2-9-23 After Hours with Amy Lawrence PODCAST: Hour 3

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Learn more at goalie.com today. Eagles and Chiefs just days away now in Super Bowl 57. But come on, to be fair, it's not been the top story in sports for the last three days. It really hasn't. I was saying to producer Jay it's been incredible to come on the air Sunday night, Tuesday night, now Wednesday night going into a Thursday morning. And we've had breaking news. Three of the four nights of this week so far. If you include Sunday. Kyrie Irving getting traded. That happened late on Sunday.

So processing that on Monday. Though Monday opening night in Phoenix that was at least the prime time viewing for the NFL. Then you had Lebron setting the record. All time scoring record in the NBA is Tuesday and now 24 hours later it's Kevin Durant. A blockbuster deal because he did not want to stay in Brooklyn.

Instead he is headed to Phoenix. So Monday morning, Wednesday morning, and now Thursday morning the NBA is the top story not the NFL. Oh my gosh. Sports are strange.

They also never stop. And I have to say one more time, I warned you that the league was trying to hijack Super Bowl week with Lebron and the trade deadline. I just didn't know how juicy it would be. It's the dark side embracing it. I'm embracing it baby. It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio. You can find me on Twitter, ALawRadio.

I'd love to hear your reaction. Also our Facebook page and we're posting the links to some really neat conversations we've had around Super Bowl week so far. If you missed it, Colts safety. Super Bowl champion Rodney McLeod honest and candid after a really challenging year with the Colts.

What team had a stranger year than the Colts? And also had the chance to catch up with a Dallas Cowboy. He's a long snapper. I admitted to Matt Overton.

I don't know the first thing about long snapping, but man what a neat experience for him to join the Cowboys when they had a huge regular season and got a playoff win on the road. They're going to go for fourth and four at the 18. I don't feel too great about this, but let's go. You think they're pulling them offside maybe? Possibly?

Nope. They're going to run a play. Fourth and four. Back to throw it out to the left.

All alone. Caught at the two and a walk-in touchdown for C.D. Lamb.

How did you not cover the second team all pro? I'm extremely excited about the future. I mean, I look like it right now. It's slipping days, but I mean, it's just got a lot of work to do.

This is the time that you start. Mike McCarthy. Excited about the future, though a lot of changes on his coaching staff and before that the great Brad Sham on the Dallas Cowboys radio network. Matt Overton.

Long snapper. He's played with four teams in five years, but most recently the Cowboys and has now survived a decade in the NFL. He's a free agent heading into the new league year. Matt, what has this year been like for you with Dallas kind of picking up and moving and starting again in your career?

Well, it's been great. I mean those challenges because of, you know, the uncertainty of things, but I'm pretty familiar with being a free agent these past, I mean, like four years now. So I've been on four different teams in four years. So I went from Jacksonville and then I went to the Titans during covid then the Chargers and then this year made my way to Dallas as a cowboy.

And so the unknown is difficult, especially when you have a wife and kids now, and it's not as easy just to pick up and go, but it's been a blessing to go everywhere. And the way that we've been in this this year was just really special because, you know, being a Dallas Cowboys is just an iconic place to play and my experience there was great and we had a great run this year. So yeah, this season was definitely special. I'm glad you said that because I was talking about LeBron setting the NBA's all-time scoring record on my show.

And you were saying with the Lakers. It's just different. There's some franchises that they have such an iconic tradition. There's a different buzz around them and that certainly applies to the Cowboys.

So yes, what's different about being a cowboy Matt? I mean, there's a lot and I think it starts with just the richest history, you know, you go back to the Tom Landry days and then you talk about Jerry Jones coming in the mix and and you know how he got the team and obviously, you know, the 90s when they were winning all Super Bowls and all that kind of stuff. And now at this point, it's just, you know, every year it seems like the Cowboys are always in conversation, you know, good or bad and and you know, the media always love the spotlight the Cowboys and it's, you know, they coined America's team and and the fan base is incredible. And so, you know, as a young kid growing up, you know, I'm a diehard diner fan.

So I despise the Cowboys, you know, every single year. So, you know, growing up, I always had that profound respect for the Cowboys just because they're always a tough team and, you know, always competing for a title. And and I just want to again, one of those iconic franchises and I just kind of equated like like playing for the Yankees, you know, and and so going there as a player, I mean, just my respect for what Jerry has done has grown tremendously and just getting to meet him and see him operate firsthand and what he provides us players and the resources he gives and, you know, Jerry's world and the star and Frisco and our stadium.

I mean, it's all top notch. And, you know, I played for, you know, Indianapolis for a handful of years. And, you know, that's that's a historic franchise as well. And the family's tremendous. But, you know, when it comes to Jerry and the Jones family and what they, you know, provide us as a as a player and, you know, coaches and our families, it's definitely taking it up a few notches. And it's really, really cool. Just the amenities and just like you said, the buzz around the team always.

And when we travel, it seems like, you know, we're playing at home sometimes on the road. And it's just really, really cool to play for such a an incredible organization and a great fan base before you got to the Cowboys. Did you believe what you hear about the franchise or is it one of those situations where you think it must be hyped up?

It can't really be that good or really be that different. Well, yeah, I mean, when it comes from like a facility standpoint and just what they provide the amenities for players, it's definitely the best that I've been around. And I spent some time in Seattle and their facility is really, really nice. And I know there's a handful of other organizations that really have, you know, roll out the red carpet for the guys. But, you know, this place is I mean, when I got there and, you know, stayed at the Omni, that's attached to the star and our facility and the indoor. And I mean, it's like walking into a hotel lobby when you get to the player facility and the locker room and just everything that they provide is definitely been the best.

In that regard. And so I think, you know, there's always when you're an outsider looking in, it always seems to be some like drama floating around the Cowboys. And we experienced that this year. It's like the OBJ, you know, is he coming?

Is he not? That was kind of a little it seems like it was two months straight of nonstop talk of Odell and when he's visiting. And, you know, obviously his court side with, you know, Michael Parsons at the Mavs game and all that kind of stuff. So it was like, I get it. You know, I see it firsthand now. But I've also seen, you know, the way Jerry handles himself. He's with us all the time at practice, on the road, in the locker room. And he's such a down to earth guy. So I think what I learned and got to experience is, you know, you think of Jerry Jones as this larger than life personality. And he's really one of the faces of, you know, the NFL and share and meeting him in person. He couldn't be a nicer guy like just down to earth and knows literally knows everybody on the roster at all times. And it's just incredible just to see the passion he has for not just his team, but for the league itself and and for the game.

And so now that I've got to see, you know, and meet Jerry up close in person and see how he operates, I think that's been something eye opening for me. We're spending a few minutes with Matt Overton, who is a long snapper in the NFL now, 10 years. Does that make you feel old?

A 10 year vet of the NFL? Well, yeah, when these when these rookies are born in 2002. Yes, I definitely feel old because I was graduating high school when they were born. So yes, it does make me feel old.

It's after hours here on CBS Sports Radio. What are you looking for? What are you hoping for, I guess, in 23? I mean, I'm just hoping to play again. And every year it's it's it's kind of been like, oh, let's go back to drawing board and not to say that there may not be an opportunity with Dallas. But, you know, it's I kind of prepare myself as as if, you know, I'm going to be that free agent guy. And, you know, I kind of, you know, tell my my agent and my family. It's like, you know, the role that I have now later in my career about my position, I've kind of become that emergency long snapper guy. And I'm OK with that.

I really am. I feel like I've proven to these teams that, you know, if there is an emergency, whether it's by injury or not performing well, that I could be that guy to come in and and play and help a team win. And so I would love to go back, of course, and have some continuity with the team. But it's also kind of exciting to think of the possibilities of maybe I'll go somewhere else and, you know, get to be a part of another historical franchise and meet meet other guys that I never would get to meet or play with. And and my family can experience another another city.

So there's pros and cons. But, you know, I think just stay optimistic in the moment. I love kind of being against the odds. And I know God's got a greater plan than I can ever think of. So I'm excited for what the future holds for sure. Do you have to get a real estate license in every state where you move?

No, I've only I've only done that two places. And that's that's enough for me. It keeps me busy. I was gonna say how does a person have time to not only manage an NFL career and what comes with potentially moving and as you say, you've done that now the past few years, plus a family and a podcast and a brand and sell real estate. In 2019, I kind of dove headfirst into the real estate and did really well.

I sat out pretty much the entire season of 2019. And so I was able to get my license in Indiana and I loved it. I think it's a great thing for guys to have just because of the network circle that we have as players and and the guys that we get to meet and the people we get to meet. That's kind of the perk of our profession is meeting a lot of people and influence that you have. So I feel like I got lucky there. And Indianapolis was home to me for about eight years.

So being an agent in that market was really, really good and then moved to Nashville and got my license here when I played for the Titans. And that's been good, too. So I've been utilizing that, whether it's helping people relocate and even helping some teammates and their families. So it's very, very part time. But it is fun to have.

And it's real estate, something I really do love, whether I'm licensed or not. And and it's been a nice little fallback. And, you know, I kind of just use this as an example for guys that you just have something to fall back on. And that's where, you know, this comes into play for me and podcasting and building a brand, too. So, you know, football doesn't last forever. And, you know, just kind of have to utilize the platform that you have at the moment. And hopefully it'll it'll propel you to mean no greater things afterwards. Well, I have an accounting degree. And early in my radio career, I had to use it to pay the bills.

So it is definitely smart to have other skills that you can use to get a job because you never know how long the career will go and when it might come to an end, as you point out. So, Matt, what would you say was the best game, the highest point, the coolest moment with the team this season? I mean, there was definitely a handful. You know, I joined the team like week five, you know, three quarters of the season I was with them. And and gosh, it goes by so fast, you know. And so I'd have to say, you know, some of the high points for us this year was, you know, going on the road against Minnesota and like completely just blowing the doors off of it. Kind of like one of those games where it's just like, gosh, dang, we're rolling.

I don't I think the score is like forty one to three or something like that. I mean, it was like an incredible road victory because that's such a tough place to play. And Minnesota at the time was kind of on a hot streak, you know, so is one of those games where like, man, we felt pretty good about ourselves going to the locker room and that flight home that game. You know, and then we had another home home victory against the Eagles on Christmas Eve. That was a huge, huge one for us. And the road game, obviously, in Tampa Bay in the playoffs. And because it had been like 30 years since whatever it was, then the Cowboys had won on the road in the playoffs. And only 10 of us on the team were even alive during that time.

So it's like, obviously, that yeah, that pressure was was on. But we got that big road victory. And it just so happened to be Tom Brady's last game, you know, that we think, you know, we don't know if he's going to come back or not.

But it sounds like he won't. So, I mean, there's particular games where personally I felt like I played pretty well or our kicker, Brett Maher, you know, had a great game or a punter, Brian Anger, had a great game. Our special teams had a great game. So but as a team, I think, you know, those road victories always seem to mean a little bit more just because it's special. It's hard to win on the road and then you get to enjoy it on the way back on a flight home.

So those are some of the high points for sure. OK, I swear to you, I was not going to bring up Brett. I wasn't going to bring up the game that really it captivated the NFL even more so than the results.

The game in which he missed the extra points. It happens, right? It's sports.

Nothing's automatic. But what was happening on the sidelines or what was happening with Brett? I mean, it's just one of those things where I kind of just equate it to, you know, just a professional golfer just not having a great day on the course. I don't know, like we all have those days and I never want to act like I know, you know, how, you know, to diagnose his kicking because I know nothing about kicking, even though I'm with him all the time.

The only thing that I know what to do is just to support my guys no matter what, because they do it for me. And the team rallied around him. And I mean, everyone obviously knew that he was just going through a whirlwind of an experience and he owned it like a true professional and whether it was with the media or just how he handled himself the week after and, you know, the week in practice and the next game. And yeah, it's just one of those crazy, crazy flute games where it's just like, gosh, dang, just for whatever reason, the ball just wasn't going through the uprights, you know, and it wasn't like he wasn't kicking the ball well. The ball was, you know, seemed to leave his foot really, really well.

It just wasn't going through. So, I mean, I have my I commend Brett for, you know, everything they got through that game because up to that point, he'd had a stellar season. And I think that's what really stinks about the situation is people overlook the fact that, you know, he really did have a Pro Bowl caliber season. And when you can only select two kickers, one from the NFC and one from the NFC for Pro Bowl, it's unfortunate because Brett deserved the acknowledgement of getting Pro Bowl this year because he deserved it.

He's a true pro and I have so much respect for Brett and everything that he's done for the team and it was an honor playing with him. But that situation stunk and we moved on from it and he bounced back and, you know, that's just how it goes sometimes. And everyone goes through it. I mean, from quarterback down to the kicker, everyone goes through it. And unfortunately at our position, sometimes you're under the microscope or the spotlight 10 times because you're almost expected to make your kick every time.

It's a crazy thing and, you know, Brett will be better for it. I think what impressed me the most is, as you say, everyone was supporting him. Nobody was ripping on him, recognizing. I think even Dak said, heck, I had two interceptions played like crap the week before that Buccaneers playoff game. But also there was no knee jerk to cut him.

Also a sign of an organization where there's strong leadership. Definitely. So then going into the Niners game, you mentioned that you grew up being a Niners fan. What was that like for you to be there and to be part of a Cowboys playoff game against San Francisco?

Oh, it was incredible. Like that would be one of my, you know, obviously we didn't win the game. So the result wasn't that I wouldn't put that in my top five, you know, experiences with the team this year.

It would have been, it would have been number one for sure. Outside if we didn't win this ruble, because just for me personally, just being from the Bay area, growing up as a Niners fan, like I played it, I played the candlestick. So I never played at my first time at Levi and, and, you know, having a ton of friends and family in the stands and, you know, just kind of everyone watching and all, and everyone's a Niner fan on my, me and my family and friends. So there was nobody, you know, out, you know, wearing Cowboys stuff to the games or anything like that. So it was kind of cool. Like I was upset, like, Hey, you got to put the, you got to put the Navy on, you know, and put that star on just for one game. But my, my family and friends are diehard. So, you know, they were rooting for me and they wanted me to play well. And, but they wanted, they were rooting for the Niners. So it was just cool just because the environment's hostile, you know, and it's just that rivalry growing up, watching the Niners and Cowboys play, like it seemed like every year they were battling in the NFC championship to go to the Superbowl. And, and so to be, to kind of relive that as a player, especially on the road was really special and I'll never forget that game.

And, and gosh, I hope that one stung and I hope we get another chance to meet again. Matt Overton is a long time NFL long snapper. Now a decade in the league, most recently with the Cowboys.

It's after hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio. We had a unique situation around DeMar Hamlin. For me, it felt like Matt from the outside that the NFL really ground to a hole, which never happens. This is a behemoth of a league.

It's become year round. It's all consuming. But those couple days while we were waiting for some news about DeMar and he was in the hospital, it seemed like everything really stopped. And a bunch of players, Josh Allen, even from the Bills coming out, talking about how the conversations in the locker room had changed. And it was a lot more about what it means to play a game where sometimes your life can be on the line. And then he also spoke about faith and about mental health. So wondering in your locker room and the conversations that you had with people, how players in Dallas that you worked with were looking at that situation from the outside and processing some of those same reactions and anxieties.

I know there was definitely a deep concern for his health and well-being. And obviously, that game was on Monday night. So Monday and Tuesday and Wednesday were just kind of very somber and not knowing the status of DeMar. And obviously, when we're watching on TV, there's not a lot that we're being told.

And we can't see certain things. And obviously, there's something seriously happening because the game is done. And all the players on the field are going to need praying. People are crying.

The entire stadium is silent. So there was just that weird 24-hour period where everyone just kind of paused and football went to the wayside. Even when we came into our first team meeting, that first thing we talked about was DeMar and the situation and just praying for him and praying for the Buffalo Bills and the Bengals and everyone that was there to experience that. So I would have to say that our experience is obviously not the same as what those guys on the Buffalo Bills and the Bengals experienced because they were there. But there were certainly a few days where it just seemed like everything just moved slower and football wasn't a priority.

And there was like a lack of energy kind of going into the last week. And I would have to assume that most of the league felt that just because everyone was concerned. And as the good news continued for DeMar and his progress, I think that's kind of when everyone took a deep breath.

And we heard that he was on FaceTime with his teammates. And what an incredible testimony that can be shared. And the power of prayer is real. And it was really cool to hear guys who probably normally wouldn't talk about faith or praying. And they were actually talking about that in press conferences and just sharing their beliefs and their faith, which was incredible. And so I have no doubt that DeMar is going to use his testimony to do so much good. And it's incredible to see how really just humanity came together and the people supported his charity and the NFL just banded together.

Very, very scary situation. And when it all came through, it just was kind of just a beautiful display of humanity and coming together and supporting somebody who needed us. For once, it did not matter the uniform or the league or the division of the conference. It just mattered that we were all rooting for him to come through and grateful when he did. And speaking of DeMar Hamlin, actually, he received an award on Wednesday and spoke. Really warmed my heart to hear from him with his parents behind him.

We'll get to that later on. But a few more minutes with Matt Overton, long snapper in the NFL for 10 years, most recently with the Cowboys. Did you like what he had to say about Jerry Jones and why the Cowboys organization is just different?

He pointed to facilities and amenities. Coming up, though, his journey is atypical. He's played for four franchises in five different years. How does his faith and how does his motto, not to mention that real estate gig, help him to deal with the uncertainty? We're still touched.

You all made the trek out here. We hope our marriage is nothing like yours. From the director of Pitch Perfect and the producers of The Proposal. Something doesn't feel right. They took everybody hostage.

Jennifer Lopez, Josh Duhamel. This is not happening. Pirates chasing you wasn't on your vision board. You're the only thing on my vision board. Shotgun Wedding, rated R. Watch now on Prime Video. We're still touched. You all made the trek out here. Robert, Renata, we hope our marriage is nothing like yours.

Cheers, everybody. From the director of Pitch Perfect and the producers of The Proposal. Something doesn't feel right. We're pirates and they took everybody hostage.

Jennifer Lopez, Josh Duhamel. This is not happening. Pirates chasing you wasn't on your vision board. You're the only thing on my vision board. Shotgun Wedding, rated R. Watch now on Prime Video. We're still touched. You all made the trek out here. Robert, Renata, we hope our marriage is nothing like yours.

Cheers, everybody. From the director of Pitch Perfect and the producers of The Proposal. Something doesn't feel right. We're pirates and they took everybody hostage.

Jennifer Lopez, Josh Duhamel. This is not happening. Pirates chasing you wasn't on your vision board. You're the only thing on my vision board.

Shotgun Wedding, rated R. Watch now on Prime Video. That's one of the advantages of being the owner and the general manager because if you're the guy that is having to make that decision both ways, you're cutting the check. You got it all right there in front of you and so you don't have to, when the opportunity to strike is there, you can get it. That's why it's always been around here. Always.

This is After Hours with Amy Lawrence. The voice of one Jerry Jones, owner and general manager of the Dallas Cowboys. If you missed it just a few moments ago, Matt Overton, long snapper with the Cowboys this season said, Jerry couldn't be nicer. He's at every practice. He's involved. He knows every player on the roster and it was great to play for the Cowboys organization because of Jerry.

It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio. Couple more minutes with Matt, more along the lines of his own personal life because he has played for four franchises in five years and now he's a free agent. Not sure what happens next. I know from our conversation about DeMar Hamlin and also from following him on Twitter that his faith really keeps him and his family steady. So I asked Matt, how does your faith help you when you don't know about the future?

What's coming next, even if your career continues? I wouldn't have made it this far in my professional career without my faith. I mean, it started, it goes way, way back to college, you know, just coming from a small division two school and not a lot of interest from NFL teams.

Obviously not going to a combine, not having any exposure, not having, you know, the NFL knocking on Western Washington's door to come, you know, scout us, you know. So, I mean, the odds were stacked against me and just through faith and perseverance and just believing in my abilities. I mean, God took me incredible places, whether it's, you know, the United Football League, I had three years there and arena ball and made my way to the NFL with Indianapolis my first year.

And so, yeah, there's just been so many crazy, wild experiences in this journey and that started what seems a long, long time ago. But it's been incredible to see, you know, God being faithful to the entire process and whether a door closes or whether a door opens, I mean, he's just always exceeded my expectations. And as I've grown as a believer, just using my platform as a disciple in that locker room and knowing that my purpose is much more greater than being a football player. And so, just trying to have that mindset and the humility every time has been key for me. You know, I love playing football, don't get me wrong, but I know that I'm not here just to snap a football, you know. I'm here to, you know, be a shining light in the locker room and that's where I think being on a new team every year is cool because now I can be a disciple on a new team and reach people and meet people and grow with people that I normally wouldn't meet if I just stayed on the one team. So, it's been incredible to see just how things have unfolded and my family has been a tremendous support, my wife and my daughter and my parents and grandparents have been super supportive through this entire journey and it's been really cool to share it with them.

Matt Overton is with us here after hours on CBS Sports Radio. To kind of dovetail off of that, Matt, you have coined Stay Ready as your motto and your brand. What does that mean for you? Yeah, I mean, five consecutive years with the Colts and then kind of got sideswiped as far as getting released abruptly in the spring of 2017 and that's kind of when I had that kind of awakening moment in my career where I was like, man, I need to man up, I need to get better, I need to stay ready for the next opportunity. It kind of just derived from preparing and being a free agent and staying ready for the opportunity or the call when it hopefully comes. But then it's just evolved over the years into more of like a faith-based type mentality and it's just staying ready for God's divine appointments. Like I said, whether that's a door closing or whether that's a door opening and just being ready and willing to serve and help others. So it's turned into this little personal brand that I have into a podcast and I love sharing my testimony and so the podcast has really just been mainly about that, like bringing people on that have incredible stories and testimony that many fans may not get to hear because they're not the star player.

And everyone has a unique journey to the NFL, not everyone's a first round draft pick, not everyone's from an SEC school. It's really cool to share those stories of guys who have come from nothing and have made their way to making their dreams come true but have also been faithful in sharing their faith along the way. And so it's been just a really cool thing that's evolved from really just kind of a little hashtag on Twitter five or six years ago. So it's been fun, it's been a really good way for me to connect with people and even these young guys. I get the opportunity to help and train and work with young middle schoolers and high schools and college players and free agents who are long staffers or who have aspirations to play. And I love helping them and it's kind of like, hey, you've got to stay ready.

No matter if you're an eighth grader or going in your senior year in college, just staying ready for these opportunities and being ready and willing to help others along the way. I saw that you posted a photo as you get set to launch into season two of your podcast. What can people expect to start out season two? Well, season one was filmed and recorded in my garage. So I think we started very organically. We had no idea what we were doing. We just kind of just pushed record, you know, got the cameras going and we just kind of went off.

But it took some time. So we didn't start until May of last year. This year, we're a few months ahead. So season two, we're actually in a professional studio. We got editing, we got producing, we got everything kind of dialed in. So I would have to say that, like, we're already starting in a better trend. Our mics are going to work this time and all that kind of stuff.

I mean, learning the space and learning how to actually do something professionally, because I need things to look right, sound right. And I'm very happy with the way that we're going and the guests we'll have on this year. I'm going to have more teammates, more of my peers in the NFL, the resources and just the community here in Nashville. We have country artists coming on. So the reach we have here in Nashville is really special because there's so many talented people right here downtown Nashville. And it's a hub for guys training in the off season, too.

So season two is going to be really, really cool with the types of individuals we'll have on this year. So, Matt, before I let you go, you can laugh at me if you want. I do not know the first thing about long snapping. But you mentioned working with kids, youth who are interested in making that their craft.

Where do you start? What do you tell kids or youth about the keys to a successful long snap? Well, I guess if you can throw the ball overhand, you can try to learn to throw it upside down.

I truly believe that God gifted me this ability to do it because not a lot of people can do it. And I think the trend is slowly going up with special teams and being a kicker punter snapper, because now there's opportunities for scholarships and all that kind of stuff. And hopefully we make the position cool. And so that's what I like to show these young guys that, hey, man, if you're a young guy and maybe this is your way to play varsity football or maybe this is the way that you make a team. I was never the biggest, fastest, strongest guy on my teams. And luckily for long snapping, that was my ticket to a professional career. So everyone has a different ability and I just there to help them in any way. And it's pretty incredible to see you put a little work into it.

You can be pretty good. So my encouragement is just guys just stick with it and be consistent and actually practice. And most guys will be surprised with how good they can become if they just put their mind to it and actually put the time in. Sometimes these kids, they do it for the first time. They think it looks easy and they get pretty quick. So it's fun. It sounds like gotten you 10 years into the NFL. So you can find Matt on Twitter at Matt Overton, O-V-E-R-T-O-N underscore L-S for long snapper.

But he's also a licensed real estate agent and he's got a stay ready brand and podcast. So make sure you check it out. You're welcome on our show anytime. It's great to connect with you. Thank you so much. And we hope that you will land somewhere again, whether it's the Cowboys or another team.

And you can take your influence, your impact to a new city. I appreciate that. Thank you so much. It's been a pleasure being on your show. That might be the longest interview I've ever done with a professional athlete, a current professional athlete. And after hearing from Matt, not only do I know more about the Cowboys, but I also want to see him play again. I root for individual stories even more than teams these days after all the years in this business. He's a guy that I can definitely root for one of those underdog type of stories.

Really cool. So, yeah, check him out on Twitter and his podcast. He's already working on season two.

I'm hoping for an invite. It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence, our Twitter, our Facebook. There's videos are super six series. We haven't had a chance to go and confirm that episode four is ready to go because once again, the NBA hijacks the night, even though this time it happens to be with a Phoenix tie. Coming up, though, Roger Goodell speaking out in his annual press conference during Super Bowl week. And one of the topics, the treatment for DeMar Hamlin, the treatment that saved his life, the plan that saved his life in Cincinnati. You are listening to the After Hours podcast.

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Cast. Well, I'm so thankful to everybody. I know that it isn't enough just to be thankful. This is just the beginning of the impact that I wanted to have on the world. And with God's guidance, I will continue to do wonderful and great things. I couldn't do this without any of the support and the love.

And I can't wait to continue to take you all on this journey with me. Not that DeMar needed to debunk the conspiracy theories about him appearing at the Bills playoff game. That was dumb.

Like really a waste of space and breath. However, we did hear from him in what was a wide ranging, grateful, heartfelt, emotional video. A tribute actually that was put together by the Buffalo Bills and featured a good five, six minutes with DeMar.

It was amazing. And so we'd heard from him and he's been active on social media. But he was also in Phoenix on Wednesday night to receive the Alan Page Community Award. This is an award that comes from the NFL Players Association. You may remember, we remember just because we talked to Rodney McLeod last year.

Literally hours after he won the Alan Page Community Award. And Rodney told us that it was so special to him, more so even than winning an award based on his accomplishments on the field. Because this is about what you do off the field to impact your communities. More than nine million dollars for DeMar's Chasing Ems Foundation. So I have to say, it wasn't just about DeMar. It's also about the sports fans. The Americans who showed up in droves to bless DeMar and to let him know we were praying for him.

And believing that he would pull through after that cardiac arrest in early January. It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio. DeMar once again in the spotlight, this time dressed up. He and his family, they look so good. Standing in front of a microphone and receiving this Alan Page Community Award from the NFLPA. First and foremost, I just want to say thank you. Just thank God for being here.

And thank the other guys who were nominated for the award as well. Who, you know, did the work in their communities alongside of me as well. Giving back to my community has always been a big part of who I am. I'm thankful to my father who's right here behind me. Growing up just watching him through community days in our community. And I just always was waiting on my time when it came. One of my favorite quotes, it's a blessing to be a blessing. With that being said, I plan to never take this position for granted.

And always have an urgent approach in making a difference in the community where I come from and also communities across the world. Congratulations to DeMar Hamlin. And DeMar Smith, who's the head of the executive director of the NFLPA, he had some really nice things to say as well. One thing that I really liked is that he pointed to DeMar as an individual who's overcome a lot, which we all know. Certainly the NFL came face to face with how dangerous football can be. But then DeMar's highlighted the spirit, the love, the joy, the fraternity of the people who play the game. I thought that was exceptional because, yes, we did see the fear. We saw the anxiety. We saw the emotion come pouring out of DeMar's teammates on the field. We just talked about it with Matt Overton. Even in his own locker room with the Dallas Cowboys, the first two days after DeMar suffered the cardiac arrest, it was sober.

It was somber. They talked about it first in their meetings. They prayed as a team for DeMar. And that was happening in locker rooms all over the NFL.

And I dare say happening in locker rooms for other sports as well. And yet DeMar's highlights, spirit, love, joy, fraternity of people who play football, because that was also so evident. It's not about the money in this moment.

It's not about who you play for or why. It's about being part of something special, being part of something bigger than yourself. Now the GoFundMe page, we were highlighting it throughout that week with DeMar Hamlin, is Chasing M's Foundation.

Remember the goal was $2,500 initially, and now it's well over $9 million. Now Roger Goodell, during his annual press conference, was asked about the safety protocols that saved DeMar Hamlin's life in Cincinnati. I told the owners later that week that the work that they have invested in by bringing in these great professionals, by bringing in the best of the best, did contribute to saving a young man's life. And I'm incredibly proud of that. Absolutely.

Awesome. The way that when they got back to Buffalo for their next game, remember they did all these pregame ceremonies and, well, we know about Naeem Heinz, but the medical staff and the athletic trainers, the EMTs, they were all honored and got such a thunderous standing ovation before that game in Orchard Park, because they truly were the ones who not only gave him CPR, resuscitated him on the field not once but twice, the medical staff at the hospital and the plan that they put in place. I didn't even realize that every NFL stadium had an emergency action plan. It's called an EAP, but it clicked in. The medical staff, the doctors at the hospital were waiting when DeMar got there when the ambulance arrived.

So it may not be used. For the most part, who was it that we spoke to that said he didn't even think really about the ambulances being there, that they were just, it's a former player. Don't even think about the ambulances being there anymore.

They're just kind of part of the scenery, and yet they were so needed in that moment. Shoot, I have to remember who we had that conversation with. There's more from Roger Goodell in his annual press conference from Super Bowl week, but you're going to have to step aside for a couple of moments here, NFL, because once again, the NBA is hijacking your headlines during Super Bowl week. KD on the move. It's After Hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS Sports Radio. Shotgun Wedding, rated R. Watch now on Prime Video.

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