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Again, this is in Minneapolis. I mean, we had the horrific schools, that shooting of these politicians. And now we have uh something else going on in this in this city. Yeah, so so sad. I mean school is coming back and The last thing a parent wants to worry about is their child going into a battle zone.
Yeah. Absolutely. We'll follow that story as it happens.
So, Carl. Let's talk about what's happening with crime in this country. Over eighty percent of the people say it's a problem that needs to be addressed. Fifty-four percent approve of the way the president's handling it. But almost every Democrat is mocking the President and daring him to put National Guard in and do what they're doing in DC.
You have Illinois, Governor Hokul here in New York. And Governor Gavin Newsom, of course, and Mayor Bass of Los Angeles last month, your thoughts about how this is all playing out? Yeah, look. If you go back through history, the big cities in our country. the Democrat mayors were sort of blue collar, working class Many places Catholic.
You know, and they had a great relationship with the first responders, the police, and the firemen, and the. First responders, the BMS people, they tended to be Democrats because they lived in a Democrat town. And yet as the Democratic Party became increasingly, you know, sort of Soft on crime, whether it was in the 1960s when President Richard Nixon got elected by speaking out on behalf of the silent majority. And campaigning on law and order. Or take New York, your city, in the late 70s, in the 80s, and the early 90s, it declined in safety.
And they did an amazing thing. They elected a Republican mayor for the first time in 40 some odd years. And then followed him with it. Remember, Mike Bloomberg, when he first ran in 2001, was running as a Republican. Uh, you know, we're Dick Reardon out in California in Los Angeles, Republican mayor of Los Angeles.
Why? In part because. of concerns about uh disorder in the streets. And You know, the Democrats don't seem to get it. They don't seem to get that when they stand up and say, you know, defund the police or Cashless bail, or it's not really a problem.
I mean, people, particularly in New York, see it. in so many aspects of their of their life that they they know that's not true. And in fact, they said it. I mean, you're watching what's happening in Minneapolis now, there's mysteriously. Uh it baffles me.
They're having their their autopsy uh in front of the cameras. I mean, and listen to some of this meltdown. Listen to this, this one, Ada Barrecino, a DNC member, Cut32. I'm from California and I just You know, just like Florida, we've had a tremendous amount of raids. We're dealing with different circumstances here, but.
Um I've said this a lot, but Latinos in California are dealing with uh this ice crisis uh that mirrors um You know, I think we're we're living worse times than Then the times of Sorry about that. of the pandemic. Um it is uh just grueling. She all goes on to say that even people, just Hispanics that are there legally, are still going to work because they're so concerned, so afraid. Is that how you read the crackdown on immigration?
Look, that whole meeting was weird. I mean, they could not bring themselves to say illegals. It was documented and undocumented. In fact, they it was sort of a litany. They kept saying that.
They would refer to the American people and say, well, it's both documented and undocumented. Look, imagine what would happen if the Democrats stood up and said, you know what, we stand with the President. And finding these criminals Who have violated our laws and threaten the safety of our neighborhoods and our communities and getting them off the streets and out of the country. But where we draw the line is people who came here, unfortunately, illegally, many of them many, many years ago. And since then, they've contributed to our economy and to our society, and they've kept their nose clean and paid their taxes and been good residents of our communities, and we want to draw a line there.
I mean, it would at least put them on the right side when it came to crime and law and order. And it would give them something where, frankly, the majority of the American people agree with them. People in this country overwhelmingly want to do something to get the people who are bad actors off of the streets and out of our country. They have a different attitude towards people who have come here and have tried to make a life and have. kept their nose clean and contributed to their to our Communities.
I'm not one of them. I think that if people have been here over 10 years, 15 years, and they can get their boss to sign off on them, there could be some extended work visa, not citizenship. I'm for that. And I never would bring it up because I would say, first, you got to seal the border, and I never thought it was going to be sealed, and they did it.
So, having said that, I think we have a possibility. But I was shocked to see a poll that said 53% of Republicans for everybody here illegally out. You must have seen that.
Well, I'm with you. I'm not with that 53%. Frankly, I think the more that it that, that happens, the smaller that number is going to be because they're going to realize what an economic problem that's going to be. I'm like you, no guarantee of citizenship. If you want to become a citizen, go to the back of the line.
You know, you wait the next 18 years, but in the meantime, you You know, we want your your employer to track you.
So we give a report every year, you know, that you're behaving. We're going to check to make certain you're paying your taxes, that you don't violate the law. And uh Uh you know. But yeah, let's as a country say if we've got gang members coming into this country and we've got violent representatives of violence in our in our in our communities because of people who come here legally, get them. and get rid of them.
But Uh, and Democrats would be smart to do that, but instead, that whole meeting was like-I mean, it started so weirdly. I mean, they had that woman who stood up. A member of the DNC from Minnesota, an Indian American and representative of the Dakota tribe. And the first thing she does is stand up and say, I am a. Indigenous Queer woman.
Well, really, have we gotten to the point where you can't simply say, I'm, you know, soon. Susie Jones, representative of the National Committee here. And then she goes and does the acknowledgment of how terrible that we, the Dakotas, who were responsible for the entire Mississippi River, and you stole our land and blah, blah, blah, blah. But that's how they began their meeting. And most Americans, if they bothered to turn in and to tune into that, would say, you know, Who are you, people?
How weird are you? I mean, that wasn't normal. And if anything, Americans want. Normality in their politics and these strange, you know, it's worse than COVID.
Well, let me tell you, I was in COVID. We all were. Today is not worse than COVID. Uh you know, it's it's just not. And uh You know, what Democrats seem like they're out of touch with ordinary people, they are out of touch.
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I'm Janice Deen. Join me every Sunday as I focus on stories of hope and people who are truly rays of sunshine in their community and across the world. Listen and follow now at FoxnewsPodcast.com. But, Carl, here's the thing: they're obsessed with Trump, even worse in many ways than 2016 to 2020. They thought they were just going to get rid of him and they got him on Russia, and then they got to get him again on the Ukraine conversation.
And now that he's back, They're still obsessed with him. I mean, does anyone have a big picture to understand that Trump is going to be done and that there's got to be a way to fight another day? In fact, the bulk of their game plan is going to come to fruition in 2028. Why are they focusing on what they don't like about Trump the entire time? Yeah, well they ought to be focused on finding ways to say to the American people, we're with you and he isn't.
And we have a vision that he's not about making your life better. And he doesn't care about that. But instead, they've got to stand up and say, I'm an indigenous queer woman, and shame on you for taking the Dakota lands away from us and creating the state of Minnesota. And let's have a big debate about whether or not we're going to simply cut off all aid to Israel or whether we're going to castigate Israel. That was their choice.
And you're right. The anger at Trump, I mean, the the speech by the Democratic National Chairman where he basically said, I'm going to be as vulgar and as angry and use as many nasty words as I think Donald Trump is using against us. And I mean, look, you know. He is inside their brain. And everything that they do is a response to him.
And when the reality, if they were smart, they'd be saying, what is it that we need to do to get ourselves back in the good graces with the American voter? And that's what they should do. And what you do is you got to try to make people's lives better and say, look, the border's been sealed, would have done it differently, but this is where we go from here. When it comes to inflation, we've spent too much early on, but the President has brought it down as I'll give him the gift as quick as he said he was going to. But it's still at 2.6%.
He wants it at 2%. And he's not the first president to harangue a Fed chairman, so because he wants the interest rates down. And for the most part, almost every economist here in the Fox Business Channel, not just Larry Kudlow, thinks they should be down.
So that's Trump's style.
So I'm very curious to see if they're going to get a game plan. I know Ezra Klein wrote a book to say, you know, we're annoying people. I watched Farid Sicaria, meaning Democrats are. We just annoy people with the canceled culture, the judgmentalness, the apologizing for America is not working. I watched Fareed Sicaria say, why don't we just admit it?
Every major city has got crime problems and infrastructure problems, and it's run by Democrats. You know that he hated saying that. But at some point someone should I would love it for the country, for someone like Joe Manchin, if he's the right person if he was younger, to walk up and just say, Hey, this is what I like Trump's doing, this is what I don't. This is why I'd be different. I would love a Harold Ford.
I would feel so much better about the country if there was a Harold Ford-type politician running against whether it's Trump or Bush or whatever. Then I just say the country is not going to be dramatically different no matter who wins. But if there is a left-wing reaction to Trump and an AOC becomes president, can you imagine the head-snapping change?
Well, first of all, if they ran an AOC, they'd lose. Think about this, Brian. Think about this. You mentioned California earlier, and you had the woman from California DNC member. Think about this.
Remember, We had The soft on crime prosecutor Budin in San Francisco recalled. recalled because he was too soft on crime. We had school board members in San Francisco recalled because they wanted to change the name of Abraham Lincoln High School. We had the George Cascone, the DA in Los Angeles, beaten I think it was 65-35 by Nathan Hochman, who's a Republican in the city of Los Angeles. We had the prosecutor in Alameda County, Oakland, very liberal.
Berkeley, California is there. She was recalled because she was too soft on crime. And you know, we We have these instances. In Portland, Oregon, we had the soft on crime prosecutor in Multonoma County. You talk about a left-wing part of the country.
My uncle used to live there. Man, God dang, talk about left-wing. And he gets defeated by a career prosecutor who is a lifelong registered Republican. And this imagine what would happen to the Democrats if they got 10% fewer votes in cities like New York, Boston, and Chicago, and San Francisco, and Los Angeles. I mean, literally, they're getting beaten in these places by people who are conservative on crime.
And in some instances, registered Republicans. I know you're not a math guy. But you know what, you seem to know everything about everything. But when you see the tariff money coming in, controversial wherever you stand on tariffs, it's okay. Conservatives are like Larry and other people fundamentally have been against it.
Stephen Moore has been against it, but they're seeing the revenue come in. Are you thinking to yourself, we have to do things like this to try to balance our budget and reorganize our trade? Is this a way to begin to. to reduce the deficit Well, A, the money has to go to reduce the deficit. That is to say, we've got to control spending and take whatever money's tax revenues are coming in and apply them to reducing the annual debt.
extremely the annual deficit and thereby reducing the growth of the national deficit. But l let's be clear. I know about tariffs. I wrote a book about Mr. Protection himself, William McKinley.
three hundred, two hundred forty, three hundred billion dollars. This year, part of that will be paid by the companies that are importing those goods by shaving their margins.
Some of it will be paid for by the Poor people who sell us that by cutting their margins.
Some of it will be taken. care of in the play between the currencies, but the vast bulk of it is going to be paid by the consumer.
So we're putting a whatever it is, 200 million bid. $250 billion tax ultimately on the consumers. In the first quarter of the year, the first half of the year, that may have been mostly the company selling and the company's buying, but ultimately it's going to be the consumer who buys it. You cannot put a 25% tariff on a good and expect the company to be already making a 25% profit. That's not how the world works.
Profit margins outside of tech are not that big.
So A there are two issues.
So, make certain that any additional revenues we've got go not to more spending, but to but To reducing the amount of money that we are running in the red each year and hopefully reduce the deficit. But, second of all, let's recognize it's a tax on people that is not progressive at all. It's going to follow a fall with the same impact upon a family making $80,000 a year. They're going to pay X percent more on what they buy, as well as somebody who's got a much larger income. And as a result, it's going to be harder for people in the middle and the bottom to deal with these.
You send your kids back to school this fall, and you're buying tennis shoes that are made and fill in the blank in Malaysia, and you're buying jeans that are being fabricated in Bangladesh, and you're going to pay 20 or 25 percent more for them. That's just the way of the world. We'll see. When you slap a 25 percent tariff on them, or that Malaysian group opens up a factory in America within two years, and they avoid everything. And that's part of the other goal of this, right?
You may be right about some things, but there are certain industries that are low cost, are low wage. Low-skilled jobs that are simply not coming back. We are not going to be making blue jeans in the United States in the foreseeable future, not on a mass scale. We're not going to be making tennis shoes. To save money.
To save money, I'm going to begin making my own. I'm buying sheets of blue jeans, and I'm going to take my measurements a little bit later. Carl Rove, always insightful, always great. Thanks so much. Thanks for having me on.
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