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Visit Shopify.com to upgrade your selling today. Donald Trump is not an aberration. He is the logical, inevitable conclusion of an American political system dominated by corporate and dark money.
And if we are to defeat him, we must defeat the system that created it. Money in politics is the hand of oligarchy. Exactly.
As she hopped on her private jet and went home, unless, of course, the jet was being taken, she could go on first class and go home. Just every time you want to fight oligarchy, it's always good to show opulence. Tomi Lahren knows all about that. Host of Outkicks, Tomi Lahren is fearless. Fox News contributor who's going to be doing Outnumbered in 25 minutes, but is so loyal to the show. I'm honored, Tomi.
Great to see you. Tackle AOC's big worry that don't blame Donald Trump. He's just a symptom of the system that's sick.
The sick system. Listen, if you really believe in the oligarchy and politicians having too much money and too much power, you should be flying Spirit Airlines. Yeah, absolutely. And maybe not even Spirit.
Maybe you should be driving an electric vehicle, maybe not a Tesla, but maybe like a Prius. Then I believe that you're committed to the cause. But if you're just going like a rock star so you can assemble people because it makes you feel like you're somebody, that's what this all is. This just feeds their egos.
They love that they can get a lot of people to come see them. I believe that AOC has always wanted to just be famous. I don't think she has a carer concern about passing a bill. I don't believe she ever has. I don't think she has real carer concern about being a leader of the Democrat Party. I think she wants to be famous.
And this is her conduit to do it because she can't sing, she can't act. And so she's going to go into politics. You know, what's interesting is at first I thought that the worst thing that could happen to Democrats is for these two socialists to get big crowds because it's not doing it. Bernie Sanders getting a big crowd is not news.
His agenda doesn't fly. And then AOC to want to take up the mantle, I said to myself, that's probably great for news for Republicans. I think the best, the worst news for Republicans would be to have a candidate like Bill Maher, John Fetterman, Fetterman without his limitations, to go, you know what, I'm going to work with Trump when I can with what Whitmer said a couple of weeks ago.
I'll work with him when I can. And you know, before she covered her face and said, I'm embarrassed to be here. But and when I can, I'm going to I'm going to separate. I think that would be the scariest thing for Republicans. But Nate Silver and others are saying that she's going to emerge as the star on that on the left. Do you think so? No, I think that she's going to get crowds for them. But she's she doesn't have a legislative history. I guess you could say the Green New Deal was her brainchild. Yeah, like she wrote on a napkin as a bartender.
She's never done anything impressive. And Bernie has been warning about the oligarchy since before I was born. So the oligarchy that you're warning about still hasn't come to fruition at some point. You know, you're crying wolf.
You're crying Bigfoot here. But I think you're right. And I think that that Democrat is going to emerge. I think that that Democrat is waiting in the wings right now for the dust to settle. They're not going to come out too soon. They're not going to try to make a name for themselves now. They're going to wait until we get closer to midterms, maybe even closer to 2028. They're waiting back for all the crazies to dissipate. And it's not Gavin Newsom, the pick me.
Here's my podcast. It's not AOC. It's not Bernie Sanders. I don't think it's even Whitmore.
I don't think it's any of them. I think it's probably going to be more of a Westmore, a Shapiro, maybe a Bashir from Kentucky. All these other jokers right now are just trying to get attention and fame. Every time I bring up Governor Bashir and I say, well, these are moderate, I get ripped because I know where people just say, Brian, just look at what he's done. He is not a moderate.
Don't believe it. And then you see Bill Maher come out, essentially say with Governor Shapiro, he couldn't get him off his talking points on Bill Maher's show. So if this guy is still pumping out the talking points two years before he's running, I'm wondering where I mean, tragedy would happen with his family. I'm wondering where the natural politician is.
And people point to Westmore, but he's driving the Maryland economy into the into the ditch. Same thing, obviously, with Gavin Newsom. But Gavin Newsom feels icky when you listen to him. Some of these others don't feel icky for some people.
He was very talented. Yes. When you look at somebody that might be most of it is just somebody who feels calming. Let's remember people elected Joe Biden in 2020, who I believe was already cognitively slipping then there were signs, certainly signs way back then. I think that they're going to need somebody who's a stabilizing force, who appears more moderate, who appears to be more genuine. And those three at least fit that bill. They can work on, you know, their talking points. But I think that they are much more dangerous to the Republican cause an electoral victory than an AOC or a Bernie or some of these other outrageous Jasmine Crockett.
There's the ones that get media attention because they're interesting, but they're not moderate enough for most American people. It is time to take the quiz. It's five questions in less than five minutes. We asked people on the streets of New York City to play along. Let's see how you do. Take the quiz every day at the quiz dot Fox. Then come back here to see how you did.
Thank you for taking the quiz. And when I think Democrats have to do same as Republicans, J.D. Vance is not going to be anointed. People are upset that Trump didn't just say J.D. is my successor.
Why would he? I don't think there's even if he does a great job, fight it out. You know, let Rubio and J.D. Vance and whoever wants to emerge fight it out.
You can't put your hand on the scale. That's what Democrats have done for the last, what, eight years. They don't let they don't let these candidates get better by having a bad debate, a good debate, a good speech. They debate each other. Find out what Westmore's weakness is.
But don't look for Tomi Lahren to do it. But why don't you see if Governor Beshear has some problems with Westmore? Why don't you see if if AOC can try to, you know, to mark up Gavin Newsom? Can you imagine AOC in an actual primary debate, though?
I think that would be stunning to ask. You know why? Because we haven't seen any debate on the left. It is whatever Nancy Pelosi wants, whatever Chuck Schumer does. You don't see anyone pushing back. There's no Murkowski.
There's no Chip Roy. There's nobody people like pushing back against whatever the powers in their party want to be. I actually never seen AOC actually explain a policy position either.
We hear the oligarchy and all. We've heard all the taglines, but I've never heard her actually go deep into a policy or a position or be challenged. Has she ever put herself in a position to be challenged by anyone, Republican or Democrat? I don't think so.
I'd be curious to see how that would go. But you notice she's not talking squad. She's not because she wants to distance herself a little from the extreme. She's the Beyonce of the Destiny's Child. Let's be honest. She's still the squad, but she just wants to be the more famous member of the squad.
And some of them also lost their seat. So I don't know if she really wants to tie herself to them, but she wants to be the Beyonce. She wants to be famous.
That's what this is about for me. It's all about her. She's the Beyonce of the Destiny's Child. She's the Beyonce of the Destiny's Child. She's the Beyonce of the Destiny's Child. And she's the Beyonce of the Destiny's Child. She's the Beyonce of the Destiny's Child. I really don't think that she's a serious person. And she wants this because she wants to be a thought leader.
I think she wants to be famous. All right. So let's talk about what you're going to be talking about an outnumbered. I imagine it's going to be the lead. I was stunned to see Chris Van Hollen. Last night it came across that he got his meeting and he sits down with Kilmar Garcia, at which time he's finally going to be there.
But when he does a brief, a brief of a graph, I don't know what's going on there. One minute they're in white outfits. In prison. The next minute he's having a casual lunch with Senator Van Hollen. When you look at this guy's background. Tommy, do you think that they're going to continue to paint him as a hero that has to come home when he does beat his wife? When he is caught with the MS 13.
When gang experts who find him in the field, you see the police So if you are Van Halen, if you are Cory Booker, do you do this? Do you continue to fight for this? I think they've dug in so hard on this. They have no choice. I don't think they can backtrack at this point I don't think that they could lay off this and say all right, maybe this isn't our martyr I think they're so far deep that they just have to hope that there are American people watching MSNBC and CNN They really do believe this is just a Maryland father that was plucked off the street and disappeared They have to go the distance on this narrative because they can't turn back.
They're in too deep now, right? And you just see them being mocked by the president of El Salvador You know, it's just they're just mocking me saying you're you're you're this is a great quote from him. He says Kilmar Garcia miraculously risen from death camps in torture now sipping margaritas with senator Van Halen the tropical paradise of El Salvador He said now that he's confirmed healthy. He gets the honor of staying in El Salvador's custody So and then of course, there's a pushback from the house saying we're not gonna finance any type of move So he's mocking that he thinks this is comically stupid and it is comically stupid and the optics of that that photo that looked like an awkward date on The Bachelor is what that looked like it actually reminded me of the first interview that Kamala and Tim walls did where they were awkwardly sitting at that table how bad that looked that's what it looked like and it doesn't look good When you've got somebody sitting there with somebody who is an alleged gang member and also has protective orders from his wife that apparently wants him Back so badly. There's no way that this looks good.
If you're paying attention. All right, tommy laren's gonna be on the couch 15 minutes on outnumbered and you're gonna be wearing the same outfit, right? There's no costume changes Nope, this is the color wheel and this is what it's chosen for me today.
It was chosen by higher powers. Tommy. Thanks so much All right And where do we follow you on social media? At tommy laren the one and only the one with the blue checkmark don't follow the others that ask you for money from Nigeria Okay, true. Okay, dude, make sure you do that. And where do we find you on out kick your time out kick calm 1 p.m Eastern Monday through Friday. I'm Dana Perino this week on Perino on politics I'm joined by the founding partner at cavalry LLC and co-host of the ruthless podcast Josh Holmes Available now on foxnews podcast calm or wherever you get your favorite podcasts Listen to this show at free on Fox News podcast plus on Apple podcast Amazon music with your prime membership or subscribe wherever you get your podcasts
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