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From High Atop, Five. Fox News headquarters in New York City. Always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmead. Hi everyone, welcome to the latest moments of the show on this Christmas Eve.

I know, for example, if you are braving the weather, you're going to be delayed. Perhaps if you're in the West Coast going east, that is always a challenge, especially this time of year, so don't let it get you down. We have a lot to discuss today. This hour, I'm going to be joined by Carly Shimkiss, fresh off Fox and Friends, and Rich Lowry, editor of National Review.

So let's get to the big three. Number three. If we do the quick math, 9 billion in fraud divided by 5.79 million Minnesotans comes out to roughly be $1,500 a person that each Minnesotan, each hardworking Minnesotan, has had stolen from them from the Walls administration. Yeah, sickening. All signs point to Governor Walls looking the other way as Minneapolis was robbed blind by many of the in the Somali community.

What does he, what, what does he, what does he do? He blames J.D. Vance. You're not going to believe it. Investigations are coming big time.

Number two. Maduro's been in power for 12 years. You've got to give Trump time here. If we allow this to take a little time, ultimately, I think the goal here is to win. The war, the regime change without firing a shot, and Trump is beautifully playing this right now.

Yup, retired Navy SEAL Mike Sorelli joined me on Fox and Friends today, and that's his review of what's happening in Venezuela. Maduro start packing, but indications Trump's ready to rid Venezuela of their illegitimate dictator. Why I am all for it, despite the risks. Number one. This is the golden age coming.

4.3% this quarter means Americans on average are making more money, more money in their pocketbooks. That makes for a great Christmas. Don't have a pocketbook, but I do have pockets. The economy shows signs of soaring as we close out 2025. We're going to go over the stunning numbers and see.

when the rise of consumer confidence will follow because it's not there yet. And by the way, you could always follow us. If you missed the show, you can get the podcast anytime, and you get the Fox News app, and you could always listen to the show. Collie Shimkis, welcome. Hello.

So, I mean, we have a lot on our plate going into this holiday season on foreign relations. You know, Netanyahu's coming next week to Mir-a-Lago. I know he's going to be reportedly asking. He said, look, Iran's reconstituting their ballistic missile program, reconstituting their nuclear program. I know how to take it out.

Just want to tell you, I'd like to do it. Yeah, so the president, although it's Christmas, he's going to be at Mar-a-Lago, does not stop. He's 4 o'clock today. He's going to have a presser. It's true, yeah, right.

It's true that Benjamin Netanyahu is going to be having that conversation with him. And they're worried not about the nuclear program, although they still have their sight set on that and are making sure they know exactly where things stand with Iran on the nuclear front, but they're worried about ballistic missiles. And Iran has been testing ballistic missiles recently. And they say that these tests could easily. Easily be a mask towards Launching those ballistic missiles into Israel.

So that's what they're worried about, and that's what the President is going to be talking about with Netanyahu. Because, you know, they were able to generate the air defenses of Israel. We forgot that, but it was pretty consistent, kind of scary over there for a while. But they also took things into their own hands, as you know.

So, Venezuela, what do you think is going to happen? Man, isn't it I mean, it's one of those things that Initially, when it happened, I think everybody was really confused about what this was about because it always felt like it was bigger than drugs. And I think it is. I really think it is.

So right now, the president has sent even more troops and military power into the Caribbean. And that just happened yesterday.

So man, are things ramping up? And I think one of the things that the president said recently that's very interesting and somewhat telling on where he is mentally when it comes to Venezuela is, did you hear his press conference he had with Pete Hagseth when they announced the warships? I only got the warship announcement.

Okay, so he took a bunch of questions and one of the reporters was like, what is your goal when it comes to Venezuela? What's going to happen? Same question you asked. And is your goal for Maduro to leave Venezuela? And his response was like, I don't know.

Yes, maybe. It's up to Nicolas Maduro. And I think that one of the things that Trump is doing right now, and this is something that Mike Sorelli said to you, and I love this comment on Fox and Friends. He says that a lot of this is psychological warfare. I mean, imagine being Nicolas Maduro and hearing that from the president, and you don't know exactly what his goal is and where things stand.

I really think that what Trump is annoyed about is the drugs that are coming to the country from Venezuela and also Trende Aragua. And he is pissed about that and does want Nicolas Maduro to pay the price for that. And then there are all these other things when it comes to Venezuela that are like bonuses for Trump. Because if you take down Venezuela with oil, that impacts Cuba, that impacts Russia, that impacts China.

So I feel like he doesn't see any downside. And who knows, maybe this will be the turning point for the country. I mean, the U.S. is moving large numbers of special operations, aircraft, troops, and equipment into the Caribbean. And that means that, okay, they're taking.

Their oil. First, they're blowing up the drugs, and then they're taking their oil. You know, the ships that contain on the average tank are 80 million barrels of oil. We're stopping. We stopped two.

We're threatening to take more. We're in the process of taking a third. Already, Cuba is paying the price. The president, Maduro is losing any type of revenue we would have gotten. I did not know that 80% of the oil that goes out of Venezuela goes to China at a discount.

So China's feeling it. That's 15% of their oil. Here's more from Mike Sorelli, Cut 17. Cuba has had special police services within Venezuela.

So, again, it's much like Beijing in Moscow or pulling back, understanding not to get involved within the Western Hemisphere. The economic strain that this puts on Cuba, it may almost be, and I hate to bring up the term, which was a failed term, the domino effect. If you take down Maduro, how does this impact Cuba and potentially regime change there? Can't make it worse. Right.

You can't make Cuba worse. I mean, can you imagine living in Venezuela or Cuba right now, especially with this oil squeeze?

So, yeah, I think that the president is hyper-focused on the Western Hemisphere. And he's talking about countries that, Brian, we've never heard any president really focus on before. Greenland is back in the news. He just appointed a special ambassador and the governor of Louisiana there, and he's still focused on acquiring that territory. Greenland is currently not on board with it, but I understand why the president is focused on it.

I think it's fascinating. I love that that conversation is back in the news. I just think you could do a deal with Denmark and just say, look, we're going to be expanding our military base there. You're not touching the rare earth. You're not even protecting these people.

So we're going to do it. And I think there could be a deal be done. And then it builds towards Denmark saying this no longer makes sense for us. But I just think you get the national pride up when you say we're taking it. And we'll be like, really?

We're taking it now all of a sudden. It could be a language thing. Because people in Greenland. There are all sorts of opinions, but there's not one. I think the overwhelming opinion is that they don't love right now the idea of being taken over by the United States.

But certain things that the U.S. can provide Greenland, which are greater, we're so much closer.

So, from a national security standpoint, we're right there. I mean, they're mail. We could do a better job on their mail. Also, World Cup tickets. If we make you part of it, you'd be getting an American discount.

Wow. Think about that. I haven't gotten confirmation, but I could make that happen. Fast food restaurants, American chains in Greenland? In two seconds, right now, there's 60,000 people, and basically they go fishing every day if they don't eat.

As far as I can tell, it seems like that. Here's Steve Yates. Talking about the Venezuela situation, he's with Heritage Cut 19. President Trump's proven willing to sort of gradually increase the pressure and maybe change the negotiating calculus. Certainly, Maduro would be wise to heed the president's warning.

He talks like no other president. I love it. Right. And I think it matters.

So I think Democrats don't know what to make of it because they are not pro-Maduro, but they are embarrassed. They have to be embarrassed that Joe Biden said, We are going to start pumping oil. We will take your oil because I don't want to drill because I signed this whole Inflation Reduction Act, and I promised Bernie Sanders I wouldn't be promoting fossil fuels.

So I will drain the strategic oil reserve, and then I will do a deal with. Venezuela. And you know what they were supposed to do? Have free and fair elections. You know what they didn't do?

Have free and fair elections. And never did anything about it. Yeah, exactly.

So if Democrats are going to go to bat and say, what's Trump doing?

Okay. What'd your guys do? Right. And how did that make anything better? Yeah, exactly.

And I'm just really interested in where the president is mentally on this because he has been cagey on what his ultimate goal is. You know why. I think that's by design. He doesn't want to say regime change? He doesn't want to say regime change because of what it means and he doesn't want to do it.

He wants to let the people of Venezuela make the decision, but he's trying to squeeze him to the point where Maduro is forced to make one decision while you can. A condo in Belarus, a house on a cul-de-sac in Moscow, something, because soon it's going to be jail. Because that's what could happen to you. Yeah, totally. And I just go back to, I think.

President Trump is so angry when it comes to Trende Arago in this country. And a part of this really could be revenge. And I don't know if that's like something that you could say politically. Um, but I'm not a politician, so I can say it. And I and I really think that's part of it.

And then think of how I mean, we talked about this a bit on Fox and Friends today, but did you hear those comments that Hunter Biden made about his dad and immigration? And saying, I mean, he sounded like a Republican now and then, being like, We, you know, we really should have focused just on, you know, good people coming into this country. And, you know, during my dad's time in office, everybody was coming in. It's like, really? You say that now.

I mean, you have such influence over your father. Where was that statement for four years? I mean, there's a lot of people who thought he was making all the decisions, Hunter Biden. He also said he was going to get in a physical fight with Jake Tapper, wanted to knock him out.

Okay, good luck with that. And then he also said that, yeah, my problem was getting involved with Ukraine and there's a bunch of kleptocrats. Really?

So Ukraine was the problem. That's why when you joined the Burisma Board. He also jumps all over the Obama administration for making him divest and stop doing consulting work because they said they would make his dad look bad. Didn't stop him from getting a place on Burisma, do a deal with Romania and getting off the Air Force too and going into China. Right, yeah, it's everybody.

That's why you should never speak publicly for five hours straight, which is exactly how long that interview was. Unless you're Brian Kilmed, you speak for six. You never make any mistakes. That's true. As far as I can tell, let me Google myself.

Oops, I did.

So there you go. We're going to take a short time out, be back more with Carly Shimkis. And Carly, you're going to be on tomorrow on Fox and Princess. Yeah, that's right, Christmas. All right.

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He's such a I mean, look, I almost got in a fight with Jake Tapper at the Super Bowl in, I forget when it was. I mean, the first Eagles Super Bowl. Not the first, but it must have been. It was shortly after my brother's death, and he had done something that I thought was totally f up. And I told him I would, if it weren't in front of a lot of people, I would knock him the fk out.

And this is how much of a he is. He called my dad and demanded an apology. What? Yeah. He's a grown man.

He called one of my dad's staffers and he calls me, he said, I felt threatened and Hunter owes me an apology. And by the way, I felt incredibly justified. I'm not going to tell this story because it's too convoluted. But just that. That's who Jake Tapper is.

I mean, you know, he talks big, hides behind a pen and a desk. And I don't think that he contributes anything. Anyway, to the discourse, or provise any real journalism whatsoever.

So, Hunter Biden took aim at everyone. The Obama people around him, Nancy Pelosi, five and a half hours on a podcast with Sean Ryan. Carly, he was saying he's going to knock out Jake Tapper, and he called his dad.

Well, I mean, literally, that was before Jake Tapper wrote a book about how inept his adult his dad was. Afterwards, it cashed in on it. What is it with the Biden family and wanting to fight people? I know. Did they ever actually fight him?

Are they supposed to be like a premier political family in our country? And you have him saying he wants to fight Jake Tapper, Joe Biden saying he wants to take, remember Trump behind the gym and knock him out? What? That's the way we used to do things in Delaware. And talk about con contributions.

Hunter Biden is talking about somebody not contributing to American society, really?

So here's what he said about his dad in Afghanistan. We all know the biggest disaster in American military history.

Now even Hunter admits it. One of the failures was the way in which they executed the withdrawal from Afghanistan. I think it was an obvious failure. I think 13 Marines are dead. I think that there was a better way to do it.

And I think that, and I can blame it on his generals. I can blame it on the people, the way in which we did it. But my dad always knew this also, is that the buck stops with him. I think that that was a failure. I don't think leaving Afghanistan, I think leaving Afghanistan was the right thing to do.

I think that in terms of the 20 years of blood that your brothers gave for an endless war and $8 trillion is that there is a never-ending lust to continue to sell material and our blood, sweat, and money to a country that has never been anything but a killing ground for empires.

So regardless of whether you believe that or not, the execution of the withdrawal resulted, I think, in and by the way, you can blame part of it on Trump and that he let all those people out of the prison and tell them, but you know what? But it stops with the president. And that's what he said. That was a mistake. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, I you know, I think what that shows is that everybody I mean, what he's saying is obvious. But coming from him, it's notable. And it shows that everybody, even within the Biden administration, absolutely knew that they caused one of the most horrific crises that America has ever faced. And yet, when they were doing the press conferences and when they were doing the speeches, they were saying this was out of our control. We're doing the best we can.

This is the situation that we've been dealt with. It's not us. Don't look at us.

Well, you know, fast forward however many years it's been. And now you have the president's son saying the obvious.

So, Carly. Just so that everyone knows, sometimes people underneath you make a decision that has nothing to do with you. Let's say Sean Duffy decides to do something and doesn't tell Trump.

Well, Trump's administration, but Sean Duffy made it. This was him directly. This was, he told the generals, I want everybody out. He goes, Really?

Well, just keep a small force. I can't keep a small force there. That force will be annihilated, so I got to pull everybody out. This guy pulled people out and didn't tell NATO, who had 4,500 troops there. Then he pulls out.

It didn't cost $8 trillion to do Afghanistan. In fact, it was done on the cheap. Maybe people say we should have gone in with a bigger footprint or should have pulled out right away. Having said that, no one ever balanced out what we were getting from that occupation, and that was a looking-glass intelligence on China, on Pakistan, on Russia, right in the area, and an over-the-horizon on Iran. That's what Bagram gave us.

That's what Afghanistan gave us. And when we left, we got the Gaza and we also got Ukraine invaded. And we also now have two dead service members in Washington, D.C., who were killed by somebody who came to the United States as a result of the absolutely zero oversight that took place because we were rushing to get Afghan citizens who had just. Been controlled by the Taliban and terrorist organization for their entire lives into this country. And now we have no idea who is.

So that's one of the things that left everyone behind. We said that we left good people there to die, and we took a lot of the bad people, and we still have no idea how many people. It just feels like such a ticking time bomb that we're still living through to this.

So listen, this is what they said. And he goes on to say this: after Afghanistan, after forcing people to take a vaccine, after firing people in the military that didn't, after keeping schools closed, they had a midterm election and they lost the House by just four or five seats. And they gained a seat in the Senate or lost one seat in the Senate.

So Biden says, Hunter's saying, my dad's thinking, this is great. I just did better in the midterms than all my predecessors, and I got 82 million votes. Of course, I'm going to run again. Yeah. So, and but the reason why was abortion.

Roe v. Wade was just turned over eight months prior, and that's what every Democrat ran on. Isn't that fascinating? And that hindsight is 2020, and that political timeline really does check out.

So, Joe Biden was taking credit for something that had absolutely nothing to do with him.

So, he runs again. Then, we have the disastrous debate, and now we have President Trump who's trying to clean it all up. And think about this for those evangelicals. There was one President that delivered the Roe v. Wade overturn.

Politically, the President said, wow, this has been it's a It's double-sided, but he's like, this is what you guys wanted. This is why you guys put me into office. Yeah, exactly.

And he delivered it.

Now it's not even going to. I thought this is going to be a big deal for 20 years. I actually don't even think it's going to be on the ballot, technically, on the midterms. No, not at all. And I know I hear the wrap-up music.

I know this is a note to end on, but abortion hasn't been impacted in this country. People, unfortunately, can still get them in states where it's provided. It's a state choice.

So, some people are happy, some people are sad about it, and that's the way the cookie has crumpled. And then we'll find out when we annex Greenland will stand. Yes, they'll be pro-choice or pro-life. Or pro-Taco Bell, because we're getting the restaurants at the same time. That's true, yeah.

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This is the Brian Kill Me Show. This is what happens when your own federal government wages war against you. This is what happens when they target communities for their own benefit. This is what happens when they scapegoat. And this is what happens when they no longer hide the idea of white supremacy when you hear the Vice President of the United States talk about now white people won't have to apologize for being white.

That's never happened once in my whole damn life. Great. Welcome back, everybody. Joining us now is Rich Lowry. Rich, your thoughts on what you just heard.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean the reason why the Vice President said that, of course, is because there has been discrimination against white males. And there was this viral piece two weeks ago published by Hollywood Ryder explaining his experience, experience of a lot of other folks, and then showing by numbers. I I don't think there's been a a white male intern at the New York Times for years now.

So that's that's obviously crazy and has to stop. And the Justice Department is really committed to enforcing civil rights laws across the board, which is the way it always should have been. We have a race neutral constitution and race neutral civil rights laws. Exactly.

So of course, Governor Tim Waltz, who is the most inept politician in America, and now we might be corrupt, Or ignorant, I don't know what's worse when you talk about billions of dollars who have left social welfare programs, maybe to another country, under his watch. Here he is responding to J.D. Vance, Cut 26. Uh excuse me, yeah. the Tim Waltz responding.

Said this, cut 27. We don't treat anybody different because of their race or their sex.

So we have relegated DEI to the dustbin of history, which is exactly where it belongs. In the United States of America, you don't have to apologize for being white anymore. Don't bring it on. Forget the political correctness. He's going to double and triple down on it.

Yeah, my only equivalent of what he says is, I would say, trying to relegate it to the dustbin because there's still a lot of work to do here. They've had a fantastic start, but this effort, the DEI, they're just going to change the name. It's going to kind of go underground. They're going to try to duck and cover and wait this out and keep doing it in the future.

So this is a long-going struggle, but directionally, what he said is absolutely right.

So 100 mayors got together in Minnesota. I don't even know if they're Republican or Democrat. I interviewed two this morning, one who put everybody together and just said how outrageous it is and how worried they are. There'll be no money for any social programs. They abuse Medicaid and welfare and grants.

They formed a company. They sent the money over back to Somalia, it looks like.

So we're buying mansions, cars, going on expensive vacations. They totally abuse the social welfare system. But I believe, Rich, this is bigger than that. This is emblematic of what's wrong with Obamacare. People getting it that aren't eligible for it, people lying about what they're doing with it.

Of course, people taking advantage of it. And then you have somebody just flat out corruption. I'm going to lie about giving food to homeless people and keep the money. I'm going to lie that these kids are out of autism and keep the money.

So, and put their normal kids.

So, the stuff they did was horrific. I want you to hear from one of the mayors. This guy is Jackson Purefeast, Cut28. You know, I would say there was talk at the beginning of this current year, but within the last three months, this has really gone downhill. And, Brian, if we do the quick math, $9 billion in fraud divided by 5.79 million Minnesotans comes out to roughly be $1,500 a person that each Minnesotan, each hardworking Minnesotan, has had stolen from them from the Walls administration and the policies coming out of St.

Paul. Pretty bad, don't you think? And by the way, I still don't know if he's a Democrat or Republican. Yeah, terrible.

So, this is a reason that the social welfare state, as we know, it really evolved first in Scandinavia, countries with really high levels of social trust where no one would steal anything, even if they had the opportunity. They just don't do it. But when you have societies where there's no social trust, it becomes much more difficult because the fact is, yes, there should be stricter requirements on these programs, and everyone should be checking more, but there are limits to how much vetting and checking you can do.

So, at a certain level, you have to trust people. And if you can't, it's an utter debacle. And there's so many elements of this, but one is that Somali Americans in Minnesota, prominent ones, have not denounced this at all. They're keeping their silence about it, which is shameful. And there was one actually Somali American prosecutor who's involved in this case, who's been very brave and has spoken out about it.

And he pointed out just how the Somali culture played into this because a lot of people don't speak English. They're new here. They don't know what's going on. They're scared of crossing their community.

So if they know they're cheating or they hear about cheating, they're scared to report it.

So all of that played into that. This, but the biggest loser from the scandal, obviously, is Tim Baltz. He just looks like a total idiot. Not that that's a new phenomenon. But yeah, he wants to run for re-election, he wants to run for president.

And I just think the people of Minnesota deserve better.

So, Rich, you write to one of your columns about the latest anti-Israel conspiracy theory is decades old, and we're watching. We're watching Turning Point in the Merifest and couldn't be impressed, but I could not miss the fact that Ben Shapiro is battling with Steve Bannon and others, and J.D. Vance evidently called out Ben Shapiro.

So we see what's happened on the right. A lot of it ends up being manifested in anti-Israel, anti-Semitic Conspiracy theories. Could you tell us what's got your concern right now? Yeah, so there's a lot of this stuff, but this is one that's been around forever. It's the so-called USS Liberty incident.

This was a U.S. spy ship near the Six Days War in 1967 that got hit by Israeli planes and torpedo ships. Horrible, horrible incident. A friendly fire incident. Obviously, a friendly fire incident if you look into it.

But people, because they're so anti-Israel, are again returning to this idea that Israel did it on purpose.

So we're supposed to believe that in the midst of the Cold War, when the Soviets were hostile to Israel and Israel desperately feared the Soviets, they went out of the way to attack a ship of a friendly superpower. It's just absolutely insane. As soon as they realized their mistake and that they failed to correctly identify the U.S. ship, they apologized. They rendered assistance or attempted to render assistance.

They flew out our naval attaché to the ship from Israel, et cetera, et cetera. But there's almost, it's really frightening because there's almost no lie about Israel that people aren't willing to tell. And apparently there's not an audience. Yeah. So there's also a sense now there's s some conspiracy theories out there that Israelis with the Mossad killed Charlie Kirk.

Yeah, it's just nuts. Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk. He'll get his day in court. But if the feds have made up this case, it would be one of the worst law enforcement scandals of all time in the United States. And it's not just the feds.

Utah, for some reason, would have to be in on it. If you just look at the video of him running off of the roof right after the shooting and jumping down, apparently carrying a rifle, you just say that's the guy, just based on no other evidence whatsoever. But there's tons of other evidence, including his DNA, excuse me, is on the trigger elsewhere on the rifle, on the casing, on the towel that was on the rifle. He confessed to his boyfriend. He confessed to his mother, his father, and a family friend.

So this is as open and shut a case that you can get.

So the idea that somehow the Jews were involved is laughably insane.

So, how does this end? I mean, you've seen a lot. You've been writing a lot for years about the Republican Party. Are they too conservative? Pat Buchanan comes in, he's way to the right.

How is it going to affect the election with George H.W. Bush? And, you know, Donald Trump comes in and he's got ignores the autopsy after Romney lost and just. Is strong on the border, doesn't matter. People misinterpret it as anti-Hispanic.

These are things that got worked out on the right before. You know, the Freedom Caucus destroying the majority for John Boehner, but being too conservative, perhaps, but not practical. But this is a different type of fight. How do you see it playing out? Yeah.

So I think substantively the the Ben Shapiro side of more r rationality on on this stuff will win. Politically though, the ally of certainly the most prominent member of the other side, Tucker Carlson, J.D. Vance, is going to win politically. I think he's going to run. He's going to get endorsed by Trump.

It's very likely he's going to win the nomination. And he's not going to n denounce Tucker.

Now, J.D. is not anti-Semite and is not an insane conspiracy theorist, but he's not going to denounce those people either.

So it's going to be a little bit in between in that sense. And I think to the extent this is a fight over foreign policy, I do think J.D. is less interventionist than Trump.

So Trump is clearly not where the quasi-isolationists are, but J.D. Vance, if he's not there, is much closer.

So to the extent this is a proxy fight over foreign policy, I think the quasi-isolationists are going to win because J.D. Vance is going to win. I don't have to tell you that Netanyahu is going to be coming to Mar-a-Lago and he's going to be showing the president intelligence. that shows that Iran is reconstituting its nuclear program and starting back with its ballistic missile program, which is a direct threat to Israel's sovereignty, looking for permission to hit them if all reports are correct. Do you think Trump will grant it?

Yeah. I don't know. I think he might be reluctant to go have at it again so quickly, but I think it depends on the nature of the evidence. It's a little bit a tough one for Trump, right? Because he was so all in on we totally obliterated it, there's nothing left.

So to within months to say, oh, wait a minute, I think that's going to be difficult for him. But you could easily say it was obliterated, but not just not to the point where it can't be reconstituted. Yeah, or the stuff we we hit was obliterated, but there's just other stuff we didn't know about. And the missiles, no one said they wiped out their missile program. Yeah, no, that's true.

Which is part of the reason why Obama's uh deal was such a calamity. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it it it let them get to the cusp of the nuclear program and just sit there so they could break out whenever they want and then all the terrorism and all the missiles and everything else was unaddressed. Lastly, Uh uh when it comes to Venezuela You know they're a threat, you know they're a problem in the region. And now the President amped it up by putting special forces on board within striking distance of Venezuela.

You know, they were interdicting tankers, and we told we said, everybody, stop flying over Venezuela, so there's no fly zone. What's next?

Okay. Again, we talk about this every week and every week of I don't know. I'm not sure Trump's decided, but certainly we're we're further down a regime change military action.

So I kind of think he's going to pull the trigger. I kind of think Maduro is going to be someplace else besides Venezuela by the end of next year, maybe Turkey, but we'll see. Economy grew at over 4%. It stunned everybody. Here's Kevin Hassett on this: cut one.

You're going to get a 4% number. It's really interesting to see the headlines from the fake news. Everywhere you look, it's like, oh, it's a completely surprising north of 4% number. But the point is that President Trump's policies are working and they're very visibly working now because we've seen the data. You know, President Trump, when we were talking about the numbers, he said something like, well, why don't we get 20%?

Did you see that he truthed to that today? I don't know about 20%. But the point is that we're in a very unprecedented time. That the macro thing is that it's just like when we invented the computer and then, or was it Al Gore that did that? Oh, he was the internet.

And then all of a sudden in the 90s, we had incredible growth year after year after year with no inflation. And so, you know, President Trump's right. That's what we're doing again.

So there you go. The numbers are stunning. I mean, not every number is great, but most of them are fantastic getting into the new year. Yes, great, great number for them. They need it to keep up.

They make a very sincere case that it will keep up. As Kevin said there, if he's right that we're entering in a period like the nineties with technological growth and low inflation, that would be just fantastic. That'd be fantastic. for the country.

So I I hope they're right, but we'll need to we'll need to see what happens in the coming year. Do you on a minor note that maybe you care more about and maybe I care more about than most people? Mike Pence launched a think tank, and it looks like he's getting some Heritage Foundation board members there. your thought about what's going on on the right. Yeah.

Yeah, again, this is another function of the turmoil that we were just discussing. Although this is in the realm of the think tank world, so Heritage Foundation, the president there, Kevin Roberts, has wrenched the Heritage Foundation in the direction of kind of the quasi-isolationist and the populist nationalist. A lot of folks there weren't on board that program and have headed over to Mike Pence, who's a more traditional conservative.

So this is just the think tank realm for this ongoing battle. Rich, do you think that you and I should launch a think tank? It sounds like fun. I don't know how fun it is, Brian. I think you'd have a pretty fun gig.

Right. I would like to just go somewhere and just think. Think tank. Yeah. Hey, Rich, what are you doing?

Well, I'm going to think of my office. I'll see you at lunch. You're going to go think. Exactly.

Rich Lowry, National Review. Have a fantastic Christmas, Rich. Merry Christmas, everyone. Thanks so much, Brian. All right.

Back in a moment. Diving deep into today's top stories. It's Brian Kilmead. This is Ainslie Earhart. Thank you for joining me for the 52-episode podcast series, The Life of Jesus.

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If they could fix the immigration issue, we'd try to fix the immigration issue. Right? Because we need immigration. We need a vibrant immigration. But we don't want immigrants that are coming here illegally draining us of resources.

And also being prioritized above. People that are actual literal heroes that are coming home or that are still recovering from 21, 20 years of endless war.

So that is Hunter Biden sitting down for five and a half hours with John Ryan, at which time he points out, and you heard some of it, how bad the immigration problem was under his dad, which is really his own fault. He goes on falsely to say they had a bipartisan deal done, but Donald Trump called it off. Here's what's inaccurate about his description: the problem with anything that Joe Biden would do on immigration to reform it, he has zero credibility because he was in denial that he let 10 to 20 million people in illegally as the border got overwhelmed on a regular basis, never gave them the resources they needed, allowed tens of thousands of unaccompanied minors to go with strangers, so-called sponsors that we still can't track to this day, another 20,000 still out and about. That doesn't seem to bother you, but let's focus on the Epstein trials, the Epstein files over and over again. But what he's dad did lost all credibility.

Why would I ever trust a bipartisan deal? That Joe Biden was a part of. Because he was never going to enforce any of this stuff. Because there were laws on the books that he was ignoring anyway.

So now you gotta cut a new deal, give him some cover that he did a bipartisan deal, maybe even momentum. For no reason.

So Trump says, listen, you have no credibility. You already sold off the parts of the wall the American people paid for for pennies on the dollar. You let tens of thousands that come in. If you show up, you get through. They showed up with Biden-Harris t-shirts on.

And now I'm going to sign off on your bipartisan approach to immigration. Forget it. And Trump sealed it off better than anyone could imagine.

Now he talks about Hunter Biden that he's buried in debt. I think he owes $15 million. Keep in mind, he's already got his pardon. Listen. The last one: Tuckett reveals he's in debt.

Litigation sucks. I've been t I've look, I've been tied up. In in criminal and civil and in courts. And you know, I mean, like I I got, I don't know, $14, $15 million in debt that I have no idea that I'm gonna pay off. I I have uh You know, I mean, millions of dollars of debt.

Yeah. Bit. You know, nobody's riding to the rescue for Hunter Biden. My dad, you know, entered the bi the presidency as the poorest man to ever take the office and he left the presidency the you know, not poorest, I mean, which is fine, but you know, like he has no we have no generational wealth. I don't have any you know, despite what these guys say, like, there's no billions of dollars buried underneath my dad's house in Delaware.

You were getting a million dollars just from being on that barisma board seat. You blew it all. The CEFC, how many tens of millions of dollars did you get for that Chinese company? Let alone what you did with Romania. And the work he did there, like we had to have Hunter Biden's international legal experience with the Romanian oligarch.

We don't even know what you did with the Russian mayor. Uh you know, the female mayor. And you got involved in all this.

So whatever you did. And if the money's really gone, which it sounds like it's really gone. You can't cry poverty. The only reason you owe $15 million is because you didn't pay taxes, and you already got some of it. Exonerated because you have a rich producer friend, air quotes, who paid all your bills and put you up in a beachside condo.

And then you got a pardon, and now you're mad that you got a pardon. Makes you look bad that you got a pardon.

Okay. Give up the bardon and go to prison. You could look a lot better then. It makes no sense. I don't know why I gave him so much time.

And just because I see him contradicting his dad so often. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead.

So glad you're there, everybody. It's the Brian Kilmey Show on Christmas Eve, where we know weather is going to be a challenge. I already saw during Fox and Friends how many delays there's been, how many people have to wonder. You know, for example, even in California, where weather's not usually an issue, it's raining so much in San Diego and in the Palisades area, people are worried about it. Kennedy is here, has a house out there.

I got an evacuation order. Right. Well, you really paid attention. You went 3,000 miles. That's right.

Right. I mean, that's you really evacuated. I would love to go back to my house, but insurance won't clean it.

So and. The government is not forcing insurance companies to do anything, so they're just screwing everyone over.

So I would love to be home right now. Can't go there. And do with private insurance. Uh yeah. I did until they dropped me.

Right. After the wildfire.

So you have a house that's intact, but it's uh but it's got got dangerous chemicals. Yeah, exactly.

And you did not want lead. No. And then now the insurance company is trying to say, well, the lead was there before. It's like, oh, interestingly, no one got sick and tested positive for lead poisoning like they do now. But thanks.

Who's your insurance adjuster, Christy Whitman? No, it's Geico. Oh. Geico, after this, so disappointed. I don't I'm not I'm saying this maybe a little out of order, but Nate Foy is coming up later.

I'm not saying I'm looking forward to him more than you. You're not gonna take that.

Sorry I didn't sing at the Christmas party, Brian. Right. By the way, did you see him sing? No, I was busy getting engaged. Oh, that's right.

On Christmas Eve. Excuse me. On on our Christmas party. Yeah. Were you at the party?

Getting engaged? I know I was at the party, and my beloved fiancé was like, come have dinner. And I was like, okay, cool. I've seen it. The party was still going.

Oh. Yeah. I made my rounds. I high-fived. There's no gluten-free foods.

So I'm just trying to get into your mindset for a second, okay?

So you're having a good time. You brought him. No, you couldn't it was not a plus one situation. Good, because I thought I was the only one not allowed to bring anybody. No.

So I it was a trap, that question.

So so you leave so you he texts you and he says, Come have dinner. And you're like, w is it did you say yourself, this is weird? No, he was like, I was like, well, maybe I should just go home. He's like, no, no, come have dinner. I was like, okay, cool.

Okay. So you're having dinner and you're thinking to yourself, okay, just another day at McDonald's, no big deal. Yeah. Right? So it's your spot.

Is that correct? We did not. It was not McDonald's. It was actually a Christmas banquet that was. Oh.

It was. Very luxurious.

So that alone, I was like, I'm so glad I'm here right now because I'm starving because there was nothing I can eat at the party. This is amazing.

So you're sitting there and you're eating. I'm gorging myself on seafood.

So you're sloppy. Yeah, just it covered in gristle. Ah, and potatoes? Yeah, exactly, yep.

So, and then. Uh and then he was like let's We were in the Uber home. He's like, let's stop and look at this beautiful tree. We had dinner. Nothing happened.

No. And then he's like, let's go look at this beautiful Christmas tree. And so we went to one of the gorgeous hotels in New York. New York City is magical. Don't you?

Can you tell me what hotel? Yeah, it's a Lottie Palace. And so the tree there is beautiful. St. Patrick's is in the background.

There's Christmas music playing. There's no one in the courtyard. It's called Lottie Palace? Yeah. It used to be the Helmsley Palace.

Oh. Uh I've never been there.

Okay, so very beautiful. You suspect nothing. Nothing. And he's like, Isn't this a perfect night? And I was like, It really is.

This is absolutely beautiful. And it was one of those moments where my heart knew to be still for a second and really just take everything in. And I'm listening to the music and looking at the tree and marveling at St. Patrick's in the background. And then he pulled out a ring and said words, which I couldn't hear because I was squealing because I wasn't expecting it.

And I was like, is this real? Is this moment real? Is this really happening? Don't wake me up if this is a dream, please. And he said, no, it's real.

Wow. And you said, I said, oh, I said, hails to the yes. Absolutely right. All right. And then you made out?

Yeah, just rolled around on the wet concrete. Like, well, it's a great moment. You love sick dogs. Are you going to remember it, or is it already your boy remember? No, I'll remember it forever.

And it was great because there was no pretense, it was just a really beautiful, sweet moment. Moment that happened so organically. There was nothing planned. There was no band. There was no photographer on the bushes.

It was just us, and it was amazing. Could I just say this? There is a little bit of planning. I mean, he picked the spot. He did.

He picked the ring.

So he just had nothing planned. Yes. But in terms of how people oftentimes create a moment with external factors in order to post it. That's right. That doesn't seem like, although I've really gotten to know him or met him, it doesn't seem like the posting tie.

No. Right. Which is one of the things I love about him. that he's not into social media. Yeah.

Right. And you, for example, you do live on social media. I don't live on social media like some people. I. engage in social media, but I'm not you know, there are people who post like ten times a day.

Right. Thank you. That's true. I watched your video. I was up in the middle of the night, couldn't get back to sleep, and I watched a video of you.

And you were like, It's 5:51, and I'm in the elevator, and I don't know if I'm going to make it. And it was, I followed you the whole way into makeup, it was like a five-minute video. I had to go. It was hysterical, right?

So, do you say to yourself, What's happened in my life that I'm watching Brian walk to work? No, I said to myself, It's definitely a conscious choice to not document every single thing I do on social media.

So, by the way, the low-tech, no. Pre-production seems to be what people want. Yeah. I'm just realizing that. Yes.

People want a glimpse into your life. Right. And it's like, I, you know, it's like I put my dog in an Oasis bucket hat the other day. I was like, I might post that. Yeah, my dogs have been abused with social media.

That's all I got because I have a very reluctant family. They have no interest. That's really funny. Yeah, they don't even want to be in the backdrop. I heard they're so embarrassed that they changed their last name to Hannity.

That's true. All right. Could you put that in your new Daily Mail article? Brian Killman is embarrassed, or his family's embarrassed by him. I'm Don Hannity.

Nice to meet you.

Well, I'm pretty sure Ainsley would take offense at that. Yeah. Are we allowed to talk about their relationship now? I think so. Yeah.

I think so. Yeah. I mean, you spend more time with Ainsley than I do. Right. I should.

By a factor of like 15,000. But my problem is, I always am thinking and talking about myself almost all the time.

So I'm not really focused on other people. Right. I think that's what makes me a great radio host. Like, I don't care about other issues that don't have to be a lot of fun. Thank God it's called the Brian Killmeat Show.

Right. It used to be Kill Meet and Friends. And then that was that habit. In a second. Like on your podcast, your podcast, you don't really, you go where the wind blows you.

With you. We were talking about that yesterday because Not everyone can just roll with the tangential punches like you can. Oh, really?

So it's like when you come on my podcast, it's like there is no agenda. And like our conversations take so many turns, which to me is hysterical because you react to everything. Not everyone can do that. Really?

A lot of people, if you just start throwing stuff at them, they pause and don't say anything, which turns out is horrible for a podcast. If you ever do that, also a radio show. The long pauses, like when people think. It panics their control room. You've noticed that.

Yeah, yeah.

So tell me about your live shows. You're going to do a lot of live shows this year, right? Yes. So tell me about where they're going to be. What will we see?

So I'm going to do Red Rock in Las Vegas. Wow. Not the one in Colorado. The one in Las Vegas. It's like 265 capacity.

It's not big. I've got two shows. Um it's either May 8th or 9th. That's going to be super fun. I've got two shows in Norfolk, Nebraska on.

April 10th. We have two stations in Nebraska. Oh, cool.

So that's great. Awesome. Omaha. As well as Uh what's the other station we have? Oh, Lincoln.

Lincoln.

So that's good.

So now you know, go get tickets to Kennedy. And where else are you going to be? In Klamath Falls, Oregon in October, and Reno, Nevada, also in October.

So that's going to be like a full weekend.

So I'm going, I'm going to be your pre-show May 30th. It's the really pretty show.

So I noticed that everyone's like, Reno is a great market for you. Reno is a great market. I go, great.

So we posted it on.

So I have I have two shows, one February 14th in Fort Myers. Should go over a thousand tickets soon, but it's 1700.

So I don't know, like I've been venues to really big.

So, Reno, they go, Brian, you're going to love Reno.

So, I posted, I haven't checked today, but we sold, let me see, one ticket.

So so so not only do I only sell one table but if somebody's going alone.

So, either that or it didn't register well.

So, that's either great news for you because someone really wants to be your friend, or they're really, really mad at you. At least I know that person wants to be there. Yeah. To the point, but or everyone in their life said, You can go, I'm not going. Do you are you selling action figures yet?

No, but I did. Have there was a founding fathers bobblehead series that was mailed to me. And I thought it was interesting, but I didn't know what to do with it. Sell it. Sign it and sell it.

You think so? Yeah. All right, so that's as close to an action figure. To be a real action figure. Uh, solves crimes.

Yeah. And until my action. And you got like weapons and bendable arms. Yeah. Yeah.

And by the way, it's really good for kids when you have the bendable arms and when they start to fray.

So you get this piece of metal wire that sticks out. It's not dangerous at all for three or four year olds. I know, but I was reading something recently about Gen Xers and how dangerous our childhood really was. Yeah. You know, it's like even the impromptu slip-and-slides.

Would throw you into pricker bushes. Like best case scenario. The best case, yeah. I remember running by myself in circles when I was four because you had to entertain yourself, and I slipped and fell because there were a bunch of nails. On the you tripped on a nail.

Yeah, and it went into my knee. And I remember going inside and screaming to my mom, and she was like, What were you doing? And I said, Running with my friends. They were imaginary friends, but you know, kept me in shape. Right.

It's like my audience in retail. And a rusty nail, because my dad just left a box of open nails on the sidewalk in front of our house.

So, why would he do that? Just to make it more dangerous for children? Yeah, exactly.

So, it's interesting. By the way, sticker bushes. I had them all over my house. My whole front of my house was those sticker bushes. It was dangerous.

It was dangerous during the fall. Yes. Can we? Who are we trying to keep out of here? We had a rope swing.

The rope swing didn't go over water. It went over pricker bushes. Yes. What is do we just stop that? Because now it doesn't seem like they're anywhere.

No, they would call child services on you if you did that now. Right. Like there would be a government intervention. Whereas before, like, I broke my ankle. And my dad was like, no, walk it off.

I think it's fine. Just sprain. But, dad, I can't walk. Yeah, I can't. Every time I walk, it makes a crunching sound.

He's like, nah, that's okay. By the way, the helmets that they wore in the NFL are now the type of helmets we wear on a bicycle. I mean, if you go to the Hall of Fame and they're like, look at Johnny United's helmet, it's made of paper-mâché. Right? I mean, they're like, wait, I wouldn't have given up my leather helmet.

So, like, back then, they weren't trying to even protect football players, let alone us. No. So, I'm like, you know, the shot of the guy and the kid in the big wheel going over a ramp without a helmet on. Yeah. I mean, that was crazy.

So, I mean, now they go, why aren't you wearing a helmet right a bike? I'm like, why should I start wearing a helmet now? I'm like, I've survived so long. Maybe I'll get too reckless with a helmet. Yes.

I I've had so many concussions. And uh like this it's the first time this has occurred to me like My parents were really irresponsible. Right. Like maybe they were trying to harm me. I mean, this is one thing that's happening.

I probably should have had a helmet in my just walking around life, like not even on a bike. Right. I know that Eli, I think Peyton Manning, they had this promo up. They I guess Archie. The that taped everything and they put together this great documentary.

But he said. The dad never put the camera down and he just watched as Peyton and Cooper would beat the hell out of each other and then throw little Eli to the ground. And then now they look back and they go, Dad. Put the camera down. Yeah, no kidding.

But back then it was like, keep fighting. Yeah. Well, I mean He was a pretty tough quarterback in his own right. Right. And he got three boys, got to get that energy out somehow.

But I don't think you can compare raising children to a football game. For example, the guys in the other team aren't in your family. You didn't give birth to them. They're just trying to tackle you because you have the ball. Yeah.

Like when you play a key role in having a kid. Like let's say 50% of it. Outside the birth, you it's pretty much 50-50. I think you should take a more active role in protecting them. I know, but maybe he thought these guys have to fend for themselves at some point.

I'm not going to sugarcoat it. I'm not going to wrap them in bubble wrap and hope they don't hit any pointy edges. I'm going to push them into the pointy edges. But look how they turned out. Uh Cooper.

Ends up having a son who might be the best college football quarterback. I think he's hungry. I think he's going to be. And then you have Peyton, who went into the Hall of Fame, if you consider that successful. Super Bowls.

If you count both. Eli, a couple of Super Bowls. If you count both. And then Eli, Borderlines Hall of Famer.

So I don't look at these parents as any. But great parents. I mean, that's okay. Right? Cat Tymph has a very funny word.

uh a term rather for Moms who produce Outstanding athletic children like that. The first word is power, that the mom has a power, and the second word also starts with a P that I can't repeat on the radio. But she says that Donna Kelsey has a power P. And and you could argue that Peyton and Eli Well and Cooper also that their mom has a Power P. Got it.

I think I know exactly what goes on. That's an interesting thing.

So that's Kat's term, but it's very funny. But what's the set, like, where can you use it? I think that's like it's just with friends you can use that term. Like, you can use that on stage? Yes.

Oh. I told Kat she should use that on stage because it's a very funny story. Right. Great. She's like, say what you will about how annoying Travis Kelsey is, Donna Kelsey.

Right. Some really, you find him annoying, Travis? Yes. Why? Um and the Fame whore, meathead.

You know.

Okay, I have a different take. I think he's a phenomenal tight end. He's a Hall of Famer. But just the, I know too much about him, and he dresses like. A rich slob.

My take? I judge you about how things would, how you act when things are going bad this year is terrible. Strip refusing to talk to the press, storming out, yelling at his quarterback, screaming at his coach at the Super Bowl. Those are the things that bother me. I agree with all of that.

Thank you. Yes. Kennedy, I enjoyed our time together. Brian, this has been the highlight of my day. Right.

Now I'm going to go beyond outnumbered. Right, but this is the first thing you've done, in fairness to me. I haven't been up as long as you have. That's true. Congratulations.

Thank you so much. It'll be a special year. Back to a moment. Illuminating. Intriguing.

Inculcating. I know some of these words. It's Brian Killmead. The more you listen, the more you'll know. It's Brian Kilmead.

We need it for national protection. We need Greenland for national protection. They have a very small population. And I don't know, they say Denmark, but Denmark has spent no money. They have no military protection.

They say that Denmark was there 300 years ago or something with a boat.

Well, we were there with boats too, I'm sure. I love that. They were there 300 years ago. Yeah, everybody was everywhere. I mean, Spain was everywhere running Texas.

Portugal was running Brazil, I guess. That's why they speak Portuguese. I can't really go over all the different colonies that were happening, but it's true. They relinquished control. Why is Denmark still holding on to Greenland?

And the people, the more I looked into Greenland, these people are really unhappy with Denmark. They don't get any of the infrastructure that they were promised. But what move do they have?

Well, the U.S.

now comes. Comes in and says, well, take it.

Now that's caused Greenland to come out and say, well, we have pride in ourselves. We want our autonomy. We don't want to be owned by anybody. But we should go and Instead of just making the announcement from DC or Florida, we should go in there and say, look, let's have an emergency meeting. Uh what what do you need?

You got 60,000 people in a country this size, and excuse me, a landmass this size. This is where your infrastructure is, this is where your rare earth is, this is what we could do, this is what we want to do with our base, and this is how we want to expand it. I don't necessarily think we need to, you know, own it, but we can run it. Coming up next, Nate Foyle will bring us into the latest breaking news around the New York area and beyond. And we'll find out: will we get Greenland?

I don't think the president's going to give up on this.

So at some point, Denmark's got to come to the table. At some point, Greenland's got to come to the table. Governor Landry now will be our envoy there. I say he gets it. Don't move.

If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. Hey, welcome back, everybody. It's Brian Killmeat Show moving through on a Christmas Eve. If you're waiting to go shopping, today would be the day.

I don't think you should wait anymore. I don't want to tell you how to live your life, but if you are looking for last-minute gifts, this is called The Last Minute. Special thanks to Kennedy for coming by with me in studio. If you're smart enough to watch the stream, and I hope you are. Nate Foy, one of Fox's two rising stars, Fox News correspondent, but you also see him anchoring out, Fox and Friends First.

And Nate, great to see you. Great to be here. Thank you for having me. I want to get the story that you were just doing on CBS. I do want to dive into right away.

But first, tell everybody how you got here. Tell everyone how you got to Fox.

So I always wanted to be a broadcaster, but initially it was sports broadcasting, similar to yourself. Started doing that in market 206. At the time, there were 211 markets, so it was the fifth smallest registered market in the entire country. St. Joseph, Missouri.

Okay. Went there for a year, got a job in Fort Myers, Florida.

So sports was going great. Sports was great. For you to do that, put together a tape and get a job the next year. Year shows you doing well. It was going well.

I loved doing it. Honestly, the reason why I switched was I was kind of looking at the sports media landscape. And when I was growing up, it was a lot of highlight-driven shows, and then the model kind of changed. And it was a lot of beautiful women surrounded by former professional athletes. And I was like, there's less jobs available.

So then I switched to news and found a love for news in the process, made that transition in Fort Myers, Florida, did some local news reporting in the middle of the year. Did you think it hired as a sports guy? Initially, yes.

So it was a duopoly. It was. ABC and NBC For ABC, when I first got there, I was the sports guy, and then they moved me to NBC, and I was the news guy, initially in like a hybrid role. And then I got promoted pretty quickly to news anchoring and did that for four or five years, and then somehow convinced the people here to give me a job.

So, before we do that, what sports were you covering in Fort Myers? Everything. High school, a bunch of high school, football, basketball, volleyball, everything. Because high school, isn't high school football in Florida like Friday Night Lights in Texas? It's very different.

So I grew up in Massachusetts. It's very different speed. The people there, like every single team has a couple kids that play major Division I sports. And for me, there was like one kid every 10 years in my town that would get a massive scholarship. Yeah.

You know, I was Central Mass, Westboro, Massachusetts. We only had a handful of really good athletes, but every single team had kids going to Clemson, Pitt. You know, there's a couple of guys in the NFL now. It was pretty cool covering that. Right.

And places we sold out, 3,000 people, 5,000 weekends? Watching the football. Watching the football? I'd say, honestly, the fans weren't that great.

Okay. That's different from Texas. Yeah, very different from Texas in that way, for sure.

So you started doing news. You loved it more, or you just thought that was a better path?

Well, initially, I just thought it was a better path. And then I actually found that I loved it more. And one of the reasons why maybe you experienced this as a sports broadcaster yourself, I was doing all these, like I said, local high school games. And in the process, I was missing, say, a Boston Celtics game or a New England Patriots game. I was like, I'm missing the sports I actually care about to cover the sports that I don't necessarily care about quite as much.

So I felt like I was losing my hobby a little bit. And then I made the transition to news. And I feel like it kind of forced me to grow up a little bit and understand how the world works. It's also less driven by clichés. You know, you ask a coach, you get the same answer over and over again.

It's just different players, different coaches, but it's the same sports. There's no Senator Kennedy. There's no Senator Kennedy. Yeah. I mean, you do have some characters in whatever you're covering, but I just learned so much more.

Covering news, and I feel like I kind of got my hobby back in the process.

So, four years of Fort Myers, you sent you tape in, or your agent sent you tape in, and they loved you?

Well, I got the luckiest story that any guy has ever had.

So a friend of mine from college, his dad, owns a restaurant. You actually may know Lee Lipton. He owns Benny's on the Beach. Fox and Friends has done shows from Benny's on the Beach in Lake Florida.

So, I'm friends with his son, Dylan, and Dylan had just sent Lee my tape without me asking or knowing. And then Shari Berg went into his restaurant and he knew who she was. And he just went right up to her and he was like, Hey, check out my son's friend. He's a local newscaster in Fort Myers. She was like, Oh, he's actually pretty good.

Like, let me talk to him.

So, that's how I got my foot in the door here. Yeah. How did they know? Like, Sherry Berg is a huge, huge executive here. Great story.

But how would she recognize her? I'm not sure if he recognized her or maybe had a relationship with her beforehand. He's tight with a few people here, or if he was just kind of making the rounds, how's your breakfast? How's everything going? Where did you come from?

What do you do? I'm not exactly sure how that went.

So, Sherry looked at it, liked it, and next thing you know?

So, next thing I know, I had an interview with Fox Weather. And then, during the interview with Fox Weather, I thought I ruined the entire thing because at the very end, they asked if I had a question. And I told them, Hey, listen, if you make an offer for me, I will. Yeah. Obsess over weather for the next, however long the contract is.

But I'd be lying if I told you that my goal is anything other than eventually being a Fox News anchor.

So, what's the culture like within the company to switch departments if I prove myself at Fox Weather? And the guy who was running the interview, he was like, you know, why would we offer you if you're already looking at the door? And he said that? Yeah. So it kind of ended awkwardly, and I could not sleep that entire night.

I thought that I ruined my shot. And then the next day, one of the executives here reached out over email and said, hey, we have a different role in mind for you. She was listening to that email on Zoom, but didn't speak at all.

So I didn't even realize that she was there. And then she reached out and she was like, we're going to start you over on the interview process on the news side. And then like seven or eight interviews later, I got the job. Oh, wow. That is so cool.

That shows you. I mean, there's no format.

So many people say, how do you get into it? There's just no way to, there's no organized way to do it. Like J.P. Morgan, I'm going to start. I'm going to intern, and then I'm going to go to J.P.

I'm going to work my way up the ladder. It's much different in our business, don't you think? I do. And I think for me, it was an example of communicating what you want. And, you know, I wanted to do that up front.

And then once I'm in the door, I kind of shut my mouth and just work hard. And I've already let them know what I want out of it. And then kind of just trust them to do their thing. And then just try to develop myself and get as many experiences as I can. And so far, you're great.

And then you were anchored the other day, right? Fox and Friends?

So I just anchored for my first time Fox and Friends First on December 8th. I'm anchoring tomorrow between 9 a.m. and noon. All right. And then Friday, 9 to 11.

Wait, so 9 to noon? You're on for three hours? Yeah. Okay, that's interesting because it must be a weekend format then. Because 9 to 11 is Hammer and Dana usually.

So, yeah, tomorrow will be Fox News Live, which is the weekend format. And then Friday will be America's Newsroom. Oh, that's awesome.

So you must be pumped up for that. I'm really excited. Yeah, it's a dream come true.

So, Nate, let's talk about what you were working on a couple of days ago, and because I'm pretty amazed by this.

So, Barry Weiss takes over CBS. She's not a conservative. She's not really, she's kind of in the middle. If you watch, if you listen to what she's doing now in the free press, listen to her podcast, takes over CBS. I know it's going to be pushback.

But from the institutionalists, more traditionalists, the Scott Pelleys of the world, and these reporters, they don't seem happy that she's there. They don't seem happy in the morning show that she's there. And then, in 60 minutes, she sees this story about Seacott Prison that is going to say that the Trump administration is sending illegal immigrants to Seacott Prison and that they're going through horrible abuse and horrible treatment. She looks at this story and says, It's not ready to go. You got to get the administration to weigh in on this.

It's got to be balanced. And she also added, You're not moving the story forward. You did this story already. What's new about it? Yeah.

And what was the ramification to that?

Well, you know, I think something that's been lost in this is that she is planning on airing the story. People are saying that she's going to just kill the story and that she's a puppet for the Trump administration, which is not true. She said right off the bat, this story is going to air. It's just going to need a little bit more work before it does. And, you know, Sharon Alfonse, the reporter who put the thing together.

Her position is that she already reached out to the administration. She was a little vague in her wording of whether or not it was sort of like an email, hey, what's your comment, or if it was actually an opportunity to get on the record on camera and give their perspective of the story. But as I'm sure you know, a version, the version that was suppressed for the time being, actually aired in Canada, so you could kind of watch. The bootleg version of it. And it's from most reports one-sided.

And, you know, there a lot of people would say should be the Trump administration's perspective because otherwise it's kind of a hit piece. Or whatever that is, right? Yeah. And from the Trump administration's perspective, they're probably thinking, so it's a hit piece. And then at the very end, you'll say, you know, here's what the Trump administration said, which isn't very effective.

And, you know, it still is a hit piece.

So, yeah, that's essentially what happened. And it will be interesting to see how the Trump administration cooperates now and if a voice from the Trump administration, possibly Stephen Miller, is included in this newest version.

So I was talking to some of the administration and they didn't get reached out to later. And they also thought to themselves, Include the angel moms, people that have lost their lives to legal alien immigrants in this country. And they didn't want to. And Barry Weiss says, No, I want you. This is the new wrinkle.

He's like, No, I want you to include the angel moms in this.

So why wouldn't you want it balanced out? They are reluctant. Put it this way, Date. You and I are from the same From the same mindset, I think. You have a news director, you go out and say, This is what I think, and they say, Well, I think you're wrong.

They ultimately make the decision.

So, imagine if the news director is also the owner, like he runs the place.

So, they put a person in charge and they tell you what to do. You might be convinced, like a coach might be convinced that the GM is wrong. But in the end, you work the GM hired, you got to answer the question.

So, to me, either you quit. Or shut your mouth and do it. Totally. Or you go to bat behind closed doors. You don't go to another news outlet or post something against your company.

I don't know where that mindset comes from. Yeah. I mean, I can't even imagine doing that. I can imagine being upset privately, to your point, but making it public is something that I can't even relate to at all. But this happens all the time in newsrooms where stories are deemed not ready for air.

And then, you know, to your point, there should be an effort to tell all sides of the story. And, you know, as a journalist, we're always calibrating our own biases. And, you know, you really want to make sure that that doesn't come through in the piece.

So even if you feel a certain way, I think anybody would agree, no matter how you feel about the topic of immigration, that it's a complex issue. And if you're against, you know, the Seacott prison and the treatment of the people there, then sure, you can make that point in your story, but you also need to make the point of why it was necessary in the first place. and the crisis that led to it.

So the other thing is, it reminds me of Ron McDaniel got hired in NBC. And Chuck Todd, and everybody else said, I can't believe you hired her because she lied about the 2020 election in their view.

So she was the four RC chair. She just left her job. She'd be a great to have that perspective.

Well, there was such an uproar, they decided they're not going to have her on anymore. Yeah. And they gave her such a hard time in her first interview, and now she's suing Because you just fired her and stopped her from doing other things, and now she's stopped from doing other things because she's in the middle of a lawsuit and she has to prove that it's harmed her career. And then you have you know you have other examples of people not happy with their company, like uh Joy Reid got fired by uh MSNBC. And you have these other hosts ripping MSNBC's management.

I don't know. Do you know anybody else? Oh, I'm going to go destroy my vice president? Uh, publicly, I mean, we get fired if we did that in a bar, overheard in a bar. Yeah, and we should.

I don't know, like, I don't understand the mindset. It's just not knowing your place, right? I mean, you know, our job is to execute the news in an ethical way and an accurate way. Our job is not to comment on the leadership of the network broadly. And the fact that these people are doing that is crazy.

And the fact that they're not willing to let the best idea win is even crazier, that they don't actually want to engage in some of these debates, regardless of somebody's history on a particular topic. If somebody has the experience to have a valuable perspective, bring them in. And if you dislike their perspective so much, then win in the argument. Yeah. I'm stunned by what's going on, but how do you think this whole thing plays out?

I mean, Scott Pelley publicly said that Barry Weiss was wrong not to watch this ahead of time and wait until the last minute, and she should take her job more seriously.

So I'm not saying you're going to call for everything, but in your projection, how do you think this plays out? I don't know how the parties coexist if the anchors are telling the The president of news, how unhappy they are with that person. I don't. I have a prediction. I have a prediction that a lot of these guys are going to leave, and they think that the ratings are going to go with them.

I don't think they will. Yeah, I would agree with that. I'd say I have no idea what's going to happen, but I don't think that there's going to be like a major shuffle in the next couple of weeks or anything like that. But I think that, you know. Over time in in the The medium-term future, you could see a lot of these people sort of phase out, get a new crop of correspondence in.

You already see Weiss is hiring some new talent.

Sort of, you know, remaking the news department to try to engender a bit more trust from the viewers. Just balance it. Don't be a conservative network. Don't be a liberal network. That's what I think she's saying.

That's what I'm trying to do.

So I'd be stunned if that's going to be allowed to continue. And the piece is going to air.

So when it comes out, we'll all watch it. I would wager that it's not going to be propaganda for the Trump administration. Yeah, it's going to be: why are you sending these innocent illegal immigrants to a terrible prison in El Salvador? But they believe almost the entire percentage is illegal immigrant criminals who they have trouble legally sending back to their country. They won't be taken.

So El Salvador says, for the right price, we'll take them and we'll put them in prison.

So that's an issue.

So I guess we're going to see what's going to happen with that situation. But I also am very curious to see if things are going to change wholeheartedly. If you look at the Washington Post editorial section, it used to be Mark Thiessen and Everybody Hates Trump.

Now you look at it, and I have to look twice. Three or four columnists are conservative columnists who have a perspective. Not every conservative columnist, maybe 50, 50, like Trump. It's okay. But at least you give him a shot.

So I think you can read the editorial section of the Washington Post and see a balance. I think that's a good sign. Oh, it's a great sign. I mean, I can tell you that, you know, from a guy who graduated college, what, 11 years ago. I felt like for a lot of my young adult life, you really had to seek out a conservative perspective.

If you didn't, you just never got it. Never got it.

So I think that it's helpful that, you know, in these sort of mainstream publications, that if you're a new news consumer and the Washington Post, obviously, everyone's heard of.

So it's like, let me check out their editorial section. The fact that you can easily find these conservative perspectives, whether or not you agree with them, is healthy for our country. All right. We're going to see you all week, all weekend, the rest of the week, right?

So we're going to watch your 9 to 3 tomorrow. And then Friday is 9 to 11. Nate Foyd, Fox News Nationally Corresponding. Great job, Nate. Before we leave, can we play a little of Nate singing us out for the Christmas party?

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Welcome to 48th and 6th of Midtown Manhattan. That's where I'm coming from, where people are coming from everywhere. I mean, as I mentioned the last few days, I cannot believe what a tourist attraction Arthur Christmas tree is. Rockefeller Plaza has been around doing the same thing with the V spruce tree for, I don't know, over 100 years, probably. You got the skating rink here.

Place is packed. I'm not sure who's buying anything, but a lot of little stores have popped up. Wow, so you do really get a sense of Christmas this year, more than any other year since the pandemic, in my view.

So, gonna be a big final hour on this Christmas Eve, and thanks so much for tuning in all week long. We got Adam Hunter, one of America's funniest comedians, and Carl Rove, one of America's most insightful political minds, in a moment.

So, let's get to the big three first. Number three. If we do the quick math, nine billion in fraud divided by five point seven nine million Minnesotans comes out to roughly be $1,500 a person that each Minnesotan, each hardworking Minnesotan, has had stolen from them from the Walls administration. That is Mayor, one of the 100 mayors in Minneapolis who are outraged because Governor Waltz was looking the other way, as Minneapolis was literally robbed of their social spending, especially Medicaid spending, by many in the Somali community. In fact, most that were indicted from Somalia.

Why did they let this happen? We'll discuss it. Number two. Maduro's been in power for 12 years. You've got to give Trump time here.

If we allow this to take a little time, ultimately, I think the goal here is to win. The war, the regime changed without firing a shot. And Trump is beautifully playing this right now. That's Mike Sorelli, retired Navy CL, talking about what's happening in Venezuela. Maduro, in my view, start packing.

Indications are Trump's ready to rid Venezuela of their illegitimate dictator. I'll tell you how he's raising the stakes. Number one, this is the golden age coming. 4.3% this quarter means Americans on average are making more money, more money in their pocketbooks. That makes for a great Christmas.

The economy is showing signs of soaring as we close out 2025. We go over the stunning numbers that we see when the rise of consumer confidence will go along with it. And Carl Rove joins us now. Carl, welcome back. Thank you, my friend.

Merry Christmas. Back at you. Before we go, the numbers that the president goes to celebrate with are really one to celebrate. You look at the GDP growing at 4.3%. They picked up from three point eight percent the previous quarter, easily built the forecast of three point two percent.

And then you have corporate earnings that are extremely high and other indications that the economy is doing quite well. What are your thoughts?

Well, first of all, let's be clear, really good numbers. They were really good numbers for two reasons. One is spending by the upper 10 to 20 percent of the population, and then some decisions that had been made with regard to international trade. To make this sustainable, we've got to broaden this prosperity, and that means that as the effects of the look, we can't depend on the top 10 and 20 percent continuing to power the economy at this rate. But the broad-based tax cuts that were in the big, beautiful bill, in essence, the renewal of the 2017 tax cuts, are going to help people as we go into the new year.

And while we can't sustain 4.5 percent GDP growth, we can have it in the 3 percent range, and that's very strong and very good. And it's going to be possible because the broader impact of the tax cuts.

So, I want you to hear Howard Luttnick yesterday. He says, compare this to the rest of the world, cut six. The whole world out there in the third quarter, the United Kingdom grew 0.1, the European Union grew 0.4, and Japan fell 0.6%, fell 0.6%. Donald Trump's economy grew, the United States of America, the biggest economy in the world, 4.3%. What that means is that Americans all Overall, all of us are going to earn 4.3% more money.

So, I mean, he's a cheerleader. I got it, and there's nothing wrong with that as Commerce Secretary. But I think the best thing to do now, USMCA, go recut the deal. We had to study the last one, NAFTA got updated, so now that evaporated.

So, if you want to give these businesses more predictability, go redo that deal, right?

Well, or just affirm it. We actually have a pretty good deal in place. And just you know, lock it in. You know, it's really important for us to have stability in our trading partners, our relationship with our big trading partners. And look, Put it in context.

We produce 25% of the world's economy, of all the economy in the world. 25% is here. We're 5% of the world's population. We hold half of the world's wealth.

Now, having said that, let's not do the mistake that Joe Biden made. Remember when Joe Biden kept going around saying Bidenomics is working and people didn't feel it? We've got to temper the administration's rhetoric. It's got to be weird. We have a big hole to dig our way out of, left to us by the previous administration.

We have a lot of work to do. Things are starting to get better, but the best is yet to come if we stick at what we're doing, which is controlling the spending, cutting the taxes in a pro-growth way, encouraging the growth of our economy, particularly when it comes to trade. And, you know, but under-promise and over-delivered. That ought to be the. We can't win this debate today.

We can't say, oh, everything's great, and don't you feel? Because that's not where people are. But if it keeps going in this direction, they're going to feel increasingly positive about the economy.

So have confidence. We have 11 months before the midterms. Under promise and over-deliver.

So the one thing I heard that Senator Kennedy keeps saying is that they're just you do another reconciliation bill focused on housing. He said, get it together. He goes, you'll get enough momentum behind it. Is that something you would put you would back? You know, look, you do reconciliation when you have something that you know that everybody agrees on so you can pass it with 51 bills and it fits within the reconciliation rules.

We aren't there yet. Please describe to me what it is in the reconciliation bill that's going to solve our housing problem. I mean, look, we couldn't even pass a permitting bill that, in essence, removes unnecessary government rules and regulation and constraint upon big manufacturing and energy development and minerals development projects. We couldn't get that passed.

So I hear Senator Kennedy. I understand where he's coming from. But please, what is it that the federal government can do to help encourage housing? For example, give you two examples, one good and one bad. The bad one is we have a tariff on Canadian lumber.

Now softwood lumber, which is used in American home construction. And we did it on the basis of national security concerns.

Now, how that fits, I don't know. Last time we built a warship out of wood was like in the 1860s.

So if we took that tariff off, it would reduce the cost of lumber that would go into a housing, thereby reducing housing and making it more accessible. The good thing is a lot of communities are starting to look at their rules and regulations regarding development and saying, why are we making it more difficult for people to build housing and more expensive for them to build housing? And we, you know, even, you know, sort of liberal enclaves, here, I live in Austin, Texas. You talk about, it's Moscow on the little Colorado River. But even here in a liberal town, they're thinking, why do we have all these rules and regulations and these delays in allowing people to build housing that local residents can afford?

And I think that's a healthy movement, and it's happening all across the country.

So to your point, consumer confidence actually. Went down this month.

So it was at 91 percent. It went down to 89.2 percent. It doesn't help when 60 of 61 economists at Bloomberg predict that the economy is going to suffer in 2025, and they were wrong. It doesn't help when Goldman Sachs twice said that we're heading towards a recession. That doesn't help, does it?

No, it doesn't. It does not. We've got to place this in perspective. Yes, these were great numbers, and yes, those economists were wrong. I mean, you know, economists are sort of like lawyers.

On the one hand, this and on the other hand, that. But we have the makings of a strong economy. We just need to stay at it. We had some unusual circumstances that made the 4.3% better than expected and strong. Let's not kid ourselves that we're not going to be able to necessarily repeat that again.

But we can have above-trend growth if we stay focused on pro-growth policies. The administration, for example, is doing a terrific job behind the scenes of getting rid of the regulatory burden imposed upon us by the Biden administration. Think about this. The Biden administration, and I'm going to be off on the number, it may be like a trillion eight in additional burden on the economy in four years. That is twice as much as was done by Obama in eight years.

And this administration, which in its first President Trump and its first. First term undid a lot of the unnecessary red tape and regulatory excesses. His people are quietly going about that work again, and that's going to help next year. Understood. I want to go over to Venezuela and what our objective is.

We have now put, they say, a CV-22 Osprey tilt rotor aircraft, which are used by Special Operation Forces, have flown into the region. Uh from Cannon Air Force Base in New Mexico. I was talking to a special operator already. He says, No, there's special ops that are now on these ships ready to go. Here's what Marco Rubio said yesterday, cut 15.

The current status quo with the Venezuelan regime is intolerable for the United States. The status quo, that they operate and cooperate with terrorist organizations against the national interest of the United States, not just cooperate, but partner with and participate in activities that threaten the national interest of the United States.

So yes, our goal is to change that dynamic.

So it's intolerable the status quo.

So you've seen these standoffs before. You're also not naive to the downside, should something happen. Your thoughts? Her co op.

Well, I think the administration is pushing this policy appropriately. I think Secretary Rubio is exactly right. This is a threat to the United States' security interests. We have a regime that openly participates with our enemies, and not only that, but is illegitimate. When the international community, almost to every nation, says the last several elections have been illegitimate, you know something's wrong with the people who are in power there.

And it is in our national interest to have this vital part, this vital part of our hemisphere to be governed by a government that is democratic. and legitimate. Representative of its people and a friend and ally of the United States. They have the largest reserves of oil in the world. Why would we not want that to be in the hands of friends of the United States rather than adversaries of the United States?

And I think the administration is playing this well. I bet you that in the coming year, Maduro is out of power and democracy and freedom returns to Venezuela. And when it does, Donald Trump and Marco Rubio are going to have been the architects of it. No question. But people get worried about Libya.

They see Libya. They see the regime change. It's still chaotic there. They worry about some other situations. Mike Pompeo, I asked him, what is our responsibility?

He's a former Secretary of State, Siega. What is our responsibility should Maduro go? Cut 25. It'll be the Venezuelan people's responsibility, but there's many things we can do to support them. Most importantly, we can help rebuild what's been a disastrous set of policies about their economy that's destroyed their capacity to thrive, which is their oil sector.

So American companies can come in and sell their products. Schlumberger, Halliburton, Chevron, all our big energy companies can go down to Venezuela, build out an economic capitalist model which will restore Venezuela to what it was. Brian, you and I remember it was a great economy for so long, and this knucklehead has destroyed it.

So and the thing is, I guess he he feels as though if he lasts this long, I think something's got to let him know that you you could either go to Belarus, Turkey, Moscow, or you could end up in jail the rest of your life.

Somehow that's got to be given him he's got to be given that choice. Yeah, well, first of all, three things. Venezuela was once the democracy, the democratic and prosperous example of what the Western Hemisphere could be, of what South America could be. And they were once prosperous. They're the most prosperous nation in South America.

And what happened was along came two despots, Maduro and his predecessor, Hugo Chavez, and they ruined the economy, destroyed the freedoms, and centralized it, centralized the authority in the government. The third thing is, is Remember how he stays in power. He ships cheap oil to Cuba, and in return, the Cuban secret intelligence services provide him the bodyguards and security apparatus to keep him in power and the military guidance to keep his military under his thumb and again to keep him in power.

So, by breaking the flow of cheap oil from Venezuela to Cuba, we're pressuring not only the Cubans, but we're also pressuring the Venezuelans because they can no longer afford to pay the Cubans.

So, again, it's going to take time to roll out. There are going to be lots of opportunities to go sideways. And I think Secretary Pompeo is absolutely right. It's going to take American involvement to help them through that difficult period. But the Venezuelans turned out in the last several elections and overwhelmingly voted to throw Maduro out of power.

And he had to dummy up the election returns in order to claim that he could stay in power, so gross that he. even the international community rejected his claim to power. No question. Lastly, J.D. Vance got the endorsement of Turning Point USA's Erica Kirk and probably.

That whole, you know, all the people that attended, 30,000 plus and maybe people watching around the country. Is it his nomination to lose? Yeah. Well, look, it was a great get for him, particularly since the Turning Point announced that it was going to organize all 99 counties in Iowa for him. And J.D.

Vance is smart enough to know there are several geological ages that are going to come and go before the 2028 contest frames up. The Mesozoic, the Paleozoic, the Jurassic. And he's smart enough to know, don't take it for granted. Yes, vice presidents of sitting presidents tend to have, if they want the nomination, they get it. It was 1960, Richard Nixon wanted the Republican nomination, he got it.

1968, Hubert Humphrey wanted the Democratic nomination. LBJ was leaving office. He got it. 1988, George H.W. Bush wanted Ronald Reagan's slot, and he got the Republican nomination.

2000, Al Gore. You see a pattern developing here? Having said that, only twice in American history has been a Roman Republic. As the sitting vice president succeeded the president in whose administration he served, Martin Van Buren in 1836 and George H.W. Bush in 1988.

And Vance is smart enough to know that there's a lot between now and 2028 that could make that nomination both his or not his and worth having or not having. He's focused on trying to make it worth having. And how Trump finishes could really help J.D. Vance if he finishes strong, right? And he is a player in the administration.

Carl Rove, always great, insightful. We love having you on. Thanks so much, Carl. Have a great Christmas. You too, buddy.

Merry Christmas to you and yours. You got it. Back in a moment, and Adam Hunter at the bottom of the hour. Don't move. It's Brian Killmade.

Breaking news. Unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Show. I'm Santa Claus's brother. Yeah, I got a lot of stuff going on.

Uh, because Ben. Is this a joke to you? You and I gotta frog hold. All right, Steven, easy, easy, all right. Steven, easy.

That's not Alec.

Okay, that's not Alec. That's not Alec.

There's a movie out called Fred Claus. It shows Santa with a brother, Fred. He's very tall, a lot taller than Santa. A lot of people don't think there is a Fred clause, there's only a Santa Claus. Do you have a brother, Fred?

No brother Fred, but it was an excellent movie. Right. Can you explain to us? Thank you for that. I agree.

It's my favorite movie, but you did burst my bubble.

So that was a little disappointing. Last night I interviewed Sand on Laura Ingram Show, filling in. And I think, and I think you agree with me, Pete, that was a fantastic scene when Brothers of Famous Brothers went into a group therapy, and that was Stephen Baldwin saying, trying to overcome Alec Baldwin. It was brilliantly written. Roger Clinton?

Uh trying to overcome Bill Clinton. And Frank's Tallone. Nuck said. The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead.

There are a lot of good humans here. There are a lot of people who mean well and try to love their neighbor. It's not a productive institution, but the Intelligence Committee, where I spent most of my time in the Senate, is a very special place. But this is a passion. This education issue is something that you're going to be writing about and talking about.

Yes, and amen. I mean, we are blessed to have inherited the greatest structure of government. Government is the center of life, but the constitutional system is the greatest government anybody's ever received. And as Ronald Reagan said, you don't pass it on in the bloodstream. You pass it on because you teach it.

You teach it. Civics, you teach literacy, you teach math. Turns out you need algebra to get through life, and we owe our kids better than we're giving them right now. And that, of course, is Senator Ben Sass, who told us the news, horrible news yesterday through a long, very heartfelt letter that he's got pancreatic cancer and he's got a death sentence. It's stage four.

He looks fantastic. I watched him with Brett two weeks ago. He looks very healthy. And then I know he's an athlete at 53 years old after I think eight years. He decides I'm not going to go back to the Senate.

He ran the University of Florida and just a great guy. He's been in our studio before, interviewed him multiple times. I think he did a very good job, very deep thinker. I know after 2020, he was not on the Trump trend anymore and thought, you know what, that's the future of the party. I'm probably better off not doing it.

And he was probably right.

So I don't think anyone I ever heard talk bad about him. And I think he's just very effective, and he says he was on the intelligence committee, and those people were very serious, as you just heard.

So, real serious news. Pancreatic cancer stage four. He said, I'm going to do everything for treatment, but think about going into Christmas. Just when you think you have problems and you think you have a lot on your mind and a lot to worry about, then someone like Ben Sass, who seems to have everything, great family, great career, already served our country. Deep thinker, great writer.

And then you find out uh pancreatic cancer. And I don't know how you get that. You know, to me, You know, if you go out and you're not, you know, you're drinking a lot and you're abusing your body and something like that happens, you go, well, you made choices. I look at this guy. And he seems to have done everything right.

So I don't know how you get that. I'm sure there's a lot of medical people listening to me right now and saying there's certain things you can do, certain things are environmental, certain things you inherit. But that was real sobering news. And I know we've got two great stations in Nebraska. And we know what Nebraska thinks of Senator Ben Sass.

If he ran again, he would have won. No doubt about it.

So um We're going to wait for Adam Hunter to join us, comedian. You always watch him on Gutfell. But in the meantime, the one thing I want to bring up is some of the brawling that's going on. with uh comedians. And Bill Maher is somebody who's come out and said the wacky left has gotten wacky.

I'm a liberal. I don't vote for Trump, but I will go meet with Trump. I will have Republicans on and let them talk. I'll have Democrats on and let them talk. And I will call them out.

The DEI has got to stop. The political correctness has got to go. The men and women's sports should never be tolerated. The bathroom thing, of course, if you consider yourself a trans individual, you don't go into that locker room of the opposite sex. With all that logical stuff that we said.

Is just common sense. He was saying.

Well, some people are upset by that. including Dave Chappelle. And Dave Chappelle now is calling out Bill Maher.

Now Bill Morris, his show is on hiatus until January. He's got a podcast he might answer. But listen to this exchange. Bill Maher, the famous comedian. I've known Bill since I was like 18, 19 years old, and I've never said this publicly, but f that guy.

I'm so fine. I'm tired of this little smug, cracker-ass commentary. These are Act like because I did a comedy festival in Saudi Arabia, I somehow betrayed my principles.

Well, look First of all, what do they say? They said, well, Saudi Arabia killed a journalist. And rest in peace, Jamal Khashoggi, I'm sorry that he got murdered in such a heinous fashion. But. And I would bust like, you know, period, and also.

I mean, look, bro, look Israel's killed 240 journalists.

Okay, a couple of things. I 100%, I don't condemn anyone from going to Saudi Arabia. At the point now, I mean, it was right after 9-11. I go, what are you doing? Even though the government wasn't involved, the hijackers were mostly Saudi.

Got it. But since that time, you have a Saudi government that's doing the best it can with the culture and background that it has to move itself into more market-oriented, more educational, less ideological, no more terrorist curriculum. They kick out terrorists like we arrest them, they do too.

Now, look, I'm not saying I can go over the judicial system there. There's severe punishments, and if you come out against the government, it's not like here. will actually hail you know put you in office here.

So I know it's not a democracy, but man, they've gotten better. And what they've done involved in sports, if you see with the World Cup, Qatar hosted, Saudis played a big role in bringing the Abraham Accords to fruition. They're probably next once things settle down and get more of a path to peace in Gaza. And then you see the Live launching. They have a lot of they're sponsoring soccer teams, professional soccer teams.

They got individual oligarchs they're buying teams that you're probably watching on Sunday mornings. And The very good terms to the president of the United States. You're a comedian, you want to go to Saudi Arabia, go do it. I really mean it. And find out another culture.

If you don't want to go, you know, Pete Davidson, whose dad was killed on 9-11, he appeared. in Saudi Arabia.

So, I guess Bill Maher might have said something about Dave Chappelle because of that. But just say about that. But there's nothing Bill Maher did wrong by calling out Uh uh by sitting there calling out some of the ridiculous goings on with his with his own party while not abandoning his party. Joining us now is Adam Hunter. Adam, I don't want to put you, you're a comedian, but comedians are fighting comedians these days.

What is your take on Dave Chappelle going at Bill Moore? Um You know, it wasn't.

Okay. I didn't really like it because he didn't really specifically go after him for, like, you know, here's 10 things you did. It was just like, I'm sick of this pretentious dumbass. You know, like, it was sort of like very vague about what he said, to be honest. You know, um, And it wasn't that he went to Saudi Arabia.

I think it was that he was, Bill Maher was saying you were funded by the royal family, or not the royal family, by. Um By the guy in charge o over there that Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The MBS. That was the problem because I've been to Saudi Arabia. I did comedy in Saudi Arabia, but it wasn't by MBS.

But I don't. I didn't think it was um And that was crazy over there. That was actually nuts when I did comedy over there because it was actually a lot of fun. It was very nice. I did Doha, I did Saudi, I did Egypt.

And at the end, they wanted to take pictures in Doha. People were covered head to toe. And I asked Russell Peters while I was with, and I was like, How do we know if they're going to laugh? I can't see some of these women. I can't see them.

And he was like, You'll just see their body move. And that was exactly right. That's what happened. You could just, and then, and then at the, you know. And Sony, you can't put, if you put your arm around a girl, you go to jail.

Like, really? Like, for a long time, like, for a long time. You hug her, even you. Even in America. Anybody.

You're not allowed to put your arm around a girl, you can go to jail, but um, and then they want to take pictures.

So I was like, yeah, but then I was like, can I take a picture of me with you guys? They're like, no, because we'll be recognized. And I'm like, how are they gonna recognize you? You're covering like, oh, trust me, we will be recognized.

So it was like a wild, different experience over there. But no, I think that he's singling out Bill Maher. As far as that, and I didn't like what Chappelle did. As far as, you know, I'm not a big fan of Chappelle's politics. I'm a fan of his comedy.

But You know, luckily, it's America. It's freedom of speech. He's allowed to say whatever he wants. I mean, that's what's great about this country is that you're allowed to say whatever you want. But remember, they tried to cancel him.

He was the first one who stared down the cancel culture. And remember, Netflix didn't want to air it, and these guys were going to protest if you aired Dave Chevelle's comedy because he wasn't kind enough to the trans community, however you want to judge that. I thought he would understand Bill Maher more than any other comedian, more than any other high-profile comedian, Adam. Yeah, I mean um Yeah. Yeah, I happen to be a big fan of Bill Maher.

I'm a lot more of a fan of Bill Maher's politics than I am of Dave Chappelle's politics. I mean, I don't know. It seems like Chappelle is always like going after Israel for some reason. And I'm sure people are going to be like, well, for some reason, but he's always like, you know, if I'm. Oh god.

I don't know. Well, the 240 journalists is just wrong. A lot of those journalists are actually with Hamas.

So they call themselves journalists, but they're basically advocating for the terror organization that helped kill 1,700 people.

So were some journalists hit? Sadly, yes, but it happens all the time. Were they aiming for those journalists? No, they weren't aiming for those journalists. But when you come in and massacre 1,700 people, it's not up to you to decide the response.

And that's what people are missing. He never mentions that. He never mentions that part. He never mentions the whole October 7th. He never mentions the Holocaust.

He never mentions all of that. He just... And that's what I seem to have an issue with is that. If you're gonna make that, at least. At least play, say, you know, what happened or why are the Jews reacting this way?

Like, why is there a war? What about the hostages that never came back? I mean, like, we just need to forget about that.

So that's what's uh yeah, that's problematic, sure.

So Adam, last night we taped an episode of Guttfeld Without You. I don't like going on there without you. But we just pointed out what we all know that after the end of the year, they looked at how many conservatives have appeared on late night television. It was two. One was Greg Guttfeld.

But yet their ratings, I was looking at them, they're a 1-7, 2-1, 2-3. For people who don't know, Carson was getting like a 7.5. Wenna was getting a five or a six. Letterman was getting like a four.

So their ratings are going down, but there's not even an attempt to be inclusive. If there was one per uh host that you think that would change The strategy this year Who would it be? If any, don't even if you don't think anyone will, then don't say it. But is there anyone that would understand that you have a chance to double your audience if you just be an equal opportunity offender? No, I think Fallon would be the closest, you know, but I think Fallon, you know, I watch Jimmy Fallon, I feel like he apologizes for his jokes, and he'll tell a joke or he'll laugh at his own jokes.

And then Jimmy Kimmel. And Colbert are just in too deep. They're just in too deep. Whereas, like, and that's the thing about everyone was like, Jimmy Kimmel was, you know, him, him getting canceled was so bad for comedy. And I'm like, Jimmy Kimmel never has any comics on.

Like, if you look up how many comedians that are doing stand-up comedy on Jimmy Kimmel, it's probably like. It's zero in the last five years. He never has a comedian on his show doing comedy ever. Guttfeld on Fox News has had more comics do comedy on show. And Guttfeld has, what, five comics a week on his show?

Whereas Kimmel has none. I mean, he doesn't have any comedians. It's like he wants to be the only person telling jokes on the show. And then all the jokes are about Donald Trump. Um, I don't know why they don't realize that, like, look, I knew Trump as a comedian, as a touring comic.

I knew it was going to be a landslide when Donald Trump, the election last year, just been going, oh, we're here, who here supports Biden? It was crickets anywhere I went around the country. Who here's in for Trump? Woo! It was MAGA hats.

And it was just, and it wasn't even like I was going to just shows everywhere, and you could see it. I'm like, this is, and then you go to Hollywood or you go to New York City, and it's all like, Then it's like boo, boo, boo. But like, there's a whole country in between New York and California where people are just, it's just red, or people are, you know. It's a lot. It's people that are not just, you know, anti-Donald Trump.

So, Kamala Harris sat down in a podcast and she was. Saying stuff. I mean, dating advice, everything. Here's Kamala Harris on her philosophy, Adam. Maybe you can work with this on stage.

I don't aspire. to be humble. Humility, yes, is very important. But when you are sending signals, and it's very dated, if not just traditional, but a very dated perspective on who women should be, to say women should be humble, women should be quiet, women should laugh quietly, women should not have a sense of humor, women should not raise their voice, women should not experience, at least openly, anger, women should not complain. Who's telling this that women can't anger?

Are we back in Saudi Arabia? Nobody's saying that. First of all, everyone should be humble, whether you're a guy or a girl. Being humble is a good quality. I think that she's also like, she wants a plaque made out of her, too.

Does she want a statue? Like for second place? Like, who gets a second place statue? Like, that's number one. No one's saying women should be quiet or women can't laugh or women shouldn't be funny.

I don't know if she's dating, you know, Archie Bunker or whatever. I mean, maybe because her ex, you know, women shouldn't date somebody who impregnates maids, probably. That's that's one, but or impregnates the nanny, but that was, you know, a long time ago. But, you know, he spent more time in a nanny's body than Miss Doubtfire. Yes.

I just wouldn't, I don't know. Kamala Harris is like. I really hope she runs again because she gives. She's so funny, but I don't know who's around her. But, like, maybe she watched a movie or something on, like, I don't know, a black and white movie where the guy goes, I'll get you.

You know, I don't know who's telling her the women have to be this way. Yeah, yeah, she's fighting an invisible foe. Adam, stay right there. I've got a couple of other topics for you. And you have, let's be honest, there's nobody that wants to hang out with you.

There's nothing for you to do, no family obligations. It is just a Wednesday, so I am giving you something to do.

So I'm asking you to stand by, but let's be honest, there's nowhere for you to go. Back in a minute. No, no way. Increasing your intelligence quotient. What the hell did you just say?

It's Brian Killmead. Yeah. The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmead. Sponsored by Previgen.

Previgen made for your brain. Did he write a book about your cognitive decline and released it like right at the very end of the day? Yes, right at the end, like within two weeks of the Elite. Way to jump on the bandwagon, bud. Yeah.

You're about three years and six months to late. Yeah, no sources. No, no on-the-record sources. No shit. None.

Wow. Nobody on the record will go on the record. But, you know, he was.

So that is Hunter Biden going off on Jake Tapper. He said he was going to fight him at one Super Bowl, not sure why. And then he was just ripping him for writing a book about his dad's failing brain. Adam Hunter, your thoughts on Hunter. I mean, Hunter, I wouldn't fight him.

The guy could crack. That's true. But. Yeah, I mean look I understand why he would be defending his dad. I mean, his dad was the only one in the world that was defending him, you know?

So I think he definitely has some loyalty. It is his family, and I get it. Um at the same time, no one will go on the record. A lot of people in the record. Like everyone that has, anyone worked in the administration.

But Hunter, you know, he's $15 million in debt right now, $10 to $15 million, which think about how much money that this guy has made. But just through selling artwork, I mean I mean, not even real artwork. He was getting like a million, what, like hundreds of thousands of dollars. Like, how much money did that guy go through? And all the money he got from Russia and all the other crazy money.

Like, how much, how bad do you have to be with finances? And You know. What's crazy that you listen to Hunter, you're like. He actually does come across somewhat educated and smart. Like he is, there's an appealing part about Hunter Biden that you're like, wow.

But then you also realize that this is the guy that. I mean, how much money did he spend on Russian prostitutes in his life? And We got to buy American. I mean, that's offensive. That's true, Adam.

You are very patriotic. Adam, where can we see you on stage? Do you have any dates lined up that we should know about? I'll be at the Cobino Laugh Factory January 3rd. I will be at the St.

Louis Funnybone coming up in January. I'm going to be. Yeah, if you go to AdamHunterComedy.com, I got a ton of dates. And of course, when are you going to be on Gutfeld again? Do you know?

I'll be on Gutfeld January, I think it's January 5th or 6th. You better be on it, man. It's a lot more fun with you. Yes, because you can take shots at me, and you seem to enjoy that. Adam Hunter, thanks so much.

Merry Christmas.