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One Nation with Brian Kilmead will begin in just a moment, but first, here are your latest headlines out of the Middle East. President Trump is doubling down on his threats against Iran. He says the U.S. will start bombing Iran's power plants and other infrastructure targets on Tuesday night if Tehran doesn't make a deal to reopen the vital Strait of Hormuz. Iranian officials responded with their own threats, saying the trade route will be blocked until Iran receives money for war damages.
Meantime, we are learning Oman and Iran are holding last-ditch talks on possible options to fully reopening the critical waterway. They are reportedly focused on putting safe passage protocols in place to allow commercial shipping access. Only a few ships have been let through over the past month. That's causing oil prices to soar to over $100 a barrel. This comes after the rescue of the second U.S.
service member who went missing after their F-15E fighter jet was shot down in Iran on Friday. President Trump confirms the news on Truth Social after a massive search and rescue mission. The airmen evaded capture for more than a day, hiding alone and scaling rugged terrain. He is said to be seriously injured, but is expected to recover. President Trump will hold a press conference on the heroic rescue mission at 1 p.m.
tomorrow Eastern, and there's new images coming out of Israel showing the destruction left behind by the Iranian missile strike. I'm Ashley Strohmeyer.
Now to One Nation with Brian Kilmead. Hi, everyone. Happy Easter. Welcome to One Nation. I'm Brian Kilmee.
Tonight on the show, you're going to love this lineup. We've got Governor Tate Reeves. When it comes to education, they call it the miracle of Mississippi for a reason. He's going to tell us the key. Congressman Mike Lawrence, believe it or not, Republicans and Democrats do agree on some things when it comes to immigration.
We'll review it. And Jamie Dimon, maybe the most formidable CEO in the country, certainly a voice of saturday when it comes to the finances in America, CEO of JPMorgan Chase. But first, the fastest, most impactful monologue in the country. Political amnesia is the theme. Regardless of how this Iran conflict ends, one thing should not fly: the belief that Iran was never a threat.
They have always been a threat. We used to agree on that. You know, for decades, Republicans and Democrats alike said the same thing: Iran, the world's leading state sponsor of terror. They kill Americans. They take them hostage.
They cannot be allowed to get a nuclear weapon, remember? We're especially not going to tolerate these attacks from outlaw states run by the strangest collection of misfits, looney toons, and squalid criminals since the advent of the Third Reich. We are fully prepared to act to restrict the funds to Iran and Libya that fuel terrorist attacks. Iran is today the world's. Leading state sponsor of terror.
A nuclear Iran is a threat. To our national security, and it's a threat to Israel's national security. Iran is a destabilizing, dangerous force in the Middle East. We cannot afford to have a nuclear arms race. in the most volatile region of the world.
You think? It used to be clear that the city was a very good thing. This is not a new problem. The question is, why does the consensus suddenly disappear now? Are Democrats expecting Americans to forget what they said about Iran in years past, or are they determined, so determined to go against everything President Trump does, they can't see supporting anything he does at all?
Here's the reality. Recent polling shows the country's kind of split, with just 42% of Americans supporting the current conflict with Iran, and the majority opposing it.
So when you hear unpopular war, remember this: the country is divided. Not unified for it, for it, or against it.
So, why is that?
Well, here's why, if you ask me. which you are. Turn on the TV. And unless you're watching Fox, you're hearing this. Donald Trump is doing a very good job of sounding like the hopeless loser of his own war.
The reality on the ground, however, is affected by more than a president's words. The military force is growing. The attacks from both Israel and the United States haven't slowed down. And Iran's response to it all has shaken the global economy. The conflict is only intensifying, and U.S.
preparations for a ground offensive are ramping up, despite the president's insistence that Iran has been devastated. Poll after poll shows what's driving public opinion. Right now, it is not foreign policy, like it or not, it is inflation. It is high prices. It's the price of gas.
So the real question is this. How do you shift public perception while managing a global conflict and keeping focus on the issues that matter most at home? And months away from the midterms. Not that many months either. Let's ask American Enterprise Institute senior fellows, Daniel Pletka and Mark Thiessen, for joining us now.
I guess, Danielle, I'll start with you. We look at foreign policy. It matters, but to the American people, the price of gas, the price of groceries matters most. If you're Trump, how do you play this? I think the President took exactly the right tone in his address to the nation.
He tried to describe this as a contained conflict. You know, this is not Afghanistan, this is not the Iraq war. We're going in, we have a finite mission, and then we'll be out, and there will be no reason why gas prices will not settle down again very quickly. Mark, you know what the ratings are now. You know we're still in April, so we still got months into the midterms.
How does that affect how the President's attacked this?
Well, first of all, the country is not actually divided when it comes to Iraq. If you look at the polling number, Republicans are united in favor. I mean, sorry, Iran. Republicans are united in favor, and Democrats are united in opposed. If you look at every poll, 90% of Republicans support the war in Iran, and 9% of Democrats do.
So, what I've never seen is a war where from day one, one side of the country, one branch of elected government, one party, the media ecosystem has done nothing but talk down the war from day one and root for failure. And that's the problem we're facing. This is the most successful air campaign ever carried out in the history of the world. There has never been something like this before where we have inflicted the kind of damage. I mean, you've got close to 30,000 strikes have taken place in Iran between Israel and the United States, and Iran has succeeded in getting through handfuls of missiles.
So this is a one-sided fight. But as you said, if you're not watching Fox, you're not aware of that. All right. Last thing, I just want people to see a poll at home. Overall, they look at the President's approval at 41%, which he's never going to get 50% or barely going to get 50% in this polarized environment.
Danielle Foreign Policy 38, with his policy with Iran 36. See, which is interesting, I think right now, the thing I think he's doing best is foreign policy, but it doesn't seem the American people see it that way. Look, Brian, you know this, and Mark just said it. We all live in our little curated bubbles, and there's no objective information anymore. What Mark said is exactly right.
We are absolutely devastating the Iranians. We've taken shockingly few casualties, none by the Iranians' hands since the first day. We and the Israelis have taken not just the top layer, the second layer, the third layer. We've taken people out in Iran who I've literally never heard of, and I've been doing this for 40 years.
So, you know, the idea that this is the idea that somehow there's something going wrong here, that we shouldn't approve of how the President is conducting foreign policy. Sure, we can quibble around the edges. We can talk about whether he should give this speech, that speech, say this, or say that. But at the end of the day, we're kicking butt, and the American people are not getting the straight story. From their news outlets.
Let's look at Gavin Newsom. If we look at the polls of late, he's first or second. Harris in the latest poll is up with 26%. Newsome, 19%. Buddha Judge, and then AOC.
I don't know how that happened. But if you look at this new report, it's pretty much a bombshell. Massive fraud, among everything wrong in California, massive fraud to the tune of $180 billion, let alone what's going on with the hospices. I mean, this is a killer number, in a killer meaning in a bad way. Yeah, so Gavin Newsom is the worst governor possibly in the history of the United States of America.
If you think about California, since 1849 during the gold rush, there has been a non-stop. In migration into the state of California for over 170 years until Gavin Newsom. Here's the first time when people turned around and said, you know what? California, not so much. I think I'm moving out.
And that takes special, if you've ever spent any time in California, it's the most naturally beautiful place on the face of the earth. It takes a talent to get people to say, you know what, I don't want to live here anymore.
So this is the worst governed state in America. Close second is Pritzker in Illinois. If they want to dominate that guy and run on his record, let's have it. And his office put out this statement, Danielle. Great to see the federal government root out fraud in Trump's federal health care system in California.
We're very supportive. Gavin Newsom banned new hospices licenses in 2021, but the hospice situation, the fraud is up 1,500%. This is going to end up costing more than the Iran war. This is going to end up costing such astronomical figures. Even Californians are going to have to start paying attention to the fact that they are paying taxes in order that criminals, grifters, and their political class gets rich.
It's just disgusting. Right. I just don't know how long he leads. If he's in a real primary, his opponents will bring up what we just said. That's the way it used to be in the last real primary.
That was between Senator Obama and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. That was the last real primary they had, and I think they both benefited from that. We'll see if they do it again. Danielle and Mark, AEI is very lucky to have both of you as senior fellows. Let me just say that off the record, but I just said it on the record.
Thanks so much, guys. Ah. Thank you. We have some states who have been incredibly innovative. We see the Mississippi Miracle, it was called.
They reintroduced the science of reading. These are not federally directed programs. These are not federal innovations. They are innovations at the state level. I've been reading and watching from a distance, Mississippi.
Tennessee Louisiana, I think Alabama also replicates exactly what you do and they see boom. You got something we can look at, model at, and replicate all over this country. It's one of the most surprising success stories in America. Mississippi, once ranked near the bottom in education, scores from 2013 showing math and reading levels significantly lower than the national average.
Now they're changing the story. They're seeing some of the fastest gains in reading and math in the country. Above the national average now, many calling it the Mississippi miracle, ranked with the best numbers anywhere. Early literacy is one of the reasons. Tougher standards, real accountability.
It was a full system overhaul. Is this one state success story, or could this be a model for schools across the country, especially where I'm at in New York? Let's ask Mississippi Governor Tate Reeves, who oversaw all of it. Governor, congratulations on doing one of the most important things a governor can do, and that's lifting the next generation up. How have you done it?
Well, thank you for having me on today. And yes, we're very proud of the success. That Mississippi has had. And we refer to it, as many people have said, as the Mississippi Miracle. But what you and I know is, while I appreciate using that term because it catches people's attention, it really wasn't a miracle at all.
It is truly the direct result of conservative education reforms that we enacted and we implemented in such a way where we're getting real results. for kids. We passed legislation in twenty twelve and twenty thirteen legislative sessions when I was President of the Senate, our lieutenant governor. And I'm telling you, we went in and we went back to the basics. We started teaching reading again Utilizing phonics, the way it was taught when I was growing up and when you were growing up.
You know, there's been this debate. In our country, about how is the best way to teach reading, and the reality is there should no longer be a debate. The debate has been solved. The utilization of phonics is the science of reading and the way in which it should be taught, and we've proven that. But we didn't just do that.
We did a lot of other things, including implementing school choice. We have public charter schools in our state now. We have ESAs for special needs students. We also implemented the Literacy-Based Promotion Act, what was called the Third Grade Gate at that time. Wherein if you're not reading at a certain level, When you finish the third grade, and we test every kid.
If you're not reading at a certain level, you do not get passed on to the fourth grade.
So there is no social promotion in the state of Mississippi anymore. That ensures accountability. That shows that we to the teachers and the parents and the students where their focus should be. And it is all born by simple belief. We believe that between pre kindergarten and third grade, kids need to be learning to read.
But once they move beyond the third grade, They should no longer be learning to read. They should be reading to learn. And that model has proven to be a huge success in our state. Hey, you went from my 49th or 50th to I think the highest is 13th, is the latest rankings I saw. But it's not spending.
What's so interesting is the latest numbers I've seen is New York spends about $30,000 per kid. You guys spend $14,000. Excuse me, you guys spend $12,000, Louisiana spends $14,000, California spends $18,000.
So you have better results for less money.
Well, that is exactly right. And I will tell you a good bit of that total spending we have enacted in the last three or four years because as a conservative, I believe in rewarding those responsible for success.
So we gave the largest teacher pay raise In the history of our state, a few years ago, we're in the middle of our legislative session right now, and we are debating giving our teachers another pay raise. Again, when you put A process in place, and everybody comes together, and you see real results. Where literally Mississippi is number one in the country in 10-year growth numbers in both reading and math, I believe you reward that success. And so, a lot of the money that we're spending now has been increases in the last five years to reward the success that we had starting back in 2013.
Now, you don't see as many as such a dramatic improvement from grades eight and up. Why is that?
Well, obviously, it takes some time. Obviously, when you start talking about teaching. Third graders to read and ensuring we're reading by the third grade. The very first class that we did that with back in the 2013-2014 period, they only graduated high school a couple of years ago. Got it.
And so, again, this is a long-term plan. But what we know is today we have the smartest fourth graders in the entire southeastern United States here in Mississippi. When you have the smartest fourth graders, that means in 10 years we're going to have the smartest workforce. And so, the other thing I would just mention to you. Brian, is that look.
These results are not just happening for some of our kids in some of our school districts. The reality is, conservative reforms in education help kids across the board. African American students. We were 45th in the nation 10 years ago. Our black fourth graders scored number three in the nation when compared to their peers this past year.
Hispanic students, number one in the nation in reading, number two in the nation in math when compared to their peers. These reforms are working for all kids. I also see you got 90% graduation rate. And knowing that you'll leave people back if they're not ready, that's authentic. Look, when we started this over twelve years ago, our high school graduation rate was about seventy two point five percent.
It has risen to almost ninety percent. And what that means in the real world is that there are literally over 3,000 kids Every year, that are graduating high school today that would not have 10 years ago. Over a 10-year period, that's 30,000 kids with a high school diploma that would not have had one 10 years ago. In a state of 3 million people, that's 1% of our population every 10 years with a high school diploma that would not have had one. That's making a real difference for those individuals and the lives that they can lead, the potential jobs that they can get.
It's also making a huge difference for our employers because the number of people that they can hire that are capable and competent to do the jobs of the future is growing in our state every year as well. But you just answered the question I started with. Can other states copy this? Or is it just Mississippi? Obviously, other states can do exactly what you're doing.
Only you choose to do it, and now you have the results to show you did the right thing. Governor Reeves, thanks so much. Thank you so much. Great to be on.
Next, the debate over immigration rages on, but believe it or not, there are some things both sides can agree on. We'll take a bipartisan look with Congressman Michael Lawa and Immigration Attorney Michael Wilds. Plus, my exclusive interview with J.P. Morgan's own Jamie Dimon. Don't move.
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The first duty of the American government is to protect American citizens, not illegal aliens. The jobs they hold might otherwise be held by citizens or legal immigrants. The public service they use impose burdens on our taxpayers. That's why our administration has moved aggressively to secure our borders more by hiring a record number of new border guards. It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating.
For a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years, and we must do more to stop it. Wow, right? Different parties, same message. For decades, the presidents have agreed the U.S. must crack down on illegal immigration.
You saw Democrat and Republican, right?
Now lawmakers are trying to turn that shared goal into policy, at least one is. And hopefully, Democrats will flash back and understand they used to agree with this. It's a bipartisan bill known as the Dignity Act. It promises tougher enforcement and worker protections while offering certain undocumented immigrants legal status without citizens if they pass background checks, pay taxes, and stay employed. Supporters are calling it reform, while critics are calling it amnesty.
Let's ask the Republican New York Congressman Michael Lawa, who co-sponsored the bill, and Democratic Immigration Attorney Michael Wilds, who is the immigration attorney of Melania Trump. Welcome to both of you guys. Great to see you. Tell me about the Dignity Act. Expand on it, Congressman Law.
And is there other Democratic support for this? Yeah, Brian, this has broad bipartisan support. In fact, this Congress, we have added significantly more co-sponsors than last because I think folks do recognize. That we have a problem. Immigration has not been reformed since 1986, the year I was born.
And the fact is, our immigration system is fundamentally broken. President Trump was right to focus on securing the border, and he has effectively done that. We've had nine straight months of net-zero illegal border crossings. He was right to focus on the deportation of criminal aliens. The next step is to actually fix the broken system.
This bill is common sense. It says if you've been here more than five years, so not the people that came under Joe Biden's disastrous administration, but the people who have been in this country more than five years, 10, 15, 20 years, whose children and grandchildren may in fact be American citizens. They would qualify if they have not committed a crime. They pay back taxes. They pay a fine.
They have a job and they do not collect government benefits. They would qualify for a legal status, not citizenship. They would be precluded from citizenship. But this would get people out of the shadows and start to fix the broken system so that we can address some of the major challenges. The fact is, we have over 25 million people in this country undocumented.
You're not rounding them all up and kicking them out. The criminals need to go, and the president has been right to focus on that. And the last thing I'd say, Brian. The President exposed many of the Democrats during the State of the Union when they refused to stand for protecting American citizens over illegal immigrants. I want to end sanctuary city policies.
Actually, having a comprehensive approach here is the best way to do that and force the Democrats' hand and the sanctuary cities, deport the criminals, secure the border, and fix our broken system. Michael, could you get behind this? You spend your life in your family, your dad spent a life in the immigration area. Can you get behind the Dignity Act? My late father was John Lennon's lawyer, and I had the privilege of representing Mrs.
Trump. We're blessed with wonderful people that have come through America's golden doors. It's a step in the right direction. It may not be what Democrats necessarily want, but the conversation of onboarding America's talent is good business. It's very valuable for us not to only stop bad people from coming through the border.
I'm a former federal prosecutor myself, but to also onboard foreign students who are paying tuition, and then we compete against them when they go to another country. But to onboard people into the workforce, to fix the broken immigration system. It was President Reagan, a former Democrat, who later in life as a Republican gave 3 million green cards to people in 1986 that could prove they were here unlawfully in 82. We don't have enough beds, handcuffs, and cars to move 25-plus million people out. The question is, are we going to take that golden tool in our toolbox, that very DNA of America, that Lady Liberty portends, that very special thing that our founding documents and parents envisioned, and that is a country made up of people with accents, whether they pray on a Friday, a Saturday, or a Sunday, but will help build America's future together.
We're not going to deport them. We need to onboard them properly. I want you to both weigh in real quick. And Trump feels that way. There's meat packers, there's people in the service industry, farmers who have voted for Trump, who said, you can't throw out my workforce.
Like it or not, they're the backbone of it. And the president's talking about a long-term work visa, Mike Lawler. But some Republicans cringe at that thought process. But he told me on radio. He's like, I'm thinking about doing something for those industries, for the illegals here, who came here illegally, but maybe don't get.
them citizenship, but give them long-term visas. Could that be something you get behind Mike Lawler? Of course. And again, this is what the Dignity Act does. It doesn't give them a pathway to citizenship.
It gives them legal status so that they can actually continue working. Mike Wiles, Congressman Mike Lower, thanks so much. We'll see what happens in the next few weeks because I think the President could be open to it because no one ever thought it was possible to seal the border. He did that, making reform truly something that could get done. Mike Lower, Mike Wiles, great job.
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Mr. Trump is renewing threats to bomb power plants and other infrastructure if Tehran does not lift its blockade on the vital waterway. Iranian officials responded with their own threats, saying the trade route will be blocked until Iran receives money for war damages. The president is giving Tehran until Tuesday at 8 p.m. Eastern to comply.
This comes after the heroic rescue of the second U.S. service member who went missing after their F-15E fighter jet was shot down in Iran. President Trump confirmed the rescue on Truth Social after a massive search and rescue mission. The airmen evaded capture for more than a day, hiding alone and scaling rugged terrain. He is said to be seriously injured, but is expected to recover.
I'm Ashley Stromeiner back to One Nation with Brian Kilmead. Yeah. Welcome back.
So my next guest needs a little introduction. He runs the country's largest bank and is one of the most important financial voices of our time, let alone today. Jamie Dimon. This week on my radio show, I caught up with the J.P. Morgan Chase CEO to talk the economy.
Talk about Donald Trump, Iran, and even the possibility that he runs for president. Watch. Are you concerned about the economy, Tay, and what areas please you, what doesn't? Yeah. Well, I think, look.
Not really. There are some positive things taking place. I mean, you talk about the economy. There are hundreds of factors that affect it. And gas will be one.
It's a negative for the population, more for the lower-income folks than everybody else. But you still have jobs, you still have huge capital expenditures, you still have tax benefits coming to families.
So right now it looks pretty good. But the most important factors, we have huge deficits, we have these geopolitical events, how long this war goes on, those things can easily change the economy. But for now, we don't see it. Have you felt the difference with a businessman in charge? Even if it's a businessman that makes decisions different from a politician?
Have you felt that? Yeah. I mean, if you talk about the president, yeah, they have some very good people around them. They make decisions. They know the real world.
They put some very good people in some of these jobs. Delaware's Secretary of Treasury Scott Besson, excellent. A lot of his staff is there. Did you know him ahead of time? I'm not telling you, I agree with everything they all do, but they're really capable people.
I did not know Scott. No. You know, what's interesting is I was listening to David Sachs, and he said, It's so interesting because we bring up the president with a problem and he wants to solve it right there. Isn't that the way you run things, too? How do I solve this?
Who do I get on the phone? How do I fix it? Who do I do? That's not really how a politician traditionally focuses. Let's get a meeting together, let's go to that committee.
Yeah, we do I mean we We do lots of analysis and deep dives and facts before he makes certain decisions.
So I don't actually know his decision-making process. I'm not in the room. But I do know he likes to take action. And that's a wise thing to do. When I look at our government, I think it's important to have people in the government who have been in the real world.
who've had to deal with. And that's whether doctors, sometimes lawyers, you can't have all economists and lifelong politicians because the real world isn't the same as the theoretical world. And how mankind operates and what regulations actually do to people and what works and what doesn't work and how you deal with bad people. Not everyone's good. You know, you and I were talking about how this government was formed by our founding fathers.
They were brilliant, but they knew that not all men are good. They prepared for how we prepare for the fact that not all men are good. How do we make sure that the majority doesn't cripple the minority and create a civil war type thing? Um Yeah, so I think it's good to have people of deep experience going back and forth. We used to have much more of that.
You know, 30, 40 years ago, and that kind of stopped over time. Much less of it. I want you to hear what Kathy Hochl said recently. I thought about you, the governor of New York. I need people who are High net worth to support the generous social programs that we want to have in our state.
Right, now there are some patriotic millionaires who stepped up.
Okay, cut me the checks. I mean, just if you want to be supportive, but maybe the first step should be to go down to Palm Beach and see what you can bring back home because our tax base has been eroded.
So, how do you feel about that? First, she said hit the road if you don't like high taxes, and now she's saying we need you to come back. I think a good politician should realize that you need a competitive state to build and grow businesses. And you've seen, if you look at it, Texas is growing, Florida is growing. They like business.
They have incentive systems and tax systems that bring in business, and it helps all the citizens of those states. And that's the biggest mistake, that somehow punishing business is going to help lower income people. It doesn't. And you've seen people leave and people vote with their feet. It is a free country.
They have the right to do it. They are not immoral because they say, I worked hard for my money. I want to pass more of it on to my kids. And we have to be very careful to act like you're immoral because you want to do that. Do you worry about the mayor who only talks about raising taxes?
He doesn't think billionaires should exist. Yeah, no, I saw that. Yeah, look, look, the rich have done very well. And I do think it's legitimate to say that the lower income haven't done very well and that we as society should do something about that. The way to do something about that is to grow the economy.
Create opportunity. Teach kids in high schools with certificates that give them jobs and cyber. And that's the way you do it. Driving out business isn't the way to do it.
Sounds good.
So mayors either learn, look at the mayor of Detroit. He said, you know, they had a terrible problem, highest unemployment. And he said, anyone who can help me. You know, business, civic society, schools. And we called him up and said, We're in.
What can we do? And we worked with him. And of course, the credit goes to lots of people. He turned the city. That's how you fix a city.
And so some mayors learn how to do that and some don't.
Some are so wrapped up in their ideology, they're unable to actually figure out what works. Do you think there's something you learn from the Strait of Hermuz being such a factor now with global energy prices that we change? For example, Saudi Arabia has redirected some of that oil through the Red Sea. We know there's a pipeline there that allows them some flexibility. Would you hope we address this?
Yeah, well, hindsight is a wonderful thing. There are a lot of things that we should have done differently around security, resiliency, energy. Europe is hugely reliant on liquid natural gas from the U.S. And from Qatar. And so, in hindsight, they built one pipeline that goes to the Red Sea, carries 7 million barrels, but you could have built a lot more.
So that you're not reliant on the straits of Hormuz, but it's too late to do that right now. Though that would take years and years to do. You know, the there's a lesson is that these people have been threatening the world for a long time. And I shouldn't say threatened, because when I hear that word threat, it's like they didn't do anything. No, they actually killed and murdered people all around the world, including Americans.
You have this initiative going forward, the American Dream Initiative, to expand local and economic opportunity. Because right now, our numbers that we have, that only 32 percent of the people listening to us right now, Americans, even though we're heard internationally, 32 percent of Americans believe in the American dream. You want to change that. Yeah. Well, first of all, they should step back and look at this unbelievable country of ours where if we open up our borders, billions of people are coming and want to be American.
But we should also acknowledge our flaws. It has been framed for the lower income, mostly for the lower income third in our country. Their schools aren't good enough. They're not getting jobs. And we should do something about it.
This has happened, by the way, over 40, 50 years. Even after the war and poverty started, it didn't really work. We have to acknowledge that and do something about it. And this is our part.
So we're going to do more mortgages, more education. We have 25% of our branches in lower-income neighborhoods. We bring the people in to teach them. We've got a community manager who walks around, gets to know the businesses and the religious institutions. We're going to go from 7 million small business to 10.
We're adding 1,000 new bankers. And we're doing it quite locally. But last question is you in the big picture. You're not ready to retire. I know that for a fact.
You've said it many times. But at one point, you always into challenges. If the right opportunity came to serve in government, Would you ever have you thought about running for president? The field is literally wide open on both sides. Look, obviously, it's been mentioned to me a lot.
I think it's kind of when you love what I do. And remember, it's quixotic to run for president. I'm also very patient. I'm not a quixotic kind of guy. Yeah, but I'm not a quixotic kind of guy.
I think from this perch, I could do a lot of stuff to help my country and everyone here and stuff like that.
So the answer is no. I'm not really thinking about doing that. And I applaud the people who do it, but it is hard. Would you be a Democrat or Republican? I don't know.
I'm I would not be an ideologue of any sort. Understood. Jamie Diamond, thanks so much. I hope you like that. You can catch the entire interview with Jamie Dimon on my YouTube channel.
There you go. Just go to youtube.com/slash at the Brian Kilmey Show.
Next on this show, though, the FIFA World Cup is just around the corner. Can you say June? We talked to one of the architects, a modern American soccer. U.S.
soccer, I should say, Alan Rothenberg. Don't move. You're watching a special edition of One Nation. More right after this. Season!
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So the world's biggest sporting event for the world's most popular sport, the World Cup, coming back to America this summer. All games on Fox, most games being played right here in America. A big reason, my next guest, Alan Rothenberg. He was never really a soccer fan growing up and found himself right in the middle of the rise of soccer in America. He landed himself in charge of the 1984 LA Olympics, the soccer portion, and never let go.
From bringing the U.S. Women's Program to stardom, launching the MLS, and of course bringing the 94 World Cup here. He's the author of a brand new book that outlines his fascinating career. It's called The Big Bounce. Alan Rothenberg, thanks so much for joining me.
My pleasure to be here. I mean, what a career you've already had. I just think it's hysterical that you never planned on being a soccer guy. You never said you're an expert. But man, without you, soccer is not where it's at in America today.
Well, in some ways, the fact that I wasn't a soccer guy. Helped because before I was elected president of the Soccer Federation in 1990. The soccer had been run by volunteers. And they were people good-hearted, loved the sport, but they didn't have a business background and they really weren't objective about it. The fact that I Could be totally objective about it and view it with clean lenses and look at what the opportunities were.
Probably was helpful.
So you are at 28 years old, you're running a team called the Wolves in Los Angeles. They become the Aztecs, part of the NASL.
Some of the players you bring in, George Best was there, one of the world's best, and then you substitute him, pun intended, with the other best, Johan Cruyff. He's playing in Los Angeles for you. And it is like bringing LeBron and putting him in Italy at 28 and say, or 32, and saying go play there. Yes, and having the person he's playing for knowing nothing about the sport. The year before was the first time I'd ever seen a soccer match in my life.
I saw three of them. And the next thing you know. And then 3,000 miles away, you got Pele, Canalia, and Meckenbauer, and soccer's beginning to boom. You run the soccer portion of the 84 Olympics, great success. But you get the 94 World Cup here.
And you were convinced it would sell. Why did it sell and what did the what happened to soccer afterwards? I wasn't sure on a pure soccer basis how popular it would be. I have to be honest about that. but I knew Americans love a big event.
And so we figured, okay, there's going to be this hardcore of soccer fans, mostly at that point ethnic Americans. But if we can make this look like the biggest event possible, hot ticket, you got to experience it. And so we did things. For 94, that were unheard of before that with FIFA. Before that, it was soccer.
Soccer sold itself, and it was always. in host countries where it was a religion. I mean, we had more entertainers and more events. But Alan, you brought millions of dollars. When it left, they left, were you $20 million?
No, more than that. It was over a $50 million surplus, which was, you know, when I took over, the fear was that it was going to bankrupt the Federation. And in fact, when they asked me to take over, I turned down a salary saying, you know, let me just do it. Fortunately, I was on a good leave for my law firm, so I wasn't having to sleep out on the streets during that period of time. But I said, when it's over with, depending on how the results are, you can give me a bonus.
But at that time, they really thought it was going to be a financial disaster. We created a foundation, and then later, with that $50-plus million-dollar surplus that we earned, we funded that foundation, which 30 years later is still helping grow the sport in this country. And the MLS launches after another year. One question still looms, and that is: is this just a great moment in women's sports history, or is it the beginning? Of a great movement.
For a while, the trophy was named after you, but your greatest legacy, perhaps, I think so, is what you did for women's soccer. Virtually invisible in 92 when they win the World Championship. They didn't even want to call it the World Cup, but you believed in this, in women's soccer when no one else did. They appreciated in the book from the Mia's Ham to Julie Faude to the Brianna Scurry to the Christine Lilly. And I was at the game with over 100,000 in the final against China with Bill Clinton in attendance.
And they win when famously Brandi Chastain takes her shirt off after hitting the winning penalty cake. What did that feel like to you, and what did it do for women's soccer? Mia Ham's surging stars helped this sport gain recognition and helped the Women's World Cup sell tens of thousands of tickets. I think this tournament is a success on its own. I think there are so many personalities that make up this tournament.
Well, it was the seminal event for women's. Team sports, you know, individual sports, tennis, primarily, were popular, but team sports for women were not. It changed everything.
So it was not just soccer, obviously, but it helped soccer soar for women, but others. I mean, now you look what exists now with softball, with basketball, hockey. You know, women's sports is in the ascendancy, and I don't think. It would have happened that fast. It was probably inevitable, but it wouldn't have happened that fast but for the incredible success of the 99 Women's World Cup.
Lastly, Alan, as you know, the USA hockey team wins gold, and it really helped the sport and helped the league. I know you said it's not likely. And the odds says it's not going to happen. But there is so much international talent on this American team. What would it do for a U.S.
team to get to the Final Four or get to the finals? What would it do for the league you started, the MLS? It would take it to a site that we've never even dreamed of being at this time. I mean, obviously, ultimately, we're going to be. The best, but it's going to take time.
But boy, if we ever got to the Final four, let alone the final two, and let alone winning it, it would go through the roof. Right now, if there's one place where MLS is having. Uh A challenge is they don't get TV rights fees. And that's the lifeblood of every team and every league in every box and everybody in the box. And I think if they ever do as well as we're talking about, that will change everything.
The rights fees will explode, and at that point, they'll be able to keep the top U.S. players from going to Europe and able to bring some of the top players from Europe in their prime.
So, you know, it's too much to dream for. But, you know, in the World Cup, we had the Browning quote. A man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's a heaven for? And so that's where we're always going to be. Just, you know, go as far as you can.
And even if you fall a little short, you'll have made a heck of a lot of progress. There's no better way to end the interview, but you've got to read the book. Even if you're not a soccer person, it's sports and it's business. And he really is a pioneer for so much. The Big Bounce.
Alan Rotherberg, thanks so much for sharing your story. Happy to do it, Brian. Sad news, that's it for us on this Easter night. I want you to tune into my radio show Monday through Friday from 9 to noon. It'll never let you down.
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