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Is Mike Tomlin on the hot seat? l Rickie Ricardo, Yankees/Eagles 

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What's up everybody? Guess who's hosting a new podcast? No Mercy with Stephen A. Smith. Listen as I pull back the curtain on everything beyond the world of sports, interviewing influential guests, outspoken celebrities, and thought leaders across the political, financial, and social spectrum.

You know me, I'll give you my unbiased opinion. A No Mercy episode drops every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. No Mercy with Stephen A. Smith, a presentation of Cadence 13 and Odyssey Studio, available on the Odyssey app or wherever you listen to your podcast. Follow topics you care about, like leagues and teams, pause or rewind your local sports and news, and add shows to your queue to catch up later. There's a lot to listen to, so get started and download the free Odyssey app today. Live from the palatial yet not overly ostentatious studios of CBS Sports Radio here in beautiful New York City, sitting on top of the 10th floor of 345 Hudson Street, welcome on in to a Wednesday edition of the Zach Gelb show across all of our great local CBS Sports Radio affiliates. Sirius XM, channel 158, and that free Odyssey app, 855-212-4CBS, 855-212-4227, you can always get at me on Instagram, where I'm straight flexing, or via the good old cesspool of Twitter, at Zach Gelb, that's Z-A-C-H-G-E-L-B. We are coming to you live from the Rocket Mortgage Studios, whether you're looking to purchase a new home or refinance yours, Rocket Mortgage can help you get there for home loan solutions that fit your life.

Well, Rocket can. Coming up, 20 minutes from now, joining us in studio, the Spanish play-by-play voice of the New York Yankees and the Philadelphia Eagles, Ricky Ricardo will be stopping by. Then at 7.20 PM Eastern, 4.20 PM Pacific, we will channel baseball with former Astros and Philadelphia Phillies closer in Bradledge, and then coming up at 8 PM Eastern, 5 Pacific, we will chat with the head football coach at TCU, as the Horned Frogs are ranked 13th in the country, and this weekend, on what is a mega-slate for college football, one of the big games will be TCU undefeated, 5-0, 13th in the country, hosting Oklahoma State, led by Heisman trophy Hopeful, and also really damn good football coach in Mike Gundy with Oklahoma State coming to TCU, and you know that Oklahoma State is 8th in the country, they are also 5-0. So a lot on tap today, and obviously producing this extravaganza for the next four hours is no other then. Take Kiki.

This dumb producer, Hot Take Kiki. Every year it's going to be Super Bowl or Bus, but a lot of times in that organization's history, you judge the success of a football team based on if they could win the Super Bowl or not, and if you think they could have a Super Bowl season. We have not seen the standard be Super Bowl or Bus in Pittsburgh for at least three or four years. Because last year, what did we say? The apex was, hey this team just getting to the playoffs.

The apex for the team this year, not that I thought they were a playoff team, but just simply being a 7th seed and getting to the playoffs. And it's kind of a sad state of affairs for the Pittsburgh Steelers because that's an organization with so much tradition, so much history, and so much success. And we haven't seen the Steelers be those Steelers in the last few years. Now I think Mike Tomlin is a really damn good coach. And Mike Tomlin has been the head football coach in the Steel City since 2017.

He won a Super Bowl in 2008, lost a Super Bowl in that 2010 season, and since then has only been back to one conference championship game. Now that team seems like they're never on the same page, where when the defense is cooking, the offense is not ready to go. When the offense had Le'Veon Bell and Big Ben and Antonio Brown, the defense wasn't up to par championship par. But you look at the team this year, the defense, and I know they lost T.J. Watt and we'll see when he comes back, but the defense has underachieved for how much money is invested in that defense.

And offensively, they kind of shot themselves in the foot from the start because you were starting Mitch Trubusky and there was zero point in starting Trubusky. But more importantly, that offensive line, really the last two years, has been god-awful. And I don't care who your quarterback is, if you don't have a good offensive line in this league, it's tough to win. You look at Tom Brady, when he loses, how does he lose? When the defense beats the crap out of his offensive line, therefore beating the crap out of TB12. And I'm just going to go out on a limb and say, no matter how good you think Kenny Pickett's going to be, and how optimistic you may be about Kenny Pickett, Kenny Pickett ain't going to be a Tom Brady.

Let's just say that. So this Steelers team, I wonder what direction they're heading in. And for the last few years, at times, Steelers fans were unfair with Mike Tomlin. And I think a lot of times people have been calling for Mike Tomlin's job. But when you are in Pittsburgh, and you haven't won a playoff game in a long time, that's going to happen. Because yes, even though championship expectations are not always there, and it's impossible each and every year for two decades to be Super Bowl or bus. But you know what is the expectation of those fans, and they haven't won a playoff game since the 2016 season. And really that team, I guess you could say started to unravel.

And when you say unravel, you may go Zach, they've never been dreadful. And to Tomlin's credit, they've never been below 500 besides this year, they'll definitely finish below 500. But if you look back at the makeup of that 2017 team, that was a team that the year before they lost to the conference championship game. And that was a team that was cocky. That was a team that thought when they got in the playoffs, it was inevitable it would be them in New England in the conference title game in 2017. And they went up against a Jaguars team in the regular season, who by the way, beat them.

And if you recall, before that playoff game in the divisional round in Pittsburgh, Jacksonville going to Pittsburgh, the Steelers were already talking about the Patriot matchup next week. So that's a bad job by the coach, and that's a bad job by the players by not having the focus. And ever since that, it was Big Ben in and out of the lineup, and Big Ben also starting to decline. Because you saw where that defense was not in a good spot for a few years. Then the defense starts to really improve and offensively, either Ben was hurt or Ben just wasn't good anymore. Like you look back at that 2019 season when they go 8-8, Big Ben gets hurt second week of the season. And they were still able to win eight games with what, the combination of Mason, Rudolph, and what was the guy's name?

Duck Hodges, quack quack. That team went 8-8 because of how great their defense was. But the last three years, this offense has been a decrepit product. And remember even in 2020, they started off 11-0, 11-0. And they finished the year 12-4 and they lost in the wildcard round when the Cleveland Browns, yes, the Cleveland Browns beat the living snot out of the Steelers at Heinz Field at the time. And yeah, last year, not a lot of people were expecting them to make the playoffs. They go 9-7-1, so give credit to Tomlin.

Ben basically playing with one arm at that point. And they lose in the wildcard round to the Kansas City Chiefs. So I'm just trying to figure out where the Steelers heading. And this is not the first time that a successful coach has had some adversity of multiple years.

You know, I'll compare him a little bit to right now. Tomlin is in the spot where John Harbaugh was not that long ago. Where you go, not that he ever went 5-11 Tomlin, but Harbaugh went 5-11, 8-8, 9-7. And if you recall, they were starting to have momentum being built about maybe John Harbaugh who everyone says, great coach, great coach, great coach, look what he did in Baltimore, all that stuff. But there was starting to be momentum no matter who you are when you have three seasons that you don't make the playoffs in back to back to back years in a proud organization where people start to lose confidence in you and people start to put your tushy in the hot seat. Now for Mike Tomlin, this is going to be his first badge year. This is the first year where the team looks lost. This is the first year that the team looks lifeless and just hopeless. So I fully expect, like anyone telling me that Mike Tomlin's on the hot seat right now, nonsense.

But it is the start of now it actually being warranted for some of the criticism that was not warranted the last three years. And can Mike Tomlin find a way to turn around the state of this franchise? John Harbaugh was able to do it. Now it also helps when you get Lamar Jackson. And Lamar Jackson, we all know that coaches need a quarterback.

And look at what has happened since then. Jackson comes in in that 2018 season down the stretch to make the playoffs. Then the next year he's the league MVP, they're 14-2, 11-5. And yes, last year injuries unfortunately caught up to them and they were on the outside looking at income playoff time.

But Harbaugh, no one even thinks about him being on the hot seat anymore because of him reestablishing this Ravens culture and this Ravens brand. Once you've had a transition at the quarterback position saying goodbye to Joe Flacco and now going to Lamar Jackson. For Pittsburgh, you're now in a spot where you have a really damn good coach on paper a defense that is really good but it's not playing that way on the field.

But offensively, they seem lost. And I'm not going to smack around Kenny Pickett because he's played what? A game and a half? And it was his first NFL start last weekend and you're going up against Buffalo.

But right now Kenny Pickett is not being put in a position to succeed. Najee Harris banged up early in the year, is not looking like the Najee Harris of a year ago. So you wonder how much that injury does play into effect. The wide receivers, do you have a great wide receiver on the roster? Deontay Johnson's getting paid like a great wide receiver, he may just be a very good wide receiver. He may be one of those in-betweeners, not a number one, but not as bad as a number two, so he's like a one and a half.

Chase Claypool has a lot of star potential, but he has some stupid things. I like to tight end Fryermuth, but most importantly, that offensive line is in shambles. So in the next year or two, we're going to see if Mike Tomlin can turn around the Steelers and get them back to where they're going to be. And most of the time it's going to be dependent on if Kenny Pickett becomes that quarterback that you drafted him to be.

And we probably won't really know that until maybe at the earliest, the end of next season. So I'm not advocating to fire Mike Tomlin. If Mike Tomlin got fired after this year, yeah, guess what?

He would get a job within a half a second because that is how good of a coach he is. He's been in this league since 2007 as a head coach and is only and has never had a below 500 season. And this year it's going to be the first below 500 season because I don't expect this to turn around. You have Tampa this week, Miami, Philadelphia, New Orleans, the Bengals. You've got some tough opponents upcoming.

And most importantly, your team's just not that good. So I'm curious where people are at with Mike Tomlin. And Ryan, that's why I brought up John Harbaugh because I see a lot of similarities. Harbaugh, Tomlin, established coaches, coaches that are viewed as great coaches, well respected in football, coaches that have won and you look, there was a period of doubt for Mike Tomlin or John Harbaugh from 2015 to 2017 and then he got his new quarterback and he turned it around. Even though there's been some doubt with Tomlin the last few years and there's been a decline in play, now the doubt is really starting to take it to the next level because he's doing something that he's never done before and that is right now being on pace to be below 500. And ultimately, they've hitched their wagon to Kenny Pickett and if Kenny Pickett can be good, then they will eventually be able to turn it around but they first got to fix that offensive line. So I don't think Tomlin's going anywhere just yet. I don't think he should be going anywhere just yet. But you wonder two, three years from now where that conversation will be. Where are you at though right now, Hot Take Kickie, when it comes to the job status of one Mike Tomlin? I am open to the possibility at the end of the year of moving on. What?

For this reason. I said open. I'm not saying he's going to get fired or should get fired. You mentioned before the standard for the Steelers has not been Super Bowl or bust for Three years?

Three, four-ish years. They're nowhere close this year. Like to his credit, he has made and had some bad teams somehow get over 500 or make it to 500.

12 and 49, 701. You deserve credit for that. But also the same time, it's like if you're nowhere near the top, it's like what are we doing?

You're kind of stuck in the middle. Now you can be a good team, okay, but where does that get you? Who's the coach that you're going to bring in if you're the Steelers?

That you go, wow. And that's an attractive job just because it's named the Pittsburgh Steelers. But who's that coach? You know, who's that guy that you're bringing in? Well, how about the big name, Sean Payton?

Thank you. Take that job. I don't think Sean Payton is going to take that job without an established quarterback. You don't know?

We'll see. Sean Payton is only going to take a job with an established quarterback. Maybe he likes Kenny Pickett. Maybe he does.

We don't know. I'm going to imagine there's more established quarterbacks that are out there than Kenny Pickett. I don't see how you can say no to that. I could.

Really? Yeah, because Sean Payton also went with Drew Brees, got to many games where you're kind of in a similar spot where like the Steelers are where they came up short. So I don't think there's that much of a difference with Sean Payton and Mike Tomlin. You know, I'll say this. If the Steelers were to move on for Mike Tomlin, it actually may be better for Mike Tomlin than it would be for the Pittsburgh Steelers. And here's why.

I don't know if Kenny Pickett's the guy. I'm not saying he's not. That offensive line is horrible.

Yes, it's a great organization. We all know that. But for Tomlin, you've been there for so long.

You've been there since 2007. Maybe it's time for him to move on. And if he moves on, he's going to be that him or Sean Payton will be the top guys on the market. And if the Steelers were to move on, he could potentially immediately upgrade a job depending on which big job opens up. And maybe he latches on to a team that had shortcomings in the playoffs. And then that's why they got rid of their head coach. So if the Steelers were to move on for Mike Tomlin, which I do not think they're doing after this year, and I think it's ridiculous for anyone to suggest it, I think it would benefit Mike Tomlin more than it would benefit the Pittsburgh Steelers. And that's why for right now, in the present year of 2022, you don't even think about moving on for Mike Tomlin. It is the Zach Gelb show on CBS Sports Radio.

Take a time out. When we come on back, we will connect in studio with the play-by-play voice of the Philadelphia Eagles as the Eagles do have a big game this upcoming weekend up against the Dallas Cowboys. And we also chat with the same guy who does the Spanish play-by-play for the New York Yankees. And you may have heard the Yankees in the postseason up against the Guardians. They're up 1-0. And they have game number two tomorrow night.

And it's not being played tonight for some foolish reason. Back after these short messages. The listening you love is on the free Odyssey app, your trusted local radio stations, coverage of your favorite teams, live news from your hometown and millions of podcasts on demand. Best of all, you can completely customize your listening experience. Follow topics you care about like leagues and teams. Pause or rewind your local sports and news and add shows to your queue to catch up later. There's a lot to listen to.

So get started and download the free Odyssey app today. You're listening to the Zach Gelb show. And you can think of O'Reilly Auto Parts where your car care needs get guaranteed low prices and excellent customer service from the professional parts people at O'Reilly Auto Parts. And this is Zach Gelb's show Coast to Coast on CBS Sports Radio. And now joining me in studio, I would say he is a top five favorite person of mine in this entire company. And that is the Spanish play-by-play voice of not only the Philadelphia Eagles, but also the New York Yankees. And that is the great iconic. We play his calls all the time.

They're better than the calls in English. Ricky Ricardo. Ricky, how are you? Who are the other four?

I can't do that. You're old man. My old man. He's not in the top five. I'm higher rated than your old man.

I love my father, but in terms of this company, it's no benefit to me to have my dad in the top five. It's a pleasure. Zach's like a nephew to me. You really have become like a nephew to me. I know. I absolutely love your stuff. And a lot of times on football, the aftermaths on Monday are big moments like Aaron Judge. We use your calls. Well, thanks.

And I try to see if I get like two or three words that I understand. Do I need decaf and tone it down a little bit? Or are you okay with the energy level? My favorite one was the Jake Elliott game-winning field goal. Against the Giants. Was that Super Bowl LII season right?

61-yarder. Yeah. So the giant decline that season started that game. The Giants, I think, were three and one that day. Yeah. Going into that game. Was that Odell peeing in the end zone?

Yeah. And when Ricky Ricardo's screaming, Si Señor! Si Señor!

Si Señor! 61-yarder for Elliott. It's one of the great calls in the history of broadcasting. Thank you. Thank you. So let's start with the Yankees.

Yeah. They win last night up against the Guardians. Garret Cole, he's paid a lot of money, as you know, has had a good season, but he's always a point of controversy because this is why they pay him to get it done in the postseason. What you make of what was a really good performance last night for Garret Cole. Well, he's been bothered by the home run all year long.

I think he led the American League in home runs allowed in the low 30s somewhere, 32-33. Stephen Kwon got him and I said, uh-oh, right there, I said, here we go again. But all credit to Garret Cole.

He settled in, got into a groove. I thought last night he wasn't as reliant on power pitching. There's a lot of him and Trevino last night were really mixing it up a little bit. The Cleveland hitters, short of Ramirez, aren't known for power.

They're a contact-hitting team. So I thought his approach last night was very, very different as compared to what I've seen him against, let's say, Tampa or some of the other big-time Yankee opponents. I thought he was much more pitcher than thrower last night. He was still hitting 97-98, but he was really working it last night. I think he left with 101 pitches. Those were 101 pitches. Stress on every pitch on that outing.

So he worked very, very hard last night. It's really the best postseason outing that I've seen Cole have as a Yankee probably. We know the two best teams in the AL are the Astros and then also the New York Yankees.

The Astros had that unbelievable comeback yesterday. It does feel, even though it's only one game in both those series, that it's inevitable they meet up once again in the ALCS. Why can this year be different for the Yankees? Because at times, just living in New York, it seems like there were some bad stretches for the Yankees this year, but they were still a heck of a team that it felt like from the reaction. And I get it's New York that this team at times was 25 games under.500, which was not the case. Well, the Yankees have had issues with the Astros, number one, because the Astros are convinced that they have no fear of coming into Yankee. They feed off the negative energy at Yankee Stadium.

They feed off the accusations of the cheating. And to me, Dusty Baker is the perfect manager for that particular group of Houston Astros. He's the perfect guy at the right time, coming off the cheating scandal, coming off of A.J. Hinch. Well, he's likable.

He's likable, but there's no pressure with Dusty. That Astro team plays pressure-free. You saw it last year in the big series against Boston, after Boston had taken care of business against the Yankees. And every time they come into Yankee Stadium, I go into the clubhouse, I know a few of the guys, Gurriel is a good friend, I know a couple of these guys, and they're worry-free. They come into New York expecting to win. Whereas the Guardians, for example, you pop your head in and you can tell right away that there's an intimidation factor with the opponent. The Tampa Bay Rays and the Houston Astros are the two teams that feel at home at Yankee Stadium. Does it always work?

Obviously not. It's a tough team. They're going up against the Bombers.

But they come in with no fear, no intimidation. Best man wins, mano a mano, but the mindset of the Houston Astros, and with the Yankees, it's that last mountain that they have yet to climb since 2017. Do they inevitably meet in this ALCS?

Yes. I thought Seattle, their chance to win that series was yesterday. I think they get steamrolled here, whether it takes three, four, whatever, but Houston, I don't think it'll go five. I don't think they'll go back to Houston. I think the Astros. And there's something to be said here, Zach. I think what we have seen yesterday in these DS series is the teams with the five days of rest, okay?

There's a certain amount of rust. It takes a few innings for these teams to get back in the groove. We saw it with Atlanta. We saw it with the Yankees. We saw it with the Dodgers. With all four of those games yesterday, it seemed like the teams that were off for five days, it took them a little while to get their footing back. But through a series, as long as you survive early and you don't shoot yourself in the foot too much, you'll have the advantage just like the pitching set up.

Exactly. I think they caught up to themselves midway through. And late, obviously, for the Astros, with two in the eighth and three in the ninth. But end result, Atlanta's the one that I'm worried about. As far as the favorites are concerned, I think the Phillies are on one of those magic carpet rides. And you're talking Zach Wheeler can easily shut down the Atlanta lineup tonight.

You go into Philadelphia, down two games, with Nola pitching game three. Those fans? And those fans.

And that's going to be a jacked up house. And Ricky also does radio in Philadelphia with one of his other 9,000 jobs that he has. Ricky Ricarder here with us. So the philosophy in baseball throughout the years, like when the Mets lost in the World Series, the Royals were a contact team. You look at other ways to win, it's pitching, pitching, pitching dominance, starting pitching.

You look at these teams that are around here, it's the long ball for the most part, you know, excluding the Guardians. And that Phillies team, they have two really damn good pitchers in Nola and Wheeler, but those bats now are finally cooking. They started to cook, and Castellanos is the key guy there.

You're right. Once Nick Castellanos, you got the left side. Oh, I went to the shore this summer, he was getting shredded, Castellanos.

Believe me, the call's the best. Bust, awful, terrible, he doesn't care, and he was dominant yesterday with three RBIs and also flashing 11. If you get the Castellanos that carried the Cincinnati offense to whatever it got for the last couple of years, and prior to that in Detroit, that's scary because Harper, the left side, the left-handed hitters, especially with Shorber, they've been good.

Real Muto has been fantastic. That Phillies team with these two pitchers they've got going in these next two days and having, you know, a Ranger in their hip pocket if there is a Game 5, that, you know, the Atlanta Braves, and Zach, how many times have we seen a defending champion get in, maybe the Braves used all their energy and emptied the tank against the Mets and to catch it, they used so much of their, you know, of their fortitude just to win the division, they may be out of gas. I think you bring up a great point, and I said this to Ryan, and maybe our vision is a little bit blurred here because we're both Mets fans.

It was a little bit abnormal. You mean you and Ryan? Yes. Yeah, not you. Why, did I include you in the Mets? No, I don't want to be included in that group.

Oh, okay, yes. But I said it's a little bit bizarre to me, and winning an NLE title is always important, but when you just win the World Series, how not only did you come back, and it was a great comeback, don't get me wrong, the Mets were playing at a good rate, and the Braves just took it to a different level, they were dancing on the grave of the Mets. Not only the current players, but the players of the past, it seemed like that was a World Series type of celebration for a team that has won before that was odd to me. Yeah, it's a crescendo that they hit that might be difficult to stay at that level with the Atlanta Braves. I can't believe I'm saying it.

I was so annoyed by that celebration because I was P.O. 'd with my own team. I'm rooting for the Phillies, sir. Over the Braves?

Easily. Of course you should be rooting. I'd rather see the Phillies over the Braves. You should be rooting for the Phillies. And then they'll probably get the Dodgers, you think? Dodgers going back to the World Series, right? Dodgers are the best team, I think, in all of baseball.

They've got holes. Look, Kimbrel's not even on the roster. They used Chris Martin, of all people, last night. They were playing Coldplay records after every out he got last night.

There's a different Coldplay record that they were playing on the organ. So, also, just talking about being left off the roster, Aroldis Chapman didn't show up. They left him off the roster.

Yeah, that's a tough break. I think we've seen the last of him. I was going to ask you, do you think he could come back for the next series if that's over? I doubt it.

I think that ship has sailed. So, he was at his house, what, in Florida? Yes, in Miami. During that layoff from the Wild Card to the Division Series. I know it's been up and down on and off the field this year for Aroldis Chapman. Was he going to be left off the roster and that's why he just said, bleep it, I'm not coming back? I think his gut feeling was that he wasn't going to be on the roster anyway, so why bother being at the mandatory... You're getting paid. Well, remember, he's already been paid. Yeah. Okay, season's over. Yeah, that's true. But you're part of the team.

You're part of the team. You know what I mean. What I noticed about him for the last month, and filling in for Sterling, I've been on the charter, so I've been with the team a lot in the month of September. And he's kind of been a little isolated.

He's got the headphones on all the time. In years past, he's been more of a conversationalist. I've seen him kind of go his own way. And you've done events with him. Yeah, I know him very well. And I've noticed the difference in just the way that he goes about his business in the last month.

So, I think it's probably a parting that works for both sides. There is no one in probably this business, other than Kenny Albert or Ian Eagle, that flies more than you. Because you live in Florida, you work in New York, you also work in Philadelphia.

You're all over the place. How is life on the Yankees' charter since you said you're on the Yankees' charter? Oh, it's great. What are you getting food-wise on a normal flight there? Oh, it's filet mignon. Oh, jeez. Yeah, you pick your own salad, filet mignon, if you don't want steak and you have the... Chicken or salmon? Or crab cakes for an appetizer?

Oh, it's first class. Are you kidding me? If you ever need a spotter in the press box, feel free to invite me when you're doing the Yankees' draft. You or Rich will be the first ones that I reach out to.

If it's free, I'm all in. All right, Ricky Ricardo is to do with us. Let's get to the Eagles.

Go ahead. Yeah. Oh, the birds. Yeah, so the birds, I thought they were going to win the NFC East when they traded for A.J. Brown at the draft.

I said that on the air when I was at Las Vegas. With that being said, I didn't think they'd be a Super Bowl contender and sitting here at 5-0. How good can this Eagles team be this year? As long as they stay healthy, okay?

Then sky's the limit. Now, my worry is the defense has had a very hard time getting off the field on third down. They're one of the worst in the league in third down conversions against the Super Bowl year with Doug Peterson.

They were the exact opposite. They were great at getting off the field. Time of possession was great as far as the offense, and they got off the field on third down. All year long, Detroit, Washington, they won every game. But still, that defense has had to really work its tail off.

Third and 11, third and 8. I don't know if Jonathan Gannon's game plan defensively so far has really taken advantage of the kind of talent. Slay and Bradbury have been fantastic. T.J. Edwards at linebacker. But still, the rotation on the defensive line has yet to hit its stride. What worries me more about the Eagles is defensively.

And listen, let's face it. That was a kick that should have been made by Amendola. It looked like there was a hand on it that got on it. It didn't.

No, 93. Williams declared today he didn't touch it. He confessed that he didn't touch it. And there's no wind in it. How the heck did that then miss that rise? So they're getting some breaks. Some of the breaks are going their way in Detroit. Three-point game on opening day. Zach, they've had big-time trouble scoring in the second half. They've been shut out twice entirely in a second half. And before this Sunday, they had not scored in the fourth quarter since opening day in Detroit.

So there's still some things to be worked out. This weekend, you're welcoming the Dallas Cowboys. You know that stadium is going to be jumping in Philadelphia. It's Cowboy Week. How do you think that game plays out? I think Cooper Rush will play quarterback. I think the Cowboys are smart enough to know. And they've got a bye next week, if I'm not mistaken.

I know the Eagles do. I think both teams have a bye. So I think Prescott will come back the week after the bye. But I think it's a low-scoring, defensive battle on Sunday night. I'd take the under, okay, for my friends that like to wager a little bit.

I see the Eagles winning this, but I think this might be Dicker the Kicker again, if it's not Jake Elliott. What are you, Gus Johnson all of a sudden? All right, last thing, because we can't have you in here without a Spanish call. Oh. This is one of my favorites. Can you do yours truly, Zach Geld? You could do baseball, football, hitting a home run. I'm not throwing a touchdown.

Maybe catching a tackle eligible or something like that. I've got one for you, all right? I'll give you this, Zach Geld, para la patada. El gol de campo para ganar el juego.

Geld, le mette el pier. No, señor! No, señor! No, Zach! No, Zach! No, Zach! Geld, fa yo!

Y los eagles, ganar el juego. You just missed the field goal. Oh, I thought I was running the football and I got stopped because I'm a large man and can't run. You blew it at the end. Man. So I'm now aiming goals? Just like you meant. Now you have to bring up the ments.

You come in studio, we have a nice relationship, and you have to bring up those ments at the end. And I'm a Devils fan, too. How about that?

Look at Ackerman's face after that one. Yeah, the Devils. Geez. What are you, still living with Danico and all those burg der? And I'm walking through the door anytime soon.

Sergey Breland, baby! Great to see you. Good to see you. This is Ricky Ricardo joining us, the Spanish play-by-play voice of the Philadelphia Eagles and also the New York Yankees. Jay Smith, a presentation of Cadence 13th and Odyssey Studio, available on the Odyssey app or wherever you listen to your podcast. Add shows to your queue to catch up later.

There's a lot to listen to, so get started and download the free Odyssey app today. You're listening to The Zach Gelb Show. Zach Gelb Show, CBS Sports Radio. So I saw that Odell Beckham Jr. said that the Rams made the lowest of low offers to him. And then since that story did blow up in the last 24 hours, Sean McVay has already talked about it. He said Odell Beckham Jr. hasn't gotten our final offer yet. Right now, Ryan, as we sit here on the 12th day of October, the year of 2022, Odell Beckham Jr. is playing football where?

When he is able to come back off this tornadoes. I would put my money on the bills. Oh, so you've changed that answer. Yes, I've changed. I think him saying publicly that the Rams made the lowest of low of offers could be interpreted two ways. One, that means I'm done with the Rams. Or two, maybe it means I still really want to go back to L.A. But I'm not taking it for the deal that they gave me.

So let's make this story public. I know they want me back or Sean McVay has at least told me that they want me back. And then you put a little public pressure on the Rams, who are right now underachieving at two and three. Their whole offense is just Cooper Cup. And the guy that they brought in to replace, right, the production of either Robert Woods or Odell Beckham Jr., Allen Robinson, who I think is a good wide receiver in this league, for whatever the reasons are, he hasn't been producing.

So I'm kind of torn. Is this play by Odell to just signify, guys, we're open, we're open for business. The Rams aren't giving me the money that I want. Or is this maybe a way to challenge the Rams on your offer wasn't satisfactory.

So get back to the drawing board and come back to me soon because I'm ready to decide on a team sooner rather than later. Is it too late to go back on my answer that I just had like two minutes ago? Did I convince you that quickly just with that question? It's sort of, yes. And also, I think I... Yeah, if you want, flip flop picky.

Go ahead. I have to reconsider who I'm talking about in Odell Beckham Jr., who has a Super Bowl ring already. And I think is motivated at this point to get a big time deal. You look at Buffalo by far in a way better Super Bowl contending position obviously than the Rams. But I don't think he's getting a big time, he's not getting a multi-year deal here. You know what I'm saying? After the season.

Sorry. He's going to be on a one-year deal. He is playing for one more big deal. I guess I'm going to give him a two, three-year deal, but I wouldn't see the logic behind that. Agreed.

Agreed. But he's playing this season, you would think, for like one more big deal. You go to Buffalo, the more I think about it, he's got a ring already.

So maybe his motivation is not to win as much as to get the targets. You have Gabe Davis now who's really coming to his own as a solid number two receiver. Obviously, Tavon Diggs is a really good receiver against a lot of targets.

Not a lot of balls to go around in Buffalo compared to L.A. Where you just mentioned it's Cooper Cup and no one else. I don't know how to ever predict Odell Beckham Jr. Because I don't know what the guy wants. Does he want to be a star in L.A.? Does he want to be the number one guy? Because when he elected to go to L.A., I know it ended up working out because Robert Woods got hurt, but he was that third wide receiver. It was Cooper Cup in a career year, an all-time great career year. And your number two guy there was Robert Woods.

And then, what, he signed and it was on that Friday that Robert Woods just, bizarrely enough, tears his ACL and is out. So I don't know how much location matters, how much production matters, because you can go to Buffalo and it's not the most desirable destination. That's coming from someone that loves Buffalo. But it's not the most desirable destination compared to L.A. in terms of just living.

But it's what, you're living there for two months? And you can go to Buffalo and still put up good enough stats where someone wants to bring you in as the number one next year because you're used to getting double teams. You're not getting double-teamed in Buffalo with the way that Staphon Diggs is playing wide receiver right now and also Gabe Davis. And if you win another ring, then it improves the stock of Odell a lot that this guy the last two years was able to go in there halfway through the year, win a ring in L.A. and played a major role, caught a touchdown in that Super Bowl before getting hurt. And I think he'd play a nice-sized role in Buffalo. The Von Miller stuff, and maybe this is just Von trying to put the pressure on Odell and being a master recruiter, with how much Von Miller keeps on talking about this, I kind of feel like he's going to Buffalo. But it wouldn't surprise you if he's in L.A. I don't think it would surprise you if he ends up in Green Bay. Green Bay was a rumored destination last year. And if you want to be the guy, Ryan, wouldn't you think, with those receivers in Green Bay, Odell instantly, very few spots he walks in, he's the number one guy, he goes to Green Bay, he is the number one receiver in Green Bay.

No Randall Cobb, no Romeo Dobbs, no Christian Watson. It would be Odell Beckham Jr., and you know Rogers even said it. He would love for that to happen.

That's a good point. He would walk in right away. Now, I don't know how quickly he'd get on the same page as Rogers, the whole other question, but he would definitely be the number one target.

Just do a Pancha Karmic cleanse. Him and Rogers get on the same page. I don't know if OBJ would be down for that.

I think he has some limits. Never know. There's been some weird rumors about Odell Beckham Jr. in the bedroom. There have been. Some stinky rumors, if you recall. Maybe that's what it was.

Maybe he was doing Pancha Karmic before it was cool. I'll give a few other potential spots. What about the Patriots? He's always had a big time respect for Bill Belichick. I read some article today, and I don't know if it was a report or whatever, but Patriots would be interested.

They were interested last year. You'd be the number one wide receiver. Would the Pats be a spot for Odell?

I don't think so. For this year, I would say no. Well, if he wants to be the number one guy, he'd be the number one guy in New England. Bad offense.

How much you getting the ball? You'd be the number one wide receiver. I don't think so.

Okay. Here's one where I think he would be open to it, but I don't think the team would be open to it. The Giants. I think he would love to go back to New York.

The gentleman out, Shane and Dayball in. He was in the facility, right, reportedly. I don't know if that was ever confirmed, visiting Sterling Shepard.

There were some that said he was, then others said no, he's not. I would think that he would be okay with going back to the Giants. I just don't think the Giants, at this stage of where they're building, would bring him back.

New regime. Why wouldn't they do it? It doesn't cost you anything, draft pick-wise. No, but where are the Giants going this year? I know they're 4-1, but where are they going this year?

I don't think anywhere, but to your point, they are 4-1. It's almost a no-risk move for them. Yeah, I just got a feeling like it's going back to those years of the Giants, and you're trying to move forward, so I don't think they would do it.

That's just me. It is Zach Gilp's show on CBS Sports Radio. My guess would be it's going to be Buffalo.

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