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So, if you're watching the stream on Fox Nation, go ahead and pop it in. Congressman Tom Emmers here, he's the House Majority Whip, and what a job he has. I mean, when you talk about a slim majority, you cannot, there's almost no margin for error, and that's what's on his plate on a daily basis out of Minnesota. Congressman, it's kind of, I was going to apologize for how cold it was here this week in New York, but you don't care. This is like tight top weather for you.
It's beautiful. I walked over here, it's awesome, right? Yeah, which is good. I mean, a little bit earlier, but are you used to it? I mean, is Minnesota as cold as they say?
Well, for me, it hasn't been. We've had two wimpy winters in a row, but yes, we'll have a stretch in the past few years, with the exception of the last two, where you get to. I remember it was raining on Christmas Day. This is within the last five years. And for the next six to eight weeks, the temperature was somewhere around 20 below.
I mean, it just stayed there, right? And everybody's thinking, oh, it's global warming. We're not going to have this. And then, boom, it's so cold that your tires will freeze where they sit.
So when you start driving the next morning, it'll be a little bit of the thump-thump until it warms up. Wow. I mean, that's incredible. I remember during the Super Bowl that you guys hosted, they would tell our reporters, you cannot take off your gloves, whatever you do.
So, and you got to cover your face or whatever. But you guys are tough by nature.
So it's great to see you. Did anything surprise you about the final tally? I talked to you in the morning before the final vote on the CR that you got back from, got back from the Senate. Tom Massey didn't vote for it, but you lost Greg Stuby, too.
Well, and I never had a chance to talk to Greg. We tried, but Greg was part of a larger group that we ran into a problem that we didn't expect. And you may not be surprised to know. That the Senate snuck a provision in when they did it. At the night they did it, they put in a provision which on its face made sense to clarify a certain Senate statute that applies to senators when you are taking or taking records or getting a subpoena.
There's a statute that, as I understand it, says the senators are supposed to be notified. And as we know, Jack Smith in his Arctic Frost investigation I took, I think it's eight senators, went and got their phone records without their knowledge. We just found out Kevin McCarthy, too.
Okay, well, the House doesn't have these protections because it was also Mike Kelly. But there is a statute that actually is supposed to protect senators from the standpoint they're supposed to get notice even when there's a subpoena.
Well, they clarified that statute because apparently it wasn't clear if it applies to cell phones, other things.
So they did that. But then, Brian? They put a private cause of action in it and said damage is not less than $500,000 per occurrence. We almost had a complete jail break over that. Our guys were so frustrated by that because it, one, it looks bad.
Two, I'm not sure why they think they're going to get half a million dollars or more for this. But think about this: the frustration in the House, which is kind of a lunch pail blue-collar institution compared to the silk stockings in the Senate. Jack Smith didn't just go after members of Congress. He was serving subpoenas on American citizens and American organizations outside of Congress. Why is it that people in Elected office are entitled to greater protection than people that he was attacking.
Bad message and an unnecessary message. And we are going to fix it. But that, I think, that's how you lost him. Right.
So it did pass. You got a few Democrats to cross over. Tom Massey has just done another planet. He's got a personal problem with the President of the United States.
So we'll see what happens where we go from here. People keep saying, well, didn't you just postpone? The next shutdown that's going to happen January 30th. And I thought one way to solve that would be to get your appropriations bills done. Get everything done ahead of time, you don't have anything to negotiate, right?
That is exactly right. And I, you know, people, it's mostly the media. And I, God bless you, Brian Kilmead, for recognizing that this is about getting back to a regular order appropriations process. It's not about, oh, we're going to report. You just have the next shutdown on January 30th.
No, no. What we were doing in September. Was getting back to this regular order of appropriations. There were three bills, and now you've seen them, because they came across with the same CR that we had sent them on the 19th, with the exception of that January date now. Those three bills, they were ready to close them back in September.
I'm told there's another six, up to six, right now that are that close to the Second Second. And on the House side to get to the Senate or the House? The House passed all twelve out of our appropriations committee. We passed a handful off the House floor. But you'll remember, it's probably old news now, at the beginning of September, both the House and the Senate made motions on their respective floors to go to conference on those first three.
So these conference the the communications between Republicans and Democrats in the House and the Senate have been going on since September, Brian. We get those I the appropriations chair in the House, Tom Cole from Oklahoma, who I I mean You can set your watch to Tom. He believes that he can get 10 of the 12 done in short order. And it'll come down to, for instance, the defense appropriations bill and the labor housing bill.
So let me ask you: do the Democrats, I know for the longest time when you guys were in the minority, you felt like you had no voice in those committees. Do Democrats get, do they speak up? Do you guys work together when they're in committee? Or do they have a role? If you are a reasonable left-of-center Democrat who wants to govern, and there are some, right?
You had six that crossed over to open the government in the House the other night. John Swazi, Jared Goldie. Yeah, I mean, you got people who want to do that kind of work. And there's more than that, by the way. There are just others that feared their violent left, I think, more than these guys.
Yes. People work together, believe it or not, to get these things out of committee, to get them across the House floor. And now that they're doing conferences, you know that formal conference committee, Brian, I was told that hadn't happened since 2019. How crazy is that? It's just there are good things happening.
But I think that with your role too, because your job, this is your job. I think that you should be doing a lot of that defining. Like, there's a lot of people, they're very smart people, they just have no idea the political interwork because they haven't taken American government since 11th grade. Just say, guys, here's the goal: it's the goal is to hash it out in committee. The minority has a voice.
We get that bill forward. We meet in a conference. We haven't done it yet. And I wonder too, because I know you stayed so late to do the big, beautiful bill, but did anyone consider working through August? I know you guys can't do this and stay away from your families.
Everyone's got vacation, but I knew that Chuck Schumer couldn't possibly keep his job if he didn't. refused to do your CR after the blowback he got in In Sept uh in March.
So that was happening let's just have done. Did you guys discuss that at all, staying in August? Oh, there was definitely discussion. Uh and the issue though i and it happens every time you run into this impasse and you're getting to the end of July. The issue is the calendar is set.
Like in the next two, three weeks we will all get a calendar that Steve Scalees, the majority leader, and before that it would have been Stenny Hoyer. They will publish a calendar for the next year. And the closer you get to that August date, the harder it's going to be for you to change that because people are setting but reality, and this is just one man's opinion, not the whip's opinion, because this is as a member, Uh you should change that. We should do something about the August recess. It's in the wrong place.
And by the way, you should also think about changing the September 30th funding deadline. Put it on a regular year schedule like most businesses are. I did not know that we weren't shutting down the government until 1978. Do you see a way the Congress can function? Without giving either side that shutdown option.
Can you put that into language? Because it really hurts people that have no business being hurt. Like for example, the airline industry, like for example, TSA, air traffic controllers, 1.4 million federal workers. And your staff. Is it possible or you don't think that's think that's ever going to happen?
Well, first off, I'm going to put it in these terms. I've been saying this for a couple of weeks because I get asked who won the shutdown? Nobody wins shutdowns. And Democrats who did this this time should have read the book because Republicans wrote the darn book on shutdowns. You cannot leverage your policy agenda from the minority by shutting down the federal government.
It never works because of what you just said. You are harming everybody that has no there's no reason to harm 42 million low-income Americans who rely on SNAP. There's no reason to shut down the airspace because our air traffic controllers aren't getting paid and TSA and our Capitol Police, et cetera. But I'm a little different. I believe we're going to have to grow up again.
You've already said you've got a lot of people who are very smart people, but they haven't studied civics, American civics, or how it works since the 11th grade. We've got a lot of people coming into Congress that are going to have to learn very quickly, and the American public's going to have to hold them accountable how the art of constitutional governance is supposed to work. This is what has been lost over the last 30 years as we have gone farther and farther. You have an omnibus, you just fund it, we don't know what's in it, you're in. Then there's Christmas.
Yeah. And we go, What's in this? And Trump said the first time, What the hell is going on here? Basically, I'm new to this. I'll never sign this again.
Yeah, so you're trying never to give him another omnibus, and I think that's great. What if your home security could stop or break in before it even begins? That's not science fiction, that's simply safe. And right now, their early access Black Friday sale is changing how we think about protection. Traditional systems wait until someone's already breaking in.
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I fully welcome. Trump voters into our coalition. And I know that sounds crazy to some people, but Just hear me out. I cannot tell you. It just happened to me like two weeks ago.
I can't tell you how many times someone has pulled me aside. and said either I was once a big Trump voter and a Trump supporter, and I watched Fox News every day, but then I started to kind of expand. My world and where I got information, and now. I've learned, and now I've changed, and I'm with you, and I learn from you.
So That's what she's experienced in Radio Bay. She wanted to say that they wanted MAGA people wanted to try socialism.
So The chances of these people really sincere, number one, that they exist, or number two, that they're saying that. I could see. Mag of people saying, you know, I like this about Trump. I don't like that about Trump. I could see that.
But I never thought AOC was an option. What about you, Tom Emmer? Ms. Akasio-Cortez is smoking crack because she's not telling you. That is not happening.
I'm sorry. She lives in a fairy tale world that, you know, money grows on trees. And, you know, she and Bernie Sanders et al., and now this Marxist communist. Yeah, this guy is crazy. These guys are not living in reality.
There is a reason why 77 million Americans voted for Donald Trump. Do they all love our president's pugnacious behavior? No, but they recognize the ideas we're talking about, which is individual freedom, economic liberty, safety and security, a country that's a country because you've got a secure border and getting the worst of the worst. The murderers, the human traffickers, those that have committed sexual assault, getting the heck out of our country. Country, Brian.
That's what Americans are excited about. And Ms. Ecasio-Cortez is probably like all these other delusional, dem socialist, communist, whatever, that think that the Tuesday night a week ago or whenever the elections were in Virginia and New York City and New Jersey, they somehow are trying to spin that as a big win for themselves when, in fact, they won where they were supposed to win. And Jack Chitterelli, he had gubernatorial turnout. Trump's not on the ballot, and he got 100,000 more votes than he got with Trump on the ballot or the last time he ran.
But do you also agree that affordability is a message that you want to take away from that? I would love to have affordability be the message. That's where it's going to work. With affordability on mortgages and other things. I don't know what legislation would do, but we just got to find a way to unfreeze the market while we wait for rates to come down.
If Tom Emmer has a 3.5% mortgage and you want to get a bigger house, it doesn't make financial sense for you to go to a 6% mortgage and make that move.
So no one's making that move. Therefore, we don't have. The starter homes available to the next generation. This is the economic theory we're hearing. Yeah, well, affordability is going to be the issue.
I love the fact that Donald Trump thinks outside of the box. I mean, talking about a 50-year mortgage. Why not? I mean, there have to be creative solutions. And by the way, the Fed has got to wake up soon because the current Fed chair has been slow to act all through this.
And now he's indicating he's not going to cut. And that's why the market's taking ahead. It's just, it's petty. It's petty. And I know that the president has looked at this and been very vocal about it.
It'll change by the spring. And guess what, Brian? We passed that bill with the largest middle-class tax cut in the history of this country, largest cut in spending in the history of this country, and permanent tax policy that told the money that was sitting on the sidelines last July, you now know how you're going to be treated, started in January of 2016. Because we don't know what the Big Beautiful Bill does yet because it's not there. It's passed, but now it's not going to be.
Your governor is a piece of work, Tim Waltz. Listen to what he said yesterday, Cut 23. Because I had spent some time in China. I taught in China. You might have heard that last fall.
Yeah. God forbid your vice president would like to know China and could speak a little Chinese. You know, that would be a horrible thing to have happen now to actually understand China. But Gwynn always joked and said, Tim, you did your Peace Corps time in China. I'm doing mine in Nebraska.
Let's move back to Minnesota.
So she moved us to Maine Cato, Minnesota, where her family's from. And we started teaching school there. Because Mao Setong and Xi had their policies. The Chinese Communist Party agree with Tim Walls. Frankly, I wish he would have stayed living there.
It would have fit him much better. He is getting re-elected.
Well, if you want me to go into the mechanics, the problem is 87 counties in Minnesota. His last re-elect, he got 52% of the vote. He only won 13 counties, the 13 metro. The 74 that he lost, which includes his former congressional district, Brian, he got 37% of the vote. He is not a well-liked man.
In the 13-county metro, I would argue it has a lot to do with some discrepancies when we go through our campaign process. But more importantly, it's the corrupt media that never holds this man accountable. For $2 billion in fraud under his administration, I mean, this is insane. If you see how it's mismanaged, he took a $18 billion surplus and in a span of a year has put us on, or two years has put us on a trajectory for a $5 to $6 billion. Shortfall.
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