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And let's just face it, it's the 4th of July weekend. You don't wait till Friday. Tomorrow is America's Independence Day. The holiday is on. and for a lot of the country.

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So, really, all things, Brian Kilmead, go to BrianKilmead.com. BrianKilmead.com. Welcome to the program. Of course, we're going to start with one. Big, beautiful bill.

And if I have the right to put out a kill-me doctrine as the fill-in guy, it is that perhaps this informal accommodation known as the magic minute. Because it's not a magic minute. You know, that's a like a like a fun little term for we kind of sh stop the clock. It's sort of like some states, if they're required to have a balanced budget, the state of New Jersey, for example, they freeze the clock right before midnight, and then it's like, oops, we're not, you know, violating the Constitution. You know, we just freeze the clock.

The magic minute. I think it's an informal accommodation that should be ended, especially when people abuse it. I knew for a fact I'm not a betting man, but I would have laid odds that when they, whoever they are, said that I saw the size of his book when he came out. I'm awake at that time in the morning.

So Hakeem Jeffries comes out with like a, I can't say it's exactly like Corine Jean-Pierre because she actually wins like the Guinness World Record for the biggest binder in history with more post-it notes than you've ever seen. But this was a big binder.

So I said, all right, I'm laying odds that uh Hakeem Jeffries in the Magic Minute will go beyond forty five minutes, even sixty minutes.

So it was sort of like a range. He sh he should do no more than forty five minutes, maybe a little bit more.

Well, how about two hundred and forty some minutes more? Th this this thing started at A little before 5 a.m. this morning, and he's still talking. I think he's really like Proving that this magic minute is a bad idea. And by the way, Mike Johnson will still speak.

Now, he's not going to do what Hakeem Jeffries has done in this process. And, you know, just talking to the team right before airtime, we were just talking about the fact. See, I'm a big believer. If you got a shot, like, if you could, like, at one point, even before the magic minute, Jakeem Jeffries was saying all we need are four, you know, John McCain's, you know, trying to make it like it would be fantastic, you know, to go against your president, to go against reducing taxes, and all of the things that are included, funding for illegal immigration, funding for the border wall, and all kinds of things that are a part of this doctrine. I mean, it is a very big deal, and it's not going to fail, and the Democrats know it.

And if it did fail, you would be looking at the largest tax increase. In American history, not even close would be second place to that. But this is a little bit before the magic. Minute, if you will, but just to give you an idea before the vote, a little bit about. What and how Representative Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries of New York, what he had to say.

Eric cut for. These so-called work requirements. Adjust a smoke screen. Because more than ninety percent of the people who receive. Medicaid.

Benefits who can work Do work right now in the United States of America. But he wasn't done. And while it will not be in the clip that we're about to share, believe me when I tell you on the Brian Kilmey show that I'm not making it up. The minority leader, and I think this is like I'm all for it. Look, this is not beanbag.

Politics is a contact sport. You're not going to roll over. You know, you're going to try to win. They want the majority back. You know, they'll say just about anything.

But when they resort to saying, if you vote, if the one big, beautiful bill passes, that people are going to die. Ye you need to be able to back that up. How how how does that work? How's that going to happen by voting for the one big beautiful bill? People are going to die.

So, when they go over the top like that, I think they lose all credibility. But this is again before the vote, more of minority leader Hakeem Jeffries, who again is still speaking in his fifth hour, at least his fifth hour, maybe going towards his sixth hour of the magic minute. They got to look at that going forward. Eric Cut Five. The American people are forced to confront a bill.

that targets their health care. and will result in their well-being. deteriorating. More than 17 million Americans At risk of losing health care coverage, and then tens of millions. More.

Experiencing Increased premiums, co-pays, and deductibles as a result of the attack on health care. In this bill, Many of them will also lose coverage. I'm not going to go too far into the weeds, but I can tell you, because I've personally spoken with multiple members of Congress, there were members of Congress that had some Medicaid concerns. And President Trump addressed What's happening there? And for example Nine beautiful words were added.

to one big beautiful bill. which permits a lot of things here. Wraparound solutions that are called it could be called a wraparound tax, the ability for local, county, state governments to also be able to participate. That's included. It is not what Hakeem Jeffries is saying that it is.

But that is a very in in years gone by Years ago. When Jeb Bush Should have won. Governor of Florida. He was supposed to win, and George W. Bush was supposed to lose to Ann Richards in Texas.

They both ran. at the same time.

So Shazam, just the opposite happened. George W. won. But what happened, there was a governor by the name of Lawton Childs, and this is where this started. I always love to find patient zero demarcation lines.

Like, where did this start? Saying, like, people are going to die and push grandma off the cliff and those commercials in those days, and saying that, you know, Republicans or the Republican candidate is going to take your Social Security or take your Medicare or take your Medicaid. There's a reason they do these things. They test these items. In in public opinion And if you tell a certain voting block.

And let's face it, Your senior voting block is, I guess it's the most, why am I saying guess? It is the most reliable voting block. When you look at likely voters who have participated, this is a group they don't just barely qualify as though they voted in the last three presidential elections. And so good, you're a likely voter. These are people who never failed to vote.

their entire lives.

So it matters. If they believe that a candidate is going to take away their Social Security, their Medicare, their Medicaid, you're done. They'll see to it. You're done. It's enough of a sampling that you can't overcome losing that.

Jeb Bush was winning. He was poised to become the governor, and Lawton Childs threw the Hail Mary. And did the whole MetaScare thing. And guess what? It worked.

He won. Jeb Bush did win four years later, but that put George Bush, George W. Bush, on the glide path. I really think, just like the Kennedy family, when the older brother to John. died in service.

in World War II that he was the one. That was going to run for president. I believe that in the Bush dynasty, if you want to call it that, that Jeb was the one that was more groomed to. One day run for president more than George W. Bush.

But of course, when you lose, and your citizen Jeb. That was before President Trump labeled him uh what what did he call low energy jeb. Uh George W won. Made a name for himself. He had the George Bush name.

And then, of course, the rest is history. He goes on to win the year 2000 election by a whisker over then incumbent Vice President. Al Gore, just a little history lesson, which I know Brian is great at doing at his shows that he does. They're fantastic. If you haven't ever been to one, I have.

Go to BrianKilme.com and you can find all the dates right there. But getting back to one big beautiful bill and what's happening at the moment, this is just Yeah. At some point. Hakeem Jeffries. We'll take a sip of water.

A breath of fresh air. And get his round of applause. From his caucus. And then Speaker Mike Johnson will speak. And then there will be the vote.

It is my considered opinion here today on the Brian Kilmeat show that what likely is going to happen. 3:30 this morning, this was a big, big moment. They did the procedural test vote. They had to keep the vote open for six hours. to get to where they needed to get to.

They got to 219. Republicans. You just know the math. 213 Democrats all day, all night. They're always voting no.

So, this is one of these deals. It can only happen with Republican votes. Out of the 219. I don't think maybe it will happen. My guest.

guesstimate is that 219 will become 217. 217 wins. It would be 217 to 215 to 1 And one big, beautiful bill, which would be the identical bill that the Senate passed. Would pass. would be on President Trump's desk later today, tonight.

And the deadline that the President wanted to see happen so that he could sign it. On America's Independence Day, because this is a very, very big deal. The President is going to be kicking off a full year. Of festivities and celebrations for America's 250th birthday. See, I've always believed it was better that President Trump is getting two nonconsecutive terms.

He would have been done. And somebody else would have been in for the 250th birthday, for the Olympics, for so many other things that are happening.

So this is a very big deal. It preserves the Trump tax cuts. The tax cuts in the Jobs Act cannot be allowed to expire. It would massively, you know, we'll get into it, I'm sure, at some point today during the Brian Kilmead show. And thanks for spending this.

portion of your holiday weekend with us. Harry filling in for Brian. Passage of this. There are some things you cannot overstate how important they are. This is extraordinarily important because.

Guess what? If this failed, And if they could not. put it back together. You would see the tax cuts, the Jobs Act all expire. You could not then do it by budget reconciliation.

It would require legislation. That would happen in the House no problem. But it would not happen in the Senate. Because every procedural trick in the book filibuster, everything would be done. This has to pass.

And that's where I think We finally got to the finish line. I think it became, the truth became self-evident. The president worked the phones. Speaker did an excellent job. I'll tell you, Mike Johnson does not get the credit that he deserves.

You're looking at a circumstance here where he can only afford to lose such a small number. And, you know, I know what they say: it's 53, 47 in the Senate, and the margins are very, very close in the House, but you have. Almost a little more than double.

So you should be able to get there easier. It's not easier. When you represent a full state, It is utterly different than when you represent one district, where one district is completely one could be a rural district and there's complexities there. It could be an urban district. It's very, very challenging And that's why I always didn't like her job as speaker, but Nancy Pelosi.

was a good whip. She kept the vote. She kept the vote. And you got to give credit for that. And Mike Johnson has as well.

So, more on this when we come back in just a few minutes. This is the Brian Kilmead Show. Giving you everything you need to know. You're with Brian Kilmead. It is time to take the quiz.

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for the great Brian Kilmead on a busy. And I dare say consequential news day. More good news, and I think. We should get to the point where anyone who doubts this. Is ignoring That None of this is hypothetical anymore.

President Trump has an entire first term. of what I'll call trumponomics. And that was a point in time where we had an incredible peacetime expansion. There were no wars breaking out. Russia wasn't even thinking about touching Ukraine.

Uh President Trump had Iran broke and As a joke? On its knees. The proxies were not able to do what they do because obviously Iran was not able to fund the terrorism, the largest sponsor of terrorism in the world. That wasn't happening. every demographic, every race, creed, color, every demo, making wages the likes of which they had never seen before.

The economy uh inflation was nonexistent. Either infinitesimal or really many times even absent, no inflation. And yet wages were high. A lot of things. Usually, you know, when inflation goes up, you hope that.

Cola increases and other wage increases can help you stay above water because the prices are. climbing so fast that your wages are not keeping up. President Trump demonstrated all that. Then all the doubters came out again and said, Oh my gosh, why are you doing this tariff stuff? And I remember saying, and look, full disclosure.

I worked for President Trump. for about two and a half years. Every day. I know, and he hasn't changed his operating style. the way that he operates.

I always knew that he knew what he was doing with these tariffs, even though initially markets got very, very nervous about it. But if you know. The results have been coming in over the past several months now that this whole tariff stuff is baked in. They said, Oh, well, it's because people front end loaded and purchased in advance because the tariffs were coming.

Well, we're past that now, we're in the third quarter. of 2025 The job numbers are shattering. The expectations. Unemployment is ticked down. At some point, folks are gonna have to recognize.

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Welcome back to the Brian Kilmead Show with Allison, Pete, and Eric. My name is Harry Hurley filling in today for the great Brian Kilmead. And don't worry, he'll be back very, very soon. We have on the Brian Kilmead Show Newsmaker Hotline Brian Gans. He is the Chief Executive Officer of Berna Technologies.

Brian, welcome to Brian's program. Sarah? Thank you so much, and thank you for having me on on July 3rd. I'm glad to see somebody else is working today. Oh, you got it.

Yeah, there are a lot of people capping on us, Brian, so we got to show up, right? Without a doubt.

Well, it's great to be with you, and this is a perfect day to have this topic because we have an American President who's big time in favor of Made in America, and when it's not Made in America, us getting the best deal that we can involving trade. Unlike probably any President that's ever preceded him, I also think, Brian, that this trade deal with Vietnam is a very big deal. A very dear friend of mine traveled to Vietnam while President Trump was there. I mean, they love President Trump in Vietnam. And for those in the Brian Kilmee Show universe that don't know, Vietnam Is a big time, and I think could even be a bigger time trading partner.

And as you know, and the reason I'm not just pulling Vietnam out of the sky, President Trump landed a trade deal with Vietnam yesterday. Brian, your thoughts about that?

Well, first off, I have been doing business with Vietnam for over forty years. In my prior life, I was in the tire business, and it was one of the few places on earth where you could buy natural rubber.

So they have been an important trading partner for us for a long time. But this deal really moves it to the next level. And I think it is a harbinger of what's to come. I think you're going to start seeing these deals start to happen much, much more quickly now that the dam has broken and other countries see that there is an ability to get a deal done that frankly is win-win. Yes, exactly.

Brian Gann, CEO of Bernard Technologies, on the Brian Kilmeat Show.

So we're going to take full advantage of your great expertise in this area. Could Vietnam, this is a question I've really been waiting to ask you, Brian. I've been excited that you were coming on the program today. Could Vietnam Become the new China without all the other problems. Do you know what I mean by that?

I do. And I have to tell your listeners, we actually already do quite a bit of business with Vietnam.

So a lot of what we did years ago with China, we have been slowly migrating to Vietnam in any event. Number one, they're a lot easier to deal with. With China, you have all of these issues with the Chinese Communist Party in terms of intellectual property rights and just unreliability of the partnership. We really like working with our Vietnamese partners. Brian Gans, Bernard Technology CEO on the Brian Kilmeet Show.

So obviously, we're talking about trade. We're talking about the economic agenda. Do you think enough evidence has finally weighed in that all the doubters that went absolutely just bananas over Trump's philosophy of governance as it relates to tariffs have been proven wrong? I mean, early on, they said, oh, my God, it's going to be disastrous.

So, but we didn't see any sign of that with job numbers, with other financial data. But then they said, oh, that's because it's too soon. The companies bought a lot of stuff up front. They front-end loaded because they knew the tariffs were coming.

So, of course, you won't see it yet. But now, Brian, we are in the third quarter after all, and there's still no evidence that the tariffs have increased inflation or done anything that those who were panicking about it. I think the markets have actually caught up on the fact that the Trump tariffs are not, not only are they not going to Tank the economy, but he has brought trillions of dollars to America. I think we have enough evidence that it's working, but I'm more curious about your response than my thought. Yeah, and Harry, I hope you don't mind.

I would like to just give your listeners a little bit of a primer. With President Trump and with Scott Bassett and with Howard Lutnick, you've got three people that are, in fact, experienced business people.

So one of the things, and we all know President Trump and how he negotiates. When he came out with these tariffs, he set the bar very, very high. And everybody is running around like a chicken with their head cut off. But that was because you never negotiate higher. You always negotiate lower.

So you need to start off with that extreme point. Number one, it gets people's attention, it gets them to the bargaining table. But what you're seeing with these deals that are happening now is that they're being done at rates that I think everybody would agree are reasonable.

So I think people took this the wrong way, that they looked at his initial foray that was kind of an opening gambit for these deals and said, oh my God, this is terrible, when they just didn't understand that here's an experienced business person who's in the process of negotiation. The other thing that I don't think enough is being made of. If you are a professor at business school, you are going to correctly say, well, tariffs are a tax on the importer because the importer pays them. And maybe technically, that's correct. But in the real world, that's not correct.

And Trump and Besson and Lutnik understood this.

So there's something called INCO terms. And this is where you have either FOB free on board, you have CIF cost insurance freight, you have DDP delivered duty paid, we were buying some things from China. When the duties hit and the pricing would go up dramatically, we said to our Chinese vendors, look, we're not going to buy at this rate. And they came back and they gave us a DDP price, a delivered duty paid price, in which they ate the vast majority of the tariffs.

So when Trump is saying that, you know, The Americans aren't necessarily going to eat the tariffs, and everybody says, No, no, you're wrong. Of course, he's right. And I think not enough has been made of that because the Chinese and the other foreign suppliers are eating a portion of the tariffs because they don't want to lose the business. And Brian, what's so important about what you just said, and I am buying everything that you're selling, I believe it's provable math, you get all the benefits of the tariff policy, and you don't get the detriment of the cost being passed along. And we've seen that, whether it's automobiles or other industries, where it's not being passed on.

And people say, well, they're doing that in the beginning, but it won't continue to be that. But yet this has rolled out in a way that's been completely different than what all the so-called experts thought it would be. And you can draw from this, from your experience as CEO at Berna Technologies. You've adopted a policy where, and I think a lot of people. Don't realize this can still be done.

They think you have to get China, you know, because they, you know, even like an Apple in the old days, well, American technology assembled in China. Trump wants the whole shebang, all of it here in America, and willing to give credit and incentives for that. But you've adopted a policy where you source. Everything From North America, as you were talking a little bit about by land freight, you're not relying on China. And in rare cases where you do, you get the upside of that without the downside.

Am I correct? You are correct. And just if I can give your listeners a little background, Berna is the world's leading company making nonlethal self-defense weapons. We make weapons that look like a gun, feel like a gun, but they shoot chemical irrigant rounds that don't kill or cause permanent injury.

So this is a very, very serious product. This is a product that has to work. People's lives depend on it.

So we take our supply chain very seriously. Several years ago, thirty four percent of our components were from the U. S. The other sixty-six percent we imported from overseas.

Now everything is assembled in Fort Wayne, Indiana.

So we've always been an assembled in the USA product, but the majority of our components came from overseas. After the pandemic, when the supply chain interruption proved unworkable. and we went from JIT just in time inventory to JIC just in case inventory, it became clear to me that we had to have for every part a supplier here in the U. S. So over the last several years, we developed a redundant supply chain where for every overseas supplier, we had a U.S.

supplier. When it became evident that Donald Trump had a good chance of winning this election, we started shifting our production to the U.S.

So when companies say that this can't be done, I'm going to call BS on them because we're living proof that you can do it. We're a public company. We have a board committee that looks at risk. And we said, look, these tariffs are a real risk. How do we address them?

Well, we address them by finding U.S. suppliers. And over the last several years, a lot of things that you couldn't do in the U.S. a few years ago, for example, we use a lot of MIM components, MIM, metal injection molded components. Five years ago, there was not a MIM supplier in the U.

S. not possible to find one. Today, there's more than a half a dozen MIM suppliers in the U.S. and we buy from U.S. suppliers, and there's a lot of soft cost benefits.

So even if the price is a little bit higher, the freight is dramatically lower. The amount of time spent on getting it to the factory is dramatically shorter. And we have the ability to go audit the factories.

So we are seeing improvements in our cash flow. We're seeing improvements in our quality. A lot of soft costs that people don't really recognize. And if you look at Berna's returns, over the last two quarters, our margins, our gross profit margins have been going up. even with the tariffs being implemented.

So these companies that say you can't do it, you know, that that's just BS. And you know, what I do feel sad for these small little businesses that they're buying everything from China and they're a three person company and they don't have time or the wherewithal to be able to resource in the US. And maybe there should be an exemption for companies doing less than a million dollars a year. But For companies like Burna, where we do more than $100 million a year, we have the wherewithal to move production to the U.S., and most American companies do. Brian Gans, Bernard Technologies Chief Executive Officer, appearing on the Brian Killmeat Show.

And these uh self-defense products They are used by law enforcement, security, civilians. Very interesting overview, Brian, that you gave the Brian Kilmeat show audience respective of this. And, Jerry, if I could just interrupt one second. I just wanted to let your audience know: we are running a July 4th sale. Everything that we sell is 10% off.

So, if any of your listeners want to look at these non-lethal personal self-defense products, they can go to burna.com. That's B-Y-R-N-A.com. You just showed that you are the CEO of this company. Thank you, Brian.

Now, with respect to the tariffs, what I love about how President Trump works this, when some people get all lathered up unnecessarily, he always gives you a way to either escape it, mitigate it. He'll say, for example, don't build that car factory in Mexico. Build it here in America. And if you give us your word that you're going to build here, then we're going to build. We'll do this for you instead of that.

So here's your tariff if you build here. Here is your tariff if you build overseas.

So he gives folks, I think, a very operable way of avoiding a lot of this, Brian. Look, I think the worst thing with tariffs is to just have a blanket tariff where there is no thought that goes into it, because you certainly don't want to put tariffs on things that we can't make here. For example, I used to do business in Vietnam buying natural rubber. You can't grow that in the U.S. But for those things that we make here, a selective tariff and different levels of tariffs make a big difference.

So as I was saying, we are the leading global company in personal self defense weapons. We have a lot of competitors. A lot of them are Chinese competitors. And they sell Frankly, inferior products, which again, I don't know why you would buy something like that when your life is at stake, but inferior products at prices below our cost to make them.

Now that is just wrong. You can't even buy those products in China. They just make them to be able to dump them here in the U.S. President Trump is helping protect us. You know, we have close to 200 American workers.

We started this business. Six years ago for nothing. And these tariffs on our cheap Chinese competitors, these competitors producing knockoffs, they are helping us. They're helping our employees. They're helping us move production to the U.S.

So the thought that's gone into this is not just blindly assessing tariffs. There's a lot of thought that Lutnick and Besant and the president are putting into this. Brian, final minute. You prove not every model isn't the same. Like you said, if you're a small mop-hop operation and you can't afford to do a Made in America type of modality, but in the right circumstance, this is an absolute proof-positive example that Made in America.

can still happen, can still be profitable for a company. And I think a lot of people believed a certain number of years ago that Made in America wasn't possible because, obviously, the cost of labor and our human rights and how we pay fringe benefits.

So, this proves you can still do it. 30 seconds. Closing comment, Brian. Yes, one hundred percent. I mean, a lot of people light their hair on fire with stuff like that.

And my job is to present the truth. I mean, just for reasonable people, you can make it in America. And there is this other benefit that nobody talks about. People want to buy Made in America product. When we put the American flag on our self-defense weapons and we say Made in America of 92% American content, we see sales go up.

So there is just a lot of benefit of supporting the infrastructure in the United States and being patriotic. Brian, I'm with you on that. For example, the flag that we fly at our home, I do not ever buy a Chinese flag. You know, sometimes they actually short it a star or do something like they're punking us out with some of this stuff. It's not even, some of it's not even right.

It's terrible.

So I only will buy an American-made flag. flag. Brian, great to present you today on the Brian Kilmeat Show. You're the best, Harry. Thank you very much, and have a great Fourth of July weekend.

Same to you. Be well. We'll be right back on a very busy Newsday. And yes, Hakeem Jeffries is still speaking. He won't stop.

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Yeah. I call Brian America's historian. He's doing such an incredible job with the stage shows and just everything that he's doing, Fox Nation pieces, and of course, just the work that he does every day here on the Brian Kilmeat show, on Fox and Friends, and One Nation with Brian Kilmeat Sunday nights in the 10 p.m. hour. Joining us on the Brian Kilmeat Show Newsmaker hotline is Josh Crashauer.

Josh and I know each other. He's a great, great analyst. He is the Fox News Radio political analyst, editor-in-chief of Jewish Insider. You can follow him at Josh Crashauer, K-R-A-U-S-H-A-A-R. Josh, good to speak with you again, my friend.

Harry, great to be back with you. Happy July 4th weekend. Same to you. And I just have to comment: it's going on, it's almost like a Fidel Castro type speech. This thing is going on for more than five hours as we speak.

The Magic Minute is now going to have a new nickname because it's ridiculous. Hakeem Jeffries, as you know, he's still talking as we're talking, Josh. He's been speaking since the late 4 o'clock hour. He seems to have no end in sight. Proud of himself.

He's not going to, I think, do anything. I think this is embarrassing, actually. And I think they should look at this Magic Minute thing because he's abusing it beyond anything it was ever intended to be. Yeah, well, I think he's trying to do his best Corey Booker impersonation. He's trying to make a minute into like a 24-hour period to delay the.

The inevitable. I mean, look, lawmakers on both sides want to get home for the for the recess, for the holiday, I think. They know the votes are there for the Republicans. They know President Trump is on the verge of getting this big, beautiful bill, really a tax cut. border enforcement funding legislation.

It's just about to get over the finish line, and President Trump is going to get in Iowa to celebrate today.

So this is a big moment. I think the the speechifying and the filibustering only obscures so much. And this is one of the big legislative accomplishments For the Trump administration. We'll see what the political impact is in the long term. But this has been something that the President's been talking about since he was first inaugurated.

And it's these margins in the House has never been easy, but between his kind of bully pulpit and lobbying recalcitrant Republicans and Mike Johnson's legislative tactics and then the Senate too, getting the fifty I guess the bare fifty votes with J.D. Vance breaking that tie, a big accomplishment. It's going to be one of the big, big accomplishments in that second term. Speaker Jeffries will say that he is Spartacus. Will he have an I am Spartacus moment today?

You know, I don't think he's quite at that Corey Booker level. He's not quite that self-absorbed. Perhaps. But look, I mean look the Democrats are trying I mean they they they're in the minority, right? They don't have any power.

They've been Rolled over by the White House. And the President has been, and the Republicans, frankly, have been kind of rubbing it in.

So this is their moment to have the stage. They are trying to rally the base. The base does seem energized. The progressives especially in the party seem energized. But in terms of what they can actually do to stop this, it looks like The Republicans are there.

The Republican lists are there, and even some of the more critical lawmakers who have spoken out against parts of the bill are ultimately coming to vote for it. Yeah, I think the Democrats learned, Josh, this morning. And those just tuning in, it's Josh Crash Hour on the Brian Kilmeet Show. Josh is Fox News Radio's political analyst, and he is the editor-in-chief of Jewish Insider. Follow him on his social media platforms at Josh Crash Hour.

Josh, the Democrats learned, and America learned at 3:30 a.m. this morning when that lengthy procedural vote, they had to hold the vote open for about six hours, but they got there. They got there with a vote of 219 to 213. The Democrats are giving them nothing, no votes. It's got to be done with only Republicans.

I guess two might peel off, and this could turn out to be like a 219, 217 rather, to 215-ish, which doesn't matter. It just can't be 216 to 216, because then in the House, it's not like the Senate. You lose. A tie is a loss.

So I believe you, and I believe the procedural vote told us what we needed to know. The votes are there. This will pass. It will not allow the tax cuts and the Jobs Act to expire. It will not allow for the largest tax increase in American history.

This is a big day, isn't it, Josh? Yeah, big accomplishment and it and it also shows the Yeah. That Trump has in sort of muffling over the Freedom Caucus Republicans, who probably were the most vocal in terms of concerns over what didn't cut enough and And there were certain you know, every Republican president that had to deal with the right flank, and they had an unusually vocal criticism in the run-up to this legislation. coming close to the finish line. But the difference is Trump.

And Trump is is is got so much political capital in these deep red districts. That ultimately, when the these conservative constituents have to decide between backing the president or backing you know, backing uh you know, whatever whatever issue they've been trying to They're gonna fall in line, except maybe unless you're Thomas Matthew of Kentucky who's been the one that makes it decision. notebook.

So, you know, that is that is that is the calculus and it's been a testament of Trump being able to control the party and get people to fall in line even if they're not 100% on the or whatever detail. Of the politics. Yeah, Josh, maybe your phone went on speaker in the car or something like that, but it just the audio definitely did change. But if there's something on your end that you want to address, but we can hear you and we're proceeding. I just want to let you know that the audio did change a moment ago, just a few seconds ago.

But I got to get your take on this, Josh. Because the Supreme Court, it appeared to me, I'm a lay person, I'm not an officer of the court, but it appeared to me they made a completely unambiguous decision that U. S. District Court judges were not to make decisions Like they were a national judge that could put these injunctions that would affect an entire nation and that they should focus more in the district that they serve.

Well, I guess much like when President Biden didn't seem to want to listen to judges tell him that you can't keep forgiving these student loans for some, and then others, no, you're not allowed to do that, stop it. But they kept finding ways to keep doing it. As you know, we have a U.S. district judge that has made a decision to block the Trump asylum ban at the southern border. Let's take a listen and then we'll come right back to Josh.

Eric Catuani. I think this judge may not have gotten the memo. And look, you're right. This United States Supreme Court said nationwide injunctions are a thing of the past. Judges have to act within their lanes.

They can't get too far out over their skis in granting broad relief. But this decision is pretty striking. It's an 130-page written opinion that grants vast, broad relief to people trying to get asylum at the southern border. He enjoined, or at least temporarily, put a halt to President Trump's program, which frankly was very similar to what President Biden had in place. It went further than Biden's, it was stronger than Biden's, but this judge nonetheless said it went too far.

And Tom Dupree continues: Eric, cut 21. The administration is going to fight this. They're going to take this up to the Court of Appeals that sits over this judge, that's the D.C. Circuit. And if they don't win there, they're going to take it to the United States Supreme Court.

I think they're going to make a couple arguments. I think one, they're going to say that this judge underestimated President Trump's power to administer and enforce the immigration laws and secure the border. And the second argument I think they're going to make is the point we were discussing a minute ago: that this decision does seem to be a bit contrary to what the United States Supreme Court said just last week when it said, hey, no more of these nationwide injunctions. See, I'm with Tom Dupree. That's my take on it.

Josh Crash Hour, your thoughts. Is Tom right? Yeah, look, Tom is a legal expert. You're going to see a lot of the political front, you're going to see a lot of these battles continuing between kind of the role of the judiciary and as a check and just how far some of these circuit court judges can go. I think the Supreme Court, you know.

Amy Coney Barrett being the author of that majority opinion really licks meat on the bones in kind of preventing these loan judges from blocking executive actions. But there's still plenty of ways, and you're still seeing the checks and balances in action uh in many other uh arenas including you mentioned the student loan arena But you're going to see this on immigration enforcement. You're going to see this when it comes to border security funding. A lot of other fronts are going to be hotspots in the months to come.

So this isn't over. It's just, I think, the beginning chapter of the battle between the executive branch and the judiciary branch. Josh, do you think because of the way, and they appear to be just Democrat activists wearing robes, but the way that, and they've shopped what, in 40 of the Trump shutdowns, they've gone to the same five judges, basically.

So they're judge shopping on top of everything else.

So, you know, California and the usual suspects. Do you think this will require Completely altering What a U.S. District Court judge can do. Yeah, maybe on the edges, but I think we've seen this throughout administrations from both parties. In fact, it was a Texas judge that tried to kind of limit abortion or abortion pill reproductive rights access on his own and trying to undermine the Biden administration.

You know, sometimes when it's on your side, you kind of like the result, but it creates a sense of chaos, I think. But, Josh, I will give you, let's have a split decision here, barely. I will give you what you just said. It's a fair comment, but I think we will both agree it's happened at a level with Trump never before seen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, I I think it certainly has Both sides have been kind of converted.

Pressing the envelope. Trump has certainly tried to expand executive power, and the judiciary has been, especially these liberal judges, have been trying to push back. I thought the Barrett opinion really kind of set some appropriate ground rules and guardrails. But but the the fight is going to continue on.

Well, I think it's so bad that something you almost never see, as you know, the Supreme Court, there's a level of collegiality where I can't remember, and tell me if you can remember, the last time, if ever, that one Associate Justice would do a takedown of another the way that Amy Coney Barrett did to Katanji Brown Jackson. I've not seen anything like that. That was amazing, actually. And it's remarkable because there were a lot of folks on the on the right who were worried that Amy Coney Barrett might be becoming more liberal or might be being too not being immune to some of the arguments on on the liberal side of the the aisle in the court. Clearly, like the collegiality that you often take for granted, not necessarily there.

She really was really, really direct and a little irked by Justice Katanji Brown Jackson's dissent in that case.

So, yeah, I think you see the six-three divides in a lot of these rulings from the Supreme Court, but I think there's also a personal divide that may also be emerging. The collegiality that often was there on the court, the divides we see in politics, the divides we see in our everyday life affects the court as well. I agree, but it's a new norm that I had not ever seen before. Two-minute drill, got to get your take on this. Zoran Mamdani, is it more likely or less likely?

That he will be the next mayor of New York City, that a socialist, self-proclaimed, but actually a communist, I believe. And there is a distinction with a difference on that. But they always say they're something lighter than what they are. Is it more or less likely that he is New York's next mayor, New York City?

Well, look, I think it's it's it's likely that he's the next mayor as a Democratic nominee in a heavily Democratic city. That said, I would say it's I would say it's more likely than it was last week that he won't he he's going to have a little more challenges than expected in in becoming the the general election victor. I mean, Eric Ad I think it really depends whether Eric Adams, who's the current mayor, is able to essentially the the lead Candidate to stop socialism. Essentially, inside about Eric Adams, it's a referendum on stopping socialism. Even, you know, you mentioned, you know, I think Mamdani recently said he wants the guy to control the means of production, which is rhetoric from the Soviet Union, right?

Exactly. There's a lot of stuff Adams has to work with. The challenge is, you also have other candidates on the ballot. You've got Curtis Leewood, who's the Republican nominee. We don't know what Andrew Cuomo is going to do.

So there's a wildcard at how many people in the anti-Montani bracket is going to work. I would say this, and I like Curtis a lot, he's a friend. He Eric Adams can handle criminals. Curtis Lewa being in the race. Two of the same can't beat one of the same.

My friend Ollie North taught me that years ago in the Commonwealth of Virginia, where he would have been a senator, but. Marshall Coleman jumped in, two of the same, couldn't beat one of the same, and Chuck Robb got another six years. In New York City, if Cuomo stays in. and atoms I don't see how Ma'am Donnie could lose. Yeah, the Como is going to be on the ballot.

The question is: does he run a campaign? Is he campaigning? Yeah. So uh you The other parallel I can think of in my time covering politics, Joe Lieberman, you know, in 2006, losing the primary to Med Lamont was seen as a really radical progressive at the time.

Now, he seems as a governor, he seems quite moderate compared to this guy. Even more recent, Lisa Murkowski lost and then she won a write-in, I think it was. That's even more fantastical. Really quickly, Harry, the question is: Does Chuck Schumer, does Hakeem Jeffries, does the governor, Kathy Hochl, do they endorse? They have not endorsed McCray yet.

That's correct.

So I think the big question is: do Democrats coalesce behind this socialist, very far-left radical candidate, or do they withhold their endorsement and allow Democrats to vote for Adams and maybe give Adams a chance? That's the most important point made in the interview on that topic, and we have to go. We're at a hard break. But. They haven't endorsed yet, and I don't believe they want Mandami to be the face of the Democrat Party.

I think that means they can't endorse him. I think you're right, and I think they're caught between a rock and a hard place. And if they don't endorse the Democratic nominee, that may mean a lot of Democratic votes go to Eric Adams. And Hakeem Jeffries also did not endorse Mamdoni Josh. And it tells you all you need to know about how to get six.

And he's still talking, by the way. The magic minute, he's still talking. Hour number six. Josh, it is always great to present you. Thank you, sir.

Thanks, Harry. Happy July 4th. You too. Happy 4th. Fox News Radio political analyst Josh Crashauer on The Brian Kilmead Show.

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The University of Pennsylvania has settled, they've agreed to settle the issue with the federal government, the Leah Thomas, but it actually goes beyond that. I believe that Riley Gaines said it best of all just the other night on the Ingram Angle on the Fox News channel. Eric cut 16. Of course, I'm grateful for Secretary McMahon, for President Trump, for even Attorney General Bondi. She's been fantastic at the Department of Justice on this issue, is an understatement.

I feel vindicated. I feel like pigs are flying. I feel like hell has frozen over.

So it is a fantastic day, of course, for sanity, for common sense, but I think more broadly for women, for humanity, for the little girl that I'm growing inside of me right now that I will welcome to the world in just a few weeks. I think of her, I think of her future. That is what Donald Trump and, of course, Secretary McMahon and myself, that is what we are fighting for.

So very, very excited about today's news.

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So impressive.

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Download and listen at foxnewspodcast.com or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast. The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmead. Welcome back to the Brian Kilmead Show on the day before our Independence Day with Allison Pete and Eric. My name is Harry Hurley.

It's an honor to fill in for the great Brian Kilmead. We are joined on the Brian Kilmead Show Newsmaker hotline by the 56th. Two-term governor of the state of New Jersey, my governor. Governor Phil Murphy, who was the first Democrat since 1977 to win reelection to a second term as Governor of New Jersey. Governor Murphy has also served as chairman of the National Governors Association, and before that, as a United States Ambassador.

That's just a quick little sketch of Governor Murphy's biography. We welcome to the Brian Killmeat Show my good friend Governor Phil Murphy. Governor, welcome. Harry, thank you so much for having me. It's an honor to be with you, particularly on the 4th of July weekend.

Without a doubt, happy birthday, America. Amen. Let's talk about July 4th weekend. I've been receiving comments from guest listeners of the Brian Kilmeet Show. The Atlantic City Expressway is already in this hour like a parking lot, meaning the traffic is very, very vigorous.

Atlantic City, as you know, number one in terms of tourism in the state of New Jersey. Cape May, number two, looks like weather-wise and all other economics, like a very, very big weekend for the state of New Jersey. Amen. In particular, as you rightfully point out for the Jersey Shore, I'm up at Island Beach State Park right now in Ocean County. It's packed.

So the shore is alive. The weather is going to be great. We're also hosting one of the biggest soccer tournaments on the planet. And we've got a huge game at MetLife on Saturday afternoon between Real Madrid and Berussia Dortmund, two of the storied European powers. And we'll have seventy or seventy five thousand folks at that game.

So up and down the state, it feels like a banner of Fourth of July. How does that make you feel as governor the number one sport in the world? That's not easy for me to say that because I want to say it's football, but I think it is soccer around the world that you have this level in the state of New Jersey playing. Yes, it's pretty incredible and a great honor.

So this is the first ever global Club World Cup, thirty-two of the best club teams in the world. New Jersey has one quarterfinal, as I mentioned, on Saturday, both semis and the final next week. which is a huge deal. And this is the appetizer, Harry. You and I have talked about this to the World Cup next year, where New Jersey will have eight matches, including what will be the most watched event in human history, the World Cup final on july nineteenth, twenty twenty six.

You combine that with America's two hundred fiftieth. Philadelphia and our friends in South Jersey will be thrilled to have a bunch of games there as well. It's a great a great couple of years for Jersey for sure.

Something I know is important to you is meeting the constitutional. Deadline, the requirement of a balanced budget to not let it go into July to get it done on time. You now can say for your entire two terms, eight budgets, that you did it. Tell us about the fiscal year 2026 budget. Should we like it?

Should we not like it? Are we taking it with a spoonful of sugar? What are your thoughts? It's a great question, and I am very proud working with the legislature. We never had to clock over into July and shut the state down, which has happened unfortunately in the past on both sides of the aisle.

And that did not happen. For any of our budgets, I think folks should feel very good about it, but recognizing that no budget is perfect. Even I don't think it's perfect. But we committed from day one to a stronger, fairer, and more responsible New Jersey, meaning grow the economy. shrink the inequities and be a state that folks could trust again, whether you were a rating agency, a labor union, a counterpart, a neighbor or a company.

And I think we've come a long way on all of those metrics. Again, no budget is perfect. But this one is one that I think we can be proud of, and it addresses all three of those sort of objectives, and I think it does it in a balanced way. a big dose of affordability.

So property tax relief. Fully funding public schools. meeting all of our obligations, including our pension full pension plan payment for the fifth year in a row.

So I think folks should feel good about it, but recognize that, as they say, no budget is perfect. If you could have run for a third term, would you have run for a third term? I don't think so, and that's not because I don't love the job, because I do love it. incredible honor and responsibility of my lifetime.

So that's not the reason. I'm a believer in term limits. I think there comes a time when when you need to hand the keys over. Uh and we're having a very spirited, as you well know, and and Harry and I go way back and stay in close touch, and we've talked about it. Very spirited campaign to succeed me.

I think that's what it should be. I think eight years. I think four is not enough. Virginia's got a one-term limit. I'm not a fan of that.

No, me either. Yeah, I don't like that. And I don't like unlimited, but I think two-term limit, which is what the President has. That feels right to me.

So I love the job. That's not the question. But I do think there's a moment in time where you step aside.

So here's something you do know: that you have six months left in the office, likely forever, because you could, if you decided someday, I think a person in New Jersey can come back after sitting out. I'm not saying that I'm not trying to make news here and say that you've got a plan to do that, but that is something you could do. That's why I agree with you on the Virginia, the Commonwealth of Virginia. You serve one term, you have to leave. It became like musical chairs, then you become a congressman or the senator, then you run again for governor in non-consecutive terms, like Terry McAuliffe, who you know came very close to doing until the education issue.

Came up and Glenn Young, and you know, he was Terry McCullough was going to win that race.

So I agree with what you said relative to that one term. That doesn't, it's not enough time. You almost just get started, and you know exactly what you're doing and what you want to do, and you have to leave. Yes, that's exactly right. You almost are a de facto lame duck this the day you put your hand on the Bible.

And that's not to say that Governor Youncin or Governor McAuliffe before him or Governor Northam haven't done a lot for the Commonwealth of Virginia. They have but it's too short a runway for my taste.

So we know you have six months. left in your second term What do you hope to accomplish?

Well, the one thing that encompasses everything we're doing is I want everybody to know that we're sprinting through the tape, that we're not putting our feet up. literally today, Fourth of July, I'm working my tail off today. And I'm not looking for anyone to pat me on the back, but I want the taxpayers out there, the residents, to know that we're not taking our foot off the gas. And I think more specifically, Harry, it's a lot more of the same. Pushing to grow the economy, create jobs.

I'll do a couple of economic missions. New Jersey sells really well internationally.

So we're going to go to India, Mexico. I hope to get back to Israel. We were just in the Gulf states.

So that'll be a big economic push. We're in the process of attracting A bunch of companies to come in and consolidate their operations into New Jersey. We've got a big focus on the startup economy. We've got a unique one-of-a-kind clemency initiative. that we've been parsing through that I'm incredibly proud of that we'll continue to address and whether it's pardoning folks or commuting sentences in a responsible way.

again, focused on equity. A lot of what we've been doing, but more of it with a very high level of intensity. I think that's what folks can expect. Governor, I think I've asked you this before, but I don't believe on the Brian Kilmeat Show. And those just tuning in, it's Governor Phil Murphy of the Great Garden State visiting on the Brian Kilmeat Show.

The beautiful sign Trenton makes, the world takes, like a Almost sounds like a cliché, a historical slogan, but it really does represent that Trenton, New Jersey had a past as a major industrial center. Is that still applicable, or is that history never to be achieved, realized again? Yes, it is still very much applicable, but in a different dimension, Harry. And I hope Trenton can participate specifically, but I know New Jersey can generally.

So I I've said this a lot. I'll I'll probably die trying to make cars, trucks and chemicals again in New Jersey, which were once big industries, but I think those are in the rearview mirror. What is not in the rearview mirror and where we dominate Is in the innovation economy, including in manufacturing within the innovation economy.

So we've got one of the absolute fastest rising hyperscalers in artificial intelligence. Headquartered in New Jersey. We've got some of the big pharmaceuticals and life science companies in the world here, Tech. Telecom.

So we still make a lot of stuff, but we make, you know, when you think of pharmaceutical manufacturing, It's not the metal bending. that that at least I associate traditionally what with what it manufacturing looks like. Again, cars, trucks, heavy equipment. New Jersey dominates in that innovation economy, including manufacturing within that space, and that's been a big focus of ours. I often call Brian Kilmead America's historian because he is just so.

Good at it. This slogan, thank you, Governor, for saying that. This slogan goes back to 1935 on the Lower Trenton Bridge for those historians in the Brian Kilmead show, just to give you an idea. And I think they flipped the order for promotional purposes. It was the world takes, Trenton makes.

It became Trenton makes the world takes. But I appreciate you entertaining that. This also is very important: Jersey Shore projects, because the Jersey Shore, as you know, and you've not neglected the Jersey Shore, which is something that I can intellectually say and point that out. What can you say relative to Jersey Shore projects, Governor? Listen, the shore and South Jersey, which are not the same, but they have a big overlap.

have been obsessions of ours from day one. The shore economy is plus or minus a fifty billion dollar economy for New Jersey. You mentioned in a time of global anxiety, arguably national anxiety. you're seeing a trend of folks staying closer to home. And we're seeing that right now.

And then South Jersey, which encompasses obviously a good chunk of the shore and then obviously the inland counties. has been a huge obsession of ours. Separately, Atlantic City, which you know better than anybody, having Atlantic City thriving again has been a huge obsession of ours.

So these are, I don't want anyone ever to say that Murphy was a North Jersey governor or Central Jersey governor. I want folks to say, no matter where, whether they like what we've done or not, that this guy cared about the entirety of the state equally. And by the way, this is a shout out to Brian in Absentia. there were more revolutionary battles fought in New Jersey than in any other state. And that's one of the projects we're working intensely on.

We mentioned the World Cup earlier, which is next year. But the two hundred fiftieth birthday of America is next year. And when we walk out of here in January, I want both of those set up in a really good shape so that New Jersey can celebrate to its fullest extent. Two-minute drill, it's flown by, I knew it would. Two-minute drill with New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy live on the Brian Kilmeat Show.

Governor, this is something that I believe is just a dying art in our country. We're not better off for it, in my view. You'll tell me your thoughts in just a moment as I tee this up for you to respond to. You have demonstrated your willingness to work with the opposite political party. That is almost absent in our country at all levels, local, county, state, federal.

It is almost gone. I almost want to say, can you tell me why? But that's an unfair question. I don't, because you don't practice it. You will work with the other side.

You will do business with the other side. If something makes sense and a Republican makes their case, you're not opposed to it because you're a Republican. You will actually, in good faith, work with the other side. Why did this die a horrible death? And why do you not practice it?

on the former, I I can't tell you for sure, Harry, but it's been unraveling for a long time. I think you measure it in decades, and I think we're at a nader right now, and I think it's a huge shame and a staying in our country. And you and I are a good example of this. You and I are in different parties We see things a lot of things differently, but we also each of us have striven to find common ground. And we've got even if we can't find the common ground, a very close personal relationship.

Um I I Cherish the moments when I can reach across the aisle, whether it's Michael Testa in South Jersey, Joe Panaccio up north, who was with John Bramnick the other day. These are three outstanding Republican senators in our state legislature. And by the way, with apologies, just I want to say also my good friend and my senator, Vince Paulestina. Vince Paulestina is a great example where we've done a lot together. And I think that's a badge of honor for both sides of the aisle.

And I would just pray for our country that we see more of that and not less of it. Because isn't the idea to get things done on behalf of the people? You take an oath of office. You don't take an oath of office that every good idea that comes from the other side is to be ignored. And we even see it so parochial, Governor, and so bad that even things that one side used to agree with, they are against it the next time.

Final comment, Governor. Yes. I mean, yes, a shame. I'll give you one quick example. Michael Testa took the lead on a huge manufacturing incentive package.

In a world of tariffs, we think there's an opportunity to onshore manufacturing into Jersey for multinationals. Michael took the lead on that and worked with our office And it's going to be a huge success for New Jersey. And it won't be a Democratic success or a Republican success. It'll be a Jersey success, and that's the way it should be. Governor Murphy, looking forward to running through the finish line with you because when you succeed, we all succeed.

Amen, Harry. Thank you. And please give Brian and the team my best. And I will, and you just did, Governor Murphy. Thank you, sir.

And happy birthday, Harry. You know it, sir. Governor Phil Murphy on the day before America's Independence Day. We'll be right back. Promise you, it's a busy news day.

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I absolutely, you know, I talk about Brian. He's on my own personal Mount Rushmore in terms of media personalities in our country. And I meant when I said about Brian to Governor Murphy, I wasn't just fishing for a nice comment from Governor Murphy, which he did give Brian because it's earned. Brian is a great historian. And this speaks to some of what I brought up to Governor Murphy at the end of the interview.

How can what I'm about to tell you, how can this be true? A survey That I saw on the Fox News channel yesterday. It was conducted, and they do it every year. It was conducted by Gallup organization. United States adults' pride in being an American.

Under the quotient of extremely proud or at least very proud, in 2005, 83% Of Americans said they were either extremely proud or very proud. That is now 58%. In 2025, it's going to be below a majority. in the not too distant future. Republicans though.

In 2005, 93%. In 2025, 92%. No change. This is the Brian Kim Read Shout. It's Will Kane Country.

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Welcome to the Brian Kilmead Show with Allison, Pete, and Eric. My name is Harry Hurley. Filling in today for the great Brian Kilmead. Who will be back very, very soon, so do not worry. It is my pleasure to welcome, and she is right now on.

The Brian Kilmey Show Newsmaker Hotline, one of our very, very significant members of the People's House, the United States Congress. The gentlelady from South Carolina's first Congressional District, a member of the Oversight and Armed Services Committees, Congresswoman Nancy Mace. Congresswoman, welcome to Brian's program. Yeah, thank you for having me. Historic day ahead.

I was just going to say, and the magic minute has a new meaning now, doesn't it, Congresswoman Mace? Yes, I'm sort of up this morning. Good morning to everyone except for Hakeem Jeffries. He is off the rails today, very emotional, not backed up by facts, of course, and lying to the American people. You know, it's a shame.

I mean, I I kinda like the concept. It's not a rule, I don't think. I think it's like an informal accommodation, the magic minute. And it shows respect. The the minority party is an opportunity if you know they think they have something really important to say.

I I'm not a betting man, Congresswoman, but I Knew it when he started that he would not finish in 45 minutes. He would not finish in 60 minutes. But I have to admit, he started at before 5 a.m. this morning. The fact that he is still going now, I think it's outrageous.

I think it's disrespectful to every member of the People's House. I think it's disrespectful to the entire country. I think it's a disgrace. It's all about ego right now for him. It is disrespectful because this bill is about cutting taxes for the middle class, for the working class.

This is about making sure that we have no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security. You can't say you're for the working class like Democrats always do, and then yet hold up this bill because it's not yours and you hate Donald Trump so much. And he is doing, this is a slap in the face to the American people. It's a disservice to the country. And it's all about his ego right now, nothing else.

Is there any like behind the scenes knowledge of like is he going to stop any time soon? Is he going to try to do a Cory Booker Spartacus moment? I mean, is he not going to stop? We've been getting text messages from leadership every hour that, hey, within the next forty five minutes, we're going to be voting on the bill. Hakeem will stop the magic minute.

But at this point, at eleven oh eight a.m. Eastern time, If he speaks for another two hours and twenty one minutes, he will break the record for the longest magic minute in congressional history in the U. S. House of Representatives. And I think that's what he's going for today.

You know what I find interesting about him as well is I've never seen someone, Corey Booker, I think, is his rival that can talk so much. And say so little, and so much of it is wrong. Let me give you an example. I think it's a disgrace that he acts. You know, look, you know, the other side wants to win.

They want to win the midterm elections. They want the majority.

So I get that, and you get that. But he says things like that if this bill passes, people are going to die, be killed, is the language he used. That crosses the Rubicon, Congresswoman Mace. It does. And honestly, that kind of rhetoric only breeds violence in this country.

And the Democrat Party is now the party of violence. They hate women. And we're watching him today try to use big words and admit he can't spell the big words. I've never seen anything like this. What I do know is you don't bet against Donald Trump.

He is the most popular president in American history. He is delivering tax relief for waitresses, truckers, and seniors. for the working class. And our role in Congress is to is we have a duty to protect our borders and protect our people. And that's what we're doing today, but it's being stalled by weakness.

It's being stalled by those who have no spine. It's being stalled by the Democrat Party. And no tax on tips. It's in there. No tax on overtime.

I mean, there's so many I think the American people, this is refreshing, Congresswoman Mace, because they're so used to candidates saying, Please elect me and I will do this, this, this and this, and they do the opposite. You all said what you were going to do, and you're actually doing it. Actually, doing it. And this is, you know, leadership isn't about comfort, it's about courage. Having the courage to deliver on your promises.

And anyone who's trying to delay at a moment like this is indistinguishable from surrender. Like, this is for the American people, by the American people, for the American people, and we must deliver now. You are listening to United States Congresswoman Nancy Mace from South Carolina live on the Brian Kilmead show on the day before America's Independence Day, the day before President Trump asked the United States Congress, both houses, to get it together, to pass the same bill, put it on my desk before so I can sign it on the 4th of July. And Hakeem Jeffries, he's going to talk and talk and talk and talk, but President Trump will sign that bill on America's birthday tomorrow, won't he? Hakeem Jeffries is going to talk.

Donald Trump is going to deliver. And we're hearing that he's going to sign it into law tomorrow. And it'll be great for the American people by lowering taxes, making permanent tax cuts for the middle class, making sure that we continue to secure the border, hire more Border Patrol agents, hire more ICE agents, make sure that we have the best military defenses in the world, and Donald Trump will do that. With one big, beautiful bill and the consequences that I don't think you can overstate because obviously the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, I mean, imagine the largest tax increase in the history of the world, not just America, is at stake if this doesn't pass.

So it couldn't be more important. But indulge me, and I'm a fan, so this is not an antagonistic question. I just have to ask it because I have the opportunity on the Brian Killmeat Show to ask Congresswoman Mace, what was up with the new formal wear attire that you modeled on the Fox News channel? Come on, tell us what's going on.

Well, my drive, my 12-hour drive to D.C., all my flights got canceled. I can confirm I am a normal mom. I can confirm I breathe air and that I wear pajamas. And we had a 12-hour, my staff came, we made light of it. It was a long night.

I've been up straight two nights in a row now. But I'm willing to do that and make those sacrifices because it's part of the job. It's what I signed up for, serving the American people, even if it means we drive twelve hours through the night, through the rain, through storms to get here to vote for the one big, beautiful bill. And we had fun doing it and wanted to share that experience with others. See, there's so many fake phonies and frauds.

I have to say, that's not fake phony and fraud. That's real. You just knew that cameras are always rolling. It's not like you were hiding in your pajamas. You were out in your pajamas.

In my car for 12 hours in a van, but you know, of course, when I got to the hill, I got to the Capitol. I suited up like what is appropriate and for decorum. I wore a suit yesterday for my official duties for my work. The one thing that Democrats were lying about online was that I showed up to work in my pajamas. And it was like, no, here I am in my business suit right after I'd been up all night for 12 hours.

We did take a spin through a Waffle House in Virginia outside of Richmond, and that was a lot of fun because I got to talk to the waiters and waitresses of Waffle House. They wanted to know about the no-tax on tips. And we had a great time seeing Middle America, seeing real people that are going to have real benefits from the One Big Beautiful Bill. You will always know, Congresswoman Mace, you did something. You were part of something.

There's corny slogans bigger than yourself and all that and all, but this is real. If you go from, and I was a former hotel executive for President Trump, I know, I know what front services people and restaurant people and Any classification that your wage is very low and your tips are where you survive and provide for your family. This is a life-I know this sounds cornball, but it's not. This is a life-changing moment when the American people that are in tip classification positions are no longer paying taxes. And it's within a very reasonable, it's means tested, but it's within a very healthy amount of money that you can earn without taxes.

That is life-changing.

Well, it's up to $25,000 that you're not going to be taxed on tips. I mean, it's real money. It's going to make a real difference. And when I was meeting with people on my 12-hour drive from Charleston, South Carolina to D.C. at all of our stops, I mean, people are excited about this.

They want this more than anything ever. And it's just incredible to be a part of making history. And it is worth staying up late. It's worth the headache, the hassle, the long hours. This is what we signed up for.

This is the job, and we are delivering. Talk about the first six months of this session of the House of Representatives, which obviously coincides with the first six months of President Trump's second term. What a consequential six months this has been. Consequential and historic because he has done he's the first president in my lifetime that I know who has done everything he said he was going to do. He has delivered on his promises, he's delivered the truth, he has Help the American people in ways that will last a lifetime and generations to come.

He is that president. And what I have seen from the left is that they are willing to burn our country down just because they have Trump derangement syndrome, just because they don't like one guy. They're willing to. Lose it all. They're willing to put other countries ahead of ours.

They're willing to put illegal immigrants ahead of real American citizens who came here legally and immigrated. I mean, it's just outrageous what I've seen, but what I've seen is great hope for the future. I've seen a massive opportunity, and we are literally watching in real time Donald J. Trump deliver for the American people. Congresswoman Nancy Mace, we've got about three minutes.

We're going to make it count. Congresswoman Mace, in terms of what do you do for an encore, this is huge, but there's obviously still much more. There's always much more to do when you're in the people's house and working on behalf of the American people. What's next? Help.

Well, I think what stocks is some of our appropriations bills, some of the wrongs that we need to right after this bill can be done in appropriations. We also have an opportunity to do more reconciliation packages or reconciliation bills. I also hope that the Senate will address the parliamentarian over there. And I know it's not tradition to override the parliamentarian, but the Senate has every right to do so. I mean, if there's a dollar sign next to a number in a reconciliation bill, it has to do with the budget.

It has to do with spending and revenue and deficit and debt and all of that. And so we've got to make sure that we continue to deliver for the president, put his priorities first. And that we deliver for the American people, continue to deliver for the American people by delivering for Donald Trump. Two-minute drill, that's a very important point. Two-minute drill with Congresswoman Nancy Mace from South Carolina, member of the Oversight and Armed Services Committees of what I call the People's House.

And that's two very, very significant committees talking about armed services. Could you be more proud of the greatest military in the history of the world? And of course, the Democrats couldn't just for one day say thank you. They didn't even know that we hit them, and nobody got hurt. They hit exactly where they were going to hit with the 30,000-pound bunker buster bombs and B-2 precision of both male and female aviators.

Not even for one moment, Congresswoman Mace, will the Democrats say, great job, thank you for what you do every day. It's disgusting to me. thank you, Donald Trump, from saving the world from Iran getting a nuclear weapon because they were very close to having that happen. And they couldn't even thank our men and women in uniform, our military that guards our freedom with their life. Democrats couldn't even say thank you.

And it was eye-opening. They were upset over a parade. I can tell you, as an Army brat, growing up on military bases, the pride that we felt as a family because our father, or in some cases, someone's mother was serving their country valiantly, risking their life, risking life and limb for all of us. And the great pride that we should have in our military, that's lost on the left. If you would on the Brian Killmeat show, Congresswoman Mace in about 30 seconds or so, would you share a closing comment on minority leader Hakeem Jeffries and his magic minute that will not end?

Well, I think it's interesting today. He was using big words, but admits he couldn't spell. And the only reason that he's doing this today is because of his ego. He is not putting the American people first, he's putting them last. And I hope that we will continue to give Hakeem Jeffries the biggest megaphone alive because all he's doing is forcing Democrats to flee the party of violence and come over to the Republican side where we care about women, we care about kids, we care about safe communities.

And we're doing that under Donald Trump. Congresswoman Mays, are you proud to be able to cast a vote on the one big beautiful bill? Never been more proud to be an American than right now. Great to visit with you, Congresswoman. Thank you so much, and God bless.

You too. We'll be right back. This is the Brian Kilmead Show. Diving deep into today's top stories. It's Brian Kilmead.

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I want to remind everybody that July 4th It's f Cancelled. The 4th of July. if I hear a single fing firework. If I see a fing barbecue out there. It is canceled.

We are expected to celebrate freedom when the truth is we are far from free, and our taxes pay for it. Honestly. Think about it. Do you really believe you'll feel good this year standing there looking up at fireworks, pretending everything is okay? Instead, we reclaim the day with solidarity and silence.

Thank you, Brian Kilmeet Show, intern Emily. That's an Emily work product there. And it really is perfect. It is in a few seconds a case study.

Now, notice. Half of the country didn't want Joe Biden to ever be president, and we were right. But forget that comment for a second. We didn't, we love America. We're proud of America.

We celebrate America. But the other side. Trump derangement syndrome is no joke. It's not a lie. It's real.

We have had presidents who were not members of any political party. We have had presidents of both major political parties. And in exactly one year, the greatest representative republic in the history of the world will be 250 years young. We should celebrate that. It reminds me, and this started to a bit, if you want to find patient zero, it started with Michelle Obama who said, and I quote, or I nearly quote, it's paraphrase, but it's accurate, that for the first time in my adult life, I'm proud of my country.

That started this language, or Pastor Jeremiah writes: not God bless America, it's God blank America. This hating on America. And they say they say things like the gentleman On the Emily clip said, if you think this is free, you know, this isn't free. Go to North Korea. Go to China.

Go go to Iran. Go to Afghanistan. Tell me, this isn't free. It is the freest nation in the history. Of of recorded history.

of the world. And that is That's That's out there. Emily pulled that clip. Emily, if you said Emily for the next day, just pull clips like that. Anywhere you find them.

TikTok, Facebook. you know, Instagram. Wherever. Formerly Twitter. Why do you have to say that?

So That's not That was not Emily. Presenting a unicorn. Oh my God, where did you find that? That's the only place you ever could have found that. It's every day.

It's Hakeem Jeffries, who won't stop talking. The magic minute man won't stop talking, and he's saying stuff like that. When we come back, Republican nominee for governor of New Jersey. Jack Cettarelli. On the Brian Kilmeat Show.

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From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Kilmead. Welcome back to the Brian Killmead Show with Allison Pete and Eric. I'm Harry Hurley filling in today. for the great frying kill mead on the day before. America's Independence Day.

And this is going to be a big year. President Trump is going to kick it off in Iowa this weekend. This will be a year of celebrations of America turning 250 years old this time next year. Pretty amazing. The greatest country in the world, just 250 years old.

Joining us on the Brian Kilmead Show, Newsmaker Hotline is a very longtime friend of mine, Jack Cedarelli, is a lifelong resident of New Jersey. Jack is a former member of the New Jersey legislature for a number of years. And he did what he always does. Like, he wasn't going to stay forever. And he's run for governor because he wants to be governor.

He doesn't run for governor because he wants to be president. Republican nominee of both 2021 And now 2025, Jack Chitterelli. Losing the race of 2021, despite polling data, which was tremendously. Off kilter, and it seems like, to quote Yogi Berra, deja vu all over again, he lost by about three percentage points. fifty-one percent to forty-eight percent to the Incumbent Governor Phil Murphy.

But somehow the polls are reading really cockamame against. A Democratic nominee that very few people in the entire state even know who the individual is. And again, Jack Chittarelli is the 2025 Republican nominee for governor and now for an open seat. Last time. Jack Chittarelli was running against the incumbent governor, Phil Murphy, who we visited with earlier today on the Brian Kilmeet Show.

Candidate Cedarelli, great to welcome you. Hey, Harry, great to be with you, too, and congratulations on filling in for Brian.

Well, he's a great guy, and he has an incredible show, and he's on the Mount Rushmore of talk show hosts in America.

So, you are experiencing this is deja vu. The polls were crazy. I think that led to the Republican National Committee. Like, if we could tell the Republican National Committee, and you did, that hey, these polls are wrong. This is a margin of error race, and that you could win this race against then one-term incoming Governor Phil Murphy.

But these polls were all, you know. way, way off. uh in terms of reality. But that That's not helpful, is it?

Well, it's not, Harry, but we'll just have to overcome it. I mean, shame on Eagledon, by the way, Harry, out of Rutgers. My goodness, last time around at this point in the campaign in twenty one, they had me down by forty points to Phil Murphy. They said Kamala Harris was going to win the state over Donald Trump by twenty plus points. And and here they are with this poll.

Shame on them. But um, listen, I give one I give Mom of University credit. They were so bad with their polling in the 21 race, they decided to get out of the polling business. I think Eagleton should too. Yeah, it's really bad because anybody that's intellectually honest knows that's not even possible.

President Trump lost by six points. You lost in the prior race for governor to the incumbent that everybody knew by three points.

So it's impossible that you could and I'm not shilling for Jack Chettarelli. It's impossible that you are down 20 points. That's just not that's not credible. And in fact, when you do a poll and it doesn't come out right, you shouldn't release it because these types of polls, and you can ask Senator Paulestina of New Jersey, Senator Testa of New Jersey, they know what it's like to actually be winning. But the polls come out and say you're losing.

It was cruel. It happened to Paulestina while voting was actually going on. And of course, he went on to a great victory. But the one thing that's good, though, is you showed last time it isn't just because always the campaign is going to say, oh, no, you should see our internals. No, no, no.

This is no, no, no. You already proved. that the New Jersey polling is really whacked out. But here's the most important poll, Harry, as I go up and down the state, and I know you do follow my travels on social media, everywhere I go, and it is general election season now, I'm not hanging out in comfortable Republican circles. I'm hanging out in towns that are overwhelmingly Democratic.

Last week we were up in Dover in Morris County, and the Democratic mayor there endorsed me. We've spent time in all the counties, and again, in towns, locations where Republicans typically don't go or won't go, hanging out with Democrats, and more and more moderate Democrats are coming up to me and saying, Jack, New Jersey desperately needs change. We're with you this time.

So that's the most important poll to me. By the way, if you go into the tabulars, and I know the candidate, Jack Chettarelli knows this, but to our listeners, if you go into the tabulars, actually on questions that don't associate themselves with how this poll differential came out, the actual 20-point difference, which is not possible, but yet it's what they advertised. Those questions, things like right track, wrong track. If you don't think New Jersey is on the right track, you're at like 76 to 80 some percent on all the key questions, but yet we're supposed to believe you're down by 20. I don't want to.

go too much further on this because to give an outlier poll Quality time, it just further, I think, victimizes a candidate that's already been victimized. But I do want to say this. Please tell me the Republican National Committee understands that we've been here before, and it wasn't right then, and it's not right now. They're doing their own polling, Harry, and what they're seeing is something that's within the margin of error and practically a dead heat.

So but listen, we're we're just going to continue to go out there, grind it out each and every day by shaking hands, pressing the flesh, visiting all twenty one counties at least once or twice within every two week period. And delivering our message. I mean, the Phil Murphy administration has been a total failure across the board when it comes to economics, when it comes to public safety, public education, housing and now energy. We see what's going on with the multi-letter bills. And quite frankly, my opponent has supported all of his policies, not to mention she supports sanctuary cities, us being a sanctuary state.

This is somebody who voted no on the Lake and Riley Act.

Somebody who supported Joe Biden's open border policies, all the fiscal policies that caused everything we buy to be more expensive.

So we're not going to have Murphy 2.0 when this one's all over. We're going to win this race. Jack Chettarelli, the Republican nominee for governor of New Jersey, two-time Republican nominee, came very, very close. That's been the history in New Jersey. Christy Whitman, Jim McGreevy, Jim Florio, that's members of both parties, so this is not a partisan comment.

When they've come close the first time, they have won the second time. And Chettarelli is on that glide path, I believe. The Republican nominee, I want you to take a question from real people. We're going to listen to the audio of real people. Actually, it's not going to be a live question from real people in New Jersey, but real people that have lived with things like no plastic bags allowed when you go check out.

And if you forget bags, you're left schlepping big handfuls of stuff because you can't have a plastic bag, but you can have a paper straw and a plastic wrapper. You just can't have a plastic straw and a paper wrapper.

So on the plastic bags that got under so many people's nerves, including a special list. Of the Brian Kilmeat show that brought it up to me. What would Jack Chettarelli's position be on restoring plastic bags in New Jersey? Let's take a listen, comment on the other side. Eric Cutt 18.

Half the time I have all my bags in the car. That's inconvenient when you don't know if you're gonna stop the shop. Then you gotta buy more bags, which you really don't need because you have some at home. I'll just put my groceries straight in the car without any bag. If I'm just shopping for a few items, I just carry them out.

I think they're losing more money by not utilizing the plastic bags. I, as one New Jersey and one of nine million, I missed the plastic bags. And then a lot of people used them for taking their dogs for a walk and repurpose them.

So they weren't just single use, they were multipurposed. What would Jack Chitterelli do regarding plastic bags in New Jersey? Hey, Aaron, I've said all along on day one, we'll have a different energy master plan, and that includes getting plastic bags back in our supermarket. The data is out. The data is pretty clear.

Those bags that they force us to buy in place of the plastic bags have a greater carbon footprint than the plastic bags. I mean, this is what I call the feel-good legislation of the Murphy administration that really accomplishes nothing and throw the wind farms in there, too. That's been a giant waste of taxpayer money and time. And look where we are today with the energy shortage because this guy put a moratorium on natural gas. He didn't increase the carbon the nuclear footprint of electricity generation in South Jersey.

So we're going to get back to a rational energy plan, and that includes getting back our plastic bags and our plastic straws in New Jersey, Harry. You are listening to Jack Chettarelli, the Republican nominee for governor of New Jersey. Obviously, there is early voting, there is vote by mail. General Election Day itself is on November 4th. I know I need not remind you this, but I want the listeners of the Brian Kilmead show to know you won.

the last gubernatorial election on Election Day. You lost the election with the early vote and the vote by mail. I've been saying for a number of years that Republicans need to fix that in New Jersey. Has it been fixed? I believe it has, Harry.

I mean, we have a great many Republicans still a bit resistant about the mail, but we're making it up on the nine days of early voting. In fact, last November, when Trump came so close to New Jersey, it was the first time ever more Republicans had taken part in early voting than Democrats.

So they're still beating us through the mail. We're beating them in the early voting, which brings us into Election Day a dead heat. I like our position. Jack Chettarelli, in terms of, and for those who don't know, but if they follow you at Jack, the number 4NJ, at Jack4NJ, and you can stay close to all things, Jack Chettarelli for governor of New Jersey, I know this because I've seen you out there. You have hit more diners, more real places where real people are than almost any candidate that I've ever seen.

And you know, over 21 counties, how incredibly diverse the state of New Jersey is. And I don't just mean that in terms of diversity, like some people use that word in comments. I mean, it could be rolling hills. It could be flatland. I mean, it's such a diverse state.

It's unbelievable. It's a great state, obviously densely populated. But what are people saying to you when you are out there out and about? What do New Jerseyans want from their next governor, from their state government? When I talk with seniors, Harry, they're very, very fearful of being able being able to live their years out here in New Jersey because of property taxes.

I tell them we're going to fix that by making all retirement income tax-free, just like they do in Pennsylvania, and we'll freeze property taxes for life once they hit age seventy. When you talk to people along the Jersey shore, they do not want those wind farms. And under Governor Chitterelli, we won't have them. On the interior, our rural suburbs, very concerned about overdevelopment. We're taking garden right out of Garden State with this Mount Laurel housing doctrine that puts affordable low income housing everywhere.

There's a place for it. Let's put it in the right place, not the wrong place. And of course, people continue to talk about the affordability crisis all throughout New Jersey because our New Jersey citizens and businesses pay the highest taxes in the country. And what did Phil Murphy and the Trenton Democrats just do? Increase taxes and spending again, eighth year in a row, fifty nine billion dollars with over seven hundred million dollars in pet pork projects despite the affordability crisis.

So I'll reduce the size and cost of our state government and cut taxes in turn. When you hear things uh When people tell you, for example, I want to retire, but I can't, or I'm retired, but I now can't stay here, and I have to leave. And we see the outbound migration that we have seen. It's a trajectory you, if I don't want to say when you become governor, that you have to fix because it's not sustainable. If people are here and work their whole lives and then they have to leave once they retire, that's just bad math that we just can't allow that.

And it splits up families and things like that. What could you do differently to change that New Jersey would be a state where people want to move into and not move out of? Harry, you know, you hear all kinds of heartbreaking stories when you're out on the trail, but the most heartbreaking of all is when people say, I can't live out my life in the home in which I raised my family. I got to leave for a place that's got better tax policies, particularly for seniors. Or when you hear seniors say, I got to go get a part-time job to afford my property taxes.

So, a couple of things that we could do. Again, number one, like Pennsylvania, make all retirement income tax-free. Number two, once you hit age 70, property tax is frozen for life. Number three, we need a new school funding formula in New Jersey that provides a more equitable distribution of state aid to schools. And when we do that, we can lower property taxes.

Those are three of the things I could do right out of the box. And of course, just making New Jersey a better place to be a good job. To live, work, retire, raise a family, start a business. I'm determined to do all that and more. That's the New Jersey I knew when I grew up.

That's the New Jersey my parents and grandparents had. Let's get back to that day again. Final minute, and a thought that I also raised with Governor Murphy just a little while ago on today's Brian Kilmead show, where I mentioned he was the first Democrat to win reelection since 1977. No same political party has won three straight gubernatorial elections in New Jersey, and you know these stats, but I want Brian's listeners to understand this since 1965.

So, if you were to not win this race, that would actually make history that we haven't seen in like 60 years. I believe you don't believe that's going to happen, and that New Jersey do swing that pendulum with consistent regularity, don't they?

Well, let's think about what beat us in 21 in that very close race, Harry. Number one, the campaign season was so truncated because of that damn pandemic and a shelter-in-place order. Not easy to campaign when there's a shelter-in-place order. Number two, indifference.

So many people across the nation, and even right here in New Jersey, didn't think a Republican could win. You know, Republicans have won six of the last 11 governor races in the state. We win governor races.

So it was a whole lot less than difference, but the biggest change this time around, party registrations. The difference between the two parties is three hundred thousand better today than it was in twenty twenty one. More and more people are registering Republican. Those all things all those things and my effort, my energy, point toward a victory in November. I wish you a great 4th of July, and it's been an honor to welcome you to the Brian Kilmead Show, Jack.

Harry, thank you. Happy 249th to our great nation.

Next year is going to be a special one when I'm governor. 250 years young. Good to talk to you. Jack Chettarelli, live. On the Brian Kilmead Show.

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A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. Welcome back to the Brian Kilmead Show with Allison Pete and Eric. I'm Harry Hurley filling in today for the great Brian Kilmead Show, wishing everyone a very, very happy and blessed. Fourth of July holiday weekend, let's make it great.

And thank you, Brian. Thank you, Allison. Thank you, Pete. Thank you, Eric, for the privilege of being with you here today. There was a great show, Happy Days, and it's Lexicon.

It's so famous. It's called the Time Where the Show Jumped the Shark. And when Fonzie was in the. Bermuda, you know, baggies and his leather jacket, and he jumped the shark at, um. Arnold's restaurant, Arnold Takahashi.

That was it. The show died. Hakeem Jeffries. May have committed political suicide today. He's still talking, he's talking insanity.

Eric, let's join in in progress. If that bill ever passes. And so we say to the American people, we've been working hard to try to get this bill into a better situation. introducing amendment after amendment. After amendment.

After amendment. Representative Judy Chu. He has been speaking. Think if my fuzzy math is correct. He's in his seventh hour.

And he won't stop. And I don't think this is going to age well. Corey Booker's I Am Spartacus didn't age well. Corey Booker on the steps of the Capitol reading didn't age well. Wow.

What can we say? is have a great holiday weekend. This is the Brian Kilmead Show. Hey, I'm Trey Gowdy, host of the Trey Gaddy Podcast. I hope you will join me every Tuesday and Thursday as we navigate life together and hopefully find ourselves a little bit better on the other side.

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