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You know, my brother, I'm embarrassed. There you are wearing a tie on radio. Hell, I've never worn a tie, period, on radio. But you've been great. I appreciate it.
3%, that is a big number. Big number before the tax cuts kick in. I mean, that is huge. Look, I'm not an economist, but they always say you raise the rates to control inflation, which was at 9%. Nobody thinks inflation's out of control.
Don't say you worry about the tariffs. They came out in April. Here we are at the end of July. No big in fact. You would think that the Fed chair would cut rates and give the American people a break, put that dormer on their house or buy a new house.
Milton Freeman wrote a great book. About how the depression actually happened, the Great Depression. And he said it wasn't exuberance, it wasn't that. The Fed Tightened the money supply when it should have loosened it up. And he provides an enormous number of statistics.
This is what put him out there on the radar. He was right. The Fed continues to tighten the money supply when it should loosen it up because what it's doing right now is it's blunting growth. We could have enormous growth going on right now. Then the tax cuts follow.
It wouldn't be inflation. This would be real growth, not government-created paper. This would be real economic growth and prosperity. But he's got his foot on the brake. He does.
And lastly, before we get to your book, just on China over the last two days, it's interesting. Very little posturing, politicking, tempers. We're here at 75 Chinese send 75 people. We have 15, and we deal pretty intensely for two days. How do you feel about the President going into deal mode instead of confrontation mode?
Well, he's got confrontation mode hanging right here, as Putin found out, as the Iranians found out, as the others find out. I think they know what most Americans don't know. Xi, right now, it's literally fending off challengers to his power. He's trying to kill them or remove them, generals, and so forth, and so on. Their economy is hurting.
The average person there is not doing that well. They're trying to restrain the outflow of cash. From China right now.
So they've got a lot of problems going on. And so I think they're ready to be dealt with. And they don't want, and they can't use massive tariffs put on top of all this right now. Xi could lose its power.
So, I think we're in a perfect position. Yeah, I just don't think. And if you hear about it, you wouldn't think this, but they have no social safety net.
So, therefore, they're not spending a lot of money because they're responsible for their own, you know, long-term care, so to speak. And so, they're not spending any money. And a lot of them are losing their jobs.
So, you can't get them to spend on themselves.
So, they have to export. And if we're not buying their stuff and Europe's not buying their stuff at the rate, they're really in trouble. Mark, let's talk about the book. You come up with these deep perspectives, these ideas, and you grow them. But I love when you stake it in and you build it off.
the making of the the forming of our country and our constitution. Tell me about power. First of all, I want to thank you for reading it. It's clear you read it. You did that interview over the weekend, and I appreciate it.
Even now, you're very generous. Look, I'll be honest with you. I was lying in bed for two and a half months because I tore my tenant 100% and I got sick of staring at the ceiling.
So I started thinking about. Like a nerd, you know, the founding of the Revolutionary War, liberty, tyranny. I said, something's not right. And all these decades I've been talking about it. And what's not right is.
When you read the scholars, when you read even the ancients like Aristotle, you read what are they always talking about? They don't really say it. They're talking about power, who gets to make decisions. And then you look at our country. Why is our country so great?
Why is it different? Greater than Western European societies. And the reason is. The basis for our founding. And what's the basis for our founding?
Now, whether people like it or not, whether they believe in faith or not, whether they're Jewish or Christian or not, it doesn't matter. This is how the nation was founded on Judeo-Christian values fused with the Enlightenment.
Now, what does that mean? They tell us what it meant. The sovereign is God. Read the Declaration of Independence. Four times God is mentioned in different ways.
They say that's the sovereign.
Now we on earth, his children are the sovereign when it comes to governing ourselves. We are the sovereign. No government, no masterminds, no experts, no small cabal, period. And you need to have a civil society before you have a government. What's a civil society?
Civil society is a collection of free individuals who come together to create some kind of order and justice and law to protect their liberty and their property and so forth. From there, you get government. That's basically what the Declaration says. That is completely different. Than the ideology of Marxism or fascism or even political Islamism.
What do they say? They say there's one way, there's only one way. Marx attacked the idea of individualism and free will. He said it was selfish, that everybody had to come together under one umbrella, that people needed to make decisions about what's in the best interest of all the people. And of course, what happens?
We see what happens. You basically get these pollut bureaus, you get the party's more powerful than the country, and the people don't mean anything. You have to re-engineer the people, you have to re-engineer human nature, you have to re-engineer society. This is a police state. It creates power.
And that's why in the book I break it down into negative power and positive power and so forth and so on. And if you are somebody that wants power, wants to control your country, the idea of America is a threat because we are somebody that participates in the process. You're in power as long as we want to keep you there. That is something that absolute monarchs want nothing to do with. Does that explain in your mind why we seem to be, throughout generations, always on some level, be under attack?
We are constantly under attack. The trajectory is not good. I mean, you have respites here when we have with Reagan and Trump and so forth. The problem is like in our own country, once the Democrats take over, they make permanent changes to our constitutional system through the courts, through their massive bureaucracy. These activist judges in this massive bureaucracy are the opposite of consensual government, the opposite of representative government.
They don't give a damn what the people think. They tell the people what to drive, what to eat, what to wear, where to go, when to go. You saw in the pandemic, it was the pinnacle of control in these blue states and these blue cities and so forth, what they will do, what they can do.
So, the battle that's in this country is the same battle as I perceive it in the Revolutionary War, which is. Power versus power. Which type of power will overcome which type of power? What I call positive power? and then negative power.
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Now, back to Hamilton and Jefferson. Why was it important for you to outline their different philosophies? You know, it's interesting you bring this up. This guy, Jeff Rosen, at the National Constitution Center, wants to sit down with me and discuss this because he has studied Hamilton. And he felt what I wrote about Hamilton, I'm not saying was quite brilliant and very interesting.
And what I did is, I really dug into the Constitutional Convention, I really dug into a debate over the National Bank.
Now keep in mind, Hamilton. Madison, John Jay, but mostly Hamilton and Madison wrote the Federalist Papers.
So they were all for the Constitution. But it's interesting. If you look at Madison's notes of the Constitutional Convention, Hamilton made two very strange proposals. Number one, that this new Senate they were debating should be made up of permanent. politicians.
which completely rejected. Number two, he even entertained the idea of a permanent president, which was completely repudiated by the other delegates. And, you know, Madison's sitting there scratching his head saying, what the hell is going on with Hamilton?
Now, Jefferson wasn't there, as you know. He was in Paris doing other things. But all that said, so that it comes to a head over the debate over the National Bank. Washington turns to Jefferson. His Secretary of State, he turns to Madison, one of the greats, and he turns to Hamilton, his Secretary of the Treasury, and he says, What should I do about this?
What is the Constitution all about? And this exposes Hamilton. Hamilton versus Jefferson and Madison. And what Hamilton says is, Even though the power to create a bank isn't explicitly in the Constitution, it is implied in the Constitution. And this is where Madison and Jefferson say.
You've just destroyed the text of the Constitution. What do you mean it's implied? follow the text of the Constitution. The states determine. Banks, financial systems, and so forth.
There's no need for a national bank. And by the way, when Jefferson does come in, he gets rid of the national bank. And so this battle goes on.
So I guess the point is to keep it short and sweet. At our earliest times, the debate over an activist view of the Constitution and a stricter view of the Constitution. Exploded onto the scene. And we have the state constitutions that came together to make one constitution.
So we weren't writing it from, you know, we actually hit the ground running when it came to putting it together. Two people throughout history that you think we should take a look at. FDR lauded as one of the greats. We should revisit that because he took over a country in crisis for sure. But he really wanted, he has a second constitution that he puts out there.
And the other one is Woodrow Wilson. Woodrow Wilson in the late 1800s was one of the earliest so-called progressive intellectuals. That is, the progeny of Marx. He was spellbound by Marxism and Engels and so forth, and others, Hegel and Rousseau, but nonetheless.
So he kind of Americanizes this, which is why I call it American Marxism. And so he's an intellectual, there are others, and they build on this. They hate the Declaration of Independence. They say it's quaint, but why should we be bound by it? The revolutionaries, they wrote it.
They didn't feel bound by anything. Why should we be bound by this? Why? For the reasons I said earlier. They wanted the centralization of power.
We believe in power-checking power. That's what the Enlightenment was about: separation of power. Scalia said the Constitution is about separation of powers. That's the difference. Montesquieu said the same thing.
Once one branch takes over another branch, we have tyranny.
So, what did FDR do? FDR came up with a second Bill of Rights. What was it based on? It was based on Stalin's 1936 Constitution. And I point that out in the book, which is a great constitution.
But it's a complete lie, which is another thing that the Marxists and the Democrats do: lie, thought control, language control, like wokeism and so forth, as I explained in the book. Woodrow Wilson is a very dangerous and evil man. He was a eugenicist, he was a racist, but he was also. A Marxist. They called themselves progressives, you know, almost like Hamas.
They're very good at the PR game. And we're progressive, which of course they're regressive. It's like Hamas. Oh, look, helli Israelis are starving our people while they're killing their own people. That is Hamas.
Well, the progressives, that is the American Marxists, that's what they are, are the same. In that respect, they're very good at propaganda and using words, but they believe in thought control. Look what happened again during the pandemic on social media and so forth. They were trying to control discussion, control knowledge, control debate. And they do this all the time.
Understood. Mark Levin, this book is on power. It's one of the top selling books in the country right now. It is great, and it's really get your thinking. Mark, congratulations on it.
Continued success, and I look forward to seeing your show over the weekend. And you too, brother, you're doing great. Your Sunday show is fantastic. I would just talk to people and go to amazon.com. Any major bookstore, they're all out there right now.
And I want to thank you again. God bless you. No problem. See you again, Mark Levin. It's Will Kane Country.
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