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Definitely not in the New York City area. Not sure if you know, but there were games that were canceled because of the smoke and the air quality being among the worst. Some of the worst it's been in decades and decades in the New York area. So the Yankees game was canceled. Mets are in Atlanta, but the Yankees game was canceled. And also the smoke got inside Barclays Center, somehow was able to get inside the arena. And they decided because the air quality was not clear that they would cancel the WNBA game that was supposed to be hosted by the Liberty on Wednesday evening. So events being canceled, schools canceled, outdoor activities, especially as it pertains to kiddos, those getting canceled as well, and the air quality still pretty rough. I actually heard one report on the Weather Channel that it's supposed to get worse on Thursday morning before it starts to get better. If you are in one of those places where the air quality is suffering from the Canadian wildfires and the smoke that's descending into the U.S., please be careful. It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio Miami.
Not so, not so worried about their air quality, but definitely worried about their two teams. The Florida Panthers now trailing in the Stanley Cup Final 0-2. Miami Heat, well, they're down 2-1 against the Denver Nuggets, and they've lost that home court advantage. Really a dominant performance by Denver on Wednesday night. It's After Hours here on CBS Sports Radio.
You can find us on Twitter, After HoursCBS, or on our Facebook page. Right now, we are pleased to welcome Jose Pineda, who joins us from South Florida. He is the longtime Spanish play-by-play voice of Miami Heat Radio. Jose, we have seen the Heat thrive in these comebacks where they're down double figures even to start the fourth quarter. In Game 2 in Denver, they were able to come all the way back, steal that victory, snatch it from the jaws of defeat, but not in Game 3.
So what was the difference between these two fourth quarters, Jose? I think when you start the last quarter already down, again, it was all Denver tonight, really. Miami never led after the second quarter, late second quarter, and it was 44-42 with 3-18 left. And then at the half, Miami was down 5, and basically that was it. Miami did not win a quarter in Game 3. They tied the first quarter. They were down 5 in the second, they were down 9 in the third, and they were down 1 in the fourth.
And it seemed that they never got going. And Denver was terrific. They were just terrific. And the combination of Jokic and Murray were just outstanding, both of them obviously with triple doubles.
I think that's the first time ever in the history of the Finals that that happens. And they were just terrific, and Miami just couldn't find their offense tonight. 37% field goal percentage, that was the second worst this year. Although Miami had 6 more three-pointers and took actually 12 more shots tonight than Denver, they just couldn't hit. They took 12 more shots and made 7 less shots than Denver tonight, and again, with 37%, very, very difficult to win that way. Jokic and Murray with the triple doubles, and the Heat have had varying degrees of effectiveness in their defense when they're able to limit Jokic a little bit. What's the best strategy for guarding him?
Well, I mean, I don't think that that is that easy to do. I mean, obviously in the last game, he scored 41 points, but only had 4 assists. You know, in the first game, I should say, a triple-double and 14 assists and 10 rebounds in that triple-double. And tonight, you know, he had, again, 10 assists.
So he just is a surgeon, and you got to pick your poison with him. But I think that the pick-and-roll tonight between those two was one of the best I've ever seen in any game, certainly this year and in the Finals this year, these three games. I mean, they were just on par with everything that they did. Pick-and-roll, pick-and-pop, the short shots by Jokic, the three-pointers made also by Murray tonight. He had two three-pointers at one point that were really, really tough shots. So they were just phenomenal.
They were just phenomenal. And Miami didn't have an answer for them tonight. And again, when you don't score, very, very difficult on one side to defend. You're not defending very well on one side and not scoring on the other.
That's a recipe for disaster. Three Miami Heat in double figures, that's it. So as you talk about, the offense wasn't real consistent tonight.
Did you see anything that stood out to you? I just thought that the more aggressive team was Denver. And even the players that scored in double figures for Miami, they were all under 50%. You know, Bam was not really efficient in terms of scoring. Yeah, he had 22 points and tied his playoff high this year with 17 rebounds, a great double-double. But he took 21 shots and only made seven. Again, he missed 14 shots.
That's not good, Amy. That's not good percentages. Jimmy Butler under 50% as well. Caleb Martin, who had the 10 points, four of nine. So again, when you score 37%, 31% in three-point shooting, that's not going to cut it. And what's interesting is, Miami only had four turnovers, only four turnovers, while Denver had 14 and cost them 17 points. The four turnovers cost Miami only eight. It's like the second-fewest turnovers in Finals history. But still, that didn't matter because the Denver Nuggets were so efficient tonight in their scoring, and especially two-point shots. I mean, they only made five three-pointers in 18 attempts, you know, a really not great percentage three-point-wise. But Jokic and the paint, again, the paint points as well, 60 to 34. That was a plus 26. Second chance points, 14 to 7. And in fast breaks, it was even at 11.
But again, the points and the paint was just, they pummeled us, and that's what even Spos said after the game. Jose Pineda is the Spanish voice play-by-play for the Miami Heat. Been doing it for 30-plus years, so this is his seventh NBA Finals with the team. We're so excited to have him on the show for the first time.
It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio. Miami's story is amazing, trying to become the first eight seed ever to win a championship. And I love how Jimmy Butler said that they're resilient because of the I don't give a damn factor, meaning they don't care what people think.
They don't care what people say. What stands out to you about the character of this Heat crew? Miami was second in the league this year in clutch games as defined by the NBA. 54, only Dallas had one more at 55. Miami was 32 and 22. They've been in 10 clutch games in these playoffs, 7 and 3. And again, it was so many ups and downs this year by the team. And to finish an eighth spot, the Heat's playoff run started a month before the season really ended to try to get into that sixth spot.
You don't want to be into the playing game. And then here you finish the season and you got to play Atlanta in the first game of the playing and you lose that game and you go, wow. And then you're down seven or you're down six actually with seven minutes left on April 14th in the second playing game on that Friday night at home.
At home against Chicago. You're down six with seven minutes left. They're down three with three minutes left.
They get there. Oh, and now you've got to face the team with the best record in the NBA, the Milwaukee Bucks and on to the Kumpu and you beat them in five and then you play the Knicks and their defense and you beat them in six. Oh, but you're not going to play the Celtics and you're up 3-0 and then you lose three in a row and then you don't want to be the first team ever to lose after being up 3-0 in the history of the NBA.
It's 150 and 0 and you win at at Boston. So this team is no surprises, you know, obviously now down to one. They had not been down in the series until, you know, game one of this year's against Denver. So, you know, this team has been through everything. They have been the underdogs. This was game number 21 of the playoffs for the Heat. The Heat have been underdogs in Vegas in 20 of the 21 games.
And then the one game that they were favored, they lost again. Nothing surprises me. What's crazy is people ask me, well, what do you think? What do you think?
I said, I don't know. How are you going to know what to think? How are you going to know what to think when you had 54 clutch games this year?
You've had 10 in the playoffs and you've been underdog in every game except one. So but nothing surprises me about this team and what how they can turn around. And and I really believe that we have one of the greatest coaches in the history of the NBA with Eric Spolstra and never underestimate what he does and how he moves chips left and right. Obviously a ton of wisdom and experience with Spolstra.
But why? Why is he such a good coach? How is it that he's able to put pieces together and it seemingly is a group that turns over at least a little bit every year and yet somehow he always brings them together so they're competitive?
Yeah. And it doesn't matter who you have. You know, they always said, well, but when he had the big three, you know, that was different. Well, he's done it with all types of teams and all types of level of players. And this year is no exception. You know, we talk a lot about Amy, the heat culture, and I know you've heard that word before a lot.
Yes. And really, it all stems from Pat Riley and down and, you know, being committed, being, you know, determined hard work nonstop. He's got a great staff and really to have so many people around you, including Pat Riley, that you can rely on. And I really think, you know, he's now also part of the Olympic team as a coach as well. He is fifth in the history of the NBA in playoff wins.
And he's just two away from from Doc Rivers. So again, he just does it different ways and with different teams. And he's always very calm.
I think his teams are common as well. You don't see any really, you know, frustration. You may see, you know, a lot of animated parts of the game of exposure on the sideline. But he faces every game the same way. That's really something so positive about him and the team and the assistant coaches as well that get these teams, the players prepared and the players believe. And also, you know, we talk about where we are in the season and how it's been. Social doesn't like to mention this, but the team started out this year with 10 undrafted players, the most like ever. And then seven in the playoffs and five of them are playing. Two of them are starters. So you look at that and you put that together and you say, how is he how does he do it as well because of the system that he has and the belief that he has and he puts in to these players and the hard work. Also, really that these players do that, you know, they follow the lead and it all starts with Spolstra.
How cool is it to see you? Don is Haslam get into the game tonight, even if it was in a loss and just for a minute. Yeah, it was. I think that he is the oldest ever. I saw one step that he's the oldest ever and yes to the playoffs to get in. But I also had seen another maybe in the finals, but I also had seen a stat where Robert Parrish by by a year or by a few months had also been, you know, at 43 and Haslam's 42.
But but that was cool. I mean, I've known him from from day one. And like me, born and raised in Miami, he went to Miami High. I see his banners when I go into that building at times that we do a lot of community work there at Miami High that has such a long history of winning in our county and in Miami-Dade County and high school sports and in basketball specifically. And that he is, you know, born and raised guy here.
And I wish it would have been doing a win and not a loss. But but he's such a great part. And that's something else that people don't realize. They say, well, why is he picking up a spot? And you don't understand, you know, that's, again, part of the heat culture, how he is really another assistant coach in the locker room.
But it's a lot different, Amy, when you have the uniform on than when you have the uniform off. I mean, we have so many great ex players and assistant coaches. Chris Quinn, Karam Butler, Malik Allen, Alonzo Mourning is also in the front office. Clay Rice is also in the front office. Anthony Carter is also on the bench as well.
But it's different when you are wearing that uniform. And he is so respected, not just by the players, but the coaches and the fans as well. And whatever positive stuff happens to him. I am just so happy for him. And I'm sure that he'll be part of our future as well. Jose Panieta is with us from Miami following game three called it on Spanish language affiliates, which is what what is the Spanish language affiliate 98.3. You know, vision at 8.3 FM.
And you also get it on the heat app and Univision app as well. And my, like I said, 34th year broadcasting games home and away. And I started 35 years ago with a heat in a different capacity and marketing and sales and moved on. And the rest is history. And you said seven NBA finals, three championship rings, trips to the White House, meeting presidents. Wow. And I pinch myself every day, you know, and and it's not over.
And hopefully another trip to the White House and another championship. But it's going to take some work as we knew it would. You know, when you get to this level, there's nothing easy. Nothing comes easy. If it would be easy to everybody have a championship trophy and that's not how it works.
True. It's after hours here on CBS Sports Radio. What's it like right now in South Florida with the Florida Panthers? And I know they're down, but they're also in eight seed, which is fought and scratched to get to this point in the Stanley Cup final. And now Messi deciding that he's going to play in Miami. And don't forget the Marlins are doing pretty good. And the Marlins just I think they were behind the Mets in second place.
So I mean, I think that's what I was paid attention to. I know that they're winning, but it's been phenomenal. Listen, Miami is the center of the universe for a lot of things. And and we are just giddy about all this.
And obviously, Messi coming here after winning the World Cup and one of the greatest soccer players in the history of the sport itself. And the Panthers are doing great as well. And so we're all excited for fans. Let me tell you, it's exhausting and for viewers, because now almost every other night there is a game, whether it's a Heat game or a Panther game. And obviously you have the Marlins as well. And and now the excitement with Messi, you know, coming over, probably coming over, obviously. And, you know, and we got the Dolphins and then and Tua and, you know, they made the playoffs last year. And we have Coach Michael's coming into McDonald's, I'm sorry, to the games. And he's really excited as well about what's going on with the Panthers and the Dolphins.
So it's in the heat. And so it's it's been a great time here in sports in South Florida. I'll tell you what it's been. I know for for us is his podcast is and employees, you know, and this is part of the sport is, you know, it's exhausting both physically and mentally. I mean, going down game.
And this is something we spoke about before. Talked about how this is happening, how to how did the resiliency of this heat team, you know, going up three against the Boston Celtics and then losing at game six at home. And you're like, oh, my goodness, you got to go to Boston and everybody was there. And you got Paul Pierce in the front row and Jason Terry and you have Rondo and the whole thing there. And they bring back and they bring the video of the of the Red Sox coming back against the Yankees down three and OK. And I mean, mentally, it was exhausting.
And then winning that game and then we we had already planned going straight from from Boston to Denver and we show up in Denver and we, you know, it's a four hour flight and we get there around seven, eight a.m. It was it was literally exhausting. And for the fans who are staying up and watching these games as well, definitely it's physically and mentally exhausting. But that's that's part of the sport and that's part of the highs and lows. Well, and it's part of the toughness of the teams that can manage it.
They're the ones that survive and advance and are still playing. Great to catch up with you. You can find Jose Panjeda on Twitter at La Voz Del Heat, which is L A V O Z D E L Heat. Thirty four years behind the mic for the Miami Heat.
He's seen a lot. We're so glad to welcome you here to the show for the first time. I hope it's not the last time. I thank you very much, Amy. And hopefully the next time it's a win after that. But any time I really appreciate it.
And thank you very much. What a track record. Thirty four years behind the mic. And he's casually dropping visits to the White House championship parades, now seven NBA finals.
But I do love the wealth of knowledge. So he predates Pat Riley there in Miami, predates Eric Spolstra and this current group of the Miami Heat. But there is a culture and it's firmly established. And we talk about all the different coaches getting hired. And this carousel really applies to every sport. But right now in the NBA, a bunch of veteran coaches kind of getting recycled and starting over in new places. Well, in Miami, they have a foundation and they're sticking to it.
And that's why they now in their seventh NBA finals and why they're chasing a fourth championship ring. You can find me on Twitter, A Law Radio. Really excited to connect with you as we have been the last couple of weeks.
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That's point.me. For the After Hours podcast, I would describe the meeting is intense, certainly heated. This is a very complex. Obviously, it's a very it's been a very dynamic and complex couple of years. And for players, I'm not surprised that, you know, this is an awful lot to ask them to digest, and this is a significant change for us, you know, in the direction that we were going down. But as I'm trying to explain and I will continue to explain as we go forward, this ultimately is a decision that I think is in the best interest of all of the members of the PGA Tour. This is After Hours with Amy Lawrence. Jay Monahan trying to explain it, but mentions that the meeting with the players was heated on Tuesday as he was announcing the merger between the PGA and the live tour.
Also the DP World Tour. What does this mean? Well, details are still sketchy.
We don't have a lot of them. But if you missed our conversation with Matt Adams from Ireland, actually, he was called into work duty in Ireland on Tuesday with this bombshell news. I saw one golf analyst call it the most tumultuous day in the history of golf, which I thought was was a strong statement.
Maybe hyperbole, maybe not. But it certainly did turn the golf world upside down in large part because it was a huge surprise. Monahan has decided to take it, to take whatever comes his way. And Matt told us the bottom line is the bottom line. Ultimately, this is about money. And he says he believes that Monahan and a few others from the PGA Tour Policy Board who are in on this decision, along with the governor of the PIF, which is the investment fund where the Saudis spend so much of their money in sports and Uber and other American companies, he said, ultimately, the bottom line is actually the bottom line. There is going to be an influx of cash. What do we hear from the Saudi governor? Whatever it takes to grow the game of golf, whatever it takes.
But it was kept under wraps. A lot of the golfers were surprised. And there was a huge backlash and an emotional response, not just from golfers, but from sports fans. I actually had some of you tell me that you'll never watch golf again. Well, maybe.
I don't know if I believe that. I think that it was a similar response when baseball went into a lockout at the beginning of the 22 season or 22 spring training. And what did we notice by middle of the year? By the postseason, there was no more mention of the lockout. It was absolutely a forgive and forget situation for baseball fans and sports fans. If you didn't already love baseball, well, then it was no big thing. But if you do love baseball, a month lockout that only delayed the season by a week. Well, it wasn't so bad. How many sports fans are actually going to hold this against golf?
Forever. Maybe you will for a while. And maybe you're one of those diehards. It's a little bit like the whole boycott the NFL thing a few years ago.
They're for our entertainment. And if your morals or your ethics or your values run so contrary to the PGA Tour and the fact that it will be taking the Saudi money, then that's certainly your prerogative. But we know there's Saudi money everywhere. The Saudi Arabian government sells fuel, sells oil for fuel, gasoline all over the world.
The United States partners with the same Saudi government when it comes to powering our vehicles and other machinery that needs gas. And I do think it's humorous when Twitter gets moral or when Facebook gets moral. We tend to pick and choose. But if this is something that's important enough to you and you're never going to watch golf again, OK. I don't think that's the majority of sports fans, even if right now you're fired up. And I think that was the point for Matt. Matt was saying Monahan is willing to ride this out. The PGA Tour is willing to ride out the backlash so that they have the money they need to be able to expand golf courses, golf events, purses. And yeah, ultimately grow the game of golf through more initiatives.
It's after hours here on CBS Sports Radio. Actually heard some interesting theories on Wednesday about why this is happening now. There are some theories out there that through the discovery process of the lawsuits, I remember there were there were multiple lawsuits out there that were accusing the PGA Tour of of a monopoly in violating antitrust laws, and then they were also lawsuits against Liv. So there were there were multiple lawsuits and they've been dropped as a result of this merger. As a result of this merger. There are some theories out there and who knows if they'll ever be proven.
That through the discovery process in advance of these lawsuits. It was determined or it would have become public that the PGA Tour was in dire straits financially and that they were losing money so badly that it would have been an embarrassment to them. And maybe again, these are theories, maybe could have meant the end of the tour as we know it.
Remember, they promised huge purses. They kind of created their own series within the series, if you will, with some of the top golfers in the world. Didn't they find somebody? It was Rory, actually, wasn't it? Rory got fined earlier this season, if I remember correctly, from missing an event that he was supposed to play at. Maybe it wasn't Rory, a top golfer got fined for missing an event.
It was Rory. Okay, good. They set up all these new kind of series and stipulations and of course, larger purses. And the idea out there, the speculation out there is that because of the extra money they were spending, they were spreading themselves too thin. And with the lawsuits, they would have been exposed. The PGA Tour would have been exposed for its lack of funds and its precarious financial position.
I didn't hear the word bankruptcy. I didn't hear anything like that. But there is this idea that that hastened the desire and the timing with Jay Monahan, right? So maybe he thought he was protecting the PGA Tour and the only reason or the only way to keep it afloat and to continue to grow it and grow the purses and grow the events and grow the courses and not only maintain status quo, but keep everyone happy.
Was to sell out, was to sell out and take the money from a group that he blasted last year. So there are a lot of things that may change. In fact, these new rules that the PGA put in place for the top golfers in the world. Now they were competing for a ton of money, but Rory got fined $3 million for missing a tournament in Hawaii and the RBC Heritage.
So they had created kind of this new system with these ginormous purses. They didn't want to allow anyone who departed to the Live Tour to participate in anything PGA. But of course, the PGA Championship, Augusta National, the Open, the RBC, not RBC, sorry, RSA, too many acronyms in golf. Just a lot of different governing bodies of the sport. And so for that reason, golf was kind of pulled in a bunch of different directions and maybe just maybe the PGA Tour was running on financial fumes.
That's just a theory. I do not know if it's true, but if that's what Jay Monahan was trying to avoid, was all of this getting exposed in court documents, then that would be quite the incentive. Not to mention he gets to keep his job for now. Rory McElroy, he was thoughtful. He was open. He was frustrated.
And he was resigned. You will hear from him, I would say, along with Tiger, just because Tiger is Tiger. Rory was the number one golfer that people wanted to hear from in the wake of this bombshell announcement about the PGA and Live merger.
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Also call us 855-212-4227. You are listening to the After Hours Podcast. The memo today just said that there's going to be a combination of the live PGA and DP World Tours, that the PGA Tour will still have a majority stake on the policy board, but that all room I in will be on the board. You know, and that somehow there's some merging of the tours, they're going to try and keep some team component in professional golf, but try to get some of the disruption and, you know, maybe some of the bitterness out of the professional game, which is probably a positive.
But, you know, I think for all of us out here on the PGA Tour, we're really anxious to hear the details to see, you know, how it affects each and every player in the tour going forward. This is After Hours with Amy Lawrence. Golfer Brendan Todd, who spoke on Tuesday in the wake of the explosive and heated emotional meeting that Jay Monahan held with golfers in Toronto for the RBC Canadian Open. It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio. That was Golf Channel, by the way.
Rory McIlroy made extensive comments as part of a press conference in Toronto on Wednesday, and I would say, if not the number one golfer that we wanted to hear from, he was at least in the top two. And his story, well, it starts with a phone call early in the morning. I got a text message on Monday night, I guess, from Jimmy Dunn saying, hey, can I give you a call in the morning?
So I said, sure. Jimmy rang me at about 6.30 yesterday morning. We had a chat, took me through the news, took me through the deal, the structure of the deal, what it meant for us, what it meant for the DP World Tour. So, yeah, I learned about it pretty much at the same time everyone else did. And yeah, it was a it was a surprise. I would say he had a little bit of a heads up. So is that considered a sign of respect that a member of the negotiating team for the PGA let him in on it before he found out on social media?
Maybe I guess that would precipitate the 6.30 a.m. Eastern Time phone call. And then what, Rory, your reaction? I knew there had been discussions going on in the background. I knew that lines of communication had been opened up. I obviously didn't expect it to happen as as quickly as it did. But I really think that, you know, from what I gather, the tour felt they were in a real position of strength coming off the back of the DP World, winning their legal case in London. It sort of weakened the other side's position. And, you know, they went in there and, you know, the way Jimmy described it, you know, Rory, sometimes you got too itty over water and you just got to go for it. And, you know, that's that's you know, that's what that's what they did. It was compared to the it was compared to a deep shot, right, a shot that may be a little bit risky. Got to go over the water, got to go 280, but you just got to go for it. No laying up in the strategy between the PGA and PIF, the investment fund of the Saudis.
It's after hours here on CBS Sports Radio. I hear resignation from Rory. When I try to remove myself from the situation and I look at the bigger picture and I look at 10 years down the line, you know, I think ultimately this is going to be it's going to be good for the game of professional golf.
I think it secures the it unifies it and it and it secures its its financial future. So, you know, there's there's mixed emotions in there as well as there's going to be. I don't understand all the intricacies of what's going on.
It's a very what's the you know, there's a lot of ambiguity. There's a lot of things still to be sort of thrashed out. But at least it means that the litigation goes away, which has been a massive burden for everyone that's involved with the tour and that's playing the tour.
And we can start to work toward, you know, some sort of way of of unifying the game at the at the elite level. So you do hear golfers mention the litigation and the fact that there has been a fight going on and at least that's a positive. But Rory says, if I take my personal feelings out of it, if I remove myself from the equation, well, then I understand that ultimately, because of the money, this is the best thing for the game of golf.
And because the litigation goes away, this is. He doesn't call it smart, but he calls it the best option. But he refuses to back off his stance that live golf is a cancer, that it was.
A bunch of fellow golfers who left for the money. He won't see it as anything else besides a negative for the game of golf. And as much as he understands that the money will be a positive, again, feels he feels resigned. It seems like there's resignation there. He understands where the fans are coming from, he says.
He gets the disappointment and he tees off on live again. It's not live. I think that's the thing.
I still hear it live like I hear it like I hope it goes away. And I would fully expect that it does. And I think that's where the distinction here is. This is the PGA Tour, the DP World Tour and the PIF. Very different from live.
All I've tried to do is protect what the PGA Tour is and what the PGA Tour stands for. And I think it will continue to do that. So, like, going forward, I hope that there's, you know, there may be a team element and you're going to see maybe me, maybe whoever else play in some sort of team golf. But I don't think it'll look anything like live has looked.
And I think that's a good thing. I hate live, he says, like I really hate live and I hope it goes away. He feels like the golfers who departed and we're talking about Phil Mickelson, Dustin Johnson. Brooks Koepka, who just won the Masters. Bryson DeChambeau, who was part of the mix at the Masters. Cam Smith, who won the Open last year. We're talking about some great golfers. And they all had varying reasons for leaving. But he believes those guys, that tour is still something that he could never get on board with number one, number two could never support.
And he makes the distinction and wants everyone else to know. This is not the PGA partnering with live. No, this is about the money. This is about the Saudi money.
It's not about the live tour. Whether you like it or not, the PIF, we're going to keep spending money in golf, at least the PGA tour now controls how that money is spent. So if you're thinking about one of the biggest sovereign wealth funds in the world, would you rather have them as a partner or an enemy? At the end of the day, money talks and you'd rather have them as a partner. At the end of the day, money talks.
And Matt Adams says the bottom line is the bottom line. But it's funny though, he seriously draws a line between saying the PGA is partnering with live. No, no, it's the PGA partnering with the Saudi money, but hey, you know what? Those guys got millions and millions and millions, in some cases, hundreds of millions of dollars to leave for live. So yeah, we should get that same money too.
The simple answer is yes, the complex answer is how does that happen? And that's all gray area and up in the air at the minute. But yeah, it's hard for me to not sit up here and feel somewhat like a sacrificial lamb and feeling like I've put myself out there and this is what happens. Again, removing myself from the situation, I see how this is better for the game of golf. There's no denying that.
But for me as an individual, yeah, there's just going to have to be conversations that are had. He's resigned. He's definitely passionate. Think ultimately, he never would have made the move and didn't think it was going to happen this fast. However, the money, isn't that what it comes back to? The money.
It is unfortunate. Now I tried to see both sides of it, but it is unfortunate that the 9-11 families who were so upset about the live tour being founded by Saudi money and who were so upset that those players from the live tour were allowed to participate in the U.S. Open. They were so upset about that and Jay Monahan seemed to use them as a pawn. Talking about the moral high ground and do you ever have to apologize for being part of the PGA Tour? Somehow that all went away. It doesn't matter anymore, but Jay Monahan was asked that question as well. So we'll have a little more. Halfway through. Thanks for joining us. It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio.
