Attributes We See In Each Other

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I mean, it's incredible. Andy, I'm animated. That's my John, whatever his name is. John what? John. John the Baptist? No, John the Wilder Hart guy. That's my. Oh, John Eldridge?

Yeah, John Eldridge. That's my being very drama-ish. He was an actor. I wasn't an actor. Yeah, I got you. Well, stay away from the theater, man. Yeah, I know.

You're not a Thespian. I can tell that. Well, thank you.

Thank you. I resemble that remark. Now, it seems like it's been forever since we've seen each other.

Rodney's had a chance to go across the country and back, and looks pretty much the same. And we'll talk about that here in a little bit. But no, we didn't have a show last week. If you follow us on a weekly basis, you realize that we didn't have a new content show. If you listen to us on the radio, then yeah, you heard a show that we did. It was one of the best ofs that we called them. Don't know if it was one of the best ofs, but it was one we plugged in and played. Best one we had to play last week.

Yeah, it's the best one that played last week. But we don't do those often. Fortunately, God's really graced us with the ability to do live content most of the time, and so that was one of the very few we had to do because we had what would be considered significant snowfall in this area of North Carolina. If you're in another part of the country, it would not be considered significant. Or if you're in another part of the country, it would be devastating. So it just depends on where you're listening from.

It would depend on your perspective. We had mainly the ice was the biggest issue. And so I had trouble with people getting in and with people being available and different things.

And so we had to kind of boycott for a week and people falling on their heads. But that was a little later. That was you. That was you. Yeah. And surprisingly, you still seem the same.

And there's no critical organs up there. So way back a couple weeks ago, before we were off last week, we did a show on the attributes of God, the names slash attributes of God. And that was a co-authored topic by Jim and Andy. And so do you guys want to kind of set that back up at all? Jim, you're on your own, Andy, go, go, Jim, Andy.

No, sorry. What was what were we talking about? Basically, we did names and attributes of God and ones that were very important to us.

And then we extended that to looking at each other and what we see in the other person. And we drew names two weeks ago, and now nobody knows who they had or what they're doing. So we're going to wing it tonight with Sam leading us. Yeah. Thank you, Jim.

Go back a little bit. You know, we did the name, as Jim said, the names and the attributes of God. And Jim might have been, or Danny, one of you guys recommended that we say, okay, what do we see in each other? And that was going to be our follow-up show last week. And so like Jim said, we drew names because we wanted to have one kind of point person with each person. That way we didn't have, you know, 20 clips or anything.

You'd have, you know, one clip per person. We didn't think Rodney was going to be here. So we just kicked him out and didn't even pick one for him. And now we have Robby that's out this week.

So we hope that he's getting better soon and Wayne couldn't make it. And so we're still going to proceed with the topic, but I want to set it up a little bit. You know, we talk about that we're all uniquely made in God's image, right? You know, we all bear the image of God, but we do it uniquely as Jim or as Rodney or as Harold or as Robby. Only as Robby can do, right?

Only as Robby could do, right? And so we uniquely do that. Well, it would come to make sense that we all uniquely have attributes of God that we demonstrate.

And so this isn't a, Hey, let's just get around and feel good about each other. That's not the intent of the show. The intent of the show is to say, look, if you walk in a community of even two people, maybe it's 10 people or three people or five people, whatever it is, one of the things you're called to do as a community is to call out in others the glory of God coming through them. And one way of doing that is to recognize the attributes that they uniquely bring to the world here.

Right? And so that's the whole focus of it. As we talk about today is to give you a way of going about and doing it in an easy way to actually do it. This is just draw names. I know that sounds kind of funny, but it gives you a chance to say, okay, I'm going to pick this name and I'm going to talk about it.

And so Harold, we're going to go with you first. Cause you had a name and we don't know each other's names. We didn't talk about them. And so you want to talk about your clip first or the name first? Yeah. We didn't listen to the clips either, you know? So this is all new to us.

Okay. Well setting up the clip that I picked deals with an attribute of God that I think a lot of people don't recognize. And that is that God has a sense of humor. If you think he doesn't take a look at a picture of a duck built platypus. If you think he doesn't read about Balaam having a donkey conversation or Moses talking to a bush.

So God does have a sense of humor. So I went looking for a particular clip and I didn't get it, but from the movie Good Morning Vietnam, there was a clip that I wanted and I got one, not the one I wanted, but it gets the point across. So if you would go ahead and play my clip. Yep. Here you go.

Sure. In my heart, I know I'm funny. That's in competition for one of the shortest clips. Well, the further setup on that is that the guy that made that comment was a Lieutenant on the radio show and he thought he was funny. He wasn't, but he thought he was. But the person that I drew the name is funny. And I love his sense of humor. And I'll bet the other guys know who I've got. Yeah, it's you. It gets me in trouble.

That's all I can say. One of the things that happens in these sessions with us is Sam invariably, at least once or many times during the show, he will come out with something off the cuff, not planned, but his sense of humor is just infectious. I love it. It brings so much fun to these sessions. We try to have content that's going to be meaningful to people that will help draw them closer to God, hopefully. And Sam, you just bring a different element that's wonderful.

It's fun coming here. Well, thank you. I appreciate that. Looking back, two places I think that comes from, obviously, I think it comes from my Heavenly Father. And as I've talked about on the show, that's how he tends to deal with me with humor, because he knows it sticks.

But it also goes back to my earthly father. My earthly father was really pretty funny. And a lot of times I didn't get his jokes until I got older. Same way my kids are kind of getting some of the jokes that I have that I told I can't share some of them on the air, but that I would share with them that would ring true later, they would get it. And I think that there's just something about humor that breaks down walls. If it's not done in a harsh manner, it breaks down walls and maybe kind of makes some points sometimes. Well, sometimes your humor can be cutting, but it's not mean.

Thank you. I mean, that's my impression that, you know, you'll... Let me talk to you about that. Probably the only time I was mean to you is when I stared at you for no real reason, making you... Oh, there's more than that. There's more than that. That's just kind of brotherhood.

That's just... I think that's the sensitivity of this kind man to my left. When you said that, I remember something my father said, and he had a great sense of humor. He says, almost everybody thinks they have a great sense of humor, and most of them are wrong.

I think all of us appreciate Sam's. I used to think I had a great sense of humor until I got with this group, and they don't laugh at anything I do. They laugh at me, but that's different.

Yeah, we laugh with you most of the time, most of the time. And what I really appreciate is how spot on things are. It's in context with what's going on, and we're all over the place with what we talk about.

We'll jump from topic to topic. Jim, you are a man that's hard to follow on a topic, and Sam's got something that's like, as soon as you're off topic on your own conversation, and he's got something that's funny to say about it that's actually in context with where you're at now. And I'm like, how does he do that? How does he keep up?

And he has something. I'm like, it's just so quick. I remember just getting to know this group here within the last couple of years, and it was just like, oh my gosh, that man has just got something else again and again. I just remember being just marveled every night when we came to do the show. It was like, there's more, and it's again, and it's again. And it's just funny because I don't have that capability.

I don't remember these things. You remember things that go on in people's lives and bring it back up to our shame sometimes. But it's fun because like you say, Andy, who you deliver it harsh to, you can see he's over there laughing about it himself, and he loves it. It's great. He loves it most of the time.

There are times I get to look and I'm like, ooh, I better stop. Hey, as long as you know. Yeah, as long as you know. I will say that one of the funniest things said in the most recent, it came from you actually, Rodney. Danny was really sharing his heart on something, you know, and it was being like so sincere.

And I don't know where you went, that sounds really hard. That was on a text stream too, wasn't it? I remember that one.

I tried to preface it with, I'm sorry, but this is what came to my mind. We just got done listening to that clip. Yeah, harsh. That was kind of, but it was funny. So what the context of that is, if you listen to the show, that comes from the nail, the woman that's got the nails. It's not about the nail.

It's not about the nail, yeah. So that's what the guy says to her. Yeah, after he listens to her, that must be really hard.

So yeah, that's his go-to right now. Well, I guess I would, well, I'll go next. I'm not sure if I got time for my clip. It's about a 30-second clip. Keith, am I good?

Okay, I actually will play it and then talk about the person I have, and if I get cut off, I'll come back and talk about them later. But here's my clip. It's from an old TV commercial about a Maytag salesman. You may be wondering why I call this meeting.

I'll give it to you straight. Aren't you guys being a little too rough on a Maytag repairman? You Maytag washers built to last longer and need fewer repairs.

Don't you care how lonely I get? I got a feeling you Maytag dryers aren't for me either. And ditto, you Maytag dishwashers, Maytag microwave ovens and ranges.

Give me a break, guys, please. Not all Maytag repairmen are this lonely, but we're trying Maytag. The dependability people. So the person that I have, I'm going to make you come back and listen to, right? But I'm going to tell them they have a new name from God.

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For more tips, go to christiancarguy.com. So Jim, that was your bump? Yeah, I went back a few years for my... Is that the late 60s? It is. This is, and only Harold's likely to remember this group. Herman's Hermits?

No. Oh, okay. I was just going to say... Country Joe and the Fish. Oh, okay.

They were famous for Feel Like I'm Fixin' to Die Rag. But this was on the album that I had back then. And I figured Who Am I is the perfect follow-up to Who Are You, which is the bump we did for God. So who am I? So if you listen to this on podcast, it makes even more sense than if you missed a week.

Like we did. You have to tie it in. Yeah, well, thank you. So any guesses on who I have? You're right. It's Harold. What I think's really funny about this, we did a blind draw, and I'm going to talk about it here in a second.

A blind draw. And we're the only two that talked about each other. And the other show, given any example of this, and we drew each other's names, which I think is pretty funny. Now, the reason I picked Maytag was not that you're the repairman. You're Maytag.

Right? And there was a day and an age. I remember when I bought my first washer and dryer and we could afford a Maytag. We bought them and they lasted 20 plus years.

Never really had any work on them. I don't know that they're still that good. I think it's just a brand name now.

But there was a truth to that commercial for a lot of years. And so when I think of you, I think of Maytag from the standpoint, you're dependable. Now, last time I talked about your dependability, like on your birthday, things like that. That's not when you came to the show, even though you had other things to do.

I'm not going to talk about that. Your dependability is you don't shy away from things like learning new software, learning new things. It'd be real easy for somebody to 80 to say, I don't want to do that. But because you feel drawn to the loyalty of the group, you want to be a part of it and you make yourself learn the new software we get at different boot camps. And so you can run the projector screens for us and put stuff up on the screen and you're learning some of the stuff to cut clips. And I look at that as very much a dependability thing of, look, I'm so engaged and want to be with you guys that I want to do everything I can to help. And so that kind of comes out for me is that. And so I think God calls you Maytag. That's just what I think he calls you.

At least he does in my ears. Anybody else want to say anything about Harold? Darrell Bock Since we're talking about Harold. So one of the boot camps, I was doing the Father by God talk. And you were talking about the different people that have an influence in your life.

And I was just kind of going around the team and what everybody had meant to me. And Harold, I don't know if this is an attribute of God, but I kind of named Harold, the silent assassin, in the fact that when we're on, and we're talking about stuff, Harold is typically pretty quiet. But when he has something to say, it's very pointed, very direct, and it nails it.

I mean, it, it nails what you're talking about. And, you know, it's just, you know, there's a lot of talk and proverbs about the ones that talk a lot, and the ones that don't talk so much, and the ones that don't talk so much, are usually the ones that know the most. That's what I really see in him is just, he doesn't always, he's not always the one talking the most, but what he says is very profound. Dr. Darrell Bock Yeah.

So you don't think that's an attribute of God? Darrell Bock Well, yeah, but I wouldn't, I don't like to call God's the silent assassin or anything like that. I might get you me in a little bit of trouble. And hopefully, Harold, I won't be in trouble with Harold.

Dr. Darrell Bock You can't get in trouble with Harold. That's, that's the great thing. Look at all the grief we give that old man, and he just keeps coming back for more. You know, I mean, he takes the butt of most of our jokes, because it's all about age. Because we love doing it, and he loves taking it.

He takes it with a badge of honor. And that's the thing I think is really cool is like, he can sit there and just be a part of the group, like you just said, he'll just sit there and be real silent. And then all of a sudden, when Harold Dyer speaks, people listen, right? It's just so cool, because like, oh, I'll just let everybody's quiet as soon as he goes to speak, because it is, it's like, another thing with Sam's humor that's spot on, his comments are like, oh, yeah.

I wanted to think about that. And it's like, that was so good. And so it's like, so few words. And I want to add, I'm like, no, there's really not much to add.

There's like, hey, that was good. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. I don't know how he does it.

Dr. Darrell Bock No, either. Andy, I want to go, Jim's getting the mic, I want to go back to your point. You know, God is, at least in my experience, God doesn't say a whole lot of words. But he's built to capture both of what you're saying. He's right to the point. It's succinct as can be. And he nails it. Right. And sometimes it is in a friendly assassin kind of way. It's kind of, ooh, that was a good one, God. Thank you. You know, it's eager.

Dr. Darrell Bock Yeah. And that was the point I was going to make. Plus, well, no, it's fine. But it's also often a question. And you will hear that from Harold, fairly often.

He'll ask a pointed question that drives a point home more than the statement would. Dr. Darrell Bock Having been a Maytag repairman. Andy King Okay.

I should have known. Dr. Darrell Bock They were called the dependability people. Andy King Yeah. Dr. Darrell Bock And that fits, Harold, is that the, like you had already said, was just a steady, you know, you talk about you and your sweetheart, and the reliability and the longevity of about everything you talk about, and the wisdom behind it.

That's what I appreciate. Dr. Darrell Bock I can jump in with my other person to talk about, which was Sam, because we like to talk about Sam. And he asked us to come up with words for other people. And my first thought with Sam was, well, you know, he's real gracious. And then I thought I had to, and said, well, maybe that's not the right one for him. But another person, and the word I came up with, which is one you hear attached to God for Sam, was steadfast, which is the same thing. He is very dependable.

And, you know, I can always count on him being there to bail me out when I need it, which is pretty frequent. Dr. Darrell Bock Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. Harold, do you want to say anything to your own defense?

Did we defend yourself in any way? Harold Jones Not only am I old, I'm short. Dr. Darrell Bock That's true. You had that going for you.

I just think as we get older, sometimes our memory doesn't work as well. And so we forget last week how we picked on him, but this week we could pick on him more. So Andy, you have the next clip.

Do you want to play the clip first, or do you want to talk about the person first? Andy King I want to bust on you a little bit more. Let's stay here.

Don't worry about me. Dr. Darrell Bock We've moved past that a while ago. Andy King No, Sam's humor is great. I think that humor, though, is, like Rodney said, really well timed. And there's just a joy that comes from that, I think.

You know, I think crazy humor just to be, you know, crazy or whatever. There's not always a lot of benefit. That's not what Sam gives. I mean, there's times we really just get going. But it's those timely times. But you know, whenever Sam, you know, everybody gives Sam a hard time about picking on me and stuff. And I was kind of giving it back to him a minute ago.

But you know, you're loved whenever he does that. You know, it is all in good fun. And there is a joy that comes with that. And we all have our communities. I'm telling you, that's a big part of community.

If you have a dull group that doesn't give each other a bunch of junk, you're probably not that tight. Because what that does, I think, a lot of times is bring up realness. You're pointing out some of the weaknesses of the other in a good way a lot of times. And it just, it's fun.

It's how God created us, I think, so. Dr. Darrell Bock Yeah, it's kind of funny. And I think it's, yes, women have humor.

I don't mean that. But I remember I was texting with somebody from work, and I was talking about something about you guys. And I said, oh, they're just giving me such a hard time.

I don't remember what the topic was. And because you were in a text string. And she said, Well, why would they be doing that? And I'm like, because they're guys. That's what guys do. Darrell Bock Because they love me. Dr. Darrell Bock Yeah, they love me, yeah. That's kind of how guys are, right?

Dr. Darrell Bock I was thinking the same thing again. I like being on the same wavelength as Sam. But when you said what, if a group doesn't pick on you, then my immediate was, then they're women. They encourage one another, because if you pick on women, you pay for it. With guys, it is a sign of love.

I love that about being a guy. Darrell Bock It is that. It is that. Andy, you got a, you have a clip for somebody you want to talk about? Dr. Darrell Bock Yeah, so this clip, you know, I think I'm just gonna have you play the clip is really focused in the clip. You'll hear a guy talking about his dreams. It's from the movie Rudy, but really, it's kind of like a documentary talking about the movie. And he talks about his dreams. But then you also talk about what it took for him to reach his dreams. And then I'll tell you who it is on the other side.

Rudy left home for South Bend, Indiana. I stepped on that campus. It cleansed all the negative feelings I had about life. It made me very powerful.

I was determined to find the answer. What must I do to go to Notre Dame? Father John Kavanaugh showed Rudy how junior college could be his path to Notre Dame. God must have put him there because he was a past president of Notre Dame. He was a little older.

He just happened to be there that night. Why are you here? I want to go to school at Notre Dame. What you need is the dream. Then find out what you must do. One janitor was really had a reality check with me all the time.

He noticed I was a dreamer. But what are you really doing about it? And I guarantee a week won't go by in your life. You won't regret walking out letting them get the best of you.

But Rudy had plenty of cause to be discouraged. When I got the rejection letters, it was very it's like that star. You're close but so far away. I'm desperate. If I don't get in next semester, it's over done. Notre Dame doesn't accept senior transfers. Well, you're a hell of a job kid chasing about your dream.

I don't care what kind of job I did. If it doesn't produce results, it doesn't mean anything. I think you'll discover that it will. In 1974, when Rudy finally won admission to Notre Dame, it's kind of like this is happening. He went after his next goal, a spot on the football team's practice squad. This is real stuff. This is not a dream. This is reality. You can get hit, you're gonna get knocked down, and you're gonna have to perform.

And he did serving on the Notre Dame practice squad for two bruising seasons. I got hit from the blind side when I thought I actually died. I got hit so hard didn't know you ever get hit by a truck? No. But if you got hit by a truck and you don't know what's coming, can you imagine what that feels like?

That's how it felt. So we'll talk about it a little bit in the after hours, but that was for Wayne. I got Wayne, and Wayne is just a dreamer.

He's just somebody who just really, he receives from God dreams, and he's really about everybody walking in their dreams. So we'll talk about it on the other side. Yeah, we will.

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