Quarterback Contract Questions (Hour 3)

One of my favorite days of the year, opening day. So many great memories growing up as a kid, going to the ballpark with mom and dad. And now joining us on the hotline actually is a Hall of Fame pitcher and an absolute legend. And he pitched for the Braves for many years and then also did wrap up his career with the Mets. And that of course is Tom Glavin who joins us right now.

Tom, appreciate the time. How are you? I'm great. How are you doing, Zach?

Well, I'm doing fantastic. So let me start you off with a bunch of baseball issues or big baseball talking points right now. Let's go with the World Baseball Classic because that's always of a big debate. Are you a fan of the World Baseball Classic?

I think I am now, yeah. I don't know how I felt about it initially, but I think now that it's kind of up and running and growing some roots, I think it's exciting. I think it's good for the game, certainly grows the game internationally.

So I think buying for the most part, yeah, I'm in on it. Now, as a pitcher, would you have wanted to be a part of it? Because I know Rob Manfred was saying we'd like to get more pitchers involved, especially with the United States. Yeah. I mean, I think that's something that I would pursue as well. You look at the United States team line up offensively and it's full of stars.

You look at their pitching and there's a lot of guys you don't know. So I would like to see something done about that. Now, I think every guy has their own reasons, right? I think there were times in my career that I probably would have been in and I would have loved to do it. There might have been some other times during an off season where I might have thought, eh, I'm not feeling real great and I'm not sure that I'm going to be ready to start facing hitters that quickly. So I think a lot of it has to do with, obviously, how guys feel.

But assuming guys feel good and feel like they can get ready for it, I think I'd like to see more guys try and do it. Some people say Tom Glavin, the Hall of Famer, joins us right now. They need to move the World Baseball Classic. If they moved it to after the baseball season, I don't see how you would get more players to go.

So what are your thoughts on that? Yeah, I don't know that there's a perfect time, right? I mean, I think the downside early in the year, obviously, is that guys maybe are not as ready as they would like to be. And there's always a concern for guys being ready that early to go out and start competing at such a high level. But I think that's a better concern than trying to get guys to play when the season is over. Because either, you know, you're gonna run into guys who have played in the postseason, who are obviously super tired. You're gonna run into guys who late in the year have injuries and, you know, maybe shouldn't be playing.

So I think you have issues on either end. I think you have a chance for guys to be healthier having it before spring training than you would having it after the season. The pitch clock, do you think it's good for baseball?

I think it is so far, yeah. Look, I mean, there are things about it that I think are gonna have to be ironed out maybe a little bit. I mean, look, most of the games that I've watched have been a lot crisper than we're used to seeing. There's not a lot of downtime. There's not a lot of dead time. And I think that was an issue for baseball. I think, you know, when you coupled the concerns of the three outcome game along with a lot of dead time, I think, you know, games were dragging and you were losing a lot of people because it just weren't interesting. I think at least now where there's not a lot of dead time in between pitches, it seems like there's more action.

There seems like there's more going on. And I think that's more enticing for people to watch. Now, I just, you know, I think we all will love the crispness of it. We're all gonna hate it the minute our team loses a game on a pitch clock violation one way or the other.

So let's hope that doesn't happen. Blake, here's the thing that I wonder, and I think it's great for Major League Baseball, but like through the first 130 games, I think it'll be really good when the games start to matter more down the stretch or in October baseball with the playoffs. I just wonder how strict they're going to be with the pitch clock.

Well, I agree, right? It's like, and that's no different than most sports, right? You see most sports, you know, me being a huge hockey fan, you know, you see a lot of ticky tack penalties called during the regular season that, you know, don't write well, are not going to get called on the postseason. So that's one of those things that I think you see in every sport. Now, it would be interesting to see how Major League Baseball deals with that because I agree with you. You're right. They might be a little bit more lenient.

How they're going to be lenient about it, you know, remains to be seen. But, you know, to your point, particularly in the postseason, you know, I don't think it's a big deal for the most part to get on the mound and throw a pitch within 15 seconds when there's nobody on base, right? I would argue, like, what the hell are you doing in between pitches that you can't do that?

Now, with a guy on base, that's a little different. And I think it's going to be interesting to watch particularly younger pitchers at this part of the season because every pitcher who's been and gotten to the big leagues, we've all been told the same thing at one point or another early in our career. Look, when guys start getting on base and, you know, things start getting hairy out there, you got to find a way to slow the game down. Well, it's hard to slow the game down in your mind when you got a pitch clock bearing down on you. So, that's going to be interesting to keep an eye on here early in the season with guys. And I think that really becomes interesting in the postseason because you really do have to slow the game down and there's so much on the line. It's going to be hard for guys to do that at times.

And you would know better than me, Tom Glavin, but I also wonder how much of an advantage it actually does become for a pitcher because you don't have to think as much. Well, I mean, that's part of it. I mean, you know, look, I think when people would ever ask me about games and, you know, a game that I was on and, you know, what were you thinking out there? You know, I'd always say, well, truth be told, I wasn't thinking all that much.

And sometimes you'd get somebody to look at you like, what? And my point is when you're having a game where you're on a roll and things are, you know, you're in the zone, so to speak, you don't think a whole lot. It's really, give me the ball. What pitch do I want to throw? Where do I want to throw it? Let's go.

Here we go. You know, the games where you're not quite on and you're kind of scuffling to find something, you think a lot more. You're trying to think about your mechanics a little bit. You're trying to find feel. So you're thinking about, well, what did that pitch feel like? You know, you're thinking a little bit more along the lines of, you know what, normally this might be a really good pitch right here, but I don't have feel for that pitch tonight.

So I might have to go to something else. So all that stuff starts coming into your brain. Uh, but may, you know, it might help some guys. It might help, you know, that, that, that elimination of dead time might help some guys for sure. Get more in the mode of, give me ball. Let me make a pitch and get away from thinking about mechanics and some of those other things that can get most of us in trouble.

Do you also like the, uh, the shift banning the shift Tom Glavin? I don't know how I feel about that. Right. Again, it's another one of those things. It's like, well, you know, if, if you stand in the batter's box as a hitter and there's nobody in the left side of the field, we'll just hit the ball over there.

Right. And I know I've had heard guys say, well, it's not that easy. And I know it's not that easy. I've heard guys say, well, it's just so much harder to hit in today's game. That part I'm not so sure I buy into, but, um, you know, it is what it is. I, you know, I think for me personally, I might've been a little bit more of a fan of a hybrid situation, kind of maybe easing into it. And by that, I mean, okay, if you want to shift, then you, you have to shift the same way, the whole at bat, you can't change your shift once there's two strikes, or if you're going to shift and you want to load up one side of the infield, everybody's got to be on the dirt.

You can't have somebody roping. I might've been a little bit more of a fan of some of that hybrid adjustment rather than just the all out ban. But again, I think, you know, the dilemma baseball had, you're trying to create more offense, you're trying to create more strategy. And I think the numbers in spring training bore that out a little bit, you know, runs were up, hits were up, games were faster.

That's a perfect scenario for baseball. Let's just hope that continues in the regular season. We saw the Padres going a little bit of a run last year, Tom Glavin, get to the NLCS, and then they lose to the Phillies. We all know, and you know, it's a crapshoot once you get into the postseason, but how loaded that team is, and they got even better this off season, adding Xander Bogarts, and eventually you'll get Fernando Tatis Jr. back. You've been on those teams that have been the team to beat. How do you think they'll handle those expectations this year?

Well, I mean, that's always interesting to see, right? I know, I think when I look back in my career, you know, when we won in 91, it probably was easier than 92 and every year after that, right? Because now you're, you're the mark team. You're the team with expectations and everybody's gunning for you. It's a little bit harder to play under the guise of expectations than it is kind of being the dark horse. Certainly San Diego, yes, your point is one of those teams that a lot of people are looking at and saying, man, you know, these guys aren't, you know, number one in the power rankings, so to speak.

They're, they're certainly in the top five. So, you know, expectations can be a difficult thing for guys to manage, whether it's individually or as a team. No question that team has, has a ton of talent.

Again, I always, you know, I always, I always look at the thing from a pitching standpoint and that's certainly not a lineup that you're going to look forward to pitching against when it's your day to go out there and throw the rubber. But, you know, having said that, they, they have to prove that they can do it, right? Because I think they're one of those teams over the, over the last couple of years anyway, that has been that team that a lot of people are looking at and they just haven't been able to get over the hump, whether it's been because they haven't been able to put this together or guys have gotten hurt or, you know, tattoos suspension. There's, there's been a number of things that seem to have derailed them. And I think they have to prove not only to everybody outside their organization, but I think also to themselves that, you know, yeah, we are a good team and we can live up to the billing.

Now let's go out there and do it. Wrapping up with the hall of famer, Tom Glavin here with us at the Zach Gelb show on CBS Sports Radio. I say this as a Met fan, but I still think the Braves are the team to beat in the NL East, even with the great run that the Phillies went on, and eventually they'll get Harper back. Do you still view the Braves as a team to beat in the NL East?

You know, I'm, I'm always kind of error on the side of the, the reigning champions are the team to beat until somebody takes them out. You know, the Braves are, are division winners again. So I think that lands them in that spot. Now, having said that, obviously everybody in the division got better. Philly got better. The Mets got better, unfortunately for the Mets, you know, the injury that they're going to have to figure out, but you know, that the national league is going to be a tough division again. And, and, you know, certainly it will come down to whatever team handles their business in that division the best.

Um, but I, you know, I, I, I think I would pick the Braves, but I would certainly not be surprised to see either the Mets or the Phillies end up winning the division when the year is over. What happened with Vaughn Grissom, by the way, I thought he was going to make the big league club right out of camp. Is it just that they want him to improve on his defense? I think so. I mean, I think that's one of those guys and there'll be other guys this year that you'll, you'll watch and you'll, and it will be intriguing. Um, I think given, given the ability to play under the shift, I think maybe, I don't want to say maybe, I think for sure. Um, it, it took a, it, it, it hid some of his lack of range, so to speak now with no shift, I think guys who don't have as much range get, get exposed a little bit. And I think, I think you're going to see that with a number of guys in baseball this year that, you know, you're going to be saying to yourself, well, huh, how come he's not getting to that ball anymore? Or, you know, he got to that ball last year or, you know, that kind of thing. So I think for a lot of guys, the shift, uh, is, is going to show a lot about their range and their mobility. And I think Vaughn was one of those guys that, uh, it became apparent that he was one of those guys and he was going to have to work on, on that aspect of his defense. I know that it's a, it's a marathon, not a sprint and these things happen through a course of a season today, Justin Verlander, uh, placed on, on the IL. You also saw Max Reed start the lead the game with the hammy, probably heading on IL as well. Just when that happens right out of the gate, that's just gotta be so deflating because you have this new life, this new hope, right?

The season's here and it's just a miserable way to start off the year. Yeah, it is. But I think that that's where organizations who do their due diligence and, and, you know, think about these things, you know, that's where the depth of the organization comes into play. Right. And, and particularly when it comes to pitching, I mean, most, most organizations will tell you today, and they probably said it the same in my day too. You can never have enough pitching. And I think that's more true today than it was in my day, because, you know, so many guys go on and off the injured list that, uh, you have a bunch of transactions in your, in your pitching staff every year. So, uh, that's where depth comes into play. But I think most teams will tell you, Hey, if we're going to have one of our guys go down, would rather have them go down early because we have a chance to recover.

Uh, when they go down late, it's hard to recover from that. I think this is the last year for Tani with the angels. A lot of people say, maybe it's the Dodgers, maybe it's the Mets.

Where do you think Otani is playing next year? Yeah. I mean, I certainly think one of those two teams are in the mix and the Yankees as well.

Right. I know if you're Otani and you're going to become a free agent, uh, or you're going to get into that situation, those are three of the teams you definitely want in the, in the game, so to speak. So, uh, I'm sure those three teams will be there and they'll always, you know, look, there's always a surprise contender somewhere along the line. Teams have gotten, uh, you know, some of the smaller, um, revenue teams have gotten more and more creative.

We're trying to get guys, uh, in those situations. So, uh, there'll be more teams in the mix, but like I said, I I'm with you. I would probably start with those three teams right off the bat. It's going to be fascinating though, because we know we all want to see the angels get into the playoffs. You could have trout and Otani, but that team doesn't have, in my opinion, world series expectations. If they get that sense that he's not going to resign.

And let's say there may be in it for a wildcard spot, how they will handle that towards the deadline. Well, I mean, your, your, your hands are, your hands almost forced, right? If you, if you're, yeah.

And if, and if you certainly get to a point where you think, you know what, I'm not so sure we can sign this guy and you got to try to get something for him, you know, you don't want to just see him walk away. So I know you're from Massachusetts and obviously we're a great hockey player. Are you all in on the Bruins? Is that your team? Yeah, they are.

Yeah. What a year. I mean, when the year started, I was hoping they were just going to stay above water with, you know, Marshawn hurt and, and McAvoy hurt and, you know, somehow they got off to a great start and it just hasn't stopped. I mean, they, you know, like what we're talking about with these baseball teams, right?

They've got a kind of depth and it's really played a role for them this year, but yeah, they've been, they've been some kind of fun to watch. Well, if my Rangers meet the Bruins in the Easter conference final, Tommy, I have to go to a game. Yeah, we'll have to do that. We'll have to have a little friendly, little wager on that one.

Would you omit this? There's nothing like a Stanley cup playoff environment, but do you think it's better than the baseball environment? Look, I love baseball. I love going to baseball games, but if I had to spend money to go watch one sport live, it's probably going to be a hockey game. Stanley hockey, if it's a Stanley cup playoff hockey game, now you're really talking.

There's nothing like it. Well, Tom, always great to catch up with you. Appreciate the time. Thank you. All right. Have a good night. You got it. There he is. The hall of Famer, Tom Glavin on the Zach Gelb show on CBS sports radio.

That actually raises a good question. Picky, you have unlimited funds, but I'm telling you, you could only go to one playoff sporting event. Which one is it? What playoffs, you could go to all the games, as many as you want, but you could only choose to go to one sport playoffs for a year. Which one would you pick? You could go college basketball. You could go college football. You could go NFL, NBA, MLB, or hockey. For me, it would be hockey. I will say college football with the notion of no, that it's expanding. You're going to get home playoff games.

Like it's tough. I think to me, the best atmosphere in sports is college football games. Now you're going to get at least one round at teams home stadium, so that should be just raucous. That'd be bonkers.

The tough part is it's only one round, so it's mostly neutral sites, but those atmospheres are great. I would go college football. Okay. I would go Stanley Cup playoff hockey.

That would just be me. You're listening to the Zach Gelb show. Time for your daily news brief. We get you caught up on the rumors, reports, and reconnaissance from the day in sports. Let's hear it from Brandon Staley, the coach of the Chargers. He says the early contract talks with Justin Herbert have gone well so far. I think we're at the beginning of all of that, but we all know how we feel about him, and I think navigating this process, we have a very good relationship with his team, and I'm confident that Justin Herbert's going to be our quarterback for a long time, and that we'll make sure that we get a great deal done. Let's also hear more from Brandon Staley on if a contract extension with Herbert will be completed by the start of training camp.

I don't know. I think these contracts are really complex. You're talking about a lot of different things, and there's other quarterbacks certainly that are going through the same thing right now, so just be patient, but the major takeaway is that Justin Herbert is going to be our quarterback, and we're so excited that he's leading our franchise. So, Hickey, it seems like right now the quarterbacks that we talked the most about for an extension out of the young guys, just with also when they got drafted and when they're up for one, pretty much you start to have those conversations. It's Herbert and Burrow from the same draft class, and then also Jalen Hurts from the same draft class as well, even though Hurts went in the second round, the other guys were first round picks. Tua, there's no talks of an extension because you just want to make sure that he can get through a season, and them just giving him a fifth year option pretty much is the extension that he's going to get at this point, unfortunately.

But with those three quarterbacks, I will say this. It benefits the teams to get the deal done first, but I don't think the teams actually have leverage because if I'm a player, like, for example, Joe Burrow or Jalen Hurts, I think it's clear or I know it's clear you're the franchise quarterback for that team, so therefore it maybe benefits you to see if you're all about getting the most money. Like, if I'm Burrow, I'm saying, okay, Justin Herbert, I'm better than you.

I've done more than you so far in this league. Get his deal done, and then for Jalen Hurts, even though he's done a really good job the last two years, he had that one year of great success, not that Burrow's ancient, so maybe Burrow's thinking if he's all about taking the most money possible, not giving a discount, let those two guys get their deals done, and then you'll slightly make more money per year when Herbert resets the market, and then Jalen Hurts resets the market as well. So I think it's more individually driven than team driven. Yeah, the team has to be willing to negotiate, and all those three guys' teams should be willing to negotiate, but the way that I look at it right now, the player has the advantage because they determine when they want to sign the contract. The interesting part about these three guys that, not like Herbert is not a team guy, but I can easily see both Joe Burrow and Jalen Hurts taking a quote-unquote discount, if you will, or doing them a Holmes-esque deal, like 10 years and more spreading it out.

I wonder then if you're going to do it that way, how inclined you are to wait. I don't think the Eagles would do a 10-year deal. The Bengals, see, the Bengals confuse me because the Bengals always have that stench still of kind of like cutting corners, like you go back to who was the player that told us they used to make them pay for replacing the jock strap. Was it Takio Spikes? I think it was, that sounds about right. Did I just pull that name out of thin air?

That sounds about right. It was a player that was not there or like a legendary Bengals player, but was there on the team. Yeah. Oh yeah. The Bengals started his career and then when he went to Buffalo, he was like, oh, this stuff is free.

The Gatorade's free. And TJ Houshbanzada also told a similar story as well. So the Bengals, even though they have grown a lot as a franchise, it's like now is the first time in a while where you really take them seriously because you think they could win a Superbowl. But like when they had Marvin Lewis, Marvin Lewis did wonders for that franchise, but they never won a playoff game. So now with Burrow, the fact that he got them to a Superbowl, you do have that feel of, okay, they should change significantly.

But at the end of the day, you don't really know how much they have changed. But when I, when I look at it, it wouldn't shock me at the end of doing the 10-year deal because they think that he's their franchise quarterback, you know, he's the franchise quarterback. And then for them, even though it looks like at like when the home sale happens, like, oh my goodness gracious, the 450 something million dollars for 10 years. What a crazy contract.

But with the prices just keep on going up and up and up. If you know you have your guy, you're, he's all going to be a legendary quarterback. Then it does benefit you, even though there's always a risk in case of injuries pop up and there's been protection issues in Cincinnati, it does make sense to do it because then three, four, like not even three, four years really with my homes where you go, wow, that's a bargain. It's a steal. So if I'm going to say any team does the 10-year deal out of the Chargers, who also you can make the same case as the bangles, the Chargers, the Eagles and the bangles, I would say it's the bangles. I would agree.

I think Joe burrow has done enough to earn that. Now look, the bangles don't let them get hot. They do have an indoor facility coming for the first time. They just put pay core in the stadium instead of Mike Brown. So they get some extra money.

This is, this is a brand new, this is a new leaf that the bangles have turned. Also, here's the other part of this. We talk about the individual leverage. Any of those three guys going to say fully guaranteed deal? I mean, the guy that has the best case for a fully guaranteed deal is burrow.

He's done the most to him and hurts. At least they've done the most to earn it. Although burrow has done it for an extra year.

So you could say burrow has done the most. But could you imagine if let's just say Herbert who, if he wants to say a fully guaranteed deal, I don't have any problem with it. But then if he gets annoyed to like a level that Lamar's annoyed with the Ravens, and I know it's different cause Herbert has an agency. You don't hear all those conversations, but if he's really so caught up on getting a fully guaranteed contract, it's like, if you're the charges, you're kind of screwed because imagine if they say eventually, okay, we're not going to give that to Herbert.

It's like you almost would be forced into doing it. I just wonder if any of the three are going to do that. I don't think any of the three will, but the irony of the next two teams to give a fully guaranteed deal being the bangles of the chargers would be hilarious. I'm there for that.

That would be fun. But I would say probably in the pecking order, Herbert gets a deal done first, then it's hurts and then it's burrow. And that's not in who's deserving of the contract first. It's kind of like who's deserving of it the least, even though they're all deserving because if I'm hurts, if I'm burrow, you had the playoff success.

I would say, let everyone else kind of reset the market first. Alrighty, let's go to John Marry. He jokes that he doesn't want Brian Dable to turn into a bozo.

What was this based off of? Just wondering. Just a success from year one and now not cutting, kind of sitting on your laurels.

Okay. He doesn't want to start to kind of be like Joe judge or McAdoo more so. Remember McAdoo had that one year and then it was a disaster ever since.

It's on Sirius XM NFL radio. We kid him. I mean, right now he's Bono walking around New York City, but I've told him, I said, in this business, it doesn't take long to go from Bono to bozo. So don't get your head too big right now, but no, he has been great. And I mean, he goes to, he likes to go to ranger games at the garden and they put his picture up there and he gets these standing ovations week after week. Um, so it's, uh, it's, it's a pretty cool thing to see though. So I've seen Dable at a bunch of games. I did not know this though, but last time he went to a game, he tweeted this out and he's been to more than a handful and he went to a bunch of playoff games last year. You know, Dable has never lost. The Rangers have never lost when Dable's in attendance. He tweeted that out. Yeah. I forget how many fingers, I think it was like seven or eight and he was like seven or no, eight or no, something like that.

Cause he's never seen a loss at the garden. I wouldn't have put that into the universe. That's me. That's the biggest lie in the world. I have, I have perfect, perfect fruit.

Uh, perfect proof. I am currently right now on the street. I don't want to even say the team one team I root for. I have been on a streak of like now going on eight years. I've not seen them lose in person. Oh, Penn state. I have not said it. Penn state football. I couldn't, I could probably do the math and figure out the number.

He's got a bunch of these JV games that don't matter. I have not said the number. I will not say the number. It's Penn state. What's the number.

I don't know. I have not calculated, but since I graduated, I have not seen them the last game. I saw them losing a person 2015. My last game as a student, last game as a student, white out 12 o'clock game. Talk about it.

A terrible way to go out. Awful. Jim Harbaugh's first year. Good. Oh, he had a loss to Michigan. That's great. But since then I've seen a few Michigan white out wins. All these irrelevant. I've seen Auburn wins.

I do not. I've seen a big 10 championship. I seen a Rose bowl victory. What I have not done is seen a big 10 championship. That's it tweet out my, uh, record of, or the streak that I'm on. But what you do is you then leads a Rose bowl drunk as a skunk and you start saying they're going to be in the college football playoff six year. No big deal today. That's right. You tweeted Barrett Salih, who is a pain in the ass when it comes to his braids.

And I told him that before. And he's like, Oh, it's funny how much real estate the Mets have embraced fans heads. Barrett knows that this is over and that this is going to be the Mets here. The Mets are back. And then literally less than an hour later, the hickey hex work. And then Justin Verlander is on the aisle. They're wanting to know what hacks stop. Third time in first place.

And then Justin Verlander comes one 62 and L stop it. The the fact that you're playing innocent here. Oh, I would never post something like that. You said that the Rangers were going to, that you reserve in your spot at the parade last year, and then to own a conference final thinking about it. No, you said it. I think thinking I tweeted thinking about it.

Oh, you dance around everything. Kevin Durant on how he felt after returning to the lineup last night. It felt good. Um, you know, misplanned, miss being with the guys. Um, so good win for us and we needed this one. Um, but yeah, I felt good being out there again.

Six games left in the regular season. Katie says he's hoped to develop some chemistry with his teammates soon. I'm looking forward to keep building though, man has been in and out the lineup for me to last since January, you know, so I want to get some consistent minutes with the guys, some good reps in with the guys.

And then today was Anthony Richardson's pro day, Anthony Richardson on what he's been working on this offseason via the NFL network. No, I just been working, you know, uh, at times I was very inconsistent throughout the season, you know, so I was just trying to put that behind me. You know, trying to stay consistent because I know inconsistency is not going to work at the next level. So I just been grinding at that, just trying to, you know, perfect my craft and perfect who I am as a person and coming out here. It's okay. So what I'm able to do, you know, I'm a natural thrower, you know, so she's been out there launching a ball and just tossing around my brothers, you know, that's just what we normally do.

Anthony Richardson and why he was so inconsistent at Florida last year. You know, living up to other people's expectations, you know, um, I put a lot of pressure on myself, you know, cause I want to be great and I want to be great, you know, I want to be the best in the world. So, um, I know I'll never be perfect, but you know, I try to work towards perfection. And if I'm not working towards that, you know, I get in my head a little bit or what I used to, but then I started to realize I can control everything.

I can only focus on my job and focus on what I'm able to do, you know, so just working on that and putting that behind me, that's letting me become a better player. I really liked his first answer. Hickey that last answer. That's a little bit concerning. Why are you so inconsistent with other people's expectations?

That's you listen to the outside noise a little bit too much. And then what, when there's actually expectations, you don't show up and you don't play well. You don't think when you get drafted in the first round, there's going to be regardless of where you go top five out to the top five, there aren't going to be big expectations.

It's going to be as crazier than it was at Florida, even with those, you know, ridiculous fans in the swamp. And when it's in your own head like that, it's very easy to say, Oh, I've put it past me. It's actually very difficult in reality to have it play out that way. That's like, I was about to say, and I just wanted to get both clips in. Cause I know we're up against it. After the first answer, we had a little bit more time where it'd be like, Oh, that's a wonderful answer.

And then the second answer, I'm like, Ooh, that really stood out to me. That was a, not the greatest answer in the world. All right. Anyways, that guilt show CBS sports radio. That's a news brief. Now we'll be able to toss it to an update where I tried to toss it to an update at about like 15 after the hour. I don't know why.

Maybe it's just muscle memory. I was looking forward to rich Ackerman joining us. I would have gladly come in. Yeah. You got to get home a little bit earlier. It may mess up some of the affiliate stuff. Give me a heads up.

I would have gladly done it. It's the second time in three weeks that I've said, all right, we'll, we'll go to a break. But first up with the latest CBS sports 15 past the hour acts not here. I don't know why that is. You're listening to the Zach Gelb show. Zach Gelb show CBS sports radio, by the way, Hickey, you made it to the family group chat today. I did.

Oh boy. So when I there's multiple family group chats that I have, but I have one between my dad, my uncle, and my brother-in-law that is a New York Rangers only family group chat where we text habitually during every ranger game. So I just got a text after the ranger scored and my dad wrote cries captain Chris. Cause that's what I call Chris Crieder. I call him captain Chris. Cause I thought he should have been the captain. And I will say Jacob Truba did do a nice job in helping turning around the season when he was just throwing his helmet all over the ice in that game that I was at up against the Chicago Blackhawks.

So then I wrote when it's two, one let's win the game and regulation and get these two points and have the comeback. Then my dad responds, Hickey, Hickey is the best. You wrote Hickey is the best. That's you. What's the context.

He just wrote Hickey is the best there. I feel like it's some sort of sarcasm here or a joke or well, remember my dad is kind of like, he's not old yet. Like I don't look at him as being really old.

Jesus is turning. He is 63, I believe. So he is up there in age, but he's not like, I don't think of him as like being really old, but my dad is old when it comes to texting and tweeting. So like he could be listening to the show is what I thought. And I guess he may have liked something that you said and would just text me. Hickey is the best, but would instead of texting me individually, he'll just do it in a, in a family group chat. Like if there's maybe it was a Brian day ball, like for example, there is times where I've been in group chats where we'll be talking about something. It'll be like, by the way, something in the mail came or something like this plea, I plans for this or something like that.

So then there was a follow up to that. He goes, sorry, hockey, not Hickey. Now I don't know why it is my dad. I don't know why my dad, his phone right away goes to Hickey when he means to type hockey, or if he was just listening to the show. And when he went to go rate hockey, because I guess maybe you were talking and he was listening, he typed Hickey. Cause if my phone is, if my dad's phone is auto-correcting hockey to Hickey, then I am concerned because I do not. I don't think I really, my dad has ever texted me that I could recall about you. So I don't know what he's saying behind the scenes, baby.

Awesome. Your dad and I need to switch phones because I have sent too many texts out. Hey, this is Ryan Hockey from CBS sports radio. It auto-corrects my own name. I have saved my own name, my damn phone. And it's still auto-corrects Hickey to hockey. Sometimes it's like, come on. So if your dad is auto-correcting the other way, we got to switch phones. Have you ever actually sent a text to somewhat of note where you did not catch it in the next thing you know, it's Hey, I'm Ryan Hockey. No, for the most part, I catch it right away.

Cause it's very annoying and now I've noticed it and it's, and it's not all the time, which is even more frustrating. I've had two texting blunders that I could visibly remember, you know, of people of note. I I've told this one before I've texted Tom Izzo, the Michigan state coach, meaning to text Tom Izzo in our digital department. Like, Hey, it was the night of the Kobe white video. We're asking the question to inform that Cam Johnson got drafted.

I think it was to the sons at the time 11 to the sons or whatever it was. And he was like, wow, wow, wow. And I knew that video was going to go viral. So I texted it to Tom Izzo, the basketball coach in the rush in the media room meeting to text it to Tom Izzo, our digital guy.

And the other time it just happened recently. Oh, I have a buddy named Josh Fisher and his cousin actually just got hired at temple, Adam Fisher for whatever reason, since I just typed Fisher right away, we've had Jeff Fisher on the show before. And you see the JF, I texted Jeff Fisher about temple basketball. And he was like, what? And I'm like, Oh, sorry, coach. And he goes, Oh, all guy explained to the scenario.

And he said, all good. So those are my two big texting bonders. I was confused for a NBA scout recently. I was, I was texted by a guest we've had not on the show on the weekends by a man named Carl Berman. He works in like scouting also does like a little NBA coverage.

Mostly now he's transitioned to work with players trying to get on the NBA level. And he texted me asking me if I'd be interested in watching a workout of one of a foreign player's workout yet. Oh, I know you're busy, but Hey, I got this player come by. You want to check out a, you know, check out a workout. Let me know what you're thinking. And he goes, I know you got this player.

I forget his name, but you got this player on your roster, but come check him out. Any good scoops? No scoops.

No, no scoops. I should have went there and kind of been like Adam Sandler and that latest, I forget the movie. Oh, Pearl off as a star in it. Oh, it was all based about temple. Yes. Well, I mean, I would say more about no scouting and Adam Sandler trying to make a rise to be an NBA coach.

It was literally based off temple. Okay. He was wearing, he was wearing a Johnson and Hardwick sweatshirt.

It was okay. I'm just, most people say that's, that's Adam Sandler trying to become a basketball scout and sell a guy that he believes in more than just the movie beat about temple, but he's wearing a Johnson and Hardwick shirt hustle. Hustle. Thank you. Yeah.

Thank you. I could have been like Adam Sandler and hustle. Pearl off was a star in that finding that guy and making them the next year in terms of the media. Well, I think one person upstage Pearl off actually in that, in that movie, was it that's media only played the role of media. Stan Patrick in it.

Nope. Our guy, the cause. Oh, good call.

Like no offense. I love Pearl off, but Gargano is just like, a ball of energy and he just goes nuts whenever he speaks. But Pearl off, he did a wonderful job in the movie. It was perfect for, it was, it was actually, I thought he played a great role in the movie, even though it was so quick, but just in terms of the media guys, just Gargano is just so much louder. Well, pro-lifted to his credit, did a great job of getting in that media scrum, getting right in the door of the right to get the question asked and be able to get it recorded. So he's the one getting the credits. He did a great job boxing everybody out of the 20 people that were there. Basketball player. Yeah, that's, he showed it.

And it's not easy to box out Gargano. No, he's a tough guy at both of their sizes. Pearl off being a string bean. Making fun of the cuz.

I love the cuz. No, I'm just saying he's, he's solid. You think he has more mass on that. He would easily be able to bully Pearl off out of the paint or in this case off the sidewalk. He's huskier than Pearl off.

There's no doubt about it. I think Pearl off, maybe the, is he the biggest, well, it's weird to say the biggest string bead in, in sports media. Who is skinnier? And he's tall too.

Tall drink of water. I don't know. Maybe he's tall.

Pearl off is taller than DA, but DA is a string beat. It's kind of a bad look for the industry. There's a lot of fat people who's tall and like really skinny. I don't know.

Who's like really skinny. I don't know. I can't get one. I would say it's the and, and, and Pearl off.

Those are the string beans. So there you go. Anyway, so how do we get to Sandler?

You talking about texting blenders and I said, I w well now I was on the receiving end of one mistaken Ryan H as a basketball stick out instead of just a producer. Okay. So anyway, now we're up against it, man. What a segment that was another award winning segment.

Now I sound like who's the guy, bill Simonson, right? Another award winning update coming up 32 minutes from now. Who would be the update anchor? Oh, it'd be like coming up in 30 minutes from now or it'll be 32 minutes from now with another award-winning update, Kevin Dexter.

That's what it would turn into. I feel like Dexter always did his updates or Jay Berman. Jay was too good for the weekends. This was a Saturday night special. Wasn't that Friday into Saturday? No Saturday night. Oh, that was, that was Saturday night. Yeah. You're right. Jay would quit probably then work a Saturday. All right. Is that guilt show CBS sports radio. You'll hear from legendary Yukon coach, legendary basketball mind, Jim Calhoun. Next when we return in five minutes.