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From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmead. Hey, welcome to the Brian Kilmeade Show. I'm Mary Walters sitting in for Brian today. A real, really good show planned as always.

And we've got a lot of things to talk about as well. A lot of things, especially divides in the Republican Party and the Democrat Party. And here to talk to us about that is Ronna McDaniel, the chair of the Competitiveness Coalition. She's the CEO of Michigan Forward Network, and you know her as the RNC chair from 2017 to 2024. You can find her online at Ronna McDaniel.

Super easy, Ronna. Thank you so much for taking the time to join me. Great to be with you. Thanks for having me.

So I've been reading a lot and I think a lot of people have been seeing this and it seems and it depends on which side you're on, right?

So if you're on the left, you say the Republicans are falling apart, right? We've got the MAGA part of the party. You've got the old guard that is still there who doesn't want anything to do with Trumps. You've got that going on. And on the left, they have this schism that is rapidly growing between what the Democratic socialists, so the socialist wing of the Democrats, and then the old school Democrats there.

So, what do you see happening here? Are we heading into a period where we see the two parties fracture?

Well, Mary, I live in Michigan, so and Michigan is the hotbed right now for this inner party fighting in the Democrat Party. And our primary is tomorrow, and they have this candidate, Al Saeed, who is like the poster child next to Mom Donnie for Democrat Socialism, right? And he has a movement that is really, really growing in the Democrat Party and the establishment wing, Chuck Schumer, APAC, they have spent about $55 million trying to beat this guy. And it looks like he's got on hit on track to win the Democrat primary tomorrow in Michigan.

So, this is primarily being driven by young people, the under 29, right? The under 20, the under 30 cohort. And my question, why do you think that is? Why are they just so gung-ho about basically communism? Because it starts as socialism, and we all know it goes to communism.

So, maybe they don't know that. I don't know. Did we raise a little bunch of ignorant people? Kids, what happened? Mary, I feel so strongly about this because I have kids this age, right?

I have a 21-year-old at Michigan State, and these kids don't know what socialism and communism mean. And when Said comes on campus and he says, I'm going to cap rent, and I'm going to make sure that you don't have to pay for health care, and he's pushing all these free things in an era where these kids are scared. They're afraid of AI. They don't know what this means for their future. Are they going to have a job when they leave college?

Costs are going up.

So he's filling a vacuum and they're afraid. And this is why Republicans can't just take that for granted. Because it does sound good to them when he's saying, I'm going to give you all these free things. They don't know what socialism means. And I just wrote an op-ed for Fox News, and I talk about this.

I mean, the origin comes from Biden and Bidenomics, and Lena Kahn, who's now running the economic development for Mom Donnie. And if you look at what she did under the Biden administration, she killed jobs and killed companies like Spirit. Your airlines that gives low-cost airfare, like the Roomba, like iRobot.

Socialism leads to no jobs, a less bright future, and we need to connect the dots for these kids so they understand this is not the answer to a better future. Yeah, I agree. I think a lot of it has to do with the teachers' union because we have decided that we're going to raise the dumbest generation we possibly can. And when I say, I shouldn't say dumb, I should say the least informed, and I don't blame the kids for that. I blame our parents, the parents.

I blame our generation. We didn't make sure that these kids were learning what they needed to learn in school, and that's on us.

So we sent our kids off to school, and we just assumed that everything was going to be fine. It was going to be like when we were in school, and that's not what it was. It was a little indoctrination camp.

So there's that.

So I don't blame the kids for that. But I also think part of this is the way this generation has been raised in the sense of they don't have jobs, never had a job. You know, I want my child to enjoy their childhood, and they have to, you know, they're going to make, they're going to be on a professional basketball team someday.

So we have to have traveling basketball, and we're going to travel all over the country. I think we tended to emphasize the wrong things in a lot of ways. And because of that, we didn't, our kids didn't have a job. And I think that having a job as a kid, having chores when you're a little kid, I had chores at like six years old. I had to pick my toys up before I went to bed.

I had to, you know, make sure my bed looked nice. It was just little things. But I knew that I got money. I got a reward if I did those things. And I have so many friends whose kids don't even have chores to do.

Mommy and Daddy are in ATM and they need 20 bucks and it just pops out of mommy and daddy's wallet. I think that plays into this: that not only were they kept ignorant by the institution, but we, as parents, we also didn't instill a really good work ethic in these kids and make them understand that if you want something, you got to work for it. Yeah, and I would add to that.

Some of these kids, especially in Michigan, I would say, because I know my state so well, you know, these are lockdown kids, right?

So they had fear of COVID and they were shut out for two years of the classroom. And now they're in college and now AI is coming and they're like, what does this mean for my future? And they don't really know. And I think the Democrats are taking advantage on that. On top of it, El Said, this candidate, is great on social media.

So he is finding them where they live in these algorithms, kind of like Trump did, right? Trump did that so well. The Democrats are using that playbook right now in Michigan. And so I think we have to beat this. We cannot let this come to Washington.

Republicans need to fear this too. I will say, I love knocking doors before a primary. I was knocking this weekend just for turnout for high-propensity Republicans. In Michigan, we don't have voter registration, so you can cross over and vote in the Dem primary. I ran into three doors where Republicans were going to vote in the Dem primary against El Saeed because they're that afraid of socialism.

On the other hand Is he the guy to vote for because you get he's he's such a horrible candidate? He's such a terrible community. He's only the Republican primary because I don't know. I mean, be careful what you wish for. He has a true movement.

But when you really look under the covers, I mean, and I talk about this in this op-ed, these hypocritical Democrats, Bernie Sanders, AOC, Mom Donnie, El Said, he's in the top 1% in his salary. His wife runs a healthcare clinic. Guess what? She won't even take Medicare. And he's talking about Medicare for all.

I mean, they're just liars. And what they want is to coalesce power. And I said this to my son the other day. I said, do you trust politicians? He said, no.

I said, then why do you want them to have all the control? And he's against socialism. I've trained him right. And he had jobs in high school. But he's like, this is what you say to your friends.

Why would you want politicians to have control over every aspect of your life? To stop the American dream, to tell you what you can buy, what you can't, what job you can have, to limit the future that you can have and the success that you can have. And he's like, Mom, I totally get it. But these kids are really afraid. And that's where Saeed and these Democrats are doing so well, especially on college campuses.

So why don't Republicans go out of the way to, I guess, counter that? We know how they're working. We know how it's being done. We know the message that is so appealing to these kids.

So what are Republicans doing to counter that, to pull off, you know, take the sheep's clothing off the wolf? I think we have to do that. I think this is part of my op-ed: we can't just sit on the sidelines and say, oh, the Democrats are going towards socialism and have glee and think this is going to be easy. We need to message, and we need to get in front of kids and talk about Reagan's bold colors. And when we have innovation in our country, Jobs come and growth comes, and we are the greatest country.

And this is why the American dream is still alive. And we need to talk about those opportunities that they're going to have. And we can't just assume that they know what socialism and communism means. We have to define it for them. The other big part of this is a problem that has plagued, in my humble opinion, the Republicans for a really, really long time.

They don't vote in midterms. They just don't. They just don't. I don't understand what it is.

Now, I know Elon Musk is going to be pouring in, he's reviving his America Pact. And last time, he put in, what, over $200 million, right?

So you can expect he hasn't said how much he's going to pour in, but his job is going to be getting out the door knockers. That's what his thing is. He's people to go from door to door. What can we do to get Republicans off their butts to vote in a non-presidential election? Mary, this is near and dear to my heart.

Obviously, I was RNC chair for two midterms. It wasn't great. I mean, Republicans, we used to be a high-propensity midterm voter, and we switched. And now Democrats are very energized. And this is where socialism can sneak through.

This is the type of election where we can get these guys, they can get these guys elected. We have to get off the couch. We have to go register. In Michigan, go rogersforsenate.com. But we can't just take this for granted and think that, you know, Republicans are going to go vote.

And we can't just do it in presidential years. We have to show up in midterm years. No, absolutely. And I guess my question is how? How do we do it?

That's what I'm doing.

Well, part of it is Elon. I think the door-to-door, talking to your neighbors, I was knocking this weekend. It's tough to go door-to-door, but get out. I talk to people at church. I mean, do all those things.

You have to do it. And it's not going to be just putting something on social media saying go vote. It's actually tactile engagement with the voters. Yeah, I think bring a friend to vote. You know, that's, I had an elderly.

I made a power of five. I always said, go, you know, if you've, you've wronged somebody, make it right. Go apologize and then get them to vote. I mean, it's that type of thing. I talked to my niece.

We went through her sample ballot. I talked to my sister-in-law, my kids. I'm like, you know what? College tuition is going to be paid unless you pay you turn your ballot in. I mean, that's.

That's what we do with moms. Turn in your ballot, and I want to see it before you turn it in. Oh, absolutely. I'm going to track it. I'm going to watch that thing.

And until it drops, you're not getting your tuition paid. That's hilarious. The other thing, too, very quickly, and I know we're up against the clock, but I had an elderly neighbor who lived diagonally to us. And I knew she wasn't going to go vote if I didn't take her. And she was wonderful, and I loved her.

And I would go over there for coffee and stuff.

So we made it a date. Like, we made a whole big thing out of it. And you don't have to do that, but she came to the Dorge in blue pants, a red jacket, and a white shirt. She was all ready. She was so excited to go vote.

And we just went to the little, I mean, my town's 1.1 square miles.

So it wasn't far, 1.5. And, you know, I drove her there. We went out. We voted. And then I took her out for coffee.

And she was so thrilled to do it. And I'm not saying you have to make a day of it, but there's a lot of elderly people that you might want to, first of all, you should know them anyway if you look for them. That's number one. But number two, say, hey, you want to go out and vote? They're probably thrilled to get out of the house.

Take them out. Totally. And a lot of people, especially in primaries, they don't know the voting day. You think we're so engaged, Mary, we pay attention. Yes, it's very true.

A lot of people aren't paying attention, you know.

So they don't even know that in Michigan tomorrow is the primary. They're not paying attention.

So call your friends, put it on your social media, do all those things. And I love that story. And go talk to a neighbor or somebody and take them to vote because people do want to vote. But our country matters. And we just saw, I mean, I'm so proud of our country in our 250th year.

We just saw all these people come to America for the World Cup and see the greatness of America. We cannot let this socialist movement creep in. And we can't just say, oh, this is just a Democrat problem. This is all of our problem. Yeah, no, absolutely.

Ronna McDaniel, thank you so much for joining us. We'll keep our fingers crossed for the midterms. Thank you for working on this so hard. You can follow her on exit, Ronna McDaniel. Super easy.

Have a wonderful day. Thank you. You too. Thanks for having me.

More coming up on the Brian Kilmead Show. Diving deep into today's top stories, it's Brian Kilmead. Mm-hmm. From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Kilmead. Not to leave any doubt, New York Mayor Mondani once tweeted Karl Marx's words exactly.

They're not trying to hide it. Their most popular influencer, Hassan Piker, thinks communism is so groovy. He laments the fall of the two of the most murderous regimes in history, the Soviet Union and Chairman Mao's China. Mendami's aide, his top aide, Sia Weaver, said, if you don't believe in the government's sacred right to seize property, it's over and impoverish the white middle class. What?

That's a that's a goal. You know you're supposed to scare people into voting for you, right? That's Bill Maher. There you recognize that voice. And he added, that's communism, which we tried and it doesn't work.

But as Rona McDaniel just said, we have raised a generation that was never taught about what socialism is, that was never taught how socialism morphs into communism almost all the time. How you want smaller government, you get a huge, overpowering government. Yes, they can give you everything for free, but the government that can give you everything can take it away from you. But I want to talk to you about this: 866-408-7669. 866-408-7669, or you can tag me in a post on X at Mary Walter Radio.

Are we seeing a split in the Democrat Party? The reason Bill Maher is bringing this up and is clarifying is something he said with Vice President J.D. Vance. Last week when he was on the show, and he told J.D. Vance, he said, My vote is in play.

If the Democrats keep going socialist here, my vote is in play. And that raised a lot of eyebrows.

So here he is clarifying, and he's saying to the audience: you know, get it together, people. This is what's happening. They're not even trying to hide it anymore, and he's absolutely right. And Ronna made a really good point as well. All of these people who are so pro-communism, so pro-you know, they call it democratic socialism, which is just code I personally think for communism because no one can tell me what the difference is.

When you want to seize the means of production, you're a communist. You can call yourself whatever you want. You can call yourself, you know, the pink sugar plum fairy party. It doesn't matter, you're still a communist. And are we starting to see a split?

This is how it has happened in every country in the world in which this has taken place. Remember Cuba was overthrown by like two dozen guys. It was a minority because the majority was complacent. The majority just sat around and said, That's never going to happen. And boom, it happened.

And the same thing is happening here, and you're starting to see it, and they're smart. They take over. City councils, you know, they do that very slowly, and then they then get into onto the school boards, and so they teach their ideology and then went and brainwashed the next generation. And we all sit around, and nobody goes to a school board meeting, and nobody votes in the school board elections. And then, boom, next thing you know, it's on a townwide level, and then it's on a state level, and next thing you know, it's on a national level.

And all of these people are hypocrites, as I started to say, and I got sidetracked. But Ronna McDaniel pointed this out: all of these people, Mom Donnie, Piker, all of them, of Seattle's, with that the mayor of Seattle, who's just I'm sorry, but they're very weird. All of these people are very, very weird. Very weird-looking, very odd behavior, weird activities. Affects just weird.

I mean, everybody's got their thing, but Theirs is on display. And they're they all come from very wealthy families. They were all raised in in the lap of luxury. Mom Donnie's parents are exactly everything that he he rails against. Their place in, I think, Ghana, I think that's where they are in Ghana, would be is their piedere.

But it's okay for him. They're they're hypocrites. But they're smart. They're really smart. They know if they get in on the ground floor, they're going to be the last to go.

Because the first ones to go, they're going to vow revenge against anyone who was MAGA, anyone who worked in the Trump administration.

So they've already said they're going to target their political enemies. And that's what they're going to do. They'll start out with Lawfare, then they're going to imprison them. You watch. It's exactly what's going to happen.

We've seen this play before, except the under-30 crowd has no clue because they've never seen this play. They've never seen the movie. They didn't read the book.

So eight six six, four zero eight seven six six nine. Is there a break coming on the Democrat Party? And I guess about in the Converse, is there a break coming in the Republican Party? I don't think it's as severe between the Rhinos. You know, the Grand Del Party people.

And the more MAGA part of the party. That struggle is still going on, and I thought it would have been more of a break. But I think with Trump's popularity waning, maybe not. You can tell me. You can also tag me in a post on X at MaryWalterRadio.

Your calls coming up on the Brian Killmead Show. A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. I don't know. Welcome back to the Brian Kill Me Chow Mary Walter sitting in for Brian.

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So he will be joining me tomorrow night.

So you can also check out some of the ones, some of the podcasts that are already up. They're all up there. And like I said, not always political. Kim reached out to me on X and said regarding the communists, they are here in the USA and nothing is being done to remove them. Just look at what was allowed to happen to Jake Lang.

It's sickening. And they're taking over Texas and Florida and small cities and towns across our country. They're everywhere. We're talking about the possibility of a split in the Democrat Party as you see this rapid rise of the Democratic Socialists. Again, don't know what that means.

I don't know how that's different than socialists. But the rise of them, really, but espousing communist slogans. But the under-30 crowd doesn't understand that. And then on the Republican side, you have President Trump's popularity falling. I don't think, and I think a lot of it has to do with Iran.

And then you have. The old guard Kind of making their last stand, or is it their last stand? Because when Trump is gone, when Trump is no longer president, Do we see the pull back to quote unquote normal on the Republican side, which is just sit back, let the Democrats do what they want, and they just go along to get along? And That's it. And that's my view.

Maybe you have a different one of the grand old party. 866-40-87669. I just want to go back to Bill Maher real quick here, and then I'll get to your calls. This is again Bill Maher on HBO, and he's talking about why he told Vice President J.D. Vance his vote is in play, and it's because of the communists.

And he's kind of putting it in the audience's face.

So we'll go to Cut 17 here, and he talks about the Democratic Socialists of America and how even that has changed. That wing of the Democrat Party has changed in just a couple of years. The DSA itself has switched. Even five years ago, it shunned communists. That changed.

Things change.

Now, the coalition within the DSA called the Marxist Unity Group is in ascendance, and I must take them at their word when their words include. Our commitment is to the long-term struggle for a fully liberated, classless society, in a word, communism. Uh What do they have to do? Tweet out, elect more communists? Oh, yeah, Sia Weaver did that.

Yes! Good, I'm glad you're shot. People gotta realize this is going on. He's right. People have to realize this is going on.

This reminds me so much of COVID when they shut down schools and parents. found out what their kids were actually studying in school. Because they finally got to hear the lessons. Parents never went to. PTA meetings, I don't even know if PTA still exists, but parent teacher meetings.

They they don't go to school board meetings. Half m I would say the vast majority of people don't vote in school board elections. And then you're shocked that your kid comes home and they're a little communist. You're shocked, or if they don't know how to read, write or do math. But this is what happens.

We sit back, and when we become complacent. This is what happens. 866-408-7669, Stewart in Virginia. Stewart, welcome. You are on the Brian Kilmead Show.

Hi. Thank you very hi. Thank you very much for taking my call. Boy, just listening to you the last ten minutes or so is just spot on. And I do, I do agree with your opinion of the grand old party.

And I always argue this to people like, you know, the the Republican Party, the Conservative side always shoots themselves in the foot. Because we we look at the Democrats and go, Well, look how lockstep they all are, man. I mean, they just, you know, they're like lemons. We don't want to be like that. But then cometh the hour, cometh the man, and President Trump is here, and he has given us at least a bulwark against all the things that have become a little bit more transparent on the left.

But no sooner than we get a little bit of wiggling room, then people start trying to tear it apart on the GOPO. You know, the president's going to be gone. It's almost Caesarean the way they go about things. They can't, for the life of them, give it up for the party just one more time. It's always about who's going to be the next top dog.

And I fully believe that's going to happen in the midterms, and we're going to be just beyond the barricades that President Trump has built for us now. And I just give it up to Jesus, you know, in the end. I mean, he's got the government, the power of all the governments.

So it's just sad that Republicans, you know, can't salute and go on for a while. That's all. Yeah, you know, I agree with you. It seems, and we've let the, as you said, we've let this go on for a really long time, we the people. And we've just been cogs in this machine.

That the government has become, which is go to Washington, D.C., line your pockets, nobody cares, pretend you're doing something, and walk away. You know, die in office. And you'll be worth gazillions of dollars that you can pass on to your kids. There was no the idea of serving, I think, is kind of lost.

Well, we just lost a great statement statesman, and people were quick to point out how little he had accumulated during his public service. And that was with Lynch Graham. And that was just a reflection of what you're saying. There are people out there, but they're dying off. And I don't know.

Perhaps I'm wrong. Perhaps it was Luke who best missed it. We'll see.

Well, I hope so.

So, very quickly, bottom line: do you think there's a split in either one of the parties? Oh, I think there's definitely going to be a split in the Republican Party once the great man moves on. And I think one of the only things that might give us a chance is there's definitely a split in the Democratic Party.

So if we get people in a position who can at least take advantage of that, maybe we'll be all right. But yet both parties, you know, and I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. I mean, I don't want to see us be like Italy with one hundred and twelve, but we'll see what happens. Right, right. No, Stuart, thank you so much for joining me.

I do appreciate your opinion. Thank you for listening to the Brian Kilmead Show. Do you agree? Do you agree with him? I want to go to Cut 18 here.

James Carville was on Sunday briefing, and he talked about. You know, Hassan Piker and how he feels. And he's been pretty vocal about where he feels the Democrat Party is going, and he's not super happy about it. Here's James Carville. To talk about the larger Democratic Party, Post the election in Michigan going forward.

I am not going to be in the same party with Hassan Pika. I can tell you that right now. If he becomes a force in the Democratic Party, I'm out of here. I have no intention of ever being in the same political party with that guy.

Now, I think. that a majority, overwhelming majority of Democrats, agree with me. But this idea that we're going to seize the means of production and this Go just go look at the DSA platform. You don't have to look any further than that. And you know, Jackie, it may be that the two-party system is just going to be under tremendous stress.

Here in the coming months, I mean, you see it with Tucker and Marty Taylor Greene and on the Republican side. You see it going on right now. And I can't sit here and tell you for certain how this is gonna turn out, but the one thing I can tell you for certain, Hassan Piper and James Carville are not going to be in the same political party. Where does he go? Where does James Carville go?

He's not going to become a Republican. Where does he go? Or does or does Do the Democrats finally find a way to Jettison off the quote-unquote democratic socialists. Is that what happens? I don't know because it's not just him.

You also have Bernie Sanders, and he's fighting. With a John Thurman.

So John Fetterman and he are are going at it and Let's go to cut nine. We'll start with cut nine because here's Bernie Sanders and Bernie Sanders. Uh was He was talking, responding to Fetterman and what he has had to say about Israel, etc.

So here's Bernie Sanders, because remember, Bernie Sanders is Jewish, but he backs Hassan Piker.

So here's Bernie Sanders.

Well, my response to Fetterman is last time I saw it, he was reflecting the views of about 19% of the Democrats in the state of Pennsylvania. I think probably lower than any other member of the Democratic Senate. Fedeman does his thing, I think, on Israel and many other issues. He's way out of touch with the people of America.

Now, okay, he's out of touch and he doesn't have a very good response.

Now, He doesn't have good ratings, and he's probably referring to Fetterman's ratings dropping in Pennsylvania among Democrats because of his strong support for Israel. The Quinnipiac survey found that 19% of Pennsylvania Democrats approved of Fetterman's job performance, 69% disapproved. 77% of the Republicans approve of Fetterman, which is interesting because he votes a Democrat most of the time, but he's just vocal about certain things. And so to quickly cut a this is what John Fetterman said that got under Bernie's skin. be frustrated with someone like Bernie Sanders.

You know, why aren't people angry why they promoted, you know, someone like Plattner? Uh an accused rapist.

So really? Bernie, you have no regret uh endorsing and proud to stand with an accused rapist, a guy that roughs up his ex-girlfriends, a guy that had a Nazi tattoo on his chest? Out of all of the people on the Democrat side, at least Fetterman is one of those believe-all women people, and he stands up for it. Right? He at least walks the walk.

He doesn't just talk the talk. And I think the left doesn't like that. Because a lot of politicians just say the right thing, but when a push comes to shove, they don't actually do the right thing. He also said, You were the carnival barker for an accused rapist. You should have taken my advice since you and P.

Hustle blew up the main race. Take responsibility and apologize. And then, in referring to his support of El Said, he said: after you just blasted the main race apart, you're in Michigan replacing it. This is on with Kristen Welker on Meet the Press.

So, is there that break coming on the Democrat side and the Republican side as well? We'll talk about that coming up. 866-408-7669. Mary Walter Radio on X. If you want to drop me a tech, a tech Tweet.

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It's Brian Killmead. A radio show like no other is Brian Kilmead. Welcome back to the Brian Kill Michelle Mary Walter. And for Brian, 866-408-7669 is my number. We're talking about whether there is an inevitable split coming in the Democrat Party and/or the Republican Party.

And where do you see it going? I see it much more in the Democrat Party. I think it's much more stark. I don't know how they continue to coexist with a large group of their party that is growing, going full-blown communism. I don't know how that coexists.

Republican Party, I fear that after Trump is out of office, MAGA's done. It's just done. And we go back to. Giving the Democrats whatever they want and just worrying about getting reelected. That's what I fear we go back to.

Let's go to Texas. Clay, you're on the Brian Kill Me Show. Hi, Clay. Good morning, Mary. Thank you for taking my call.

It's so good to talk to you.

Well, thanks for joining me. Go ahead.

Well, I am a pastor in North Central Texas, and I'm well familiar with Potlux. And every time I see Bernie Sanders, he reminds me of the person that shows up empty handed, complains about the food that everyone else brought and then tries to take home all the leftovers. Yeah.

Okay. That's pretty funny. And it's a pretty good accurate description, too. I remember seeing a meme one time, this is Bernie Sanders, and he said, If I have a dollar and you have $20, then I have $21. Exactly.

But exactly but see, and and we know that though, but you've got to admit that the under thirty crowd doesn't get it. They don't see it 'cause they don't know and they're excited and they vote. And the over thirty crowd They just don't vote in midterms. I don't know why.

Well, and it's part of it, you hit the nail on the head earlier when you're talking about the fact that they're not being educated at home or in the schools. And, you know, the fact is they think this sounds good. The problem is that everywhere it's been tried, as we well know, it has been failed tremendously and actually wound up with multiple deaths. I mean, it's a deadly philosophy. And it's something that I don't know how to get through to these kids.

You know, I mean, we get on social media and we tell a story of socialism and how it's happened in the past, but I don't know how to get through to these kids. Yeah.

No, it's just because they've been s I think it's just the perfect storm that this generation is just prime. For communism. They just are. And it's a combination, as we said earlier, of a lot of different things that were a perfect storm, including the lockdowns, also played into that. Although I will always say the silver lining of the lockdowns is parents finally figured out what their kids were learning in school.

Parents finally paid attention. And that was a blessing. Clay, thank you for joining me here. Appreciate it. Enjoy your day.

Let's go to Georgia and Rick. You're on the Brian Kilmead show. Hi, Rick. Good morning, Mary. How are you today?

Doing great. Go ahead.

Listen, there is definitely going to be a split in the Democratic Party. I just hope that the Republicans. start taking advantage of it and reaching over to the other side Find some common ground. To pull what Democrats we can because these Democrats with these socialist ideas are. Insane.

Uh you know, I I served in the military and I've been over to different countries and witnessed a lot of different things, and I tell you. You know, as if Bernie Sanders saying that so many of the voters are, you know. uh stand behind what they're saying. I disagree with that.

Now I don't maybe that's different in different areas of the country, but I Bill Most voters Won't No, it We want to be heard. You know, and I understand that typically Democrats, you know, regardless of how insane their policies are, they're going to vote that way. I have no idea why. It blows my mind and and that's where You know, getting the word out and starting to reach over to the other side. to find some common ground Because there are things that I think the Republicans can find some common ground with some Democrats on.

I was listening yesterday to. Fox News and they had I think it was the big weekend show and they they had one of the Democrats on there and they were interviewing him and you know he was outspoken about some of the things that I I feel like most Republicans believe in, you know, we don't want open borders, you know, we don't want to abolish ICE. But it's. you know, trying to get enough of them to to stand up and speak. Speak what they really feel.

Yeah.

Rick, I don't mean to be rude, but I've got one more call I want to get to. Thank you so much. I just want to get very quickly to Chris in New York. Chris, I literally have like 30 seconds for you. I'm so sorry, but I wanted to get you in.

Go. I'm uh An elected official that was a Democrat, and I took a Republican seat and flipped it Democrat, but I was a. Fiscal conservative, a moderate Democrat. And in my county area, Unbeknownst to me for a little while, I was plotted against and besmirched behind my back. By militant progressive and socialist Democrats, and then there was a very worthy quickly.

So, you are considered too conservative. Where are you now? Are you independent? No, I'm still a Democrat, but I I'm a I am a Sherrod Brown Democrat.

Okay. We got to run, Chris, but thank you so much. I wish I had more time to get to you, but unfortunately, I don't. But thank you so much for calling the Brian Kill Me Show. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show.

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The number here, 866-408-7669. I'll take your calls coming up first. Oh, and later this hour, Will Fry is the founder and CEO of American Operator, and they help American small businesses modernize and, you know, success.

So we'll talk to him about that. That's really important now with a lot of small businesses really struggling. But first, Michael Goodwin is joining us. You can find him in the New York Post. You can also find him on exit m Goodwin underscore NY Post.

Michael, welcome back to the show. How are you? Thank you, Mary. Very, very well. Thank you.

It's always a pleasure to speak with you. Let's talk a little bit about our body. Dr. Fauci.

Now, he testified way too early in the morning for me to legitimately pop open a beer, okay? But I may have had popcorn for breakfast one day last week when Dr. Fauci just kept taking the fifth. I was listening to all of this, and it was somewhat of a clown show, but I think part of it was done to embarrass him, to humiliate him, and I don't know if they did the job. I'm going to start out with the big picture.

The big picture question: Does anything happen to this guy? Yeah.

Probably not. And I think that's why he took the fifth, because he had his party. From President Biden. And it was really a very wide, complete pardon.

So, He took the fifth because If he was caught in a lie, then the pardon might not save him. that it would be sort of after the pardon. A new crime, so therefore the pardon wouldn't help him. That's why he refused to say anything. But I thought, by and large, however, the Republicans on the panel.

Did a good job of asking the questions that really matter about. fundamentally, what he said publicly versus what he was saying privately in his diary. I mean, dear diary, what a footnote to his career. It is, but you know what really bothers me is I saw something I think it was from Media Matters. And not Media Matters, I'm sorry.

I'm blanking on it. But anyway, they had the number of times it was shown. On all the other on all the stations, the Fauci diary and everything. And it was like one minute: ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, you know, the usual suspects, the more liberal-leaning stations, they're not covering it.

So the people who consume that have no idea. If you asked them about the Fauci diary, they would have no idea what you're talking about because they are so vested in this. And that's the other part of this that really bothers me. To me, what the media did, what the mainstream media did. was Criminal because a lot of people got hurt because of them perpetuating and never asking the question of like, to me, the question I always wanted to know is: how come COVID can't get me in the liquor store, but it can get me in the bakery next door to the liquor store?

How come? Why is that? Nobody asked those questions. And to me, that was absolutely criminal conduct. But we don't have a way to hold our media accountable, do we?

No, that is a problem. As I write in my column, this is another example of how the media has tailed the American people And really it's very intense. of the the entire Trump uh public life. And it starts in 2016 with your whole Russian asset. It continues, of course, all through the first term.

James Comey, all of that. And now again, this time, with the media failing to ask anything about Joe Biden's Um Mental health and acuity during that time until he stumbles openly, and then they embrace Carmela Harris. Uh, so there's just no functioning media that you can trust in Washington. The big networks have failed, for example, and the big newspapers as well. And I think.

That's why most people don't know. Of this two-sided thing, this game that Council was running. Saying publicly, for example, that he had nothing to do with closing schools. and privately confessing He told both the mayor of New York at the time, Bill de Blasio, and Gavin Newsom, the governor, to close schools and other public facilities.

So that's why you get all the nonsense that happened, why so much learning was lost, why businesses were forced to close. I mean, it was a travesty, and there's no accountability, even just for the facts. Right, and you can take it a step further because you could say that they were complicit in covering up what was an attempted coup on the sitting president of the United States. And to me, that's just treasonous, in my humble opinion. But unfortunately, we have no way to hold anyone accountable for any of this.

Now, I do want to bring one thing into this, though. The Louisiana Attorney General announced this weekend that Louisiana is going to launch an investigation into Dr. Fauci regarding whether he committed any other offenses that can be pursued, and that they're joining Alabama and Florida in investigating Fauci. And that's his Achilles heel here, isn't it? Because the pardon only protects him from federal prosecution.

It doesn't protect him from something that Louisiana may find that he did that harmed people in Louisiana, maybe that they suffered something. Are these states. Wasting their time going down this? Or do you think there's a way that these states can possibly, and I know you're not a lawyer, but they could possibly. Get Fauci on something or charge him with something?

Is that the way that he's going to come to justice? I don't know. Um as you say, it's a it's a complicated question because Can the stage single out some specific thing he said or did to that state. I don't know that what he did federally is going to be able to be easily translated into a state crime. And we should mention too, Mary, that the reason the documents or the diaries came out Is that he foolishly wrote them and kept them on a government computer.

I mean, for Senator Brand Paul. deserves something great. For having for sticking to this and finding how to make them public, getting the diaries, releasing them. And I encourage all our listeners to read the words themselves because they really convey the arrogance and the kind of self Seeking glory that Cauci was engaged in. He's talking to Barbara Streisand.

He says he's the most famous person in the world. I mean, this is. This is infuriating given the danger and the damage he was doing publicly. That is such a great point. The arrogance, the hubris, to keep it on a government computer.

But the other part of this is, did he intend to write his memoir? I mean, did he honestly think he wasn't going to get caught, that none of this was going to come to light? Was he that. That, I guess, impressed with himself. Did he buy his own press that much that he really honestly believed that?

Well, look, I think that Yes, I would have to say yes, don't forget. When he was writing uh Trump, Trump is out of office for the most part, much of it, right? And he probably thinks that's the end of it all. right, that's the end of the Trump years and he won't have There's no don't forget. The media environment is all pro Biden.

The FDI is censoring Hunter Biden's stories, right, keeping them out of social media.

So I'm thinking that that time period, look for him look for him to go, I made it, I'm free, now I can tell the truth, I can prepare to publish. I'm sure he intended to publish that diary and make a gazillion dollars off of it. But why would he publish a diary if it shows that he lied and he was a terrible, horrible person and real and and affected millions of people's lives negatively? We we only know he lied. Because of the contemporary note and media coverage and things he said publicly.

If you're sitting in your home reading the diary without any kind of fact checking or alternative notice, You might think, boy, You might take the diary at face value and not understand the m the moment in which it was written and what it happened publicly. That's Speculation, but I think the timing lines up that way for him. Yeah, I got you. I got you now because I was going to say it's just going to make him look badly. Last question that I have for you: by the time when he was writing this, there were questions that were being asked, especially about the gain of function.

That when there were so many people involved in something like that, when so many people knew what was happening, you really have to count on everyone being quiet in order for your lie to work.

So he had to know, even then, that eventually the whole gain of function thing was going to become. Public. He had to. How could he not know that?

Well, I think it's arrogant. To assume that's what he was doing. And again, I think it has to do. with all the players. Where where is the power?

The World Health Organization is never going to admit to it. You had the American uh People involved were never going to admit to it. It might never be solved. Let's take it. To this day, There is no certainty.

about what Corns. The whole catastrophe is likely, increasingly seen as likely. that it was a gain of function leak. lably that it causes it, but That's still Is something that's up in the air. It's more likely than it can consider more likely now than it was then.

It still has not the final chapter has not been written on the cause of the pandemic that killed over seven million people around the world, including 1.1 million Americans. Yeah.

Yeah.

And as as you note in your piece, it wasn't like the media the media could see all of this but never dared to dig into his health if it would help Trump. And that was regarding Biden. That was with Biden. But that's part that's part of this whole thing. The Fauci thing, the Biden thing, all of this was to keep Trump out of office.

And you tie it together nicely there at the end by noting Biden, and it wasn't until his brain freezed in 20 in the first debate. That it actually started to fall apart. And that's probably when Fauci probably realized. But maybe he should have gotten it off the government server. Maybe that's what he should have done.

You would think so, right? You would think so. Yeah, it and and I do think that the timing of these things And the Trump being a central figure in a kind of polarizing way that if it's anti-Trump, it works for the media. And it's only when Trump comes back That it begins to crumble because now, Fauci, that's why he gets the button on Biden's last day in office. Yeah, no, absolutely.

Michael, thank you so much for joining us. It's a great piece. You can find it in the New York Post along with the rest of Michael Goodwin's writings, and this is in the opinion section. It's Fauci's refusal to answer questions at Senate hearing reveals important truth. If you want to read more, and you can follow him on X at mgoodwin underscore NYPost.

Thank you for your time today, Michael. Appreciate it. It's always good to talk to you. My pleasure. Thank you.

Have a great day. Your calls, 866-408-7669. If you want to jump in on that, we can also talk a little bit more about the splitting of the parties. And I want to ask you about the Senate going on vacation. We're going to dig into that.

And should the Senate be going on vacation? Do you get the whole month of August off? I was just curious because maybe I was missing something. We'll find out. 866-408-7669.

Your calls on the Brian Killmead show coming up. Coming to you on a need-to-know basis because, man, do you need to know? It's Brian Kilmead. The more you listen, the more you'll know it's Brian Kilmead. All right, we were just speaking with Michael Goodwin about Dr.

Fauci's refusal to answer any questions at the Senate hearing and what that reveals. And I think it reveals a lot. You also have three states that are now investigating Fauci. You have Louisiana, Alabama, and Florida that are investigating him to try to get him on a state level because Joe Biden's pardon eliminated Fauci's federal criminal exposure. That same pardon cannot prevent prosecution at the state level under the Constitution, according to Senator.

Tommy Tubberville and Senator Josh Hawley. They both say he's he's definitely Liable under state, but it's a lot to prove there. I don't know if the states can do it.

Now, on X, Francine reached out to me on X at Mary Walter Radio and said, Why doesn't anybody talk about the motive for COVID to get the mail-in ballots in play? I don't know. Maybe, I don't know which came first, the chicken or the egg on that one. Right? Did they say, oh, we need to do mail-in ballots, so let's get this whole thing going?

Or did they say, hey, we got this going, let's just expand ballots, mail-in ballots, because it's a crisis. I don't know. Maybe you have an opinion on that. 866-408-7669. Let's go to the People's Socialist Republic of New Jersey, where Dean is also a captive, as am I.

Dean, welcome to the Brian Killmeat Show. Hi, thanks. Yeah, what a great introduction. You know, I agree how horrible Tauci is and what he did was all horrible. Yes.

However, the thing that really bothers me is our own responsibility towards what happened. We all knew that you couldn't go to church, but you can go to a Black Lives Matter riot. That's science? No. You couldn't go to a health food restaurant, but you can go to a liquor store.

Okay. That's science. We knew that a mosquito flying through a chain link fence was exactly like the virus going through our mask. That's that's science.

So the point I'm making is we had a responsibility to think. And realize that we're being lied to, and we didn't do that. And we vaccinated our children knowing. that it affected children Almost zero. Statistically zero.

But we did it anyway. I'm going to say something now that I truly believe, but it's going to offend a lot of people. The ones that followed this I always wondered how so many people in Germany could have killed all those Jews and just followed them down. Why? And it scared the heck out of me when I saw all these people doing that.

Going down a one-way in the supermarket. And if you turn around and go the other way, you catch COVID. I mean, come on. Where is our thinking? I'm totally embarrassed to be a human at that time.

It's interesting, Dean. And I'm sure since you are also here in New Jersey, and we got to run here, but I got to let you go, Dean. Thank you for joining me. Great points. But at least in New Jersey, where I am, that whole going the run one way down the aisle was not in play at all.

They had the arrows, and no one paid attention to it. They had, you know, in the liquor store, which of course is open, but the bakery next door isn't. Nobody paid attention to any of the signs. You know, don't walk here. People were just like, they had enough.

I think the vast majority of people had enough, but remember, A lot of people had to vaccinate their kids in order to get them into school. in order for them to continue their education in college, etc.

So it was a tough choice, and they had to do it. All right, coming up, Will Fry joining us on the Brian Kilmead Show. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. And welcome back to the Brian Kill Me Chow.

Mary Walter sitting in for Brian. Take your calls coming up at 866-408-7669. Let's welcome our guest, Will Fry. He's the founder and the CEO of American Operator, and they specialize in helping American small businesses modernize and help them stay in business for future generations to come, which is sometimes a hard thing to do. You know, mom or dad has this dream, they have this great idea, they put this business together, and the kids have zero interest in perpetuating that business.

They just like the money, but they have zero interest in working in it.

So we're going to find out how they combat that. Will, welcome to the Brian Kill Me Chow. Thanks so much for having me, Mary. Really excited to be here. Yeah, so did I set that up properly?

Is that what happens when someone has a small business? My dad had a small business that he worked really hard to build and did really well with, but my father was an electrical engineer.

Now, math and I are not friends, so I wasn't going into the business. And I think he so you know, he my father knew that dream died with me right away, right at like second grade when math just you know, multiplication was not my friend. But you know, my brothers had no interest in going into it, so my father wound up, you know, just folding the business, and that was that. Is that the story of most American small businesses? It is.

I mean, there are six million small businesses in the U. S. with employees. A lot of them are owned by folks who are aging, getting close to retirement. And you want to keep the American dream alive and not have owners close up shop and sell off the equipment.

It leads to loss of jobs, and you really want the next generation to be able to take the torch forward. And so what we do is we give owners an alternative. Today, they're forced to choose between, hey, do I shut it down or do I sell out to some Wall Street or multinational conglomerate. We want there to be a chance for the next generation to take the torch forward.

So how do how does that happen? Sure.

So, what we do is when an owner is nearing retirement, their kids don't want to take it over. We'll come in and we'll buy the business. We'll then partner with a local operator, and they get immediately 10% of business with a path to becoming the majority owner over the course of about a decade. And what that allows us to do is make sure that the owners are getting fair value for the great legacy that they've built and the revenue that they've generated, the jobs they've created, while also making sure there's a path for that business to stay in the community, to stay locally owned and operated. Where do you get the money from, though, to buy the businesses?

Because I like this idea. I love the idea. But where does your capital come from? Yes, we've raised from investors here in the States about $50 million of equity, and then we've partnered with a really mission-aligned bank who wants to be able to see kind of a return to American industrialization, more onshoring, so on and so forth. And so they've given us some credit that we use for the acquisitions as well.

Where'd you come up with this idea? Hey, it was five years of trying the wrong idea. I'll tell you that. I have family friends back in East North Carolina who are getting close to retirement. They called me and asked if I could help them find a buyer.

And what I saw was that, you know, you're kind of unicorn hunting out there. You're looking for someone who has good character, who has great, who has a work ethic, but also knows how to buy a business and can finance it. And normally that's not the same person. You have people who have the money, but they don't know how to run an electrical contracting business. And you have folks who've, you know, come up in the trades and they put in their time, but they're not about to put together an Excel spreadsheet and be able to raise millions of dollars for an acquisition.

And so we came up with a structure where what we don't want to do is we buy the business and then we keep it all ours forever. That's not actually keeping it locally owned and operated. It's not helping Americans become owners. And so that's where we came up with a structure that we call operate to own.

Okay, I love this. It's like renting to own. It's the same concept. Exactly. For facility operators.

So you get this loan, you maintain 10% stake in the business, correct? Or do you give the new guy 10% stake? We give the new guy 10% and then they can earn up the 70%.

Okay, so you will always hold 30% in this company forever. Unless they want us out. Like we're not obligated to sell, but we don't want to be in an unhappy marriage.

So ten years down the line, they're like, hey, I want you to kick rocks, we'll let them buy us out.

Okay. And they w you get the loan. The loan is, I assume, in your name, not the new guy's name, or the loan's in the new guy's name. Yeah, it's from American Operator.

Okay, so the loan's an American operator's name. And you have an agreement with this purchaser, this guy who, like HVAC, is a great example because there's many HVAC operators out there. There's a lot of tradespeople, I will say, because I deal with a lot of them because I live in a 150-year-old house.

So I got contractors here all the time who are very good at their trade but don't know how to run a business. They just don't. I cannot tell you the number of people who have never billed me. And I'm like, you know what? You come to me with a bill, I'll pay you, but it's not my job to do your accounting.

I'll pay them. I will pay them. You come to me two years from now, go, hey, I forgot to bill you. I'll pay you because you provided a service. But I'm not chasing you down to give you money.

So I like this collaboration because it really helps to try to get people back into the trades. And the trades are AI-proof.

So these are really good examples, and I love this. They you They have to then, I would assume, pay start paying you back, but you provide them services of like accounting and teach them how to run the business? Or do you provide that part of the business to them? Yes.

So we're actually paid back from the cash flows of the business. Right.

So the operators that we're partnering with, we give them a base salary, they have a bonus and then they get 10% of the profits on the first year. And as they get more and more ownership, they get their fair share of the profits. Our repayment actually comes from the business kicking off profit. And then what we do to support them, one of the most fun things that we did is we actually went out to a bunch of owners who were nearing retirement. And we brought them in as advisors.

Some of them had actually already sold their business. And we said, Hey, your board is all get out. You've spent 40, 50 years running a business. You're now sitting at home twiddling your thumbs. Why don't you come help mentor and coach the next generation of owners?

And so these advisors get assigned to the businesses that we buy and then they work hand in hand with the operators. Because our kind of mental model is like, hey, we're not fool of ourselves.

So we're not arrogant. We know that we're not experts at HVAC. We know we're not experts at electrical manufacturing, fill in the blank. But we can go find the people who are and they can help coach them on, hey, this is how you should be doing invoicing, or hey, this is how you could probably finance your equipment so you're not spending all cash to do so. And so they really help kind of coach the operators on the day-to-day.

And then our team manages the accounting and the taxes so that they're not having to, you know, bite off more than they can chew. Super interesting.

Now, what are the types of businesses? Are there only certain businesses that you do, or are you up for any type of small business? And what do you define as small, by the way? Yeah, so we're only focused on businesses in what we call the critical economy.

So that's manufacturing, distribution, or the trades. We don't do anything in retail. We don't do any restaurants. We don't do any healthcare. And then from a business size perspective, they're typically making between $2 and $10 million in revenue.

So they're definitely not large businesses. They're not super small businesses either. And so that's kind of the sweet spot. The reason that we like that is like, A, we're very mission-oriented and kind of patriotic. We need these businesses to survive if we're going to be competitive against China in the decades to come.

Also, selfishly, to your point, they're the most AI immune. And so we're not having to worry about like, hey, is some robot going to plunge a toilet? At least last time I checked, that's not happening anytime soon. And so those are really the businesses that we want to focus on. Yeah, well, Japan's working on that right now because you said it.

Exactly. Have you seen these robots? These have got robots now who can come and clean your house, which I would love to have someone clean my house, but I find robots to be really creepy.

So that's not happening. controls the robot. You know, I don't want that run around. Yeah, and they map out everything in your house. Who knows, you know, who's getting the CNE and hearing my home?

I don't like any of it. But again, if you offered me someone who's going to come and clean my house, I'd be like, all right, fine.

Now, okay, so how does this work? How do people find you? How do small businesses, someone who's looking at retiring, obviously you want to get it before they retire? You want to, well, let me ask you that. What is the sweet spot for someone who wants to hand over their business to have it continue into the next generation?

What's the sweet spot? One year left to retirement, five years left to retirement? What is it? Yes, so uh the the honest answer is As soon as possible for them to start planning for it. If you can start grooming a successor, you know, a third of the time we're actually backing an employee to become the majority owner.

That makes our lives a whole lot easier.

So that's the ideal.

Now, the problem is no one likes to do preventative things in life. I think 30% of Americans floss every morning. That's kind of the percentage that have a plan at their business when they're nearing retirement.

So we typically see folks a year out from when they want to retire. We would ideally see them two to three years out so we can give them advice on how to increase the amount that we'd be willing to pay for their business, how to improve their business. And so that's kind of the sweet spot. I would say also one of the things that we do, and we've partnered closely with local chambers of commerce, is that we run a program called Locally Owned and Operated. And so if you're a current business owner and call it five years out from retirement, go to locallyownedandoperated.org.

We give you a certification so that people in your town know that you're locally owned and operated, and then a bunch of really great benefits and perks in a fun community of thousands. Of other owners. If you're calling two to three years out from retirement, reach out at AmericanOperator.com. Our team will be really honored to chat with you, hear your story, and see if we can help you out. All right.

Now, what if someone wants to be your mentor? Do they also go to AmericanOperator.com? Yeah, so there's kind of three ways to engage with American operator. You're a retiring owner who's, you know, one to three years out from retirement. Give us a call.

You're a current or retired owner. You don't want to sell right now. You want to give back. You want to kind of stay in the game. Reach out.

Chloe runs our advisor program. I think we're up to 92 current retired owners who are advising operators with us. And then last but not least, if you have put your time in the trenches, you're ready to achieve the American dream yourself, you want to become an owner, you can reach out and cole leads our operator program. We'd be really excited to chat with you.

So the one place, the one catch-all place that everyone can go to if they're listening to this is AmericanOperator.com. Yep, that's exactly right. No, because I'm thinking of my cousin who has an HVAC company and no kids. And well, he has a daughter, but his daughter went into the Marines and now lives in another state.

So she's not going to be taking over his business.

So there's no kids to take over the business.

So I'm thinking about that, and I'm like, wow, this is probably a really good thing because he still keeps his hand in the business for a while while it's making money. And it kind of allows these owners to ease out of it without just going cold turkey. And it still keeps some money flowing to them, right? Exactly. And, like, a lot of owners, and it's probably the same with your father, their business is their identity.

Like, I'm Bob the plumber, or I'm known as Bob the guy who runs a tow truck company. Right.

And so, for them, it's a lot to give up. And they kind of have to find their meaning and their purpose in the next chapter. That's part of the reason we put together this advisor program is to give them a soft landing where they can still kind of capitalize on the wisdom and the experience and the hard lessons learned over the years and not just go from, hey, I'm all in. Everyone knows me as a business owner. I'm working 40, 50, 60 hours a week.

I have the employee salaries on my shoulders, my customers counting on me. And then all of a sudden, it's like, wait a second, what am I doing with my life? And a lot of them will say, hey, I want to go fishing or I want to go travel and whatnot. But that only lasts for so long. You want to find ways for folks to have purpose and meaning and give back.

Yeah, and you just gradually transfer the business to the new owner so that in a couple of years they'll have full ownership of the company and you're out. Yep. Yeah, exactly. And they'll have control. And then, you know, a big thing that we like to do is just make sure that we've set up the ground rules and kind of framework for the business to continue on.

You know, we keep the name the same. We keep the employees around. This is not an offshoring play. This is very much like a pro-America. Let's keep businesses thriving in our country.

So you're not an evil capital venturist? No, we're not a vulture capitalist or a private equity roll-up. You know, I don't think all private equity is evil, but I don't love the idea of these kind of Wall Street Greenwich types buying up all these small businesses and then sucking jobs out and pushing things offshore. You want Main Street to be vibrant and thriving. I love it.

Will Fry, thank you so much. Find out more at AmericanOperator.com. Thank you for joining us. I think this is so interesting. I really appreciate your time.

Yeah, thanks for having me, Mary. Absolutely. And just one quick thing: he went to the University of Pennsylvania, double-majored across the Wharton School and the College of Arts and Sciences. And while he was there, he was an early member of the Dorm Room Fund, which is one of the largest student-run venture firms in the country.

So, this guy is no dummy, so go check it out. More coming up on the Brian Killmeat Show. Real talk, real guests, real insight. Where curiosity meets conversation is the Brian Killmeat Show. Radio that makes you think.

This is the Brian Kill Me Show. Wow, All right, let's get into some news here, if you will. If you want to comment on what we're talking about earlier, please do. If you want to comment on our guests, please do as well. I just wanted to get into this very, very quickly here.

We had that horrific shooting, of course, in Idaho, Great Falls, Iowa. Excuse me, Idaho. Iowa. Yeah, Great Falls. Twin Falls.

Excuse me. Twin Falls. Oh, my goodness. In Idaho. What a mess.

Twin Falls, not Great Falls. We now know the identity of the killer, Chad Williams, twenty four years old, using a long gun. And we now know that I believe there are now three victims and Six others who were shot.

So, two immediately, and I believe another one. We're getting reports that another one did pass.

So, it would be three. Victims. You know, it's interesting. We don't know his family is fully cooperating with everyone, which is great that the family is cooperating. And of course, that they're heartbroken as well, right?

With all of this, this is their kid, and you've got to deal with losing your kid, but also the aftermath of what they They did what your child did. He died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound because that's what cowards do. The police chief Matthew Hicks had a press conference yesterday and said, We want to take a moment and commend the actions of an off-duty officer and a citizen and their heroic action to stop the incident. We believe their actions helped drive the suspect away from the scene, preventing further casualties.

Now, they're still tracing this guy's movements. before the shooting. And, you know, thank goodness for two good guys with guns to help prevent a bad guy with a gun from further killing people. Although, one of the people who was killed was in a parking lot. He began opening fire at the restaurant around 2 o'clock on Saturday, and then it was spilled out into the parking lot, which is where you saw the good guys with guns help draw fire away and kind of take him off of his game.

And it's clear that this kid had no plan. Kid, he's 24. It's clear that this man had no plan.

So obviously, he seems very angry. One In-N-Out employee dragged a wounded co-worker across the parking lot. Others tried to help until the paramedics arrived. Video captured from a nearby vehicle appeared to show the gunman moving through the parking lot before pointing a rifle towards the driver's side window of a blue Tesla and firing twice. We now know that the man in that car, he was at a Tesla charging station, did die.

His wife survived. Yeah.

An associate at the fast food chain was killed in the shooting as well. Yeah.

And I don't know who the third victim that reportedly passed where they were a bystander, were they an employee? We don't know. They report, let's see. The Police have not identified the trooper or the bystander, but the Idaho statesman detailed one of them, and his name is Jordan Salinas of Kimberly, Ohio. He was the one that you saw come up.

I think he had like a cowboy-type hat on. He was dressed in black, and you saw him firing and drawing. And he, the shooter, turned around and fired at him, and you saw him duck and run, and he took cover. He's reportedly a healthcare worker, the full-time caregiver of his wheelchair-bound brother. And he took up gun training after a 2021 shooting.

And he said he was able to observe, orient, and decide that: okay, this is the guy before he became, before he started to act. And Selena said he did not like it when the bullets were firing both ways. And he said he felt no fear.

So, good guys, two good guys with guns. Help distract and possibly prevent a much worse tragedy.

So that's always, that's always a good thing. All right, kudos to those two men. Thank you for doing that. I'm Mary Walter, and you're listening to the Brian Kilmy Show. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City.

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Thank you for joining me. 866-408-7669 is my number. And you can also tag me in a post on X at MaryWalter Radio, and I will do my best to multitask and get to those. Joining us now is Chris Swecker. Chris is a former FBI assistant director.

Let's talk about those flock cameras that are everywhere all of a sudden. Chris, welcome to the show. Oh, good to be on the show. Yeah, this is an interesting topic you got today. Yeah, because I've seen complaints all over social media about these flock cameras.

We've seen people who are all dressed in black cutting them down, which obviously is not the answer. I do not advocate for vandalism. And I saw one guy sitting in a fold-out lawn chair with a pool skimmer, and he was just holding the pool skimmer up over the flock camera. And the cops were coming to arrest him, and one guy stopped and said, Tell me your name, I'll come bail you out.

So people don't like it. And I have a story out of a California town, but I just want to quickly have you listen to this. This is West Virginia state delegate Chris Anders talking about flock cameras, and he doesn't like them either. Here we go.

So you're basically building a database of law-abiding citizens carrying firearms. This is completely out of control. This is not what freedom looks like. I mean, I guess you could say we could all put a barcode on our forehead and have a scanner every 20 feet. Uh I don't want to live in that in that world, and neither do your viewers.

Uh you can't even keep crime out of prison, so why make society a prison? We have to fight for our God-given rights, and the demand is go get a dang warrant.

So, is he right? I mean, it is true we can't keep crime out of prisons, which is pretty ironic. It is a fantastic point. But do they need a warrant? Because I'm driving on a public street.

No, they don't need a warrant, never have. I mean, it's a pretty well established legal principle that. If you're in a public area. it's fair game. You can be recorded, you can be videoed, you can be surveilled from a satellite, from a drone, from a posted camera.

I mean, we've had cameras in public places For years now, I mean for decades. And that video surveillance has been out there for a long time. The only difference here is, I think the thing that bothers these these people that are against it is that it records your license number and your I and hence the owner of the car, and it and you can track movements. But that that's That's just modern technology. I mean, criminals have gotten highly technically proficient.

And I think this is fair game. I mean, the test that I present to people is: look, if your child were abducted, would you want this in place to rapidly try to identify the kidnapper and get your child back? And I think the universal answer is yes. I mean, I understand the privacy concerns, and we don't trust our government, and we shouldn't trust our government necessarily. But in this case, it solves crimes.

And it's not there to prevent crimes, I don't think, because most people don't know what's really going on.

So it's not going to deter conduct, but it will solve crimes. Yeah, I think that people look at their car as their second home.

Some people spend so much time in their cars that they kind of look at that as their private space. And so my home is on a public road as well. And you can look in the windows. But if the state came up to my home and started putting a camera in my windows, I would assume that most people would be very upset with that. They wouldn't like that.

So I kind of get where the anger comes from. Here's another thing. I live in the People's Socialist Republic of New Jersey, where our former governor, Murphy, Phil Murphy, gave a China-linked firm the EasyPass contract in New Jersey. Yeah.

So now right?

So who's getting this information? Is China linked to this in any way? How do we know? Is it by is it state by state that they decide who gets the contract? Because in New Jersey now, China knows everywhere I go if I use my EasyPass.

It's not just state by state, it's locality by locality.

So you you could have the city I live in Charlotte, North Carolina, the city could have a a contract with Flock, not not put out the bid by the state. I mean, the state can certainly put them on the highways, state maintained roads and that sort of thing. But it's all over the place, really. And it's not quite as cohesive as some people think in terms of having this one universal database where all that data goes to. That big brother government database.

Frankly, the government is not that good at connecting dots. We knew we saw that in nine eleven. I mean, they they're still not that good at it. They're not as good as the private sector, Google and Yahoo and all these sites that are tracking your every mouse click, every keyboard click and tracking where you're searching and what you're looking at and where you are. I mean, that the big brother is really in the private sector, and we take our eye off that ball too much.

And the government's actually trying to solve some crimes.

So, one of the problems is in Roseville, California, it's just outside of Sacramento. At least six times Flock sent alerts to the Roosevelt Police Department identifying one man's vehicle as stolen or used in a felony crime, and it's happened so many times that the police department just has this guy's license plate number memorized because it keeps confusing the nine on his license plate four and eight.

So, this guy kept getting calls from the police department that his car has been stolen, his car was stolen, or it was used in a felony crime.

So, it's misreading. And they say that hundreds of pages of records show that in 2023 and 2024, Flock sent 1,427 alerts to the police in Roseville, flagging vehicles as stolen or used in a felony. And an analysis by the police department found that 71% of those alerts were wrong. Flock read the license plates incorrectly.

So, what good is this thing? What purpose does it really serve? Yeah, those are cases where that's why we have civil remedies. I mean, the way to keep the governments in line, and the same thing in the private sector is you have the threat of a civil lawsuit hanging over their heads. We shouldn't give them any kind of immunity.

They shouldn't have any type of immunity, even qualified immunity.

So, this is the government working with the private sector.

So, I would advocate that you get the quality control by suing them. And Again, I go back to the whole theme of solving crimes and In situations where you've got a child abducted, particularly missing children, missing adults, missing elder adults. I mean, they've got some great success stories. There's over a thousand cases that they can cite on their website. I'm not saying it's a perfect system, and it's a system.

Whenever you have the government working with the private sector, it's a, you know, you've got to have concerns. And I'm especially concerned about what you mentioned about China. We have the same situation in Charlotte, North Carolina, where our toll system was bidded out to a Chinese company. And that should never happen. There ought to be legislation on that.

And that's where our focus ought to be: making sure there's quality control and making sure that these are American companies and that this data stays here in the United States with American companies. Yeah, and the flaw cameras, everyone thinks they're just reading the license plate, but they can also read vehicle characteristics like color, model, dense, and bumper stickers. They can also tell how many people are in the car, and they can. Tell whether they're male or female. I just think for a lot of people, that's just a bridge.

Like, if you're reading my license plate, we've had our police department have license plate readers, and sometimes the car just sits there and reads license plates, looking for people who, I guess, you know, have tickets or whatever, because when it comes to collecting money, nobody does it better than the government. But, you know, I think a lot of that is a bridge. Why do they need to know the number of people who are in my car? Why do they need to know if it's male or female? If they're just license plate readers, to me, that sounds like there's something else going on.

I just don't like this one. Yeah, this is where we need to step in. I'm glad there's some tension to this right now because it isn't it may not be ready or prime time in the sense of it what you mentioned it being inaccurate and some other problems here. This is where I think the attention is good. It can be we can actually get this regulated and get some quality control through regulation.

If we can ever get Congress to come together on anything or even a state assembly. But it's whenever you get new technology, there was a big resistance to DNA being included in having that big DNA database called CODIS, where anyone who was arrested, their DNA would go into the CODIS system. There was resistance to fingerprints in the early days, and it took a while to get it right, but it's the best crimes two of the best crime solving tools we have.

So it's just another tool in the arsenal, and it can't you got to make sure it isn't misused and it there is quality control, and it's not foreign owned.

So I'm glad there's attention to it, and I think maybe people will start pushing for some good legislation both in the states and the federal laws. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, the stories go on and on. In Toledo, this guy was mauled by a police dog because the Flock camera misread the seven on his license plate as a two. And because of his injuries, he lost his job and he was evicted from his home.

He settled a lawsuit against the city and the police officer for $35,000.

So in other words, you're just suing the taxpayers. Flock is not the one who was sued here because the low-hanging fruit is the city, right? And the police department.

So now taxpayers are on the hook paying for this. And I think it's great to say, yeah, you know, we really should have some legislation. But I think it's really up to the. The towns and the municipalities, the politicians who said yes to these things in the first place, to admit that they made a mistake and cancel the contracts. And I don't know how much that costs.

I don't know how much it costs to cancel a contract. And you still have these things hanging up there. I mean, I guess, can you see any nefarious purpose or any nefarious use for these things at all? Oh, sure. But there's always a suspicion when you give the government data that that they they won't use it But they'll misuse it.

I mean, that we've had that concern since the turn of the century. And there's always been a debate about what kind of go uh information the government can collect against us. They have our tax returns, they have all our licensing information, they have all just so much data on us. And there and there are rules and regulations, federal rules and regulations around that. I'm not saying that this is this is a perfect system, but as a career law enforcement officer, a former prosecutor, there's a there's an aspect to it that I think is beneficial to society in general.

And this is a bigger, broader debate because it isn't just licensed placed readers. I mean, we're talking about a ton of data that not just the government but the private sector collects. And I honestly would be more concerned about the private sector and what they're collecting on us and where that's going. And Big Brother is definitely in the private sector. I mean, it exists in the public sector to some extent, but to be honest with you, the government isn't as competent as the private sector, these tech companies And actually scraping the data up and making, you know, and doing things with it.

So, just one quick question: who's Big Brother then, if it's not the government? I think it's the private sector. I think it's the big tech companies. I think they have far, far more data than the government has, and they have far greater abilities and less restrictions on what they do with that data. And I think people truly understood what's being collected in the private sector, it would scare them even more.

Yeah, and we all read we all get those little uh we all get those little Privacy notices to read that are 24 pages long. And links within them to click and everything else because they make it super hard for you to really find out. Because I know most people punch out before they actually realize what they're clicking yes to because they just want to get going and I got this to do.

So, yes, fine, whatever. And we sign away, we easily sign it away. Chris Wecker, thank you so much for joining me. Very interesting conversation. I appreciate it.

Thank you. Thank you. Absolutely. Have a great rest of your day. I'll get to your calls coming up here on the Brian Kilmey Show.

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We were just talking about those flock cameras that have been around for a while, but everybody's starting to notice that they're there. And there's a lot of problems with them. And they misread license plates, sometimes to a car owner's detriment. And so, what do you do?

Well, you, you know, got this one guy in Toledo, Ohio, like I said, he was mauled by a police dog after a flock camera misread. The seven on his license plate is a two. And because of his injuries he lost his job, he was evicted from his home. He settled a lawsuit against the city and the police officer for $35,000.

That's it, $35,000. Lost his job, lost his home. He got $35,000 from the taxpayers of Toledo. And in a way, I kind of get it. Like at first, I said, no, it should be flock, and it should be flock.

But The politicians are the ones who decided to put these in. The politicians are the ones who signed these contracts. But you know what? The politicians are immune from any kind of consequences for their bad actions. Taxpayers have to pay the price literally when our politicians make poor decisions and they wind up getting sued.

The politicians sit back and go, oh well, so bad. Our fault.

Sorry. And We pay the price.

So we have to hold them accountable. That's awesome. But um It's very hard to hold them accountable. How you know you vote 'em out at the ballot box. Uh It's kinda hard.

Let's go to Tony in Montreal. Tony, welcome. You're on the Brian Kilmey Show. Hi. Hi, how are you?

Good, thank you again. Mary, thank you for taking my call. You're already a fan when you called New Jersey the socialist state of New Jersey. I kind of chuckled when I heard that. What a governor.

So out of touch with New Jersey. What a great state. I love that state. I used to drive through there and go through Orange and different places. They have the best Italian food in the world.

It's just amazing. Yes, well, hold on. Don't just our governor. She is a helicopter pilot, you know.

Well, she might be a helicopter father. She's probably a helicopter. She's a helicopter parent, or as far as I'm concerned. She's trying to parent the whole state. I don't want to get into that.

I just want to talk about, if you don't mind, look, I don't like her, so it's not going to. She could be a four-star general. She could stay with the military. She could stay with the military. I'd be very happy to support her.

We'll support the military and anybody that wants a traditional lifestyle.

So I'm not going to get any votes for me pushing DEI wokeism and all the rest of that nonsense. Look, look, you know. I practiced law in Canada for approximately thirty-two years and people would ask me, What do you do? I'm like, Well, I'm a constitutional Criminal attorney. I don't just say I'm a criminal attorney because I believe in the Constitution and I believe that it's a great instrument.

And your court, the Supreme Court, and also your Constitution is a guiding light, not only for your country, but many countries follow your court.

So the blunt instrument that is the way it was explained and how I heard it, if they necessarily will use Cameras but w the cameras are in the cars or out out out out out in the street. That's the part I didn't get. Wh where where are these cameras that you're talking about? Are they everywhere? It depends.

It depends on the community, whether they have them or not. For instance, my town does not have them. I live in a very, very small town, but I know our police officers do have license plate readers.

So, very quickly, because we have less than a minute.

So, license plate readers are available in Canada. I don't believe in those because they're using them for other activities and other issues. Like, when you get a license plate reader, they know the name of the person. And in Canada, they can get almost all information: whether you've been to a psychiatric hospital, whether you use guns, whether you're a gun owner, whether you have a former criminal record, whether you owe money to the government in terms of Revenue Canada, which is the taxing department.

So, they can use that for almost anything. I don't believe in that. That's a way too blunt instrument to get to criminals. And I don't think the direct link between that type of technology and stopping child predators. Child predators, everybody is against that instrument.

It should be a lot better, Barry. Tony, we got to run. I don't mean to be rude to you. Coming up, another story. About this gun horribly awry, and a text that I just got from a friend as well coming over to the Brian Kill Me Show.

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The U.S. is on track to build a surveillance state. that is on par or even surpasses what China has. And that was just a mashup of some social media users blasting the flock cameras. And just very quickly, and I'll get you your calls: 866-40-87669, or just hit me up in a tweet on X at Mary Walter Radio.

So, we talked about California, where Flock has misread license plates approximately 71% of the times they sent an alert to the police in Roseville, California. That's just one place. You have a story out of CBS News out of Colorado where a Denver metro area use Flock cameras to help crack down on major cases, including stolen vehicles, tow truck scam, a drive-by shooting. All of us would say those are great things. We want to have those crimes solved, right?

But at what cost? And a woman told her story to CBS that a Columbine Valley police sergeant came to her door and said, You know why I'm here? And he said you can't He's uh, she said that you know, there's cameras in town. Anyway, he accused her of being a porch pirate, and the person who uh used the car was the same as her car, and she kind of looked like the woman, but she says I'm significantly older than the woman in the video. But he wouldn't show her the video, so she had to find this video on social media on Next Door.

She found it, and she said it's somewhat the same silhouette, but nobody hopped into a truck. And I think she was significantly younger than almost 50.

So, because her car has multiple cameras, she was able to go back, obtain the video from her car, and prove where she went that day. And she had to build timelines and she had submit evidence and all this other stuff. And she couldn't get anybody to live. Listen to her. Finally, the Columbine Valley Police Chief acknowledged her efforts in an email saying, Nicely done, by the way.

And he informed her the summons would not be filed. But she said, I was put in the position of having to prove my innocence because they would not even show me the video. Unless we went to court, unless I received a summons and I fought it in court, they wouldn't show her that.

So, you wind up in the position of having to prove your innocence. And not everybody can afford a lawyer. Not everybody wants to pay for a lawyer on that. My friend said my brother has been fighting something like that for over a year, which came with a great big fine. He even showed them that the license plate was attached to a Mercedes and he drives a Jeep.

Same thing happens a lot of time with EasyPass. They get a picture, this is your car, and you're like, that's not my car. And they find you, and now you have to fight and prove your innocence because the camera says this is you. No, it's literally not me. And you have to go back and forth.

It happened to my husband with an Easy Pass thing. And I guess it didn't read the Easy Pass, whatever. And so, and find us, but we have it. And instead of just charging our account, he got a fine because you went through without an Easy Pass.

So it was a big deal. 866-408-7669 or tag me to post at Mary Walter Radio with no S. Also, quickly, tomorrow night is my podcast. It's live cast at 7:15 p.m. Eastern Time on Rumble, YouTube, and Getter.

Just look for Mary Walter Radio, No S. And then the audio is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and Spreaker. When I get a chance to edit it, I get Mary Walter Radio. Let's head to Jacksonville, Florida, Luann. Welcome.

You're on the Brian Killmead Show. Hello, Luann. Hi, nice to talk with you. You too. So, what do you think about these cameras?

Okay, well if nobody has seen the movie Person of Interest came out in 2011-ish, Jim Cadiesel is the star. This is how this movie starts right now and they had evil AI and good AI, which they called mother. Oh yes, mother. The AI was out to get people, to arrest people, to distinguish people. And then Jim Caviesel and his group had to go try to save these people and take down the bad AI.

This is how it started, Mary. If you haven't seen the movie or the show, it lasted for about four or five years. It's very, very good. And I this is the beginning of person of interest.

So interesting. I love a good conspiracy. If I watch this, my husband will love it. I'm making us both tinfoil hats. Listen, this is how it starts.

They have where AI, it's done for good. It's done to help this and that. Then all of a sudden, you have these major computer banks and AI banks that decide they want to do stuff for themselves. If you think that can't happen, raise your hand. We all know that it can.

Well, listen, communism and socialism starve for the greater good, right? It Okay. They're voting their way into communism, and we're going to have to shoot our way out. I'm just you know, people need to be awake as to what's going on in these politicians who voted and signed in all these cameras to infringe on our on all of our rights, they need to be held accountable for it. 100%.

I agree. Luann, thank you so much. I appreciate the passion. Damon in Austin, Texas. Damon, welcome.

You're on the Brian Killmeat Show. Hello. Hi, good morning. I'm taking the complete opposite side of all these folks. Right here in Austin, we had two cars with full of teenagers driving around shooting random people on the street.

And the flock cameras identified the cars. They were easily and quickly apprehended. And you better bet the police wanted to know how many teens were inside that car with guns. And we've had numerous several kidnappings stopped before they got started. And this isn't a parental kidnapping.

These are bad people kidnapping little girls. And they've been stopped. Immensely fast. No bolos, no cruisers driving around and looking. And then all the terrible things that I'm hearing.

I've been accused of crimes by the cops thirty years ago. not based on cameras or anything. That's just kind of a thing that happens. You know, that's what happens with police. They get bad information no matter where it came from.

So I'm totally in favor of the flock. I do think we want to make sure it doesn't get abused. But there's so much good that overwhelms the bad. I I agree, but you know what else is really you know what else is really good is if you think someone says, Hey, I saw this this girl waving her hand outside of a window in a house instead of going to a judge and having to get a warrant and everything, wouldn't it be better if they could just go right into the house and rescue them?

Well, I mean, there's an argument there both ways, and exigency really, really matters. I just don't see this as an invasion where you're in public. You're in public and there's no privacy in public. That's why your license plate's on the outside of your car and not on the inside of your car.

So it doesn't bother you that they have a s uh uh their misreading was seventy one percent in one town alone. One guy got mauled by a police dog because because they misread the license plate? The handler if that handler saw the license plate and just turned his dog loose on somebody, that's a problem with the officer. That's not a problem with that. Right, but we don't we don't know exactly what happened, but the point is, is if it weren't for the misread license plate, we he wouldn't have been attacked.

But again, this happens here again here in Austin. We've had several cases of the SWAT team getting the wrong street address and blowing the doors off someone's house. Has nothing to do with Flock. That's a police problem. Before they act, they need to verify.

And so I think their policy is not keeping up with the technology, if anything. But I'm really in favor of this because I also live in a city where they've cut the police budget by about forty percent. And we're, I think, four or five hundred officers short. We need something as a force multiplier for the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of officers that we've been stripped of. Yeah, well, yeah, Austin in and of itself is a disaster, and I think it's probably time to sell if I were you.

But that's just me. Just like the People's Socialist Republic of New Jersey, we are planning our escape. It's a pastime here for people. You get into your 50s, and all of a sudden, you're like, all right, how soon before we get out, and where are we going?

So it's an entire lifestyle here in New Jersey, and I would assume probably in Austin, Texas, as well. Thank you for the call. I do appreciate it, and I see your argument, Damon. I really do. Tim, Frank, Lee, hang on.

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Taking your calls at 866-408-7669 and also getting your comments over on X. Just tag me in a post to Mary Walter Radio. All right, let's go to St. Louis. Tim, welcome.

You're on the Brian Kill Me Show. Hi. Hi, Mary. Thank you so much for taking my call this morning. I'll keep it brief.

We have our primary here in Missouri tomorrow, and flock cameras have been a very, very big debate.

However, Missouri Republican leadership, we have a super majority in both the House, the Senate and the governorship. And they've been differing a lot from the residents and just who I've been talking to. I'm a lifelong conservative voter. They've been calling us communists. They've been calling us Marxist, jihadist, all these other things that, I mean, we just value privacy.

I mean, I know there's big concerns over that stuff. A long time ago, back in the early 2010s, we had this whole thing with red light cameras and out flock cameras, data centers. But we're just cautious. And I just, as a lifelong conservative voter, I don't appreciate people like former Speaker of the House here in Missouri Tim Jones and all these other people calling us communists for supporting privacy. I mean, that's a whole conservative team there.

These are Republicans doing this? Yes, these are Republicans calling us communists for opposing. Clock cameras, yes. Former Speaker of the House here in Missouri from the 2010s. I mean, you got Republican leadership now.

I mean, you got the Missouri Freedom Caucus coming out and calling us communists. For opposing flock cameras, it's really, really strange. It says like a little gaslighting. What do you think, right? A little bit.

Yeah, but both parties are responsible for doing gaslighting.

So, I mean, I'm not going to say, hey, it's just the Republicans, it's Democrats too. But longtime conservative voters here, they just like their privacy in Missouri. And again, they are just skeptical of what's going on here. And we don't appreciate the name-calling from party leadership in the state. It's a big turnoff.

So, especially for the primary tomorrow. But I appreciate you taking my call. We're very skeptical as Missouri voters. It's the show-me state, show us. Why are these slot cameras a good thing, but I don't think personally they are a good thing.

So I value privacy more than anything, honestly. But I appreciate you taking my call. Yeah, thanks, Tim. I appreciate it. Have a great day.

Good luck tomorrow with everything there in Missouri.

So, like, am I the only one surprised you hearing that coming out of Missouri? Like, I think of Missouri and I think of, you know, the heartland of the country and red and conservative values and traditional values, but. You want privacy? You're a communist? That's odd.

That's really odd. Uh Gregg hit me up on Accent Mary Walter Radio and says that camera must be notoriously inaccurate when it comes to determining an occupant's sex. Yeah, I wonder if the camera knows what a woman is. In Ohio, Lee in Dayton, welcome. How are you?

Hey, how you doing? Thank you very much for taking my call. Yes, I'm kind of on the other side of the fence because we never really hear statistics like the good side of these cameras. Like everything like in these conversations are the negative side of where the cameras failed, but what is the percentage of where it's been successful and it's done its job correctly. Uh and I think that if you really look at it, a majority of the time when it's done incorrectly, it's when the human gets involved is where is where it became incorrect.

So, like the gentleman that got missed uh numbered between a two and a seven. That police officer should have been able to identify that the license plate was incorrect and handled it right there.

Well, that's if that's if they got him in his car.

Well, that's true. That's true. There's always that aspect. But, you know, I've worked with. High-end automotive, like self-driving cars, and in those cases, like where these cameras can identify what they could identify between a human, a dog, or an animal.

The technology is getting there, but at the most of the time, whenever there's a failure in the technology, it's the human aspect that gets involved, where the training. I still feel like there could have been an extra step in that situation where that wouldn't have happened. And in most of these states that are going to the flock too, if you also notice, They're also going to a mute color or a black and white license plate across the board or a blue white. They're starting to introduce those back in so that to help eliminate this problem. Not every state had that straight color, but they're starting to make it available.

They're not going to make it mandatory. At one point, they might, but Yeah. Yeah, we're all gonna go back to the yeah, I used to like the really fancy license plates, but I guess it's those are harder to read, so easier to catch you. And I get it. I understand there's good and bad with this, and I understand, but if they're failing, 71% of the time, that only means that 29% of the time, they're getting it right.

That's really bad. That's really, really bad.

So that's a failing grade in school.

So, you know, I'm not a huge fan. We got to run, Lee. Thank you so much. I do appreciate you joining me here. Yeah, I I It's if you got away the good over the bad, and I get it.

Like, if it's your kid that's been abducted, you want to know, but don't we do better with the ring cameras? Everybody's got a ring camera. This is a private person, this is a private home, and the cops come by and say, Hey, we want to know the cars that drove by here. Look at your ring cameras, and they could see are they as good as flock cameras? I don't know if they're misreading license plates, probably not.

You're not going to sit there and go through all of the flock camera video. I don't know. I think it's a deal with the devil. In my humble opinion. All right, Frank in New Jersey, got the last word here on the Brian Kilmead show.

Frank, welcome. Hello, Mary. It's about time you showed up. I thought you got transferred to CNN. You know, I used to listen to you back in the day when you were the voice of Central Jersey.

That was the good old days. Yeah, I've been all over the place since then. I've been in Washington, D.C., here at Fox. I've been all over. Yeah, you remember the station you were with?

They had you I did you you took the guy's place or you followed him. He was the biggest lefty I ever heard. And his name was Jack. Yes.

And do you know that building's up for sale now? Oh, that's a shame. Yep, the building's up for sale.

So if anybody wants to buy a radio station, there's one for sale in central New Jersey. Oh, you should buy it. Yeah, what am I going to do with that? Pay taxes on it in New Jersey? Are you out of your mind?

Yeah, I'm out of my mind. But listen, when you were um out at a a church carnival with your promotion gang, you know, you gave me a T shirt that said the radio station's numbers. It it was W N whatever, you know, W uh Whatever it was. Uh-huh. And as long as I have that t-shirt, I'll always remember you.

Oh, Frank, you make me blush. Thank you so much. Thank you, sweetie. I appreciate you waiting on hold. Thank you for joining me.

That was very, very kind of you. And I do appreciate it. Thank you. All right.

Just very quickly, just some news. They did identify, just this guy who jumped from the Brooklyn Bridge. Did you see this? This guy survived somehow? Crazy person.

They've identified him Almizon Ab Name, I can't say, Abbaldayavid. He's 44. He's obviously facing several charges. He climbed the North Tower, the Brooklyn Bridge, stripped off his clothes, and leaped off the North Tower into the East River. He put some flags on top of the bridge before he jumped, including a Kazakhstan flag.

He was rushed to Bellevue somehow in stable condition. I mean, he had like a little parachute that did absolutely nothing, just boom, plunged straight down. Insane. This guy lived crazy. I don't know what makes people tick.

All right, Allison, Eric, Peter, thank you so much. Thank you, Brian, for letting me sit in the seat. And thank you for you.