‘We got him’: Charlie Kirk’s murderer arrested

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Welcome to the latest minutes of the show. We had a busy hour. We just had a whole hour with President of the United States on Fox and Friends, so I'm gonna bring you some of that. We're gonna have Senator Majority Leader Jon Thune in studio in a matter of moments. We'll bring you that.

Also, Congresswoman Ashley Hinson will be here of Iowa. She'll be in studio too. And we got a lot going on. We found the assassin of Charlie Kirk. The President of the United States confirmed that on our couch one hour ago, they got the guy.

There's going to be a press conference at 9:30. He was found, we believe, three and a half hours away from where the shooting took place. Um he uh looks uh it looks like his family, along with uh I I guess you would not say pastor, a reverend that also has a law enforcement background, was able to announce it. I don't know if we have the exact cut. Do we have the cut where the president actually says?

Yeah, Tim, let's play that. With a high degree of certainty, we have him. In custody. In custody, uh everyone did a great job. We worked with the local police, the governor, everybody did a great job.

You know, uh getting somebody that you start off with absolutely nothing. We started off with the clip that made him look like an ant. That was almost useless. We just saw there was somebody up there. And uh so much work has been done over the last two and a half days.

So, the President of the United States, one hour ago, confirming, you don't need another source, that they got the guy. The FBI picked up the guy last night. I mean, we saw the video, the TMZ video. We saw what was released to us. We understand the investigators, the local police even had better stuff.

So, we knew when Cash Patel came to town, Dan Bongino was here, they were getting close, and they got him. Senator John Thune, great to see you, sir. Great to be with you. Thanks, Brian.

So, you know, the President confirmed it. You probably knew it. What could you tell us about this guy and the relief you must feel that we got him?

Well, I think everybody's relieved, Brian. And I think like most people, we were hearing this this morning directly from the President. Obviously, very good news just in the sense that there's a lot of anxiety, I think, out there right now about this. having him still at large.

So the fact that he's been apprehended and is being held now in custody, I think, will come as a great relief to all Americans. And obviously, a set of circumstances that we don't want to see in the future. And I'm hoping that there'll be some lessons learned from this. Time will tell. It does seem to be a somebody who disagreed with him politically to be.

kind. Yeah.

So so instead of instead of someone saying, Oh, I just I'm a a crazy guy that wants to kill people and be famous, maybe the John Lennon assassin, this person hated what he stood for. I think that makes it More concerning. Right.

Well, it does because it gets at the heart of what this country is all about, and that is open access and an opportunity to have public debates, to air our differences in a way that is hopefully in most circumstances obviously respectful. But this is an example of where a disagreement spilled over into just violence and lethal violence. There is no justification, no defense, no excuse. This is the kind of thing that just has to be dealt with. You need to be prosecuted to the full letter of the law.

What are you telling lawmakers who are concerned about even having events this weekend? AOC said, I'm canceling my event in North Carolina. What do you say to people? I mean, you might feel the same way.

Well, I mean, I have had a number of our colleagues in the Senate who have expressed concerns and suggested that they're and so we're trying to work with individual senators to come up with plans that provide a level of security for them when they're back home in their states. And we had, yes, to your point, we had a number of them this week that expressed concerns about their safety, the safety of their families, and particularly at public events. And it's unfortunate, Brian, because this is the thing to me about America and our political system is the access that people have to public officials. And so if you have to start in some way, you know, restraining members from being out there or, you know, sort of fear of public safety, that's a really unfortunate circumstance. What impact did he make, Joey Kirk, on your job, your re-election, you being the majority right now, the President being back in the White House?

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: Well, I think he had a powerful impact, as we all know politically, in the sense that he got younger people motivated to vote. Did you think that was possible as a Republican? No, I mean, we've always, as you know, we've been in the wilderness for a long time with the younger generations, but he had a way of connecting with people that made them feel part of something that's bigger than themselves. And I think most people want to be part of something. That gives them a sense, a cause that's bigger than themselves.

And I think that was the real. Gift that he had was not only the strength of his convictions, which were clear, but also his passion for sharing those. And there was a spirituality about him, I think, too, that people find attractive today. That was infectious. And I think a lot of young people in particular are looking for something to believe in, something in which they can find hope.

And I think he represented that to a lot of people. And they were able to identify with him and the things that he the convictions that he held.

So let's talk about what you have to do front and center.

Next week will be the funeral. We're going to find out details about the assassin within 25 minutes. But you have to try to keep the government open, and you also have to try to get over 100 nominees through who are without controversy, just being held up for political purposes. What are you doing on both? Yeah, I mean, uh Ch Chuck Schumer and the Senate Democrats have engaged in petty partisanship on a level that has been unseen.

in American history. We've gone back in the annals of history, can't find a president Who has had just the opposition party completely shut down his ability to get his people in place? He won a duly elected president. He won an election in this country. The people of this country expect him to have his team to be able to implement his agenda.

The Democrats and the Senate have been. We first round through quick. We did. We worked very, very quickly, but we just stayed in and just ground it out.

Well, you get past that upper level and you start getting to the sub-cabinet-level people who historically have been just kind of waved through by unanimous consent or voice vote in many cases because they're not controversial. And obviously, I think most Americans, and I certainly hold this view, that the President deserves to have his team in place. The Democrats have blocked that at every turn.

So we took a unique step yesterday to bust that loose. And so in the next week or two, we will be processing big blocks of the president's nominees.

So from now on, the way you do nominees have changed. It has, it has changed. Simply your votes?

Well, it's, yeah. I mean, we're going to be able to now move them in blocks, which is something, honestly, believe it or not, the Democrats had suggested back when Biden was president. And so we gave them a chance yesterday to vote on that. They blocked the vote. And so we went forward with a rules change we will fully complete early next week, and then we will vote on the first 50 or so nominees that are held up.

That'll be great. Mike Waltz, one of them. Mike Walsh is in one of those blocks, either the first one or the second one, I think. Because you're going to have the 80th year of the UN. It would not be great not to have a UN ambassador.

Yeah, no, totally. Especially him. And we understand that, yeah. And it's important that we get him in that position. I agree.

So if you do and Mike, just hold the headset up to your ear. Senator Lindsey Graham is calling on you and Chuck Schumer to do this, Cut 20.

So this legislation If passed, Would designate Russia as a state sponsor of terrorism under US law until they returned the children. If you want to vote no, we will make you famous. You need to vote. Thune and Schumer need to bring this bill up soon so we can tell Europe and the rest of the world, follow our lead.

So, unless you return the 20,000 kids you stole, you are going to be on the state terror list. Will you bring that up?

Well, we will. And Lindsay has got another bill, the Russia Sanctions bill, which has broad bipartisan support in the Senate. And also, I think hopefully at some point we'll get a vote. Both of those are steps that I think are. identify Russia for what they are.

And for what you know, for the Putin for what he is, and clearly make a statement to the rest of the world that hopefully the rest of the world will follow. At least certainly the West and freedom-loving countries in the world, I think, can rally around the cause of These children and Russia's role, and then also, I think, even more broadly than that, the sanctions issue, which would impose economic penalties on countries that do business with them. You want to make sure the President would sign this. Yeah.

Because you don't want to put him in a bad place if he's not ready. And so we have been working with the White House on that legislation, and we want to make sure that when we move it, it's something that they are comfortable with and that they think enhances their ability to get a deal with Russia and gives them the tools that they need. And so when the administration is ready to move, we will move. I just want you to hear what the Foreign Minister and Prime Minister of Poland said about nine or a bunch of drones land going for his country from Belarus came from Belarus and from Russia. This is what he told Brett last night, Cut 23.

We were supposed to have sanctions and instead we got uh Alaska. And since then, as you say, Atas. have intensified.

So I hope President Trump does what he has said he might do. To help Ukraine win, you have to give them long range missiles to continue Continue a successful campaign against Russian refineries. How do you feel about that? I personally think it would be a great move to let Russia pay the price since they're actually aiming for residential areas. They're not taking on soldiers.

Right.

I agree.

I mean, I think that anything we can do that enhances Ukraine's ability to meet force with force on the battlefield and bring Russia to the table, we ought to be doing. And this incursion into Polish airspace is a whole new level, which I think strikes at the very heart of sort of what this conversation is about, and that is the fact that Putin is going to continue to test us. And I think we've got to meet force with force. And one of the ways to do that, obviously, is to give the munitions and the arms and the weaponry that the Ukrainians need. Finland's got their cage rattled in China, and Finland's a formidable force, so they know what they're against.

No one has to explain their neighborhood. Poland's literally building a wall at this hour. And then we know how the Ukrainians can fight. The good news is, Senator, in my humble opinion, Europe no longer has to be convinced by the Americans that they got to defend themselves. The bad news is, the good news is they want to buy the weapons from us.

The bad news is we have not expanded our industrial base. Have you seen an effective proposal to expand our industrial base, be able to satisfy customers like Taiwan and Vietnam and Japan, and of course Europe? We want it. They'll pay. Right?

Yeah, and there are, I think there are a lot of great companies out there, Brian, that have innovative solutions that deal with kind of the evolutions that are occurring in modern warfare. And so the use of drones is becoming increasingly... And so we've got a lot of really good innovation in America, companies that are on the cutting edge of this that we need to start doing business with. Our military industrial base needs to change and modernize and evolve. Have you had the conversation with Roger Wicker and others?

Yes, they got plans. Yep, they totally. But, you know, the one big beautiful bill had sort of. I would say generational investment in national security, having to do with ships, having to do with air assets, having to do with just replacing and building up munitions and that sort of thing.

So the one big beautiful bill I think was an important step forward, but obviously it's not enough. We've got to continue to to be ready to meet the threats of modern warfare that are being employed by a lot of our adversaries. But the one thing you mentioned was really important, and I was in Finland a couple of weeks ago and met with the Finnish leaders there. These people get it now. And I think they are more than ever want to work as partners with the U.S.

And I think they're ready to buy our equipment. We just got to be able to start producing it at scale. And I guess when you see a program, I know we have money. Do you just want to see a program that they plan on learning how to build ships again, even if we have to contract them out, the icebreakers, even if we have to go buy them from other countries, right? Finland, Norway are very interested in icebreakers, and we are going to have to buy some of them from other countries because we don't have the capacity to do it in the U.S.

You made it clear you don't love the tariff idea. And because you have a very ag-driven state and you feel as though they're being affected negatively, soybeans, especially, correct?

So, your reaction to where we're at now, because you know the President cares about the farmers first. Almost.

So are you are we in that Deal making mode now that people have to suck it up? Or is it this China is this a U.S.-China problem? Because they buy most of your soybeans? Yeah, they do largely U.S.-China. Although if we can find other markets, we just need markets.

We've got a really big crop coming in here this fall and no place to go with it. China is not buying, and 60% of our soybeans in South Dakota go to the export market.

So it's a function of increasing demand, opening markets. I've impressed upon the White House the importance when they cut these deals of making sure that agriculture is front and center, because our farmers are the presence base. I mean, they believe in him. They are cutting him a lot of slack to make this work. But at the end of the day, and I've suggested too, because you heard him talk about on your show just now the amount of revenue that's coming in off the tariffs.

If that's true, they're probably going to need to set some of that aside to support. Farmers and ranchers. They've done it before, but they don't want money. They want to sell it. They want to sell.

And I'm with them. We need open markets more than anything else. But they're also going to need a bridge to the time when those deals start to come together, especially with China. We only have 90 seconds left and you have to go do a TV hit. But do you think the China summit that's coming up?

I mean, we're in the middle of high-level, very adult-like talks with China. Is this in those talks? I mean, of them buying it, they need it. Yeah.

Are they getting it from Brazil? Yeah, they can. I mean, that's the challenge. They find other places to buy. But the U.S.

is still, you know, if you look at and they're willing to pay more. They're paying more right now to buy Brazilian soybeans than they are the U.S. only because of the, you know, this trade sort of standoff we're at with them. But I hope the President can break through it. He has shown a remarkable ability not only to get people to the table, but to create reciprocity with countries that have been taking advantage of us.

China is certainly an example of that, but they need to have ag front and center. You're liking the job? You know, as you know, Brian, there are good days and bad days, but I guess you feel like if you're getting things done, and we are, then that's where you get your satisfaction. Yeah, I think nothing but great things everybody hears about Senator John Thune. He's some people of both sides like to work with.

Senator, best of luck keeping the government open on all those balls on the air. Senator John Thune, thanks so much. Brian, good to be with you, as always. Thanks. It's Brian Killmead.

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About an hour ago, and he announced that they got the guy. They got the guy three and a half hours from his house over in Utah. I don't have many details. There's a press conference about to be filled in. I guess Uh I guess it's bu I mean, it's supposed to start like within minutes.

Uh but essentially it looks like somebody I'm watching this stuff online and you're watching this stuff online. Uh I would not be surprised if this guy was one of the people that sparred with Charlie Kirk at one of his events. And remember, on the casings was some trans sayings. Uh and it was on that trans question when he Took a shot. And People who know how to use a gun say it's not a hard shot.

But under those circumstances, perhaps it is. But we have pictures of him everywhere. We have this guy touching the banister. We have him going up with a clean black shirt and coming down that staircase full of the dust from the roof. We got his footprints, a converse shoes.

We see him walking through the neighborhood. Only thing you can't see his face, he's got a hat and glasses. But my goodness, if you know this guy, you didn't need the hat and glasses off. And thankfully, a pastor and some friends turned him in. I hope.

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This is the Brian Kill Me Show. More than anything, we are going to catch this person. Last thing I will just say is we've been working with our attorneys, getting everything that we need, affidavits ready, so that we can pursue the death penalty in this case. And that will happen here in the state of Utah. All right.

I'll give a lot of information.

So nice to Senator John Thune to be waiting in the studio for, or me coming up here and having him waiting in the studio right after talking to President Trump. That was Governor Spencer Cox, who's been a fantastic communicator. I didn't know much about him, but since the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and on top of that, we do have the killer in custody, the alleged killer in custody. We know his father turned him in, and a member of the clergy who also happens to work in law enforcement recognized him.

So he's turned in, he is alive, and it looks as though if you look at the evidence as of today, if the trial was tomorrow. It's overwhelming. His name is Tyler Robinson.

So Tyler Robinson, we don't know anything about him. We do know that there was some trans material on one of the casings. And when you take one shot, and that's the casing that you use, use an older gun, and he pulls it off. We're finding out more about him. Maybe we could take a look and see what we know about him, Allison.

If I just put that name through as we wait for the press conference to come through.

So I I hope This press conference is definitive, and it does seem to be it. It's very similar to the Boston bomber, very similar to the hunt for Luigi. Who we ended up finding in Pennsylvania after he went uptown. We tracked him on all these video cameras, on these ring doorbells, all the way up to uptown New York City, ends up in Pennsylvania, get him at McDonald's. It looks like they did such a good job getting the pictures out.

And then last night, I don't know if they expected to announce an apprehension, but they didn't. And then we got word that a government plane was being flown in to Utah. And a lot of our experts said they wouldn't do that if they weren't flying a high-value. Uh uh target out of Utah.

So uh The hunt could be over. Then we go and find out why somebody would do this. Is this, and it looks to be. just pure politics. Is this just?

Hey, don't like this guy politically. He gets me angry.

So I think I'll kill him. You know, this was Bernard Zapour. He's an ATF special agent, does investigations. He thought this whole capture was imminent. Listen to this, Cuddy.

But I think he'll be captured soon. And there's only three outcomes here. One, he commits suicide. Two, he's killed in an engagement with law enforcement, or he's captured alive. All of which those possibilities could happen very quickly.

There's only one really modern fugitive that has escaped justice, and that was Eric Rudolph, the Olympic park bomber. But he had the entire mountains of the southeast that he was incredibly familiar with. He had support. It took years for him to finally just sort of walk out of the woods and reveal himself. But this is not the case.

This is a young person. And he's not going to have the support network or the knowledge. or maybe even the veracity to avoid uh capture for very long. It looks like he has not avoided capture. He's been turned in.

So, I want you to hear President Trump talk about how he found out. That Charlie was dead. Listen. And we lost an unbelievable warrior. And I think they're gonna I have a feeling that Erica.

You know, I spoke to her long yesterday, she's devastated. And I say in between the devastation, she she made statements, I said you should try and do that. Because uh turning point is a real power And I think she may and, you know, her group, I think they're gonna Rally around. And things like that have happened before. You make it bigger, better, stronger.

I said, only do it if you're going to make it bigger and better. Can you do it? But I didn't want to talk about that too much because she was just, she can't, you know, she's going to take, it's going to take her a while to get better from this. Little ones. Yeah, and beautiful, beautiful kids.

But I'll never forget Baron coming back saying, Dad, that guy's great. You know, normally he's not full of praise. What do you tell him now? Uh he was very hurt when he saw this, but I mean, everybody would. Oh, when I heard it, I was in the midst of You know, building a great for 150 years they've wanted a ballroom.

at the White House, right? They n they don't have a bowl, they have to use tents. on the lawn for President Xi when he comes over. If it rains, it's a wipeout. And so I was with the architects and with design, it's going to be incredible.

And they came in. They said Charlie Kirk is dead. I didn't know what they meant. That's what he'll be dead. Charlie Kirk was shot.

And they saw they thought he was dead 'cause it was so horrific, you know, like And I said, Dad, You got and it was like I love this I just told these people. Get out, just go. You've got This is the worst thing. This was so bad for our country. But sometimes uh Out of really bad things, things can happen that can It can be good.

So that was President Trump right at the end of our interview, and we went into the next show, which we never do, but you can't cut off the president, nor do I want to in that situation.

So when we come back, Congresswoman Ashley Henson wants to replace Senator Joni Ernst in Iowa. She's going to be with us in a matter of moments, and we are waiting for the FBI press conference to confirm the capture of the assassin, the assassin, the alleged assassin who killed Charlie Kirk. You're with Brian. Listen to the all-new Brett Baer podcast, featuring common ground, in-depth talks with lawmakers from opposite sides of the aisle, along with all your Brett Baer favorites like his all-star panel and much more. Available now at FoxnewsPodcasts.com or wherever you get your podcasts.

Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Show. Hey, we are back, and it's our privilege to have with us in the studio Congresswoman Ashley Hinson, a Republican out of Iowa. On this day, we are still waiting for the FBI to do their press conference and formally announce the arrest. Of Tyler Robinson for the killing of Charlie Kirk.

He was turned in by his dad, who was a 27-year veteran as a sheriff in the area.

So he handled the arrest, I guess, who made it smooth. But everybody who knew the guy, we had enough photos and video that there's no way everyone was going to keep their mouth shut, thankfully.

So Congresswoman Ashley Hinson made a big decision. She's going to look to run for Joni Earn's Senate seat because she will be retiring. Congresswoman, welcome on this big day. Thank you. No, it is a big news day, and obviously, I think it's a sad week for our country.

We had to remember 9-11 yesterday. We saw a very active and important conservative voice be silenced on Wednesday, and now we're watching a father have to make a gut-wrenching decision and turn his son in and do the right thing. But it's a tough week for our country and a tough week for people in these positions. Absolutely. And meanwhile, in Congress, you have to decide if you're going to keep the government open, not you.

But there's big news, and then you're trying to get nominees passed, a nuclear option. Is going to be used now to get them passed.

So that's going to change things? What is it like in Congress now? Yeah, I think that we always, my governing philosophy never changed depending on who is in the majority and who is in the minority, because I still, at the end of the day, need to get things done for Iowans, and that's my goal. But it has reached a point where the Democrats don't seem to want to negotiate in good faith, and their only message is they hate the president. And I think the American people clearly want us to get things done.

That's why they sent us back, and that's why they sent the president back.

So I think Chuck Schumer, they have no plan and no real message other than that they hate the president.

So I just want to give you this reaction, and I know you're not going to be that surprised by it, but if you want to hold that headset to your ear, I just want to play some of the reaction. Charlie Kirk is getting a lot of respect from I saw CNN and ABC and NBC, for the most part, very. Understand the magnitude of this, even if they don't agree with him. But listen to Congresswoman Elon Omar, cut nine. There are a lot of people who are out there talking about him just wanting to have a civil debate.

These people are full. And it's important for us to call them out while we Feel anger and sadness. There is nothing um more Up, you know, like Uh Than to completely pretend that his words and actions. Have not been recorded and in existence for the last decade or so. Not only were they recorded, they were trumpeted, they've been playing non-stop.

Mm-hmm.

So no one's hiding this.

So do you understand that type of hate? I I don't and frankly I I I don't understand where they're coming from because Charlie was out there Truly debating and saying, come and change my mind and have a good debate. And that's what I think is at the heart of why his silencing and and this this hateful act is going to be remembered as actually he's created a whole bunch more Charlie Kirks by doing this, right? My son is 14 years old. And he was so inspired by Charlie and his courage to go out and do those debates.

We had a conversation with him Wednesday night. You know, my husband asked him, How many of these videos have you watched of Charlie's? He said, all of them. And so when I think about I almost feel like he lost a friend. Yeah.

And I mean, my last text to Charlie last week was to tell him that my son wanted to open a turning point chapter at his high school in Marion, Iowa. And so I think that there are families just like mine with kids. You know, we're thinking about what the future means for them. These kids are thinking about what the future means for them. And that's what Charlie emboldened and embodied.

And so to see this happen, this hate, I don't think, I think there's a very special place in hell for someone who did this to Charlie and does this to anyone. But I think the end result of this is going to be 10,000, a million more Charlie Kirks out there. Like, I still don't know of anything about the assassin. And I watched a special, two specials on him, who really, why he tried to kill the president. I really don't.

He was all over the place. He hated everybody.

So I couldn't tell, but why they rushed to clean everything out, why we never talked to the parents or found out what brought him there. It's a huge mystery. Then this guy, Ryan Ruth, is obviously deranged. He's representing himself. In court, ironically, right now, saying crazy ass things over in the court.

So he's obviously demented.

Okay.

Now this guy goes to college. We just watched a video together of him getting a $32,000 scholarship, so he's got brains. Seems like he's on the right path. Right.

Dad, law enforcement. You know, seems like he's seems like a normal guy. And he thought, I have to kill Charlie Kirk.

So, does that make you worry about your next event that you're in? And are you lawmakers talking to each other about that? Yeah, and I do think we need to have conversations about security, and I support that. And I've tried to make sure that I can still be safe and doing my job. I've been out there doing those public town halls.

I had to increase security in mine. I think that certainly we need to get rid of the vitriol, but it's clear that if people feel so emboldened to go shoot the president or shoot Charlie Kirk and do so because they don't agree with something, we have to have a bigger conversation around political discourse in this country.

So, let's talk about what matters a lot to Iowa farming. How are the tariffs affecting farming? Because I just talked to Senator Thune, and it's really hurting South Dakota right now. We're waiting for China in this China deal to come in. Yeah, and China is a huge part of trade and trade negotiations.

I think what's important to Iowa farmers is they understand President Trump is trying to get a good deal for them. We've sat on the sidelines for four years under Biden, where he didn't even put a trade ambassador into place for a year and a half. We saw no new trade deals or negotiations, no new access to markets. And he just left stuff in place, which is interesting, isn't it? Right.

And so he at least respected what President Trump had tried to do in his first term.

Now it comes down to true accountability and making sure we're getting good deals. And so I am focused in Congress on the accountability side. I have legislation to make sure we're actually holding these bad actors accountable if they're using transnational shipment and evasive tactics to not pay the duties and tariffs that they owe the United States to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars every year. It's already driving. All countries or what countries?

Well, all countries, but specifically China, right? They're, I think, the worst offender.

So as the president's concurrently having these negotiations trying to get us not just deals with China, but deals around the world, we have great opportunity to make sure our farmers, our manufacturers have access to these markets. And so in the big beautiful bill, the Working Families Tax cut bill. We did include some significant funding to help support that effort diplomatically as well as with what the president is trying to do. I would like to see these deals happen sooner rather than later, and that's something I've been very clear with our folks back home. We are actively communicating with the White House.

Farmers need a deal, but President Trump's not going to abandon them.

So, as somebody who is on a committee to talk about competing with and against China, what were your thoughts about seeing the Chinese leader, the Russian leader, the North Korean leader, and the Indian president there together in Beijing? Very troublesome. I think when I look at the alliances that President Xi is trying to form, he's trying to directly compete with us and undermine us at every step of the way.

So, I think that's just a very public way that he's putting a bow on that. But this has been happening for decades.

So, this is why the work we're doing, again, to kind of stand firm and back up what the president's trying to do in negotiating a deal, we have to be firm. They've gotten away with all of these. like malign practices for decades and they've not had anybody hold them accountable. And I guess the President is working, the Secretary of State is trying to, I guess, set the table, along with the Secretary of Defense, for a possible President Xi-Trump meeting. Would that be important?

Absolutely. I think, number one, it sends a signal that the line of communication is open, and that's a signal that I think our ag producers and our manufacturers need to see. They need the certainty in the market, the tax Changes we made, I think, provided step one. The trade deal is step two.

So getting that movement will give them, I think, some needed. I don't know if you call it. You know, assurance, but it certainly moves things in the right direction to let them know they're not, you know, just waiting around for. Right.

Because we know that they wouldn't even see the Secretary of State China of, I guess, Anthony Blinken for about two years. Right.

And they berated him, I think, in a meeting they had in Alaska when they first took over, which was insulting to the country. You know, we watched Pola's foreign minister, who I think is also prime minister, talk to Brett last night about the drones that were directed into their country, not Ukraine, from Belarus and from Russia. Here's what the Prime Minister, the Polish Foreign Minister, said, Cut 22. When we put up the map, You don't think this was a mistake. Uh it's hard to To believe that.

because some of them came over from Belarus and some came over from Ukraine. We've had similar breaches in the past. A cruise missile, a Russian one, landed ten kilometers from my house in western Poland. But they came from Ukraine. This time they came from both Ukraine and Belarus.

And he asked the president to do this, COP23. We were supposed to have sanctions and instead we got uh Alaska. And since then, as you say, have intensified.

So I hope President Trump does what he has said he might do. To help Ukraine win, you have to give them long range missiles to continue Continue a successful campaign. Against Russian refineries. I hope he does. And the president indicated that sanctions, banking.

But I would love for him to say: use the ATACMs how you want. and the long-range missiles from the UK and Germany.

Well, and I look at this from the standpoint. I had a chance to go visit Poland, Ukraine, and Moldova in April of last year. And we were with our troops on the border with Poland and Ukraine and talking about the logistics of getting those weapons in. But they constantly were having these incursions of drones coming in to spy on what their operations were. And so this has been going on for some time, and clearly Russia has no real interest in ending this war.

They want the territory. And while I'm encouraged that President Trump got him to the table, it's very clear we have to take additional action here.

So I support additional sanctions on Russia. I think that's the first step to get them to take us seriously in this conversation going forward. But they are escalating and not going the other direction which we want to see that happen. What was Moldova like? They're very afraid about what happens here because they have quite the Russian influence.

In the border with Ukraine, there's an area called Transnistria that was basically given to them by Russia, controlled by Russia, controls a lot of the power in the area.

So you talk about what the liabilities are for them. It's a small country, only a few million people, about the size of the state of Iowa. And so they are very, very concerned about what happens if Russia is able to go into Ukraine. You think you can win? I know I can win.

I know I can win. Is there a primary? Small primary, but I think most importantly, I have the president's endorsement.

So the president's got my back. Leader Thune has my back. The NRSC and Tim Scott has my back. And I'm going to make sure I get out there and earn every vote in Iowa. It's not easy, though.

Like, Iowa is not a layup in an off-year election. People, it's going to be hard, right?

Well, I always take every race like I'm 10 points behind. I've run scrappy campaigns before. I flipped a seat in 2020 in Iowa during COVID, which is tough to run a campaign when you're a challenger then. I've learned a lot since then, and I've really enjoyed getting things done for Iowans, and I think that there's a lot more to do to back up the president. Great to see you, Congresswoman Ashley Hinson, who wants to be the next senator from Iowa.

Now she's doing a very important thing as Congresswoman from Iowa. Have a great day. Thanks. AshleyHinson.com for those who want to come support and help our race. Thank you.

Yeah.

From Hia Tom, Fox News Headquarters. in New York. York City. Always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmead.

Hi, everyone. Brian Kilmet here coming to you from 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan. We're lucky enough to talk to President Trump on Fox and Friends for an Atwa. We'll bring you some of that. Where he led with the good news is they got the guy, Tyler Robinson, who killed.

Charlie Kirk. That's who he's accused of, but they got him on video. They got him on some still pictures. And they have evidently he confessed to his dad, a family member. His dad evidently brought him to police, and they're having the press conference now.

The Utah governor's leading it, Cash Patel is there, all the other officials. Here's what we just heard from Governor Cox. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. We got him. On the evening of September 11th, A family member of Tyler Robinson reached out to a family friend.

Who contacted the Washington County Sheriff's Office with information that Robinson had confessed to them or implied that he had committed the incident? This information was relayed to the Utah County Sheriff's Office and scene investigators at Utah Valley University. This information was also conveyed to the FBI.

So they are going to great detail in this press conference, talking about how they got him, family turned him in, the pictures were so apparent. I imagine somebody in his life would say, I know exactly who that is. Anyone that knew him, you'd be able to make that out by the hat, shirt, Gate. Choose location. He had a challenger.

Dodge Challenger was the car. We found the weapon. With us right now is Josh Krasharo, Fox News Radio Political Analyst, Editor-in-Chief of the Jewish Insider. Josh, they got the guy. I guess the President told us that on the couch at 8 a.m.

Eastern Time, but now we know his name. Your thoughts. Yeah, good. Yeah.

Start the morning was with the mm. Yeah.

The must-watch interview, Brian, this morning on Fox and Friends when the president broke the news, but to hear law enforcement officials and the Utah governor confirm. the fact that he is in custody and that Uh apparently the twenty two year old uh That uh Um that whose par you know, who whose family friends um saw the the the images. um posted yesterday by law enforcement and and and and said that Right. It's my son. Um It it it's a And there's a lot more to come.

I mean the motive what what what motivated someone who's a twenty two year old uh college student to commit this heinous heinous murder is, I think, the next next big question. And we may hear more from the law enforcement. at the press conference, but um It is good news right now to hear that he is in custody and and Uh and and now justice will be will be served. Here's more from the interview that's unfolding while we're speaking. Investigators interviewed a family member of Robinson who stated that Robinson had become more political in recent years.

The family member referenced a recent incident in which Robinson came to dinner prior to September 10th, and in the conversation with another family member, Robinson mentioned Charlie Kirk was coming to UVU. They talked about why they didn't like him and the viewpoints that he had. The family member also stated Kirk was full of hate. and spreading hate. The family member also confirmed Robinson had a Gray Dodge Challenger.

And that was the car that they identified as his car. But you knew Josh when we saw the video from last night, coming off the roof, walking through the process. You just knew it's a matter of time. And the only way we wouldn't catch him if he killed himself.

Well look in that and that sounds like we we have the motive to do As we suspected, but hadn't really had any direct evidence that this was political motivation. for the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

So that, that is one important bit of evidence right right now, live, um, from from uh from Utah. Look, I also think one question is going to be we see so much about how Young people get radicalized and turned to this extreme ideologies on social media. But the A lot of discussion has been paid in the last couple days about Just the sheer number of y Gen Zers. who believe political violence i i i i i i is justifiable. you know, in the baby boomer gen Gen X generation You know, endorses that kind of idea.

But you see these disturbing number, like 25, 30 percent. of Gen Zers and that actually uh rationalize uh political violence. And I this is I think what makes this assassination so Gut punching. And I wonder, again, we'll learn more about this, this, the person who, who, who, who, who. Yeah.

But that that is a disturbing I mean, the the fact that this is connected to his political views is uh is you know we we all suspected it But it's a real gut punch.

So right now, Cash Patel has taken over the microphone. Governor did a great job throughout this entire process communicating exactly his thoughts and the procedures. Here's more. Investigators interviewed that roommate who stated that his roommate, referring to Robinson, made a joke on Discord. Investigators asked if he would show them the messages on Discord.

He opened it and showed several messages to investigators and allowed investigators to take photos of the screen as each message was shown by Robinson's roommate. These photos consisted of various messages. Including content of messages between the phone contact name Tyler with an emoji icon and Robinson's roommate's device. the content of these messages included messages affiliated with the contact Tyler. Stating a need to retrieve a rifle from a drop point, leaving the rifle in a bush.

Messages related to a to visually watching the area where a rifle was left, and a message referring to having left the rifle wrapped in a towel. The messages also refer to engraving bullets. And a mention of a scope. and the rifle being unique. Messages from the contact Tyler also mentioned that he had changed outfits.

So he actually wrote put down in writing exactly what he did. One of the sayings that were written on the casings was hey fascists. Hey fascist. That was Tukirk. And evidently they have the trans language, whatever that is.

Cash Patel is just talking about right now how he likes cops to be cops and let them go out and let them loose exactly about how to solve these crimes. And that's what happened. I mean, by the way, in this age of surveillance, Josh, of everyone's got a ring camera and every school has got a camera, because of fear of things like this. Uh it makes thankfully it makes it easier to capture these guys. Yeah, that that's for sure.

I am sort of I shouldn't be shocked perhaps, but the fact that it sounds like the So This guy, uh posted his intentions before the crime. He actually literally was communicating to folks. like-minded folks perhaps on social media, on Discord. Um on what he was gonna do. the plan to I mean it's a powerful bit of evidence but it's disturbing.

I mean it indicates that there are other Radical, like-minded people out there. I mean, the notion that that's Even, you know, that that that that That in and of itself is just a disturbing notion, but clearly there's evidence that they have from social media that. This guy premeditated. This is a premeditated crime and it was a political uh motive.

So, yeah, it was on Discord, which is more of a gaming communications device, and he was willing to map out exactly what he was going to do. He was going to wrap up the gun and he was going to put it in a wooded area, and it did. But the problem is, for him, we caught him on camera going into a wooded area, so they knew exactly where to look. Here's a little more about what was on the gun and the casings. Investigators noted inscriptions that had been engraved on casings found with the rifle.

Inscriptions on a fired casing read, Notices bulges. Capital O W O, what's this question mark? Inscriptions on the three unfired casings read: Hey fascist exclamation point, catch exclamation point. Up arrow symbol, right arrow. and uh symbol and three down arrow symbols.

A second unfired casing read, O Bella Chow, Bella Chow, Bella Chow, Chow Chow. And a third unfired casing read, if you read this, you are gay, L M A O. Um You are gay. I'm just writing this down. Pretty amazing, right?

This guy, remember the epitaphs written by the shooter in Minneapolis of that church. Also, had a bunch of messages on not only the magazines, but on the bullets themselves. Crazy stuff, Josh Crash Hour. Yeah, I mean, I'm just processing this as as I'm hearing it. I mean, the the the the casing that said fashion.

I mean that that between the fact that he had made comments in the the last I guess the recent very recent past. Uh indicating his animosity towards Charlie Kirk and his political disagreements. and having a casing with, you know, fascists on it. I mean, that that that does uh seemed to add evidence to the fact that this was obviously a political politically motivated uh murder I don't know the other I really don't know what they mean. I don't know what they mean.

But I guess something with a gay reference and a bulge and whatever, that could be some of the trans language. And what they'll find out, they'll know in two seconds. But what was happening? A lot of conversation about the trans shooter in Minneapolis. And the fact that that That killer was saying what a bad idea it was to do this.

And that became a lot of the dictation. What kind of drugs were people getting at a young age when they wanted what kind of hormones as they try to perhaps. They get through their psychological challenges by changing genders. And that was a conversation that everybody was having. And Charlie Kirk was leading the was one of the people outspoken about that on college campuses.

And that kid was college age. Right now, Cash Patel is now speaking. Big story in the New York Times how there wasn't enough coordination. It took 10 hours for Cash Patel to get a picture from the Bureau over in Utah. And I think he was getting upset.

And people talked about that's why him and Dan Bongino flew out. To see for themselves. But maybe that was overstated because they got their guy. Yeah, look, I think Monday morning quarterbacking, I'm not sure if it was the wisest. stress policy Approach for The FBI director to pose.

on social media. about people that had been in for questioning and name any I a lot of it I mean this is the scourge of social media. Like sometimes you just do the investigation behind the scenes and then when you get your guy, you announce announce the result, which is what's happening right now.

So thankfully, it does seem like law enforcement did their job. They got the outcome that they were looking for. That's good news. Um we do know, by the way, speaking of the motive, uh Brian, we we do know the Wall Street Journal reported yesterday that based on their their conversations with law enforcement officials What we're hearing now that these casings had you know fascist On them and also, you know. trans type rhetoric.

It sounds like that that has proven to be the case, at least on the fascist and the inscription front and then on one and on one of the casings having the word fascist on it. Um I don't know what these other words mean, um, but maybe they had already done some legwork and that's how they came to the conclusion.

So that that Wall Street Journal report that a lot got a lot of attention yesterday. About the motive of the shooter. Looks like it was on the right track. It looks like that's been proven based on the press conference today. I'm very curious to see if he ever went on a microphone and sparred with Charlie Kirk in the past.

And I just I just don't understand like they you know, the people were profiling him yesterday. He says this guy looks like he's he's a first-time killer. It looks like something that he thought about, but he's never done before. And anyone who said it was well planned didn't really see him grab the banister as he left, didn't see him throw the gun, walk around with the gun sticking in his shirt in his pants. Um He left footprints.

Uh he left footprints and he left elbow prints. Whatever they can do with that.

So they had a lot of information on them.

So it wasn't the most planned. And people say it wasn't that difficult to shot. I'm not a gun guy. But it seemed pretty difficult to me, especially under those circumstances, to be able to pull that off, especially with this older gun that he evidently had. Yeah, no, I I'd like to hear more about how he obtained the gun.

uh about how much training he training he had, about how he got onto that roof. There are a lot I mean, I'm sure a lot of these things are currently being discussed at the press conference, but Um, and lack of security. I mean, you usually uh at at some of these events. Maybe not so much college events, but yet Political events. You do have some.

Yeah.

Clearly no one I saw this guy on the roof, no one uh flagged. his presence has been anything suspicious. Yeah.

But um That that is going to be a big question going forward, especially as we discuss and debate the need for more security. on off campus and sadly When you have political speakers come, they're going to be worried about safety and security, especially on these college campuses. Josh, real quick, rapid fire. Is it going to be a government shutdown? That's the way it's trending, Brian.

have Chuck Schumer. who got roasted from his uh base. Or not. Pushing for a government shutdown the last time things came to a head. And you also have Ezra Klein, who's usually.

um you know maybe more of a a a pragmatist. Uh Counseling in his column in the New York Times, which says. A very uh uh significant leadership among Democrats and leadership. course force the leader's hand.

So it does seem like the momentum. Um is heading towards a September shutdown. Trump is going to go to town when he's left alone.

So Congress might not like the power they're going to leave him. We'll see. But do you need sixty votes to not shut down the government? Yeah, I know that came up on the your interview with the president, but but yeah, that's why Democrats are not Republicans have the send a majority by comfortable margin, but they need to get seven Democratic votes to effort.

So I was right. Yeah.

Yeah.

We'll let the record show, Allison. I know more than the President of the United States.

Okay.

All right, so Spencer Cox, the governor, is still talking. Josh, thanks so much. Appreciate it. Thanks, Bernard. All right, Handling the Breaking News, offering incident analysis, Josh Trash Hour.

When we come back, we'll take some phone calls. 1866-408-7669. I'll have about four or five minutes, so get on board. Matthew Contadenti at the bottom of the hour, columnist at the Free Press. Newsmakers and Newsbreakers Hear it first on The Brian Killmeat Show.

The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead. Investigators interviewed a family member of Robinson who stated that Robinson had become more political in recent years. The family member referenced a recent incident in which Robinson came to dinner prior to September 10th, and in the conversation with another family member, Robinson mentioned Charlie Kirk was coming to UVU. They talked about why they didn't like him and the viewpoints that he had.

The family member also stated Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate. The family member also confirmed Robinson had a Gray Dodge Challenger. So that is the governor announcing Tyler Robinson is the killer. He's 22 years old. He was born in April of 2003.

We know he's got a sibling, lives in a six-bedroom house. His mother evidently is from a prominent family. His dad, this makes sense now because we had President Trump on the couch and he said a pastor and family member turned him in. This is both. He's a local pastor or minister.

Uh and he's reportedly learned of the crime from Tyler's confession. contacted authorities and held his son and held his son until U. S. Marshals arrived. Our President praised his dad as a hero for doing that.

Obviously, but he also raised him. Curtis, you're in Brooklyn, New York, Curtis. Hey, Brian.

So I was just going to say, I actually know what the arrow combination on the bullet casing means.

Okay, go ahead. It's from a video game that came out last year. There's a whole community behind it. It's called Helldivers 2, and it's a starship troopers type of. Bug extermination game, whatever, to call in airstrikes and to call in some of your ordnance from your spaceship above.

There is a button combination menu, and it consists of Up, down, left, right, left, right, up, down, left, right, you know, down, right, right, right, whatever the gample is. Um and that and so It's big in the gaming community. There's nothing nefarious about it necessarily, but um, you know, I've I've noticed you see it car uh stickers on car windows and sh shirts that get made. People have favorite airstrikes.

Okay.

And they and they do that.

So I think that that's what that refers to. Bellichow. Being part of the gaming community. What about Bellichow? I I don't know that.

That sounds Italian to me. Yeah, I was we don't know where that come from. Hey fascist and catch. Hands catch a bullet. And then it's fascinating.

I don't know anything about the gaming world, so you were great. And Eric does, and Eric, one of our producers, Board Ops, says the same thing. You're 100% right. Appreciate it. Callers are often uh Smarter than the host, and there's another example.

Curtis, good job. When we come back, more on this killing. Also, we're going to talk to Matt Continenti, a columnist on the Free Press and Director of Domestic Policy and Studies at the American Enterprise Institute. The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmead.

With a high degree of certainty, we have him. In custody. In custody, everyone did a great job. We worked with the Local police, the governor, everybody did a great job. You know, getting somebody that you start off with absolutely nothing.

We started off with a clip that made him look like an ant. That was almost useless. We just saw there was somebody up there. And uh so much work has been done over the last two and a half days.

And the guy's name is Tyler Robinson. He comes from a somewhat prominent family. It looks like his dad was a not a he was a A member of the clergy. He was also a sheriff. And he seems his dad heard his confession and turned him in.

And other people did notice who he is, and they were looking at his postings. And I'm talking about the assassin of Charlie Kirk, the alleged assassin. But if you look at the tapes, you look at the video, you look at the pictures, you look at the gun, you got the fingerprints, you know you got the guy. Hopefully he was acting alone. But let's say.

What does it mean in the big picture? Matthew Continenti writes about it with the Reef Press, and he also is a member playing a vital position with AEI. Matthew, your reaction. to the capture of the assassin two days after he killed.

Well, my first reaction, Brian, is That I'm pleased that justice seems to be done. My second reaction is I can't say that I'm surprised by some of the messages we're hearing about this assassin's politics. As Governor Cox described in the news conference, He apparently uh had been uh growing more political over time. He describes uh Charlie Kirk as someone who spread hate. And it turns out that the cartridges were engraved with messages, one of them a very well known uh Antifa-like uh uh message.

So what we have here is a political assassination. By what it seems to me to be a member of the radical left, not unlike. the killing of the United Healthcare CEO, Brian Thompson, by Luigi Mangioni last year and That's why my final reaction is um Real disturbance. Because it seems as though there are copycats, a growing number of young men. Who are becoming radicalized by a socialistic anti-American ideology, and they're ready to.

commit acts of terrible, heinous violence in order to Further their political ideology. I mean, it's easy to marginalize Ryan Root. The guy's an absolute basket case. He's got mental issues. He's his own attorney in court.

He's the second assassin. We don't know much about the first assassin. Then you look at some other people in history and you see they have a screw-loose. But this guy's part of a movement. That's what I find disturbing.

It seems. Part of an ideology. It seems. And didn't want to hear anything else. I mean, the irrationality of if it is a member of Atifer or a sympathizer, they're absolutely irrational, don't seem particularly involved in society, kind of want to destroy it, and look at guys like me or you as the enemy.

Well, they look at America as the enemy, Brian. This is someone who if these messages turn out to be true. And Uh plausible. He was someone who believed that America was a fundamentally unjust system, and that someone like Charlie Kirk, whose whole life His young life was premised on the idea that America is good, and he wanted to convince young people, Charlie did, that to love their country and to celebrate traditional institutions, including the family, including religion, including the market. That's the enemy to this movement, that is.

It seems becoming radicalized and increasingly violent. In order to tear down the United States of America, tear down everything that we think of as civilization. And the fact that they are now targeting And not just politicians. But private individuals. Charlie Kirk was not an elected official.

He was a social media. Presence He was a star. He was a political activist. And he paid for the courage. that he showed every time he walked on to a college campus in order to debate.

with his life. He had six members of his own security team that came out of his wallet, I'm sure. I know he did it to raise awareness. And we've been talking over the last six, eight years, what he's done on college campuses. I'm sure, Matt, we were told it's never going to happen.

College campuses, in my lifetime, has always been a bastion of liberalism. That's nothing going to change. Republicans made a huge mistake, George Will wrote, in just basically giving up on college campuses. And then Charlie Kirk comes along. At 18, he decides to engage, gets these huge crowds, and these isolated people who love politics or actually want to do it for a living finally had a place to go.

And next thing you know, three election cycles in, it hit its zenith, and suddenly Republicans getting the youth vote. He's responsible.

So, how do you stop him? You kill them, right? How do you stop them? You don't get another group and make it bigger. You don't try to spar with them because it gives you the opportunity and win the argument and go viral online, which is an opportunity for you.

I have to kill them. Where does that mindset come from? It comes from a mindset that believes that the system is beyond repair. It comes from a s a mindset th that completely dehumanizes Your political opponents. It comes from a mindset.

I have to say uh where everyone views Donald Trump as somehow uh a dictator in the making. And people view and demonize Republicans and Trump supporters as fascists or Nazis. And if the stakes are that high, To an adult mind, Then you do. commit acts of violence. And that's why it's important that we just Take a look here.

And say that that that We're here to Continue the American Experiment. Donald Trump is not a dictator. He's someone who has electrified millions of Americans with the message of common sense. and a desire to improve our country. And there are people on the left.

They're not. And uh they're not uh uh communists necessarily. But they they have a different view of how to make America better. But they need to be ar you need to argue with them. You need to use words.

You can't use bullets because otherwise the whole thing collapses. I know Matt, you're a deep thinker and a political scientist.

So I think the thing that's switched over the last Four years is it went from conservative-liberal to common sense, and what are you thinking? I mean, literally, these are not sometimes there's hard issues. But this is: do you want to seal the border? No, the border's sealed. The border's sealed?

Of course it's not sealed. Oh, that's migration. That's world migration. Or that's climate change. Or we don't need a wall.

Or don't be xenophobic as we watch our cities overflowing with illegal immigrants that we can't afford bankrupting cities, being that they're on social programs. Common sense is trans ma uh trans men and women sports. That's pretty obvious, but it doesn't seem to be. You know, charter schools is basically another thing, common sense. People who have an opportunity to go to a charter school should be able to.

Teachers' unions don't allow that. People say, why if you cared about minorities, wouldn't you do that?

So these issues used to be stuff that's debated in halls, but other times I feel like you want to knock them on your head, knock them on the head and go wake up.

Well, this is why the fact that Kirk was assassinated on a college campus was grimly symbolic, Brian. because the college campus is supposed to be a place of free inquiry Open debate uh discussion civil discourse Viewpoint diversity But over the past decade it it seems to me college campuses And I'm not singling this particular college campus out, but college campuses have become petri dishes of every sort of radicalism. Whether it is anti-Americanism, whether it's anti-capitalism, whether it's anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism. Whether it's the type of racial essentialism, the type of sixteen nineteen Project mentality that says America has been corrupted from the very beginning, This is the The culture in which many young people now marinate. for years, and then they emerge from these colleges They have a degree.

that's not worth the paper it's printed on. and they have mountains of debt. And they have resentment, and then they have this sense of entitlement. And that's what makes us.

So disturbing is the fact that they're There's not one, there's not two of these guys, there may be many more of them out there. You know what? I never thought about that. I always thought it was a possibility, but it's actually more likely.

So AOC was asked about this. She canceled her event this weekend, cut twelve. Republicans are saying that Democrats too often have referred to them as Nazis. Is that the kind of rhetoric that you think there should be less of or do you think that criticism is misplaced? I believe that if we want to stop the scourge of violence in this country, we must do our jobs and pass common sense gun safety reforms in the United States.

Period. Really? Gun reform? What a dodge. She didn't answer the question.

And, you know, I would just recommend to AOC, she needs to take a look at the video that her mentor Bernie Sanders put out because. I don't agree with Bernie Sanders on a single thing, except for what he told his followers in this video, where he said violence is never an answer, and in fact, violence in politics is the coward's way, because it's an admission that you are unable to convince people through peaceful means, through civil discourse, that your ideas are true.

So AOC had a moment there where she could have stepped up to the plate. And she whiffed. She missed the ball. Right.

No one's worse than Elon Omar. I gotta let you hear this. Cut nine. There are a lot of people who are out there talking about him just wanting to have a civil debate. These people are full.

And it's important for us to call them out while we Feel anger and sadness. There is nothing um more up you know like Uh Than to completely pretend that his words and actions. Have not been recorded and in existence for the last decade or so. So she totally punts on saying that Charlie Kirk basically deserved it. Right, we don't want him to get killed, but he do you know, that's what that's what happens when you speak like that.

No, it's despicable comments from Ilhan Omar. And you know, not surprising. those of us who have followed her career. And this is, I think. Um Major problem here, which is that we have this rising political violence, we have this.

real left-wing radical tendency now. that is taking up arms. and flout and flouting the law. And we also have kind of people on the socialist squad uh and some other parts of the left and the democratic party who are willing to say Well, maybe m maybe it's justified to the degree that the victims had it coming. Or in the case of, say, the riots in Los Angeles over the Ice raids there.

They though that is celebrated as resistance. When in fact It's violating the law.

So I think we need to take a step back and we need to Say, look. We need the rule of law. We need the Constitution. We need to agree on the principles of freedom of speech, freedom of conscience. Those are the bedrocks of America.

If we give up on those, That we're not really we're we're going to fall into the abyss. And I don't think most Americans want to go there. Nope. We need more people. In Congress to talk about the importance of the Constitution and American ideals, and we need fewer Ilhan Omars and AOCs.

Yeah, I can't wait to see where we go from here. As the president said to us today, you got to move on. You know, as bad as it is, and he's a personal friend like a family member, really was. And don't anyone tell you different. Charlie Kirk was always with President Trump, and they were talking two or three times a day, played a big role.

They had mutual respect for each other, obviously.

So this is like a loss of the family. And he said, My message is you got to move on. You know, you you can't alter your life. You gotta go forward. Nine eleven's an example.

And a lot of lawmakers, out of security reasons, canceled their event this weekend. Uh uh AOC canceled her event this weekend. If Matt Continenti has a speech, are you gonna go? You have to. You have to go.

Obviously you take Precautions. But we can't, this is exactly like 9-11 in the sense. 9-11 wanted to wreck the American economy, it wanted to put Americans in a Crouch, protective crouch. And this is same intent. It's meant to deter people like Charlie Kirk from going to college campuses and spreading a message of conservatism.

You know, and and so you can't give in. Um and that's why it was important that Robinson was apprehended as quickly as they did. And it's also why I think President Trump's message to you this morning was important, Brian, because he also said, yeah, he said we need to move on, but he also said, you know, out of terrible tragedies, sometimes There's some good. And I think what this has done It's not just a wake-up call that we never would have wanted to have. But I think it's also sending a lot of young people Back to Charley Kirk.

And they're they're looking at his messages, and they're looking at his podcasts. And they're looking at the example he set, not just politically, With his own life. He m got married, he had these two beautiful young kids, He was deeply religious. He was committed to his community. That is how you lead.

a flo a hum a life of human flourishing. That's the example. That we need more of in America. And I can only hope that more young people. Learn from Charlie Kirk's example.

In the aftermath of this awful, awful Weak. Matthew Continenti, thanks so much. Read his stuff in the free press. Got a great column out today, and now we'll write another one now that we know who killed Charlie Kirk. This is the Brian Killmeat Show.

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He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Killmeade. We can return violence with violence. We can return hate with hate. And that's the problem with political violence is it metastasizes.

because we can always point the finger at the other side. And At some point, we have to find an off-ramp. or it's going to get much, much worse. But see, these are choices that we can make. History will dictate.

if this is a turning point for our country. But every single one of us gets to choose right now if this is a turning point for us. We get to make decisions. We have our agency. And I desperately call on every American.

Republican, Democrat, liberal, progressive, conservative, MAGA, all of us to please. Please, please. Follow What Charlie taught me.

So there's Spencer Cox friend to Charlie. Kirk, who was gunned down this week, and then we finally got his assassin, Tyler Robinson. We know that it looks like he's got one sibling. It looks like his dad turned him in. He made a pretty made a pretty obvious On one of his social media accounts, what he did before he did it, and now he actually executed the exact plan.

And the plan got him turned in because he was able to execute the shot, sadly, and execute somebody. And by the way, I think everyone should see this tape. Because you should see the horror of someone's life being taken away. and how brutal these shootings are. And to see someone executed like this in the prime of his life in front of a huge crowd, outstandingly successful at the age of thirty one, and this loser out of college thinks that he doesn't like what somebody says, so I'll get on a roof.

I'll kill him. What do you think? And I'll write some things on a bullet case in because I'm really, really cool. And by the way, in case you already noticed, we're not canceling anything either. September 27th, I'll be in Richmond, Virginia.

And then November 1st, Potts Town, Pennsylvania. History of Liberty and laughs. We will have fun. And we'll talk about serious stuff, too. Brian Killmeat Show.

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Welcome to the latest minutes of the Brian Kill Me Show, and a really impactful week. We're always going to remember. Eric Trump is going to be joining us at the bottom of the hour. He's got a book under siege, and it tells the story from the family perspective on what it was like. Be the son of Donald Trump, president of the United States, most impactful of this generation, clearly.

And also, he runs the business.

So when the president goes into politics, he runs the business, and the business was targeted, and the toll it took and how they stuck together. It's all in his book. But more importantly, he lost what many people think is a Trump friend. And that is in Charlie Kirk, one of the most impactful political operatives that I've ever seen. And I feel like I watched it happen 'Cause I remember I was on a book tour over in Florida And they just said, Brian, you have to do this thing turning point.

It's more of an event. I thought, okay, is it a book sign? They go, no, it's an event. You got to speak. Do I have to speak first?

Yeah, all right. And I'll probably say a few things about George Washington's Secret Six and see if these kids. Yeah, it's a young group.

So keep that. All right. They care about history. Oh, they really care about history. I'm like, a young group cares about history.

And I walked in, and I feel like it was Miami. Maybe, I'm not sure, Miami, Fort Lauderdale. And I walk in, and the place is mobbed, probably 7,000 people. And I was the third, second, or third speaker, and it was, you could hear a pin drop when you spoke. All these kids, I go, you guys go to college?

I was just astounded. I go, you're in college here for history, political talks, and debates. I couldn't believe it. He goes, well, that's this guy, Charlie Kirk. He didn't go to college, and he's really unbelievable.

And you just watch him grew from there. And I was actually asked to do his event in August. I couldn't do it. I was supposed to do it in December. And sadly, he gets gunned down.

So, what happens to Turning Point? It's small in comparison to what happens to his children and his wife. But we do have some good news. They have the killer. His name is Tyler Robinson.

He's from the area. And We just watched a press conference wrap up that talked about the manhunt that yielded results. Shannon Breen will be all over this as anchor of Fox News Sunday. Fox News is chief legal analyst, too. Shannon, we got him, right?

Or they got him. Yeah, and goodness, I mean, people were so frustrated the last 48 hours or so, but when you look at it in the grand scheme of things, Everything that came together, this is actually a pretty speedy conclusion.

Now there's much more to come. Innocent until proven guilty. We don't even have the formal charges or the state or federal charges yet on this individual. Um but there seems to be some pretty compelling evidence that's put forth by the governor on exactly conversations with family members, with a roommate, um digital traces of evidence, physical evidence they'll go through now. And so, um, you know, I said to Sammy, my assistant, I I thought I would feel some sense of relief over this.

And I really don't. I'm just still heartbroken and angry and like all of us are who cared about Charlie and cared about his family. I hope in some way it would bring them some kind of I don't think relief is the right word, but some sense of justice maybe at some point.

So, I mean, so it's weird because what we know about the first shooter in Butler is who got killed, but he was all over the place. Who he liked, who he didn't like, just nuts. And we see how crazy Ryan Ruth is in his court proceedings. He's representing himself. But this guy is a political activist.

He is a political activist. He did look at, he had the inverse views, it seems, of Charlie Kirk. But instead of trying to win, get behind a candidate, he decides to kill. Here's what the governor said: as he had made it official, they got the manhunt was over. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.

We got him. On the evening of September 11th, a family member of Tyler Robinson reached out to a family friend who contacted the Washington County Sheriff's Office with information that Robinson had confessed to them or implied that he had committed the incident. This information was relayed to the Utah County Sheriff's Office and scene investigators at Utah Valley University. This information was also conveyed to the FBI.

So Family turned him in. But Spencer Cox went on. Investigators interviewed a family member of Robinson who stated that Robinson had become more political in recent years. The family member referenced a recent incident in which Robinson came to dinner prior to September 10th, and in the conversation with another family member, Robinson mentioned Charlie Kirk was coming to UVU. They talked about why they didn't like him and the viewpoints that he had.

The family member also stated Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate. The family member also confirmed Robinson had a Gray Dodge Challenger. And that's the car they were looking for. And they already had the gun. And Shannon, they had the fingerprints.

So I'm not worried about his conviction. I'm sure he'll get the death penalty, I hope. But The fact is, he does have a, lived in a house of $600,000. He had a six-bedroom house, it seems. He's got one sibling.

And there is video online of him opening up a letter and getting $32,000 for a college scholarship, even though they don't have a Muslim in college. What I'm trying to say is, this is not somebody whose life has dealt him a bad set of cards. Yeah.

So you wonder how he got to this point. And it gets to Charlie's point. When you stop having dialogue and uncomfortable conversations, to me, I worry in the silence is where people get radicalized. And kids are communicating in places that their parents don't go, like Discord, like gaming systems. There are all kinds of conversations they're having.

Now, interesting to me that it appears this family member had shared that there were open conversations about this person not liking Charlie Kirk, knowing that he was coming to visit, expressing his political views. Which, listen, we all should do that. And I think within a family or within a friendship or those kinds of community conversations, that's where we should be having these conversations. But at some point, this guy turned this alleged shooter, he turned a corner into a place that was very dark. And to where he thought, you know, as the governor said, words are not violence, but we're being told that you can meet political rhetoric with physical violence.

And that message has gotten to these young people, the Luigi Mangionis and others, and people who will wear t-shirts with these guys' pictures on them and celebrate them. We have to figure out how to stop that conversation because there are young people polling shows who think that these kinds of political killings are justified.

So, Shannon, think about this. This guy has lived a crushy life over in Utah. I was able to find himself, perhaps not even in college, and he's about to live the rest of his life in high uh security prison and eventually uh have a grisly, lonely death. I mean, why don't they understand, these are socialized people, the consequences of this action? That's my sentiment.

I'd like to kill that guy, but no one does. Or he didn't. I like to, yeah, that Charlie Kirk, he's hurting the country. Yeah, I'm going to, I can't wait to debate him. But why does he think, you know, it's worth it?

Ligi Imagioni, rich family. Why is it worth it to kill a CEO who has nothing to do with your life? Yeah, I think people I think there's a couple of things. I think people are desensitized to the reality of just Reality. I mean, I think these kids live in a world where they operate virtually.

in gaming and other places where they've lost the value of life. they've lost the ability to have relationships and conversations with people.

So you don't even see somebody as a human being. And you know, me as a person of faith, I see everybody from Osama bin Laden on down as somebody who was created in God's image. And if you can't look at somebody who just you have a political disagreement with and see them as a human being, you see them as a target, as an enemy, as somebody who is not your equal, not worthy, your life and theirs are not of the same value. I think those are a lot of the messages in isolation will do that to people, young and old. And when you just dehumanize someone and you think, My part of this political conversation is stopping that rhetoric, stopping that part of the political conversation.

You're just not dealing in reality. And he is, as you said, going to get a real whole cold, hard check on reality. My fear is, listen, if this guy, as it looks like it is, the evidence adds up and this guy ends up getting convicted, my frustration is the death penalty cases go on an average of like 20 years after conviction and millions of dollars are spent on appeals. And these people live a long time in prison and he will become a folk hero to some people. Ay now, Huge Mangioni.

I mean, look at how people are proposing to him, thinks he did a great thing. I mean, Brian, I literally was in an airport months ago going through a security checkpoint, and a young person in front of me had on a T-shirt with Mangione on it, and it was styled with him with a halo like he was a saint. And it was everything I could do not to have a confrontation with this person. that it would have gotten ugly, but to even say to them, This man had children. What if somebody killed your father walking down the street, shot him in the back.

Like I just it it just floors me that there is a segment of society that would think, Yeah, I'm going to wear this T-shirt glorifying a murderer and not have any compunction about doing that in public. I know. How are you handling this weekend? How are you handling the show Sunday? Do you know I'm sure everything's so fluid, but.

Well, we're going to keep some of the guests we have, and we've added some other ones. We've got Speaker Johnson with us to talk about where you go from here. You've heard some lawmakers say, I'm canceling events, I'm not going to have these conversations, it's too dangerous. How do you protect? You know, lawmakers, but also political activists and voices, important people.

How do you do that moving forward? We've got two of my favorite people, Professors Robbie George and Cornell West from Princeton. If you know anything about them, these guys are diametrically opposed on everything ideologically, but they're really good friends.

So we're going to talk about where we go from here. How do you have this conversation? We're going to talk to Adam Smith, also Democrat congressman, about those things and also a lot of foreign policy because Underneath these horrific headlines about Charlie, we've got really big issues with Poland and Russia and Gaza and Qatar and Israel, and we're going to try to get through some of that too. Yeah, I mean you have p and using Brett Baer's interview with the foreign minister, and then the president did comment on both with us on the couch today. It was an excellent conversation.

I watched it, and you guys always do a fantastic job.

Well, thank you. And on One Nation tonight, because you want to get a pen ready, because I don't want to have to call you later. We're going to have you, Ewitt. I'm thinking it with John Walsh. on the manhunt, what went into it, the crime in our cities.

And we're going to have. What else are we supposed to have on the show? Allison, do you remember? How about Allison? Oh, Jack Chittarelli, who wants to be the next governor.

Yes. As you know. And he thinks he's going to close that nine-point gap. And he's certainly confident. We'll see.

We know the president did very well in New Jersey. It's been a very interesting state in recent elections, too. Absolutely. So we'll see what's happening by Sunday. And I think that something's going to be happening personally in Gaza this weekend.

So I think that's going to blow up. It looks like all signs point to something big.

So we'll have it covered as you will, and I will watch you and take notes like I always do. All right, Shannon, stay within yourself. You too. Bye, Brian. Back in a moment.

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This is the Brian Kill Me Show. Hey, we are back. We have a few minutes. In the bottom of the arrow, we're going to welcome in Eric Trump, and he's got his new book, and of course. We lost uh a great friend.

So the President of the United States was with us today. And he was able to announce on Fox and Friends that they got the guy.

Now we know his name is Tyler Robinson. We don't know the details. We know that he's going to spend the rest of his life in prison, turned in by his family. I don't think that this guy thought it through, but he was planning it, and he did plan to get out. I just think that the fascinating Shannon's take was interesting because these guys who do such horrific things for the first time.

become in go into supermax prisons. I mean what w you know, if you grow up in the streets and you're hanging out with gangsters and you're in and out of prison, you know what you're getting into. You join the military, you train, go to boot camp and you go out there and train, you know you could get captured and killed at any moment. You know how tough war can be? But you got a guy here that was in a college-age kid, 22 years old, whose life seemed ultimately middle class in the most peaceful place in the world, Utah, who said, Yeah, the only thing I could do is kill this guy.

What could happen? Maybe I'll get away with it. But if I don't, what? I mean, fill in the gap. If I don't, I'll be killed.

Right? Or if I don't, I will spend the next 60, 70 years in prison.

So, when you think about that, any rational 22-year-old, and most are think rational, you know, you're not a 16-year-old that gets picked on. Uh, you're twenty two year olds, okay. Yeah, don't don't like this guy, but there's no way I'm gonna kill this person. You know, this isn't sometimes you hear about relationships and the uh love and hate is so close, so true. If you talk to cops, they say domestic violence is the most intimidating thing to walk into because it escalates so quick, and the ones that end up perpetrating the violence or becoming victims, they always say it's the first time, and that's true.

It's because the emotions got the best of you. This is not an emotionally filled thing. You got to think about this. You got to be calculated. You got to be, you got to get dressed.

You got to be able to tell people, let people know by your demeanor that you're not going to kill anybody. You got to go up the stairwell. You're going to get your black outfit out. You're going to get your shirt that says you're for freedom.

So no one suspects that you might be anti-Charlie Kirk because he's for freedom. And then you got to scope out the best building. You got to find a way to get on top of those roofs. And then you got to see where exactly the stage is going to be and where can you set up. And then if I do shoot, where do I go?

So this is not rage. There's not rage. There's not, I lost my temper. I'm sorry. I punched this guy so hard.

Uh he he hit the ground. broke his head open, dead. You know, I didn't know what I was uh what I was capable of that.

Well, that's DWI. I got too drunk one night. I got behind the wheel. I made a terrible decision. You don't get a DWI being perfectly sober.

It's not possible. And to me, You kill for the first time. I think that he probably, and if he's on these gamer sites, That it indicates by what he wrote on one of those casings He is And by the way he was communicating. What was the name Allison of the Of the communication platform. What was it?

Discord? He was on Discord, so he's a gamer.

So maybe he didn't think like death was real and shooting in real blood was real blood. But not only does he kill, he kills in a horrific way. He kills him and shoots him in the neck where you couldn't possibly survive. And he dies.

So what is the m I mean, what is going on here? This isn't like, well, he never had a dad and he was lived on the streets and his mom was hooked on crack and he never had a role model, never had a brother or sister or a teacher. This is like, I had everything, this guy had everything. And then you get a scan, judging by what the tape I see online. He had a scholarship.

$32,000 to go to some college, right? And in Utah, it might be in-state tuition, might be a full ride.

So, don't tell me this guy had to get it. He reads this stuff and he says, I have to act. I got to kill people.

So Tom Swazzi was on with this yesterday. And this is what he hopes comes out of this. Code seventeen. We have so much work to do to try and heal some of this division. Like he just said in that piece you just had, we don't have to agree with each other and everything.

But we have to have civil discourse and talk to your segment, this segment is so important because you try to bring Democrats and Republicans to have a conversation in a civil way. And I'm so happy to be joining Tracy Mann because we couldn't be more different. I'm from New York, he's from Kansas, he's a Republican, I'm a Democrat, and he's my friend. We're friends with each other. And he wants to get the problem solved his caucus front and center.

I think he should too. Brian, you're in North Dakota. Hey, Brian.

Stay there. Um Just a real sad time for everybody. worthless uh use of it uh you know I mean uh to do this to somebody. But what I was reaching out to, your earlier guest was talking about the causes of this. One of them is being within the schools.

you're looking at what we're doing in our schools, we're training. As uh Stalin said, Give me my children for two years and they'll, you know, for five years and they'll be mine. And so now you have all the gay right activists in cross-dressing and everything else going on in the And pride. Stuff in elementary schools. And I work and deal with a lot of college.

Uh professors. and they're still they're they're still glorifying this they're um they're socialists they've been socialists all their lives Their parents were teachers and socialists. I came from an area that had a very strong Presbyterian Conservative College. Uh it's now just a woke mess. And uh Unless we get a hold of our school.

We're going to continue to train our children to do this. I know. You know what? That's a good point. That has to be a portion of it, too.

But the fact is, how do you kill people? I mean, if you're not from that environment and if you have a relatively soft life. What makes you say, okay, I'm going to be a sniper and I'm going to kill somebody unarmed from a distance and try to get away with it? It's as if they don't understand this is real life or what real life is. Good points.

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From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Killmead. With a high degree of certainty, we have him. In custody. Guy? In custody, everyone did a great job.

We worked with the local police, the governor. Everybody did a great job. You know, getting somebody that you start off with absolutely nothing. And we started off with a clip that made him look like an ant. That was almost useless.

We just saw there was somebody up there. And uh so much work has been done over the last two and a half days.

So that was the news. The President shared with us at 8 o'clock in the morning Eastern Time that they got this guy who we later know as Tyler Robinson, 22 years old, lives in the area. They found him three and a half hours away. That was something that Eric Trump cares deeply about because Charlie Kirk, by all accounts, was like the. was like a brother to Eric, and they know they work side by side.

He was like family. Everyone, even the President of the United States, really says he felt that way. Eric has a book out. It's called Under Siege, My Family's Fight to Save the Nation. Eric, you must be relieved that your dad was able to make that announcement.

Brian, I can't even tell you. I mean, honestly, when I was watching Cash Patel, obviously, I was watching my father on Fox and Friends this morning and. You know, Cash is a dear friend of mine. Charlie was a dear friend of mine. I met Charlie when he was 21 years old.

He came into the Trump organization and he. I was, I think, the first one that met him in our family. And he told me about all these lofty aspirations that he had to grow, you know, kind of this movement across college campuses and reverse the indoctrination of our kids. And they had one or two kind of college setups at that point, but nothing like the organization it is. Turning point was just getting going, and yet he depicted exactly what Turning Point is today.

I mean, word for word, I want to grow, I want to change the mindset. of kids across this nation. I want to stop the indoctrination. I want to stop the wokeness. I want to be in every single college campus.

I want to have a major presence. I want these people on student body boards. You know, I want them challenging professors. And and honestly, as I sit here and and and and look and and just kind of remember the life of a dear friend. Looking back.

He did everything and more. Everything that he sat down and told me he was going to do as a 21-year-old kid. be accomplished and more. And honestly, maybe the greatest image of that was just seconds before he was shot. And you see these crowds of people and You know, they're they're You know, they have a love of this country and they have love of God, and they're so excited to be there, and they're having so much fun, and they're all wearing 47 hats, and they're all holding American flags.

The guy accomplished everything that he told me he was going to accomplish when he was 21 years old. When I first met him that time, he was a remarkable human being. He was larger than life. He's such a powerful voice. And he created and helped kind of fulfill a movement that is unstoppable.

You know, no bullet is going to stop that movement, Brian. And um We're going to miss our friend. We're going to miss our friend. And the thing is, now it turns out, if everything goes true to form, as we're hearing, this guy is a left-wing zealot. This guy does, there's nothing oppressed in his life.

He seemed like a middle-class kid. He goes to a six-bedroom house, living in Utah, basically stress-free. I saw a video online. He's getting a scholarship to college, 22 years old. And don't tell me life was hard for him, that he had to take action.

Life was great for him. And he thought the only thing for me to do now is to kill somebody in the prime of their life in front of a capacity crowd. And Not for and just before because he didn't like what Charlie stood for. That to me is. Insane, even though there's nothing about this guy prior to this that showed insanity.

Well, I mean, it's ironic, Brian, that he uses the words fascist, he uses the words Nazi, he's inscribing that on bullet casings, yet he's the guy standing on a rooftop with a German-made. Battle rifle. Right? Sho shooting at at a a a crowd of people who are Having civil dialogue and having so much fun, all smiles. Love this country, love God.

you know, fight for God, love our nation. Yet he's the one by himself dressed in all black on a roof with a sniper rifle. You know, give me a break. It's truly, truly horrible. And as you said, I mean, he got a free scholarship.

He had his life ahead of him. You know, how? How does this anger? You know, how how does it evolve in these people? And and you know, how are they indoctrinated to such evil kind of lengths that that somebody could actually take up arms and do something like this?

I I will I will never fully understand it. I I I can I can truly it's it's just hard for me to compartmentalize how somebody can get to that spot.

So your book under siege, you have an announcement about the book and where the proceeds are going.

So Benny Johnson's a dear friend of mine. I was on a show a little while ago, and he was a dear friend of Charlie's, and he was a dear friend of Cash's, and I'm a dear friend of Cash. I mean, you want to talk about all the circles coming. coming together where you have one of your Closest buddies arresting a guy who was one of your closest buddies, you know, talking about it with your kind of closest friends. It's also surreal.

It's all it's weird and it's surreal, Brian. But I'm going to donate a portion of Underseas.

So it just hit number one on Amazon. It's absolutely flying. And the whole book, the whole premise is they did everything they could to stop. our movement. They impeached my father.

They took away our our f you know, our our freedom of speech. They gagged us. They indicted us over and over. They went after us absolutely relentlessly. They took my father off of ballots.

They tried to they raided our homes. They they tried to break apart our family. They tried to bankrupt our f They debanked us. They tried to bankrupt our family. They tried to shut down our company.

They tried to throw us all in jail. I became the most subpoenaed person in American history. And I wrote the title, Under Siege. Before Butler, Pennsylvania, because that's what they were doing. They were laying siege, and then they tried to kill my father the first time.

And then they tried to kill him a second time. And then they tried to kill Kavanaugh. And Two days ago, they killed one of our our closest friends, one of the biggest people in in the Make America Great Again movement. I mean, if I published this book two days later, Charlie would have been in another chapter in exactly what they've done to all of us, which is which is siege. They wanted to take out our family, they wanted to take out my father, they wanted to take out powerful voices.

You know, they're attacking religion, they're attacking our constitution, they're attacking all of us, they're attacking everyone listening to this show right now. And that is their siege. And when they couldn't do it with legal lawfare, when they couldn't do it by lies and slander, they did it by violence. And there was never a more appropriate time to publish this book. And in Charlie's honor, I'm going to give.

you know a a nice Set of the proceeds of this book of all sales to turning point because we cannot allow his voice to be. Extinguished, we cannot allow our voice to be extinguished, and we will continue to stand on that stage. in honor of Charlie and everything that he fought so hard for. Eric, I think it's going to take a Trump to really step in because they do not have an heir apparent. They have talent, but they don't have somebody with his charisma drive.

I mean, they were soldiers. He was the general.

So I think that, that's the product. Turning point's got the people, they're going to have the money, they know how to do it, they could put together an event.

Now they need the headliner, and it would be great to see some of the bigger names with the Trump movement sustain it because you have the same message. And I think that would be great. Hopefully, you guys can work that out. But, Eric, I want you to hear some of this.

So, for people who think that you're exaggerating, and I know not many people do, but let's just say some people think you're exaggerating. This is the Attorney General of New York. Using all her resources to stop you, who doesn't even know you. Listen. I'm running for Attorney General because I will never be afraid.

to challenge this illegitimate president. Tonight we send the message. That no one is above the law. Forward to going into the office of Attorney General every day, suing him, defending your rights, and then going home. And they won the civil case, and you appealed it, but that was $750 million, and you had to scramble to get a bond.

And she was trying to stop you from getting a bomb. She wanted to carve up all the Trump assets, didn't she? She wanted to take our name off of every building around the country and thank God that we won and thank God the appellate division overruled her. Right, Brian, she wanted to extinguish our name, my father's legacy. She wanted to bankrupt us.

She didn't give a damn about the thousands of employees that I have working for me all over New York and the tens of thousands of employees I have around the world. She didn't give a damn about those people so long as she got Donald Trump. She went into office with one mission, as you heard right there, to get Donald Trump. And this is what I talk about in Under Siege. I mean, you know, they used legal lawfare, they used political lawfare, they weaponized the DOJ, they raided our houses, they debanked us, anything that they could.

to to hurt us financially, you know, waste our our time. A slanderous. Look at the dirty dossiers where they, you know, they said the most unthinkable things about my father. They were trying to do that to break up his marriage. and so many other things.

Look at the whole Russia hoax. Right? And when America is not buying it. Because they lost time after time after time the narrative. Guess what?

You know what they do? They resort to violence. Then they tried to kill him, but not just once, but multiple times. And that's the whole concept of under siege. We were getting hit from every side.

They were doing everything they could to stop the movement, stop my father's voice, as evidenced by the fact that Twitter. Ripped him off of Twitter, yet they left Boko Haram, they left the Taliban, they left Al-Qaeda. You know, they left the Ayatollah on Twitter, but yet The 45th president of the United States was no longer allowed to tweet. They wanted to get rid of his voice. They wanted to gag order him.

They wanted his mugshot all over the place. They wanted the 91 indictments. They wanted me to spend $300,000, $400 million on legal fees defending yourself from absolute. nonsense when Our family has never gotten so much as a speeding ticket before. My father decided to run for office the second time.

And this was their game, Brian. And that's what the book's about. And then they took your 80-year-old CFO and put him in jail twice. Because he wouldn't break and tell you the real story about the Trumps. I mean, think about that.

Well, I mean, they told him, they said, Alan, I mean, and this is a man who has been in our company for 50 years. You tell us anything about Donald Trump. And you go free. And he goes, I'm not going to lie. We run a perfect company, we run a perfectly honest company.

You know, I mean, they ended up getting him because He didn't declare his his corporate car on his personal tax returns. Like, I I I mean it's it's like unbelievable. I mean they they sent this an 80 year old guy to to jail for for a having a corporate vehicle. You can't, you literally, Brian, can't make it up. But they had crooked judges.

You saw that with Judge Marshan, you saw that with Judge Ngorn in New York. You know, and and um And honestly, Brian, the scary thing about this for me Thank God we had a lot of zeros behind our name. And thank God our entire family had a big voice. And a lot of what I talk about in this book is: my father's voice was taken away by the judge in the New York case.

So, guess what I did? I wasn't gagged, so I went down on the courthouse of those steps every single day. Oftentimes, I was talking to you. And I went down there and I laid out every single fact in the case and why it was a sham and why the guy's daughter was working for the other side. I laid out every one of those facts, and that's what I bring into this book.

And they gagged him, but guess what? They didn't gag me, they didn't gag our family. And we would not stop. We would not back down. We would not cower.

And that's ultimately why we beat Hillary Clinton when we were at a five to one disadvantage fund wise. And that's why we came back. Despite being against the entire mainstream media, and we're able to win again in 2024 against. The most unthinkable odds. How hard was it to keep the extended family together?

Because everybody listening to us right now knows, whether they were growing up or they have it now, stress when you can't make the bills or when somebody's having a drug problem or having a marriage problem, everyone's like, you feel the stress everywhere. But you have a stress that's pushing on your really on a family business that if it goes under, everything that you have, you lose, which is basically where your family lives. When you're down, like when there's no cameras and no media and you're at a big table on a Sunday afternoon, How stressful was it for the family?

Well, Brian, I think I shouldered all of that weight. I mean, outside of Washington, D.C., I shouldered it all. I think you know I'm the guy that runs a company. I'm the guy that was getting the subpoenas. My father obviously had executive branch protections under the speech and debate clause of the Constitution and a bunch of other things, so it was much harder for them to go after him.

And so, guess where they sent all the subpoenas? They sent them to me. I became the most subpoenaed man in American history, and yet. I go to bed every night at exactly 9 o'clock at night. We say four prayers with my kids.

They say the Pledge of Allegiance. I put them down. No drinking, no drugs, no nonsense. No laptops from hell, Brian. You know me very well.

You've known me for 20 years. I don't have a dishonest bone in my body. I've never crossed any line. Um you know no no pictures of illicit drugs no pictures of prostitution and yet Somehow, I was the guy on this side of the aisle, right? I'm a guy who wakes up at five o'clock in the morning, goes to work to fight for a beautiful family, right, and company, and yet.

Somehow, I'm the guy that gets 112 subpoenas, and yet Hunter Biden gets away with absolute murder. We've got legitimate businesses, he's selling. finger painting all over the world for Millions of dollars or was, and yet I'm the guy who's apparently profiting off of government when I have to spend $400 million to. you know, defend ourselves from sham trials. I mean, it's the irony is massive, but I talk all about that in in Under Siege.

And um but our family never broke. They never cowered. Baron's an amazing kid. Tiffany is an amazing girl. Don and Ivanka are two of the greatest people on earth and and Uh you know we It's almost unlikely because you never see that.

You never see children of politicians on that stage. In fact, the number one rule in politics, as you know better than anybody, Brian. Keep the kids and family the hell out of politics. And you know, the only people we had were ourselves. The only people my father had were Don and I.

and Laura and we went out there and we fought. And when you see the assassination of Charlie, it's exactly what they wanted. They wanted to keep us off of that stage, Brian. They didn't want our voices out there. They didn't want me in every single swing state, they didn't want me at these events.

They're trying to scare us, and that's why we can never cower. Let me ask you something. And did you ever sit around and go, Dad, our life was so good? I mean, everybody wanted to play on a Trump golf course and go on your skating rinks and live in your buildings. And your dad and your family were going to every major event in the world, and then 50% of the country decided you're the worst, and 50% would say you're the best.

And all the courts come in, and all the power brokers try to destroy you. Did you ever go up to them and say, Dad, why did you do this?

So I'm going to tell you a story right now that I put in the book that I don't think I've ever shared, but I was in the office with my father when NBC was trying to sign him for another multiple seasons of The Apprentice. Brian, the number of zeros behind that contract. I mean, the apprentice was all that NBC ever had, right? Like at that period, right? They were getting beaten up by, you know, Survivor was on CBS.

NBC was failing in the networks, and they came in and they were begging my father, and they would put as many zeros on the end of the contract. I'm talking about contracts that would go into the billions. And my father goes, I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. He never told them why he wasn't going to do it, but about a week later he announced that he was going to run for President of the United States.

And so he had to run through 16 candidates on the Republican side. And these are people who actually knew something about politics. I always joke. I've joked with you a million times, Brian. I didn't know what a damn caucus was, right?

Like I built skyscrapers. I built golf courses. I built and operate commercial buildings. We didn't know what the hell the delegate process was in this country. And yet, we have to run against Jeb Bush, who had $350 million before South Carolina stuffed in his super PACs.

Right, against an entire mainstream media who are laughing at us. And, you know, it's really remarkable. And then, and by the way, if you beat those 16, you had to run against Hillary Clinton. Eric. And yet he turned out billions of dollars in order to do all of that.

I mean, the guy is amazing. And unfortunately, Eric, we're up against a heartbreak, but the name of the book is Underseas. A portion of the proceeds are going to turning point on a very difficult time. Eric, thanks so much for sharing your time. And I'll talk to you on television next week.

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