Trump weighs bombing Iran’s nuclear sites

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Dan Springer in 15 minutes. Then, Lieutenant General Ken Tobo, retired U.S. Army Special Operations Commander, on the 73rd birthday of Green Beret. He is chairman of the foundation. We have a lot going on today, and we're following all the moving parts and will be with you every step of the way.

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Number one. I have ideas as to what to do, but I haven't made a final. I like to make the final decision one second before it's due, you know, because things change. I mean, especially with war. Things change with war.

It can go from. One extreme to the other. That's the president of the United States. Willie Owuni, he knows the attack plan. He knows what he signed off on and the objective.

But will he drop the bunker busters and end Iran's nuke program for now and forever? We bring you the latest. And before you talk about that, you drop the bombs, it'll come off. The B-2s will drop it. I think they'll hit one.

The word is in the simplistic layman's terms: you make the huge hole, you detonate it. We've never dropped this bomb before. The largest, most lethal, non-nuclear bomb that we have, which means the largest in the world. I thought it was the same as the mother of all bombs. And it isn't.

That's fifteen tons. This is thirty.

So one's go one goes behind the other. They'll do that. The question is, will it be destroyed? And I think you probably need a ground operation to finish it off.

However, the other story is the retaliation. What is Iran capable of? Sealing off the Strait of Hermuz? I don't know. I don't think so.

Do you think got the Navy to do that? You don't think we'll just keep that back rip rip that back open? Do they have surrogates that elect? They haven't so far. Do you worry about the two thousand five hundred Americans deployed in Iraq, the four hundred in Syria, Bahrain?

And cut up, perhaps. We've got aircraft carriers, but they're not sitting ducks. I'm not sure what they're capable of. Remember, we killed all their command no excuse me, Israel's killed all their commanders. Remember, they've wiped out their nuclear scientists, not all of them, but most of them.

And then they got their intelligence officers. The top four have been wiped out. Then one got replaced and he got killed.

So, what are they capable of? Is this a window of opportunity to take an enemy down that's been targeting us for 46 years? Here's Ayatollah Khomeini, because the President of the United States said, here's the deal. I'm not negotiating. It's called total surrender.

Cut one. The Iranian nation will not surrender to anyone in the face of imposition. The Zionist enemy has made a big mistake. committed a big crime. and must be punished and is being punished.

The damage America will suffer if it makes a military intervention in this field will undoubtedly be irreparable. Right. Let's take a look at what they did. Yesterday, they aimed and hit a hospital. People wounded beat up anyway in a hospital by definition, about 80 plus.

Prime Minister just showed up a half hour ago, Netanyahu, and said this changes everything. This guy essentially said, according to the defense minister too, Katz, now he should be assassinated. Meaning, you're going for hospitals. I know you're targeting. These are not the Hamas rockets that just go in the vicinity of things.

These are targeted. Missiles. Here is the Iranian deputy foreign minister talking toff cut to. He's fine. to get involved militarily.

We have no choice. But to Uh retaliate wherever we find the targets necessary to be acted upon.

So that is f that is clear and simple. Because we are we are acting in self-defense.

So, yeah, does President Trump have to think about that? Absolutely. What happens next? Worst case scenario. We're not getting gummed up in any war.

This is going to be Syria similar to in the 1980s they blew up Iraq's nuclear facility. In 2007, they blew up Syria's nuclear facility. This will be harder, but they've already loosened up the targets, have done more significant surveillance and operations. They're afraid in these areas. All these surrogates, the resistance in Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthi rebels, the militias in Iraq.

Do you know they're afraid to use a cell phone? They don't want to be tracked, and they also don't want it to explode.

So they are freaked out about the tentacles of. Israel, the Mossad, and what they've been doing. They've watched the mothership, Iran, get their butt kicked and embarrassed. They see Hezbollah. Do you know the new leader of Hezbollah gave a speech?

First time, no Hezbollah or Iranian flag behind, just a Lebanon flag. The Israelis have actually handed the Lebanese back their country. Syria has got rid of Assad. Iran is about to go next, in my opinion. Here is Britt Yume, cut eight.

The president has good reason for pausing, or at least waiting, before he agrees to fire a shot or drop a bomb. The first one being the Israelis are doing a great job so far of taking out much, if not most, of Iran's nuclear program. There's obviously more to do, and it's not clear the Israelis can do it all. And the second reason for waiting is that every day Israel takes out more and more of Iran's ballistic weapons launchers. Those weapons, those launchers and those ballistic missiles don't threaten the continental United States, but they are a threat to U.S.

assets in the Middle East. And I'm sure the President would like to see as much of that threat wiped out as possible before he took any action that could be retaliated against by Iran. Right. And of course, I think the President does look at worst case scenarios. He met with the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Carrilla.

He is meeting with Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, who's also his national security advisor, with Secretary of Defense Pete Hagseth, who was in there. I think that Tulsi Gabbard kind of pushed to the For now, I think he's ticked it, or I think the reports are true. Because she came out and said no proof that Iran is trying to weaponize their nuclear program. We all know that's folly. The IAEA proved it.

They're up to 65% in Richmond. 90% gets you over the top.

So he was disappointed because she, up to this point, has been giving very comprehensive security briefings. Briefings, believe it or not, the president's taking.

So Democrats, they said you got to come back to us in check. He does not have to do that. Senator Richard Blumenthal, who's trying to act in a bipartisan, Lieberman way, but went right back to his political roots, cut seven. I have no sense, no confidence. That we have adequately prepared U.S.

personnel in the region for the ramifications of a strike. Which is crap. You gonna tell me the guy that's out there for the soldier, the Secretary of Defense, Pete Hakeseth, is not one to the twenty five hundred numbers or troops. You don't think they got missile defense out there? You don't think the four hundred in Syria are protected and fortified the best possible?

But would you to play it out if our guys are hit and we suffer casualties, we're going to hit them back again? Guess who knows that? Iran. The guest who is like literally fighting for their lives have to wonder, these unpopular. Radical regime.

that the people of Iran hate Are they going to have this opportunity? To do a Qaddafi on the 86-year-old great Grand Ayatollah, you know, where he was basically tortured and killed with their bare hands. The Libyan people hated him so much.

So you go do that. Take the number one fighting force pound for pound in the world, Israel, the most lethal superpower that the world has ever known, America. And then you go ahead and you say you're going to retaliate. And the problem with waiting is what we witnessed last night: less rockets, but they bombed a hospital.

So you could wait. Unless you're that that tenant in a apartment complex that gets a rocket through your window. then you'll say, why did you wait?

So Dan Springer's going to be next. With the domestic problem still exists, the President's not going to tolerate it. But we watched the No King's Day in countless cities with lots of protesters.

Well, do you remember the chop zone? Summer of Love, which was anything but. Dan Springer was there doing all the reporting. He's got a special out on Fox Nation. He'll be joining us next.

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There were people running around the chop zone with AR-15s: frozen water bottles, bricks, rocks, anything they could get their hands on. Political failure, violence, cowardice. There is no one coming to help you because the police had completely left the area. Free Capitol Hill. The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone.

Thought it was called Chaz.

Now it's called Chop. Chop just destroyed my whole family. Why didn't you put the brakes on it days ago? We all reached our breaking point at that moment. To this day, it's unlike anything that I've experienced.

That's why politics should never cross paths in public safety. Why did you have to wait till another young man passed away? When it does, people die. That is some highlights from the brand new show on Fox Nation called Summer of Chaos Inside the Seattle's Chop Zone. It's, as I mentioned, on Fox Nation.

The guy that was there every step of the way was Dan Springer, so he's hosting it, recounting it, and revisiting it. Dan, welcome.

Well, hey, how you doing, Brian? Hey, first off, put in perspective, I mean, it's I can't believe it was five years ago already. What led to this gradual chaos that people seem to be willing to accept?

Well, it was the city of Seattle deciding that they didn't want to have confrontations between police and protesters, so the police just walked away from a precinct. Uh the like they did in Minnesota, right?

Well well, yeah, but this was in Minnesota they went back in. In Seattle they stayed out for a month. And the mayor said we want to just cool the temperature down a little bit.

So let's, instead of having that police line that we saw outside of the East Precinct every single night after George Floyd was killed, instead of seeing that conflict every night and the police having stuff thrown at them and then responding with pepper balls and what have you, let's just have them walk away.

So they did. And the police weren't there in a six-block area of Seattle for at least three and a half weeks. And the total chaos is captured in this box special. It really does. It took me right back to those those days there.

It was crazy. Twenty three days. Like you mentioned, it's about three weeks. The former mayor dubbed it a summer of love. And then it became chop.

Quickly devolved into chaos and violence, and then two young black men were killed. Yeah, and we realized that the police weren't coming because we were there and run out of that place. I had people jumping on top of our car. They were trying to get at us. We had two armed security guards, and they basically were neutered because you can't start shooting these guys.

Unless they shoot at you. And so we were basically chased out of there. We went to the West Precinct about a mile and a half away. The cops wouldn't let us inside because they didn't want to have the parade of protesters who are following us. Come inside the precinct.

So you just realized covering the story that the cops just were not going to engage. It's incredible. I want you to hear the family of a six-year-old Antonio Mays Jr. who was killed in the second fatal shooting, Cut 38. There was a Seattle detective that called me, you know, after the sheriffs left my home, and he told me that there was a mob chasing after the truck that my son was a passenger in, and the mob was firing gunshots that sounded like World War II.

He said it sounded like the 4th of July. I got one or two calls from the chief of police. Basically, a shoulder to cry on. I'm not crying on your shoulder, lady. I want you to arrest somebody.

Anger, right? Oh yeah. And we saw it from people who lived in the chop or just around the chop, business owners who had their their businesses ransacked by the protesters. We saw people, Brian, passing out AR 15s in from the back of their Priuses. Is that not the most Seattle thing ever?

To run security in the chop because the cops were told that they had to stay out of there? The back of a Prius, you can get an AR fifteen. And go charge it up. Dan Springer with us.

So, Dan, I did think did is that the city where the President at the time Trump sent in National Guard Federal troops? No, that was Portland.

So, yeah, my region, Portland and Seattle had the craziness of 2020. That's where we had National Guard and we had federal troops. Surrounding the federal building, there, which was the scene of 100-plus days of riots in a row outside that building. Portland was nuts, too. But at least in Portland, the police didn't just abdicate the responsibility as told by their leadership and leave a portion of the city unprotected.

Yeah, here's a little bit more from the protesters: they took over a portion in 2020, CUD36. They took over about a six-block area of Capitol Hill, including a big park. Initially, it was like, whoa, they have control of this area. Police aren't here. A couple of days later, we started to see that the police weren't coming back in.

They weren't trying to get these people out. And we were like, Well, what's happening here? We were forbidden to go into six square blocks in the city of Seattle where we are obligated by not just the federal constitution, but city charter, our manual, and our labor contract to provide safety for our general community. Yes, we need to figure out how to replace the police. It's just steadily flourished since enforcement has been gone.

You know the crazy den? You wouldn't know this, but I always flip around just to get a perspective, especially for the radio show. The other networks were saying what a great thing this was. Cops were the bad guys. Cops are the problem.

Let's reimagine police.

Now we laugh at that statement. People are afraid to use that statement, let alone defund. But can you get yourself in the 2020 mindset? Do you remember when that was something that people were really considering? I remember it distinctly because we had city council members from Seattle who were out there at the protest, at this art fair that turned into the chop that was the chazz.

We had city council members out there supporting the protesters who had taken over a portion of the city, saying that they agreed with their They're uh Idea of defunding the police, and they voted. They voted after that to defund the police by 50%. The mayor ultimately went and vetoed that. But no, the political will was completely gone in terms of public safety. They backed these protesters 100%, many of the leadership in Seattle.

Wow, pretty amazing. And when you look back on this, the coverage as you put it together, did anything surprise you?

Well, not really because we did see a swing back of the pendulum politically in Seattle after that, well after that, I should say. The mayor did not seek reelection. Many of the city council members were voted out. And so the citizens of Seattle Did moderate a little bit after that. And so, you know, the lessons of the chop were what?

You do need police. Guess what? You do need police. And yes. There are some bad cops out there.

We all know that. But you cannot have them leave a portion of the city unprotected. Is Seattle safe now? It's safer. It's safer.

No. It's still the very liberal part of the city, Capitol Hill. And it still has some of the murals from twenty twenty etched on the buildings and in the streets. And it's a very quirky, funky part of the city. We'll never really Changed completely.

But as far as the safety in the city, the police are trying to make a rebound. You're seeing a lot more officers being recruited with big pay, by the way. They have to do that to get them to come in.

So check out Dan Sprayer. Dan, let me just, I don't want to get you cut off here. The Summer of Chaos Inside Seattle's Chop Zone with Dan Sprayer. Dan, thanks so much for doing this. Catch it on Fox Nation.

It's now out. Go get him, Dan. All right, take care. Back in a moment. Power, Politics and the People Behind the Headlines.

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If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. Hi, welcome back everybody. Brian Kilmichelle. We're following different movements over with Israel, obviously in Iran, as well as our troops who are fortifying themselves.

We have another aircraft carrier making its way to the region. And people are just thinking it's a matter of time before we take out one of the final nuclear plants, and that is. The Fordo plant. And the thing is, I would not doubt that there's other plants that probably need bunker busters too. With me in studio is Lieutenant General Ken Tovo, retired Former U.S.

Army Special Operations Commander, Lieutenant General, and Charles Icano, who is the CEO, really, of the Green Beret Foundation. And this is the 73rd birthday of the Green Berets and what the role they play in the country. Guys, welcome. Thank you. Appreciate being here.

General, just fresh off T V, you're not sick of me yet, fellow Long Islander. But just for you personally, as we're ramping up again in the region, people are saying, wow, I thought we were done with Middle East wars. I think just an oversimplification of what's going on right now. You have a great perspective. You were deployed, you told me five times in Iraq.

You were there in the First Persian Gulf War. You came up around my age. We remember the embassy bombing in the eighties. Uh when Reagan was there. Your thoughts about what's happening now.

Yeah. You know, as we talked a little bit on T V, that this is a problem that has really been in existence since 1979. We may want To disconnect from the Middle East, but the Iranians are an adversary of us. They think they're at war with us. We are their number one enemy.

Israel is number two. Your whole life, really. Yeah, I mean, really. But they never declared war. No.

But their covert actions show that they have. Yeah, I mean, I started my Army career at West Point in 1979. It was at West Point when we brought the hostages back home through West Point as part of their reintegration. What do you remember from that? I remember standing on the road where they brought the buses through, where they brought the buses through, and we had yellow ribbons everywhere and people cheering, and it was just, you know, it was kind of the euphoria of.

The fact that they were home, that the crisis, it seemed like, was over. And the other thing I remember, frankly, was the failed rescue attempt, which is in many ways the birth of modern special operations forces in the U.S. military. Green Berets there? We had Green Berets involved in that, yes.

In fact, they were some Green Berets out of a detachment in Berlin who infiltrated into Iran and were doing a lot of the reconnaissance and pre-setup, if you will, in Tehran to facilitate activities for the ground force that was supposed to come in. When you think about the Cobar Towers, where 18 died, when you think about the Marine bombing, with 241 died, and there was a bombing part of that. Embassy bombing. Embassy bombing too. When you look at the 603 Americans that were killed in Iraq, with directly on the hands of Iran, as well as what they've done with the militias and the insurgency that happened.

Do you think they've ever paid a price for this type of insidious behavior? Yeah, we have pushed back at various times and places. but never really finished the job. And I think that's what we see here as potentially an opportunity to defang Iran. My personal opinion is, yeah, I think this is the the Israelis have set the conditions for to mitigate as much as of the negative Consequences that might come out of this as possible.

Of course, when you unleash the dogs of war, you never know where it's going to go.

So it it is hard to predict, but um you know One of the worries was the Iranian response if we take out things like Fordo. They have significant ballistic missile capability. They've got the ability to impede economic flow through the Persian Gulf, the Arabian Gulf. And so there are potential consequences. But a lot of those have been mitigated by the fact that the Israelis have really reduced the capability of Hezbollah and some of their other asymmetric proxies.

And I'll tell you what, Charlie, the organization that you now head, the Green Bureau Foundation, a lot of those, including Ah, the general's son. A member of the Green Beres. What is that like in the community when a conflict seems to be percolating? You know, it's a very Opportunity for us to take a pause and see if our mission alignment is correct. It's something that we do quite frequently, both at the leadership level with the board that General Tovo leads.

But in addition to that, from just a pure team sense, we have incredible team members at the Greenberry Foundation, many of which have served in the regiment.

So we trust that they have their ear to the ground, understand how tempo may change for us as a foundation, while at the same time, from a philanthropic and nonprofit perspective, we're hardwiring our processes to ensure we have the capabilities to raise more money when time matters most, to be able to respond when that phone rings and to be able to support the community, not just the active duty force, but the veteran force too. There's a lot of coverage that we'll need to cover down on.

So, General, what makes these Green Braves different part of the Special Forces? They're part of the Special Operations, but they're different than SEALs. Yeah, so. Much of our nation's special operations community are what I would call commandos. They're focused on direct action, sort of speed, surprise, violence of action, like a big coordinated operation to go directly at an enemy capability, capture somebody.

uh destroy something. Think uh A SWAT team, right, would be the civilian equivalent.

So Green Berets can do some of those things and do, and we train against that. But really, the focus of the Green Berets is working with an Indigenous partner to create their capabilities. The central purpose is to work with resistance movements to help a a force either overthrow an occupying power or maybe overthrow an unfriendly regime. Once again, you think think France in World War II and allies parachuting into France to help the resistance overthrow the Germans, like we did in the early days of the Afghan war. We had special forces on the ground with the CIA to work with the Northern Alliance to overthrow the Taliban.

Opening days of the Iraq invasion, the 10th Special Forces Group was up north working with the Kurdish Peshmerga to help. ensure that the Iraqi army that was up north stayed up north and didn't impede the invasion towards Baghdad. I was a member of that effort. And so this unconventional capability is really the core purpose of Green Berets. And it takes you down a whole different training path, a selection, to get the right kind of person who's willing to be an athlete.

Because you're forced to. It is a physical business. And so part of our selection and assessment process involves physicality. You've got to be able to carry the rucksack, walk a long distance. particularly because it's often in austere environments with sort of low-tech partners.

So you've got to be able to keep up. Yeah, Charlie, when you look at people with Korean Brace, usually multiple deployments. And that takes a psychological and physical toll. I was talking to some people that says when you're a 32-year-old special operator. It's like you're a football player between your knees and your shoulders and things like that.

How does that play into the foundation?

So, the Green Beret Foundation has a really concentrated effort in promoting strength in mind, body, and spirit. We believe that the warfighter, both veteran and active, has to be equipped with the best equipment, not only downrange, but when they come home or when they're. Coming off deployment. There's an incredible initiative that we have going on right now through a Zenden initiative, and that allows quicker recovery for active duty Green Berets through a variety of different devices that we're supporting and being able to provide to the various groups across the country. But then when they transition too, there's that significant gap where they are no longer possibly operating at the same tempo.

So we look to see how we can help better position them to be successful in their next career and their next chapter. Like, does the foundation just think the VA can't? It's not that the foundation thinks that the VA can't. We see ourselves as a supplemental effort to the VA.

So, from our expertise at our team of VSOs led by an individual at each Special Forces group, they look at the disability rating, they help the Green Beret navigate that process. We are a VA accredited, the only VA accredited SOF nonprofit to be able to operate in that space.

So, it's not that the fact that they can't, we just see ourselves as a force multiplier to help them with that effort.

So, since 1922? 1952? 1952, how has the characteristics of Green Beret changed? For example, I heard that. back in the Vietnam era, more big, bulky guys.

And now we got a kind of like lean guys like you or a different characterization. Yeah, uh actually in our in the force today you see a little bit of both, right? You've got guys that are, I would call it the runner's body, right? You know, lean and wiry. And then and then we've got plenty of the you know kind of linebacker looking guys who can push the weight, but in the end they all have to meet the same standards, right?

And the standards are pretty high. And we talk about the physicality, you know, you asked that question about. Athlete. Athlete, right. And it is.

And on the active duty side, we've brought in performance coaches, but it's a holistic thing. It's also psychologists, behavioral health, et cetera. But in the end, one of the One of the key characteristics of Green Braze is intelligence, both actual IQ, but also emotional intelligence, ability to work with and influence people. You know, I like to see. But you're training other people too.

Yeah, absolutely. And because that's the purpose, is to work through an Indigenous partner. And so you've got to be able to kind of. understand the culture. You've got to be able to work through the differences of potentially objectives and outcomes that we're seeking.

But in the end, you know, Green Bra is his main weapon is his mind. We put people in complex, chaotic environments, often with little guidance and Often, with not great resources, but the bottom line is we expect them to problem solve and come up with appropriate solutions based on the task and purpose they were given. Right. And when you get these guys together, Charlie, what is it usually like when the foundation gets together, the stories that are swapped, how they look out for each other, and the bond between them? Being an outsider looking in and being very privileged to lead this organization, the first of its kind in our community.

You know, the stories are Are just the beginning part of that bond. Our programs are really designed to be centric to the Green Beret and their family member. Designed by Green Berets, led by Green Berets, led by Mill spouses, others who have served.

So we're very fortunate that the creativity of not only our programs and our services don't only touch on the surface level, they go much deeper and they stay with those individuals. And then those individuals can become ambassadors or force multipliers for our foundation as well. The biggest thing that we look at is. Connectivity and fellowship is something that I think is probably one of the things that make the ODA so strong in theater and brotherhood. And we look to recreate that through a variety of different programs and services here stateside and across the globe because we are a global organization.

We have support systems in Japan as well as Germany.

So I understand you're giving an award to President John F. Kennedy. Why?

Okay. I'll defer that to General Tobo. He's the historian on that.

So Green Berets officially stood up in 1952, really focused on unconventional warfare in Europe, the ability to raise armies behind the Iron Curtain if we started World War III. President Kennedy comes in and recognizes that The world is changing. The geopolitical uh situation is such that There's insurgencies around the world that are being inspired by the Soviet Union, and that we needed a different kind of capability to fight that. And then he gets a chance to go to Fort Bragg. He sees the Green Braves in action.

And really from that point on, his sponsorship, he recognized that Special Forces was the tool that was needed to work in these kind of messy environments. where we're working to undermine Soviet-inspired insurgencies. And it really caused a renaissance, if you will, and a buildup of the force structure, but really the strategic importance that the National Command Authority placed on this capability.

So how do you plan on recognizing him? Are you going to make him a distinguished member of the regiment?

So actually, back in April, we've already kind of done this. The Active Force has a program where they have distinguished members of the regiment. And the Green Beret Foundation supported a Ambassador Kennedy was invited down, unfortunately, unable to make it, but her son did, and he was inducted as a member of the regiment. Oh, that's nice. Guys, congratulations.

Thanks so much for your service and what you guys do. The Green Berets are celebrating their 73rd birthday. Lieutenant General Ken Tovo and Charlie Icano, thanks so much. And if people want to give, where do they go? GreenburyFoundation.org can learn about our programs and services and certainly support our cause.

We'd welcome your support. All right. Great job, guys. Thank you so much. Thank you so much.

Thank you for time. Appreciate it.

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But let's just remember too, the Iranians literally throw gay people off of buildings. They don't adhere to basic human rights. Listen, here's the thing for us. Let's not do that because if we start with that, we have been known in this country to tie gay folks to the colonial. Where the Iranian regime is getting used to just hanging black people.

So let's do it. It is not even the same. I could have stepped foot wearing this. That's not what you mean to say. It is the same.

No, it's not. The year 2025 in the United States is nothing like if I step foot wearing this young face. I'm going to go to the bottom and get killed. I think it's very different to live in the United States in 2025 than it is to live in Iran. Not if you're black.

Not for everybody. Not if you're black. Guys, don't vote it for. Do not any note at that table. Right.

These idiots, just total morons, and these seals clapping for them in the view. You compare Iranian society to U.S.

society, and you're talking about comparing that to 200 years ago in America. For a black person in America, you equate your situation, Whoopi Goldberg, or anyone, to what they deal with with Iran. They have no clue. These are the idiots that go out and. Protest for Iran when Israel bombs them back.

Last week. Those are the ones that Griff Jenkins caught up to at Times Square going for the Sharia law. I mean, those are these idiots that stand up in Dearborn and want society to change back to the oppressive society. The ones that protest up Columbia, NYU, and City College in New York and Harvard, they think the Jewish community, Israelis, are the problem. They look at those countries with these horrible governments where the people hate their government and say, well, it's just like being a black person in America.

If you do believe that, I have great news for you. You could absolutely go to those countries that are so similar to life in America and tell me if you can draw some parallels. That'll be really educational for me to see what it's like for you.

So, Woodby Goldberg, who's lived in a light with the upper class for. Fifty years? Thinks that it's just hell living life in America. But if you look at the Democratic Party, that's really where they're at right now. Let's blame, let's point fingers, and let's have uh continue to Run the Trump derangement syndrome.

Here's Barack Obama. Talking about The new changes that have to come to the party in his own professor pro professorial way, cut thirteen. You could be as progressive and socially conscious as you wanted, and you did not have to pay a price. You could still make a lot of money. Your commitments are being tested.

You might lose some of your Donors. If you're a university. And if you're a law firm, your billings might drop a little bit. Which means you cannot remodel That kitchen. In your house in the Hamptons this summer.

So that's a circuitous, confusing way to say what Whippet Goldberg was saying. I hate America. It's coming towards a dictatorship. It's Donald Trump's fault. And Democrats, you have to sacrifice a little and not redo your kitchen if you want a future for your party.

But I got news for you. Even according to the New York Times, the Democratic Party is in a national crisis. Their chairman, Ken Martin, can't raise any money, but he can raise his salary to $350,000. He can't get the billionaires to donate. The billionaires aren't talking to people, and they can't get a message down.

They can't get a mission statement. And the bad news for them is today President Biden comes back. Yes. He comes back on Juneteenth because it was his idea to make it a holiday. And he'll scream and mumble his way through an address and remind everyone what we've been through over the last four years.

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We have all the latest information. We could be hearing about more military maneuvers as it relates to Iran. We also have a situation where the big, beautiful bill that has to pass for the Trump agenda to be successful is working its way through the Senate. They only have a couple more weeks and they'll hand something to the House that maybe will be acceptable, but they have a long way to go.

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Now, time to fix the rest. Number 10. Democracy is not self-executed. It requires people. to uphold the Constitution.

When that Isn't happening, we start drifting into something that is not consistent with American democracy. That is President Obama, the professor. Dems in disarray, and the complaints are coming from the left. We bring you inside the story of the infighting that could keep the House in GOP hands. Number one.

I have ideas as to what to do, but I haven't read a file. I like to make the final decision one second before it's due, you know, because things change. Especially with war. Things change with war. It can go from one extreme to the other.

That is President Trump. He's got a lot on his plate, right? Will he or won't he? He knows the attack plan. He signed off on it.

The question is: will he execute it? Will he drop the bunker buster after bunker buster, maybe after bunker buster, and finally end the Iranian nuk program because they won't go to the table and do it themselves? Mark Thiessen joins us now, Mark Washington Post, Fox News contributor. Mark, welcome back. Your thoughts on how close the president is to executing this strike.

I think he's going to do it. It's only a question of time. Look, this operation can't. end with Fordo intact. It's just that simple.

Imagine the message that would send around the world if we were unable to destroy it. If the Chinese would look and say Trump isn't willing to drop a couple of bunker busters on photo, he's definitely not going to defend Taiwan. And Russia would be emboldened. North Korea would be emboldened. I mean, this is essential.

It's like once you start something, you have to finish it. And this operation has to end with the total destruction of the Iranian nuclear program. The Israelis can't. Can't do it, particularly in Fordo. They could damage Fordo a lot.

So, what they can do, for example, is what they did in Attance, which was take out the electrical power. And what that does is that stops that creates an uncontrolled stop within the centrifuges. And if they slow down too quickly, they'll break up as they go on and it can destroy some of the centrifuges. They could destroy the ventilation system, which means you can't get down there and it would delay the execution of the enrichment and the weapons. I want you to hear what the Grand Aytolla said, cut one.

The Iranian nation will not surrender to anyone in the face of imposition. The Zionist enemy has made a big mistake. committed a big crime. and must be punished and is being punished. The damage America will suffer if it makes a military intervention in this field will undoubtedly be irreparable.

You worried? Uh yeah, just like they did after Costum Solomani. You know, I mean, it's so so here w when when Trump killed Soleimani, he sent a message through the Swiss diplomatic channel to the Iranians that if they killed a single American in retaliation, he would kill Khamene. But they did rocket the base, right?

Well, what they did is they did a pinprick strike. They didn't kill anybody. That was their way of saying, you know, we've retaliated. But they warned us ahead of time that it was coming so we could prepare. It was basically a faith-saving move.

They didn't kill anybody, they backed down. And so the reality is this is very similar to the Soleimani strike. Israel is carrying the brunt of this operation. They need us to come in and do a specific targeted attack on this facility because we have capabilities that they do not and that no one else in the world has. And we're going to execute that.

And then Trump can say, I mean, Trump told the Israelis: don't take out Khamenei. They had an operation ready. They probably have a moving target on him, and they know where he is. And Trump said, We know where he is. And the answer will be: we'll take this out and say, you retaliate, Khamenei dies.

So, your choice. And they will back down.

Well, they hit a hospital last night. They hurt about 80 people. And the Secretary of Defense, their version, their defense minister, said essentially. The Khomeini is now open for assassination, and as is the Prime Minister. And that's the problem with waiting.

Yes, Israel is doing more damage. Yes, there's only a finite number of weapons, but people die because they're aiming for civilian targets. 400 ballistic missiles, over 1,000 drones, 200 have penetrated inside Israel. I've noticed all the protests at Harvard about the genocide of the Jewish people. Oh, it's summer.

Don't worry, it's coming. They're protesting the targeting of civilians by the Iranians. You know, it's quite remarkable. The streets are aflame in America with protests over this. I mean, it's always genocide except against the Jews.

Look, Israel, the truth is, Israel right now is absolutely devastating Iran, and Iran has Iran's original plan. Was if Israel attacked them, they would send a thousand ballistic missiles on Iran, which would completely overwhelm the Iron Dome. Hundreds would get through. There would be mass destruction and all the rest of it. And what the Iranians did so brilliantly is they launched their attack and then they took out the entire Iranian general staff.

And so there was nobody to give the order, which gave them time to take out a number of the ballistic missile launchers.

So when the attack came, it had like 400 missiles, right? Which was enough to get some through, but not enough to cause the kind of destruction. And now every time the Iranians fire a missile, the Israelis track where the missile came from and take out the launcher. And so that's the choke point. And so what's happening is now they're sending twenty missiles, thirty missiles, forty missiles.

They have to send fifty missiles in order to get one through. And so they go, and they're conserving their missiles. And so they have to send them in enough mud to get something through, and eventually they're going to run out. They're going to run out of launchers. They're not going to be able to respond.

Evidently, they're not going to be able to respond at all. The Israelis are saying they've taken out over 50% of their launchers.

So here we go.

Now, there's a report in the Daily Telegraph that there's been three separate flights from China, which they write destination Luxembourg, but they don't go there. That they filled the 747s, they go through Kazakhstan, the south of Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, and they end up in Iran. And that these are the types of planes that you could put weapons on. What should we do? That is well, that is certainly something that should be addressed diplomatically by the Trump administration with the Chinese.

We don't know what they're doing or what they're sending, but I'm sure our intelligence community is looking in that and that they we want to send the message to the Chinese, don't get involved in this. You don't want to be a part of this.

So, what do you think is holding up? I mean, Trump is trying to think this through. You got to think worst-case scenario. They aim for the 2,500 American troops in Iraq. They aim for the 400 American troops in Syria.

They go for Bahrain, Qatar. They could have sleeper cells here. If you're Trump, what are you thinking about in terms of retaliation? Again, the answer is it's the Salamani plan. You tell the your regime The choice is, does your regime survive or not?

Because we we will decapitate your regime. If you kill a single American, we're not launching attacks against, we're not decapitating right now, we're not attacking Iranian leadership, we're just taking out a specific facility. If you go after Americans, we're going to kill your top leadership, and your regime will be gone.

So, your choice is regime survival or not. Um, and this is the other thing. I don't understand some people on the right who are saying, Well, no regime change, no regime change. It's like, I'm sorry, we're not talking about sending hundreds of thousands of American troops into Tehran for regime change. But if the regime falls because they miscalculated and the Iranian people rise up, that's a good thing for the world.

You know, Ronald Reagan was the greatest regime change president in American history. He brought down the Soviet Union and the entire Eastern Bloc. He didn't send any American troops to do it. That was a good thing. The people keep confusing, oh, we're going to get into another Middle Eastern war.

Nobody's talking about invading Tehran and occupying Tehran. We're talking about military strikes for a specific purpose.

So, you know, there's a lot of confusion about, you know, because we went into Iraq and in a regime change war, now all of a sudden all regime change is bad. The regime change in Syria was great. The leader of Syria now is meeting with Trump in Saudi Arabia. We like that regime change. We didn't do it.

But but if the regime happens to change and somebody who doesn't want to wake up every morning saying, I want to how can I thwart America today? How can I threaten America today is in power? That's a good thing. No, I hear you. Mark Thiessen, our guest.

Mark, just looking at what the President's juggling right now, he's also juggling some fractures on the right. Steve Bannon. Um talker I I don't know, Luri Laura Loomer, some of the not Charlie Kirk, I don't Charlie understand. I'm just so he the MAGA base does not want him in a Middle East war. And he's still how do you feel about that?

Not true. That is 100% not true.

So here's the thing: the isolationists in the right are a tiny, tiny cabal that have. Absolutely no support with the MAGA movement.

So, the Reagan Institute poll is coming out this weekend. I've got the advanced numbers. Here are the numbers on Israel. This is Self-described MAGA voters. 90% of MAGA voters say stopping Iran from getting a nuclear weapon is vital to U.S.

national security. 80% of MAGA voters say the security of Israel is vital to U.S. security. 73% want to send weapons to Israel to help them fight Hamas and Hezbollah and Iran. And 64% support Israel carrying out airstrikes to destroy Iranian nuclear facilities.

That is MAGA voters. They are actually more hawkish than establishment Republicans. Tucker, Bannon, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and all these morons out there have no support in the MAGA movement. They are what these isolationist Republicans have done is they're loud and they're vocal and they're a tiny minority. And they hitch themselves onto the MAGA bandwagon and try and the Trump America First agenda.

And they're discovering that Trump is not an isolationist, and neither are the MAGA base.

So they're completely out of touch. This is like an insignificant faction that just gets a lot of attention because they're loud and they have some channels to talk through. But, you know, and Tucker had to apologize to Trump. You know, he used them and groveled. I didn't know this.

When was this? The other day, he called Trump and apologized for overstay uh for for for uh for uh for criticizing him.

Well, okay, that's news because I watched him brawl with Ted Cruz. He looked like he was brawling with Trump through Ted Cruz, but we'll see how he feels. I'm friends with Tucker. I just disagree with him on this majorly. I just, nobody wants war, but our enemies have a vote, obviously.

And this enemy has been the same enemy for 46 years. But, Mark, I want to bring you to what's going on with the surrogates. This is what's so astounding that Israel has done. They have Hezbollah's leader go on television with a Lebanese flag behind him. Hamas has not said a word.

The Houthi rebels are Houthis first. That's their attitude. Why do you think that is? Even the militias in Iraq are afraid to use their cell phones, according to the Wall Street Journal. And the Houthis, shocking to this to see how Iran is deeply penetrated by the intelligence.

What do you think is happening? And it's so significant. I don't know if I have enough superlatives to describe it.

So here's the other difference between the time of the Soleimani strike and this, if Trump does it, is that at the time that he carried out the Soleimani strike, Iran's terror network was intact. Right. The Hamas was strong. Hezbollah had thousands of rockets. All the militias in Iraq were in str strength.

The Houthis were strong. They they had their ally Syria in power in power. They've lost all of that. Uh Hamas is decimated, Hezbollah is gone, the the Syria is now in in is in the hands of a regime that's not a great regime, but they are allowing their airspace to be used to try to strike down Iranian missiles. Their terror network's been dismantled.

They've never been weaker. Right?

So, another reason not to be worried about retaliation. And they're literally on the precipice of losing power, the Iranians. And so they better be very, very careful in terms of how they handle this. And Trump pummeled the Houthis for a month. And they're in bad shape.

So all this is bluster from the Iranians. And look, I think anyone who thinks that Donald Trump, the guy who killed Qasem Soleimani, is going to be intimidated into not Taking out Fordo doesn't understand Donald Trump. I think this is a guy, this is the guy who bombed Syria twice, who took out Soleimani, who launched a cyber attack on Russia, who killed hundreds of Wagner fighters in Syria when they were threatening our troops. I mean, this guy is not, he who destroyed the ISIS caliphate and killed Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, who died like a dog, as he said. This guy's not an isolationist and he's not afraid.

So, you know, I have total confidence that Donald Trump is going to finish this operation. Right. I think it's going to be the next couple of days, too. Mark, I just don't want to see talks. Unless they say we're dismantling, you have 24 hours, send in the inspectors.

I still would be hesitant on that. But I don't want to see talks. We are done. We blow it up from within or we blow it up from the sky. Those are your two options.

Which do you want? Mark Thiessen, that could be a great headline for your next column, but you have to make your own decisions. Mark Thiessen, thanks so much. Thanks, Brian. Back in a moment.

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Democratic Party has been the most effective political party in the history of the world. It started Social Security, it bought civil rights, it bought women's rights, it bought gay rights. It bought the last party to bring a balanced budget to the United States of America.

Okay, it shepherded the United States through the greatest age of prosperity it ever had. The 90s, the Democratic Party really does not need me to defend it. It has a record. As good as you can imagine, it's in a depression. In the past that was on Will Kane, James Carville, but not now.

And it Barack Obama said the same thing, and Rahm Emanuel said the same thing as what Will was just saying in that interview yesterday on Fox News channel, is that they're in total disarray. This guy, Dan Martin, is one calamity after another. Do you hear him whining over to To David Hogg about how he's getting all that publicity, and he's the chairman and can't raise any money, and nobody knows who he is. He can't raise any money from billionaires who aren't speaking to each other.

So they are an absolute mess. Barack Obama says, well, look out. The President Trump is going to form a dictatorship. If you don't watch now, democracy is going to imbalance. No, he's trying to do something Joe Biden would bring law and order to the streets, seal our border, get out of legal elements, 660,000 strong, crack down on these sanctuary cities.

You call that a dictatorship? I call that a policy. And the thing is, too, you might say, well, Trump's cracking down on the law firms and he's going after people and firing people in the White House and the infrastructure and the bureaucracy. Yeah, because they all turned on him last time. And he's going to make sure that he has people on his team not working against him.

He's not taking any chances. And he's taking numbers to those law firms that went out of their way to make his life miserable and tried to put him in jail. I 100% agree with that. It's also allowing him to do his job. Brett Baer next.

The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead. Does that mean you haven't made a decision yet on what to do? I have ideas as to what to do, but I haven't read a final. I like to make the final decision one second before it's due.

Because things change. I mean, especially with war. Things change with war. It can go from one extreme to the other. You know, at a time in which there's a lot of big decisions to make, Trump doesn't knuckle under and the President's putting a lid down early.

He talked to the p press twice yesterday, at his in the Oval Office, brought him in, and then he's when he had his flag poll, pulled money out of his pocket to put a flag poll at the White House. Said, yeah, okay, here's the flagpole. Here's the ceremony.

Now take some questions. I mean, at one point, even the press that is so critical has to be looking at each other and saying, man, he's made my job so much more interesting. I actually have something to say when I get on set instead of an unnamed source who might have access to a president who might or might not be mentally deficient. Brett Baer joins us now, Chief Political Anchor of Fox News, Anchor of Special Report. Brett, welcome back.

Hey, Brian. Also author of a a new book about to come out, right, Brett? Yeah, coming out in October, to Russia the American Spirit. All right. Teddy Roosevelt and the birth of a superpower.

You know something about this. Yes. I just got my soft copy, my uncorrected proof with all the misspellings and the expletives. Yes, we'll try to correct that. Yes, if you don't mind.

So Brett, first off, the President's got a big decision to make. Wall Street Journal says he's made it already. He knows what the operation will look like, but he hasn't made the decision whether to do it or not. Yes, I think there's a nuance there. I mean, I think that the wheels are in motion.

I think he is giving one more shot to the Supreme Leader in Iran to capitulate. I think when he says unconditional surrender, that's what he means. I think a dismantling of the nuclear program is what they're looking for, and that likely is not going to happen. And the Iranians are saying it's not going to happen.

So I do believe that the wheels are in motion and that you know, if I had to had to bet, they'd probably move forward with this um strike on the on the nuclear sides. And what about the fi they hit the hospital last night. There'd been less uh rockets than the previous nights, but last night they hit a hospital. You know, these aren't the dumb bombs coming from Hamas, where they're just trying to get into a city. These are targeted.

Now, I don't know if he was aiming for a hospital, but they hit it. 80 plus hurt. And if you look at the Prime Minister who was down at the hospital this morning, a couple of hours ago, this is serious stuff. And he says basically the Ayatollah is open for assassination. Yeah.

I I I agree with um They they're they're gonna step up their retaliation, Israel is to that strike. The Israelis are saying that they're Spotting these missiles with cluster bombs on the tips, in other words, to create more civilian casualties. And Yeah.

So I think the response to that is going to be greater. I think they do know where the Supreme Leader is, so I wouldn't be surprised. I think we reported that President Trump. was against a takeout of the Supreme Leader at one time. But PB Netanyahu has his own military and his own operations, so you have to see.

Senator Richard Blumenthal, who's trying to act a little like Joe Lieberman, appearing a lot with Senator Lindsey Graham of late, could not help but be partisan here, unless you feel as though he speaks for more of the Democratic Party, Cut Seven. I have no sense, no confidence. that we have adequately prepared U. S. personnel in the region for the ramifications of a strike.

Really? I mean, with his military contacts, I think he's on armed services. Uh he really thinks as though our troops are not ready? Yes, I don't know about that. I mean, I think that they are ready.

They've CENCOM is moving more forces into the region. Obviously, they've got a number of different destroyers. They're getting another carrier group there. I think they're ready. They're on high alert.

CENCOM has said as much. I think what he's talking about is ready for what comes next as far as. uh if there is regime change or an effort to change uh how what that looks like and um You know, I think there's a plan probably for everything, Brian. Uh, I would hope so. But I would think that on the military side, that the people he talks to, he he knows the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, whatever they think of the staff, I can't believe he doesn't think it through.

How real do you think that Tulsi Gabbard of fracture is within the administration. We've only had one exit, and it was Mike Waltz, I think one of the most competent people in Washington, and he's going to be hopefully UN ambassador soon. Would your thoughts on what is gossip and what is real? By the way, the Mike Waltz thing is really interesting because he was getting the Washington Post and others did detailed stories how he had talked to the Israelis in depth about efforts should an Iran strike happen. And here we are.

It is exactly what um he had talked about with the Israelis. The Tulsa Gabber thing is real, I think, from everything I hear. There is a There is a split, and whether that leads to some change, I don't know, but There is not a You know, she wasn't invited to Camp David. She had National Guard duty. But.

She's been in every meeting since.

So we'll see where this goes. I would say this, this what I also heard. is that she's been giving the briefings to the President, and the President likes them. And in fact, on basically, if you look at the numbers of briefings that Joe Biden sat down and took, Trump's ahead of that. And you know, he doesn't love the briefings.

He never did. He's like, hey, just give it to the vice president, give it to Mike Pence, give it to JD. But now, Tulsi Gabbard, they've connected in that way.

So that would push back against it. But what he didn't like was the tape that was put out, basically saying that there's no proof that Iran is weaponizing uranium, which is counter to what he's been getting and what the IAEA put out about what they were doing.

So I don't know what was behind that. I asked Netanyahu about that specifically on that interview over the weekend. you know, remember that briefing up on Capitol Hill was in March. They believe that they saw movement, and he was very confident that the intelligence was strong, and he shared it with the U. S.

in recent weeks that there had been movement towards uh weaponization So we're talking to Brett Baer. Brett, how would you characterize the Prime Minister you spoke to as opposed to the one you talked to prior to the October 7th attacks? Much more resolute about what's Happening and the existential threat that Iran faith. poses to Israel. I think they're fully committed.

They probably had a plan to be fully committed, but they're 100% in. I also think they feel like they have a strategic advantage. I mean, they've taken out a lot of air defenses. They own the skies. They have A path to Tehran, and they also have a lot of people on the ground who've done a number of things.

that have been covert and have changed the dynamic.

So, yeah, I mean, what they've done already is historic. The other story is, and just want to get your take, on the surrogates who have been basically the cone of resistance. the axis of resistance of Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis Uh Islamic jihad. Not really doing anything that we could tell going to the aid of Iran. There's a myriad of reasons why.

Could one of the reasons be they're seeing that Iran is getting. getting their head handed to them. Could be. I mean, there's a psychological part of that. It's also they're diminished.

I mean, the Pager attack, the walkie talkie attack really took out Hamas leadership. I mean, Hezbollah leadership. Hamas obviously has been under attack in Gaza and their leadership has been diminished. And then the Hooties, we had eighty days Of strikes against the Houthis, and the Israelis have taken out leadership.

So, you know, all of those proxies are weakened significantly, and I think that is part of the reason why there's quiet. Just real quick, I've asked this to Mark Thiessen too, but just your take on how real the fracture is within President Trump's biggest supporters about him taking action, possibly taking action. But we're already taking action, helping out the Israelis, but taking offensive action should have come to place. How worried do you think Trump is, and how real is the fracture in the base that people bring up? I don't think Trump is that worried.

I do think that the fracture is real in some corners of MAGA world.

However, if you ask the question, is Iran with a nuclear bomb a threat to the U. S., it's like eighty twenty. 9010. that that is a problem.

So if you get from point A to point B, you can see that on that issue they seem united, which is why the President has said for a long time, for years actually, Iran cannot get a nuclear bomb. You know, I think when you start talking more about what it looks like long term, is the U.S. going to get drawn into a long war, et cetera, et cetera, then there's a real split about how much the U.S. should be involved. Lastly, and I think it works to the bill's advantage.

The big, beautiful bill, they're working its way through the Senate. They've got a two-week window to get it done and get it back to the House by the self-imposed deadline of the July 4th weekend. Senator Ron Johnson, a critic, but he's a critic I think is productive. He says, I want to make it better. I'm not going to sit on the sidelines and say, no, I'm not going to be a vote for it.

He weighed in last night on where the bill is at, Cut 32.

Well, no, we have to prevent a massive automatic tax increase. No doubt about it. I support that. I'd do that as a standalone bill if I had my option. Yeah, we're not going to default on our debt.

We'll never default on our debt. That's a scare tactic. I know the President hates the debt ceiling. It's the only leverage we have to try and rein in spending.

So again, what my report shows is Yes, we need economic growth, no doubt about it. I'm not sure how much economic growth you're going to spur by just maintaining the status quo.

So he wants more cuts. He wants to go back to the spending levels prior to the pandemic, but I just don't see where it comes from. Yeah. Listen, the th the biggest driver is going to be to prevent the tax increase. on everybody.

And Republicans know that, Democrats know that, there's not going to be Democratic votes for it. Maybe you get Fetterman, who knows? But I I think that In the end, Republicans are going to rally around this and say, you know, with statement after statement, we need to find more cuts. You know, we've talked many times about we're one election away from solving the big issues. At some point, we have to turn the national debt deficit issue around.

I just had Ken Land going on the other night. He's really worried about it. This bill is not going to do it. It may start in some ways. But there's got to be some more cutting big time.

So I just knowing the big thing, I think immigration reform is now that this election, within this election, can happen because the border extraordinarily is sealed. I can't believe we're saying that, but it's beyond dispute. It is sealed. Literally, nobody came in last month, and only 50 tried.

So, what the hell is going on? We never thought this was possible.

So, what is your read on is the president. backing off going into the hospitalities and the farms and the race tracks to get out illegal immigrants who are not committing crimes. Is he going to back off that? Because he indicated to me he was, but yet it doesn't seem like they are. What are you hearing?

I think he is. I'm going to back off a little bit. I think that But but it's up in you know, at the same time, you have people like Stephen Miller and others pressing ICE and pressing Tom Holman to increase. Deportations. Remember, historically, you know, Barack Obama had more deportations than President Trump at this point.

And he, you know, so they're trying to step up the numbers. but also not cause major disruption. I think that they're going to start with the criminals first. and go from there. I think it's an evolving thing.

The President got very upset about polling that shows that tick down on how immigration is handled. The border, if you ask that question, is a high approval for the President because, as you said, he shut it down. I think that the images of You know, the National Guard and all of that has contributed to some slippage of polling in some corners. Yeah, I just hope, you know, I don't think it helps him to go to Farms and Gut People. I think there's something there for work visas with the owners or employers vouching for the quality of these characters and never give them, you never want to give citizenship.

You can never reward bad behavior. I got it. But we're at the point now where we might be able to get bipartisan support for not anyone who came during the Biden years. President said that's off the table, but people have been here 10 years or more. I'm wondering how that'll play.

And everyone always would say, well, unless you got to seal the border first.

Well, it is. It's sealed. And they're going to have more money to build a wall. Going to be interesting, Brett. That could be the next big thing.

And that may be Social Security. Yeah, it could be. And you gotta eventually you've gotta start. changing those programs because the trustees just yesterday moved it from twenty thirty six to twenty thirty three, that those programs become insolvent. That's a big, big deal.

Go get him, Brett Baer. Thanks so much. I know I wore you out, but don't peek on the Brian Kimmley radio show. You have to pace yourself. Right now, Eric, do you have anything?

No?

Okay. I thought he was. I'll save it for my show.

Okay, good. All right, Brett Baer, thanks so much. Back in a moment. Diving deep into today's top stories, it's Brian Kilmead. The talk show that's getting you talking.

You're with Brian Kilmead. I mean, is that displacement? I think it is. Oh, and Marie. Marina Mabry's gonna get ejected.

If the officials saw that, Marina Mabory is going to get ejected. Oh, they're gonna go and look at it. Look at she's always in the mix. There's a lot of contact here. Uh that is a little uh the Caitlin uh Of the Caitlin Clark controversy.

She was hit again. Press conference after they beating the heck out of her. This is the second year. Don't tell me it's rookie initiation. She is the golden goose.

And I'm not sure why everyone is so jealous. But on the one way, it's actually helping the league because if she was just scoring 22 points with five assists and six rebounds, we wouldn't probably be talking about it. The numbers would be better. The jersey sales would be great. But the fact that there's controversy gets people talking about it.

Joe on Long Island. Hey, Joe. Brian, Ozanon, and good morning. Listen, you know I'm out your MAGA. The Republicans have to pass this bill.

They're done. Brian, I'm out here on Long Island. The illegals are taking the jobs. There's not this economy's not booming. America's first agenda is done.

New York needs to salt. They have to understand that. They're going to lose these two seats, one and two, Congress, and America first. Trump's agenda is done if they lose the House.

Well, what do I say?

So, what do you want to see? Do you want to see the bill passed or not? It has to be. You kidding me? All right.

All right, Rich. I got you, Joe. Rich in Dallas. Hey, Rich. Hey, Brian.

Long time caller, first time listener. I want to throw a wrench into gear on all these politics and stuff going on. Let me ask you a question. Do you think a person that took the oath, went into the military service and served seven years in the Army Reserves, do you think they should be allowed to have benefits? Yeah, I would.

I mean, I know they got to wait 20 years for lifetime benefits, but I would love to get them. I'd love to get those benefits to carry on. That would be great. And of course, that's something to be discussed. It's a huge part of the budget.

Do you want to spend a lot of the budget on benefits for the men and women who serve? Theoretically, yes, but at what cost? Because there's only so much money, and we're looking at a small portion of the general budget now going to non-discretionary spending. And that fits in with defense. By the way, I want to see you in person.

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From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Killmead. All right, everyone.

So glad you're here. It's Consequential Day, big time week, as we get closer and closer to the 4th of July and the deadline for the big beautiful bill to get through the Senate. Will it? I will say Congressman Darrell Issa, bottom of the hour, experienced guy from the House, also bringing us insight what's happening in Los Angeles, Southern California, and the Governor Newsom trying the best to get the National Guard out of his city because he couldn't control his city. Jennifer Griffin standing by too, Fox News chief, national security correspondent.

Are we ready or not? Do we have the assets or don't we in the region to pull off a bunker buster strike inside Iran? Let's get to the big three. Number three. President Biden said that he needed Congress to act for him to secure the border.

But yet, we just saw this month that reports came out that not one single illegal alien that tried to get on our come across our southern border was released into the United States. That is Senator Markway Mohan. Immigration. The border is actually sealed. First time in my lifetime, probably yours.

Now, time to fix the rest. Number 10. Democracy is not self-executed. It it it requires people to uphold the Constitution. When that isn't happening, we start drifting into something that is not consistent with American democracy.

Not sure what he's getting at, but it just underlines the Dems being in disarray and the complaints are coming from the left, by the left. We bring you inside the story of the infighting that could keep the House in GOP hands. Number One. I have ideas as to what to do, but I haven't made a final. I like to make the final decision one second before it's due, you know, because things change.

I mean, especially with war. Things change with war. It can go from. One extreme to the other. And there he is, the President of the United States yesterday, Willie or Wooney.

I don't think he's met with the press yet today. President Trump knows the attack plan, according to the Wall Street Journal. The thing is, will he decide to do it? What would be the objective? And what are the risks?

Let's bring that all to Jennifer Griffin, who has been a part of military actions and reporting on them for decades. I'm not saying you're old, Jennifer. I'm just saying you're experienced. I am a little bit old, actually. And this is this last week is making me older.

Oh, my goodness. And you know, it is for someone like you who knows that Iran has been a problem, an issue, a challenge for so many different Um for so many different Administrations, what are your thoughts now that this battle could be days away? With the strike. I think what's really interesting, Brian, you mentioned how long Iran has been a problem. It's been a problem since 1979.

And look at the U.S. aircraft carrier that is now steaming its way from the Pacific to the Middle East. It's the USS Nimitz. That USS Nimitz, which is going to be decommissioned next year, it was the aircraft carrier that when the U.S. military launched an attempt to rescue those hostages in Tehran in 1979, it was the aircraft carrier that they launched from.

So we are talking about decades of history of an unresolved issue with a regime that has threatened not just Americans, but also, of course, Israel. In terms of the U.S. military and the decision-making right now at the White House, the President, it's clear from my reading of the tea leaf, he approved the operation in general that would set up U.S. military assets, and it takes some time to get them into place, U.S. military assets to strike the Fordo underground.

Nuclear enrichment site. That's the main nuclear enrichment site that is 300 feet underground at least in that mountain south of Tehran. Only the B-2 bomber, which only the U.S. military has, which is based at Whiteman Air Force Base in Missouri, and the massive ordnance penetrators, the MOP bombs, or 30,000-pound massive ordnance penetrators, these are bunker busters that can go at least 200 feet into underground.

So the president now has a decision in terms of giving the final order, and that is what he is weighing right now. He's approved the operation. You can see that because you had dozens of air refueling planes move into Europe and into the Middle East. We saw those on flight trackers. We know that the F-22s, Raptors, that they took off from Langley Air Force Base yesterday, dozens of those to the Middle East to be based there.

They have ramped up in terms of. Sending an extra aircraft carrier. That will be a few more days before that carrier is in position. They have the Fifth Fleet, which is based in Bahrain, has sent all of its naval warships out to sea to protect them.

So we're seeing everything move into position, but the President has the final decision whether to give the order for those B-2s to take off from Whiteman Air Force Base. And that, we understand, has not been decided yet. The President will meet with his National Security Council in about 15 minutes at the White House in the situation room. That is for the second day in a row that he's meeting with his national security advisors. He wants, you know, this is not an easy decision.

Tactically, the U.S. military can very easily carry out this mission. Those B-2s and that 30,000-pound bunker buster bomb, they can strike at a pinpoint target and, you know, can they take out the whole underground complex? Not clear, but they certainly can destroy. Much of it.

So, the tactical part of this is easy. The question always in launching military strikes, particularly against another country that you're not at war with, is what comes next. And what I've seen from watching the Israeli operation for the last week is that there seems to be a little bit of mission creep. The goal of taking out Iran's nuclear program and ballistic missile sites, that they are accomplishing on a daily basis. We were told from the beginning it would be about a two-week mission, but now we hear the defense.

Minister of Israel talking about targeting the supreme leader, Ali Khamenei, the Top leader of Iran. And that starts to move into regime change territory.

So, does the U.S. get involved with that? Obviously, there's a lot of reticence on the part of really every American to get involved with another open-ended conflict in the Middle East that involves regime change. I think the bombing of the hospital last night, knowing that these can be somewhat precise, the rockets that there's the missiles that they're sending over, make them think, and that gave the defense minister the statement I'll just paraphrase, saying he cannot exist, meaning the Grand Ayatollah. And I do think take them at their word that they know where he is.

I think that is a fair assessment. And I think but as we know, it's sometimes, I mean, look, the Israelis, what they have done in the first 24 hours and in the days since of that operation, the incredible ability to get behind enemy lines, to have people on the ground, those drones that were secretly positioned inside Iran that launched on the first night, it reminded me of the Ukrainians and what they did in Russia just three weeks ago. Extraordinary ingenuity and precision. I think I've talked to, in fact, one of the pilots from 1981, the F-16 Israeli pilot who took out the Osirak reactor in Iraq. I've been speaking to him a lot, and he is one of the architects of the Irani, the Israeli plan to take out Iran's nuclear program.

And he, even he, is in awe of what the Israeli military was able to do. accomplish in the first 24 hours.

So my sense is, number one, The Fordo bombing, if the bunker busters take place, is it true that it's true they have never been used before, correct? This is the largest bomb short of nuclear, never been used before. It will be never been used in combat. Yes, they've been tested as recently as last year, I'm told. But they are built to strike about 200 feet underground.

Now, the way they work is that a B-2 carries two of them, and so you strike once with one bomb, that kind of opens a cavity, and then the second bomb they hope to guide right through that same cavity and get deeper underground and a large explosion. It has not been used in combat before, and so there are questions about how deep does it actually go. I mean, those mountains, the mountain at Fordo, where this is based, I mean, we don't know. We've heard estimates that the facility is 300 feet underground. The bomb is estimated to go 200 feet underground.

That's 100 feet short. But there are some unknowns, and there are some. There is a lot of confidence, I would say, at the top chain of the U.S. military chain that the bunker buster, this mop bomb, could take care of the Fordo complex.

So they are feeling very confident. But again, it's always about what comes next.

So I know that they always do the worst case scenarios. They say, okay, we pull off the bombing, it happens, they surrender. That's one. Number two is they're going to look to retaliate. I just want you to hear what their foreign minister said, and a warning, the deputy foreign minister said, and a warning to us, cut to.

Number two. If the Americans Decide. to get involved militarily. We have no choice. But to Uh retaliate?

Wherever we find the targets necessary to be acted upon.

So that is that is clear and simple. Because we are we are acting in self-defense.

So they said we will retaliate. If you're in the Pentagon or you're in the situation room, what are you ready? What does that mean to you? And who should be on alert? And where are they located?

Well, let's remember what the U.S. has. The U.S. is very exposed in the Middle East. You have 40,000 U.S.

troops in the Middle East right now at bases across the Middle East. You have very static air bases in the UAE, in Qatar, and then you have the Navy base in Bahrain. Those are three bases that are very vulnerable to strikes from the Iranian missiles. They certainly would be trained on those sites. We have some air defense systems.

We certainly would have beefed up the air defense, but air defense is never perfect. As we see with Israel, all it takes is one ballistic missile to get through that air defense. You also have the Iranians. I mean, I've talked to CENTCOM planners for years about this operation, and what they anticipate is that the Iranians would then mine the Strait of Hormuz. The U.S.

Navy could then demine it, but that will take about a week. In the meantime, do the Iranians get off a a lucky shot and strike a US aircraft carrier, for instance, or a we saw how the Houthis, you know, they didn't get lucky, but they got awfully close in the Red Sea, and that was just the Houthis.

So I would say that there is a grave concern. You also have troops in Syria at small outposts. You have troops based in Iraq. And they are very, very vulnerable. And the U.S.

military knows that.

Now, they've taken, you know, they've tried to mitigate some of that. You also have embassies across the Middle East. Let's not forget that the Iranians usually act in an asymmetric manner when it comes to taking on the United States. Once the U.S. takes the decision to bomb Iran, then all bets are off in terms of potential terror cells, assassinations.

Now, Iran is a bit on its heels right now, also, because of the Israelis after over a week of bombing and precision strikes. But they still are not out of cards. Their cards are at the lower level. The U.S. and the Israelis have cards in terms of the escalation ladder.

They are still much, much more capable. And without the Iranians, also will be crazy to bring the U.S. into a broader war. They know that the U.S. has many, many capabilities that they don't.

And so, you know, there is a bit of bluffing going on as well. But I still think you can't rule out that proxies or or missiles could could cause the U. S. military some trouble. Lastly, Jennifer, what do we know about how much the Iranian people dislike their government?

And if they are wounded, might this be the opportunity for police just to let the riots happen or let the prisons empty?

Well, I think this is another unknown. I think that the Iranian regime is extremely unpopular. They controlled, until recently, the state security apparatus, so there's a great deal of fear inside of Iran. But that fear, if you start, if you hit a tipping point, and we always, you know, we've seen in other countries, whoever thought that Syria overnight would suddenly be free of Bashar Assad and have a new government and be moving forward. These things have a, they can turn on a dime.

And so I think what the Israelis are seeing, and the Israelis have excellent intelligence, they're seeing that they're at a tipping point and that that's why perhaps they're now talking about targeting the supreme leader and hope and trying to push the Iranian people to overthrow their government. The question there again is what comes next? We saw in Libya, what came next was not exactly better than Qaddafi. It's easy to overthrow. Through a government, but it's not always easy to regain control once you do so.

I thought the best line was: you know, you prefer the devil you know to the devil you don't know. The question is: the one thing we all agree on, this devil is pretty bad. It's pretty bad. And I can see the temptation on the part of the Israelis to, I mean, look, everyone doubted the Israelis when it came to Nasrallah, when it came to Hezbollah, when it came to their taking out the leadership of Hezbollah and Hamas. But I think we look back in hindsight, just like we look back when the Israelis took out the Iraqi and the Syrian nuclear reactors.

You sort of say thank you afterwards.

So it's a really tough moment of decision-making for the U.S. government in particular. Absolutely. They did the West a huge favor for what they did and allowed Assad to be ousted in Syria, at least the potential for somewhat of a friendlier regime with all the problems that they have, at least friendly to us. Jennifer, it's an exciting, interesting time.

Nobody better to talk to. Thank you so much. Thank you. You got it. Listen, when we come back, be able to squeeze in some calls: 1-866-408-7669.

And then out from California in studio, Congressman Darrell Issa, don't move. Coming to you on a need-to-know basis, because man, do you need to know? It's Brian Kilmead. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Kilmeade.

It was the Autopin presidency. a government run by committee rather than a leader chosen by the American people. By contrast, love him or hate him? We all know President Trump is in command of his presidency. And he is the one calling the shots.

But regardless, the box buck stops with the President. And President Bush. Biden will have to answer to history for what's happened the last four years. Under the Biden White House, The ceremonial song Hail to the Chief. was effectively replaced with Hail to the Pen.

And it was an outright assault on democracy. That is a little some of the hearing yesterday as we try to find out who was really running the government the last four years and some of the horrible decisions they made. Hey, Tim, you're in Ohio. What's on your mind, Tim? Hey, Brian, how are you doing?

Longtime listener, first time caller. Great, and I hope to see you Saturday night of History of Liberty and Laughs, Dayton, Ohio. I am in, I'll be in the balcony to your left. I'm in the first row, and I will be dressed in full George Washington regalia. All right.

And I'll be waving out to you, but I'll be in the front row. All right. It's going to be a patriotic night. You will definitely stand out, Tim. What's on your mind?

So looking forward to it.

Okay. So we'll see if we have a war to discuss that's amped up with our direct involvement or we stay in the defensive posture. I look forward to that Saturday night. By the way, that is at the Victoria Theater in Dayton, Ohio. WHIO Listeners know it well.

And then, of course, on the 23rd in Dallas, Texas, and then on the 27th in Richmond, Virginia, on BrianKillme.com. That's going to be fun. But we'll also be talking about what's happening here and also immigration. We have not discussed this much now. But percolating underneath, I'm sure this weekend will be back to some unrest and anti-Trump protests over the weekend, which is fine.

Uh if it stays calm. If it's like Aurora, Colorado and TDA is back, expect a crackdown if they won't crack down themselves. In Los Angeles, you start burning things, going after ice, expect those National Guard troops to stay there. I think Chicago and Boston could be next. But the border is sealed.

I think it's time for the President to come out and say everybody in the farms, the racetracks, that check out, that don't have criminal records, that the your boss, your employer, will vouch for you. I think you get to stay. What do you think about that? Daryl Ice is next. Congressman will be in studio.

Don't move, you listen to the Brian Kill Me Show. Information you want, truth you demand. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. Lanasud Kramp, I wish to thank President Trump, a great friend of the state of Israel. I thank him for standing by us, and I thank him for the support the United States is providing us in defending Israel's skies.

And that was Prime Minister Netyahu last night. This morning, he got up and was in front of a hospital because the Iranians had targeted a hospital and wounded over 80 people. But the number of rockets coming in has lessened significantly, and the launchers, they're down between a half and 75%. They get him down to zero. It is going to be wide open and Israel be protected.

Will he get to that? With us right now in studio is California Congressman Darrell Issa from the 48th District. On the House Judiciary Committee and Vice Chair of Foreign Affairs, who also served time in the military. Congressman, welcome back. Your thoughts about where we're at right now in this conflict.

The President evidently knows the battle plan, is comfortable with it. He's just got to decide if he wants to drop the bombs. Absolutely. He has to decide can he get a negotiation to a change in the regime that is really permanent? And I'm not talking about a change of leadership, I'm talking about a change of direction.

If they're willing to empty out Th those uh nuclear development far underground. With international observers, great. If they want to say, well, you know, we're going to take a pause. They've said it before, they've never done it. The same thing goes.

If they understand that we're happy to see Israel do a ceasefire when we know that they are not building new rockets to attack Israel, until then, Israel has to keep doing what it's doing on the conventional side, and we have to have the stick Yeah. Will hit that site if they will not capitulate on dismantling it.

So we keep hearing that there are some forces on the Iranian side, some They want to talk. There are some people on the right hand side that want to talk. The Grand Ayatollah just giving rhetoric out, bluster and rhetoric from wherever he is. Right. Which I hear he moved to a safe location outside the capital, but I'm sure the Israelis know exactly where he is.

So. I think we're past the point of talking. Do you say something to the effect of thirty six hours? I need you to allow full access to all this and we're going to blow it up. It's going to be destroyed.

Or we're going to do it without your permission. But do you give a time limit on it? This is going to be a war of six to twelve to eighteen days. This is not going to be a year and beyond. What Israel has already done and what they have left to do, they are going to be done dismantling the ability for Iran to fire missiles at them indiscriminately, their ability to produce, not just for themselves but for Russia, those weapons, those drones that have been hitting so many people and killing so many.

What has to happen is they have to understand time is not on their side. Yes, we can negotiate like there's no war, but Israel, rightfully so, will fight this war like there's no negotiation until or unless there is a deal that is verifiable, quick and permanent.

So there's a report now out of the Daily Telegraph that there were three separate flights, Chinese flights. Uh into Iran, and they put them down as destination. They file their plan to destination Luxembourg, but they don't get there. They go through Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, and their 747-sized planes that could carry weapons. Here's the quote: Aviation experts have noted that the type of plane used, the Boeing 747, are commonly used for transporting military equipment weapons and hired to fly government contract orders.

What should we do about this? we may have to assist Israel in taking those out. And whether they're taken out in the air or they're taken out the moment they land, we do have eyes on every part of Iran. And with Our support, Israel can be ready to strike and should. Resupply through with the Russian surrogates cannot be tolerated.

Resupply of Iran at this point cannot be tolerated. And if China and Russia want to help Iran, they have to understand they China depends on the oil from Iran. We could have allowed Israel to shut that off. We could have intercepted the ships leaving Iran. We haven't done that, but that's another piece of real leverage we have.

Have the Israelis done damage to the energy sector, non-nuclear energy sector in Iran? Israel has been very restrained in the damage to anything but military targets and key military personnel. That doesn't have to be that way. They could easily hit their ports that allow them to export. And if necessary, they could hit further strikes.

I recommend that they not do it because the high ground that Israel has used of targeting very, very much military targets, minimizing collateral loss of life to innocent Iranians, is very commendable. Here's Robert Greenway last night. He's the former senior director for Trump at the National Security Council, Qat 9. It's important to remember what the relationship is. 43% of China's oil and gas come from the Middle East, a large volume of that from Iran.

It likes to buy sanctioned oil below market value, and that fuels the Chinese economy and also its military ambitions. And so that's the central relationship. They've been relatively quiet, in fact, extremely quiet, about the current conflict and coming to Iran's assistance. We also know that a large fire in Bandurbas port was Chinese solid propellant for missiles that exploded and created a tremendous amount of damage just about a month ago. I think it's unlikely to see Chinese armed shipments under the circumstances to Iran.

It's more likely that Iran may be removing material or personnel or regime valuables to safe haven in light of the conflict. I think that's probably the extent to which China is willing to accept the risk associated with the current circumstances. How do you feel about that theory? It's a good theory that uh the planes that came in went out with valuable cargo, which could include some of the most valuable personnel uh fleeing to a safe zone. I'm looking at some of this video over the last day or two of people protesting against Israel for Iran.

They are chanting for Iran by the thousands in New York. I don't know what the story is in Los Angeles, but I would imagine where's this coming from? I told you ten years, twenty years, let alone right after the hostages were taken, what is laudable about Iran? I mean, how does that How does, you know, having a heart for the Palestinians, how does that shake into this terrible regime that the people of Iran hate? How do Americans rally to their side?

Brian, some people just hate America, and you see it sometimes. But let's talk about who's not in that crowd. Iranian Americans are not in that crowd. The people who know and who have fled, the people who understand that that regime has killed their relatives and imprisoned a country of 91 million people. The reality is, who's not there tells us a lot.

And the fact is, many of those people are the same ones that are anti-Israel, anti-Semitic, time and time again. Oh. I'm an American, born and raised here, and served in the military here. I'll tell you, no American would accept what Israel has had to accept. For years, in the way of attacks on their personnel, on their people, on their innocence.

And so, if we simply put ourselves in their shoes, we will support Israel every time in what they're trying to do.

So, let's talk about immigration, which is so much a part of the California political scene. And we're seeing some of the unrest with these riots in Los Angeles. The mayor says the presence of the National Guard is making it worse. You're a Southern California guy. What do you think?

Look, Karen Bass was never willing to do real immigration reform that would help fix the problem. She sat by and was thrilled. She was the worst. She was the worst. She was a terrible congresswoman.

She was pretty damn marginal, to use a word. But The fact is, what she didn't do in Congress is what she won't do anywhere else, which is. Come to the table and realize that zero illegal and a guest worker program, zero illegal and a merit-based immigration program, which Republicans are willing to support overwhelmingly, but we don't have a Democrat on our side, and she was certainly not one of them. That's what we need. Trump is giving us the space to do it, but I would reach out to every one of my colleagues on both sides of the aisle and say, yeah, we need to do immigration reform, but we need to do it with a legal system that works for the employer, works for the immigrant, and protects people.

And by the way, protects the trade in fentanyl and other drugs from coming over the US.

So what do you take about? The president came out last Thursday and said, look, maybe we have to dial this back a little and say the hospitality and the farms, rural communities, where these people have been there forever. And if we throw them out, they're going to be replaced by other illegal immigrants. Maybe we should back off them a little bit. These are my words, but that's his sentiment.

But yet I haven't seen a hard policy. What are they saying in Republican circles?

Well, I can tell you, when you saw what governor, Governor Glenn Young showed, which was a targeted hit on MS-13, a targeted hit on the worst of the worst in Virginia, because he was working with the administration to target the bad people. That works in Virginia because you have that leadership. In California, where our governor is obstructing any kind of removal, even of these known criminals, Of course, there'll be collateral damage. There may be an MS-13 person hiding out somewhere around a whole bunch of people.

So they're all going. You might be a guest worker. The guy next to you is a TDA guy. You grab the TDA guy. Where's your documents?

I don't have them. You're gone too. And the answer would Karen Bass would say: leave them alone. No, you can't. Because you've got to round them up.

You're in the field. You don't know what's a security risk. You got to round them up and go. And then if their papers don't line up, there's no reason to keep them here. Absolutely.

And if community leaders, even ones who are undocumented here, if they're turning in these criminals and ICE is able to go in knowing exactly who they're going for and not have the risk of being shot or killed themselves, you better believe that's all they want. They want to get rid of these people who have been ordered, deported, or came here illegally and have committed crimes. And the president has made that clear, and I stand by his leadership. Just not my governors. Here's Mayor Wu, another just terrible liberal lawmaker, mayor of Boston, where she looks at ICE as the problem, Cut 24.

Too many communities have seen it happen right in their own neighborhoods where. Masked individuals who are not wearing Badges openly or identification are coming in unmarked vehicles, jumping out, snatching people off the streets. I'm just. Stating that these tactics are the opposite of what makes communities safer. She has spent a billion dollars in 2024 on illegal immigrants.

They've already spent $830 million this far. That's a cost of $3,500 per family, $1,000 per person per week. What is your answer to this type of idiocy? I mean, it it must be so frustrating. You know, it's amazing that you're entitled to say anything you want as an elected official, but you're not entitled to have people not realize how untrue it is.

What she just said was simply untrue. These arrests are being made subject to warrants and a vast amount of preparations. Investigations. Investigation. Do they come in in unmarked cars?

Sure. Yeah. Sometimes the lights are flashing by the time they get there. But sure, they come in, and they also come in trying to minimize their own threat of life and of those around us. But, you know, these are the same people.

These are the men in blue, except they're federal. And these people that are bashing the men in blue at a federal level, they're the same ones that don't support their law enforcement in Boston or in Los Angeles or in San Francisco and wanted to defund the police. This is just the next version of it. Right. It's just unbelievable that she's going to continue to, I guess, she's being challenged by Bob Craft's, I think, grandson or a relative who's going to be independent.

When you look at what's happened with Karen. Bass Democrat, Gavin Newsome, seven and a half years burying your state in red ink, in deficits, crime, homelessness. You once made sure through a recall that a Republican won as governor. His name was Arnold Schwarzenegger. I know he didn't do what you wanted him to do, but you saw it happen.

Is there a chance for a change in party leadership now? There is. And we could use an Arnold Schwarzenegger again. Yes, people, you know, had some problems. He wasn't, quote, You know, mega.

He had to do what was possible. But he did what was possible and he stood strong for a lot of things. And by the way, the lights didn't go out during his time. The gas tax didn't go up. There were a lot of things he did that I think he deserves the credit for.

And he cared enough to do it. He left aside an incredibly good life to serve in public office. And being loved to 50%, maybe 75% being against you.

Well exactly. You go from everyone loving you to you're lucky to get half on a good day. We could do it again. It's going to be hard. The numbers are hard.

But around the country, Democrat strongholds are going to see real challenges by people who like Governor Juncken, who want to use him again. But he won in Virginia by saying parents control their kids. And by the way, we want to make sure that schools are open. When he came in four years ago, he came in with a message that they needed to hear. They weren't hearing from the other party.

And supporting safe streets and parental rights and common sense absolutely is going to be. I know he left. He's technically not a Republican, but he was a Republican.

Well, look, I want a direction. Rudy Giuliani is a friend of mine. He took this state, this city, in another direction. Michael Bloomberg, who left the party, continued to do it. And for Five terms, New York got to be a pretty good place to be.

And then they took it to hell. And I don't care which party did it, it was the wrong direction.

So, you know, I don't care if Rick Caruso wants to call himself a libertarian or the man in the moon. If he's willing to bring common sense back to California, we need to get behind that person. And by the way, not beholding to the Democrat Party is the biggest problem because the extremists in the Democrat Party have made people I serve with that I know would like to do something different scared of their own shadow sometimes. Which is crazy. You got to be willing to lose an election to do the right thing.

Congressman Darrell Issa, thanks so much. Always great to have you in the studio. Thanks for having me on. And it brings us the West Coast perspective right here in New York. And then I go over to Washington to pass the Big Beautiful Bill.

Back in a moment. It's Brian Kilmead. From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Kilmead. You claim lethality is your top priority. Do you plan to unleash this lethal force against U.S.

citizens and civilians in LA and other cities?

Well, Senator, I would reject most of the characterization of that statement, including lethality against U.S. cities, when all of those National Guardsmen and Marines have conducted themselves with the utmost professionalism, defending our federal agents, Americans. We ought to be equally alarmed by the illegal use of Active duty. Marines or other military. I take it from your answer that you do have contingency plans for the use of Military in other cities?

We have never and will not illegally deploy troops. All have been under existing and well-established authorities to use troops to support federal law enforcement officers. Just as this was going back and forth, she treats him with no respect. And I give Pete so much credit for keeping his calm, keeping his head cool, because it was so insulting. And this Senator Rono is the biggest embarrassment.

Hawaii, I think we're on a station in Hawaii. We have to be able to do, you got to be able to do better than this. I mean, Tulsi Gabbard was a Democrat. You can't put somebody like that, just a level-headed person, who is just not an embarrassment to the country, let alone your state. To me, it's just absolutely insane what he had to digest from her yesterday.

Just so and by the way, the second one was Blumenthal. Anybody who thought that this guy, Blumenthal, was going to be fair and balanced because he was hanging out with Sir Linda Clindsey Grammar on some foreign policy pro-Ukraine, he was a little bit conservative. It's not happening. The Big Beautiful bill though, they say somewhat stalled in the Senate, which is uh disconcerting.

Now, if they're going to pass it and hand it over to the House, it's hard to imagine it getting there through by July 4th. Who knows? Maybe they could stay to July 5th. Maybe they could stay July 6th. I know it's a personal thing for a lot of people.

They want to be with their family. They want to be with their friends. But maybe you can get things done in time. Maybe you need that type of pressure. I think that's absolutely true.

The other thing was, we're about to find out if President Trump is going to pull the trigger because. The word is it was going to be Friday night, Eastern time. The decision has to be made now. Between the refueling that's got to take place somewhere in the middle of the ocean, it's a 30-hour flight. Uh by the B2s.

we're gonna have to see the commitment now.

So we'll have to see. If things are gonna change. And for us, for people that have been seeing Iran be a nemesis and killing Americans for about 40 years. I'd love to see a situation where they were no longer an enemy of the state, and unfortunately, they only understand. To fette, they only understand muscle.

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