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Hi, everyone.

So glad you're there. It's the Brian Kill Me Joe. It's going to be a big hour. We're going to be talking about what's happening overseas. You know, they're 12 hours ahead, 6 o'clock in the morning.

We do Fox and Friends, Eastern Time. And then, of course, we're getting a lot of the coverage because it's 6 o'clock at night in China. This hour going to be joined by Senator Dave McCormick in a matter of moments. His wife is actually there. She's with Meta.

She's an executive there, and she's been asked to make the trip to China. And President Xi was asked to join all the business leaders in a meeting there.

So that was interesting because it was meeting with some other business people in China. There was a time we were supposed to decouple, not in President Trump's terms. They're not looking to do that now. Matthew Kroenig is going to be with us too. He's vice president of Geostrategies and a fellow and senior director at Scowcroft Center for Strategy and Security, talking about what's happening not only.

With China, but with Iran. Let's get to the big three. Number three. Today, we are sending across 50 Medicaid programs. We are sending letters that will require them to show that they are effectively and aggressively prosecuting Medicaid fraud in their states.

J.D. Vance was given the assignment to crack down on fraud, and he is producing from Ohio to California, now to Maine. Our money has been wasted, and the VP is just getting started.

Now we need the money back, and those who took it criminally charged. Number two, they were going to have so many drones and missiles that no one can attack Iran because the result would be catastrophic for the region. And once they had that immunity, then they would break out towards a weapon. We knew that. The president is not going to allow that to happen under his watch.

Marco Rubio, talking about what's why the war in Iran is so necessary at the time in which we're fighting it, Iran was simmering as the terrorist state fans out with fast boats to try to clearly take over the strait. How much longer are they allowed to occupy it?

Well, I think that ends as soon as this summit ends. Number one. Achieving the great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation and making America great again can go hand in hand. The American and Chinese people share much in common. We value courage and achievement.

This region and the world is a special world with the two of us united and together. And that is President Trump, day one of a two-day summit. It's a super summit. What we have seen so far, what we heard, what they talked about behind closed doors, we have an indication, and we'll discuss it. One thing is pretty clear: they came out strong, essentially saying, and I'll paraphrase: how we handle Taiwan.

Will really dictate where the relationships is between our two countries.

Now, President Xi did not say that. That was a spokesperson for the government, which means he okayed that. Senator Dave McCormick joins us now. He's on the Foreign Relations, Energy and Banking Committee, of course, served in the military, West Point grad. Senator, welcome back.

Yeah, breaking up just a little bit as we try to straighten out that try to straighten out that signal, let me bring you to a cut from President Xi through the translator about what he talks about the U.S. and U.S. can gain from a stable relationship, cut six. China and the United States both stand to gain from cooperation and lose from confrontation. We should be partners, not rivals.

We should help each other succeed and prosper together, and find the right way for major countries to get along well with each other in the new era. And he did say this is the most important bilateral relationship in the world, which, of course, we agree with. Senator, your thoughts about what you saw today. Yeah. Good morning, Brian.

Yeah, so Yeah, it looks like we're in a bad location, Senator. Why don't we try to clear that line? Because I definitely want to hear from you. You're the perfect guest for this.

So we're talking about what Beijing was saying about Taiwan.

Now, I told you they weren't in the prepared remarks, but they were in the ground rules essentially that were given by the government. uh before this whole summit started. Here's more from President Xi. Cut six. The people of China and the United States are both great peoples.

achieving the great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation. and making America great again can go hand in hand. We can help each other succeed and advance the well being of the whole world.

So what I think was interesting is why we pulled this cut. Is President Xi used President Trump's term? He didn't just say, make America prosper. He said, make America great again. He could have used anything.

It's in his best interest to have a good relationship with us. I think on some level he does. But the question is, how does that gel with hacking into our the cyber attacks that we're having now? How does that play into the police stations that have been set inside our country? How does that play into the fact that He is doing everything to snill-stick weapons into Iran to try to rearm them while we're fighting them.

Let's bring in Senator Dave McCormick one more time. Senator, your thoughts about what you heard today. The audience just heard two separate excerpts from President Xi's speech. I'm so sorry for the problems getting connected. I think we have to start with China as an adversary.

And we are the global superpower and they're in a competition. Superpower. But that diplomacy is within that context. And so I think a couple things came away from this. I think we have aligned interests on Iran.

China is so dependent on Iran oil. And I think there's an area there for common ground. And it seemed like the president and President Xi made some good headway. And listen, what the Chinese spokesman said on Taiwan, I wouldn't make too much of that. That's what China has.

has said over and over again over decades, this sort of status quo has been in place since 19 And the the key point here in our position is we are opposed to any unilateral effort by China to overturn the status quo.

So I I think that that language that was used is consistent with You know what else, Senator, about Taiwan? I want you to hear what this, one of their spokespeople said, a colonel in the military joined special report last night. And it was asked about Taiwan and the strategic ambiguity in which we exist right now. And we have a $14 billion check, a $14 billion check from Taiwan to supply them weapons. Here's what the colonel said about our relationship and their relationship with Taiwan, Cut 21.

I don't believe he will say something like we would support your peaceful reunification, something that is further down the road, but at least he could make a step forward. And I personally would watch how Could he explain the American arms sales to the Taiwanese? I know how the military industrial complex in the United States want to sell more, but the point is at what cost? Yeah, the what the Taiwanese uh really wants to buy is actually kind of insurance. But the question is, would the United States be willing to fill in the blank check with American blood?

So, in other words, you write that jack, we could have a war. Yeah. I think of the United States position has always been that we will support Taiwan's capacity for self-defense. uh that we acknowledge China's one China policy. We acknowledge it.

but that we're opposed to any effort unilaterally change the status quo. And the kind of language you're hearing there, I think, is consistent with the past. I think President Trump is quite appropriately not changing our position related to Taiwan, but is also wants to make sure Benny Advances in the relationship of the two great superpowers in the world as much as possible.

So we're not going to agree on things, including Taiwan. We're going to maintain a policy of strategic ambiguity, but we can find common ground on Iran. We can find common ground on some of the trade issues. And that, I think, is the essence of the summit. And I think the President's handled it well.

So the whole thing is, Senator, people can say: well, you know, how can we deal with China? We have no choice. I know about their track record. You know about it as well as anyone. You're on foreign relations, you fight wars.

But I was wondering what the, and I really don't have, it's not one of those assumptive questions. What is big business supposed to do there? I thought it was to de-risk. And if we start getting involved in China with these companies, and your wife Dina Powell is there representing Meta, then we're still subjected to the stealing of IP and the thuggery in which sometimes they randomly decide to enforce some and announce some new law and make life miserable for a successful branch of a successful corporation. I thought the future would be not to having business in China, but the President, I guess, has a different view.

Well, I think for some time, myself and others have been arguing for strategic decoupling. What that means is in areas of greatest importance to our security, our economy, we don't want to be dependent on China.

So we don't want to be dependent on China in the long run on rare earth metals as an example. We don't want to be dependent on China for semiconductors. We ideally, as China is one of the biggest the second biggest economy in the world, we would like them to buy our oil and gas We'd like them to buy our soybeans, but it's a very delicate balancing act to get it right, both in terms of not being dependent on China, but also using the influence of our economy to get China to do things that matter to us. For example, shutting off the flow of fentanyl prefactors.

So that's what I think the president is trying to do: make sure we continue to have economic relationships, but make sure that those economic relationships aren't increasing our dependence and, in fact, are decreasing our dependence over time.

So, for example, it looks like there's an effort. uh to sell the H two hundred chips uh to China. I'm not excited about that. I've been involved with legislation, supported legislation that would not have permitted that, because I think that advances. maybe accelerates China's AI development.

But that's a judgment call. Having China buy oil and gas, I'm all for that. Having them live up to their soybean purchases, I'm all for that. But it's a balancing act because in the long run and even in the medium run, we want to decrease our dependence on the things that matter most.

So for people at home, it's the NVIDIA chips, and it's not the highest level of NVIDIA chips, it's the second highest.

Now, of course, if you're in business, you want to make the maximum profit. We worry about, and you worry about, I'm with you, the security aspect of it. If we're giving them their highest chips, we're saying, here, let's start equally. You're using what we're using. What NVIDIA has said is if I pull these back, they're going to eventually come up with their own chips, and we're going to have absolutely no leverage or insight or be able to trade with them at all.

It'll be more Fortress China. And in the long run, you might not be happy in the short run, but in the long run, this will prevent them from engineering their own chips. You've heard that argument. Yeah, I've heard that argument. I mean, I've tried to listen carefully to it and respectfully.

I just think that the track record has been that two things. China is going to do everything they can to build their own capability anyway. And by giving them our technology sooner, it just allows them to accelerate the path to their own dependence. I think China is just as worried about being dependent on us as we are being undependent on them.

So I don't think it's going to slow their advances on their own technology. I think, in fact, it may accelerate it. Second, I think China's track record is one of stealing our intellectual property and stealing our technology. And so that's why when we think about trade relationships or even investment here in the United States, we have to recognize that the track record has been one of intellectual property theft. And so we have to go into any trade relationship recognizing that that's a probability.

And so for those reasons, I'm a little more skeptical and I'd be a little more Tough-minded in terms of selling our advanced technology to China. I know the last thing we want to do is extend the war in Iran, but I think we have to. Today, hundreds of Iranian fastboat boats were identified zipping through the strait. They also have an underwater vessel, something similar to a submarine or drone. It's not clear.

And they already took another ship. I think it was a British ship. They're basically taunting us. I dare you to open up the strait. We'll control it.

They've already hired ministers that are going to be taking tolls. We cannot tolerate that on international water, Senator McCormick.

So my sense is they don't understand what we can actually do. We have actually more firepower there in the region. The U sense, we're going to have to go back. Yeah. Well, we're at a fork in the road here.

The military campaign of phase one has been very successful at taking out their military capability. But there's two conditions that have to be achieved before we can finish this conflict. One is we have to get the enriched uranium and ensure that there's not a path to a nuclear weapon. And the second is the strait has to be open and clearly open into the future for international traffic. We're in the leadership position.

We're in the lead in the following sense. The blockade is choking them out. It's like a wrestling match where we got them in a hold and we're squeezing out the oxygen.

So every day gets harder for them and every day we get stronger.

So I would be patient in the sense that I don't think we have to do it tomorrow. But in the end, if that economic pressure does not achieve the goal of them giving up their nuclear weapons or their path to a nuclear weapon and the enriched uranium, and opening up the straits, and we're going to have to use our military capability to finish the job. And I think that will get easier by the day because our military assets in the region are going up. Our intelligence is getting more refined, and their economic gain is growing. You know, there's reports of breadlines.

90% of their revenue comes from oil.

So their inflation is up 80%.

So make no mistake, this blockade is putting pain and pressure on them. And so I agree with you. We're going to have to use the military to chief the objectives, probably. But let's give a little more time to see how this works. I suspect we're days and weeks, certainly not months, for this to come to a resolution.

And I think we're in the driver's seat. Last question. Did if you want to be a reporter, maybe you can't. Have you talked to your wife about what it was like when President Xi walked into the meeting and anything you can relay? Yeah.

No, listen, I'm very proud of her. I've got my job, and she's got hers.

So I'll certainly get the debrief when she gets home. But I haven't had any real-time intel. Or you're not going to share it, which is fine. I understand. Senator Dave McCormick, thanks so much.

Appreciate it. Thanks, Brian. You got it. And of course, with Bridgewater, it's very international and they made big inroads. Did Ray Dalio, who founded the company where he was president in China before China really started to emerge, and he's still tight with them today.

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So we've got so much going on. It was so interesting to watch at 6 o'clock Eastern Time, 6 o'clock my time, boxing friends, and see the interaction between the two leaders, President Xi and President Trump. And I listened to President Xi, so it's impossible to read that guy's face. He's like a wall. I never see any emotion from him.

But Joe Biden talked about when he was vice chair. He was very talkative, and they traveled together. President Trump says he's a great guy. Talk to him all the time. And you just wonder If there's a chance.

That these both our countries can work together. You know, you go and compete. Who's got the best AI? That's fine. Who's got the best military?

That's fine. I got it. The biggest nuclear weapon arsenal, I understand it. But, you know, I want to sell my product in Japan. You want to sell your product in South Korea.

Let's just see how the market goes. Imagine if they actually, we're in the World Trade Organization, actually, abided by the rules. And of course, every nation spies on other nations. Even Israel spies on us. We spy on Israel.

They're allies. I know. You know, we're listening to everything Iranians say. I understand the rules of the jungle. But it would be just amazing if I just took China at the president's word, if I didn't know their track record.

And just think, they're like, okay, two superpowers, but unlike the Cold War, we're not looking to destroy each other. Unfortunately, I don't quite believe it yet, but I do believe if both sides realize they're better off individually, if we don't fight it out militarily. then it won't happen. A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kill Me Show.

My read has been. What I think has been for a while, and that is China has a plan. I mean, they clearly view themselves, they believe they will be the world's most powerful country, they'll surpass the United States, and they have a plan to do it. And they're executing on that plan, and I don't blame them. If I were the Chinese government, I'd have the same plan.

We, on the other hand, don't view it that way. And we don't want to see anything that We're not trying to constrain China, but their rise cannot come at our expense. Their rise cannot come at our fall.

So there's an area where we're just going to have a difference of opinion. And right. And the problem is, too, and I know there's a certain amount of spying that every nation does to the other nation, but with the way China does it, they ignore trade rules, it's a little egregious.

So we'll see if they're going to change any of their behaviors as they have a very cordial summit while warning us to take the right approach, whatever that is, when it comes to Taiwan. Joining us now is Matthew Kroenig. He's Vice President, Geo Strategy and Fellow and Senior Director of the Scowcroft Center for Strategy and Security. Welcome back, Matt. Thanks, it's great to be back.

So, Matt, from what you saw today, both leaders spoke, and we got some readouts about what they met about. And it is 8:30 their time. We've got another day of. Uh Another day to talk, a little bit more work to do. What do you think so far?

Well, I think it's important that the United States and China have this relationship. They are the two most consequential countries in the world. There is the danger that we could go to war over Taiwan. And so having dialogue and some constructive Relations is a good thing, but as you point out, as Secretary Rubio pointed out, there are also some pretty serious Areas of difference over really the future of global order and who's going to lead the international system. And so I think that some of those points of difference are also going to be discussed behind closed doors in these meetings.

So who comes in stronger? I think the United States is in the stronger position. It's still the number one economy on Earth, the only global power projecting military on Earth. And the United States still has enormous soft power. If you ask our democratic allies in Europe and Asia, would they rather live in a U.S.-led order or a Chinese-led order?

There's really no question. But China is capable, but I think the United States is in a stronger position.

So I think it's interesting right now. The one thing that we want is to make sure we get a renewal on those rare magnets that China had that they held back. And they say, well, we come to an agreement.

Well, you lower the tariffs, and I'll guarantee you we'll deliver them for a year. But we have not heard anything about that. Doesn't mean they haven't agreed to that, but I would make that a bigger deal if they had. Uh we know about they're going to buy more We know they're going to buy more soybeans. Know they said they're going to be open to buying our oil and gas, which would be great for all parties.

So, are you surprised we haven't heard more about this, about the rare earth?

Well, you're right that that's a critical issue, and China really has a chokehold on these rare earths now that are critical for many technologies and needed in the United States. You know, the United States does have a long-term plan to develop a secure supply chain, so we're not so dependent on China, but as of right now, we still are dependent, and so that is going to be a top priority for Trump and his team. And I think you're right, if there had been a breakthrough there, we would have heard about it.

So let's hope that's a topic for progress in tomorrow's meeting.

So Sean Hannity has a meeting, has an interview with the president. He did it, at which time the president of China said: whatever you need on Iran, I'll help you. Whatever you need, let me know. I thought that was an interesting exchange because we know that they could open up the straight with a phone call. Yeah, it's interesting, and there is some overlap in interest here.

You know, China has an interest in peace and stability in the Middle East because they're much more dependent than we are on energy flows coming out of that region. You know, China and Iran have had something of a strategic partnership, including there's evidence that China may have been helping provide data that the Iranians are using to target U.S. forces. And Russia, that's right. But at the end of the day, China doesn't want to get into a confrontation with the United States over this.

And so the readout of this first day suggests that China agrees with the United States that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon and also agrees with the United States that we can't let Iran control the Strait of Hormuz, that we need to get it back open to international shipping.

So, I want you to hear what Marco Rubio said about NATO, because you have such a knowledge of the area and you know about our relationship with our allies, which is very strained right now. Cut 29. When you have NATO partners denying you the use of those bases, when the primary reason why NATO is good for America is now being denied to us by Spain, as an example, then what's the purpose of the alliance? It starts becoming their allies when they want to be tiger. And look, to be fair, there are countries in NATO that were very helpful to us by just singling one out, Portugal.

They said yes before we even asked, told them what the question was. Poland? Poland.

So there are countries that Romania, Bulgaria, others like Spain have been atrocious, just horrifying.

So I do think there's some very legitimate questions to ask about NATO, and that is: what is the purpose of being an alliance whose benefit to us? Is these basing rights if in a time of conflict like the one we've had with Iran, they can deny us the use of those bases.

So why are we there for only to protect them, but not to further our national interests? This is a very legitimate question that we need to address. What do you think about that, Matt? You saw that there's many ways NATO is spending more than they ever had on defense. We got two fantastic countries now in.

Vladimir Putin's now reeling. Without Hungary stopping us, we're able to give loans to Ukraine. The EU was any where NATO was anyway, so there's no and the EU, there's no negative vote there. Where is where what do you think of NATO these days? Yes, well, I agree with Secretary Rubio that those are legitimate questions to raise, and I'll come back to that.

But overall, I think NATO still is In the U.S. interest. And just put it in historical context, the United States fought two world wars. over conflict in Europe. And so having a Europe that's stable and peaceful, that's going to prevent a World War three is in the U.S.

interest. And I think NATO has done that by deterring Putin. You're also right that NATO allies are spending more thanks to President Trump. All allies have agreed to spend 5% of their GDP on defense, really back to Cold War levels, which is going to make the alliance stronger. But then back to Rubio's point, I'm also puzzled that allies like Spain are not allowing us to use their bases for the war in Iran.

It's not like we're asking them to fight and die alongside American soldiers. We're just asking them to use their bases. And so many of the allies were willing to let us use their bases, but yes, some of these who've denied, I think in part for their own domestic political reasons, but still it is puzzling.

So I know that I guess Russia put like 1500 drones into the sky yesterday, and that's devastating. But for the most part, there's a calamity happening in Russia, by all accounts. They don't have enough troops. They lost 35,000 last month. They're going into Africa, tricking them into the military.

Their draft, people are running from the draft, they have an intellectual brain drain, and now Ukraine is making progress on the battlefield. What do you hear about this? And now Ukraine says, well, we're in no rush to talk these days. And Vladimir Putin says, I recommend Gerhard Schroeder as somebody that. Uh somebody that could Arbitrate some type of peace agreement.

And then he went on to say, I don't see this war lasting too much longer. What do you hear what's happening on the ground there? Yeah, it's really ironic that Putin went to war to try to recreate the Russian Empire, to make Russia great again, and he's probably done more than any Russian leader to destroy the country.

So economically they're in bad shape. Militarily, they're in bad shape. You know, the challenge, though, is this is such a high priority for Putin, and so he's been willing to bear these costs up to this point. But and we see the battlefield lines are really not moving very much at all.

So I think my hope would be that as the fighting, the lines stabilize, neither side is able to make really significant gains, that that could create the conditions for a serious negotiation. And as you and the listeners will recall, this was one of Trump's highest priorities on the campaign trail and in his first few months in office trying to negotiate. A piece. And so with Russia weakening, with Ukraine taking territory, we may finally be getting to the place where serious negotiations can take place.

So talk to Matthew Kroenig. He's Vice President of Geostrategies and fellow at the Senior Director at Scowcroft Center for Strategy and Security. He's worked for multiple administrations of both parties. But, Matt, I have a sooner or later we got to make a decision on Iran. And if we walk out of the summit with nothing but lip service when it comes to China doing something, I think it's inevitable that we're going to have to go back to the military option.

Do you see any other way? Yeah, I think I agree with you. And looking back at the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, it seems like the real big mistake we made is that we were kind of half in, half out. the whole time. And I'm afraid we may be in a similar situation with Iran right now.

The blockade is in place, but we've stopped the bombing. And so I do think that President Trump is going to have to make a choice. Is he in or is he out? And I think he's going to be in. I think we probably will see a resumption of the U.S.

bombing against Iranian military targets. Maybe the Israelis will again start striking the Iranian leadership. But the Iranians aren't negotiating seriously right now, and so I think we may need to take some steps to help clarify minds in Tehran. It's an interesting time, but I feel like everything's coming to a head. I feel like all the hot spots are coming to a head for the longest time.

What are we doing with Iran? It's hard to remember, but you know, it wasn't too long ago where Europe saw the danger of Iran and they put in place snapback sanctions. Remember, Europe was on board. They knew the problem. They were upset that we struck without telling them.

But after that, They should have gotten over it. We got to feel a minesweeper coming in from Britain, but for the most part, they're almost all laying out. I'm just shocked by it. You're absolutely right. And I talk to European officials almost daily in my work at the Atlantic Council.

And what they say is, look, we agree that Iran is a threat. We agree that diplomacy wasn't working and we were out of time. But you're absolutely right. They say we're just disappointed that we weren't brought into the planning. This caught us by surprise just as it caught the Iranians by surprise.

They say they're still not sure what the plan is. And so I think that the Trump administration probably could help that with some more diplomacy. But at the end of the day, they are NATO allies, and I think they should get on board with supporting the United States because you're right, everything is coming to a head. This is an important moment. Yeah, it's really going to be an important spring/slash summer.

Matthew, thanks so much. Thanks for having me. You got it, 1-866-408-7669. Jam the phones or write me at BrianKillmead.com. Just click on comments and I'll get to you.

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A radio show like no other. It's Brian Killmead. Donald Trump could sell out Taiwan. whose peoples want to continue living in freedom instead of under the jackfruit of the Chinese Communist Party. Any threat Trump allows Xi J Xi Jinping to make against the Taiwanese.

is a threat to the global democracy. It's also a threat to the global economy given how many semiconductor shifts are made in Taiwan. Right, but the president is not giving up Taiwan. As Mark Thiessen told us this morning, and I 100% agree, the President does not want to be the President that gave up Taiwan, that it would arguably be more devastating than the way Joe Biden left Afghanistan. He's not going to do it.

And the President doesn't feel that President Xi would do it with him in office. That's how he feels. He could miscalculate, but I doubt that he's miscalculating on that because President Xi has needs. Number one, if he starts a war like this, it's not going to help with his unemployment problem. If he starts a war like this, it's not going to help with the fact that His economy has been struggling, and his real estate has collapsed.

In fact, the people of China don't spend because they have no social safety net. They used to depend on their homes like we do. You know, you bill, you put money into your homes, you take out a mortgage, you sell that house, you're able to retire. That whole formula has died because the real estate market was overvalued and it has not come back yet.

So that's interesting. They grew at something like 2%. They were growing at 15%, if we'd have believed their numbers.

So I'm not sure they're going to do that. I I just meant what I meant what what I just said with Matt.

So many of the problems in the world seem to be coming to a head right at the same time. Status quo can't continue. In Ukraine. Why do I believe that? Because the Russians are beginning to lose and they're going to look to stop it.

And they don't. They have a bunch of people knowing that he lied about the reason for the war. There was no Nazis in Ukraine. He's now lying about the fact that they're winning because they are not winning. I don't even know if the only people making money, I think, outside weapons manufacturers in Russia are people who make caskets because he is sending tens of thousands to their graves every single month.

much more than what he's doing to Ukraine, who, by the way, Russia is not going after soldiers, they're going after civilians. And they seem to have gotten a pass on that. But President Trump was pretty strong. He invited. President Xi, this has gone so well.

The President had an invitation for President Xi. He said it at the dinner a couple of hours ago. Cut three. Tonight it is my honor to extend an invitation to you and Madam Peng to visit us at the White House. This September 24th, And we look forward to it and I'd now like to raise a glass and propose a toast to the rich and enduring ties between the American and Chinese people.

It's a very special relationship. And I want to thank you again. This has been an amazing period of time. Thank you, President Xi. And he invited him.

September 24th. I want you to come over.

So that's pretty cool. And we will not have the ballroom then, but that is one of the reasons why we need a ballroom. Did you see the size of that room today? Pretty impressive. Also noted.

You know who didn't make the trip? Howard Luttnick. How could you not bring your commerce secretary when you're talking about doing business deals and trade deals? That's the message. He's got to be done.

And I think it was his idea to have Liberation Day. That ended up being wrong. It did not stand up in court. Scott Besson was not for it.

So one of the what I understand is, well, it looked like you weren't right, Howard, on that. And I also bring think the whole Epstein thing when he threw the president under the bus. President never really got over that. He doesn't do many interviews anymore. We'll see.

So that I know the President just had to dismiss Marty McCary, who's his FDA chief, a great guy. I don't think he wanted the green light vaping, and I think the president did. I'm for the no vaping situation. I'm for the I don't want kids vaping. I don't want them smoking.

And if you put them in flavors, they're going to do both.

So he's gone. I know the president's making some changes. I think at the midterms, you got two first-round draft picks that are going to be available. Governor Ron DeSantis and Governor Glenn Yonkin. They're gonna fit some way, somehow in this.

So, you know, earlier when I'm talking politics. I always talk about what, well, you know, the left is coming after the right, but by the left is for the most part talking about socialism. And I got this email from Mike Keegan, and he says, Brian, you closed Monday show by saying you don't get the support for socialism/slash communism. You recently asked Miranda Devine, God Sad, Michael Goodman, the same thing. He goes, It's the most important question you can ask: soft on crime, open borders, tyrannical societies, odd social behavior, income redistribution.

Why is it popular? Anti-Zionism, anti-Semitism. And the answer to, according to Mike, is: I don't know why the Democrats support releasing criminals into society. He said, that is the biggest question. Um with needs to be answered.

And by the way, Mayorkis came out, who was head of the Border Patrol. Majorcas came out and said, maybe we could have been a little tougher on the border, and Joe Biden could have done his executive orders early in his administration.

So all those things. that I am befuddled that people that the Democrats are running on. I still don't get it. I they seem to run on the stupidest things. And then you find out about these judges letting people out of prison.

And then you see in Illinois a Democrat-run state and a Democrat-run Chicago, Democrat-run city. You had 284 people. On probation, just cut off their ankle monitors and just left. left the probation system. and no one's even looking for them.

How do you do that in Runa City? From high atop. Fox News headquarters in New York City. Always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmead.

Hi everyone, welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kilmey Show. It's going to be an exciting hour. We're going to get healthier with Jake Steinfeld, Body by Jake. He, you know, he was doing the fitness test before there was a fitness test. They brought it back.

He's got a brand new wellness app for iHeart.

So he's going to be with us. Surely he's the chairman of the National Foundation for Governor's Fitness. Put up Jim's in all 50 states, so pretty amazing. Standing by is Senator John Eusted of Ohio. And before we get to him, we got a lot of moving parts today.

We're going to be following all the storylines, including the market that is up substantially just shy of 50,000 because of Mike Top Story. Number three. Today, we are sending across 50 Medicaid programs, we are sending letters that will require them to show that they are effectively and aggressively prosecuting Medicaid fraud in their states. J.D. Vance doing an awesome job.

He was given the assignment to crack down on fraud, and he has been producing big time. Ohio, California, and now off to Maine.

So many of our dollars are being wasted on fraudulent programs and stopping the needy from getting what they deserve. This has got to be stopped. The money's got to be brought back, and people got to be put in jail. Good job, JD. Number two.

They were going to have so many drones and missiles that no one can attack Iran because the result would be catastrophic for the region. And once they had that immunity, then they would break out towards a weapon. We knew that. The president is not going to allow that to happen under his watch. Simple as that, that's Marco Rubio.

Iran was simmering on the, Iran is simmering as the terrorist state fans out across the strait and with their fast boats, 200 plus, trying to dominate, take tolls, and they already took a British ship. Number one. Achieving the great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation. and making America great again. Can go hand in hand.

The American and Chinese people share much in common. We value courage and achievement. This region and the world is a special world with the two of us united and together. And also, President Xi said, it's the most important bilateral relationship in the world. I don't argue.

Day one, two-day super summit in China. And what we have seen so far has gone pretty well. But what really happened behind closed doors, what they hope happens, let's bring that question to Senator John Usted. Senator, from what you saw, I don't know how early you were up, but we carried the remarks of both men who have already met for two plus hours and will meet again. Your thoughts about how it's going so far?

I think it's going very well. I think the President is trying to build a warm personal relationship with President Xi and also put the issues on the table that matter to the American people. Look, we just want free trade. We believe in American competition. We believe that America can out-compete anyone in the world if we just have a fair playing field.

You talk to American businesses, that's what they'll tell you. I think that the President is pushing that agenda forward effectively. But now, when it comes to cars, explain why they cannot be allowed to sell the BYD or any other cars in America.

Well, they can't because it's a surveillance tool. I mean, a car that's connected to our transportation grid can gather all kinds of information on the American public. We don't. It's a safety concern. Plus, they're also undermining every car industry.

They want to flood the zone with cheap cars, drive automakers out of business, and then you're left with only one option, which is a Chinese-made car.

So, for all of those reasons, we can't have Chinese automobiles in America. I mean, the whole federal government is subsidizing the whole thing, right? It is because, look, have we learned our lesson with the steel industry, with the aluminum industry, with so many other industries where the furniture industry, in many cases, we see Chinese subsidized systems do not have the same workforce or environmental standards that we have, and then they undermine American businesses and drive them out of business. Have that with the auto industry. Europe is going to rue the day that they allowed China to enter their auto markets.

So I know that we brought all these great business leaders over, and then the president invited President Xi to meet with the Chinese business leaders and the American business leaders. And here's what President Trump had to say about that, because he said that it's important to do deals, cut four. And I just want to say, on behalf of all of the great delegation that we have, we have the greatest businessmen, the biggest, and I guess the best in the world. We have amazing people, and they're all with me. Every single one of them, we ask the top.

Thirty in the world, every single one of them said yes. And I didn't want the second or the third in the company. I wanted only the top. And they're here today to pay respects to you and to China. And they look forward to trade and doing business and It's going to be totally reciprocal on our behalf.

So I really look very much forward to our discussion. It's a big discussion.

So, what do you think should happen with all these JPMorgan, Meta, and all these other companies, Boeing? What do you hope happens? What do you worry could happen?

Well, look, I represent Ohio, so what I hope happens is that we get a fair trade deal out of it. Look, we're at a disadvantage in the sense that China has things like the precursors for our pharmaceuticals, rare earth materials that we can't make batteries or bombs without in many cases. But they lack the sophisticated technology that many of our companies have. China. What I want to see come out of is just a fair trade deal, where they're not subsidizing their industries, that they're not dumping products in American markets, and they're opening up their markets to American products, particularly agriculture.

And also that when Americans make investments in China, those investments are protected, that they don't have to turn over their technology to the government or Chinese businesses. We want a fair deal. Senator, I love with J.D. Vance of Ohio, as you know. He was senator there.

You took his place. I love what he's doing on fraud. Remember, Kamala Harris was given an assignment, fix the border. She denied it. She said, Oh, it's an impossible assignment.

It was given to me to make me look bad. And she did a terrible job. It was the worst border ever. J.D. Vance, about a month ago, has said, head up a fraud investigation.

And now he's pushing California, he's pushing Maine. And he went to your state of Ohio and he saw it. Blue states, red states. Find out what the problem is. Cut 35.

On the Ohio issue in particular, look, this happens everywhere. We're a big country, hundreds of billions of dollars goes out the door every single month from the federal government, and inevitably you're going to have people who try to take advantage of it. What bothers me is not that you have a few fraudsters out there, it's that the government hasn't taken seriously pushing it back. You're always going to have bad people. You're always going to have a few bad apples try to take advantage of the system.

What's so unique about this country until recently is that we didn't take that seriously. We didn't try to push back against the fraud, and that's what's changed. When I talk about cooperating with these various states, So Ohio, he points out They say an auditor reported a roughly 15.6% eligibility error when it comes to Medicaid, also flagging concentrated home health spending in Franklin County, that Avon Fan's home state is a mess. He says nearly 16%. They said that the red state, blue state doesn't matter.

He went on to say that now the governor saw this, and now he's trying to get the money back, and he's trying to put in reforms. But in the blue states, they just try to push back. Yeah, look, uh Yeah. This is what happens. Every time the federal government makes it easier for people to have access to the social services that they need, they also make it easier for fraudsters to do these things.

In many cases, the states don't have an incentive to crack down on the fraud because it's the federal government's money. It's not the state's money that they're administering. And so you just, so you have to want to do it. When this was identified by our state auditor in Ohio, and then JD came in and really put a highlight on this, Governor DeWine responded and said, Yes, okay, we've discovered this. Let's go find it.

Let's get the mini, let's shut it down. What do they do in Minneapolis and Minnesota? What do they do in California? They push back. They point fingers.

They blame. They don't want to be a partner in solving the problem. That's why I'm actually introducing legislation today, along with Tommy Tubberville, to crack down on student loan fraud. We've seen bots and other things try to apply for student loans. Put them in accounts, ship them overseas, and then we never see the money again.

So, we got a fraud problem that technology has enabled in many cases that we have to fight back. But you got to be intentional about it. You got to have people that want to stop the fraud. You know, free nurseries that don't exist, there's no kids in them, and there's hospice care, which has been abused. There's hospice care in every block in California.

So, there's a six-month moratorium on new health care initiatives, money, federal money coming into Ohio, and they're doing some de-risking. You guys are doing mandatory GPS tracking for electronic visit verification on systems and new electronic visit verification requirements for live-in caregivers to make sure they're showing up. And that's what's going to, that's what's going to be happening. Also, for you, there's police week.

So, this has been an important week that I couldn't believe it. Our report, it was actually written up. Our reporter said on Monday, on was it Monday night, Tuesday night, when they honored those who lost their lives that year while on the job. Yeah. that there were no democratic lawmakers on the stage.

Has this been is this no longer a bipartisan support issue? I don't understand why the Democrats have such animosity for the rule of law and the people who risk their lives to protect us every single day. In Ohio last year, we lost four officers in the course of the line of duty, you know, responding to domestic violence calls, getting one officer just got run down by a car. Another officer. Who was eating lunch was just shot by a sniper who hated police.

These people have very dangerous jobs. They protect us. And the fact that Democrats just don't want to back the blue, that they want to defund the police, just like what they're doing at the border, they don't want border patrol. They don't want to deport criminals. I don't know why they've aligned themselves on the side of criminals and against law enforcement so often.

It just doesn't make any sense to me. Senator, where do you stand on funding the rest of DHS? I know you're going to do a supplemental. a reconciliation. It's got to be done really by June first if the President gets his wish.

But the question is, do you add things into it like the ballroom? Do you add things into it from the America First Act? I think we're having some lively discussions about those things right now. We want to protect the border. We want to protect the people of America.

And we certainly want to protect this President and any future President. And so we need to make sure that the security That the security at the White House is sound, but we also want to make sure that the American public. Supports those expenditures. Anything what about suspending the national gas tax while we're in the middle of this war? Oh, look, we need to bring the conclusion to this war in terms of the straight-of-war moves.

Iran is keeping it closed. We need to get it opened up. If we do that, it will give dramatic relief to the inflationary pressures that high gas prices cause. And so we need to get that done as quickly as possible. And I intend to meet with some officials from the administration when they get back from Beijing to figure out what's next there because this has to get opened up.

And if reducing the gas tax is one of the options we consider, I think that we probably should. I don't know what it's going to do because I know you've got the War Powers Act, and we're going to debate the constitutionality of that. And can you pause it when we're in a pause like now? Because I think the President's got to make a decision by the time he gets back because the status quo doesn't work and we can't really get anything done.

So we might have to escalate in order to de-escalate. Senator, I'd love to talk to you about your reelection, but I can't because you're in your Senate office. But your thoughts on the war? Look, On the war, we didn't bring it to a brief and successful conclusion. The fact of the matter is that a nuclear-armed Iran will be a greater threat than they are right now.

And so we cannot let them have access to a nuclear weapon. Everybody says that. President Trump's the only one person that's ever actually tried to do something about it. But I hope that the rest of the world joins us. It's in Beijing's interest.

It's in China's interest. It's in Europe's interest that Iran not have control over the Strait of Hormuz. They should join us in denouncing what they're doing right now, open it back up, and then, frankly, get the nuclear material out. Stop the process of Iran getting access to a nuclear weapon and then let them rejoin the global economy so that they can actually improve the quality of life for the people in their nation. There can be a good ending for everyone here if they're just reasonable about it.

It would be, I think that the belligerent way in which they're approaching this. These talks and this ceasefire makes me think that we need for the Israeli Elimination Squad to get back into action. Senator, thanks so much. Thank you. All right.

We're going to be back in a moment. 1-866-408-7669. It's Brian Kilmade. Yeah. The more you listen, the more you'll know.

It's Brian Kilmeade. As allies in World War II, President Franklin Roosevelt's mentions of the brave people of China, that's what they were, through loud cheers in his speeches in the United States. Everybody loved what he had to say, just as many Chinese now love basketball and blue jeans. Chinese restaurants in America today outnumber the five largest fast food chains in the United States, all combined. That's a pretty big statement.

So, the President of the United States chose on his address in the toasts. And President Xi talked about the relationship, how important it is, how we should be treating each other with respect and how we can make a very dangerous world a better place. And the President decides to talk about Retrench and talk about seventeen eighty four when we first encountered China, where we had a I forgot his first name. I think it was Stephen Shaw. Goes to the shores of China.

They called it the new people, the new country, and they celebrated 250 and talked about, as you just heard, Teddy Roosevelt and what he did, and how the Chinese gifted us something on George Washington for the Washington Monument.

So our countries were getting along. Until there was this giant fracture in 1949 due to Mousie Tongue and the Communist Party taking over and beating Shang Kai-shek. Shiang Kai-shek gets forced into the island of Formosa. It becomes Taiwan. And since that time, we only recognized the Democratic government of Taiwan until the 70s when Lincoln, when Nixon went over there.

And then since that time, we gradually unfroze relations. But as the rise of China happened, we pushed back because we saw the way they were dealing with their trade practices. We tried to deal them into the world order by putting them in the WTO. That ends up being a huge mistake under Bill Clinton. Try to control them with various governments, whether it was Bush or Obama.

And now with Trump, It bec it's clear that I think in many ways China's a declining power. I mean, in terms of their population, they are decreasing rapidly. They had that single child policy for 50 years. Turns out having only one kid and wanting males leaves you with very little women, so very little procreation. Therefore, they're withering.

And there's so many jobs, so much to do, and so many, so few people to fill those jobs.

However, if you're a college graduate, you're not getting opportunities, and their unemployment is huge, and they got these ghost cities. They had people build cities in the assumption that the farmers were gonna come in and become middle-class families, and they never came.

So these cities are built. And there's just no one in them. It's like the Twilight Zone.

So they have issues. They need to make products and they need to sell their products because. Chinese don't buy their own stuff because not many of them have discretionary spending.

So Trump went back in order to build the bond. For President Xi, he talked about how far what could happen between us both. Cut six. China and the United States both stand to gain from cooperation and lose from confrontation. We should be partners, not rivals.

We should help each other succeed and prosper together, and find the right way for major countries to get along well with each other in the new era. That's a interesting catchphrase.

However, It doesn't talk about Taiwan. And the statement that they came out about Taiwan, that America has to be right about Taiwan for our relations to move forward and essentially threatening war. If there is You can't take the island. Trump's not going to let you take the island.

Now they're going to pressure Trump not to. you know, not to cash the $14 billion check. And give. Taiwan the weapons they paid for. We're gonna give them the weapons.

And the president the government has already decided to give Taiwan the weapons.

So the president should not give in to that. And we don't really need their help in Iran. It would be great if they weren't sending him weapons, which basically they have been, but they could make a phone call and open up the strait. Let's see if they will. Or do.

If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead.

So today I sign a proclamation recognizing national youth sports and fitness. And I'll also sign the very first copy of the new Revitalized Presidential Fitness Test Award. A certificate in recognition of achievement of the gold standard of physical fitness.

So that is the President of the United States bringing back, as promised, the physical fitness test. And he harkened back to JFK. And guess who's marshaling the whole thing? RFK Jr.

So now in all these schools, they're going to be mandated to be tested and have a standard, and you'll see where you rank. Is there a downside to this? Is this a good thing? Remember, we have all these cuts from JFK talking about as a country, we got to get fit, we got to be strong, we got to be challenged. And in the 60s, they thought we were not in shape.

I think we're going to find out what kind of shape we're in soon. Jake Steinfeld with us now, great friend of the show. You know, Body by Jake is his company, chairman of the National Foundation for Governor's Fitness. He's got a huge announcement, which he'll do shortly. But, Jake, I wonder what you thought about that, that announcement.

Yeah, first of all, Brad, always great to be with you. And we're streaming now, so just know that. Fond of being pro. Oh, okay. Look at that.

See? You can see yourself there. Hey, look at that. I know it's not like Charlemagne. He's got a corporation on it.

Well, he does. I just came from Charlemagne to God, but I know I should have put makeup on this morning. Hey, everybody. How are you doing? Hope everyone's great at home.

So listen, I think it's awesome. You know, we are only as strong as our next generation. You know, we talk about military might and that's super important. But this next generation of kids coming up, look, they've got next. They've got next, and we need to leave this place better.

I love the president that the fact that he has made this commitment. I'd love to understand what the commitment really is because I've been living this now for a lot of years. You know, I served with Arnold in California. As chair of the fitness council in California and with Jerry Brown, and these last 14 years putting fitness centers in elementary and middle schools around this great country of ours. All 50 states.

All 50 states. So it was targeted, you say it was a contest. It was a contest because, you know, I saw what was going on in our country and I saw this sort of devolving of exercise of being. Look, we had PE almost every day growing up, man. Yeah.

You know, and now it becomes an elective in a lot of schools. And when I started as chair of the fitness council in California, there were 40 states that had fitness councils of the 50, and then there was none.

So it's really interesting, and I'd love to get a little more understanding of how. The implementation is going to happen. Is that if you're just going to test kids one day, it's not going to help except make kids feel bad, or other ones would, you know, if you're. You know, we've talked about this, and this is really, I got to tell you the truth. This is what.

That moment. Made me who I am today.

So I took the JFK President's Counsel. Fitness test, right? The president's counsel test. And you had to run the. I ran the 50-yard dash, I tell people, in three days.

You know, and I couldn't climb a rope. You were heavy. I was an overweight kid. I had a bad stutter. The standing broad jump, all of those movements were impossible.

There were a couple of kids, and I remember the kid's name, Mitchell Burns, was a guy who was the best athlete in the school, got the Presidential Fitness Award, got the patch on his gym shirt, and I never got a patch. And I rem it stuck with me, man. And I remember when I became chair of the Fitness Council with Arnold Schwarzenegger. And he asked me, hey, it was a great honor. And I asked him, what do you want to see us do here?

He says, I want to see all California kids in shape. And I said, oh, okay, great. I want you to fix all the freeways. But what if we do this? What if we create something that was simple enough that we can get all kids engaged?

What are you talking about? Let's call it the Governor's Fitness Challenge, where we get kids active 30 to 60 minutes every other day just for a month. And we do it in the schools.

So the schools upload their rosters. Right. And they upload their rosters.

Now, by the way, any kind of movement that you do, hula hooping, taking a walk, in between watching TV when the commercials come on with you and the family, doing some push-ups, doing something to get your body moving. And if you did that, what we did is we got a number of sponsors. Folks like General Mills jumped in and I created a certificate. Of completion that was signed by Arnold and myself, and you got a patch. And I remember in 2006, we had 10,000 California Kids Take the Fitness Challenge.

In 2011, at 1,400,000 California Kids Take the Fitness Challenge.

Now, What I saw happening were kids were getting engaged. And I thought, what needs to happen next? I said, well, if you give the schools the tools. Things really change. And for me, look.

I'm not the Bill Gates. I'm not a computer guy. I'm the fitness guy.

So what I want to do is I want to put a fitness center in as many Elementary and middle schools. And a lot of people say, How come elementary and middle schools, Jake?

So because kids are still in that gumbyish stage, they're still molding and growing and all this stuff. And if they learn at an early age about exercise, oh man, it does become a part of their life, it becomes them. And if you put a fitness center, and I've seen this now close to 800 times, if you put a fitness center in an elementary or middle school, the fitness center becomes the hub of the community. And I'm not talking about a couple of jump ropes. We put a brand new $100,000 Don't Quit Fitness Center in.

And I had sponsors like Nike, Coca-Cola, people like that jumped on board. And they were so excited to be able to be part of something. No branding, by the way. There was never branding except it said don't quit in the fitness center. But here's what happened.

Not only did the kids work out, but the teachers were working out. And then I said, I want you to open the fitness center. After school evenings and on weekends.

So, moms and dads, grandmas, grandpas, and aunts and uncles can exercise too.

So, the kids became the catalyst. To get the family going. And for us, what we need to see is I said. This next generation needs to be strong, and they're not right now.

So I love the idea that the president understands this, sees this. I love the fact that he wants to do this. I'm just challenged on how do you execute it, how do you activate it and really make a difference? You need a program. I was going to say, I don't know the president, you do.

He seems to be a guy who likes to get stuff done and see the end result. I love the idea. I don't know how we see the end result until you see an end result. How do you feel about this new trend in wellness? They say it.

Maxing out how you look. And then the new peptides. Yeah, but reading about this stuff with, especially with guys, you know, with young guys, right? Yeah, with look maxing this. Look maxing.

Look, social media is a challenging thing, man. I'm so thankful we didn't have it when we were growing up, man. I just couldn't imagine being 13 years old again or 14 years old and looking at another guy who's ripped and you're not. And how do you get there? I think, like anything.

You need to find authentic, and you need to be able, you can't buy trust, and you can't buy authentic. There's a lot of people who are desperate for hope today, Brian. You know, and as you know, where a lot of people who are desperate for hope will walk across a A desert to find water because someone says to go do that. And that's what concerns and challenges me.

So, kind of back to this whole president's challenge. I think it's awesome, but activation needs to be critical to make this thing work. And by the way, for example, if there's a test. There's got to be: here's the program for the gym teachers to get the kids ready for the test. Yeah.

So they'll say you guys are going to have to do push-ups. You're going to have to sibs. You're going to have to do planks, whatever it is.

So we need to practice. We need to get ready for this. As opposed to the one day, that's it. That's it. But make it a contest.

You were on your way to go there. You make it a contest.

So, whether it's within the school or within the school district, so what you do is you engage with the superintendents. The principals and the PE teachers, right? And that's the chain of command.

So you got the soups. You got the principals, and you have your PD teachers. I'd say I am thinking, I know a few people that became gym teachers recently. There's pressure on them now because they know it's sometimes the only time they get the kids to work out.

So there is, they are doing things. And now, the one thing that they're not doing in New York that I can see, but they're doing in other states, they're getting rid of. Of recess, which is crazy. That's the one time to run around. That's the one time to run.

I mean, they just let them run around. And instead, they keep them in school and then they give them two hours of homework. But yet, our grades among these kids have never been worse. And now they're taking away the phones and they say they notice the kids are more attentive, but it has not shown yet in the final grades. I just say this, and I don't want to jump on you because, you know, we're right in the mental, you know, right here in the middle of mental health month, right?

Or mental health awareness. And, you know, it was interesting. When we were growing up, we never talked about mental health, right? No one ever mentioned mental health. And the last five years, of me visiting these elementary and middle schools all around the country, whether it be a reservation school, an inner city school, an urban school, out in the country, whether it's North Dakota, South Dakota.

These kids are all so stressed out And the one thing, and I know a lot of people know, and you know too, the most underutilized antidepressant. Is exercise. If you're mad, if you're sad, if you're angry, you're stressed out, just move your body. And it's not hard. I know, but you need a program.

Because, for example, if you're a good soccer player, if you're a good football player, track, okay. You know what you're doing after school. No, you know, I want to get better in the fourth round. My coach is going to train me. But if you're an average athlete or your family's just not into sports, there really is no structure.

And you don't really know where to start. Even though you do the phone, and that's a big thing. On Instagram, you can do it. I mean, you can go find an exercise program for 14-year-olds. But who do you find?

And who do you watch? And who do you look at? And who do you trust?

Now, you said something interesting about kids who are athletes, right? Their structure.

So you're going to play on the school team, the club team, the travel team. There's a lot of kids who don't play sports. That those are the kids, to me, those are the kids that we have to talk to.

So when you look at the President's challenge, which is I mean, I just love the whole idea of it. But once again, it's we got to be able to activate it. Got it. And we got to be able to see. We're going to do two segments, but I do, before we go to break, I want you to tell everybody what you're doing with iHeart.

Yeah, man.

Well, you know, we have a brand new radio platform called Body by Jake Radio. And it's something that has been brewing inside of me. You know, people are desperate for hope and information. And I created this platform where it's a 24-7 platform and it's full of information, little nuggets of motivational tips, inspirational tips, mental health tips, nutrition, fitness tips, surrounded by the greatest music on the planet. Late 70s, 80s, and 90s.

We wake you up in the morning, we put you to bed at night, and it's Body by Jake Radio where it's 72 and sunny every day. Right. And you use all your years of knowledge of health and fitness and lifting, and there'll be nuggets through there. And you've also got licenses for music. Yeah, so we have Universal Music is my partner in this, so we have the right.

To all of their libraries and all original music.

So, all the music that's played, you never have to create your own playlist anymore.

So, whether you're on the train and you need a little pick-me-up, what we're doing is we wake you up in the morning and we put you to bed at night.

So, whether you want to work out to us or walk the dog and just put it on or get some good little tips. Remember the old Austinio Hall television show? Used to do a thing called the Things That Make You Go, Hmm? That's what those nuggets are. They're little lifestyle nuggets where you can use them every day, whether it be something like box breathing, where it's just take a moment.

and take a breath. Breathe in, breathe out. Let's do it four times. Boom. And now you go right to a great song.

Right. And we do that twenty four seven. And the overnight as we go, because we're four days into this thing and you know if if you don't have the iHeartRadio app, it's free, by the way, just search Body by Jake Radio and do a little preset. And I appreciate you. Absolutely.

So, we're going to take a short time out, come back with more with Jake Steinfeld and the body by Jake guy. And he's in the studio. You can see really what he looks like. And will he go and do strike some poses? Because you were a professional bodybuilder.

Oh, almost. Yeah. I don't know yet. We'll see.

Back in a moment. Learning something new every day on the Brian Kill Me Show. Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. So, more with Jake Steinfeld here, Bodied by Jake, all things fitness oriented.

And Jake is pretending like he's never been on radio before. He's wrestling with his headsets. Oh, yeah, I'm wrestling. Let's admit, I was so excited. I was so excited.

I got to ask you, too.

So, one of the things, these are the hottest things. Oh, what up? Do peptides work? Does blue light work? What about Ozepic?

Is it bad for you? You get this non-stop, right? You said you used to look at home shopping, you'd be on for hours, used to look in there and say there's no magic pill. And now there's a magic pill. I mean, I literally did 17 years on Home Shopping Network, and every segment that I did, I mean, you know, I'd be on for 10 hours over a weekend from a Friday to a Monday.

And In every single segment, I would say, listen, there is no magic pill. And today there is. And it's and it's real and I find it terrific. But like with everything, Bri, it's about moderation. Right?

And doing it properly. And making sure you're being overseen on how you do it. But in the same vein, there's a lot of people. Look, there's a lot of people always looking for a shortcut. It's like a lot of people want to get rich, but they don't want to work.

And we know how that works. But here, if you're doing a GLP one, you should immediately, and there's a lot of people that are doing this now, beginning to start to walk again and getting their body moving again. And that's awesome. Because what happens too is the muscles, you know, like I tell people, you know, you start tucking your pecs in your pants. You've got to work out.

You've got to work out. You have to work out.

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We wake you up in the morning and we put you to bed at night. And you started with Ted Turner doing your. Listen, Ted, who just passed away, was my mentor. And he was the one that put me on television the first time. I did the fitness break on Cable News Network in 1981.

And then I launched Fit TV, which was the first 24-hour fitness network based on headline news. And here we are again using the headline news wheel. For Body by Jake Radio. About two minutes left. But I know you thought about running for governor.

We talked about it. You really thought about it, did a lot of research. You were the one that began it all, by the way. Right. You had your house burned down at Pacific Palisades, and you're trying to rebuild it.

About 30 permits have been released of the thousands of homes.

So Mayor Bass is up for re-election, and she's being challenged by Spencer Pratt. I want you to hear this attack ad of Spencer Pratt. Listen to this attack ad. Republican Spencer Pratt is the last thing Los Angeles needs for mayor. Pratt opposes using taxpayer money to build brand new houses for our unhoused neighbors, saying it's time for the homeless to get help or get out.

Pratt thinks LA needs thousands more police officers rather than more social workers. And Republican Spencer Pratt thinks public employee unions should have less power, not more. L.A. is on the right track and needs to stay the course. Vote no on Republican Spencer Pratt.

If I'm Spencer Pratt, I'm loving every minute of that. You just listen. Come on. I think he's done a great job. And listen, We all come from somewhere, right?

So he did whatever he did as a reality guy. He has done a great job. Are you going to consider voting for him? Absolutely, man. I tell you, right now, I'm not big about talking about who I think about, but I love what this kid is doing.

He's a neighbor of mine in the Palisades. He lives in a trailer. He lives in a trailer down by the river. You just laid your foundation for the first time. It's been over a year.

I know. We put the foundation in last week. And I've got to say, as challenging and troubling is, as apocalyptic as the Palisades look, I've been pretty blessed with LADWP has been pretty damn great to us. But I will say, too, our friend Steve Hilton is doing a great job. Steve's governor.

I can't support Consage the State. Thanks for watching. Thank you. Great to see you. Don't quit, everybody.

From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan. It's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead. All right, from 48th and 6th in Midtown, Manhattan, heard around the country, around the world, the Sebrine Kill Meet Show. Wow, what a day.

You wake up and the two most powerful people in the world are having a meeting saying nice things about each other, and you happen to be in just one of those countries, the United States. I'm talking about Donald Trump from President Xi. If I just read the text, I would think, wow, these are two rivals that are going to compete in every way, shape, or form for influence, but it's not going to be about war. Except for I know the difference in that China, what they do with their IP, their cyber attacks on our infrastructure that are happening, setting up police stations in New York City. We just arrested the guy the other day, who just was sentenced.

Police stations to find out what Chinese Americans are doing and crack down on them. Things like that.

So I know we spy on each other, the 10th power, but I could be a little bit optimistic that there might be so much respect between these two unique leaders that maybe we could de-escalate. Michael Pillsbury, who has been working on China, PhD, working with. The Obama administration, the Trump administration, all the way back to Jimmy Carter. He's going to be with us in 30 minutes. You don't want to miss a minute.

I can't wait to get his take on Summit Day One.

So, before we get to Michael at the bottom of the hour, I will squeeze in some calls too. I see you up there from San Antonio and other places. Just a quick reminder: go to youtube.com/slash at the BrianKillmeat Show. You'll get to see all my shows, the highlights, and then you get to see the whole show because almost everything is streamed today.

So, let's get to the big three. Number three. Today, we are sending across 50 Medicaid programs. We are sending letters that will require them to show that they are effectively and aggressively prosecuting Medicaid fraud in their states. J.D.

Vance gets an assignment and he's kicking butt. He was going out there about finding fraud. He did it in Minneapolis, doing it in California. Yesterday, he talked about Ohio, blue states, red states. The Medicaid abuse is staggering, aggravating, agonizing.

We got to put these people in jail and we got to get the money back. J.D. Vance, great start. Number two, they were going to have so many drones and missiles that no one can attack Iran because the result would be catastrophic for the region. And once they had that immunity, then they would break out towards a weapon.

We knew that. The president is not going to allow that to happen under his watch. He's not, Marco Rubio. And as long as you're Secretary of State, Iran war is simmering right now. I think it's about to blow as the terror state fans out and use their fast boats to further dominate the strait of Ramuz.

That's not acceptable. You know who said it's also unacceptable? China. Number one. Achieving the great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation.

and making America great again can go hand in hand. The American and Chinese people share much in common. We value courage and achievement. This region and the world is a special world with the two of us united and together. There we go.

We're watching them now, President Xi and President Trump together. Day one of a two-day super summit in China. There'll be a return visit September 24th in America. If nothing goes wrong, that'll happen. But the next thing will be the Iran war, and we'll discuss all that too.

Keep in mind, you'd always watch the show on the Fox News Radio app in real time.

So what do they actually go over?

So I was struck by a statement that came out, and I'll paraphrase it, essentially that the U.S. has to get smart when it comes to Taiwan in China's view, and basically say it's part of China. Don't get in the way. We're never going to allow Taiwan to be taken by China. And I think the best example, they're telling us essentially.

Don't cash the $14 billion check for weapons and deliver those weapons. We're going to do it. We just gave $10 billion. We're going to give more.

So far, the two sides discussed an enhanced economic cooperation. Both countries agreed that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon. Two sides agreed that the Strait of Hermuz must remain open. The President also highlighted the need to build on progress ending the flow of fentanyl. Guess what?

I talked to an FBI official yesterday. We asked right away to stop the flow of precursors to Mexico for the fentanyls. And they said they're making progress working with us. I have never heard that before. It doesn't mean they're not all hands on deck to infiltrate every aspect of our society.

Both of these guys seem locked in on making this about cooperation and less confrontation. I'm impressed by the effort. Even though I'm not sold, that they'll follow through. I think they're at the point where China says, I need the American dollars here, I need the American consumers here. And President Trump, it's a risk, says, I want China open for American products too.

Here's cut four. And I just want to say on behalf of all of the great delegation that we have, we have the greatest businessmen, the biggest and I guess the best in the world. We have amazing people, and they're all with me. Every single one of them, we ask the top. Thirty in the world, every single one of them said yes.

And I didn't want the second or the third in the company. I wanted only the top. And they're here today to pay respects to you and to China. And they look forward to trade and doing business and It's going to be totally reciprocal on our behalf.

So I really look very much forward to our discussion. It's a big discussion.

So We're going to get some analysis, but I thought Brett Baer on Special Report yesterday is being that he's in Beijing. He's with the People's Liberation Army executive, who happens to be.

Okay. really basically speaking for the government. His name is Colonel Jiobo, and he was speaking to the President about what to Trump excuse me, to Brett Baer about what Trump could be doing and not doing and what they expect on this visit from the China perspective, Cut 15. I think the fact that Donald Trump is visiting China is already a success for the Chinese people. I believe things have changed somewhat because this would be a kind of proof to what the Chinese people have already.

you know, start to believe that China is uh you know equal to the United States. And now, of course, it does not mean that uh oh this is a kind of uh peer competitors, but we can also be on equal footing for you know a lot of corporations around the world, right?

So we'll see. I don't consider them an equal. They have a lot of ships, but they don't have quality. They have no experience in war. Their economy is big, but ours is bigger.

And our innovation is off the charts. And they can't have that. Most of the stuff they have, they stole. Their robotics are tremendous, but until You know, a lot of that's taken from Tesla. Tesla has their factories there, they give up their intellectual property, they have no choice.

But again, I'm just qualifying what they're saying. He went on to talk about the difference between for Trump's first term and second term from the Chinese perspective, Cut sixteen. You see, during Trump's first term, he did not talk much about cooperation between China and U. S. But now even After his first term, from Biden's term to his second term, you have more and more requests coming from the United States asking China to cooperate here at there.

It's true. The other thing which is pretty clear is we just look past COVID-19. I mean, they poisoned the world and denied it, didn't even give us a heads up about it. But the president was working towards a huge trade. First, phase one was done on a massive trade restructuring with China.

And then COVID happened and everything fell apart. The president loses an election and Joe Biden couldn't enforce or chose not to enforce anything.

So, when it comes to the war in Iran, That the number one ally is China.

So would you think they have influence?

So here's what Colonel. Joe Bow said cut seventeen. How much do you think that the Iran war has factored into this summit and how does China view it? This war has not ended, right? What we're seeing right now in the Strait of Holmes is a very strange, almost ridiculous situation in that two countries are having kind of a double blockade of the street, right?

So I believe this will be discussed and I personally believe China would hope that these two countries could make an announcement, for example, to simultaneously reopen the street.

So maybe they're planning on doing something to that nature. Listen. If China says reopen the strait, you have to reopen the strait. Nobody wants to pay tolls on international waters. I wrote about this in Thomas Jefferson, The Tripoli Pirates.

They said, if you don't pay us tribute, which is a ransom or extortion, you're not allowed to use international waters. We said that's not going to happen. We end up in a war. Europe wrote the checks, just like France is writing the checks, steja vu all over again.

So it is In China's interest to end the war, CUT 18. This is a large percentage of oil for China that goes through the Straits. Yes, for Iranians this is more important because it is from 80 to 90%. For us it is about 13%. This kind of damage is obvious for China.

It is bearable, but it is still kind of a damage in a war that has nothing to do with China.

So therefore it is also in our interest to see an early ending of this war. In a way. But then I'm telling you, just to balance this out, I'm reading stories about how China in tanker ships have weapons. And through the Caspian Sea, they're helping them get more rockets.

So Somebody's not telling the truth.

Now is there a chance? Chance. Is there a chance that some of the military does things that the government doesn't know? That could happen. I can't tell you the inner workings of it.

But I do know this. China has had substantial turnover. President Xi has gutted the place. You terms have a shake-up. Look at this.

I couldn't believe these numbers. Of course, you can't look at this, you can't see what I'm seeing. Over the last 18 months, from November 2024 up until May of 2026. That they have let go. In the 18-month window, they have basically turned over the military and their local politicians.

116 provincial and ministerial-level officials were placed under investigation. 69 received disciplinary punishment. Really?

Now, I don't know if it's trumped-up stuff or if they really were found corrupt. They have a couple of minister of justice gets life in prison. The minister of emergency management is in the middle of a major investigation. They have. Fired.

Nine senior paramilitary figures. Two more CMC figures were put under investigation. Two former defense ministers were sentenced in 2026 to death with a two-year reprieve, which usually means life imprisonment. Why would you be firing defense ministers, some of which have been with you your entire career? There is a, you know, people act like, wow, what's going on with the United States?

We just don't hear about the chaos over there.

Now, there's two things. You could have massive corruption and this guy's cracking down. Or number or the other alternative is this guy's just paranoid. They're trying to take over the government, so he's cracking down on insubordination. We just might flat out have incompetence and corruption, which is, even for communists, in many cases, sadly, human nature.

So, the one issue is Taiwan. They're very firm on that. I just want to play the last one from Colonel Jobo. Here it goes, cut twenty-one. I don't believe he will say something like we would support your peaceful reunification, something that is further down the road, but at least he could make a step forward.

And I personally would watch how could he explain the American arms sales to the Taiwanese. I know how the military industrial complex in the United States want to sell more, but the point is at what cost, the what the Taiwanese uh really wants to buy is actually kind of insurance. But the question is, would the United States be willing to fill in the blank check with American blood?

Wow.

So would they be willing to fill in a blank check with American blood? In other words, you c I understand you want to give Taiwan weapons, but do you want to fight a war about it? That's that's pretty striking, don't you think? I'm going to take a short time out to not take too much time away because I want to talk about Iran when I get back and some of this fraud when we get back online. Marco Ruby also talked about NATO.

I also talked about redistricting because it looks like Georgia will now redistrict too.

So South Carolina says, I'm going to redistrict. Louisiana says I'm going to redistrict. Florida has already redistricted. Tennessee has already redistricted. Alabama has already done that.

Seat here, seat there.

Next thing you know, you got some substantial seats. If they could get this inflation straightened out, which means the war ending successfully, Man, that might be a recipe. To Buck History in American politics. We'll see Brian Killmeat Show. From breaking news to big name guests, Brian brings you insight you won't hear anywhere else.

You're listening to the Brian Killmeat Show. Yeah. Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Show. How many people who are unhoused that you meet have no teeth at all?

They don't have teeth? Why? Because meth routes your teeth. You can't succeed without teeth.

So there needs to be comprehensive health care provided to people. This is the genius that is running Los Angeles. And she's responding to the fact that Spencer Pratt, who's running for that spot, and she's the sitting, that's Mayor Bass. Says, you cannot go ahead and put these homeless people in houses. They don't want to be housed.

You walk up to under the bridge and say, I got a house for you, and here's a meal. They'll stab you in the neck. They want meth. And that's what happened. They need rehab.

They don't need health care. She wants to give them all health care and give them free houses. All you get is more homeless, more drug addicts, and beat-up houses that they abandon and leave and go back under the bridge because they have a psychological problem and a chemical addiction. You get that. I get that.

Spencer Pratt gets that. People of Los Angeles get that. But the people they put in office think they're showing compassion and think that this is the way to do things. If you have a heart or feel guilty that you're not a minority, this is what you do. In her explanation.

Says everything. That attack air that I played earlier. that outlines what would happen if you elect Spencer Pratt. And I'll just paraphrase it. Yes.

He would not give your tax dollars. to illegal immigrants. Yes. He would not give your tax dollars to social workers. He instead would give it to cops.

He would not supply any housing for drug addicts because they need rehab. That was supposed to be an attack ad. It's probably the best thing that ever happened.

Now, Spencer Pratt ran into a little bit of problems in that they found him living at the Beverly Hilton Hotel. He goes, Yeah, a couple of nights I do, but for the most part, my whole family lives in a trailer because everything burned to the ground in Los Angeles and it has yet to be rebuilt. I know most people can't get the permits, and so many insurance companies say, Yeah, I'm not paying. I don't have the money.

So, in Los Angeles, there could be the beginning of a ripple effect of common sense, and a lot of times, independents and Republicans winning office. Because Democrats have been running on I am not Donald Trump. And he's a fascist. And then when they say, what would you do?

Well. What I do. I would. Tax the rich. Really?

Will you call Marks? I would blame billionaires. Have a wealth tax. I'd raise taxes. On everybody.

So, other people can have a chance at success. I'd vilify success.

So, would people go, okay, I'm moving.

Sooner or later, we're going to run out of, there's going to be nobody left in blue states that can possibly leave.

So I think that Steve Hilton being number one or two in California sends a message. I think Spencer Pratt coming out, I hope he can withstand the pressure and the scrutiny, going out, and eventually he's eight points out of the top slot.

So it's 30, 22, 18. If he's able to get through the primary, I think it's June 2nd, in June 2nd primary, and go for the next six months talking like this, I think Karen Bass will end up dropping out before running again. She has already tried to. She got out of the second debate. She doesn't want to do it.

She says, I got to be in Sacramento trying to get more money for the people that have lost their houses. Total BS excuse that everyone could see through, just like her Ghana excuse. But why am I emphasizing this in Los Angeles? Because I just think it's the whole country. You look at this mayor in Chicago, you don't think a common sense person should run against this guy next time?

You look at Bomdani in New York City. I didn't say liberal or Republican. You don't think a common sense person can run to be successful? And then you have this guy, Palant uh Plant Platiner, over in Maine. This guy who's an extremist communist Uh who just wants to impeach Trump.

Who Is an oyster farmer, pretends he's a working-class guy. He's actually a guy that went to a prep school for $75,000 a year. Highly educated blame P T S D for his racist comments and his sexist summaries of what women should do when they're about to be raped.

Some of the most horrible things possible. Democrats gonna elect him. Why is he going to lose? Because Susan Collins is a normal person. Yeah, normal against absolutely insane insane.

Or maybe Trump broke their brains. Barack Obama didn't break the Tea Party's brains. They just wanted to be fiscally responsible. They were conservatives. These other people are socialist communists.

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China and the United States both stand to gain from cooperation and lose from confrontation. We should be partners, not rivals. We should help each other succeed and prosper together, and find the right way for major countries to get along well with each other in the new era. So that is President Xi through a translator. Today, what do you think about that?

Do you take them at their word? Do they want to get along? Michael Pillsbury doesn't, and he shouldn't. He's been following China, PhD in the region. He was work with George H.W.

Bush, Jimmy Carter, and is a key contributor to Donald Trump, a key advisor. He is a Fox News contributor, Heritage Foundation Senior Fellow for China Strategy, an author of the 100-year marathon, an author of, and also. former Special Assistant of Asian Affairs to George H. W. Bush, as I mentioned.

So Michael, what do you think of the summit? I know on the comments that struck you is there is Xi's comments put out by his office about Taiwan. Great.

Well, in the big picture, um at the summit's a huge success. Trump is trying something very different from his visit in November twenty seventeen, and the people are all different. If you look at the photo of President Trump and his cabinet and You know, Chief of Staff General Kelly, National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster, Secretary of State Rex Hullerson. All those people are gone.

This is a new crowd entirely. I was really happy to see Steve Miller there. I think he's been the power behind the brains behind President Trump all along, even during the campaign in 2015. but not usually seen as a foreign policy guy.

So whole new team. whole new approach. By President Trump. And it's quite impressive what he's trying to do. And if we go back, just uh.

you know, two weeks or a month, somebody thought this up. Hey, let's get to top seventeen CEOs in technology and finance. Hey, let's have the Secretary of War come with. And that person is a genius. I think it's Pr I think it's President Trump himself.

So, why do you think it's a good what do you think the message is by bringing Pete Hagseth? There were two parts of that message, I think. The first is for the Chinese. drawn in to our war with Iran. And Pete Hacliffs is in charge of that.

And I'm pretty sure that he was asked to give a briefing, and he's going to see his counterpart. Or what the Chinese say is his counterpart in Beijing now.

So we'll be starting the military. restarting a military-to-military relationship, which you may remember was cut off. Partly because Biden was so weak, partly to protest the Nasi D. Pelosi trip. I do record.

Restoring military contacts is a big success that's happening today.

So the other thing is, it looks like the seventeen CEOs have their own separate meetings. with either c companies or Um Chinese officials.

So each one can start to Improve market acc there's two things going on. One is to improve market access to China, which has been ruthlessly. Uh closed. to us and to most other countries in the world. The other is to attract safe investment to America.

And this is a new vocabulary word you may not have heard, Brian. It's all one word, white list. And it means non-sensitive areas to invest, like to buy a hotel or to. you know, by a Tablecloth, manufacturing, factory. Things that are not high-tech, and the other big vocabulary word now is connectivity.

That there can be no connectivity between any possible Chinese investment in America. And our national security either either military facilities or surveillance or intelligence facilities. It's a whole big area. Where Chinese investment the President's been really clear, he wants Chinese investment in that area.

So those are several of the successes we've already seen.

So yes, we'll see what they want to do because we did have this thing about decoupling or de-risking. It seems like we're focusing more on de-risking while still trying to see a way to get the economies to commingle. The President's also open to China investment in America. I don't know if I'm on board with that. How what would that look like?

Okay. Well, you can join Gordon Chang. You know, he said yesterday he's against any. any Chin Amer Chinese investment in America because they would use the factory I think I'm quoting Gordon correctly they would use the factory as kind of a spy base and therefore further penetrate American society. I mean, it's a reasonable argument.

I don't agree with it. I think we can benefit enormously by Chinese investment, but it's got to be carefully monitored. We already. Committee for uh foreign investment. But it's not enough to make sure that Chinese investment is only in the so-called whitelist.

area. And I believe this is being negotiated right now as we speak, the definition of the whitelist. And frankly, whether any Chinese companies will invest in America, because they claim that they're afraid for their lives. because all the the rhetoric about China being an evil uh monster country So this m this may not actually happen. Uh but if the Chinese get back and say, We want to buy, you know, They wanted by the most the most advanced NVIDIA chip factory.

Yeah. The answer is going to be no, you can't have it. But they bought the plaza in New York City. I mean, they bought the plaza in New York City, they have that. I mean so Is it Waldorf Astoria?

Uh So President Trump's approach, I think, is very sophisticated. I I lack the power to persuade Gordon Chang. And he said to support President Trump. But yeah, he's really hurting the president when he goes around. He's also got this thing about bio labs.

You know, there's this. Bioweapons Laboratory. And the Congress sent out a team on because Gordon was so upset. There were 700 white mice. Remember this?

found in a little uh bioweapons lab. near Fresno, California. And everybody was very, very worked up The team without They were they were dead mice. There were samples of various viruses. But it wasn't a bioweapons lab by any means.

And yet, Gordon even said it yesterday. One reason we have to make sure there's no Chinese coming to America. By the way, he's also for closing the embassy and all the consulates. is for all American companies, Brian, pulling out of China. All American companies.

So if you sign up for Gordon's program, it makes sense because Gordon also says China is on the verge of collapse. He wrote a book twenty years ago predicting it in about ten years.

So Gordon has a kind of a theory. They're weak, they're going to collapse. They're evil. They're atheists, that's for sure. And therefore, we should have no contact with them.

Yeah, don't worry about him. I'd rather get your opinion.

So let's talk about Taiwan.

Well, I'm with the Presidi I'm with President Trump, okay? I've helped him know on many discussions we've had about China over the last more than ten years. He helped me tape record him for an hour, his views of Xi Jinping, that'll be in my next book.

So I'm a Trump loyalist. But I'd like to bring Gordon over, you know what I mean? I'd like to recruit him to our side. Yeah. So Taiwan is responsible for 60% of the world's chips, 90% of its advanced chips.

The majority of the industry is based in the city, just roughly 100 miles from the Strait of Taiwan, from mainland China.

So that is not only should we always protect an ally, as you know, we should also worry about national security.

So there is a sense that that is the red line with China. And they're uh They brought that up right away in one of their misdiffs. They said, Listen, basically, how much blood do you want to shed to be able to give Taiwan weapons?

So They are determined to take back Taiwan. How determined? Do you think that's something they would do with Trump in office? Yeah, it's certainly possible. Their ambition toward Taiwan has been pretty much the same for ever since this whole thing began in 1979.

Um our own position toward Taiwan has not been very ethical or moral. in the very beginning under Kissinger, Uh and Nixon actually said this to to the Chinese. They kept it secret for 40 years. Um Whether or not Taiwan belongs to China, we Americans won't take a position. We don't say it doesn't belong to China, but we don't say it does.

And a lot of experts, I think, are quite correct that this is the basis of a future war with China.

So we get warnings now because the Chinese, I've run this myself, last time I was in China. They're very concerned about someone like Marco Lubio. Complete, perfect anti-communist, but never been to China in his life. Marco Rubio even said that to Sean Hannity on board Air Force One yesterday.

So there's a lot of people in the Trump team. who literally have never been to China. let alone be experts on the history. Or have someone like Who speaks Chinese and has been following everything.

So they're kind of creating, and President Trump has never ready to do this, but he's creating a whole new approach. Where the one thing the Chinese are worried about is he's going to change the agreement that Nixon and Jimmy Carter agreed to, which is the foundation for our relationship.

So they've been increasing their threats over the last Uh they b first began to threaten Biden. for the same reason. And they don't think the message is getting through. They think that this huge arms sales package already went twelve billion. By the way, that was more arms sales than Biden's four years put together.

Yes. All put into one package.

Now there's another package coming. And it's not the arms sales itself that bother the Chinese so much. They they go through prooform uh, you know. You shouldn't do that. But what worries them much more is direct official contact between Taiwan and United States governments, not the people.

So This has is very weird to explain it t to a first timer. that Taiwan is not a country. It's not a state. We don't recognize it. We don't let them raise the the flag in America.

when they pick up their F sixteen s or their destroyers, we make them take off their military insignia. Because they're not a country. It's a kind of a weird situation that we're selling billions and billions of weapons to an island. where we refer to them as the local authorities, or sometimes we call it the people on Taiwan.

So that's what I meant by immoral. unethical arrangements made back in seventy two which some people would like to revisit. But right now, the Chinese have exploited the situation by going all around the world and saying America, Japan, everybody believes Taiwan's a part of China. But of course, everyone doesn't believe that, and we've never agreed to it. We've just said we acknowledge that you think that way.

So are the Japanese, so are the British.

So, when do you think that's the flash point for a possible war? I understand that.

So, by the way, here is this guy, Colonel Jozo, talking to Special Report last night. On this cut 22. How close is China to maybe invading Taiwan? I believe we are still having patience and confidence, yeah, because uh we still talk about peaceful reunification and I believe the US also has a role because the United States, at least in theory, still talks about one China.

So it should not be a problem for the United States to urge the Taiwanese authority to talk to China under the principle of one China.

So One Japanese it's a little deceptive there. He's the Chinese broke off the ta the talks, the military to military talks, way back, as I mentioned with the Nancy Pelosi trip. They're the ones who are refusing to talk to Taiwan. They basically hate the Taiwan political party known as the DPP, which is leaning toward independence. In fact, they say we're already independent.

So It's not up to Taiwan or the United States to restart the talks. It's up to the Chinese to restart the talks. Their thing is the The opposition party which controls the parliament in Taiwan by just one vote. It's called the KMT for short. Their new chairman is the 56-year-old woman.

Uh just went to Beijing. Last month met with Xi Jinping, made a big speech saying Taiwan's a part of China.

So she's kind of giving away the whole ballgame. But she got elected as cha as chairwoman of her of the political party that controls the Parliament.

So the Parliament's been blocking they just cut our aid package in half. The Taiwan Parliament will not pass the total amount. This is one reason you may remember Trump kind of upset Taiwan with a long interview he gave more than once, but they don't pay their fair share of defense. They dominate they sort of exploited us with the chip Industry, and he's caused some unease in Taiwan because lots of members of the House and Senate who don't know any better say Taiwan is our ally, we must defend Taiwan.

Well, no, it's not a country. How could it be our ally?

So in my next book, Brian, I'm trying to explain how this all got started. and whether or not We should change the terms. and that we got a bad deal basically back in 71, 72 when we thought China would stay weak. But now we need a different approach.

However, if the KMT takes power in Taiwan and gets the Presidency as well as the Parliament, this is all pointless because this is how China sees it, by the way. They probably will not have to use force because they're going to win the election in twenty twenty eight It's already scheduled. And the polls show a good chance for Ms. Jung The lady, the KMT chairwoman, she herself could run for president of Taiwan and win.

So she's running on a unification with the mainland platform. That makes it very hard for a patriotic American Chinahawk to say we should have nuclear war over Taiwan when we see public opinion moving toward Uh being part of China. If they controlled that strait, they would control the waterways in the in the Far East. That would get Japan, South Korea, us, anybody. W wouldn't that be a major trade route that China would be in control over?

Of course, and it would add to what they've been doing in the South China Sea over the past 10 years. With the islands they were sinking. after I after they promised a rather naive Obama, who raised the issue, you know, please don't have military bases in the South China Sea, that the the then President of uh Taiwan promised in public, on T V that he wouldn't do that, he got home and proceeded to do it.

So yes, they're thinking geostrategically that Taiwan would be a wonderful breakthrough, but they've been reassuring us For about 20 years. Oh, we will never put the PLA on Taiwan. We would have Taiwan be autonomous. You don't like Tibet in Hong Kong.

So and a lot of Americans believe this. We have a very naive view of China, uh including inside our government.

So it's it's quite hard to get this explained to a person making his first visit to China. All right, Michael Pillsbury, thanks so much. Always appreciate it. We'll see what the results are going to be when the president gets home. I know he'll be talking to you about it.

Thanks so much for joining us. Back in a moment. Don't go anywhere. Brian Kilmead will be right back. The talk show that's getting you talking, you're with Brian Kilmead.

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