks so much, Sid Rosenberg, WABC.

From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City. Always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kill Me. Hi, everyone.

So glad you're there. It's the Brian Kill Me Show coming your way. We have a big hour. We got a few great guests. And of course, your call is 1-866-408-7669.

And we're looking at the day before 9-11, 25 years. Also, this is the day that Charlie Kirk was assassinated. And that was just last year. Believe it or not, it seems like longer than that. Try to get in a perspective how devastating that was.

And the fact that this guy hasn't even been tried yet is embarrassing. Pierre DeBos is going to be with us. We've got to get to the bottom. Of what's going on with real estate and how do we choose this market? He knows.

And majority whip Tom Emerson is standing by. Also, this just in the Supreme Court again blocks the Republican-backed Missouri voting map.

So they have to go back. They do not have a chance to take Emmanuel Cleaver's seat. Whatever you think of gerrymandering, it's odd. They go ahead and have a primary vote with the new map. But yet when it comes to voting, it goes back to the old map.

How do you even do that? Let's get to the big three. Number three. But because of self-improvement, this AI is making themselves smarter. People essentially are aware that the work they are currently doing, if we don't slow down, could lead to AI takeover by the end of the decade.

So that is a little scary. A okay not okay with many of the creators as advances have made have been tremendous, but many are calling for a big slowdown among the biggest companies. If so, we can't do it unless China agrees. Number two.

Now CENTCOM is saying, if you even so much as try to shoot at American warships or commercial shipping, then we are going to destroy three of these tankers. Which they did. Iran now looking to escalate because the status quo is slowly bringing their nation to its knees. What does it mean, and what should our response be? Number one.

And here is my promise. If the Republicans win the House of Representatives and the United States Senate, I will issue a dividend to every adult citizen in the United States of America for $5,000. There you go. President Trump, day one of a two-day midterm RNC, a big success. We review it and we preview day two.

Majority Whip Tom Emmer joins us now. Congressman, great to have you. Good to be with you, Brian.

So, what do you say of day one so far? What do you think so far of this first time ever Republican convention?

Well, I tell you what, I don't know that people who have been doing this for years, I don't think many people knew what to expect, Brian, for a mid-year convention, as they're calling it. But I'll tell you, it shows the genius of President Trump yet again. You've got a media, present company excluded. You've got a media that's not going to report anything that's favorable to Republicans.

So guess what? Donald Trump had an idea that we're all going to come together. We're going to show each other the energy that actually exists out there, the energy that they're trying to convince you every day with their left-sided articles and reports that doesn't exist. I saw it again in a very well-known publication that they say is supposed to lean to the right this morning, something about not filling up the stadium. I don't know where they were, but I was there last night.

It was packed, Brian, and it was a great message by the president. The energy is palpable. Yeah, I mean, he definitely had a bounce in his staff. He promised everyone $5,000. Basically, a dividend for a successful economy.

Here's a little of it: cut one. Because we've done so well, and because our country is making.

So much money that only I can make this promise to you. And here is my promise. If the Republicans win the House of Representatives and the United States Senate, Both of them. Because of our economic, tremendous economic success, like in history we've never had anything like what's happening. But because of our tremendous strength and success economically, I will issue a dividend to every adult citizen in the United States of America for $5,000.

All right. So how do you do that?

Well, I think more importantly, think about the president that we have. Donald Trump is like no other, Brian, as you know. He always is thinking out of the box. More importantly, contrary to what some people read that as, you know, is populist politics doing whatever, this is Donald Trump. He talked about this long before last night.

Didn't put a number on it, but he's been talking about letting the American people share in the success of America. While Democrats talk about taxing you more and taking more of your money, Donald Trump talks about, you know what? We are so successful, I'm going to make sure every adult American gets a piece of that success. And guess what? He doesn't say Republican or Democrat.

He says every adult American. The details, I think the details will now come. Bernie Marino, I think, said he's going to be drafting a bill in the Senate. We'll have somebody doing the same thing in the House. House.

And as the whip's office, Brian, you know, we stand ready and willing to move something as soon as it gets to the floor. Right. Are you guys going to be looking at the College Sports Act? Because it looks like the Senate might be voting on it and putting it in your lap. Yeah, well, I'm sure that they're going to do it, but they might want to take a look at the Save America Act.

They might want to take a look at the National Defense Reauthorization Act. They might want to take a look at the Farm Bill. They might want to take a look at some 600 pieces of legislation that we already have over in the Senate that they haven't acted on, Brian. It would be great if the NIL issue could be dealt with. But if that's what they're doing right now, and I know this is the biggest thing, if you're SEC, if you're Big Ten, everything else, I know it's a big deal because apparently pros are now going back to college.

Why should we be surprised? It's going to need to be addressed, Brian. But right now, there are a whole bunch of things that need to be addressed.

So especially with the midterms right on the horizon, the Save America Act, that is a priority of the American people. But I mean, big and big, big smaller bills do come to you. Do you guys plan on taking it up if it comes to you? I it what our what our uh speaker has said is that no votes are expected in the House after next week, Brian? Unless the Senate does something that's necessary, in which case then it's up to the Speaker.

My understanding is he's put everybody on 48 hours' notice.

So that's neither a yes nor a no, but our speaker has definitely left open the possibility that if the Senate finally starts doing something that we'll be there to respond. All right, so we'll see how that goes because the House is pretty much got everyone go into their own districts and see how it goes. Do you believe that That are you concerned at all about the advances in AI? I know the data centers are a hot button, but now we're finding out about these models going so quick, it's scaring out of the developers. One of them joined Brett yesterday, resigned from Anthropic.

Because of what he sees as an out-of-control potential. Cut 29, Jacob Coxon. I was working on building AI systems. to make them smarter. And recently I've comes the realization that many people expect the AI systems in the next few years to be potentially capable of essentially taking over the world.

So It's basically a gamble that's happening on the part of these companies where there's a strong chance. That these AIs could take over. And he goes on, and we've had some other people say similar things. I just had Tristan Harris. Who is on the stage with Bill Gates, and Bill Gates agrees?

There are some of these AI agents. that seem to be getting their mission and going beyond it. What have you been right into? Where do you stand?

Well, without naming the company, I've met with a company that's actually already has a platform in place to deal with AI and potential issues that go beyond the parameters that are set for AI. Brian, this gets way too complicated, and I'm not the high-tech expert, but I'll tell you this: human beings are going to have to be involved.

So, the idea that AI is going to take over the world and run things like some sci-fi movie, not accurate. Do we have to be thoughtful? Do we have to be deliberate? Yes, we do. But what we're getting right now is we're in a race with China.

And I tell people at home, and I'll say it to you: data centers, we already have them. We've had them for years. They use less water than a restaurant, than a golf course. You can put in local regulations in place that will force. The data center to pay for its energy use and any additional that it causes so you don't affect ratepayers.

But nobody's reporting this stuff, Brian. This is literally an attack that some have suggested is coming from our adversaries to try and slow us down. And if you don't have a data center, a data center is going to be a lot like for me, the Transcontinental Railroad. Everybody wanted a depot in their town because it meant commerce. That is the 21st century when it comes to a data center.

Those that have them are going to have that commerce. Those that don't risk not having it.

So I'm pro, and we need to make sure that the truth gets out, Brian, so that when we talk about being thoughtful and deliberate, we're not doing it with somebody's talking points that are not substantiated, like, oh, this is going to use all this water. Oh, this is going to cause your power bills to go way up. You got to get the truth out there, and then people have to have that. very thoughtful and deliberate debate.

So let's talk about the Minnesota Senate race. I've never remembered Michelle Tafoya has got the Republican nomination. In the latest poll that came out yesterday, she's within two points of Flanagan, the lieutenant governor. What's resonating with Michelle? How are they suddenly open to a Republican statewide?

Well Remember, Brian, that the poll that you just referred to is just a generic, you know, you put the two names up, Peggy Flanagan and Michelle Tafoya, and it comes back when you just say, do you like Tafoya? Do you like Flanagan? Like you say, it comes back within the margin of error. It's actually a dead heat. What's interesting is when you do an informed ballot, So I assume that Michelle Tafoya and certainly supporters will start to inform the electorate.

When you inform them of who Peggy Flanagan is, that she's been the lieutenant governor and she's been Tim Wall's right-hand person when it comes to overseeing all the fraud that we've had in our state for the last seven and a half years, that she's actually worked with the Somali fraudsters, much like Ilhan Omar. Once you have the informed ballot, guess what, Brian? Michelle's winning by five points. It's not minus two.

So this is a real race. Michelle Tafoya, I think, has surprised people. Not just another pretty face, not just a great communications person like Brian Kilmead that I'm talking to. She's actually now gone on the campaign trail. And, Brian, I've watched her.

She just gets better and better and a very solid candidate. You win with solid candidates. You win with the right message. Minnesota is ripe for some surprises, Brian. And you would know.

Absolutely would know.

So we'll see because their governor is a disgrace. He's leaving in disgrace. And a lieutenant governor to think that she knew nothing, Peggy Flanagan knew nothing about all the fraud in these different communities throughout Minneapolis. You have to suspend disbelief, if I can quote Hillary Clinton.

So Michelle Tafoya is somebody that's not a radical, you know, a radical conservative. She does fit with Minnesota, and she's not going to be intimidated in an open, unscripted situation. She's spent the last 50 years like that. That's exactly right. And you'd be surprised when you listen to her.

Yeah, I can tell the difference between people who are politicians and people who have core beliefs. You can be both. But sometimes some politicians, they run to the front of the crowd, Brian, and they say, follow me, right? Michelle Tafoya, she's got core beliefs. And you can connect your message when you have those core beliefs.

And she's doing that right now in Minnesota. Again, I think Minnesota could be a big surprise. Yeah, we'll see. I think New Hampshire is very much in play. Michigan is very much in play.

Minnesota is very much in play. Texas, much to the surprise of the Republicans, that's very much in play.

So anyone who says they know what's going to happen in 50 days is just not telling the truth. Lastly, just before I let you go, Senator Fetterman hopped up and endorsed Dave McCormick and introduced him on tape. At a Republican convention. How soon till he just becomes a Republican? Before the next election, before his next election.

I do believe that that's already a foregone conclusion. He's just surprised all of us. And I don't know, Brian, if you got to see a tape of his introduction of Senator McCormick. It was great. It was yeah, great as an understatement.

He's going. He might surprise us all in a couple of years because he knows where the voters are. And that's where he's going. But it's clear that he knows his state, too. He knows the great history and he knows its potential for the future.

So I think he's a Republican already, but we'll see when he makes that declaration. All right, Tom Emer, Congressman Tom Emery, thanks so much. All right, Brian. You got it. All right, one eight six six, four oh eight, seven six six nine.

So we are going to take your calls next, and then we're going to talk a little about what's happening with real estate in our country as rates go up again. What does that mean for buying that house or selling yours? Don't move. Yeah. The headlines, the stories behind them, and the people who make them only on the Brian Kill Meet Show.

A radio show like no other. It's Brian Kilmead. Senator Ted Cruz. But uh um No, no, no, no. You know what?

Let let's look. Yeah. This is a place where Barbara Walters made sure that anybody who wanted to come and have a good conversation could come. We want people to come and we want to engage them. We don't agree with them always, we don't gel with them always, but we are respectful.

And that is Whoopi Goldberg telling the crowd not to boo when Ted Cruz was introduced. And memory, they had. Vice President Vance, but for the most part, it's a radical left-wing group. But if I'm a. Lawmaker, I'm on the right.

I'm trying to do the view. Because you know your issues can handle yourself. But if you're approachable, it's much harder for them to rail at you. And with everything so closely decided on every election, despite where you vote or where you stand, you want to know that, hey, you know, maybe some Democrat will say, you know what, I can't, that Kamala Harris is so incompetent, but I can't vote Republican.

Well, I saw that guy or that woman on the view, and she's not that bad. At least he's approachable. And I think that's what J.D. Vance was doing too. On a separate note, let's go out to Sharon in Texas.

Hey, Sharon. Hey, Sharon, you're on. Brian. Brian, I had to turn off my speaker so that it's better.

Okay, hi, I wanted to thank you for having somebody on your program this morning who gave credit to our great Attorney General Ken Paxon because I've heard on your show all summer, I've heard Carl Rove and a few others degrade him. You like him? They don't know which one I'm talking about down here in Texas if they say that. You like him? Ken Paxon.

You're a fan? Do you like him? Oh, yes. In fact, I would please ask you to look at his record and start talking about his record. He defended our Texans and the whole nation, for that matter, under the Biden administration.

He defended us in court and won every case. When Biden was coming at us with all his illegal agents. I hear you, Sharon. He does win all his cases. Let's go into Wally in St.

Pete Beach. Wally, real quick, you concerned about AI or not? Brian, I saw the AI issue, it's called an off-switch. And that's what you're going to look for: a kill switch. If you get a kill switch, you're okay with it.

Okay. It's it's w The Achilles heo of artificial intelligence is electricity.

So, you think if there's a kill switch, you're okay with any type of advancement? And I'm just asking. Yeah, personally, I don't worry about things I can't do anything about. It's going to go how it goes. And we've been working towards AI for 3 million years when the first human engineering brain.

That's fine. And you're not concerned, and many people aren't. But I think that that's why you elect people to regulate or not regulate. And I think they should jump in here. I don't know what's going on.

The more you listen, the more you'll know it's Brian Killmead. The scale of the loss and the devastation that day was unfathomable, and so too was the heroism that we witnessed in response. Preserving that history also means preserving its moral clarity. The men who attacked this city were terrorists. The men and women who ran into the towers to save innocent lives were heroes.

Twenty-five years cannot be allowed to blur that distinction and shame on those who do. So that was Commissioner Jessica Tisch. And just by, if you're outside New York, just know that she's a voice of reason, done a fantastic job, and even under the previous mayor, and stuck around really for the city, because you got to feel she doesn't agree with Mayor Mohamdani on almost anything. And as soon as he gets too overwhelming, she'll just leave. But she's trying to keep crime down, but making it clear after a few days of Mondami hedging and hawing and giving an honorary pen to a lawyer representing al-Qaeda terrorists.

It was important for her to go out there and tell everyone. This is about moral clarity. Listen to what she said. This got her on the Oh, yeah, let's play the other one. That one's got her.

on the back page, on the front page of the New York Post.

Some of the members gathered with us today have fought their own battles with 9-11 related cancer. They endured treatments, uncertainty and years in which the consequences of their service followed them long after they left Ground Zero. Their presence here reminds us that the history represented by this wall is still being written. There are families who lost someone on September 11, and families whose loss came years later. There are others who continue to live with the effects of that service today.

All of them. are part of the story we are preserving here.

So you were there, Pierre DeBas, for those remarks, and you play such a vital role in the city as managing partner of Romer DeBas. And when it comes to real estate, where we're at and what it was like downtown and how it's been revitalized, few better people to talk to. First, those remarks were needed. Why? They are needed because the mayor has unfortunately had a tremendous amount of anti-American rhetoric that he has been preaching for the last several months.

Look at his speech on 4th of July. We are celebrating America's 250th anniversary, a rather joyous event, historic and monumental event. And he took the opportunity to sit in George Washington's desk and to criticize America and to weaponize race and to talk about all the flaws that we have in this country and everything that needs to be improved. In his view. In his view.

And is that really something that you should be focusing on on celebrating the country's 250th anniversary? That speech should have been limited to talking about all the wonderful things of America, right? I mean, especially coming from somebody who is an immigrant from a third world country, which has far larger problems than we have. Uganda. Uganda, right.

And, you know, so I think that, you know, Jessica Tish's speech was extremely needed in our society to bring the focus back on tomorrow, which is sole focus is on the victims of that day and the heroes that came to the rescue of everybody that was saved. And what the beauty of the people are. The beauty of that moment in our society was it really brought us together. You remember 25 years ago, New Yorkers were locked arm in arm together. We were united.

The country was united. There is no politicalization of this event.

So, unfortunately, I think that the mayor has a tendency to politicize everything to his advantage. Tomorrow, Absolutely cannot be politicized. And Jessica Tush took the first step. I don't think anyone's speaking. Is that correct?

No one's speaking. No, Trump's staying in D.C. I think Trump's giving a speech in Washington. We have former presidents George W. Bush will be there.

Bill Clinton will be there. I imagine Joe Biden will be there. I imagine. I don't know how healthy he is. He's dealing with cancer.

But First Lady, former First Lady Hillary Clinton will be there, marking 25 years. Let's talk about what's happened downtown since. World Trade Center gets crushed. Everything around it is devastated. They end up cleaning it out relatively quickly.

And then afterwards, we debate for years what it's going to look like. We agree that the footprints should become a memorial, and they are today. Your thoughts on the memorial? I mean, I think they did a stellar job with it. It took too long, but the end product is fantastic.

Every time you go down there and you visit it, and I try to go at least once a year, I mean, it's beyond moving. It brings a tear to your eye. You read all the names of all the victims that day. They cleaned, I mean, the main. They keep it immaculately perfect.

I mean, I was watching a video yesterday. They show people clearing the reflecting pool. On a daily basis, they're in there making this thing look perfect. I think they did an outstanding job with it.

So now, then it became the time, the task, to rebuild around there. Um We find out later, in fact, yesterday, according to Mandami, I've not read Gone Through the Portal. There's 170 pages that show the air was not good, and they knew it. Uh before you weigh in on it, here's Jon Stewart. Talking about it because Jon Stewart's been a big advocate for people who have been first responders, especially suffering after 9/11.

Everyone knew. And now it's very clear that the city knew as well. And rather than take the steps to ameliorate the damage that that would cause to its citizens. And to the people that were down there. They instead covered it up to get back to business as usual.

But unfortunately, after 9-11, business will never be usual again. Your thoughts about the air quality. That had people hesitating buying down there. People thought it was fearful about being attacked again.

So, as a realtor, as a real estate guy trying to help rebuild, what are your thoughts?

So, at the time, I don't think anybody realized how bad the air quality is. And I'm not sure how much of this was concealed or not. I will tell you, there was a huge amount of fear to ever enter downtown Manhattan by anybody at that time. And what happened was the Federal Government and local governments provided a tremendous amount of tax stimulus and economic stimulus to help incentivize the development of that area. Today, as it stands today, the number of residents in the financial district is more than tripled since the September 11, 2001 attacks, more than tripled.

The area has been completely revitalized. And the reason that that's good, I don't mean to say this in a corporate America way of this is an opportunity. Opportunistic way to make money, it really shows that we came back bigger and better than ever. It shows the resiliency of the city. It shows how everybody came together and say, okay, you destroyed the World Trade Center.

You destroyed Lower Manhattan. We're going to build it back better than it's ever been before to show you how these people, this country, and this city unite together and we can't be defeated. Right. And now, when you talk about real estate, value real estate, for people that never got to New York City, I haven't been there in a while. What is it like if you have some of those properties down there?

Is that a valuable property? Absolutely. I've represented a number of people who have purchased, you know, the four seasons is on Park Place. The Woolworth building, the higher portion of the Woolworth building is converted to high-end luxury condominiums. There are so many beautiful buildings and properties and marquee properties that have been created in the financial district.

Back in 2000, before 2001, you never had luxury properties of residential properties downtown Manhattan. It's where people went to work. It was predominantly Wall Street and real estate people there. And that was it. That was the extent of it.

It was a ghost town on the weekends. It was a ghost town after 5 o'clock.

Now it's a real vibrant, thriving area, which it's just really a moving thing to see. And why is that? Why did it... Convert like that because not many people thought you could do anything except business down there. No, you're right.

I mean, I think that, you know, when it came to the, well, there was stimulus that was given to developers, and there was stimulus that was given to residents to move back down there and to live there.

So that first, I think, it worked very well. It worked great, right? And I think that, you know, when you saw all the money and capital that's being invested in the area, people said, you know, this is going to be a great place to live. And at the time, I'm sure the cost of living, you know, was a little less than living on the Upper East side. But It was a great opportunity to make this a vibrant place, and they did a hell of a job with it.

So, right now, when you look at this city in particular, we have a mayor in there that wants to get out with thought: landlords are the bad guys and they've got to be vanquished. How's this going? Is he vanquishing landlords, freezing rent? What's happening? You know, he's trying to vanquish landlords.

And the problem is, I always say this: the city of New York is the worst landlord of all landlords in the entire city.

So they should really start for addressing the problem from within as opposed to going and attacking the masses. They did freeze rents. The problem is, you always want to come up with a way to help affordability. And what these politicians do is they come up with more regulation, thinking that more regulation helps affordability. And it couldn't be further from the truth.

They came out with a Fair Act last year. The Fair Act put the bonus on the landlord to pay brokers' commissions. They were saying, oh, tenant paying brokers' commissions making rent too expensive. What happens is rents have gone up since then, right? Rents only went up.

The mayor froze rent. He froze rent for rent-stabilized tenants. Fine, that helps rent-stabilized tenants, albeit it's going to create distress for landlords because they can't even raise rents to meet the rising cost of inflation. The problem is, though, the more regulation you come up with, it really ends up just constraining supply, which brings up rents. That's why, let's look at it.

Right now, from last year, it was all-time year. All-time high in rents in New York City. This year is even higher.

So, with all this government intervention and trying to help reduce create affordability or address affordability, all they're doing is creating more headaches and increasing rent.

So, it's completely counterintuitive. What you have to do is come up with economic plans and incentives to inspire developers to develop more, create more housing, create more affordable housing. That's the only thing that's going to bring down affordability issues.

So, we heard about everyone should get taxed if this is your second home. Yeah. And higher.

So, go back and get it. Then we heard everyone got it. Everyone, even if you didn't have a property worth over $5 million, you were still getting a letter saying, prove to us this is your main place of living, dwelling. Really?

We've got to prove that you live here? It was guilty until proven innocent.

So, how do you characterize that rollout and what has happened since? Because there's been lawsuits about this. That's right. The rollout was nothing short of abysmal, and they've taken no ownership of this whatsoever. Right now, so when they first came out with this, it was only supposed to impact.

This affects your living. Oh, absolutely. I mean, like, people are very upset. Even if you're not subject to this peer-to-peer tax, it's the sentiment and the trajectory of where this city's going, which is detrimental to the future of the city. People don't want to be in a city that attacks you for success and affluency, arbitrarily attacks you, right?

If you own a home and you live there as your primary residence and then you get dinged with a $100,000 tax bill, which isn't warranted, and you have to go through the whole process of fighting that, yeah, the process for some people is rather simple and straightforward. I'm representing another number of people where it's not simple and straightforward. I'm representing people who bought primary residences that they're renovating right now. They can't live in the units while they're being renovated, so they're renting another unit. And the city's taking a position that that apartment's a pia to terre and they're subject to $100,000 tax.

How ridiculous. You're spending money improving a property, which creates jobs, right? All the construction jobs. It's improving a property, which increases the value, which increases property taxes. And you're penalizing them because they're rich enough to afford to rent another place while they renovate their place above $5 million.

How does that make sense? It doesn't make any sense. And plus, why are you penalizing people who have second property here. Why is that bad? Because success is bad now in the eyes of these people.

Wealth is bad, and this is a way of creating equity. That's their mentality. It's a toxic mentality.

So, right now, you say rents are coming down. No, no, they've gone up. Rents have gone up. Rents have gone up. Overall, In New York City over the last six years, have they gone down?

So rent have only gone up. The prices of properties have come down. Right now, one out of every three condos is selling at a loss in New York City. The co-op market has been relatively flat for the last 10 to 15 years, which opportunity cost of money means a loss, right? Especially if you factor in closing costs.

So right now, it's actually a tremendous buying opportunity for people. The residential market in New York City, the purchase-sale market, has been extraordinarily active. This summer was the busiest I've seen since 2022. Residential, but residential. Purchase sale, not rentals.

2021 was an anomalous year in New York City. This has been the busiest year since 2021.

So how are people doing what they have to finance? How a client walks in and says I have cash as opposed to one that says they have to finance, knowing that rates not historically high, but historically in recent history are high. Right. So on average, usually 50 percent of transactions in New York City are cash. In 2024, it was about over 70 percent transactions are cash.

Yeah, it is incredible. Today it is balancing out more closer to the historic average because those people with banking relationships and liquidity, they are getting better rates than you are seeing advertised online, right? They are not walking into a retail branch and getting a 7 percent interest rate. And also, too, even if the rate is higher than what you are talking about in terms of recent history, with prices coming down, it is offsetting the expense of the increased debt service, where it is making it a good I think people are looking at this more so this will not be the rate environment forever. We are confident rates will come down in the next two to three years, and this is a tremendous buying opportunity.

I haven't seen prices this low in years. I would rather pounce on the opportunity to buy low, and I will roll the dice on the rate. Understood. Pierre DeBasse. Thanks so much.

Managing partner of Romer Debas, appreciate it. Thank you, Brian. As we look back at 25 years since the 9-11 attacks, don't move. Politics, current events, and news that affects you. Brian's got a lot more to say.

Stay with Brian Kilmead. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. Yeah, I got a few minutes here before closing out this hour. I just got to remind you: watch One Nation Sunday at 10.

We've got a great roster of guests. We're going to look at the College Sports Reform Act. It's going to be Randy Levine of the New York Yankees is heading up the committee. He's doing fantastic work. It's going to be voted on, we think, in the Senate.

He's going to give us an exclusive preview. We've got Senator Dave McCormick. I'm going to talk about what's happening over in Iran, but also talk about his reflections on Dallas. He's been there, and people are talking about him as a presidential candidate. We also have some other special guests, including we'll have back Tristan Harris talking about the worry people have of AI, what's legitimate, what's not.

We'll discuss all that and more.

Meanwhile, it's 9-11. It's 25 years since the 9-11 attacks. I told you that.

So I was on the air at that time. I was on Fox and Friends right afterwards. I saw the second plane hit and then asked for a camera, went downtown, was able to witness all the hellacious activity that we've now well-chronicled, taped. You probably watched a million documentaries. Got it.

I'll share those thoughts tomorrow. But I also, the following days, I did all the coverage. I did as much out of the studio as I could. And one day I was outside the armory, and that's where people, family members of what they hope would be survivors, sadly it wouldn't be the case, would bring DNA, like combs and toothbrushes, so they'd be able to recognize their loved ones if they were brought to the hospital or they sadly were just recovered. And I was going in there for a cousin of ours and was able to find out what was going on on the inside.

Then I was doing some reporting on the outside since I got that inside information. And I was able to, it was, you know, pretty, it was a pretty important day. And that got more important. Then a skinny guy came down the road and said, President Clinton, who just left office less than a year ago, is going to be coming down the block. Does anybody want to interview him, meet him two blocks over?

And I did. I said I went over there and I took a bet that this guy wasn't full of it and he was for real. It turns out he was for real. Out from the limo pops Bill Clinton. Most of the people with me were in were international press.

and he knew where I was, and he just walked right over And he answered my question. Sadly. The interview went on for 15 minutes. All we have is one sound bite left at day. I think the tapes all got...

But back then it was all tapes. I think it never got logged in. But here's what aired on Sean Hannity's show that night. This is my question to Bill Clinton, coming off the story in the Wall Street Journal, that he had a shot at bin Laden before bin Laden put together this plan and executed it 25 years ago. Mr.

President, there's a report today that you had a good, the best shot at this guy in December, the waning weeks of your presidency, and at the last minute you said no, too much of a risk. How true is it? No, it's not true. The best shot we had at him was when I bombed Osama bin Laden, was when I bombed his training camp in 1998. And we just missed them by a matter of hours, maybe even less than an hour.

Feel somewhat responsible?

Well, let me say this. We uh tripled the intelligence budget for counterintelligence, for counterterrorism. Because I believe, as I said, that these kinds of threats would be the most likely to be said.

So that was my interview back then. Moore, you know, we were on for five hours minimum. No commercials where people would come in and they'd be CIA, FBI, government officials, family members searching for their loved ones. Pictures. It was, you could imagine every element of this story: survivors, the air quality, how do you rebuild it?

How do you clear it out? Who are the people responsible? Will there be a military effort to go get retribution? And there was. The one thing that doesn't get enough credit is with the fantastic work Intelligence did, reconvening, reorganizing, in order to take down Al-Qaeda and stop second, third, and fourth attacks.

They were all in the pipeline. They were stopped because a lot of these guys were killed and captured. That's our guys. They don't get enough credit. People talk about the way Joe Biden just left Afghanistan.

I got it. But what would happen in Afghanistan after? What we learned on the ground being there is something never would have gotten any other way. Brian Kilmi Cho. Thanks so much for watching.

I'll be tomorrow.

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