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Look at my roster of guests today. Ben Shapiro, unwind what's going to be happening on college campuses. Is anti-Semitism now a thing of the past? Keep your fingers crossed. Tom Kirsting, put the phones away, not just in high school and grammar school.

How about in colleges? He's going to weigh in with us and Madison Oldworth on the media moments that matter the most. But first, the most impactful monologue, and by the way, fastest in America. The theme this week: the energy edge. Wherever you look, energy matters.

Think about it. Whether it's sanctioning countries like India for buying cheap Russian gas, which in turn fuels Russia's war machine, or Ukraine hitting back, smashing Russia's energy infrastructure, which happened last week, forcing rationing of oil and gas in daily life and affecting everyone's daily life, or right here at home, building a massive framework needed to power the rise of artificial intelligence across our country. One factor sits in the center of it all. It is energy. The country that can generate it, obtain it, control it will control its own destiny, especially in the AI age.

And if the U.S. has any shot of winning the AR race, we need to power, literally get the power to literally do it. And data centers like this need to be fueled. That means these data centers have to scale fast. China's already there.

With most of their energy infrastructure in place. In fact, in 2024, China installed three hundred fifty seven thousand megawatts of wind and solar. That's roughly the amount of wind and solar that the United States has installed in our country's entire history. China did it last year. It's true.

To compete and win, we need all of the above approach. I'm talking nuclear, we're already moving. Natural gas, we're the best. Coal, we're rediscovering it. And whatever renewables can realistically deliver.

You should be open to all of it. The team in charge of lifting the regulations, expanding the energy basin, clearing the massive need for private enterprise investment is Energy Secretary Christopher Wright and Interior Secretary Doug Bergham, and let me add Lise Elden, who's the EPA Director. Energy is not one sector of the economy, it's The sector of the economy that enables everything else. But we have U.S. energy dominance.

It it does two things. It builds American prosperity and brings peace abroad. And almost from the day they were actually confirmed, they've been in action. The other leg in the three-legged stool, the man to carry the weight of that mission, loosening regulations put in place by Joe Biden, Barack Obama, and Bill Clinton, and unleashing American energy is EPA Administrator Lee Zeldon. Lee, did you realize when you took the job the amount of responsibility that was on your shoulders?

Yes, I knew that we were inheriting a very big mess from decisions that were made, especially in 2023 and 2024, where you had a policy decision to strangulate out of existence entire sectors of our energy economy, some of which you just referenced. And we have to make sure that we're not just fixing the mess, but we're doing it at the same time all at once, straight out of the gate. There's no pacing ourselves. We have a lot of catching up to do. And what it amounts to in one year is more deregulation than entire federal governments across all agencies, across entire presidencies just at the EPA.

The AI is demanding you do something else. You want to loosen regulations, get the price of oil and gas down. I got it. It's going to help people every day. I understand it.

But if AI is going to be the future, it needs a massive amount of power. What responsibility is on your shoulders for that? We have to unleash energy dominance in this country. President Trump created the National Energy Dominance Council, led by Chair Doug Bergum, you just referenced, the Vice Chair Chris Wright. I've been involved in that, Howard Luttnick, and others.

We meet often with the President, and it's important that we're not all siloed off, just working on our own agencies' equities and jurisdiction, that we are working together to move quickly. EPA is able to help with permitting, to get permits done fast, to help with cooperative federalism, working closely with states and local municipalities, and siting.

Sometimes these locations, with the data centers and otherwise, the plants will go on former brownfields, Superfund sites.

So there's a lot that the EPA can do to help. Obviously, the regulations that we inherited are a big part of it. And for us here in the United States, we have to view ramping up baseload power as something that's not just good for our economy and our national security. It's also better for our environment because we do it so much better than so many other countries around the world.

So you also thought the best thing to do would be to shelve some of these wind programs. Why does it work for some and not the others? And what about even some of the programs that are 80% done? Why does it work in our best interest to shelve them? Yeah, I mean, there was a lot of movement on offshore wind, especially, and these projects off the coast.

I'm a New Yorker, as you well know, Brian. The economics of these projects, the inefficiencies of these projects, especially when it's viewed as a substitute for baseload power. It's not a substitute. It's an intermittent source of energy, and what you're able to get out of it is less reliable and it's more costly. And we have to make sure that we are ramping up all these baseload powers.

Now, in New York, they won't allow the extraction of natural gas. They're not approving new pipelines. They won't allow the gas hookups to new construction. They're trying to get rid of the sale of gas-powered vehicles. And they've set these climate goals that the people in Albany setting the goals know that they will not hit.

But in order to try to hit those goals, they'll cause a lot of economic pain on people who can afford. The economic pain the least.

So we can't go along with this narrative that we go all in on these offshore wind projects and we forego the reality of massively ramping up baseload power with opportunities that are abundant all across America.

Well, we'll see you get nuclear power going, and it's never been easier to get nuclear power going. I guess you got the miniature sets. What I think is maddening for you is that you don't, they don't, in these red, in a lot of these blue states, they don't even want a pipeline to come through the state, let alone decisions they made in New York not to punch holes for natural gas, frack, at the same time Pennsylvania is prospering because they did. How do you convince these people to get out of their ideology for the good of the country? I think the people of the state, the voters, they need to speak up passionately and demand this level of action.

For those governors in those New England states, some have been speaking up. I was just in New Hampshire where Governor Ayot was speaking out about the need for more natural gas. Instead of relying on foreign sources of energy and forcing your own people to pay more for energy, get outspoken. Maybe get uncomfortable because maybe it's even a governor of your own party. In this case, natural gas moving from Pennsylvania into New England, constitution pipelines, the project that is on the table to be able to get that done, that is so much better than doing nothing.

But I would say, as a New Yorker, That New York shouldn't just have a pipeline that's passing through the state. New York should be tapping into the natural gas that's right here in New York. Right. You got Cuomo shelving nuclear power with nothing to replace it. And then you see how upstate is suffering because they won't frack, even though the environmental study showed it would not hurt it.

Something else is happening. Look down in New Jersey. Not only are their taxes through the roof, but so are their utility costs. And they were energy, so much state-independent energy providers. What happened?

Yeah, I mean, these policies that are coming out from the state level are not fully embracing all of these opportunities for more baseload power. And you have a lot of people who are elected officials who are afraid of their shadow on the left. And instead of being led by those people, you're the elected official. You should be leading your own base. And maybe you have to work harder to explain yourself as to why you're taking policies that might be associated with the middle or the right of this country, but you do it for your people.

There's no reason for us to be sitting on the sidelines anywhere in America, especially in these blue states, not allowing your people to be able to tap into more consumer choice, lower energy costs, more freedom, and a better economy so that people don't have to flee states like New York and New Jersey for elsewhere where their money goes further. Instead, they can stay in a place that's always been their home and they love and they could thrive. But unfortunately, politicians are denying them of that, and it's wrong. It is wrong. And if you live paycheck to paycheck and your utility bill doubles, somebody's not getting paid every single month, and it's unnecessary.

Real quick, gas is at a five-year low. That's good. But if we're going to actually force Russia to stop this war in Ukraine, We got to drive the price per barrel down. What's your role in doing that? And can you get Saudi Arabia and other behemoths like us to join us?

Yeah, for sure. I mean, on the permitting front, when there is a project that requires an approval from the EPA, instead of us gumming up the works and slowing it down, we're doing what we can to be able to speed it up. One of the proposals that we announced a few months ago is on a regulation called Quad OBC. That's something that was advocated for by people, by companies that want to invest more in exactly this right here in the United States. And then we also have to be outspoken and speaking up against and acting against any of these blue states that are trying to shut down access to these pipelines.

Even the left admits that pipelines are a much safer way of transporting all these different forms of energy power than instead of putting them on truck or train. If it's better for the environment, then maybe we should be building more pipelines right now as opposed to stopping it because you're, again, afraid of your shadow to the left. One of President Trump's most effective staffers, EPA Director Lise Eldon. Thanks so much. Thanks, Brian.

Speaking of AI, we've all heard about the massive pledges coming from major U.S. companies and the Trump administration itself to ramp up production of data centers, accelerate innovation of space and try to quickly catch up to China. Can we do it? This week, Meta's Mark Zuckerberg not only joined the coalition of those willing to spend or pledging to spend, he announced an eye-popping investment. Watch.

This is something given to me by Mark Zuckerberg. And you'll see this is AI now.

So, this is one he's building in Louisiana. Look at that, that's the size of Manhattan.

So that's superimposed over the island of Manhattan. It takes up A big part of Manhattan. I think they say 81% of Manhattan.

So these are big things. Big things and we got to build them.

So are we on our way to winning the AR race or making sure China doesn't? My next guest has been skeptical of all these pledges in the past. He's joining us right now and you know him well, Patrick McGee, technology journalist, business journalist and author of Apple in China, a great book. Patrick, are we pledging or are we spending and building since President Trump took over seven months ago?

So, are you referring to Meta or are you referring to Apple? I mean, I think Meta's pledge. Has a strike of reality to it. And actually, by superimposing the image of that data center on Manhattan, obviously a city that Trump knows very well, he's making a tangible promise where you're going to know whether this thing actually takes place and is built in Louisiana. We know the size, we know the dimensions, we know that it's supposed to be 81% of the size of Manhattan.

Whereas when you look at Apple's pledges, they're far less Real, they're far less tangible. It's hard for me to. make a flight somewhere, you know, and go go Go sort of audit what Apple is up to. When they announced they expanded operations in Corning, well, they've had operations in Corning since 2007.

So, who am I to say whether or not it's happening at a faster clip or a slower clip than when Trump became president? It's really hard to know. Whereas I think Zuckerberg is sort of. Doing something more brilliant and sort of less caricature-like than just going to the Oval Office and giving a hunk of gold to the president? True, and look, he's got to build it.

This is why I'm a little bit more optimistic, is because I'm not asking for a favor to come back and build here because you love the red, white, and blue. For AI to move forward, we're going to need a lot more power. And to compete against China, we just need power, we need the data centers.

So without it, They can't be successful themselves anywhere.

So that's why I think that Oracle, Meta, Apple and others, ChatGPT and Sam Altman, they might be really looking to spend that money and build those centers. Yeah, I think this is a huge opportunity, and to not do so would be a real deficit. I mean, what America tends to prize is invention, and what China tends to prize is scale and expansion and efficiency based on those inventions, right?

So, the more that the U.S. recognizes that we haven't been doing enough outside of design and invention, the better it is. And so, if Meta is leading the charge here with the $50 billion investment on top of the likes of TSMC building fabs in Arizona, on top of the likes of NVIDIA encouraging more of that investment and even drawing in Samsung and so forth, I mean, that's just what I love to see. I think that's absolutely fantastic. And I get asked so many questions about whether the iPhone is going to be built in America.

That's sort of a ship that sailed long ago, and I don't think we should really be instigating policy to sort of lure that back. It's really unlikely to happen. But AI data centers, that's the next big thing. And so, this is the time in which you want to see the scale and the infrastructure from these companies. Is China finished?

China looks at energy as if they've done enough. Ha ha ha haven't been there. You know what's going on there. Have they done enough? Are they that far ahead of us energy-wise?

So, look, China doesn't have the same chipsets, let's say, as the likes of NVIDIA, but they do have major advantages in terms of scale and in terms of electricity cost. I believe they have something like double the electricity capacity that America has, and they're growing it very quickly. Whereas we've tended to look at electricity just as a utility, not a sector that needs to be disrupted. And that's really changing now, where basically several decades' worth of electricity development is going to have to be confined into just a few short years. Because if America is going to compete with China, a lot of the quote-unquote AI wars are actually going to be based on infrastructure and electricity.

You know, just things that we don't tend to think about as foundational to technology, but absolutely are. Lastly, just real quick, when it comes to China and Apple, you write in your book that basically Apple has got to do what China wants because almost everything that they have, China builds, and they have the engineers to execute it. And there probably wouldn't be a Huawei if Apple didn't expose themselves and all their technology to manufacturing in China to begin with.

So is anything done since your book came out to rectify that situation? Yeah, the marriage of Apple and China is really scale.

Sorry, the marriage of Apple and China is really skill, meaning scale. What I worry about is that 25 years after that marriage, China has both the skill and the scale. The scale is sort of obvious. The skill would be seen in the likes of Xiaomi, Appo, Vivo, Huawei. And America still doesn't have the scale, kind of never did, and I worry that the scale is diminishing.

I don't think anything's changed in the last six months, but part of the recognition that I would want the reader to get from my book is to realize that we're not talking about a monthly month battle. We're talking about something that will extend well beyond the current presidency and last for decades. And so we need to be building policies that are about a multi-decade battle rather than something that helps for the midterms, let's say. I got to bring it back to the iPhone just for this topic. Fundraisers are upset.

They say Apple's expect to roll out a brand new update. It's going to be a texting update. They'll make it harder for the GOP to get in touch with a lot of the people they got in touch with last time because unknown senders are not going to be alerted on the iPhone. Everything I said was a pedestrian, a user way of saying it. You're the tech guy.

So do you think they have a reason to be upset? No, not really. I mean, you'll still get the alert. It's more just that, like, I wouldn't be interrupted by such an alert right now while we're speaking. Whereas, if my wife messages me, you know, my phone might light up, right?

So, you'll still get the messages. You're just sort of archived in a folder. And, yeah, that might hurt the GOP more because they're sort of more savvy at actually texting people, but there's easy workarounds.

So, if I reply to the text message, then it will no longer go into that folder.

So, as a political strategist, all you would have to do is sort of get people to actually be replying and responding and engaging. Because otherwise, if you're Apple just sort of instituting policy for 1.5 billion customers, you're just trying to figure out a way in which reducing spam and getting real people's alerts to you is paramount.

So, I don't think this is a politically driven message on the part of Apple. I can understand how it affects different political parties in a different way, but the response actually isn't all that difficult or technical to figure out. Patrick, you're a fascinating guy to talk to. I learn so much every time we engage. Thank you very much.

And pick up his book. It's fantastic. Appreciate it, Patrick. Thanks, Brian. My pleasure.

Next, with school back in swing, Ben Shapiro is here to discuss the state of college campuses and still to come on this show. At least 35 states have banned cell phones in schools, the real impact on your kids. And don't forget, Fox Nation is going to be streaming my next show. Thanks for everyone who came out in Dallas. You have a chance to catch up to me in Richmond, where Lawrence Jones is going to join us on stage.

Richmond, Virginia, September 27th. It'll be streaming, but go in person, BrianKilmey.com, and Pottstown, Pennsylvania, November 1st. I will see you all there. Hey, Tom Hoodie, I'm the one I'm raving down the team on the long lost highway. Me and this man won't stand to the fans getting straight up sideways.

But baby, I missed your blue cockpit. What's the secret to a lost? College students heading back to class this week, and Governor Kathy Hochul of New York is hoping to avoid another semester of pro-Palestinian anti-Semitic protests on campus. You think? New York is signing a new law requiring every campus in the state to appoint a Title VI anti-discrimination coordinator within the next year.

The coordinator will investigate complaints and provide training modeled after their gender bias teams. Let's hope this works. This is an all-new report shows. House Republicans are investigating UCLA, UCSF, the University of Illinois College of Medicine, all for failing to address anti-Semitism on their campuses last semester. And when it comes to the Trump administration's fight against colleges, they are refusing to back down.

Linda, how about it? And we want nothing less. Then $500 million from Harvard. Don't negotiate, Linda. They've been very bad.

How are you doing with the colleges, by the way? You're doing some pretty good work. In terms of. getting them to treat people fairly.

Well, interestingly enough, since we've been negotiating with some of the Ivy League schools, I have presidents of universities calling every single week. They want to sit down. And talk to us about all of the steps that they are taking because they would like to not come under the same investigative program. And so it is having its desired effect. That's great.

It all sounds good, and I'm sure Harvey's going to cave shortly. Joining us right now for more on the state of college campuses is the host of the Ben Shapiro podcast and author of the brand new book, Lions and Scavengers: The True Story of America, Ben Shapiro. Ben, I know we hope anti-Semitism's in our rearview mirror. What do you expect this year, knowing the schools, I don't care what they think, are going to have to literally pay a price if it gets out of control again? I mean, I think that it's going to be significantly less bad this year, specifically because of the Trump administration.

I mean, if you had gotten Kamala Harris, God forbid, then the protests would have been totally out of control, given the fact that the war in Gaza is ongoing and the fact that places like Colombia are in Zara Mamdani's.

Soon to be mayoralty.

So, you know, I think that the Trump administration saying that Title VI will in fact be enforced, that you guys are going to have to pay the price, the administration, if they don't do what they're supposed to do in quashing anti-Semitic College campus crimes, and here we're not talking about free speech issues, we're talking about discriminatory environments preventing people from getting to class. Violence and all the rest. The Trump administration has been doing an excellent job here. I think you'll see a lot more colleges comply with the law. I mean, it's unbelievable that we had Joe Biden just not say a word, and Chuck Schumer, a Jewish New Yorker, watched the rage at Columbia NYU City College and not really say anything.

How is that acceptable? He wrote a book about anti-Semitism. I mean, it's disgraceful, but Schumer himself is a disgrace. His claims to be some sort of great fighter against anti-Semitism keep running up against reality, and he keeps coming up short. I want you to bring it to this soundbite from last week.

We had Noah Tishby on. And she says the problem is not just in college, it starts before that. Listen to this. This is not starting out of nowhere in college campus. What has been going on is a severe indoctrination that is K through 12 all through our education system.

We saw a lot of things that are extremely concerning. They're talking about oppressor and oppressed putting everything through these paradigms, putting the Jews into the oppressor category, completely ignoring thousands of years of oppression against the Jewish people, completely ignoring history.

So that's more concerning than the colleges, because colleges, you make a choice. You're born a lot of times into your school because it's in your neighborhood. Is this a real threat in your mind? It is. And I think that anti-Semitism in this context is merely sort of a symptom of a broader evil that you hear Noah sort of referred to in passing, which is this oppressor-oppressed matrix.

You know, the scavengers, as I call them, this sort of weird agglomeration of people, the queers for Palestine and the third worlders against capitalism and all this kind of stuff. All these people march together because they have decided that American society, Western society, Israel, all of these are indicative of a system that is oppressive and evil and exploitative, and it must be torn down to the ground. And the way you can tell if somebody is an oppressor is if they're successful, and the way that you can tell somebody is oppressed is if they are a failure. And by that logic, what you're going to get is what Franz Vanon called the wretched of the earth, this kind of giant conglomeration of people who come together just to tear things down. And that's being built up not just in the K through 12 system, it's being built up on social media, it's being built up by foreign actors.

I mean, it really is the great battle of our time intellectually. Yeah, I just think it's up to parents. It's no longer sneaking up on you. Find out what your kids are studying, ask to see their homework and their day work. I want to bring you to something else.

And feel free to punt on this if you want. But the Washington Post broke down. MAGA supporters into five categories. MAGA populists, Traditional Republicans, I guess the George Bush, Mutt Romney types, small government conservatives and fiscal hawks, more Mike Pence, religious right, that's Mike Pence too, the tech right, we're seeing that with a lot of the AI guys and now the revitalized Silicon Valley, and the Maha guys, led by RFK, a traditional Democrat. Do you think there's some validity to those categories?

And if so, where do you put yourself? I do think there's some validity to those categories. I think they all have fuzzy edges. I mean, you can certainly consider yourself sort of a populist Republican who has traditional leanings in terms of actual policy. But obviously, there are wide gaps between sort of the libertarian tech protes and the social conservatives.

There are big gaps in terms of foreign policy, between some of the more populist types and some of the more traditionalist types. Types. I will say that it's a somewhat uneasy coalition from time to time. And I think that it's unified against the left. But I do think that President Trump being extraordinarily pragmatic has been able to bridge all those gaps.

It is going to be fascinating to see which direction the Republican Party moves in any sort of post-Trump era because there is no Trumpism. There really is only Trump. And so a lot of those issues are still very much up for grabs. You know, like Washington, they said, was the only one who could have kept everybody together. And when he left, we began breaking up into party politics.

I'm not saying that Donald Trump's George Washington, but he might be the only one to be able to keep all five together. And the next man or woman is going to have a hard time with the lasso. We'll see. But you can't win without all of them, believe me. Lastly, real quick, I love what the president's doing on culture, celebrating America's 250th, and he's starting with the Smithsonian.

Stop with the political correctness and start celebrating America. Are you comfortable with this? I mean, I think it's wonderful. I think that the Smithsonian has shown itself to be, unfortunately, a tool of left-wing agitprop on too many occasions. And actually, infusing our national institutions with a pride in America would certainly be a valuable thing.

The president is smart enough and savvy enough to understand that politics and culture, you can say that politics is downstream of culture, but really it's a cycle and they feed one another. And the president understands that. Yeah, like he points out with the African American Museum: yes, slavery is terrible, and we should definitely talk about segregation, but talk about how we overcame it and where we're at now. That's telling the American story, not ducking it. Ben Shapiro, congratulations on your success.

Thanks so much. Thanks so much. You got it.

Meanwhile, cell phone use in kids is having a detrimental, lasting impact on mental health and schools around the nation are finally looking to do something about it. Tom Kirsting, here next. Ashes, you burn me, I burn you. Quicker than the corn liquor we burn through. I bet the damn devil himself is asking how the hell we ate ashes.

The Chevy Equinox is more than Welcome to Fox News Live. I'm Marianne Rafferty in Los Angeles. Homeland Security Secretary Kristy Noam saying ICE resources are heading to Chicago for an immigration crackdown, but she didn't offer additional details. It comes as President Trump continues to slam Chicago's mayor over immigration and crime. Mayor Brandon Johnson pushing back, arguing crime is improving.

Yesterday, he signed an order barring Chicago police from helping federal agents. It also protects residents' rights. And the Trump administration is reportedly weighing a proposal to rebuild Gaza after the war. The plan would place the strip under U.S. control for 10 years and pay about a quarter of its 2 million people to relocate.

The Washington Post reports the enclave would be transformed into a tourism and tech hub funded by public and private investors. Palestinians who leave would get $5,000 plus subsidies for rent and food. I'm Mary Ann Rafferty, now back to One Nation. Uh So, as school rings in a brand new year, one thing will not be ringing: your cell phone in the classrooms, I hope. Support for cell phone bans in our nation's schools is growing.

74% of American adults support banning middle and high school students from using cell phones at all, during class at least, up from 68% last year. 18 states now have full school day bans. Seven states have bans overall, and another 17 states require or recommend the local policy. Joining us now for more on this is psychotherapist and former school counselor Tom Kirsting, who wrote a book about this. You were saying this over 10 years ago, 15 years ago.

These phones are detrimental. Why do you think we're suddenly paying attention?

Well, it's big Parents are seeing it, school administrators are seeing it, teachers are seeing it. I did a lecture in New Jersey for a private school back in the spring, and two days before the lecture, they had banned phones. And I had two or three teachers come up to me. And tell me that in two days, they saw a major transformation. One student that was very quiet in the classroom was now bubbly and talkative.

the cafeteria vibing instead of everybody staring at their phones. And other schools where I've spoken at over you know, throughout the years that have banned them. Years back. The metrics are this. Test scores go up.

disciplinary infractions down, mental health episodes down, And communication up.

So it's a win-win. Did you start your career as a counselor before the cell phone? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I started in 1999. What's the big difference between the students that you saw?

So toward when I retired five years ago, prior to that from like nineteen ninety five to two thousand or actually till Yeah. Schools were an educational institution. They've now turned into a part education facility and a part mental health facility.

So schools are now hiring more counselors, they have wellness centers, and it's because, and it stems from 2012 when smartphones came out. That's when we started really seeing the metrics, the anxiety going up, depression. And you say parents, in many ways, are the problem. They want to know where their kids are, they want to track their kids, they want to text their kids. The parents got to let go.

Yeah, well, it's you know, what I was saying earlier, offset here, is that the reason why it's taken so long to ban smartphones, I've been advocating for this for years. I'm so happy this is finally happening. The main reason is because it's really the umbilical cord between a parent and child. It's been more about the parents, this idea of I need, what if there's an emergency, I need to get a hold of my children. How did we do in the 60s and 70s?

Tell me about it. Absolutely.

So I thought this was interesting. Ezekiel Emmanuel, you know, Rahm Emmanuel is his brother. He's a famed doctor. He's a professor. And he did this in college, and he noticed this difference.

Watch. I've had a policy of turning the phone off ever since I started at UPenn in 2011. But I began reading papers that actually just having the phone turned off and on the table was distracting to people, and they weren't able to concentrate or enjoy the conversation they were having so much.

So I changed the policy. Phones turned off and off the table in a backpack or in a coat. I also took computers out of the classroom for note-taking. Again, there's data that computers decrease the learning environment or they focus more on the content of the class. What they also did, he said, I went on further.

First, he said, go on that side if you want to use an iPad. Go on this side if you would just take, put your phone away. And then he said, get rid of the iPads. And then he said, I want you to write handwritten notes. That's how you remember better.

In my book, I talk about this, West Point, a professor in an economics class, did just that. One uh course section of students were allowed to use laptops and tablets for note-taking and other things. The other section was not. It was purely pen and paper. And the students that were purely pen and paper did way better on the final exam than the students that were allowed to use the use the tablets.

Amazing, right? And that's what Gutfeld does. You ever notice him? He writes it all out. And he's from the magazine world.

All right, so let's talk about this. Uh in the in the nineteen seventies They had some criteria to judge where you were at as a parent, as a kid. Before 30, did you have a job? Were you married? Did you have kids?

So, when you look at this now, this is the key to adult milestones. Those are the categories.

Now, the question is: in today's day and age, what percentage compared to 1975 does anyone check all four of those boxes? In 1975, it was 45%. In 2024, 21%. What have you seen anecdotally? Anecdotally, I'd say I see a lot of 20-something-year-olds that are still living at home, living in their parents' basement.

And I think the reason it goes, a lot of this stuff goes back to the technology. You know, the first. Bullet point there is getting out of the house, right?

So in order to get married and have kids, you have to get out of the house and socialize with other people. That's something that's been greatly reduced in this generation, is there's not as much of what we're doing right now. It's on a screen, and that's a skill that is developed.

Social-emotional skills are developed through face-to-face interaction.

So that's got to be the starting point before you can get married or have kids or do anything else. Right. I think it's also important too. I guess it's a little bit more expensive to do that. Maybe pound for pound, we're not sure.

Also, do you think what percentage are still paying their kids' bills up until 30? You'd be surprised, Brian. And that's where parents, you know, we have to, our adult kids at some point have to start adulting. And I think they need to start having to pay for food in the house, pay some rent, let them get a taste of what the real world is like. Maybe they'll actually want to get out of the house and get their own apartment if they can afford it.

And you have to split up the phone bill eventually. I think that'll be, you know, because you have two kids in college. That'll eventually be the story. Tom, great to see you. Pleasure.

Because you know, the country is finally catching up to what you've been saying for years. And next, the media moments that matter with Madison Allworth. Don't move. Don't move. From the oven double shot of whiskey They know me as J Dam Scott.

Fish Street. There's a party downtown near Fish Street. Hey, let me let you in on a secret. It's time for America's favorite segment. You know what I'm talking about.

This week, I gave the VCR, I gave my TV guide and the subscription to Madison Olworth of Fox Business. Madison, great to see you. Great to see you, Brian. You know your mission, right? You know your mission.

Yeah. It had been a long time since I had the TV guide in front of me, but I poured through it all just for you. And I found three great things to go through. I think we have a really good mix.

Okay, let's get to it. Yeah, so I wanted to start though first with the crime crackdown because Democrats were very upset with Trump's success in DC. We saw a lot of different reactions, but I thought this one was notable, okay? Because we had rep Jamie Raskins. He was talking about his problem with crime and the crackdown in DC was getting rid of it because it's always been part of our history.

Watch this. There are lots of Republican cities and towns struggling with crime. Everybody is across the country. Always, crime has always been part of our history, and yet crime is down. Yeah, so I feel like we heard a lot about takeovers and the problems, but this was new to me, hearing that the problem is that crime's always been a problem.

So, why should we address it? I know. I don't think he really had an answer. I felt like he was scrambling. I think the answer has been all week: well, Republicans have problems.

Well, the president should send, he was going to send people to the Republican cities to, or run cities, or states. I think it's just fascinating that they do not know how. To handle it because, according to the latest study, 80% of the American people say crime is a big deal.

So, what do you do if you want to criticize Trump no matter what happens? Right, and I think, right, he does talk about, like many others in the media this week, how, okay, why aren't they going to Republican-run cities? Because, yes, there are issues in every city, but the biggest cities with the highest amounts of crime are all run by Democrats.

So, it's not that he's choosing Democrat cities, it's just that our big cities in the U.S. are run by Democrat leaders.

Now, when I give you that assignment, I didn't say stick to news, I didn't say stick to business. Did you do any entertainment? I did. What a, how did you know? Because I'm gonna pivot now to movie star Denzel Washington.

If you've ever watched a movie, you've probably watched him, but Here's the thing. He doesn't watch movies himself. Watch this. Do you have any uh Dali Shah said this guy that you admire. I don't watch movies, man.

I really don't. I j I'm just gonna be honest with you. I don't watch movies, man. I don't go to the movies. I don't watch movies.

Is it because you make them? Probably. You know, I'm tired of movies, man. Yeah. Yeah.

How many films have you made? Too many.

So we gotta go to IMDb? I think 50. 50? When's your album coming out? Why you doing that though, Spike?

Like, the world wants to know.

Okay, so Denzel Washington, not the everyday man. He's made fifty movies and he's not watched a single movie himself. I'm stunned by this. I am too. You know, if you say I don't like watching myself on screen, a lot of people like that.

But to say. Do you like watch yourself? I hate it. That's all I do. Do you?

Do I watch? I try not to. There's a lot of times I don't even want to check the monitor because I always find stuff I could be doing better. But his new movie, Highest to Lowest, with Spike Lee again, to me, though, if you're doing this, is he doing it just for the money then? I thought people were supposed to love the craft, love entertainment.

Right. The first question was: Do you have any dolly shots? Which working even in news, that's when the camera's on a little track. You get a really nice pan. Yeah.

So that's truly artistry.

So, yeah, I guess maybe he's so long that he can't appreciate the art. I think he needs to go back to AMC, smuggle in some snacks, maybe pay for the popcorn. But it's a magical experience. I also think it shows he doesn't want to be a director because usually you've got to watch to be a director.

Now, the other thing is that we have another great radio show in New York City, The Breakfast Club, with Charlemagne the God. Yeah, so we're going to bring it back to politics because Charlemagne the God. Had quite the takedown of Jeffries this week. He called him apoc chakor and a puppet. Yeah, it's brutal.

Take a watch. I love having uh the speaker, minority speaker, uh Hakeem Jeffries. Because you know, I'm a political nerd. Like, I love talking about the current. Charlemagne hates him.

You do? I don't hate him. I just don't think he stands for anything.

Well, I think I think that he's I call him Apex Shakor. Hakeem is a puppet. Hakeem's not doing anything if Shuck Shun don't tell him to do it. And as simple as that. I mean, he's very cool, comment collect.

He's like, I don't hate him. I just think he's a puppet. Right. But is he in many ways, I think he's disappointed. This guy's a New York guy, charismatic, you know, good-looking guy.

You would think he'd be more of a personality. But do you really look at him and think that that's the next speaker? You're right. I think that's what Charlemagne the God says. And we know he typically votes more Democrat, but he was really real, if you will, through the election.

And so here's a Dem that's kind of disappointed in the Dems. I know, I agree. And I'll tell you, Charlemagne, the one thing is he's very honest. And he says I'm great friends with Kamala Harris. I don't think she ran a good campaign.

So that's why he's pretty popular. Madison, great to see you. Thanks so much for coming in. Thanks for having me. Do you mind leaving the VCR in the green room for my next contestant?

Yes, I'll leave it there. I have the U-Haul is going to back it up into the you can keep the TV guide. Oh, thank goodness. All right. Up next, your sneak peek of the week.

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Now, time for your sneak peek of the week. What's on tap? I'm glad you asked. The House Judiciary Committee will hold a hearing on Wednesday about Europe's threat to U.S. speech.

They got a huge problem over there. Nigel Farage is going to be here. He might be the next prime minister, by the way.

Meanwhile, Stephen Mirren's nomination hearing in front of the Senate Banking Committee is expected also this week. The other issue I wanted to bring up: another Biden aide set to testify, former deputy assistant to the president and senior deputy press secretary Andrew Bates. Is he going to take the fifth, or is he going to be honest and tell us what Joe Biden was really like behind the scenes? And the good news is, NFL season officially kicks off. This team called the Cowboys is visiting Philadelphia.

It could be ugly. For Dallas, that is. That is it for us tonight. Tune into my radio show Monday through Friday nine to noon. There'll be a quiz at the end, BrianKilmeatShow.com.

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