Breaking: ACLJ Secures Big Win Against the Deep State

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That's 1-800-684-3110. So on Friday evening, federal court Washington DC has ordered the Biden administration and the State Department to turn over to the ACLJ the unredacted Jensaki email regarding the newly confirmed Obama-Biden administration meeting about the Iran deal. This involves that glitch that they said which was actually an edit made in a video. And it goes back to the idea that the Obama-Biden team was negotiating with Iran, not when they waited for Rouhani and a quote unquote moderate Iranian President to be elected. But they were negotiating with Ahmadinejad who was one of the terrorists who held captive those Americans at the US embassy and was part of the Islamic revolution. And was again someone that publicly they said they would never deal with. So privately, this video is uncovered, this glitch is uncovered that the negotiations began under the Ahmadinejad years where Iran was at some of its most radical behavior domestically and internationally but especially domestically really flexing its muscles against its own people. And this court, the judges said you can't redact this.

This is not redactable information. You need to let the ACLJC which means the American people see it. Yeah, so the administration tried to claim Presidential privilege here and the district court judge said no, that this was a document not covered by the privilege and it went at great lengths explaining why it was not.

Which was a position of course that we advocated at the ACLJ. What's key on this is we knew there was something going on with Iran and the United States with diplomacy that the American people were not aware of. Now sometimes you don't know about ongoing diplomacy but they were publicly discussing it. They just weren't telling the truth and then they had this crazy situation where they had this video up explaining it and then they edited it and basically removed the parts that would be troubling for the administration.

I'll go to Andy on this and it was hide the ball and that's why we went to court. Well that's exactly what it was Jay was hide the ball but this federal district judge Timothy Kelly in an excellent opinion dissected the Presidential communication privilege which was what the state department was hiding behind in refusing to give us the Jen Psaki email. I think what's critical in this in addition is the fact that it's the Jen Psaki email that was redacted. Here was a person who was the press secretary for the state department and now she's just conveniently slided over to the White House and is going to be giving us the same line of information, disinformation or lies or deceit possibly that she gave while she was at state. What's interesting here is the meeting and what the decision actually was that was made during this has been kept private from the American people for five years. So it took we've been in court at least what three and a half I think Jordan at this point maybe four and you have to be patient because the court process moves in a particular way for years five years five years in litigation but now we're getting look they're going to appeal this this case could end up by the way this could be a Supreme Court case because you can bet that the state department is going to fight like crazy because this comes on the heels this decision of us filing the lawsuit. On Friday again against the Department of State for John Kerry's negotiations that he was doing during the Trump administration and there's a report I'll just tease it here for a moment that when Soleimani was killed.

Zareff gets a call from John Kerry and said by the way the United States has unbelievably attacked 2,000 sites in Syria and why would he share that information we're going to get into all of this and we're going to go to court to get the information that's why your support of the ACLJ makes such a huge difference. Yeah be part of our matching challenge month you've got time in April ACLJ.org double the impact of your donation that's ACLJ.org ACLJ.org we'll be right back on Secular taking your phone calls 1-800-684-3110. At the American Center for Law and Justice we're engaged in critical issues at home and abroad, whether it's defending religious freedom, protecting those who are persecuted for their faith, uncovering corruption in the Washington bureaucracy, and fighting to protect life in the courts and in Congress, the ACLJ would not be able to do any of this without your support.

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Welcome back to Secular. We are taking your phone calls to at 1-800-684-3110. Rick Grenell will be joining us in the next segment of the broadcast soon to talk about this. Again, the ACLJ, we've got the court order in this Freedom of Information Act request case. And this was the email that was kind of the, this is the, if you want to call it the smoking gun, the needle in the haystack, the why you've worked for five years on a case. It was the email the State Department did not want us to be able to read. They produced it, that it existed, that it was on point. That means that whatever is redacted there, it is on point. It is about exactly the issue of the video edit and negotiating with the Ahmadinejad-led government in Iran. And the federal judge said, let me take a look at this first. He did. And what he said was, this is not subject to Presidential privilege.

This is a district court level. We have to be ready now to fight this all the way up though, because again, it would be surprising that you never know with the US government, these bureaucratic agencies, it would be surprising because these people are now back in power. So Jidsaki's got an interest in keeping this redacted and they're trying to negotiate a new deal with Iran. So this could, this could damage.

Of course this could damage it because it's going to expose the truth. Now, you've got to understand this. The Biden administration, as soon as they got in, when they saw that the FOIA request was there, they didn't want to respond either.

And the deep state operatives certainly don't want to respond to this because they want to be able to hide the truth about not only disastrous Iran deal, but the timing of the negotiations and all that line about, oh, we got a moderate coming into Iran and that's why we're doing the negotiation. Now, none of that was true. All completely wrong. Now there will be no redactions in the emails.

None. Which means we're going to find out what the now White House press secretary, Jen Psaki, and other senior then Obama Biden officials were actually doing and who made the decision to delete and edit that email that was done to keep the American people in the dark. Harry, I said during the break, we have, this is a big win. I'm sure they will appeal this. Folks, this case could end up in the Supreme Court. I mean, it's that, it's that potentially big, but I think it's important for, you know, we poked the bear here on purpose because we want to get to the truth. We've got, we just filed another one on Friday, but this shows you exactly why we do what we do.

Absolutely. So at the ACLJ, we have consistently emphasized several things, including the necessity of defeating the deep state, and we have worked tirelessly to uncover deep state duplicity. And I think with this particular FOIA request, we have simply scratched the surface of premeditated and deliberate efforts by the deep state to hide information from the American people. And this move has unleashed a sleeping giant within the bureaucracy, and this means that our five-year-old request is simply the first of many revelations to come.

During the break, Colonel West, when I said we have poked the bear, said, oh Lord, here we go. I mean, this is a, it's a big deal, Wes. It is a big deal. And you know, the coverup, and that's really what this is about, is a coverup was not based on the necessity of sensitive privilege communications or national security concerns, protecting sources and methods. All of this was done, Jay, apparently for political cover. They knew that what they were doing would be perceived at best as ill-advised and at worst as against the interest of America itself. And all of it, Jay, is based on a lie, a set of lies to the American people. What do you think the ramifications involved?

I mean, these are big cases, folks, and we've got a series of these now. And then you've got the situation now with Zarif getting, it looks like, tipped off by Biden during the Trump administration, by Kerry during the Trump administration, with the 200 airstrikes to Syria. And Zarif says he was astonished to find this out. Why would John Kerry tell that to Zarif? Why wasn't he communicating with Zarif? No explanation. I mean, so this comes about in this leaked phone call where Zarif is talking to another Iranian official and he's complaining about Soleimani, he's complaining about the Revolutionary Guard.

Explain what Soleimani is. So he was the head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard until he was taken out by the Trump administration in an airstrike when he was flaunting international law because he's recognized as a leader of a terrorist organization. And he was taking private jets into Baghdad and places in Iraq.

And again, he was not very secretive about it. And the U.S., which labeled the Iranian Revolutionary Guard as a foreign terrorist organization, had an opportunity to take out the leader of a foreign terrorist organization and did. And so Zarif talks about the idea that diplomacy always loses to the Guard, whatever the Guard wanted to do in this leaked phone call. Somewhere in this phone call, because we're only getting portions of the leak, the New York Times reporting, he's talking about John Kerry giving a call talking about these 200 strikes on Iranian interest in Syria.

And Zarif is astonished, which either he's astonished because he's getting no reports from the Revolutionary Guard or because he's kind of in the dark about what they're doing. And that has always been what we've talked about with Iran is what they are doing outside of their normal operating, if you will, of a military that they are running front militaries all across the proxy wars, all across the Middle East. Well, so you wonder, and we filed a new lawsuit against the Biden State Department regarding John Kerry's secret meetings with Iran and his negotiations. But, Andy, I mean, putting the Logan Act aside, which, you know, that's what's interfering with foreign policy, because I have always questioned the constitutionality of that. The idea, and it's obviously important that we file suit to get to the truth in this, but you've got John Kerry, you know, talking to Zarif about U.S. airstrikes? Yeah, that's very disturbing.

I would say so. Yeah, that the former secretary of state, who now is playing a pivotal role in the Biden administration on climate and, gosh knows what other matters he's involved in, is tipping off Iranian leaders about American military action. It was Israeli action that was tipping off. Excuse me, Israeli action in Syria, excuse me, and tipping him off about information that he has no business getting involved in and what we're doing. So, you know, this is very disturbing because John Kerry is at the center of so many of these things that are happening in the Middle East with Iran, with Israel, with Syria, with so forth, trying to be a shadow negotiator when he has no business doing that. Not only is it a violation of American law, although, as you said, the constitutionality of the Logan Act may be at issue, but they didn't have any problem invoking the Logan Act surreptitiously or sideways when Michael Flynn was involved, did they?

No, it was Biden that was the one who was advocating it, actually, which I thought was unusual. But the ramifications of all of this, I think, Harry, are very, very serious. I mean, and getting to the bottom of it is very important. I think that is precisely correct, and I think to the extent that we can get to the bottom of this, we can also unravel the effort, and I would label it a conspiracy by global elites to keep the American people, A, in the dark, and to maintain absolute control over our lives. And I think you can make an analogy to what the State Department has done in the past and continues to do with respect to what has happened with respect to how the global elites have embraced authoritarianism with respect to the pandemic. And so they want absolute control. They don't believe in informing average working-class Americans about what the United States is doing.

They believe in a borderless world, which we are now seeing on our southern border, and it's all about subverting the interest of the American people to the interest of global elites. Let me go quickly to Wes, and then, as Jordan said, Rick Rinnell is joining us. Everybody that's watching on our multimedia social media platform, share it with your friends right now. Radio people, tell your friends too.

Send them texts. We've got Rick Rinnell coming up to talk about all of this. But, you know, the significance of the lawsuit is that the American people are going to get an answer.

Yes, absolutely. And they deserve an answer. And you look at what you were just discussing concerning John Kerry. Take the Logan Act out of the picture. My questions are, where did he get the information? Who on the National Security Council was leaking this to Ben Rhodes and John Kerry and others? Because we know that during the Trump administration, the NSC was leaking information like that.

And then also, as far as the legalities of this, Jay, it may or may not be prosecutable under the Logan Act, but if you share classified information, that is against the law. Quickly, you work with the State Department. You interface with the State Department. People don't understand that there's this entrenched bureaucracy there that's unreal. Yeah, there are career people that Presidents come and go, secretaries of state come and go.

They remain. And we have always contended both there and at the Pentagon and other places. That's where the real power is with the career civilians there. Yeah, and people think of the State Department as diplomatic, but really, a lot of the individuals there are front diplomats who are working in Intel. So there's a huge crossover in a much darker world, if you will, of Intel and what the CIA is doing, clandestine activity, and a lot of these bureaucrats. And so they guard their information. They guard what's available to the political inside. But what we do know about these bureaucrats is they are much more friendly to the left. So when the left comes in, it's open arms, let's all work together. When the right comes in, it's like pulling teeth to get them to do anything.

Because, again, though their job is to carry out the will of the elected government, they will drag their feet as much as possible. If they disagree with that, they'll actually try to undermine it because they've gotten so large and there's so much crossover in the Intel world. We'll talk about that with Rick Grenell when we come back on Secula. We are, again, part of Matching Challenge Month. Double the impact your donation at ACLJ.org. That's ACLJ.org.

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Welcome back to Secular. We are taking your phone calls, 1-800-684-3110. Our senior advisor for national security foreign policy, Rick Grenell, is joining us now.

And Rick, I want to go right to you. First reaction, this federal court judge after five years finally gets the email the State Department doesn't want the American people to see on the Iran nuclear deal. They claim Presidential privilege. He reads it and takes his time and says there's no Presidential privilege here. This needs to be unredacted, if you will. Now, the State Department has time to appeal.

I'm sure they will appeal. But I think what it underscores, Rick, is how long you've got to go, if you really want to go to battle against these actors. And President Trump did that his entire term.

These are long-term battles. Yeah, look, let's remember that my emails were turned over to BuzzFeed immediately without any interference. And so now what we need to say is the same, let's have the same standard. If my emails are going to get turned over, let's have the request granted that ACLJ is pushing forward. Secretary of State Blinken should absolutely come down on the side of transparency. This is legitimate, especially when we look at the news about John Kerry just recently. I think ACLJ is at the tip of the spear here.

And let's keep it going. You know, Rick, I want to talk to you about the fact that your emails literally, when you say immediately, I mean, you were barely, you know, the administration was barely in office. They released yours pretty much unredacted. We don't have a case in the ACLJ history of litigating against the government, which has been for decades, where that has ever happened. Until, of course, we didn't ask for yours. They did. And boom, they're released. So the doubles, you're right, the double standard here is unreal. But then I ask this question. What was John Kerry doing talking with Zarif while you all were in office putting your policies forward?

Well, I would go one step further. We know that he has been talking to Zarif. How in the world did he not get prosecuted for this? Why isn't there a standard when we see him clearly violating the law?

This is what frustrates many people, is that the double standard for violating the law is so atrocious. Look, we have to come to the conclusion that this is strategic, that this is not just an oversight or something that was a mistake. Clearly, the Department of Justice is moving towards political prosecutions.

Let's be honest. And so I think the next step is our senators have to stop talking and start hauling these people in and saying, why aren't you applying the standard in the same way? Where are our Republican senators?

Don't come asking us for money if you're not going to actually do things when you're in office. You know, Rick, I asked our colleague, and he's sitting right next to me here in the studio, Wes Smith, because he served in the military, worked out with the State Department, handled classified information. If you were to do what they did, you'd be court-martialed. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, Rick's right.

You can be prosecuted for this. And what we're dealing with are some of the most sensitive foundations of American foreign policy and national security. And to these people, it's evident that power and political advantage is more important to them than U.S. security and well-being. It's unreal, Jordan. Well, I mean, what I think is interesting, we can play this sound. John Kerry gets asked about it directly, this back in 2019, and he's denying, you know, he's denying what we now know he was doing. Take a listen, Bite9. Since the decision was made to pull out of the Iran nuclear agreement, from that time forward, this is a public issue, and I don't engage in any diplomacy on it in that way. There's been no back-channeling. No, I haven't had any back-channel on that issue since the decision was made to move out. And before that, it was not a back-channel. I mean, Rick, is that just another double-speak for what a back-channel is? Because he's not really saying, he's saying he's not using a back-channel, there's not a back-channel, but that doesn't, I don't know if he's just being careful about what he knows he's doing, which was meeting with Zarif and whatever he needed to get information to, and his deputies. Jordan, you just hit it on the head, he's using the word back-channel, which is an official term for diplomacy of an official back-channel endorsed by the Trump administration. So he's saying, no, I was not participating in any back-channel official negotiation, but let me be very clear, he was working with the Europeans and the Iranians, not in an official back-channel, but in an unofficial back-channel, in a way that undermined the Trump administration, and he worked with Democratic senators.

I know this to be a fact. You know, Andy, I was thinking about this, you're the wordsmith here in our team. Back-channel is a term of art, as Rick said, and now you've got a situation where Kerry says it wasn't a back-channel only because the Trump administration didn't approve it. Didn't mean the conversations weren't going on. Yeah, well, this is just an inartful way or an artful way of trying to circumvent the reality of the situation.

Let's just put it simply. This man, John Kerry, with whom the Biden administration and the Obama administration are so enamored, and I don't understand what the enamorata is here, but they're so enamored with him, was conducting his own secret private diplomatic relations with foreign governments and foreign nationals during the pendency of the Trump administration and doing things and saying things on behalf of the United States when he was out of office and had no business making any representations with respect to American policy. What right did he have to do that? No doubt, in my view, he was using classified information in his own fashion and in his own way through these back-channel ways. Artful ways of saying the same thing is just using information that he had no business transmitting.

He was not in office. So, Rick, what kind of harm does that cause when you're trying to get a policy out and Zaref is, we know, is close with Kerry to begin with? Well, first of all, it made it very difficult with the Europeans because they decided just to wait us out because they could see that John Kerry and other Democrats were not supporting this policy. And so it really undermined us with the Europeans. I think it's always important to remind our viewers that the Europeans don't have the same threat that we do when it comes to Iran. They don't see Iran as that threat and Iran certainly doesn't see the Europeans as a threat like they do the United States. So we should not be trying to allow the Europeans to somehow make our US policy. This is not something that we should defer to the Europeans on.

We should lead the Europeans on this issue. But let's also remember that evidence is emerging that John Kerry shared with the Iranians what the Israelis were up to. This is a very anti-Israel policy.

This is also by John Kerry. This is also when you look at Israel and you look at Iran, no one in their right mind is going to think that the United States or any person involved in the United States diplomatic world should come down on the side of Iran over Israel. This comes on the heels of, because there's a new engagement Rick, we've only got about a minute left, but there's a lot more information now about Iran. There's this leaked phone call between Zarephin and another advisor talking about John Kerry coming to him with this information about Israel, talking about how the Revolutionary Guard was running roughshod over his diplomatic ideas.

So it was enlightening, but at the same time, this is very relevant because this is an administration begging Iran to get back into it, begging Iran to let us back in, the United States, into this deal. I also think that there's one more thing to point out, which is that John Kerry knew about Israel's plans because it was US intelligence that were coordinating with the Israelis. There's no way that John Kerry knew what Israel was up to without US intelligence briefings.

The Israelis are not sharing information with John Kerry. Thank you, Rick. We appreciate your insight as always, Rick. Renell, of course, is a senior advisor to the ACLJ, a key member of our team, former acting director of national intelligence and ambassador to Germany. And let me tell you something, we've got a lawsuit filed Friday that covers this one too. Our government affairs team is jammed. Support the work of the ACLJ in this last phase of the Matching Challenge, ACLJ.org.

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That's 1-800-684-3110. And I think what Rick Renell just said was very important, and I want to reiterate that as we talk about what's happening with Iran, which is back in the news. Because the Biden administration is doing what they can to decrease the sanctions on Iran, putting all of that on the table to get back into a nuclear deal.

So suddenly, Iran is very relevant again to all the discussions, especially direct conversations between the United States and Iran. So it's not relevant in the sense of an act that we were battling on the battlefield, which we were under the Trump administration. And as Rick pointed out at the end, if John Kerry was sharing information about Israeli airstrikes or actions taken against Iranian interests in Syria, in 200 of those, there would be no way for him to get that information unless he got it from U.S. intel sources. So then he would be sharing U.S. intel with the Iranian foreign minister, which brings up a whole host of legal laws. We're not talking about the Logan Act anymore.

Now we're talking about the Espionage Act, laws that have teeth, laws that are constitutional, legal, that you could follow. And this is, again, John Kerry has acted as if nothing applies to him, and he's kept this conversation alive so that they hope to get back into this deal very soon. But you know what needs to be pointed out here, and I think this is critical, Harry, is that this was undermining the Trump administration's work in the Middle East, and there was a comprehensive plan being put forward. And that is precisely why John Kerry engaged in his misbehavior. He sought to undermine the Trump policy.

Section 18 U.S.C. Section 798 prohibits knowingly disclosing to an unauthorized person in a manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of foreign governments. So presumably John Kerry's disclosure of secret information regarding Israeli attacks on Iran was indeed classified. Presumably Iranian Minister Zarif is an unauthorized person. There's no evidence that President Trump authorized him to receive this information. So this means John Kerry's disclosures are against America's interests, and he ought to be subject to a criminal penalty. What was John Kerry during the Trump administration meeting with Zarif about?

Excellent question. Excellent question, you know, and part of it is, and I say this tongue in cheek, because they, quote unquote, they know better. They know much better than whoever happens to be President, than the American people, the interests of America itself. And so he felt perfectly entitled and legitimate to do this, quote, back channel. Although it wasn't a back channel, it was an illegal channel to go and to talk to one of America's adversaries and to undermine the foreign policy of the United States, which is directly a part of not just U.S. foreign policy that affects us domestically.

But look at all the Gulf states, the Arab nations, the Abraham Accords, Israel, that whole region of the world. There are vital critical issues at stake, but John Kerry, Jay, knows better than everyone else, and so he's entitled to do this. I know, but he played games in that soundbite we played earlier. He played games, he said, it's not a back channel, because a back channel is an official communication that's given by someone through the United States auspices. So, and he's technically right, he wasn't involved in a back channel. What he was involved in was a direct channel, as Will Haines points out, with Zarif, while another administration was in power. Yeah, well, of course, Jay, the reality is that the Democrats did everything they could from the day President Trump was inaugurated in office to undermine, to hurt, to harm, to do anything they could to compromise his administration and his pursuit of foreign policy in the world and especially in the Middle East.

And this is one example of that. Every single thing that the Democrats could possibly put into operation to undermine President Trump, who had tremendous successes in the Middle East, was done by the Democrats. Trump and, excuse me, Kerry leading the charge. I just think this is important. This is, you know, 2021, the headline of FoxNews.com right now is Iran's foreign minister says John Kerry told him about Israeli covert operations in Syria.

Think about that. This is again, talk about our legal battle, five years, all coming together because they're pushing this issue again. At the American Center for Law and Justice, we're engaged in critical issues at home and abroad, whether it's defending religious freedom, protecting those who are persecuted for their faith, uncovering corruption in the Washington bureaucracy and fighting to protect life in the courts and in Congress. The ACLJ would not be able to do any of this without your support.

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We are taking your phone calls to 1-800-684-3110. So all this information, it's unique that it's all coming to a point, of course, at the same time, and that's because the Biden administration is trying to push back into this nuclear deal with Iran, laying everything on the table about what they would do if they were to be able to get back into this deal. But now we know a lot of information. One, that Iran was flaunting this deal the entire time, the first time around, because of a new leaked tape between Iran's foreign minister, one of his deputies, and he says on there in the tape that the Revolutionary Guard is actively working with the Russians to undermine the deal. So even Iran's own diplomatic corps is admitting to not only by saying they're undermining, they're saying they're not actually going along, they are not abiding by the restrictions that they said they would, or the searches that they would.

In fact, that they were actively looking for ways to undermine the deal. So you had these two warring interests inside Iran. One has the guns, one doesn't.

And they, of course, the one with guns was getting their way. And so they didn't like this nuclear deal to begin with, they wanted to get the U.S. out. Now the U.S. is trying to get back, and the Iranian Revolutionary Guard is probably at a weaker point, it's definitely at a weaker point, because it has no real, not the same kind of dynamic leader it had in Soleimani. And because the United States took action to take out Soleimani. Now Mike Pompeo, who's former Secretary of State and, of course, Senior Counsel with the American Center for Law and Justice on Global Affairs, is going to be with us tomorrow.

He's going to be with us tomorrow to discuss all of this in greater detail. But he tweeted yesterday that our administration's exquisite strike on Soleimani has had a massive impact on Iran and the Middle East. You don't have to take my word for it, ask Zarif. And then he puts his Twitter, at Zarif, President Biden still thinks it was a mistake. And, of course, they could think it's a mistake, but the reality is you took out the guy that was causing the most harm in the region, a region you've been in, Wes. Yeah, who has the blood of countless American soldiers on his hands, too.

And Robert Gates, the former Secretary of Defense, is so correct when he says that Joe Biden has been wrong on every major foreign policy issue over the last 40, 45 years, and he's still wrong. And what is happening here is really political gamesmanship, Jay, that's out of control. Yeah, but I need to talk for a moment here about what we're doing about this, because obviously we're giving you a full analysis.

That's why you're watching this broadcast on multiple platforms or you're listening to us on radio stations across the country. But, Andy, we're taking direct action here. I mean, and it's complicated. We've been dealing with this FOIA request for almost five years, and now we've finally got the win. But it's just like the IRS case, three years of litigation. You've got to persevere when you're tackling the United States government.

Well, that's true, Jay, especially the government that we have in the deep state and the State Department that has been so obdurate and so obstructionist in giving us this information. The important thing is persistence. I'm a prosecutor by trade. That's what I do.

And I persist in getting information by coming back time and time again. Our FOIA litigation, which is persistent litigation aimed at getting information out of the government in the deep state, and occasionally and very frequently produces results like that that we got from Judge Kelly in the District of Columbia last week when he said you're going to give up Jen Psaki's email unredacted because the Presidential communication privilege does not apply. I know they're going to fight us on that, but guess what? We're going to fight back, too, on appeal in the D.C.

Circuit. I'm going to tell you right now, buckle up, folks. This one, they are going to fight with everything they've got to keep this private.

There is no way they're going to want this out publicly. So we've got an appellate team preparing on this. We're going to have a Supreme Court team ready to go. We have struck the bear, and the bear took one pretty hard. This is like the battle with Goliath.

He took five stones. He only needed one, David. So the first one worked, and we got the result. Now we've got to reload the slingshot, though, because they're going to fight back, Jordan, very, very hard here.

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And that's because of you and your support for the ACLJ. And at times you may say, oh, wow, this is taking a long time. Then look at the front pages today, turn on the news, and it's a flashback to exactly what we're fighting about. And so it all comes together. This is a very short time period in history and in U.S. foreign policy.

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That's ACLJ.org. Donate today. You know, there's another aspect of this too, Harry, and that is John Kerry not only, you know, had this bizarre relationship with Zarif, like buddies, with one of our biggest enemies, but he was doing the same kind of thing with the Palestinian Authority. Absolutely. With Mahmoud Abbas. And basically saying, just wait these people out for four years because they're going to lose. Of course, then they will change the policy and they put the exact same people right back into play. Absolutely.

But nothing changes. I think, number one, we should note that in dealing with the United States State Department and the embedded bureaucracy, we may need more than a slingshot. We may need a howitzer. Number two, the United States under the Obama administration has consistently and persistently been prepared to negotiate in secret with the Iranians, despite their stubborn support for terror, including their efforts to attack and undermine Israel. Third, it's beyond question that the Iran nuclear deal was designed and intended to be a subversive document. It was designed to do what? To provide cover for Iran's nuclear weapons ambitions.

So I think the Iran nuclear deal was designed deliberately to allow the Iranian nuclear program to continue and then to provide cover for the Western powers that negotiated this deal. I just, you wonder, now I know we're doing the right thing here. And by the way, Facebook audience is coming back on.

There was a glitch here and we lost you for a minute, but you're back on. But I wonder here, you know, they've got such a clear, into my mind, a clear plan and a clear methodology that they were using. And then now we're going to find out what they were doing, which are going to fight us on tooth and nail.

But we won again in federal court because of your support of the ACLJ. And now we've got people like Rick Rinnell and Mike Pompeo as part of our team, which gives us even more ability to do these kinds of things. But John Kerry is also right now, Jordan, the climate czar. Yes, he's, he's back in there.

Yeah. So really all that does is take that name, you know, whatever his title is, they just put these guys back inside the White House to act on behalf of the United States internationally. He's like an ambassador now, but he's actually more than ambassador because he's like, he's a direct meeting with the Chinese.

He's direct. He's an ambassador is meeting as on behalf of the US government. Now there's some, there's people like Rick who had close relationships with the President. So, you know, if you're one of those countries that this is someone who's speaking really for on behalf of the government for real. And then there's other ambassadors when you get to countries that are not as prominent, don't have the same kind of world power that are usually part of the diplomatic core. And they're kind of just more there for the interest of the United States and not necessarily speaking on a daily or even weekly basis or ever with the President directly. But John Kerry, by being a White House official, is representing Biden.

So that's a step up in that sense. You are an emissary for the President of the United States who can make these, a lot of these foreign policy decisions without Congress. And Andy, the reason we go to court is to get to the truth. That is what we are seeking here.

That's exactly what we always seek when we seek justice and justice shall you pursue as the biblical injunction is. We go to court because we want to get to the bottom. We use the law that exists, the Freedom of Information Act.

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Give a gift today online at ACLJ.org. So you have a top Iranian diplomat claiming that John Kerry is leaking information about covert Israeli operations to Iran when he was Secretary of State. This is a leaked phone call between Zarif, the foreign minister of Iran, and one of his deputies, and that has been leaked to the New York Times. This is very relevant right now because the Biden administration is back to the negotiating table, willing to let up on basically the entire array of sanctions that are in place on Iran, including their oil industry, the shipping, transport, medical, all of the kinds of equipment they can get in to get back to a nuclear deal. I mean, the U.S. is bidding over backwards, if you will, to try and let it – that's so sad because they're doing that to try so that Iran will negotiate with us. We'll put in a good point during the break here, and that is when John Kerry was in China, Harry, he tells the Chinese, we're going to negotiate climate change and we're going to have to separate out the human rights issue. We're not going to get into that. When he's dealing with the Iranians, we're going to talk about this nuclear deal, but we're not going to talk about that you're the largest exporter of terrorism in the world.

That's his M.O. Precisely. And he's now back in power. Precisely. So one of the things to keep in mind is that the United States State Department and the United States government theoretically have an interest in reducing genocide and human rights violations. But within the parameters of the Biden administration, all of those things are now secondary, secondary to issues such as climate change or to restarting the Iran nuclear deal. So what are we really seeing take place right before our own eyes within the parameters of the Biden administration?

The Biden administration is subverting stalwart U.S. policy, opposing human rights, opposing terror to what? Climate change. And no one knows, in my view, what the real endgame is with respect to climate change because the Biden administration is now saying that virtually everything has to do with climate change.

So climate change is infrastructure under their current definition. But, you know, the problem with all of this is that we have a situation where this is serious negotiations, or supposed to be. The Iranians are up to no good. I mean, is there any, the government, I'm not talking about the people, the Iranian regime is up to no good. This is not a regime you can trust. As Jordan said, they violated the JCPOA before it even started. They had no intent now we're getting all the leaked information out. And then we had John Kerry doing his, you know, escapades over there.

Yeah, and you have to wonder what his motive is and what he's thinking. I mean, the Iranians have proven very willingly over and over again that they cannot be trusted, that they will cheat. The JCPOA doesn't even forbid them from getting a weapon, it delays it for 10 years. Meanwhile, what are they doing? They went from 5% enriching uranium to 60% and they've increased their centrifuges by over a thousand centrifuges. I mean, Jay, it's a dangerous world and our adversaries have ramped up in a way that we've not seen in several years. And the threat to world peace and the national security issues for the United States have never been more important. And you have to wonder what in the world are they thinking? Yeah, I mean, this is, again, you know, you look at this, you realize that John Kerry is ratting out Israeli covert operations in Syria.

Unreal. To the Iranians, to exporters of terror, leaders of a terrorist regime. Syria is part of Iran. That's the asymmetrical warfare.

And we're using kibbutz for weapons on their own people. So remember, I mean, this idea, again, that you would even have this kind of relationship that's developed. I think if you dive into the Kerry-Zareff relationship, they're running John Kerry, is what you got, those situations.

They found somebody that he wants to have tea with that can be his buddy, be his friend. It's a mark. They mark John Kerry. They make him relevant way past his prime. This is a guy who got beat in the Presidential election, gets to come back as Secretary of State. Then after he's done with being Secretary of State, I mean, he's older, he's still getting utilized by them, just like the Palestinians were. And then he's brought back in with a very small position, but it's a position that allows him to travel the globe and speak on behalf of a President who barely speaks. So they know he's close to Biden. These guys are in the Senate together for most of their life. So if he speaks, this is the perfect operative, the perfect person that they've turned to their side. And his dedication to it, I think, is what underscores that.

He didn't let this go when it was done his time in the spotlight. No, but we got this order from the district court judge that says we get the documents. But let me be clear here, and I'm going to Andy on this. We are preparing. They are going to file a notice of appeal to the D.C. Court of Appeals. This is a big case with a big disclosure, and they're going to fight with everything they have. And it is conceivable that this case heads up to the Supreme Court.

Jay, I think you're absolutely correct. We know that the disclosure of Jen Psaki's email in its entirety probably will be earth-shaking in the revelation with respect to whether the State Department lied about negotiations and how this deletion of this relevant portion of the video took place. They're not going to let that go out without a battle. We have an expression in Georgia, hit dog barks. And you're going to hear a lot of barking from the State Department. They're going to bark in the Court of Appeals, and they're going to bark in the Supreme Court.

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