Dems are in a civil war, and New York's primary results are just the latest proof. The socialists know it, and it's time for the progressives to admit it. The socialists say it's their party, progressives say it's not, but why don't you say it to them? Congressman Mike Lawler joins us now. Congressman, I never expected Akeem Jeffries to lose in those three seats, and I guess two of which he went to bat for.
Nancy Plose went to bat for Dan Goldman. Dan Goldman is as tough on Donald Trump as Jamie Raskin and Adam Schiff.
So please don't tell me that he was too moderate. You know, it's not, he's not Tom Swazi. Who is a moderate? I think I'm a moderate. I think you do too.
So that would be different if he lost to a moderate, I go the party's changed. But this guy has already left. How do you interpret this? Not only your opponent, I'll get to that, but as somebody who knows New York politics. Look, there's no question that the socialists had a very big night.
They picked up three congressional seats and over half a dozen state legislative seats underneath. That's not really been focused on because of the big three. But they are on the march, and Mamdani is leading the charge. And frankly, Jeffries and Schumer look pathetic and weak. And to your point, Brian, Dan Goldman and Adriano Espayat.
Are hardcore progressives. They are far left. They are not centrist, they're not moderate. Uh they never have been. But they were taken out by radical socialists, many of whom espouse anti-American viewpoints.
And sadly for the Democrats and sadly for America, This is becoming the mainstream of the Democratic Party. When you look at Graham Plattner, when you look at, you know, out in New Jersey, you know, a defense witness for the bomber in the World Trade Center in 1993. I mean, it's crazy the people that they are nominating for public office for Congress, for the United States House of Representatives, and this is what they're putting forward.
So here is Senator Lisa Blunt. Rochester, is a Delaware Center, Democrat. This is how they're trying to handle this, Cut Eleven. Where has socialism ever worked? Senator.
Is that another question or is that for the next interview? That's definitely for you. You said fish doesn't work everywhere. I just want to know one place where socialism has been beneficial.
Well, when you have me come back on, we can talk about all the races. That's your answer, Patrick. That's CNBC. Just say it doesn't work. It's not what I believe, right?
Just say, well, I'm a capitalist and I want Medicare for all or something, but I'm not a socialist. What's so hard about that? It shouldn't be that hard. I mean, frankly, one of the only people that has pushed back against this is Josh Gottheimer from New Jersey. But this is craziness.
It's not that hard to say, I don't support socialism and I don't agree with their perspective. You know, listen, I had no problem calling out Thomas Massey or Marjorie Taylor Greene when I disagreed with them on a policy. You have to be willing to push back. This is a fight for the soul and the future of the country. This is almost.
beyond Republican versus Democrat. This you have crazy radical socialists that are seizing control of the Democratic Party. And Brian, they admit They're not even really Democrats. They're just using the Democratic Party as the vehicle. And so you have Hakeem Jeffries, who effectively lost control.
He cut a deal with Mamdani to protect himself so that Chiosei would not run against him in a primary, but basically threw everybody under the bus as sacrificial lambs from Esfayat to Goldman. And it's just, it's frankly, it's embarrassing what has become of the Democratic Party, especially in New York, where Zoran Mamdani and AOC are leading the charge. Yeah, so for you, I think just Jared Moskowitz, who's in Florida, but says the other thing besides socialism is anti-Semitism. Cut 16. If they want to have a policy debate, right, we can have that policy debate.
Like, I'm all for debating policies, and people don't have to agree with me on policies. They can have different positions, right? And the voters get to make those choices. But for me, what's going on is the movement has embraced a lot of anti-Semites. And some of the people coming here have a history of anti-Semitism, having nothing to do with Israel.
So that's the one other thing. You have to point that out, too. Even though you guys on the Republican Party, you also have the podcast platform who tends to be right.
Some have resigned from the Republican Party. There have been anti-Israel leaning towards anti-Semitism too, Mike. Oh, no question. And Brian, I've called it out. I mean, Josh Gottheimer and I put forward a resolution condemning Hassan Piker and Candace Owens, calling out Tucker Carlson.
I have no problem calling out anti-Semitism wherever it rears its head. It's vile and it has no place in our politics, let alone society. And unfortunately, what we're seeing, though, is especially on the left. They are electing and supporting candidates that are openly anti-Semitic. You saw in the primary against Thomas Massey, he was defeated despite trying to make it all about Israel.
And Jews. And so, you know, to me, both parties need to not only police this, but really ensure that these crazy, radical, anti-Semitic Semites are not being elected to public office. But look, this is bigger than that in many respects. It's not just anti-Semitism or Jew hatred. It is a hatred of America.
It is a hatred of Western democracy. It is a hatred of capitalism. They dabble in Marxist theory and the oppressed versus the oppressor. And that's what this is rooted in. And they fundamentally are trying to reshape America and American democracy and our constitutional republic.
In a way, it's a blessing for a guy like you. In a way, it's a blessing because you're in a battleground district. And it's so you have to be able to define people and say the difference. Because people in Battleground District know being extreme left to right is probably not going to be successful. You and Brian Fitzpatrick are examples of that.
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And your opponent is now Kate Conley on MS Now where anyone would feel comfortable who believes what he believes, cut 27. This administration. What it's done, it has been very clear it does not care about working class families. It does not care about the problems they are facing. And instead of fighting for those people, instead of fighting for families, Mike Lawler has given Donald Trump a blank check.
where you have families unable to even balance their checkbook. Have you given Donald Trump a blank check? No, and in fact, I'm the one who fought back against the president directly on the issue of salt. I'm the one that fought to pass the largest tax cut in American history, putting more money back in the pockets of hardworking New Yorkers, especially in my district. Lifting the capital on salt from $10,000 to $40,000 produced some of the largest tax refunds people have ever seen, between $5,000 and $20,000 on average, because We actually passed legislation that matters.
It's why I led the effort on housing and why we've passed a bipartisan housing bill to actually increase supply, reduce costs, and create greater access to capital. You know, Kate can't disagree with anything that these folks say. She wants to ban ICE. She wants to raise taxes and increase federal spending. She wants open borders.
She is no different than the rest of them. She just doesn't call herself a socialist. She went at ye again, cut twenty-five. Mike Lawler is a very skilled communicator because he spent the last 20 years as a political operative and political hack. where I've spent the last 20 years leading America's sons and daughters in defense of this nation.
Mike Lawler wants to get credit for doing things. You know, he's the guy who starts the fire and then wants credit for calling the fire department when really he is an arsonist. Uh are you an arsonist? No. In fact, I'm one of the most bipartisan and effective members of Congress precisely because I actually try to solve problems regardless of who started it or who created it.
Look, I respect her service, but that alone is not means by which she's qualified to be a member of Congress. And she has offered no solutions to anything. And in fact, the thing she does talk about, she says she wants to ban stock trading. I'm one of the leads on the bill to do that. Uh you know, she wants term limits.
I support that. I've been one of the leads on a bill to do that.
So, the things she's talking about that she's claiming somehow she's going to effectuate change on. We agree on it. But the reality is the stuff that matters to hardworking New Yorkers, the cost of living, she doesn't want to increase domestic production of energy. I'm calling for Indian Point to be rebuilt and reopened. I'm calling for natural gas pipelines to be built.
I'm calling for natural gas extraction in New York to be permitted. The fact is, utility rates are up 58% in New York precisely because she supports Kathy Hochul's disastrous policies of shutting down nuclear power plants and blocking natural gas.
So you look at the issue of affordability. Let's talk about affordability. Let's talk about the fact that New York has a $277 billion budget, up $20 billion in one year, and she said nothing about it.
Meanwhile, New Yorkers are leaving in droves because they can't afford to live here. You want to address the issue of affordability, start reining in the size and scope of government in New York. That's what we've been doing in Washington, right-sizing the federal budget, starting to rein in the excesses and make it easier for people to afford where they live. The stock market is hitting record highs. Interest rates are coming down.
Oil prices are dropping precipitously as the Strait of Hormuz reopens. You know, Democrats have done nothing to address any of these issues. All they do is yell and scream that they hate Donald Trump. I worry that the blue states are going to keep taxes high to keep gas high to give the perception that the gas is not going down. I mean, I went to California to watch to cover the U.S.
national team. Gas is like $7. I mean, even when it comes down, because there's so many taxes put into the gallon. That they tax people to death in California and New York. And I had this debate with Maxine Waters just a few weeks ago in the Financial Services Committee.
She was screaming about gas prices. And I pointed out that the reason California has the highest gas prices anywhere in the country is because all the excise taxes they add onto it on top of your traditional highway tax. Congressman, do you think Kathy Hogle's got to make a decision here? She's scared to death of him. I'm talking about Mom Dami.
She doesn't run as a socialist, but Bruce Blakeman's got an opportunity here to define her. She's got to decide either you leave Mondami. Or you make yourself a socialist and run as Mondami to keep your. governor's seat. Kathy Hochl is the most feckless, incompetent governor in America.
She has run the state into the ground, and she has kowtowed to the socialists in the same way Jeffries and Schumer have. I mean, they're petrified of Zoran Mamdani and AOC. They have turned over the legislative agenda to them. They refuse to negotiate in good faith on anything. They've shut the government down for months on end, all to appease these crazy radical socialists.
And, you know, unfortunately, Kathy Hochl does not have the spine nor the intelligence to actually push back against this insanity. Congressman, if you lose, the If you lose your seat. Republicans have no shot at keeping the House, and I think they realize that. And you're a really good campaigner, and you are an impactful congressman. People don't have to look hard to see your record.
You're not sneaking out or disappearing for months on end like the guy in New Jersey. You're always in the fight. Always appreciate having you on. You do a consequential job. Congressman Mike Loa, thanks so much.
Thanks, Brian. Appreciate it.