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Hi, everyone, Brian Kilmeat here on Election Day, the off-year election with a lot of intensity, a lot of passion, and a big turnout. Early voting through the roof in New Jersey, in Virginia, and especially New York City. And we're also wrestling with some breaking news, and that is the passing of Dick Cheney, the former Vice President, Chief of Staff for Gerald Ford, former Secretary of Defense for George H.W. Bush, and of course, Vice President for George W. Bush.
He used to be CEO of Halliburton, had a fantastic, impactful career, and his role is prominent. He's been in our lives publicly for 50, 60 years. He's been married for over 60 years. A real impact, and a conservative's conservative. I thought he had a chance to interview him a number of times.
Just a great guy. An up-and-coming conservative who I think has done a fantastic job is the governor of Virginia, Glenn Youngkin, now battling to make sure his lieutenant governor is the next governor. And he joins us from Virginia, and he's worked extremely hard to get her elected. Governor Glenn Youngkin, welcome back to the Brian Kilmeat Show. Yeah.
Hey, Brian. Thank you for having me. It's election day. And so I am. asking, calling for All conservatives to get out and vote.
And we had a great television. The organizers told us that there were over five hundred thousand people involved. And that's just a huge call to get out and vote. President wrapped it up perfectly. He said, vote Republican.
And down the ticket. And we can continue to prosper. And if we don't, then we're going to see Virginia go backwards. And I just so appreciate him. stepping up.
He's done two of these for us in the last week. And we got to get out and vote today if we want to keep Virginia moving in the right direction.
So it's really personal to you. You spent your last four years. You rocked the boat and you shocked everybody by beating Terry McCall four years ago. What did you get done? And what are you concerned that's gonna what are you can most concerned will be undone if Lieutenant Governor Winsom Sears loses?
But when we came into office four years ago, Virginia was a failing state. We were bottom third in the nation in job growth. We led the nation in learning loss and fourth grade reading and math. And we had a 20-year-region murder rate, and we saw parents being shoved out of their kids' lives. And we just went to work.
And so we have had recorded commitments from businesses to expand and grow in Virginia. $140 billion, Brian. That's more than the last. five administrations combined. We've seen 277,000 more Virginians go to work.
And that $140 billion underpins another 85,000 jobs and 40,000 construction jobs. All of that has underpinned our ability to run surplus after surplus, $10 billion in surpluses. We've had $9 billion of tax relief, where even in a divided government where I have Democrats and controlled our legislators, we've gotten $9 billion back to. Yeah. Virginians.
We've worked.
So, so tight. Tirelessly with the Trump administration, in order to make sure that we are arresting violent, illegal criminals. And sending them back to where they came from, over 5,000 now. And finally, we have stood strong for law enforcement, and I'm worried all of those things get undone. They're going to undo our business success.
They're going to undo our public safety success. They're going to undo our education success. And they're going to undo standing for parents. This is what's on the ballot. And that's why I'm encouraging everybody, get out and vote.
And Governor, you have been passionate. And if things don't go the Lieutenant Governor's way, they cannot blame you. No one's worked harder. President Obama came out. It shows that he's definitely the Democrats have to be concerned about this election.
And this is what he said: the exact opposite of what you said you accomplished. Either he missed it or won't give you credit for it. Listen to this: cut 26. Virginia, here's the good news. If you can't visit the doctor, don't worry.
He will save you a dance. And if you don't get an invitation to the next White House Sunday, You can always watch the festivities. And all the beautiful people on True Social. The point is, there is absolutely no evidence. Republican policies have made life Better.
For you, the people of Virginia.
Well, he doesn't want to debate you, but I'm sure you have a counter to that. Yeah, well, he's so disconnected from what's been happening in Virginia over the last four years. It was, in fact, the Democrat policies in a Democrat controlled state because they had the governor's office, the lieutenant governors, the attorney generals, and they controlled both houses That had dragged Virginia to a place we've never seen. Literally, Virginia had no job growth. Virginia had no business growth.
In fact, we had 25,000 small businesses shut in 2021. And as I said, we had a 20-year high in murder rate as they had a criminal first victims last approach. They demeaned and demoralized law enforcement. And finally, they were leaving our kids, literally, literally our kids out to dry. They had dumbed down all expectations.
We led the nation in learning loss. And they were telling parents that you have no say in what should be taught in our schools. And we have turned every. everything around where Virginia is leading today.
So listen, President Obama is incredibly disconnected from what's happening in Virginia. He was just carrying whatever talking points they handed him. And at the end of the day, Virginians like what we've been doing. They like what we've been doing. They did not like what the previous Democrat-controlled Virginia was doing, and that's what's on the ballot.
Do we want to go back to what they were doing, which was dragging Virginia a place we couldn't recognize her? Do we want to continue great policies that are leading to great outcomes for the state? And I just look at this as four more years for Winsome Sears and Jason Miares. And John Reed, our lieutenant governor, coming into the team, we're going back to what we had. And I guess finally, Brian.
This is a moment for us to have some real clarity. on decency. And what Jay Jones, who's the Democrat candidate for Attorney General tweeted and then came or or texted and then came back. is that he wanted to put two bullets in the head of his political rival, He wanted to see his political rival's children die in his mother's arms. And then he wanted to see a few cops die as well.
And this is disqualifying from anybody serving in any Any position. And This has changed everything. Even the Washington Post came out last night. And said that the human decency is on the ballot, and Virginians need to stand for human decency and elect. A ticket that can stand for this.
Now, think about this: the Washington. in post said this. And so I think Virginians, particularly Virginians in the middle, Who were trying to decide which kind of Virginia do you want? One that stands for decency and progress and opportunity. or one that literally is backing a guy Who wants to put bullets in his political rival's head and see his children die?
I think it's that clear. That's why everybody's got to get out and vote. Lieutenant Governor Winsom Sears, your partner, who's done so well for the last four years, trailing by about five or six votes and the real clear average. points on the Real Clear Average. She's uh of Jamaican descent, became a naturalized American citizen and a US Marine.
And I'm just wondering if this uh if this statement still holds up for Barack Obama, because here's what he said about voting for Kamala Harris in 2024.
So if you don't mind just for a second, I'm going to speak to y'all directly. And say that. When you have it. a choice that is this clear. When on the one hand you Have somebody who grew up like you, knows you, went to college with you, understands the struggles.
And pain and joy that comes. from those experiences. And so now You're thinking about sitting out? I've got a problem with that. He's saying basically to black men, you have to vote for a black woman.
Why doesn't he still believe that? Yeah, it's just a it's just a short. shocking demonstration of the hypocrisy that we see over and over and over again. out of the Democrat Party. And that hypocrisy presents itself not only in President Obama's comments.
But the fact that they will show dis to political violence unless it inconveniences them. The crazy thing is, even Abigail Spamberger came out last week in an interview and said that she's frustrated she has to talk about the Jay Jones issue over and over again. And she's frustrated that she has to talk about an issue where a guy wants to literally children die and see cops die and kill somebody. That's not being frustrating. That's standing for something.
And this is again the hypocrisy of the party. All they want is power, all they want to do is win. And Brian, that's what's on the ballot. I mean, even this past week. Democrat leaders like Abigail Spamberger had come out last summer and said that she could never support redistricting.
And then the National Democrat Redistricting Committee drops $300,000 in their campaign accounts. And then the next day, they started a process to pass legislation, which, by the way, is unconstitutional in my mind, in order to redistrict Virginia. Listen, this is a question about what do we believe as Virginians. And I think we're so much better than all of this. And it is that hypocrisy that once again reinforces the fact that we've got to keep doing what we're doing because we have stood strong for the things we believe in.
And Virginia has benefited as a result. Governor, does it hurt the Lieutenant Governor Winsom Sears that President Trump has not endorsed her? Like he has come out so strongly for her, and particularly over the course of the last month. Me said she's an excellent. Candidate, and that Abigail Spamberger is an awful candidate.
Uh and he has come out now in two teller rallies. with, I mean, literally numbers that seem to be somewhere near 500,000 for each one of the tele rallies. And supported voting for her, voting for all the Republicans up and down the ticket because. He knows that Virginia has made so much progress. He said it last night.
Virginia is. Just absolutely winning. And if we don't win, Virginia will Fall behind again. And it's just that clear. I tell you, one of the other topics that I think the president raised last night, which is clearly on the ballot.
is the cost of electricity. And Brian, this is again another result of way left policies, these Green New Deals. Virginia passed it in the previous administration when they had full control. We've been battling it ever since. And the bottom line is wind and solar don't work.
And the bottom line is Virginia power bills are going to go up like crazy if they keep progressing these things. Winston Sears is going to fight against it. That's why we got to win our House of Delegates back.
so that we can turn back some of these crazy Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've done a good job of chipping away at it. We have an all-American, all-the-above energy policy. We are pushing gas, we're pushing nuclear. But at the end of the day, power bills reflect bad policy.
And the bad policy of all green is driving up bills in every blue state, and that's why we can't let this happen today. Governor, as you know, we are in the middle of a government shutdown. There is one word that there's some talk going on that could end this week. How is the government shutdown? Made this more challenging for you guys in Virginia so close to Washington, and so many people live in Washington, in Northern Virginia, work in Washington and live in Virginia.
Of course. the Schumer shutdown has impacted every Yeah. federal employee. And I just want to be really clear that Democrat senators have voted now 14 times. to keep government closed.
When they voted 13 times to open it with a clean CR in the Biden administration, this is driven by Democrats. We have 330,000 federal workers. And that's excluding our great military that live in Virginia. And these folks are going without a paycheck right now. Those folks are working hard.
Air traffic controllers. I mean, listen, this is crazy. And I do believe that there are many, many folks who are without a paycheck. And I remind your listeners. The tempain.
came out two years ago. The Democrat senator from Virginia came out two years ago. And he said, anyone who thinks there's any good that comes out of a government shutdown, come to Virginia. and see Virginians who are missing paychecks. who therefore are going to miss rent payments and mortgage payments We should never play games with Virginians' lives.
And then he comes out and he he's Votes no in opening up the government. This is again the hypocrisy. Yeah. Of the Democrats, particularly leadership in our Senate right now, but also in our House. The bottom line is that now they're holding Virginians.
and Americans who need food assistance hostage. And you've heard him say it, Brian, over and over again. that we have leverage. People are not leveraged, and if you try to use them as leverage, that means you're holding them hostage. And it is just so despicable.
And in Virginia, two weeks ago, I declared a state of emergency. And we stood up and food assistance program to pay out the equivalent of SNAP benefits to Virginians, 850,000. because I'm just not gonna allow Senate Democrats to use Virginians. as leverage. And I'll tell you, no other state's been able to do this.
We worked like crazy to get it stood up. And we're just not going to allow Virginians, the least of these, to be taken advantage of. Let me just tell you, from someone who doesn't live in Virginia, but I'm lucky enough to have some great stations in Virginia, like WNIS and WRBA. I'm just wondering if people fully understand How different things will be because they keep on saying Congresswoman Spanberger is a moderate. But when you did your research about the opponent that Lieutenant Governor Winston Senior would be facing, what did you discover?
She is no moderate. She voted 100% with Nancy Pelosi. He's right there with AOC. She's already stated her policy positions She fundamentally is going to back tax. Increases, which the Democrats want to do, she's going to turn Virginia into a sanctuary state.
She's going to undo my executive order. that mandates that we cooperate with federal authorities to go arrest violent. violent, illegal immigrants, and send them home. She's already said that she's going to undo my executive order that forbids men to be in girls' bathrooms. I mean, this is where she stands.
And finally, she's going to promote and she's been back. backing this her entire career. The mandatory joining of a union. Virginia is a right-to-work state. That means you cannot be forced to join a union.
And she led the federal effort to pass the PRO Act. which would eviscerate right to work laws everywhere in the country. She is no moderate, and anybody who thinks she's moderate is misunderstanding where she stands. And this is why we got to get out the wind today. Because Winston Sears is going to lead like a Marine.
She's going to fight for Virginians and she's going to make sure that we have economic prosperity, low taxes, safe neighborhoods by backing the blue and standing up for parents and education. just like we've done the last four years. And Abigail Spamberger doesn't believe in any of that. Lieutenant Governor, the position is really heated too. John, your chances do you think John Reed has?
Yeah, so that that race again is tight. And he has campaigned like crazy across the state. And so John Reed's got a, just like Winston, we get turnout today, and he can win. And then Miaz, Jason Miaras, I believe, is the best attorney general in America. I really do.
One of the reasons is I get sued a lot and he wins. But he has stood strong, strong. Yeah. Virginians. And let's look back at his record.
It's extraordinary. Last year, he won a case at the Supreme Court to keep illegal. Uh Uh immigrants. Off of the voting law. And can you imagine we had to go to the Supreme Court to vote for it?
I know, and we just want it. And we just had him on Fox and Friends 2. Governor, you have a lot of energy. And I know you're going to run through the tape. Thanks so much for spending some time with us.
Governor Glenn Youngkin, thank you. Brian, God bless you. Thank you so much. Back in a moment. You'll listen to the Brian Killmee Show.
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So, Dick Cheney has passed away at the age of 84, and think about what he's done. I mean, he came in as an economic advisor during the Trump year, excuse me, during the four years. He did so good, so impressive with his Donald Rumsfeld. They'd be friends for life. They elevated him.
He eventually became chief of staff for Gerald Ford. When he originally got his job, he was working for Nixon. He gets elevated to chief of staff for Ford at difficult times. Ford ran really hard, but barely lost to Jimmy Carter. He goes out of government for a while, decides, you know what, I'm going to run for Congress.
He does that. I think he won five terms in Congress, and he gets his reputation as being the staunch conservative. And he is. And then when it's time for George H.W. Bush to step up, he says, I'm going to look at this guy, Dick Cheney, to be Secretary of Defense.
Did a great job putting together a coalition for the Persian Gulf War. After that, when Bush, excuse me, yeah, when Bush loses to Clinton, he steps out, runs Halliburton. W wins the nomination. He asked Cheney to run his vice presidential search. and then he picked himself.
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So we This is the breaking point. When you don't pay our men and women in uniform, and they have to go without their weekly paychecks, and you start to have people who cannot afford their food and fuel, then it starts to have an impact. And then people start to say, why is this happening? I believe that the shutdown is politically motivated. I believe that if they wanted to, they could find common ground, but they choose not to.
And that has hurt the Republican brand, the Republican reputation. Their numbers are down, as you point out in your own polling of Donald Trump. But the numbers that have fallen the worst, to my surprise, are the Democrats. Everyone is being hurt by this. Everyone's credibility and respect.
And looking at the government, and the public just looks at this and says, Why can't you find some agreement? Why can't you give? Why can't you cooperate? And that's going to be a very big question Wednesday and Thursday when this election is over. It is hurting the Republicans, but it seems to be hurting the Democrats even more.
I actually saw a two-poll. I think it should be hurting the Democrats, just like it hurt the Republicans more when they did not have, they were not the party in power and they wanted to have a shutdown. And I remember Ted Cruz in 2013, I think it was, came out and just said, Hey, Obamacare is terrible. Let's hold off until they make changes to it. And they locked out and they shut everything down.
And Obama tried to amp up the pressure by shutting down museums and libraries and things to that nature. And Republicans paid the price for that. I don't think they got anything from Obama either.
Now we have a longer shutdown because the Democrats will not sign on for a continuing resolution, or at least seven more won't, five more won't allow to get the 60 votes to continue to negotiate. But I saw the Washington Post poll. And I saw the NBC poll. And both polls show that, believe it or not, Republicans taking most of the blame. I just think that these polls tend to go left with both those organizations.
But it's not good. I think about the TSA agents, I think about the air traffic controllers. Everyday people who let they say 65% live paycheck to paycheck. And now you have millions of people who are not getting snap benefits. Please tell me why this is worth it.
Alan West joins us now. Colonel, welcome back. You're Dallas County Republican Party Chair, former Florida Congressman. Your thoughts about this shutdown. I mean, word is they're starting to talk underneath leadership.
But we've set a record that nobody wanted to break. Yes, Brian, it's great to be with you. I think it is really unconscious of what you see happening. And one of the things that I learned in the military is that you lead by example. And so when you have people that are sitting there members of the House and Senate.
still getting paid is Very difficult for them to explain why they're inflicting this pain upon the American people. And you're starting to see that being the main question.
So I think it's important that Republicans, I know that Donald Trump has been doing a lot of traveling abroad and what have you, but he needs to give an address to the American people. He really needs to talk about what's at stake here, what's going on here. He has the largest platform out there. And I don't see how the Democrats can stand up and articulate exactly, point by point by point, why they are continuing to vote against. I mean, they are the ones voting against.
reopening the government. They need to explain to the American people They need to explain why you need to have subsidies for Obamacare. Is it becoming that onerous and that expensive? I mean, has it truly been, like Nancy Pelosi said, we have to pass the bill in order to find out what's in it?
So I think this is about communications, and I think Republicans and President Trump need to step it up and do a little bit of a business.
So you think they're being out communicated?
Well, I think when you look at the massive amount of media that you're up against, you just talked about it being the leftist media, the liberal media, you have to constantly be out there in touch with the American people. You have to all be on the same sheet of music saying the exact same points. And I think that that needs to happen every day. If I were the president, I would have maybe a week or two ago had done a national address to the American people to talk about here are the positions that the Democrats want. This is the reason why I don't think that's good for the American people.
And these are the amounts of times they have voted against opening up the government. That's what you have to do.
So, when we look at the issues right now, in Texas, you're looking at a proposition that would make permanent zero state tax, correct? Uh Correct, that's one of the things that we want to make sure that nobody can come back later on and institute a state tax. You know, what we also need to do is make sure we can reduce the property tax burden that we have here. We have some of the highest property taxes in Texas.
So that's one of the issues. How do you feel about Texas' decision to gerrymander, to redistrict?
Well, why not? I mean, if anything, we've just taken a page out of the lesson plan of the Democrat Party. When you look at places like Massachusetts, most of your New England states where you don't have any Republican congressional representation whatsoever. You look at a place like Illinois, where Donald Trump, if I'm correct, he got somewhere about 40 to 42, 43 percent. Only two congressional representatives there, and look at what they're trying to do out in California.
So I think that the Democrats should not try to get into a blow-by-blow in this because they have basically tapped themselves out while Republicans can continue to go on further. And also, you have a very interesting Supreme Court decision that's going to be coming up on the Voting Rights Act, Section 2, about whether or not we should continue to make minority districts, whether or not that's a violation of the 14th Amendment, equal protection under the law. That's a very important case that was brought up for Louisiana. I know they're also going to be at the Supreme Court today, as the Treasury Secretary will be front and center as they debate tariffs and the legality of tariffs and how much the executive branch power, the executive branch has as opposed to Congress. And the president said he might even go.
That's how much it means to him. I want you to hear what President Obama's been saying about Republicans. They wheeled him out again to be the closer in Virginia and New Jersey. Cut 27. They've put on a big show of deporting people and targeting transgender folks.
They never miss a chance to scapegoat minorities in DI. For every problem under the sun. You got a flat tire? DI. Wife mad engine?
Yeah. What they have not devoted energy to is helping you. Is that going to be an effective message? I don't think so. I think, once again, just the same as when he went down to Philadelphia.
Chastise young black man for not supporting Kamala Harris and will backfire. Look, by the way, can I stop you there? In Virginia, the president was going for Spamberger. Lieutenant Lieutenant Governor Winsom Sears is black. Has he changed his opinion on when you should support black people?
Well, she's not really black, just the same as myself, because that's what Joe Biden said. If you don't vote for him, you're not really black. Oh, you're right. I forgot. Barack Obama doesn't.
Yeah, Barack Obama does not see an incredible woman who is a legal immigrant from Jamaica, who is a United States Marine, a member of the United House of Delegates there in Virginia. That's not somebody that you want to elevate. And he keeps talking about DEI. What about the content of character? What about people that come here and enjoy the equality of opportunity and make great of themselves because that's the miracle way?
So I think that once again, you know, he is running on Empy. you know, those comments that you just heard him make quite imbecilic, if you ask me.
So, I don't think I have to tell you that Vice President Dick Cheney had a huge impact on the national landscape really over the course of 30, 40 years, dating back to when he broke in with Nixon, Chief of Staff for Ford, Secretary of Defense for Bush 41, and then Congress for five terms, and then he goes and serves as Vice President for George W. Bush. And here is a little bit of Dick Cheney. Then I want to get your reflections, because you fought in the Persian Gulf War, correct? Correct, I did.
Here is Dick Cheney talking about Saddam Hussein and his weapons of mass destruction, Cut Five. Simply stated. There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt that he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies and against us. And there is no doubt that his aggressive regional ambitions will lead him into future confrontations with his neighbors.
confrontations that will involve both the weapons he has today, and the ones he will continue to develop. With his oil wealth. Right.
So that was the second one when he was vice president, because a lot of it had to do with what we discovered after the first Persian Gulf War. He was lying about the amount of weapons of mass destruction and poisonous gas that he had. And now this time, he seemed to be, if things to say, play out the way they've been, he'd seem to be just bluffing the entire time that he had this by kicking out weapons inspectors and things to that nature. Your thoughts about his role. in both wars.
Well, I tell you that, you know, as a young captain going to Operation Desert Shield Desert Storm, it was an incredible thing that you saw, and Dick Cheney was part of this. the improvement and the revolution in the equipment that we had in the United States military, the conversion over to the Bradley fighting vehicles, the Abrams tanks, the Apache helicopters, the multiple launch rocket systems, So we can say what we want to have disagreements with Dick Cheney, but what he did was he made sure that we put our defense to be a preeminent deterrent. To enemies, and he was very successful in backing us and what we had to do there in Operation Desert Shield, Desert Storm. And there were some things that you can, like I said, disagree with him on, but there was a guy, he served his country. He served his country in every aspect from the political office and then also in administrations.
So uh I think that he'll be missed. Yeah, I mean it's obviously he didn't end on good terms with President Trump because of his fight sticking up for his daughter, which you can understand Liz Cheney, and they basically are bitter enemies.
So it's going to be interesting to see how the President handles it. What do you hope the President says or puts out a statement and saying what would be appropriate? I think it would be appropriate that he remembers him for his service to this country. And you have to show grace. And once again, when you're the President of the United States of America, take the personality out of it and just recognize someone for What they did for this contract.
I agree. And by the way, I think he gave a lot to the country. Talking to him was always an education. He was never over his head in any conversation. They put him out to do the Sunday shows for a reason, because he understood the issues and certainly was a patriot, especially after 9/11.
He was basically the president as Bush 43 was forced to land, I think, in Nebraska. Land in Nebraska with Air Force One, and he was back in the White House.
So we can't forget about that. Dick Cheney dead at 84. Lieutenant Colonel Alan West, thanks so much. Thanks so much, Brian. Look forward to seeing you soon.
Absolutely. You got it. 1866-408-7669. We come back, we'll talk more about this. I got some great clips here from Dick Cheney's career and moments in recent American history.
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An invitation from the Heritage Foundation obviously is always very special, only more so. When it provides an opportunity to talk about Ronald Reagan's visionary strategic defense initiative. I'm sure Ed Fulner thought, well, If we're going to talk about Star Wars, we might as well invite Darth Vader. Yeah. I'm happy to accept.
He did not mind his reputation. He really didn't. He couldn't care less about the criticism, and I know that's true. In fact, he preferred it at him to keep it off the president. And the one thing that they went out of their way, if you don't remember, I do, to make people understand that even though Dick Cheney was influential and very well respected by 43, he was making the decisions.
That became abundantly clear in the last two years after the president changed Secretary of Defense, put Gates in there. They ended up going to the surge. That was not something Dick Cheney was really a part of or Ford necessarily. The surge ended up being remarkably successful. And when the surge happened and the Iraq war ended up.
Uh uh and basically In two thousand eight, Barack Obama was handed a calm Iraq. after it dominated almost both the two full terms with President Bush. Dick Cheney won at Scooter Libby. uh who got caught up in this uh this uh these uh The problem with the speech and blowing Valerie Plame, a CIA agent's cover, which was probably just a shambolic situation, anyway. Scooter Libby got uh convicted of this and he left office.
And the president and vice president went up to Bush and he said, Do me a favor before you leave, pardon Screwer Libby. He did nothing wrong. You know, he was basically okay to speech. And the investigation yielded that he was not the one who gave this information, leaked this information out. It was Richard Armitrage.
It wasn't Scuda Libby. If anything, he told Judith Miller. He was the second one to tell Judith Miller what was going on. And the President said, No, I can't do that. And Donald Trump ended up doing that, but it caused friction between the two.
But I think they're reconciled to a degree, and there's just a difference in age. And I don't think they were necessarily going to hang out together afterwards. But in case you don't know, Dick Cheney passed away. At the AGA Ford today. Just to show you how good he was on the Sunday shows, here's a cut from when he was with on Tim Russert, cut for.
What's your message this morning to Osama bin Laden?
Well, I um I think he seriously misreads the American people. I think the. That means that you have to ask yourself why somebody would do What he does. Why is someone so motivated? Obviously, he's filled with hate for the United States and for everything we stand for.
Why? For freedom and democracy. Why does he hate us so much? It must have something to do with his background, his own. A brain is uh the uh son of a prominent Saudi family, successful business uh Uh group uh with significant wealth.
He went and served in Afghanistan uh with the Mujahideen during the war against uh the Russians. And um he has, for whatever reason, developed his intense hatred of everything that uh relates to the United States.
So that was just five days after 9-11. Remember, he was officially, I mean, we didn't know where the president was. He was in the sky, and they were trying to keep him safe. And he finally had to get on the phone, and they landed the plane. But Dick Cheney was pretty much in charge during that time, and you can't get a guy cooler under pressure.
Here he is talking about another controversial situation. I have no problem with enhanced interrogation. Time mattered, a series of plots mattered that were coming up after 9-11. It was important to get the people responsible, get them talking, to find out about what was behind it and how big an operation this would be.
So they used enhanced interrogation, and it yielded a lot.
Now, a lot of the people involved in that end up going under legal issues, and we had gitmo, and people had problems with that. And remember, Barack Obama was going to close it. Then he realized there's no better place to keep these guys, so he was wrong about that. Here's Dick Cheney on Meet the Press. Target about enhanced interrogation, cut a I'd do it again in a minute.
Torture was what the al-Qaeda terrorists did to 3,000 Americans on 9-11. There's no comparison between that and what we did with respect to enhanced interaction. And he disputed the report's claim that the interrogation tactics provided no credible information to the majority of the majority. It worked. It absolutely did work.
And he would go to his grave swearing that. And I do believe the same thing. If you read the information, for example, the courier was the one that outed. Osama bin Laden. How?
Who is this courier? We're tracking him. We know he's linked to Al Qaeda. Why does he keep going to this compound in Pakistan?
Well, they went and questioned Khalid Sheikh Mohammed at Ghitmo, and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was cooperating at this point.
However, when they asked him about the courier, He shut up. And then the word is when he went back to the prison, he told, and they would communicate with each other, all these high-value targets saying in Gitma. And The prison guards and the intelligence where operators never let them know that we could hear them. And he basically said, whatever you do, Don't bring up the courier. Don't confirm that we know the courier.
Don't bring anything up. And that really alerted. The intelligence agency, there's something with this courier. Let's keep an eye on him. Sure enough, it led him to Bin Laden.
That happened because of enhanced interrogation. That got him because Zubaida helped us get Khalid Sheikh Muhammad. Abu Zubaydah, he was the first big capture that we got. He got him in. Drumroll, please.
Pakistan. Where do we get Khalifik Muhammad? Pakistan. Where are they now? In Cuba, in prison.
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So glad you're there. It's 48th and 6 in Midtown Manhattan. It's the center of everything normally in New York, but especially today. I respect the governor's race in New Jersey. It's going to be fascinating.
I don't think it's going to end. We'll have a winner tonight, Tuesday. But I also think that in Virginia, they got a good shot at taking the Attorney General's slot. And the Lieutenant Governor's slot is also too close to call. Sadly, it looks like Lieutenant Governor wins some serious trailing by five or six points, but she's a great story.
Did not get an endorsement from the president, but Glenn Young is really working hard to get his lieutenant governor across the finish line against Abigail Spanberger. We'll bring you all that and more. But let's get to the big three. Number three. An invitation from the Heritage Foundation, obviously, is always very special, only more so when it provides an opportunity to talk about Ronald Reagan's visionary strategic defense initiative.
And he was. If we're going to talk about Star Wars, we might as well invite Darth Vader.
So great, and that's how he was known for his detractors, and he relished that. Remembering Dick Cheney, dead at 84. Number two. The shutdown is politically motivated. I believe that if they wanted to, they could find common ground, but they choose not to.
And that has hurt the Republican brand, the Republican reputation. Their numbers are down. But the numbers that have fallen the worst, to my surprise, are the Democrats. It is hurting the Republicans, but it seems to be hurting the Democrats even more. Shutdown, an all-time record, and so is the frustration and the pain from snap to travel.
Republicans aren't budging, but I think Dems break after Election Day, which is today. Number one. One of the interesting things to watch both in Virginia and New Jersey and even in New York City is going to be to dissect the returns and see how many people went from Hispanic voters and from young voters because those are the two voting groups where Donald Trump has lost the most support. Uh, is on election year, off-year election is on everyone's mind. As Dems are expected to get wins on their blue turf, Republicans are looking for upsets.
The first test to see if there are gains. permanent gains. after the Trump win. Look for the blue collar vote. Working class.
Look for the Hispanic vote, where the president got a lot of Hispanic vote, got the majority of the Hispanic vote. And everyone thought the conventional wisdom was: the more Hispanics in our country, the better Democrats will be until Donald Trump came along.
So we'll see if that was just a one-term thing compared to Kamala Harris. Or this is one of those things the Republicans have in their column. And we'll see, but I really look to New Jersey to be the bellwether there. Oh, let's go over to Virginia now. And this will please a lot of our Virginia listeners.
He's running for lieutenant governor on the Republican ticket in Virginia, John Reed. John was on WRVA for years, morning show host, but he's got a great political background. John, it's too close to call right now. What's going through your mind today? Oh, well, listen, I'll go into Election Day with polls showing it's tied.
That means that I'll I guarantee you I'm going to outwork everybody, including my opponent. And I've already been to three precincts this morning, done a whole row of media And I've got uh nine more precincts to go before I get back to my home county of Henrico.
So It is a full-on sprint towards the finish. And I I think when people actually Hear me talk and get an opportunity to meet me when they look at my opponent, who's pretty radical. I call her like mon mon Donnie in a skirt. And I don't think that's an exaggeration. I think they're going with the Republicans, and Winsom's putting up a fight.
Jason is too. I think we're in good shape.
So I want you to hear what Glenn Younken told us last hour on the Brian Kilmead Radio Show about you. Yeah, so that that race again is tight. And he has campaigned like crazy across the state. And so John Reed's got a got a, just like Winston, we get turnout today, and he can win. And then Miaz, Jason Millariz, I believe, is the best attorney general in America.
I really do. One of the reasons is I get sued a lot and he wins. But he has stood strong, strong, strong. for defending Virginians. And I just look back at his record.
It's extraordinary. So that was him a short time ago.
So he's optimistic about you. Yeah, I think there's every reason to be optimistic. It's a question of what Virginians want. Will Republicans turn out? Are they going to coast after the Trump win last year?
Are they going to show up and say we're reclaiming Virginia, holding on to Virginia? And then here's the big thing for independence. If you are not a Republican or you're a Democrat, You got to look and say, what kind of culture of leadership do you want? Do you want someone like me who has been decrying the violence, saying, stop it? We're not all going to agree.
It's okay not to agree, but we cannot harm each other. We can't. Set each other's cars on fire. We can't burn down buildings. We can't attack each other physically.
Or you go with the Democrats, who, you know, now that these text messages are out from the guy who wants to be the top. Cop in Virginia saying it's okay to kill somebody and their family to try to cause them pain. in order to win politically, which vision of Virginia, which Which type of leadership do you want? And this is really important. This is more than just politics.
Culture of what's going to exist in the state going forward. And of course, your opponent couldn't be more inverse to you. I mean, it's not where you say, well, I'm running against a moderate. Nobody thinks that.
So it's going to be a really radical change if you don't win, John. And what you're referring to is Jay Jones writing in a text message from 2022: three people, two bullets: Gilbert, he's a Republican, Hitler, and Paul Pott. Gilbert gets two bullets to the head, put Gilbert on the crew with two worst people you know, and he receives both bullets every time.
So and it gets worse when he says he would also like to take out his kids. And he never did. It wasn't a late-night joke, which would be a bad joke. There was no way to. To justify this, it's revealing of the mindset of the leadership of the modern Democrat Party.
And unfortunately, I don't think it's just Virginia. Virginia has an opportunity to say, no, we're not going to tolerate This behavior. And you know, the woman that I'm running against, She's just counting on the money from the radicals. Carrying her over the finish line. She hasn't done public appearances.
She doesn't do public. I mean, I stood out in front of a building yesterday for 35 minutes and just took. Random questions from every reporter. There were no rules. I stayed longer.
My guy's like, you gotta go, you gotta go. I'm like, no, I'm gonna stand here and answer questions. She won't even do a debate. That's why I had to do that artificial intelligence debate, the first one in the world. Because These people are hiding how radical they are, but the money tells the story.
The same people funding Mom Domini. are funding Gazala Hashmi in Virginia, and I hope people will shut that down.
So John, tell everyone your b we know your radio background. Tell everyone your political background. Yeah, well, you know, my dad was a big Politician in Virginia, which is one reason I left the state and went to Baylor University in Waco, Texas. You know, you don't want to be a preacher's kid or a politician's kid.
So I solved that problem. But then I moved to Los Angeles and worked as President Reagan's last press assistant. after he left the White House, before the Alzheimer's got him. Traveled all around with him, helped draft his remarks and editorials. It was a wonderful job.
Didn't pay anything, but it was. Best job I ever had. He and Mrs. Reagan were so So great to me. And then I was a TV news anchor, investigative reporter for a long time, communications director in the United States Senate.
President of the Press Secretaries Association in Washington. And then I moved overseas and was head of the international division for a global public affairs firm. during the Arab Spring. Uh some dangerous stuff. And that's why I want to stop the conflicts that have happened overseas.
From ever. hitting our shores. We've got to keep this culture of civility And this Western civilization mindset alive here, and we're in danger of losing that. And lastly, how's the shutdown? Do they bla if they blame Trump for the shutdown?
Do you worry it's going to hurt your chances? Oh, you know, I think people are mad about it, but I think Republicans have correctly pushed back to say Like in our case in Virginia, we got two Democrat senators. And every day they go out and talk about how bad the shutdown is, it's hurting the Virginia economy, which is true. But then they walk across the street to the Senate chamber and vote to keep the government closed.
Well, I mean, you can't have it both ways. I know these political tricks. I've seen them from the Democrats for years, and we're calling it out. And that's one reason. Yeah, yeah.
I can just, you know, have cocktails at night. I'm going to take it to these people and hold them accountable. And I'll do it to our party, too, when they start messing up. I'm winning the independent voters because they want somebody who is. open minded, who's liberated, who's tough and strong, and that's the kind of leadership I want to bring, not just play more petty partisan games.
Got it.
Okay, here you go. That's the last interview you do here before we find out until you're Lieutenant Governor John Reed or Lieutenant Governor-elect John Reed. John, best of luck in the sprint to the finish. You're awesome, Brian. Thank you for having me on, always.
You got it. We know the passing of Dick Cheney at the age of 84. You know who knew Dick Cheney quite well? My next guest, Mark Thiessen. Don't move.
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I'm not going to indulge in negative personal attacks. I'm going to talk about the issues that I know matter to the people of this country, education. Healthcare, retirement security, and moral values. I'm going to describe. The plan that Al Gore and I have for keeping America's prosperity going.
I'm delighted to be here tonight with you, Joe. And I, too, want to avoid any personal attacks. Uh I promise uh not to bring up your singing.
So I promise not to sing. Have you noticed a contradiction or hypocritical shift by your opponent? on positions and issues since he was nominated. Boy, we've been trying very hard to keep this on a high plane, Bernie. Thanks, Bernie.
Can you imagine this? I mean, the the tone, do you what do you meant? Mark Deeson here, speechwriter for Donald Rumsfeld, worked with Dick Cheney. But what do you remember about that debate? He's just such a gracious person.
He was a rock-solid conservative, but he was a gracious one at the same time. It's a terrible loss for the country. D didn't mind his attitude as Darth Vader, it seems. It seems like it didn't bother him. He kind of wore it as a badge of honor.
But look, I mean, Dick Cheney is, you know, he was. part one of the most consequential conservatives of the twenty first century. We are now as we next year, we're going to mark the twenty fifth anniversary of the nine eleven attacks. And we all take for granted the fact that we weren't hit again. Right?
It's because of Dick Cheney that we weren't hit again. And George W. Bush together, but it was Cheney who played a huge role in pushing through the CIA interrogation program, which got all the intelligence that wrapped up Abu Zubayda, as you said on the show this morning, on Fox and Friends this morning, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. We wrapped up the Jama'iz Lamia cell that was going to carry out the second wave attacks on the West Coast. We wrapped up the cell that was going to blow up our marine base in Djibouti, which would have been like the Beirut barracks bombing in the 1980s.
We wrapped up a cell that was, I mean, there were just numerous. There was a cell that was going to fly planes into Big Ben and carry out an attack in London that was similar. They weren't just planning to attack us once and then be done with it. There was a wave after wave after wave of attacks planned that we wrapped up all those operatives. That story has to be told because Dick Cheney's passing or not, people just think, oh, we overacted.
That's a conventional wisdom. Even among some Republicans today, oh, you know, we should never have done that. Really?
Well, first of all, the American people, you know, one of the things I found is, you know, Diane Feinstein and all the Democrats waged this huge campaign to try and prove that the CIA interrogation program was morally wrong, that it wasn't effective, and all the rest of it. And every poll, even after all that, majority of Americans said, yes, we were right to do it. And they asked, would you do it again? And they said, absolutely.
So this didn't sway the American people once again.
So the people who are sort of uncomfortable with it, you're uncomfortable with where the majority of Americans are comfortable. Here is Dick Cheney talking about that, Cutty. I'd do it again in a minute. Torture was what the al-Qaeda terrorists did to 3,000 Americans on 9-11. There's no comparison between that and what we did with respect to enhanced interrogation.
And he disputed the report's claim that the interrogation tactics provided no credible information. All of this information in here, no seat of doubt whether this worked or not. It worked. It absolutely did work. And you want to add to that?
100%.
So, first of all, it did work. And by the way, we would have never gotten Osama bin Laden if it hadn't been for the CIA interrogation program. The way we got bin Laden was by following his courier. And we were trying to figure out who the courier was. There was some intelligence about this courier.
And so his interrogator asked him, and the CIA, you know, and he had become very voluminous and was speaking a lot and was giving a lot of information. And as soon as he mentioned this particular courier, he clammed up. And wouldn't say anything. And that was very suspicious. And they ha and the the the detainees had developed a for a way of communicating with each other the in within the the block site.
And so what the CIA smartly did is rather than shutting it down, they left it open so they could. See what they were saying to each other. And as soon as the interrogator asked about that courier, KSM sent a message to all the other detainees: protect the courier. Don't mention, don't just give them any information about the courier because he knew it would lead us straight to bin Laden. That was what allowed us to pick the needle out of the haystack and chase down Bin Laden and find him.
So another area, another debate, which this time with John Edwards. Uh here is Here's a little of that. Remember, he's running for re-election now, again, with John Kerry at the top of the ticket and Edwards number two. Cut six. Senator Franklin, you have a record in the Senate that's not very distinguished.
You've missed 33 out of 36 meetings of the Dish Area Committee. almost 70% of the meetings of the Intelligence Committee. You've missed a lot of key votes on tax policy, on energy, on Medicare reform. Your hometown newspaper has taken to calling you Senator Gone. You've got one of the worst attendance records in the United States Senate.
Now in my capacity as vice president, I am the president of the Senate. The presiding officer. I'm up in the Senate most Tuesdays when they're in session. The first time I ever met you was when you walked on the stage tonight. Wow.
I did not remember that. And how gently delivered. It was just like Edwards didn't even know the knife was in his body. Until uh until it was too late.
So I look, you know, obviously a gracious statement from Bush 43. What do you think Donald Trump is going to say, knowing that his bitter enemy, Liz Cheney, did everything to put him in prison? Yeah, so you know, I don't want to say anything uh about Liz today because she's grieving the loss of her father and uh and so, you know, I I really don't want to sort of g uh get deeply into that, but I would say that Dick Cheney I I guarantee you Dick Cheney loved Operation Midnight Hammer. He knew Iran was a problem his whole life. Yeah, he would have had no problem with anything that Donald Trump was doing.
He would have been fine with him bombing the Houthis. He would have been fine with him bombing the Iranian nuclear program. He would have cheered on taking on Venezuela and taken out these drug boats using basically authorities that Dick Cheney pioneered during the drone strikes. And he would have been completely for threatening the Nigerians. I think there's a lot that he would like about Donald Trump's liked about his foreign policy in the first term, and he loved killing cassipola money, I can promise you.
But he sided with his daughter. You could totally understand. Who wouldn't side with their daughter? I mean, family is more important than politics. And so, as you said this morning on the air, and I worry that that whole controversy.
Made the Cheney name unpopular with some conservatives. And he should be remembered as a conservative hero today because that's what he was. I hear you. Also, when you look at they did a movie about him called Vice, and I think it got awards. See, they made him more powerful than he actually was.
But that's how, if people are saying to themselves, I don't really know him too well, or you're 20 years old. Don't watch that. Yeah. But you might be thinking to yourself, what did this guy do? You're better off on YouTube looking at old clips.
Watch him spar, not spar, but interview with Tim Russard or all the Sunday shows. He was as good as anybody. In the most controversial times. Yeah, and also, I mean, his career, as you mentioned this morning, spanned back. He was one of the youngest White House chief of staff ever.
He was Secretary of Defense during the Persian Gulf War, which was the moment that America flexed its muscle for the first time after the collapse of the Soviet Union and established itself as the world's only superpower. And that action led to a decade of peace. Mark Thiessen, thanks so much. Are you going to do the election coverage tonight? No, but I'm going to be on outnumbered tomorrow.
All right, as Mark Thiessen. You're playing yourself. I'm playing myself. Back in a moment. Mm-hmm.
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So we're bumping in with Leonard Skinner for a great reason. Joining us now is Johnny Van Zandt. One of the founding members of the band, and Taylor Van Zandt. They have a great message. They have a big fundraiser tonight, Rockin' for a Cure, something that Taylor found out that she had.
And Johnny Van Sand, a great friend of the show, and of course, everybody in WOKV, one of our great affiliates, knows about him because he does personify what Jacksonville is. And Johnny and Taylor, welcome to Brian Killmeat Show. Hey, thank you. Thank you for having us. Thank you, buddy.
How are you? It's good to see you two together.
So glad we're able to Zoom.
So if you're watching at home, hop on the stream.
So, first off, Johnny, always great to see you. Tell everyone, or Taylor, if you want to tell everyone what happened to you and why you're battling back so hard. Thank you.
So I was diagnosed last year with a rare disease called CCM, or a cerebral cavernous malformation of my brain. It's a mass in the brain that affects the capillaries.
So last year, at the age of 22, I had two brain hemorrhages. Wow. And when did you realize, like, obviously, the doctors were there, they helped you through it. When did you realize this wasn't just a one-off? This is a problem that you had?
Yeah, so I mean, I've always struggled with my health a little bit, but every time I'd go to the doctors or get any blood tests, they'd reassure me that I was okay. And then one morning, I just woke up and the right side of my body was completely numb.
So I rushed to the emergency room. They did an MRI and they found the mass in my brain. John, yeah, what was hell like for you? Yeah, it's been a difficult time. You know what?
But we're very blessed. She hasn't had any more. Bleeds and so many people with this. Brian, the reason why we're doing this is that we're trying to bring awareness to this. Because when this first happened, they thought it was the C word, not cavanoma, but the other C word.
And they wanted to do biopsies on it. And we were like, no, no, no, we're going to get a second opinion. Luckily, here in Jacksonville, we have the Mayo Clinic. And they came in, did some work up on our MRIs and stuff. Actually, everybody had other doctors consulting with doctors and came up with this.
There's very little research, really no research right now, as it stands, and nothing for people to take. When you're bleeding, they can give you steroids to help it calm down. But there's people that are born. With multiple ones, Taylor has one, but there's people that are born with multiple ones. And you know what?
We're just here trying to raise money for research and bring awareness to this awful, awful disease because a lot of people have them. What is it? One out of five? No, so we would think that it's one in 500 people that have it, but we don't really know because there are many people who have it and they never become symptomatic.
So they can go their whole lives with it and never have any complications.
So, how are you feeling now? I feel good. I, you know, I really just want to. make this my mission to bring awareness and help fund a cure. I understood.
And now you be are you be treated regularly, the Mayo Clinic's helping you? Or are they in a situation where they're maintaining your health?
So, really, the only thing they can do is either brain surgery or monitor you with MRIs. Yeah, and a lot of this is with gut health, too, Brian. We're finding out, you know. The gut. Feeds the brain.
Yeah, there's a lot of correlation between your gut health and your brain health.
So there is like a strict diet you can go on, but really the only thing you can do is get brain surgery, and that's not an option for everybody. My mass is very deep in my brain. And it's pushing on my corticospinal tract which controls my So brainstorm ski for me. Um and also a fact And Brian, by the way, the event is tomorrow night at the Porsche Dealership on Atlantic Boulevard. It goes live, a live stream tomorrow night.
It's up already on people can bid on so many great artists who've given so much stuff. Thank you for getting us all them books and hooking us up with live all those guys that can. From all the Fox anchors. Oh, there you go. Yeah, all the Fox Anchors, man.
I mean, those books are wonderful. I'm going to bid on them myself. Yeah. Uh yeah, that that would be counterproductive, Johnny, but it I guess you were giving us So, you also have Doug Fluti is going to be down there as well. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, you got your band is going to be there, Brett Myers is going to be there.
So it's going to be a big event and it's going to be happening in a local area, but you don't have to necessarily attend to be a part of it. You can take it in, and there's ways to contribute, right? Yes, yes. Yes, so if you go to Rockin, R-O-C-K-I-N. For the number four, a cure.com.
You don't it doesn't cost anything to just look at the items, but you can also just donate there if you don't want to bid on anything. Yeah, if you don't have the money to bid, hey, go give one dollar to the Cavanoma Alliance. It'll go a long ways.
So, Johnny, how is Leonard Skinner doing? What kind of touring schedule are you on? We're doing good, man. We just went this year, man, we were over in Europe, we were up in Canada, and of course, all over our great country. Country here.
And next year we're out with Foreigner doing all the amphitheaters and onward and upward, Brian. You got to come to a show. Hold that flag again with me, man. We were in West Virginia. We were doing the show the next day, but we were done.
And we said, wait a second, Leonard Skinner's next door. We got in, and then you spotted us and you had me come up on the stage and hold that flag. You have the only guy. You're the only guy I've ever ran out into the audience and got. I know.
I was totally honored. I couldn't believe it. I thought you were running to somebody behind me. I had no idea. But I was just there in my hoodie hanging out.
So yeah, then you told me about this. I think it's really important to get the word out. And the thing is, the more you can bring some attention to it, then the more research goes into it. The more research goes into it is because money gets into it and money gets doctors' attention because they can't do it without the support. Brian, we were so surprised nobody knew about these.
I mean, we were like, there were multiple doctors. She's with a great newer surgeon at Baptist now here in Jacksonville, Dr. Hannell. And he goes around and does lectures on these things because there's very. Very little information out there about them.
Yeah, absolutely.
So, thank you for letting us be on your show to spread the word. Thank you.
Yeah, and hopefully, people can get down there. I just know the flights right now with traveling is not easy, but if people are planning to go, give yourself some time if you're running over to the airport. But let me ask some, Johnny, just about a couple of things about Southern Rock. Do you believe Southern Rock was the precursor to this new country we're seeing today? Yeah, I mean if you if you Go ask a lot of these newer country artists who their influences would be.
It would probably be the Almond Brothers, Leonard Skinner, you know, the Southern thing. And, you know, and it amazes me. But then again, you can go into the heavy metal. You know, category two, like the guys from Metallica love Skinner.
So it's like, The the music of Skynnard has been really across all genres, you know. I mean, it really has. We've we played with heavy metal bands and we played with Tim McGraw and Lady Annabelle, so you know, I mean, it it's it's pretty crazy. It is. And and Taylor, for you, what was it what has it been like growing up with a famous dad?
She doesn't like it. No, that's not true. I'm very blessed and very grateful. But, you know, to me, it's normal. He's just my dad.
So, you know, my friends would come over and we'd have sleepovers, and he'd embarrass me and drop me off at school and embarrass me like a normal dad. I'm still embarrassing her, Brian. And helping her. Taylor, congratulations to you to look at a disease like this. Instead of it getting you down, it spurred you to action.
How tough was that decision? You know, after my first bleed, I felt really grateful and blessed, and I thank God every day for just the chance to be alive and to walk and talk and breathe and see, and you know, things that we tend to take for granted. But after my second bleed, it kind of hit me and. I realize the severity of my situation and that it's not really in my control. And so all I can do is, you know.
Try not to worry over things that aren't in my control and do what I can to be productive and you know. Do things that are in my control, which is spread awareness. And this is the first problem. Yeah, and this is the first fundraiser, right? Yes, sir.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what? We didn't know. We're going through St. Michael Soldiers, who's a great organization down here, Kathy and Jim Signorelli.
And when we were, to be very honest, we listened into one of her forums that they have where people from all over the world kind of talk about this and they kind of help each other get through the times. And they had just lost a pharmaceutical research. We did have a clinical trial going, but unfortunately, we were like two years into it. It stopped. It stopped.
And I just heard all these people, me and my wife, Lisa, heard all these people feel, you know, you could just feel their faith and their hope kind of going away with that clinical trial. We were like, we got to do something, you know?
So the first thing I did was personally donate to the Calvin Oma Alliance. And then we were like, okay, well, let's go even farther. Let's try to spread the word. Let's get it out there and do some good. And you're doing that November 5th, tomorrow, rockin'forcure.com.
Johnny and Taylor Van Zand, thanks so much for joining us today. Best of luck tomorrow night. I know it's going to go great. Thank you.
Thank you, Brian. God bless you, buddy. You got it. Back with Barney and Company in a moment. It's Will Kane Country.
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Now, the Brian Kilmead Show joins Fox Business's Varney and Company with Stuart Varney, live on your radio and on Fox Business. Here's Brian Kilmead. If they wear a back end at the back end, I'm usually having a little bit of time to take some calls if you want to get on board. Uh that'll be great or BrianKillMe.com is where to write. A lot of people talking about Dick Cheney and his passing at the age of 84.
He was never a beloved character, but very well respected. I think Democrats like to hate him, but they had to respect him. He was a conservative stalwart. And I think if you go back in the Reagan administration, it began in the Nixon administration, then over the Ford administration and all the bushes from 41 to 43, both terms. He just played a huge, valuable role.
So let's listen to Stuart Varney. It's now 10.51 Eastern. That means it's time for Brian Kilmead. Brian, good morning. President Trump wants New Yorkers to vote for Cuomo.
Trump said, quote, we must also remember this, a vote for Curtis Sleever is a vote for Mandami. Whether you personally like Andrew Cuomo or not, you really have no choice. You must vote for him and hope he does a fantastic job. He's capable of it. Mandami is not.
All right, Brian, do you think Cuomo has a chance? I do. He was on with us on Fox and Friends about 8:45 a.m. this morning, Eastern. And one thing he said is that really Trump did the perfect thing.
Because in the city of New York, Donald Trump is not popular. In the state of New York, he gets around 40%, 45%. But in the city of New York, he doesn't.
So if he came out and said, Cuomo's the guy's going to turn this city around, that is a kiss of death. At the same time, he's just saying, I'm going to give you a practical recommendation for those people that do like me in the city I used to dominate and you used to love me. because now he came out as a Republican. That's, I think he did the perfect thing because if he endorsed him, it would have been bad. Just like he couldn't have endorsed Eric Adams either, even though they were working together fine.
My sense is the more people vote, the better it is for Cuomo. And remember, the polls had Cuomo winning that primary prior to Mondami winning substantially.
So we don't know what to expect except for the turnout went from over 100,000 four years ago for mayor to over 760,000 this time for early voting.
So that's what Como was telling us before he actually hopped on the air. He goes, the turnout's been phenomenal so far on Election Day, which is today. You know, at the end of the day today, we could have three American cities with a socialist mayor. New York, the Mandami. Minneapolis, one of the frontrunners there is a socialist, and the same is true of Seattle.
If those three guy people don't get very large margins of victory, It will not look good for the socialists going forward within the Democrat Party. They've got to win big, and I don't think they will.
Well, I mean, the the Somali American who campaigns with a Somali flag, an interesting way to win over an American City in Minneapolis. I mean, I'm not a big fan of the current guy that is there right now in Minneapolis. We remember how he basically let a police station burn to the ground during the pandemic and the George Floyd riots. But For this radical socialist with no experience to get up there and really. Have an excellent chance of winning today, it's got to concern Democrats.
I mean, the Wall Street Journal has a great story today, an editorial, saying that regardless, if the socialists do well today, the brawl starts between the people that looked as moderates like Shapiro and Bashir and Fetterman. And then you have AOC and Bernie Sanders and Mandami, if he's prevail, they get the biggest crowds. They have the excitement. They get the big interviews.
So they got to decide. What personality do they want to adopt? Because they both can't live together, although President Obama is an advisor to Mondami, always there for Mondami, but won't endorse Mondami. Um We've got the Democrats' favorability rating is down to, I think it's now 29%. Do you see that improving at all after these elections?
Well, I think we got the elections, and then you have. The shutdown. And then, who's going to get blamed for the shutdown? I mean, it's pretty clear the Republicans keep voting to try to open up the government, and there's one party that doesn't. Republicans got lambasted when they were in the minority and did something similar.
And maybe justifiably so. I want this to end. You know, the innocent people are being hurt by now: people that want to fly, people that get on their snap programs, air traffic controllers who want this thing called a paycheck. I mean, why are they paying the price? This is political sparring.
And I think that how that ends will decide how high up the profile gets for the Democrats. But so far, please tell me one thing: what do they have except for Trump is terrible? All they have is anti-Trump rhetoric. I don't hear any programs. Don't tell me Obamacare is working.
I gave you health care. If it was working, you wouldn't need any subsidies by now. Open the border again? Why not?
Something. All right, Brian Kilmey. We'll be looking for those results, and we'll see you again soon. All right, thank you. All right, I see the b uh up there, John, um John, Sandra and Danny.
We'll get to you shortly. But just another thing to bring up with Sid uh what uh Stuart Varney just brought up, and that is as a mayor's race in Minneapolis has been overwhelmed by the New York race, because bigger city, uh more publicity, more um More publicity, and obviously, all the media outlets are here. But in Minneapolis, Elon Omar is going to the help backing. Going to the hilt, backing the opponent of Jacob Fry, who's in that position. His name is Omar Fatah, the son of Somali immigrants, and he is an avowed democratic socialist and proud of it, just like Elon Omar.
And this guy is trying to radicalize, excuse me, I guess activate the Somali community, many of which relocated over to Minnesota. I remember going to the RNC there, and I couldn't believe the number of Somalis they just chose to relocate in one of the coldest climates in the country, coming from a very hot African environment. But Fatah is running for mayor on a platform advocating for rent stabilization. Does that sound familiar? Raising the minimum wage, does that sound familiar?
And reforming how the city handles public safety, does that sound familiar? That's more than a little bit scary, I think. In Seattle, in incumbent Bruce Harrell, hasn't done much. We know Seattle's going to hell, but it turns out he has somebody rising up called Katie Wilson. Katie Wilson is a socialist.
Insiders say that she's a powerful advocate for left-wing causes who worked the halls of government but never sat behind a desk. Keep in mind, same thing with Mandami. He's had one job. It was a camp counselor. The other one was an assemblyman.
He had five staffers.
Now he's going to have 300,000 staffers. Do you think, does anyone think he's ready? Wall Street Journal does a poll. Even though he's winning in the election, they said, how many people here think he's ready? 39% thought he was ready.
Are you crazy? Yet you're going to vote for him? You know he's not ready? They're literally tossing a coin in the air. I mean, that's on your time.
Hey, don't forget One Nation, Sundays at 10 o'clock, and you could always get tickets early for the February 14th show in Fort Myers History, Livery, and Laughs. Brian Kilmicha. Don't move. From Hayatop, Fox News Headquarters. In New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division.
It's Brian Kill Me. Hi, boy. Welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kill Me Show.
So glad you're here, and I'm very glad my guest is actually in the studio. Rare occurrence. He just was able to brave, I guess, find a plane that was actually flying with an air traffic control that was actually working. I don't know if his trade table was up or down. Anyone was policing them, if anyone was getting paid.
But Carl Rove is in studio. Brett Baer at the bottom of the hour. And Carl, big election day. I mean, here we are. Big for an off year.
Big for an offer. And I mean it's We go through this every four years: New York, New Jersey, Virginia, but it's bigger because of the nature of. of who's on the ballot and what the consequences of it are. Absolutely. So let's get to the big three.
Number three. An invitation from the Heritage Foundation, obviously, is always very special, only more so when it provides an opportunity to talk about Ronald Reagan's visionary strategic defense initiative. I'm sure Ed Fullner thought, well, If we're going to talk about Star Wars, we might as well invite Darth Vader. That is Vice President Dick Cheney with a wry sense of humor. Sadly, he passed away at the age of 84.
We're going to talk to Carl about working with the Vice President. Number two. The shutdown is politically motivated. I believe that if they wanted to, they could find common ground, but they choose not to. And that has hurt the Republican brand, the Republican reputation.
Their numbers are down. But the numbers that have fallen the worst, to my surprise, are the Democrats. It is hurting the Republicans, but it seems to be hurting the Democrats even more. We'll take a look and ask Carl Rove that about the shutdown, where an all-time record of frustration and pain is everywhere from snap to travel. Republicans aren't budging, but I think the Dems are beginning to talk about a deal under the leadership sometime this week.
Number one. One of the interesting things to watch both in Virginia and New Jersey, and even in New York City, is going to be to dissect the returns and see how many people went from Hispanic voters and from young voters, because those are the two voting groups where Donald Trump has lost the most support. We'll see if that is in fact true. One, this is an off-year election, yes. On everyone's mind, the Dems expected to win.
They're fighting this on blue turf. They're supposed to win in New Jersey. They're supposed to win in Virginia. They obviously will win in New York City. But by how much and what will deliver the victory?
And is New Jersey really primed for an upset? That's we'll begin. I want to start. And I think, no, actually, the polite thing would be, and the right thing would be to talk about Dick Cheney in the middle of Fox and Friends. Actually, in the first hour, we hear he passed away at the age of 84.
At 37, he had his first heart attack. He's had five of them his entire life, got a heart transplant. He's always been battling it. It didn't seem to slow him down. But the career he had to put in perspective, huge impact on America.
First of all, he's got a very interesting background. Born in, I think, Lincoln, Nebraska, grew up in Casper, Wyoming. Uh modest. Upbringing, dad was a federal bureaucrat with the conservation service of the IAG Department. Gets a full ride to Yale.
'Cause he's so bright. and then gets kicked out not once but twice for uh spending too much time imbibing. Drinking. And goes back to to uh to Casper, goes to work as a lineman for the telephone company, which you know, even on a pleasant day in Wyoming is not an easy job. And marries his high school sweetheart.
Uh and Goes to the University of Wisconsin because he's incredibly bright, incredibly smart. Becomes a congressional fellow, which is a very highly sought-after opportunity. Goes to work for a congressman from Wisconsin named Bill Steiger and never goes back, never graduated from college. Did you know that? No, never graduated from college.
No, never got his B.A. And goes to work for Bill Steiger. Bill Steiger is a bright force in the Republican Party at that time, in the House. And he has a great friend who's another bright young face, congressman from the North Shore of Chicago, Don Rumsfeld. Rumsfeld goes into the Knicks administration, brings along Dick Cheney, who's I think maybe 30 at the time.
works in the in the Nixon administration. Uh Nixon leaves. Rummy is close to Gerald Ford. Goes into the White House and and at the age of thirty-four. Dick Cheney becomes the youngest White House chief of staff in history.
White House Chief of Staff. He then went uh after uh Carter defeats Ford. He goes back to Wyoming, gets elected to the U.S. House from Wyoming, one congressional seat from the state, gets elected and is made a member of the Republican House leadership in his first term. His first term.
He is that bright, that able, serves for 10 years, becomes the Republican leader in the House. Then he is brought into the Bush 41's administration as Secretary of Defense, presides over the first Gulf War, after the defeat in 1992, goes to work in the private sector, running the world's largest oilfield service company, Halliburton, and it's from there that he becomes George W. Bush's vice president. This guy has spent, this man spent his life in service to his country, and I knew him well. We became close friends and He was an astonishing person to be around and to work with, so smart, so able, knew what his role was, knew that he was there in order to give the President his candid advice with the Barkov.
So much has been missed about him. One of the nicest people on the face of the planet, and a really good colleague and friend. The way I understand it, and he said this, and my personal belief is this is true. The criticism didn't bother him. The Darth Vader side commented.
He made fun of it. He loved that. I mean, I wouldn't say he loved it, but he made light of it. Was it tough balancing the fact that this young? Republican governor from Texas without any known foreign policy experience, hires a lot of experienced people like Colin Powell and Donald Rumsfeld, the second time he's Secretary of Defense, and then Dick Cheney.
How did you, as an advisor to the President, make sure that Dick Cheney was the perception wasn't that Dick Cheney was running the White House?
Well, look, that was that the press was going to run with that. They simply knew it. In fact, it's in 1920. Bush is thinking about who his running mate ought to be. And we were looking at nine people, and we had these big, thick notebooks.
The guy in charge of the process was Dick Cheney, assisted by his brilliant young lawyer daughter, Liz Cheney. And they compiled these thousands of pages of material and boiled it down to nine big thick notebooks. And the more Bush went through this process, the more he liked the cast of Cheney's mind and became convinced Cheney ought to be his running mate. And I was against the idea, and he knew it.
So Bush is out on the campaign trail. He calls me up, and he says, I'm going to be back tonight late, as you know. Tomorrow morning at 10 o'clock, I want you to come to the governor's mansion, and I want you to make the case why I should not go with Dick Cheney. I want to know why you don't want me to go with Cheney.
So come prepared. 10 o'clock the next morning, I show up at the governor's mansion, sitting in the Austin Library, named after Stephen F. Austin. It's about half the size of this. It's not much, it's smaller than this room that we're in here today, your studio.
And I'm sitting on one side of the room, Bush is on the other. He says, okay, why shouldn't I go? Cheney, I have a list, eight reasons. I still have the piece of paper. Number one, don't worry about Wyoming.
Number two, the guy had his first heart attack at 37, been working on perfecting it ever since, had four more. You know, number three, a very conservative congressman 18 years ago from a very conservative state and cast some really stupid votes, like being one of three members of the House of Representatives to vote against the resolution calling on the South African apartheid regime to release Nelson Mandela from the island prison where he didn't have health care and move him to the mainland prison where he would get a doctor. And Cheney's one of three who votes no. You know, we've worked really hard to develop an image of you as your own guy, not mini-me to your dad.
Okay, great. Let's pick the guy who's the Secretary of Defense for your dad in a time of war. Everybody's going to be saying he's running the West Wing. People are worried about you being an oilman. What the hell?
Let's get the guy who runs the world's largest oil field service equipment. That issue is going to go away in the Midwest and the Mid-Atlantic. And anyway, Bush, as you know, President Bush is not a monologue guy.
So this is like World Wrestling Federation. I mean, we're going at it. He wants you to come that hard, right? Yeah, he wanted to. That's the way he operated it.
And I literally, at the end of the conversation, after 30, 35 minutes, I realized I couldn't unbutton my coat because I had sweat through my shirt. It was so high intense. And final reason was the 12th Amendment, blah, blah, blah.
So Bush says, Got anything else? I said, No, that's it, sir. He said, Good, really, really good. Turns to the guy sitting next to him and says, Dick, got any questions for Carl? Chaney'd been sitting there while I kicked his ass around for half an hour.
Wow. And as we walked out, Cheney said, I agree with some of what you had to say. And we became, he never held it against me. We became close. You know, did he want it?
He wanted to do what the president wanted to do. No, he didn't really want to do it. But the president said, I need you. I want somebody as my As my assistant, you know, as my deputy, as my vice president, who's going to walk into the Oval Office and give me their considered opinion. And I'll make the call.
And you'll accept it. And that Bush knew from having seen the Reagan White House and his father's White House how powerful that office is and how easy it is for a President to get isolated, and he wanted somebody who would give it to him straight. Each and every time. And he gave Cheney some specific responsibilities. I served on a committee that was not public where we vetted and kept a running list of prospective Supreme Court nominees.
And Cheney and I, I think, were the only two people who weren't lawyers. And now that I realize it, we were also the only two members of the committee who never graduated from college. You know, and we became friends. We went hunting almost every year after about 2003 or 4 and hunting together. He loved to fish.
He loved bird hunt and he was a really kind person and uh smart smart and smart. Oh, unbelievably smart. And the kind of person who would read something and immediately grasp the important elements of it and have the best questions. I mean, that was one of the great things about him is that he didn't know it all. But he wanted to know as much as he could.
So, I want you to hear Dick Cheney in 2018 talking about the criticism that he got from 41, cutting on. First of all, I was more, I guess, of an iron ass when I was vice president. The thing that had intervened between my time at defense for 41 and my time as vice president was 9-11. We'd had 3,000 of our people killed on 9-11, more people than we lost at Pearl Harbor. And we moved, I think, legitimately into a wartime setting rather than simple law enforcement.
I think it was important to do that.
Now after uh he made those comments Um he uh Sent me a note. One of the notes are great to have. This one said, Dear Dick, I did it. And then he went on at great length to us. Tell me what a great American I was.
But he also, that year, we went to the annual Alf Alpha Club. He enjoyed those dinners. And he invited me to sit at the head table with him at the dinner, and that sort of dampened down any notion that there was a fundamental break between Bush and Cheney. Because you want to give some context to that, I guess 41 had called him an iron ass. Yeah, and irony.
It's changed a lot since he was my Secretary of Defense. Yeah. Yeah, but look, both men were right. He had become more. He had been.
I don't want to use the word radicalized, but his attitude had changed as it did for a lot of people after 9-11. You know, we had the first attack on the World Trade Center, and we turned it over to the Southern District in New York and the FBI and blindly went forward. The realization by the Commander-in-Chief and the Vice President after 9-11 was that we had to fight them over there so we didn't have to fight them over here again. More about the election, just we'll take a timeout so we have a full segment. You brought your whiteboard for radio because you know we're streaming, I guess.
Yeah, I know you're streaming, and I also wanted you to you're I've found that you're always better if you give a visual aid to Brian Kilman. It helps him ingest the information better. You dumped it down for me, Carl. I owe you a favor. Back in a moment.
From breaking news to big name guests, Brian brings you insight you won't hear anywhere else. You're listening to the Brian Kill Me Show. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Killmead. It's November.
November It's been five weeks. since Democrats shut down the government. And once again, We start this week by asking is this The weak. The Democrats end their shutdown.
So that is Jon Thune, hardly a firebrand, most level-headed guy in Washington. Carl Rove's with us now. Carl, when does this end?
Well, it's we got to get the election behind us, and we got to have the adults on both sides start to talk and bring it to closure. Senator Thune is absolutely right. I mean, think about the hypocrisy of this. When the Democrats hold the White House, and want a clean CR, that's really a clean CR. That's just simply taking what the Congress approved already and moving it forward.
The Republicans say no. And when the Republicans are in power... And want a clean CR like this is. This is not a gimmick. It's that we're going to take the, in essence, the policies that were in place when Biden was there and continue them.
While we arrive at a new budget, the Democrats say no. And it it you know, they said yes in March, absolutely. But Now they're saying no. Why? Because they feel like this is necessary to placate the far left of their party and to show that they're standing up to Donald Trump.
In the meantime, the largest financial enterprise in the On the face of the planet the US government does not operate under an annual budget. And that is just absurd. I mean, if they got their appropriations bills done, Because they passed through the House and the Senate got it done. They're supposed to be in, ideally, they're supposed to be in conference and get this done by September, right? Right, right.
And the House. They never do.
Well, they haven't for. 10 plus years. But look, the House passed three of the biggest bills, including military. Uh and veterans and funding the legislative branch. And They passed him through the House.
The Senate was not able to take him up. I mean, we have bills that if the normal process was in place, we'd have most of the government already permanently funded for the year.
So, how does this end? I mean, we think that for the Democrats to have an off-ramp, they have to have some guarantees that they are going to discuss Obamacare subsidies, right? Do you put that in writing? They say, We don't trust the President.
Well, they have to have an agreement among leaders of the Congress.
Now, the good news is that, look. The Republican chief appropriator in the Senate is Susan Collins of Maine, whom they trust. The chief appropriator in the House is Tom Cole of Oklahoma, whom they should trust.
So I think a lot of this is going to start to get behind us once we get past the election. They're going to continue to push for, you know, you got a cave, you got a cave, you got a cave. But the Republicans in the House and the Senate, you start to hear: yes, we want to do something about rural health. And we wanted we're open to having some continuation of the COVID-era Affordable Care Act. Subsidies, but only if we pass them with some reforms as well, because we're worried about.
Fraud. We're worried about people who are making $1.5 million a year getting their health care subsidized, while we're worried about picking up the cost of subsidizing somebody who makes $100,000 a year. But aren't we also looking at the failure of Obamacare? Oh, yeah, the Affordable Care Act. This is the whole thing.
And it worked, there'd be no problem. Yeah, absolutely.
Look, we as a country are facing this coming with Medicare as well, because Medicare and Social Security, their trust funds get extinguished here in like 2033 and 2035 because we're running out of money. We've made a promise we can't keep. I would suggest to you that we have the answer. And the answer is Medicare Part D. That was the reform passed in 2002, which said we're going to give a fixed amount of money to every senior and allow them to go out and buy a drug coverage that meets their needs, and it's going to be the consumer in charge, and the insurers and the pharmacy, the pharmaceutical companies, are going to compete for your business.
When they passed it, the The CBO said, This is what it's going to cost over 10 years. Here's how many people we anticipate signing up, and here's what's called the utilization rate. How much are they going to use it? Passed the programme, but passed in the House by one vote. Passed the Senate by a big bipartisan vote, goes into effect.
Three bad things happen. More people sign up, they sign up quicker, and the utilization rate is higher. But yet, at the end of the 10-year window, it cost 40% less than expected. Why? Because the choice of by putting the consumer in charge, it caused the market to respond.
People competed for their business. They found creative ways to satisfy the need of seniors who needed prescription drug coverage. And it contributed to a decline in overall health care costs. Yeah, we're going to have to see if they can work something out if they agree to a CR until, what, December? Yeah.
If they get to do that. We're not going to get major reform of the Affordable Care Act. We will get some reform, but we've got to think longer term here. Thanks, Carl. Information you want, truth you demand.
This is the Brian Kill Me Show. Hey, we are back. Brett Baer back in studio. I used to think, wow, he really loves this show. He's back in studio again.
I must be really good at hosting. And then I realized it's Election Day, and he's here anyway.
So all he had to do was take the elevator. I don't feel quite as special, but he is. His book is number two on the New York Times list. Number two, yeah.
Well, it's called To Rescue the American Spirit, Teddy Roosevelt and the Birth of a Superpower. The special is really good, too. It's on Fox Nation right now. Yeah, same name. And I do think it's really a good encapsulation.
So download it and watch it. It's a good appetizer for the book.
So in two weeks, I'm going to be seeing the building of the Teddy Roosevelt Library in North Dakota. One of our great affiliates has invited me and Jimmy Phela, who a lot of people think is extremely funny and talented. You don't.
Well, you know, there are days. There are days. No, of course you're a big supporter. We're going to go up there. They carry our show.
And I went up there to interview Doug Bergam. Have you ever been to North Dakota? Yeah, I have. Isn't it an amazing place? It's beautiful.
And I think. I think he is really the reason that library is there. He was a big advocate as governor and a huge TR supporter. But do you realize what happened simultaneously? Those idiots took Teddy Roosevelt's statue out of the front of Museum of Natural History, which his family created because they said an Indian and a black man walking behind me was insulting.
No, it wasn't buying him. That's part of his legacy. That was never meant to be an insult. Nobody, the designer, never thought that. No one ever thought that.
And actually, the fevers broke. The fever broke. And I would think if Mondami lost, we might be able to bring it back. But I don't think North Dakota is going to give it up because they have it now. Yeah, they have it.
And they have a lot of great stuff. And when that library opens July 3rd, I think it is, it is going to be one of the premier libraries because they've put in high-tech stuff. It's a beautiful site. I've seen the renderings. It's really, really going to be spectacular.
They see, I know this is a crazy analogy, but they see what Mount Rushmore's done for South Dakota. Right.
Right.
And they say, why are we? We're not a tourist. This is the beginning of putting North Dakota on the map. And Roosevelt would be. Thrilled with that because he loved being in the badlands of Dakota Territory.
Trevor Burrus, Jr.: And did he ever predict, do you think, that a socialist would one day be the contender to be a mayor of New York City? No, and I don't think he would predict that his statue was torn down inside the museum either. But I think that that is going to be the biggest story of tonight. That if it holds and if the betting markets are right, which they are kind of going heavy. Heavy?
Heavy. Even though the turnout's great. Yeah, I saw that. And I saw the interview with Cuomo on Fox and Friends with you guys. You know, he's become a better candidate in the latter days.
I think he was such a poor candidate at the beginning. Did he try? I don't know. I mean, maybe he thought it was like a layup, but he lost the primary, so he shouldn't have thought it was a layup.
So here's the thing. Even leading up to the primary, I never saw. I never saw a poll that had him within double digits. And then Mondami had that meltdown with Tom Holman up in Albany. And they go, you know, that guy is running for mayor?
I go, okay, he just eliminated himself. Nobody would ever vote for somebody that unhinged because Tom Holman showed up in Albany.
So he gets it. But does it show you at all, Brett? And you look at the numbers much more than I do, that if they were that wrong about the primary up until the last week, could they be that wrong about the overall election when instead of 400,000, you get millions showing up? Yeah, I mean listen. Could the polls be collectively wrong?
Could the betting markets be collectively wrong? Yes, heading into Election Day. And if Cuomo has this massive turnout, and if there's anything that's going to motivate voters, it's Being scared of what's going to happen. I mean, that's the biggest driver for voters. A lot of times, it's, you know, not necessarily support for XYZ policy.
It's, I'm worried about the other guy. And so, if the other guy is Mondani and you're a real estate agent and worried about the price of what you're selling, or that you're going to lose a ton of people exodus from New York, I think it's real. Media Research Company did a study, and they say 93% of the late-night talk show hosts had negative things to say about Mondami's opponents, not him. You saw the easy time he got with Jon Stewart is as bright as anybody who does this, and you know, he could be direct if he wanted, but let him glide. And I'm not asking, and the thing that surprised me is it's not.
Sliwa against Mandami set five points separating. Cuomo, right? Everyone, Democrats liked Cuomo for a long time.
So you just gave Cuomo no time and you gave a glide path to Mondami. What is the attraction to something so different than anything we've experienced that is counter to America's free market system? I don't know. I really don't know, other than they're betting on the business of the power on the left, that that's going to be the direction of the Democratic Party, and that's where they're betting. But I mean, I saw an interview with Ari Melber, who's on, I think it's 6 o'clock opposite me, but he.
He had Momdani on and he asked him questions like: What's your favorite bodega? What's your favorite subway? Trained to take. Like, he gave him like six. Multiple choice, and it was just kind of a fun, fun interview.
And I don't know. I think that if you have somebody that has policies that are so different than what we've seen, maybe you don't want to dig in a little bit. Right.
As I ask in Zelensky, now that you're in New York, what's your favorite place to visit? Oh, okay. Oh, by the way, and we have some time. Russia? Win, lose?
Yeah, yeah. Here's Mondami talking about his programs. He says they're indeed possible, isn't it? Cut 10. This clearly has precedent.
We saw the previous administration do this three times. And we are living in a time of politics where politicians try to convince the public that there's nothing they can do. And so to even have the idea that we could actually help people, it's seen as a departure from what so many are being told in this moment. And freezing the rent, right? This is about 2.5 million New Yorkers in a city of 8.5 million.
The mayor has the power to freeze their rent. I am saying I'm going to do that for four years.
Well Cuomo said to us directly two hours ago They can't. Mayors can't freeze the rent. Obviously, the former governor would know that. He goes, it's another board independently picked decide to freeze the rent. And plus, that's not the way it works.
You freeze the rent.
Someone's going to pay the price for that. These guys will decide, hey, and whoever owns this place, it's better off leaving this empty than rented at the rate I have to have it. And that's why we have so many empty apartments in the city that needs places to live. Yeah. I mean, it's kind of market economy.
And the fact that New York is structured the way it is, the governor has a lot more power when it comes to some things than the mayor does. Can the mayor do a lot? Yes. Especially when it comes to police, especially when it comes to how things operate. Um I'm not sure that the grocery stores and the buses even can get through You know, as far as how he envisions it, I think it might be a tough one.
We have this brilliant idea to cro to charge people for crossing through the city, congestion pricing, because they said the MTA is out of money.
Well, an interesting way to attack that deficit is to give it away.
So you're charging me to drive over the bridge into the go to from the Midtown Tunnel to the Lincoln Tunnel, but you're going to charge people nothing to hop on the bus, and then you're going to tell me that you're going to need more money because he's got to raise taxes. It seems like a math problem. Also, figure this in: 39% of the people surveyed in New York City say that they don't believe he has the experience to do the job. I mean, what about a counter narrative like that? You're they're gonna give 'em the job?
Yeah, and and some of the uh people out interviewed that say they are supporting him say they just want to see something different.
Well this is going to be something different. It is absolutely.
So uh it's hard to see a governor's race, even though it's an underdog situation with more momentum than Jack Chittarelli has generated on board. And he s even if he loses, No one doubts his competence. This is the type of people you want running for office. Yeah. And he's closed really well.
I think run a much better race than he did last time. And last time he was short by three points. Eighty four thousand votes. Yeah. So and then you look at Donald Trump down six points in New Jersey.
The last election, I think there is a chance. If there's a bright spot on this map for Republicans, that's probably it. You want to see certain things. Republicans are looking for certain things. They're fighting on blue turf.
Everybody knows it. But can they hold their Hispanic vote that they had in 2024? Can they keep the working class that they had those days? Are they going to be able to factor in whatever unions represented in New Jersey and New York City? Are they going to be able to get in well, New York City is going to be almost impossible to gauge.
But the things they did they make inroads because it's Trump? Or did they make inroads because their party is more appealing to those sectors for the first time? I think it's the latter. I think that uh the Democrats with You know, a split party that again, the power is on the left. I do think that the New York mayor's race factors into New Jersey.
I mean, they pay attention to what happens in New York, and maybe it has a factor in this election. I have a sound about this uniquely Donald Trump. He was doing a teleconference yesterday, a tele rally yesterday, about New Jersey Cut 19. Jack is running against a horrible, fake, corrupt, radical, left Democrat opponent named Mikey Cheryl. The only thing she's got going is it's a very unusual name.
I've never heard of the name Mikey. For a woman, but maybe this will be the last. I don't think too many people will be naming their child after Mikey. Her energy policies would Send your prices soaring and make New Jersey even more expensive than it already is, which, as I said, is one of the one of the highest in the entire country. Combined with her high tax or high crime agenda.
It's almost like the SNL skit. It really is.
So I don't really like her name. Not a good name. People are not going to name their kids Mikey, especially with taxis like that. Right.
So we'll see what happens. I mean, she has done her best. With Jack Chitterella, I think, being strong, Mikey Sherrill losing all the momentum that she had coming out of the primary. I don't think either one of them really line up with the whole moderate vision. And the thing is, too, they're not clear on what they're doing on the transgenders in locker rooms.
They can't answer that question in Virginia. They can't answer that question in New Jersey. Yeah, and I think that a hard question. Yeah, and there were just some.
some easy, low-hanging fruit questions that she could have answered. When she was in that debate, I think I referenced it last time. She was asked about sales tax. She didn't have an answer. She said, I'm not going to answer right now.
When we come back, Brett has always thought, whatever celebrities say, every America follows.
Well, Jennifer Lawrence feels differently, and will Brett change his opinion? Also, this is a perfect time to pick up his book, To Rescue the American Spirit, Teddy Roosevelt, and the Birth of a Superpower, back in a moment. Keeping you informed, engaged, and always a step ahead. It's the Brian Kill Meet Show. From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Killmead.
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I don't want. start turning people off. to films and to art that could change consciousness or change the world because they don't like my political opinions.
So, Jennifer Lawrence came out strong against Trump. She's like, oh, most of my family's against me, but came out strong against Trump, and she's very talented. But I think finally, I think our manager just said, listen, I don't care what you think. Do you want 50% of the country? This time, you know, 50% of the country.
To So look at you as like we look at Michael Moore or Bruce Springsteen. How does that make sense? I think it's... It's becoming a business decision for some of these folks that they're saying. I'm not that important.
And no matter what I feel. passionately, emotionally. Um It shouldn't be driving this moment because I've got something to sell. I've got a movie to pitch. I've got some a T V show.
And you're right. I mean, middle America, 50% of the country 81 million plus votes. Right.
The other thing I think too, you could say, well, I hate Trump, but I'm not going to tell anybody. The other thing I think they might be thinking to themselves is like, is he really that bad? What really did he do? Like, am I listening to other people tell me how bad he is? What exactly did he do wrong?
What are his policies? Why is that different? And the stuff that you're asking Trump to do is not, if Trump is telling you guys there's no difference between a man and a woman, it's about time we let trans women, trans men into women's locker rooms, I go, yeah, that's a little crazy. But he's doing this the opposite. He's like, can we sober up in many of his respects?
Like when I'm asking you to dive into his tariff policy, you can make an opinion on that, but it's probably a thinking opinion, a thoughtful opinion. But the other stuff is he's running on common sense. I'm reading. Pierce Morgan wrote a book about the whole thing. It's like, you didn't realize how bad we were.
These doctors were not going they were going they're deciding in some hospitals not to declare what se what gender the baby is. That's how crazy it was getting. Trump came across just like with a sober, direct attitude, not afraid to be. Canceled. Right.
And it's not like it only affects Republicans. It's Independents and Democrats who have kids in schools where their kid goes to the kindergarten and then comes back and then they get a phone call from the teacher and says, you know, he had a wonderful first day. No, it's a she.
Well, we'll decide that later. Literally, I've heard that story from a family who was Democrat-leaning, and they went crazy. Yanked the kid out of the school. I really, really went nuts. Yeah, we have a mutual friend that has a similar situation and relationships he's in now.
I'll tell you in the break, and I just hope you won't say it on a special report during the panel. That's my only hope. Listen, I want to get your take on Vice President Dick Cheney, who passed away at the age of 84. We know he had five heart attacks. He got a new heart at the end.
His first was at 37 years old. But a consequential A consequential leader, the personification of conservative thought. And you saw him along the way. Yeah, I really did. I spent a lot of time.
You did our obituary package. I did because I covered him. I traveled around the world with him on Air Force Two as Vice President, as I was covering the White House at the time. I did many interviews with him and After 9-11, his perspective Changed. Like he was looking at it through a prism of threat to the United States and doing everything in his mind to protect it.
Now, some of those things were very controversial. And some of those things, you know, became a focus of, you know, if you liked him, it was because he was standing on principle and he was conservative. If you didn't like him or you hated him, it's because you thought he went over the line. He was by far the most powerful vice president that we've ever seen. And President Bush allowed that to happen because he understood how valuable he was as a national security.
Advisor. He's obviously former defense secretary. He was White House Chief of Staff to Gerald Ford. He had a lifetime of service. And, you know, at the end, obviously pushed back hard against President Trump.
And obviously, his daughter, Liz Cheney, did as well. But he really was the conservatives conservative along the way.
So I'm just looking up now, not that I lost concentration, to see if Donald Trump had put anything out, yet he isn't. But this is complicated. Liz Cheney was going after him hard, wanted to put him in jail and led that whole investigation. There's some questions about it. And she dragged her dad along with him, in my opinion.
So Donald Trump, obviously more conservative than Kamala Harris on her best day. He was pushing for Kamala Harris. How do you think Trump handles this? I maybe he doesn't. Maybe he doesn't put anything out.
I mean, um, you know, he had a problem with John McCain too. And um handled it similarly. Yeah, we'll see if something comes out on that. A couple of things. I think he did a fantastic job.
As Secretary of Defense, even looking back at the war, the way it was conducted. And you have a perspective on this. The biggest criticism of Bush 41, you left Saddam Hussein there. The biggest criticism of Bush 43, you took Saddam Hussein out. Dick Cheney was the factor in both those.
That's right.
So let's finish the job your dad didn't do high five. And then when you take him out and it becomes a real mess, they go, what'd you do? He was so smart before. Did Dick Cheney change? Maybe.
Maybe he saw uh all the criticism that came out of the first one, but he defended it pretty well at the time after HW decided to stop. Uh he said, How many soldiers are worth Saddam Hussein's life? Uh and he said not that that damn many. And uh that sound bites in the um In the OBIT piece. But I think What happened was they believed the threat after 9-11 was different.
And they were wrong about the mass destruction, the weapons of mass destruction. And that was a major thing that hung over that moment. And the one thing that you have a perspective is people who just jump into this now. Is he lied the first time? He had much more weapons of mess destruction than we thought.
Man, we found him in the chicken coop and everything. And then he throws at the inspectors, and you think, okay. He's reconstituting. It's going to be just like last time. It's going to be worse.
So there was a reason that he felt that. Sure, there was. Special report and special election coverage tonight. When should we watch? 6 and 10.
That's all. And should we get your book? In between. You can get the book. Absolutely.
It's called To Rescue the American Spirit.