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Are you so what what kind of pace are they at in terms of uh incoming today? Listen, a week ago it was about thirty a day.
Now we're down. This morning had about three or four. Which is we're dealing with it. We have our bomb shelters. Right.
What does it tell you with the lower cadence? Do you think it's a choice? Or is it about their stocks, Iran? The answer to both questions is yes. The answer is yeah, we're hitting their launchers, yet we're hitting their arsenals and their production facilities, but they're always going to save a couple of missiles for rainy days.
And all they need is to have one or two of these rockets a day, and that kind of ruins your life. They just oh, you hear it? Yeah, I heard something. You hear that? Yeah.
That's the next rocket coming in. How about that? I'm going to stay with you as long as I can, okay? Understand. Understood.
All right. That is a pre-rocket warning. We have actually a pre-rocket warning that comes over our cell phones. You can see it, the writing there. That's telling you to get near a bomb shelter.
And that gives you another minute or two. You're going to see. But they're also outsourcing.
So they got his bullet firing at us at the north. And they're going to soon. My guess is when his bullet runs low on missiles, they'll bring in the Hooties. And maybe some of those terrorists that they have in Syria and Iraq.
So, you know, they're outsourcing, they're one big terror network. And if I could, Brian, could you say a word about the the those bombs yesterday in New York of the ISIS terrorists? You know, we tend to distinguish between ISIS and Hamas in Hezbollah and Iran. It can be very confusing, especially if you're not living in this region. They are all the same.
They may be Sunni, they may be Shiite, but they have the exact same theology. They aim to recreate the medieval Muslim empire in the Middle East and then expand that realm to the world. They will use the same modus operande. The same way of completing this vision is through terror, it's through genocide, it's through propaganda. And what they all have in common, and this is very important for understanding this war, is that they all have the same definition of victory.
In order to win, they have only not to lose. And they don't care how many people they get killed, how their own people get killed. And we have to know this is the nature of our enemy. And it's a hard one. It's a hard one to wrap your head around if you're not living here.
Right, we just watched the we did watch ISIS and Iran fight in the aftermath of when President Obama took out all our troops stupidly after the successful surge in Iraq. We watched ISIS come out of nowhere and try to take Baghdad, and it was Iran and the U.S. and the Kurds who pushed them back. That's where. When someone comes out for ISIS, you're not necessarily coming back from Iran, but you're saying the bracket is Islamic extremist.
As a bracket islamic extreme, so what's going on in Manhattan? is not divorce what's going on literally in my house tonight. And it's very much linked by a common theology, a common implementation, and a common goal. To win, they only have not to lose.
So I want you to hear what Commissioner Tisch said that these two bombers would-be bombers confess to. Cut 12. The complaint also details statements made by Amir Balat after his arrest. En route to the NYPD precinct, Balat made spontaneous statements without being questioned by NYPD officers that were captured on body-worn camera footage. He said, This isn't a religion that just stands when people talk about the blessed name of the Prophet.
We take action, we take action. As well as, if I didn't do it, someone else, someone else will come and do it. And later, after waiving his rights, he requested paper and wrote a message declaring in part, I pledge my allegiance to the Islamic State. Die in your rage, you kufar.
Now, die in your rage is a commonly known ISIS slogan, and kufar is an Arabic term that refers to non-believers.
So he's there talking. How rare is that? Because you deal with this every day.
Well, at least they're being honest. Exactly what you just said. Yeah, they're being honest. Give them credit. Yeah, but what they're saying is not so much different than the leaders of Iran will say or Hezbollah or Hamas.
It's very, very similar. And it's right. If they don't do it, someone else would do it. And here's the good news. I want to leave you some good news: is that.
You know, ISIS is still a threat. It's a threat in the Middle East, it's a threat in America, but it's a lot less of a threat since Donald Trump defeated them. And this is true. There are neo-Nazis running around too, but there are a lot. 'Cause there's no German state behind them.
So you know, when the when the terrorists have a state behind them, like they have in Iran, that's what Hezbollah and Hamas and the Houdis have, they have a state behind them. You take down the state, And these terrorists may still be around, but they can't threaten you in the same way.
So, Ambassador, a couple of things. I want to bring you to an interview I saw you do on CNN yesterday, and I was so glad you said what you said. I want to bring you back to that moment. We just heard that reporting from our colleague Matthew Chance. We know that an Israeli military spokesperson was asked if Israel was preparing a large-scale ground invasion into Lebanon.
He responded, all options remain on the table. I'm curious what you see as the next steps for Israel in all of this. Good to be with you, Jessica. Let me just first comment on Matthew Chance's report, a very lengthy report, which somehow did not mention. Once, one of the 220 rockets that Hezbollah has fired at northern Israel in the last five days.
that has displaced thousands of people, wounded dozens, killed I mean, if you don't do that, you have not done your job as a reporter. He is reporting on the ground. Hang on, hang on. He is reporting on the ground. And the exchange.
I was just so glad you called it out. Because it's important to report accurately. Not sympathetic to either side, but if you're going to be on the ground, report what's happening. Why are you in there? You're getting rocketed.
How has this coverage been in this conflict compared to others? Has that happened a lot, what I just witnessed?
Well, you don't get to pick up the New York Times, pick up any newspaper. It's all about the suffering that the United States and Israel are inflicting on the people of Iran, the people of the Middle East. You wouldn't know you're dealing with an empire which is fundamentally, irredeemably evil. And that they are shelling us non-stop. And this report, there was a seven-minute item on CNN that talked all about all, again, all the suffering that Israel is inflicting on the innocent people of Lebanon.
And by the way, we do not have a beef with the Lebanese people. We want peace with Lebanon. It's Hezbollah. And Didn't mention one rocket. I mean, it was outrageous.
I got to tell you, it was outrageous. And I don't lose it. You know me, I'm kind of diplomatic. I don't lose it easily, but that just drove me crazy. And it's terrible journalism and it's propaganda.
And it's creating a situation where the viewers of these reports are thinking to themselves, well, the Israelis just wake up every morning and think nothing else except killing people. And it couches us as fundamentally evil beings. And it actually has a strategic danger. It's not just PR. You know, the New York report was done by a CNN reporter of those two Islamic extremist bombers.
They let off the fact that they were Islamic extremists, that they were mentioning ISIS, that they were motivated to do this. And then they took the report down. They got so much criticism. But let's not talk about them anymore. Let's talk about this.
What is going to break? What is it going to take to break the institutions of this Tyrannical Evil government of Iran because it looks like the institutions are still holding strong. big outward display for the new supreme leader. It looks like they still have the bashij going up and down with motorcycles, making sure the Iranian people don't feel a sense of freedom to turn on their government. What's it going to take to break their back?
Okay, I'm going to be very honest with you about this. I know in the United States, legitimately, there's a tremendous amount of fear about endless wars in the Middle East, forever wars in the Middle East. And their frame of reference is the war in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan. But I think that's the wrong example, because there are no boots on the ground here. And America can keep up, and Israel can keep up, the aerial campaign until there's no more missiles being fired at anybody.
And I don't know how long that takes, but it's not months. It may not even be weeks. But To truly defeat Iran, to weaken the regime to the point where people can rise up and overtake it, or a coup can be mounted from within the regime, is going to take a sustained campaign of pressure. It includes a very tight naval blockade, so not a drop of oil gets out of Iran. And the example here is not Iraq and Afghanistan, it's the Cold War.
Cold War took decades. I'm not saying this is going to take decades, but the Cold War took decades. The United States was strong, and the United States eventually triumphed over the Soviet bloc. And it may take that long because, again, like Hamas, like Hezbollah. The Iranian regime doesn't care how many ships you sink.
It doesn't care how many supreme leaders you kill. Their one criteria for victory is. We survived. We're going to come out of the rubble and we're going to give a V-sign and we've survived. And you've got to create a situation where they can never claim that they won victory.
If the war was to end, Today, Iran would claim victory. If you ask the people in the Hamas in Gaza whether they won the war after two years and all that destruction, they think they won the war. because they're still standing. And so we have to create a situation where they're not still standing. And it doesn't necessarily have to be a military solution.
It could be punishing sanctions, it could be a naval blockade. and it create a situation where nobody can make a a rocket launcher anymore. And that could be sustained. And I think that that the American people, I believe, Would be able to give support for that. Certainly, the people of Israel will give it 100% support.
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So, how important is it to take out this 56-year-old son of the Ayatollah Khomeini, who now has the reins of that country? He looks as evil, more, they say he's more evil than his dad, that no one's really heard his voice. There's no charisma or Q-rating there, but in terms of ruthlessness, Um, I don't think that's an acceptable substitution, do you? No, but it's almost irrelevant because it doesn't matter if they put up John Doe there, if he has exactly the same policy, the same worldview. Which we are going to try to recreate this medieval kingdom and we're going to expand it to include the world, and we're going to use terror, and we're going to use genocide, we're going to use every possible means of doing that, then the logical response, the moral response of the United States and Israel has to be to eliminate that imitual as well.
Until such a time as maybe it sinks in, that this is not very good for the Iranian people. The Iranian people are a talented, ultimately pro-Western people who want prosperity. They do not want to spend A half trillion dollars on a nuclear program, which is now reduced to rubble, or to spend billions for terror, and these terrorist organizations have been reduced. Or to build mallistic missiles, again, at billions, the cost of billions, just to threaten neighbors and kill people throughout the Middle East. And maybe, maybe there'll be that type of uprising or that type of coup within the actual military.
That will say, okay, enough. We want a different life. Ambassador Michael Orrin, our guests. What is your feeling about getting rid of the Karg Island, which is 90% of where? The Iranian oil is processed.
We could take it quickly. Do you think we should? I I I'd be fer better to take it rather than to blow it up. Put it that way. I think that there's a grand strategy here.
of denying major oil supplies to China. It started with Venezuela. It's now moved into Iran. 90% of the Iranian oil goes to China. And if you're looking for pressure points, On China, this is a great way to do it.
what is it going to take to give people security going through the Strait of Hermuz? I'm hearing from military officials, it's going to be a few more days because we've got to get rid of all rocket launchers that could send something maybe two hundred miles. Into this direction. I think the escort idea is a great idea. And going back to World War II, Where the U.S.
Navy escorted convoys going to Great Britain. It kept Britain going during the Battle of Britain and after. It's a tried and true method of doing it, and I think it's again, I don't want to overuse the term, it's the moral response to keep oil flowing through there, escort those tankers. Do you think it's possible? Do we have the naval assets?
I think you do. I think you do. You're going to get more of them. America has eleven aircraft carriers. There are two of them now in the vicinity.
Three. And or three one heading there, right? And so they there's a there's a lot more assets out there we can use. But And you make convoys, you put them in convoys. The destroyers, the cruisers, have a tremendous amount of anti-missile technology and interceptors on their ships.
And they can use them. foolproof and you have to keep on all the time diminishing and degrading. Iran's missile capacity. And this is where the Houthis will probably come into. They'll start shooting eventually.
Why do you think they're waiting? Why do you think the Houthis are waiting? They're waiting for the time when when maybe Iran is is running a little bit low on their missiles. And because again, they're the same way. Their definition of victory is they're still standing.
You can bomb them, you bomb the Smithereens. I mean, the Trump administration really bombed them very, very heavily, and we've bombed them. They don't care. As long as someone can press a button on a missile launcher, they're still in business.
So you've got to hit them very, very hard, again and again and again. America has a lot more firepower in the region than it had two years ago.
So this can be brought to bear. It's not pretty, it's not easy, but I think it's necessary. It is necessary. There's no doubt about it. Ambassador, anybody that got a newspaper delivered over this last 47 years knows Iran has been at the head of the terror list, and nobody else was confronting them except for you guys, and now us.
And now we're together. And there's no two better fighting forces in the world than Israel and the U.S.
So hopefully we achieve all the goals. Ambassador Michael Warren, stay safe. Nick Brian, thank you so much. You got it. Thank you so much for your support.
You got it.
