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I thought it was terrific. Really looked like they brought all the energy and enthusiasm, turned it into an electric atmosphere there, not just inside the area where the draft was being held, but outside on the streets, and the 275,000 fans, are you kidding? Man, the bar has been raised for next year, which I believe is Green Bay, if I remember correctly. So yes, do an NFC North tour these couple of years.

It's after hours with Amy Lawrence. Speaking of the NFC North, the Bears were on the clock first. The Vikings made a splash, as did the Falcons. Later this hour, you'll hear from Michael Penix. Kirk Cousins left the NFC North and somehow still ends up being in the center of all of this.

So there's plenty to talk about. Six QBs go in the top 12 and no defensive players for quite a while. It took a couple hours before we saw a defensive player come off the board. So what did you think of the draft that was spearheaded by local Detroit royalty, if you will?

You can find us on Twitter at Amy After Hours or on the Facebook page, and our phone number is 855-212-4227. Detroit had a Roger Goodell who was loose and who was using his comedic chops along with M&M. Hello Detroit.

No, that's not right. Welcome to the D. Nope. Come on, Roger. You okay, Commish? Nervous?

Nah, Barry. I'm just fired up. Let's sit on your sweater.

Mom's spaghetti. Why are you so wound up? Do you need a hug? Oh, we doing hugs? I'm ready, Commish. These guys are going to remember this night for the rest of their lives.

Yeah, not too much with their families, friends. No pressure, bro. Now, who is going to come out on stage with me? It should be Barry.

He's a Detroit goat. No, no, no, no. How about Megatron?

He's taller. Hutch? You're going to have to do better than that. All right, all right. We only have one shot to nail this.

One shot. You know you're still going to get booed, right? I'm not afraid.

I'm afraid for you. That was perfect. Even though some of it was on tape, that particular portion, when they got out on stage, the hype was real. Everything from Aiden Hutchinson to Barry Sanders to Megatron to Eminem, along with Jared Goff and his BFF, Amun Rassim Brown, who made sure the crowd did in fact start chanting his name.

So it was really, I thought it was perfect. It was a really fitting way for Detroit to open the NFL Draft. And with that, we head to the Motor City now and welcome Russell Brown, who's an NFL Draft analyst for Fantasy Pros and Betting Pros and also has the Detroit Lions Podcast. And Russell, first time the draft lands in Detroit, what did it feel like to you when you were down there on Thursday? For me, the draft's what I live for.

It's all I've ever thought about. And it was great being down there today. And just to experience it, it's truly something that's just remarkable as just a draft guy myself. But for the fan base in the city of Detroit and just Lions fans that were down there, according to Roger Goodell, 275,000 people on attendance, breaking and just shattering any record that was previously held by other cities like Nashville and Vegas. It was amazing at how many people there were. And we were at the corner of Woodward and Congress in Metro Detroit just broadcasting live with our radio station and just looking at just the mountains of people and the different colors of the jerseys.

You'd see a Broncos jersey and a sea of Honolulu blue and then some Jets fans. And it was just awesome. And just getting to interact with all these different fan bases and getting their opinions on these players.

It was so much fun. Are you in any way surprised that Detroit set a record for attendance? No, I mean, this is what we do. This is a football city and people love the Lions and they live for this football scene here in this city. And it was awesome. How significant is it to get an event like this from the NFL in Detroit? It's just so important for the fact that Detroit gets such a bad rap nationally from people like, oh, I would never go there. It's dangerous, this, this, and that.

And in all major cities, they have dangerous parts in it. But it was just a great event where you got great food, great bars and restaurants, and just great people. And the atmosphere was awesome.

A little cold, no doubt about it, but it looks like the weather's going to start warming up over the next couple of days. And it should be a great three-day weekend for anybody that's there. And hopefully that means, you know, as future events come along, people will look at it and be like, hey, I'm going to go check out the city of Detroit because there's just so much to do down there, whether it be the casinos, the restaurants, like I mentioned, just, it was, they set it up beautifully. Detroit definitely dazzled. But let me ask you this, Russell, how much does it matter that it came after not just a winning season, but the first playoff win for Detroit in Lions fans know-how?

How long? Yeah, 32 years and who's counting, you know, but it was great. I was there for that game and just, just being there, sharing that with my son, that was awesome. And those fans, it was, it was amazing.

It's it's like you're living on a cloud, you know, it's, it's something that's just remarkable. And obviously they were one half away from the Superbowl and what just, what a run is this organization's been on? If they had a great pick tonight with Tyrion Arnold and they got aggressive and that place erupted when they were on the clock.

Yeah, it was really neat scene. Russell Brown is with us from Detroit in the wake of round one, still a weekend to go in this 2024 NFL draft. And he's an analyst for fantasy pros and betting pros and with us here after hours with Amy Lawrence on the infinity sports network. So Russ, there were lots of predictions and mock drafts about how this would play out, but I don't know how many people thought six quarterbacks taken in the first 12 picks. What's your reaction to those first 12 record setting night? And just looking at those six quarterbacks, I really can't believe all six went in the first round and we started joking is there going to be a seven to quarterback?

Are we going to see Spencer Rattler? Obviously we, we didn't see that, but it just goes to show that the teams in this league, they, they had a quarterback need and they value these, these players at that position more than any other position. And it's an offensive heavy league. And we knew this was an offensive heavy draft, but just a bunch of sparks and a bunch of fireworks in those first 14, 15 picks, and really just in this first round, but the landscape of the NFL is, is changing with six new faces at the quarterback position going to the different teams. So it's going to be so intriguing. I think the one I'm most excited about is probably Jayden Daniels to Washington just simply because of that division and how explosive he is and the weapon that he is as, as a runner, but then just the deep touch and anticipation that he has as a quarterback, it's by far, I think some of the best we've seen in this class.

So a winnable NFC East that we see every year is so much uncertainty with the Cowboys and giants. I think Washington's a very intriguing team. How surprised were you at the Falcons choosing Michael Pennix at number eight once they had already paid Kirk Cousins? Yeah, that one was just, uh, just shocking. And then when they went to the war room there, it was like, it didn't seem like many people there were on board and it really felt like their general manager had to explain himself to why he took Michael Pennix and even Kirk Cousins. There's that text or that picture of the text message of Kirk being somewhat surprised what was going on and that he didn't really get a heads up, that they were going to be drafting a quarterback and adding competition to that room.

So I think it's, it's very surprising. I thought this was a team that might capitalize on getting a pass catcher or going, you know, Roma dunes a staring them in the face. The, the thought of maybe adding a defensive player would have been there, but they add Michael Pennix and I guess they've kind of got a plan in case Kirk cousin doesn't work out. He doesn't bounce back from a torn Achilles, but just really shocking stuff with the Falcons in round one tonight. Were you expecting more trade movement Russell?

Yes and no. I mean, obviously it picked up in the backend more so because the bills kept trading back, but it was one of those where we always expect all of these trades. I feel like this was the case last year and then we didn't see very many trades last year. I believe it was only three draft day trades and then the same in 2022. Really the only team that was moving in the top 20 was the Minnesota Vikings. So I wasn't overly surprised because I think teams, once they get settled into the war room and they start figuring out where players are going and they can reassess their board, I think they start realizing, okay, we're comfortable with taking player X or player Y here in this spot. Russell Brown is with us from Detroit. When you think about what the bears did, how do you like the combo of Caleb and Rome one in nine?

It's a phenomenal combo. I mean, I'm, you know, a Lions fan at heart. I always try to put my fandom to the side and I just look at it from a football perspective and there's just so much to be excited about. If you're a bears fan, get the best quarterback in the draft, depending on who you talk to. I think Caleb was the best quarterback in this draft.

He's so dynamic and he's a guy that, you know, many people would label as generational. I wouldn't necessarily go there because he's still got to win football games and those types of things, but they get him a pass catcher that's different from anybody they have on the roster. There's much to be liked with DJ Moore and Keenan Allen, but Roma doons day at six, three to 12, he moves so well. He can be that prototypical X receiver in that offense. They can move him around too, but just what he does, he's, he's a workhorse and he could very well be one of the two or three best players to come from this draft. So I think it was a great first round for the bears. And, and really when you look at the NFC North, the dynamic has changed. JJ UFC, Caleb Williams, Roma doons day, Dallas Turner, so much has changed. It's going to be a very competitive vision and I can't wait to see how it unfolds this fall. Just out of curiosity, if it's not Caleb Williams and they still have Justin Fields, but they put all these pieces around him, might the narrative be different with the bears and their offense?

It could be. I think a lot of that would just be determined on how many more games is Justin Fields going to win for them over Caleb Williams. And I mean, we all knew what Justin Fields was.

I mean, he only won 10 games in Chicago. It was time for a change of scenery, obviously. And I think it was one of those where I think bears fans are very happy with the upside that Caleb Williams possess for their organization. And they kind of knew the writing was on the wall with Justin Fields after, you know, the last couple of years have kind of played out the way that they did for him outside of quarterbacks.

Okay. Cause that was a big surprise with so many taken in the top 12. What else surprised you about this first round? Just the offensive players that went 14 in a row, something I didn't think we would see seeing the Las Vegas Raiders take Brock Bowers over an offensive tackle. Talise Fuaga was staring them in the face at right tackle and they kind of doubled down at the tight end position as they took one last year with Michael Mayer and they take Brock Bowers. I'm assuming we're going to see some heavy personnel there with multiple tight ends that those were a little bit surprising to me, but yeah, those offensive players 14 in a row, that was, that was certainly something. And then I will say, you know, seeing the lions trade up from 28 to 24 to get Terry and Arnold and to see him there available at 24, not exactly sure what happened with those corners and why we only saw three of them go in the first round, but it was one of those where they just went later than expected. I thought we would, we might see them in the teens and then we might see a little bit of a run in the back end of the first round at the position, but to see only three go and Quinon just fall into the lap of the Philadelphia Eagles at 22, that's a great fit too.

So I would say that. Who's a player that maybe you thought would go in the first round that is still out there and still available? I thought Cooper Dejean was going to go in the first round just simply because of how well he tested at his pro day. And then you just look at what he can do for a defense and for a special teams unit, he's got great returnability. He was really the only reason why Iowa football scored any points a season ago. And I know he's coming back from an injury, but I thought with the medicals clearing and then the pro day and how he is just so athletic. I mean, this guy was Gatorade player of the year in the state of Iowa, a guy that as a basketball player probably could have went and played college hoops. He averaged 25, seven and seven.

I know the Lakers are down three, nothing right now. They might want to give him a call to maybe revitalize their playoff hopes, but Cooper Dejean I thought was somebody that we'd see in the first round and he's available on day two. So very intrigued with him. And I will say Johnny Newton, I thought he was one of the better defensive players in this draft. I know there was some concerns with his foot, but I thought maybe a team would draft him in the back end of the first round, like the Buffalo Bills, maybe even like the Baltimore Ravens. And he ended up just kind of falling into day two.

So we'll see where he lands tomorrow night. Still the chiefs are the team to beat as the Superbowl champions two time defending champs and would love to go three Pete. I'm not saying that there is a replacement for Tyree kill, but they do draft speed and Xavier Worthy out of Texas. How do you like that addition to Patrick Mahomes arsenal? I can't believe the Buffalo Bills traded out of that spot to give Xavier Worthy to the Kansas City Chiefs. First, they gave him Patrick Mahomes years ago, and now they give him Xavier Worthy. And I joked about this earlier, Hollywood Brown, Marquise Brown and Xavier Worthy haven't even caught a pass from Patrick Mahomes and they're already better than Sky Moore and Kadarius Tony. So I love what Worthy possesses a four to one guy. I mean, he plays bigger than he's listed at five eleven one sixty five, a really good route runner. He's going to be dangerous in the red zone and obviously vertically down the field with Pat Mahomes. So much is going to happen with this offense.

And it's hard to imagine them not repeating getting back to the Superbowl. Russell, before I let you go, what did it mean to you to be able to cover the draft, this event that you love, something that you pour a lot of time and effort into in Detroit where you're from? It was a dream come true.

I mean, it was a surreal moment for me. It's something that I have been working and practicing for probably the last 20 years, writing out mock drafts and making up fake player names and teams and all of this stuff. Like I was Mel Kiper on TV in my living room as a kid and I got to do it live on the radio tonight joining you. It's just great. It's a dream come true. And I mean, doing radio every couple of days and response all over the country, it's awesome. But to cover it for five, six hours tonight and breaking it down, it was it was awesome.

I'm so glad to hear that. Congratulations on this dream come true. A lot of dreams coming true on this first night of the NFL Draft and more to come. You can find Russell Brown on Twitter at Russ NFL Draft and analysts with fantasy pros and betting pros.

The Lion's Wire or Lion's podcast. A lot more to come this weekend. I'm glad it was a night that exceeded your expectations. Russ, thank you so much for a couple of minutes. Absolutely. I appreciate it.

That's neat, right? Not only are you living out your dream in analyzing and breaking down and talking about an NFL Draft, but it happens in your city. Russ had been up and talking for a really long time.

So I appreciate that he had a few minutes left for us. I know you want to hear from Michael Pennix. I bet you want to hear from JJ McCarthy. And what about these rumors? Rumors? I guess they've been confirmed that the Niners are at least listening to offers for both Deebo Samuel and Brandon Ayuk.

And then they go and draft a wide receiver. So we will give you more of the skinny on this first round of the NFL Draft. I'd love to hear your reaction on Twitter, ALawRadio, also on our Facebook page.

There's a post up there as well. Back of the hour following the update, we'll get to Knicks and Sixers as well as Lakers and Nuggets and working a little basketball. It's after hours with Amy Lawrence on this happy almost Friday or for some of you maybe into a Friday. Oh, I'm reserving my well, I don't have much enthusiasm left, so I need to use it while we're on the air and not during commercial breaks.

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This is after hours with Amy Lawrence. Michael Pennix Jr. wasn't even in Detroit, but man, what a roar from his crew, from his family and his friends when he was in fact picked. And that was in St. Petersburg, Florida, big group there and his face.

So when exactly did he know that he would be drafted by the Falcons at number eight overall? I'll say when the phone rang, you know, obviously, like I said, when I work out, I felt very confident, comfortable with our workout for like, we had a great workout. We had a great connection. You know, whenever I met those guys. And so it was always a special connection ever since I met him.

But you know, once the phone rang, that's, that's when I knew. And what about joining a roster and a QB room with Kirk Cousins as the, we'll call him, I can't call him a lame duck. We'll say the incumbent, though he's pretty new to the state of Atlanta as well. The guy who's been in the league, you know, he's been in there for a while, you know, he's played a lot of football.

And so I feel like me, I'm gonna come in and I'm gonna learn, I'm gonna learn from him, you know, try to try to soak in all the knowledge that I can from him because obviously he's been in he's been in the league for a while. So Michael Pennock saying all the right things, you got to believe that Washington coming off the year that it just had with Chris Beard, and playing not just in the national semifinals of the college football playoff, but on into the championship game, that that was a big reason why both Pennocks and Adunze were drafted in the top 10, actually in the top nine, they go back to back because the Bears end up taking the wide receiver. What a showcase, if you ever wonder about the power of the college football playoff and that stage and how it can boost your draft stock.

Now they still had to go through all the workouts, the medicals, the interviews, all of that, but you attract a lot of attention when you play well in that game and on that stage. It's after hours with Amy Lawrence, according to the Atlanta Brain Trust coach and GM, this is not a quarterback competition, but Kirk Cousins agent wasted no time and he heard actually Russell Brown say there's that text out there that seems to indicate that Kirk was stunned and that he had no idea what the Falcons were planning to do until they were actually on the clock. That's when he found out they were drafting another quarterback. Like I said, loosely, maybe it feels a little bit like Aaron Rodgers and they drafted Jordan Love, but not exactly because Kirk, while he is now the starter there in Atlanta, he just got there.

He only beat Michael Pennix to town by a couple of months. So it's not like he has any claim to stake and he does have the guaranteed money and he's got the guarantee that he is the starter. Thing is, he's coming off a torn Achilles and there's no guarantee, speaking of guarantees, that he will be the same guy he was when he was chucking and ducking there in Minnesota with Justin Jefferson. I do know the Falcons believe they can win now. They believe that the quarterback was the missing piece. Raheem Morris even says, we're not going to be in this position again. We really liked him. So it's interesting because he catapulted even ahead of, say, JJ McCarthy and Bo Nix. And yeah, the Vikings moving up to tenth to get JJ.

That really dispelled some of the narrative around him that he was a winner, sure, but only because of the system he was in, not because of his play specifically. 855-212-4227 Dan is in Athens, Georgia, home of University of Georgia. What do you think about the Michael Pennix selection? What's up, Amy? How are you, Dan? I'm good.

Thank you. Honestly, man, I think it probably caught a lot of people, you know, for a loop, no doubt, because I think a lot of people wanted to go edge rusher right there. And, you know, that's what the talk was around this region, at least for months. And I mean, I think it comes down to the fact that like, you know, multiple things that play into it, obviously, but, you know, with cousins coming off the injury, obviously, that is definitely a concern and maybe more of a concern than we all realize it is. But to, you know, if we do have the team that, you know, we all believe we have, and quarterback was a problem last year, and have we had confident quarterback playing last year, maybe we would have been a 12 win team instead of a 7 win team, you know, and maybe we would have won the division. Maybe we are a Super Bowl contender at this point. And, you know, the biggest issue at this point is if that quarterback play had been there, you know, do we need the pass rusher we went from what 20 for 2021 or something like that sex, and last in the league to 44, which was a huge, you know, obviously a huge jump, still only 21st in the league on sacks. But, you know, we're playing from behind half the season. And, you know, if you bring it back to the 16 season when we were scoring, you know, 30 points a game, we were getting after the quarterback, probably way more than, you know, what Vic Beasley's career ended up being at that point, you know, so I just think that maybe trying to basically double down on the fact that this team might be already ready to win something big, and making some moves that we've already made offensively, as far as Mooney and Rondell Moore, and all that stuff to add pieces for Kirk Cousins, you know, I think they're just doubling down on the fact that we think we think we're ready to win something.

Gotcha. So you think that this is them solidifying the quarterback position just in case for now, but also for the future, because that's what held them back. And you said last year, if we had a decent quarterback, I'd say the last few years, even the last couple years of Matt Ryan's tenure there, though he wasn't terrible, but it didn't seem to be quite the the connect that they needed with the weapons that were on the field. Sure, I mean, and then you had Julio that was, you know, on his way out. And, you know, some of the pieces left us, but the way that we've built the offense and the, you know, playmakers we put around the offense at this point, you know, you have Algiers, who's your thunder, and then he's got now Bijan being the lightning. I mean, you got a lot of playmakers with Pitts, London, and adding, you know, some speed with Mooney.

And then I think that Rondell Moore is actually a big gadget guy that's kind of, you know, overlooked. But at the end of the day, you know, I think that that defense two years ago isn't what that defense is now. And granted, maybe that defense isn't that great still.

But at the end of the day, you want to have a team that can score. And the biggest issue more than the pass rush from last year was, we didn't have a quarterback that could score points for us. If you got a team that's playing from behind, then we're going to have the advantage at least getting to rush the passer a little bit more, which will probably add more sacks. But if you're playing from behind and teams are around the ball, you're not going to get these sacks. Yeah, well, this is why Arthur Smith didn't last there. He never had a quarterback in grade that he was a big part of it. But the last two years for sure, they were just kind of firing blanks and stuck in QB purgatory. Other teams certainly know what that feels like. But yeah, if this is what it took to get Michael Pennix, and he is the franchise guy moving forward, then I suppose it's not a terrible price to pay. And they do have some really good weapons around him.

I like the Raheem Morris addition, of course, to the higher because of his defensive prowess and what he's done in multiple different places at other stops with the defenses. Oh, yeah. I mean, we added two defensive-minded coaches, both that have experience playing on the defensive backfield, which is huge for us. I do like the use of the word we, Dan. That's great. Maybe.

Yes. I'll never let that one go. I think that Zach Robinson's probably two years from now probably a head coach at this point. But we'll see what happens in the next couple years, obviously. But at the end of the day, again, I think that the defense is where I think it needs to be. And I think that you've seen over the last few years that if you have a top-tier offense and a top half of the NFL defense that you could probably get it done because it's not the way that it used to be with defense first. Well, okay. Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan.

Thank you. There are certainly examples of that, but the Cleveland Browns would be an example of something that's the complete opposite, right? They used five different quarterbacks last year, but their defense helped to drive them into the playoffs.

So there's examples of both. The Ravens had one of the best defenses in the NFL last year as well, in addition to having the MVP. So I'm glad you're excited though.

Thank you so much for your phone call. Well, I will say one thing about Pennax. One thing? One thing about Pennax. One thing about Pennax is I think that people are worried about his injury prone and all that stuff. But I think that think about from where he started and how much football he has played throughout his career.

When was the last time he's had two years off? So this is a chance for him to get healthy and then potentially be someone that we can look forward to in the future. All right, Dan. Glad you're excited.

Thanks so much for your phone call. One Atlanta Falcons fan that has a lot to say about what they did. Vikings not only moved up to 10th to get J.J. McCarthy, but they also moved up to get an edge rusher too in another swap with Jacksonville. So they were kind of the most active team early on. Their general manager Kwasi Adofo-Mensah on why they made that leap and got to 10.

I always talk about minimizing regret. And you know, if you're sitting on your couch one day and you're like that extra fifth or whatever it was, then it could have had a chance at a guy that you think has traits and could be special. You're never going to care about that fifth round pick and there's ways of getting it back. Six quarterbacks taken in the top 12. And I wonder what the Raiders would have done had there been another one sitting there.

They chose not to reach no defensive players until 15. And that was Indy with the edge rusher, Liatu Latu, right out of UCLA. And the fact that he was still available there for the Colts, you could imagine. So I don't know if you guys are watching the NFL draft version or I'm sorry, the NFL network version, but that's what I was watching with Rich Eisen. And he talked about a conversation that he had with Chris Ballard of the Colts, who said, I guess they had an interview on his show last week and he said, hey, if you can somehow get six quarterbacks selected in the top 15 before they get to me, I'd be thrilled because that means there are going to be players that filter down to us and we'll have options that we wouldn't have had otherwise.

Which is really funny that that's how it worked out because this almost feels like jumping the shark, if you will. Just the fact that there were so many quarterbacks taken early, even to the surprise of the guys who do this for a living. Yeah, look, and it shows you that quarterbacks drive the league and everybody, whether you want to admit it to yourself or not, you either have a quarterback or you don't. And a lot of teams were quick to pull the trigger and see if they can roll the dice. The question is, is the only thing that as much as a quarterback can help you and you need it, it can also cripple you. And that's where franchises take the risk.

And that's where a lot of GMs are putting their jobs on the line to figure out if they have their guy or not. Six in the first 12 is, I mean, wild. It's wild. The only other time that this happened that you had six in the first round was in 83.

And that took until when did Marina go? 28, 29, whatever. Well, this is in 12 picks. That's wild. It's wild.

It is. And the number of offensive players. But I was using the example earlier of Trevor Lawrence being the only one from the 21 draft that's still with his original team. All the others have moved on.

And that's the danger. If you throw these guys out there too early and you don't give them proper development or the coaching isn't there or the offensive line allows them to get slaughtered on a fairly regular basis. I mean, Justin Fields was considered a can't miss with the Bears when they got him at number, was it number two? No, Zach Wilson was two. Fields went down, I think it was 12 with the Bears. I think it was 12. They traded with the Giants. He fell to them and they were thrilled because they felt like they had their future guy and they weren't really expecting to get him when he fell to them.

You're right. That was Zach was at number two now with the Broncos. But that didn't work out.

Jay says 11. That didn't work out because they didn't have the right pieces around him. And the coaching changed and the voices and the systems and everything else. And so I just asked our guest, what if they had everything around him that they have around Caleb Williams right now and they've got the stability, might it have been different with Justin Fields? And that's kind of the idea is it's not just on the quarterback.

It's about who you have around him. So if the Broncos, let's just say for the sake of argument, they want to throw Bo Nix out there. It's not like they have some great quarterback room. I mean, that could be detrimental to his development.

Same thing with Pennix. I don't know that he's ready to go into an NFL system right now. There's a lot of these guys you don't know and you need to have the right coaching staff. You need to have the right players. You need to have the offensive line. They need to be ready.

There's all of it. The fit in the system. Is it right for them? Because some players can thrive off certain systems and not in others. Doesn't mean that it's talent. It just could be the fit. And there could also be where you take a guy and you're wrong.

You're just flat wrong because this is not an exact science. There's a lot of different ways that you can mess it up or it just doesn't go your way. There's a lot of ways that it can work out if you put the right pieces around and you allow a player to either take time to develop off the field, Aaron Rodgers. But that doesn't happen anymore. Well, it's going to have to happen in Atlanta, that's for sure.

We know that. But they have the luxury of having a quarterback that they're excited about that they paid. Which is, that's why this is rare. The Atlanta, that's why it's shocking that they did this because now you get in the NFL, everybody feels like the blueprint is rookie quarterback, rookie scale, build the team around it before you have to pay them. And then you wind up $50 million and then you can't do it.

So you've got to be able to get them on the field day one because then you waste a year of the five years that you have before you pay them. Right, but that's not the case with Atlanta. I think that's actually not.

That's actually an aberration. But yeah, with the Patriots, how long would they be happy with Jacoby before they're ready to throw Drake May out there? Jayden Daniels, does he see the field week one?

We'll find out. Caleb Williams, I'm pretty sure he can see the field week one. It's wild how quickly we do this with a lot of the guys. And then the Vikings too. They don't have another quarterback. And so, well, a quarterback that's supposed to be a viable option. So what do they do with JJ and how quickly?

So yeah, there is the catch 22. If you're QB drafted that early, you're generally going to a team that is got a lot of other holes, though not in the case of the Bears. That's the kind of neat thing is this wasn't even supposed to be their pick. And they've also been working on putting pieces around him. So I feel like they're set. Well set to make a jump on Twitter, a law radio also on our Facebook page.

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Tonight he was aggressive right and I know that's like the word oh he was so aggressive but he was driving it he was rolling downhill he was catching and shooting quick there was hardly I can think of well maybe one where he held it for a long time and finally shot it he made it but but most of it was decisive maybe that's a better word thought he was decisive on his decisions on when to roll and when to shoot tonight. After the game Joel actually revealed that he's been dealing with yet another medical condition so not an injury but he's been diagnosed with Bell's palsy. I don't know exactly what happened but obviously I guess that's a that's a normal thing I think he started the day or two before the Miami game and I had you know bad migraines and thought it was nothing but usually I don't like to check it out but for some reason I I ended up you know having to tell you know somebody and yeah that's why the Miami game it was just my body was just I was just I was not feeling it and then obviously lately with I don't know I'm sure if you google the symptoms you you know what it is yes pretty annoying you know with you know my left side of my face my mouth and yeah and my eye so yeah it's been it's been tough but you know I'm not a quitter so gotta keep fighting do anything but yeah it's unfortunate that's the way I look at it but that's not an excuse gotta keep you know pushing. He says it started a couple days before the play-in game against the heat and he had bad migraines and normally would just ignore that sometimes our body is sending us messages that we have to pay attention to and then the left side of his face his mouth his eye dealing with dry eyes so constantly using drops to keep his eye from getting too dry and doesn't have any idea how long this could last I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who are dealing or have dealt with the same thing it's not necessarily permanent it could be weeks or months according to Joelle and there was he hasn't lost a sense of humor nor is he going to stop playing basketball though it has affected his vision he said he's actually had blurry vision at times but there was another moment where he said I just hope that it could stay like this I got a beautiful face and I don't like it when my mouth is looking the other way so something that he's dealing with and I don't know why he he revealed it at that moment I'm not exactly sure why I didn't hear the question leading up to it only that he talked about it for quite a while shared about how frustrating it's been and you know wondering how long he can keep going with different injuries as well as with now the Bell's palsy and just the pounding on his body and yeah some of the other frustrations both mentally and physically remember he he told us earlier when he returned this was a really tough situation for him he dealt with depression while he was aware dealt with being depressed while he was away from the team and injured but has a 50 spot tonight against the Knicks and the Sixers finally get a game in that series it's after hours with Amy Lawrence. progressive casualty insurance company and affiliates price and coverage match limited by state law okay picture this it's Friday afternoon when a thought hits you I can spend another weekend doing the same old whatever or I can hop into my all-new Hyundai Santa Fe and hit the road with available H-track all-wheel drive and three-row seating my whole family can head deep into the wild conquer the weekend in the all-new Hyundai Santa Fe visit Hyundai usa.com or call five six two three one four four six oh three for more details Hyundai there's joy in every journey listen as Selenia tells us why she chose to vaccinate her daughter I definitely felt like the pros far outweighed the cons the diseases that I am protecting my child against they're still here and at the end of the day it's my job as a mother to keep my child safe talk to your child's doctor and learn more at why vaccines dot com brought to you by Merck.