Paul Skenes, Kawhi Leonard and Disco Demolition (Hour 2)

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Just wondering. What happened? Six pitches and... No what? How many hits? I don't remember how many, but six pitches, ground out, fly out, ground out. Okay, so he hasn't a lot of hits yet.

Is that good? So he started the inning with 93 pitches, he now has 99 pitches, his career high is 107 pitches in the majors, and it seems like as long as he can have a quick eighth, I should probably give him an opportunity. But like, as a Met fan, you should know this, with Johan Santana. Johan Santana pitched 145 pitches or whatever.

This guy's not even close, he's not even 100 yet you said. Yes, but Johan Santana was not a rookie, he'd been in the league for a while, he had his arms stretched out for a little bit. If you're the Pirates and he's at like 115 pitches, you're taking the chance to throw him back out there?

A thousand percent. Johan by the way was at 134 pitches. Derek Shelton will be my least favorite person in major league baseball if they elect to poll. More than Rob Manfred?

Paul Skeez. That's a good checks and balances right there, Manny. Yeah, no, he will, because Manfred's already so irrelevant as he is. And I'll say this, I'll give Manfred credit for one thing. This will be the only thing I will give Rob Manfred credit for. The pitch clock that he implemented has been spectacular.

And it has totally saved major league baseball. But in the updated power rankings for your boy, if Shelton polls him, then I will put him right at the top of the list. And actually, I got to put Ben Sherrington, the general manager there as well because how much of that decision is actually Derek Shelton?

You know, you got to put someone on the general manager too. But you just said he went six pitches in the bottom of the seven. Six. You got six outs to go.

You know, take the analytics and and shove them, throw them in the trash, put them in the paper shredder. Guys, 22 years old. You said when you look at his pitch counts so far this year, his highest, I see 107. That was against the Mets on July. Yeah, the highest was 107. He's got 100. One, two, three, four times at ninety nine right now.

Yeah, you stretch this baby out. Well, so he's averaging 14 pitches an inning. So if you equate that out to the ninety nine that he has for two more innings, if he ends up doing 14 more pitches, that's on pace for one hundred and twenty seven pitches, which is 20 more, which is a significant number.

That's about 20 percent more than his career high. So it's a question mark. We've seen it before. I just speak to the common man. Can I speak for the man's man here? This is why some people don't like sports right now. You have a youngster who is in his early 20s. He is at ninety nine pitches, his arms not falling off. We didn't just see him struggle in the bottom of the seventh.

Be one thing right. If he went through a twenty five pitch inning and his arm was falling off and he was gas, he just went through three Brewers batters like it was me going through a buffet at ease. Six pitches, six to get out of that that inning. You absolutely put him out for the eighth and you absolutely put him out for the ninth as long as he still has the no hitter intact.

But everyone now talks about this. You know, are they going to pull him? Are they going to go to the bullpen?

Steve Tannen is a talk show host out in Oregon. He tweeted out, Pirates Paul Skeans has a no hitter through seven. Eleven K's in a walk. Ninety nine pitches. Will they come out for the eighth? If he doesn't come out for the eighth, I should protest the rest.

You know, he doesn't come out for the eighth. I'm going to protest the All-Star game. I won't watch the All-Star game. I don't even know if I'm going to watch the All-Star game. What if he starts the All-Star game? There's a good chance he could start the All-Star. There is a good chance.

Right now, let me ask you a serious question. See the biggest draw in Major League Baseball right now. There's two other names I think of right away. Well, Otani is 100 percent the biggest draw. I would agree. So I don't think, I think Otani is that's one name.

And then who's the other name? Aaron Judge. But I'm telling you right now, if I have a choice, and maybe because I live in New York and I've seen Judge play a few times, but still, if I'm an independent fan and I have a choice with an opposing team coming to my ballpark to see Paul Skeans pitch or Aaron Judge hit, I'm taking Paul Skeans every day that we can twice on Sundays. He is electrifying. He is the most exciting pitcher we've seen come into the majors in maybe decades.

Ah, let's not get creepy. He's been sensational, but decades? The last time I could remember... Pedro?

Steven. Yeah, when was Pedro? Pedro came into the league at what, 93? Oh, you said decades.

That's a very ambiguous term. Decades. Not a decade. Decades. Right, so decades. Pedro, that was what, 35, 40 years ago, 1992 or so for Pedro? And even Pedro- Does that math check out?

No. Or is it 30 something years? Does that math check out? Now it does, 30 something years. What did I say, 30, 40 years?

I don't know what your pages are. No, I think you said 40, 50. Yeah, 40, 50 years. I didn't say 40, 50.

I said 30, 40. I can get the tape. I can pull the tape. Manny? But hype wise, the last guy that came in with this kind of hype- Matt Harvey? Strasburg.

Yeah. Strasburg had the hype that I haven't seen for a pitcher. And he was good, but injuries derailed his career, and he never amounted to what we thought. I haven't seen this hype for a pitcher coming into the majors since Strasburg, and Strasburg was the highest I had seen maybe ever in my lifetime. Yeah, we definitely got to pull that and hear what Sanford said, because I heard it the same way that Manny heard it as well.

That's a great question, though. You go around Major League Baseball, who's the biggest draw right now? It's Otani, and I've gone out of my way to go to Yankee Stadium and Citi Field anytime Otani's in the area. But after that, Skeens is right there. I don't think it's as much of a blowout for Skeens against Judge as you made it out to be, just because Judge is such an empowering force, and he looks like a video game. But those got to be the first three names that you think of. But that's been a problem for Major League Baseball. Mike Trout has been a star. I know he hasn't been able to stay healthy, but even when he was healthy, no one knows anything about Mike Trout. You know, he's like a boring guy. You know, Mookie Betts, big star.

He's one in Boston, is one in L.A., but now is overshadowed because of Otani being there. Pedro, that was, what, 35, 40 years ago? Oh, I thought I thought Sampther was actually still talking. Pedro, that was, what, 35, 40 years ago?

Well, how could we actually do the math on that when we get into it? Yeah, I was a little bit off. That was 32 years ago.

In 1992, he made his debut for the Los Angeles Dodgers. Pedro, that was, what, 35, 40 years ago? No, I was close. I said 35, 40 years ago.

It was 32 years ago. I love how worked up you get. Sampther, never change, all right? I'm 44. If I haven't changed by now, I ain't going anywhere, buddy. No, trust me. It's like when I work here, I just get stuck with stubborn producers.

Like, Hickey's very, nicest guy in the world. How am I stubborn if I was correct in my timeframe? He is stubborn. He will dig his heels in deep until he's proven to be wrong. They don't give a darn about that, though.

Yeah, well, they do give a darn about that. Anyhoo, we are waiting to see if Paul Skeans will come out for the bottom of the eighth. I'm assuming the top of the eighth has already started.

Do we have any updates there? They're starting the... Oh, no. They took him out?

Middle of the eighth inning. Colin Holderman replacing Paul Skeans. No!

Are you serious? Wow. They took him out of the game? At 99 pitches. Oh, that's insufferable.

That's terrible. 99 pitches. He just had... Stop. He just had six pitches to get through the bottom of the seventh. He pitched 107 against the Mets, and this guy who's the biggest draw right now in Major League Baseball? You take him out?

How do you take him out? Oh, that's terrible. This is the problem with Major League Baseball. Screw the numbers. Screw the analytics. Stop. Oh, Derek Shelton, Ben Sherrington, I hate you.

I despise you. Everyone's watching. Everyone's loving this. He's got a no hitter. He's been sensational through his first 11 starts. He's going to the damn All-Star game. And this guy has a no hitter and you take him out? You're not kidding with me.

They actually took him out of the game. Yes. That's trash. That's trash. Terrible. And there goes the no-no.

That's just pathetic. Jake Bowers singles on a ground ball to right field. Colin Holderman blows the no-hitter. Oh, the actual... Sorry, I was taking it as like, yeah, who gives a rat's ass if they get the no-no or not? No, it's over now. But now it's actually over. That's garbage. Seriously, that's absolutely garbage. Pirates.

Mickey Mouse organization. Second pitch. Second pitch.

Like, I get it. If you want to pull him at like 115, 120, right? If he's having a couple labored innings or something, right?

In the eighth or the ninth. But to pull him at 99, not even give him a chance to get up for the eighth. He just had six pitches to get through an inning. He wasn't slowing down.

His arm better be falling off if they're taking him out of this game. That's unbelievable. Baseball's so dumb.

Baseball's just so stupid. That's disgraceful. Absolutely disgraceful.

You know what? We're taking a break. That's how mad I am. That's disgusting.

I just crumbled up the rundown and threw it at a camera. How do they take him out of the game? Seriously? And don't tell, oh, he's at 99 pitches.

What the damn do? I want to hear from him after the game. Not Rob Thompson. Actually Paul Skeans.

Rob Thompson? The wrong slugged cut. Oh, yeah. Not today. I don't have time for those jokes. I don't give a darn for those jokes anymore.

But how they don't give a darn about that. Stop with the drops. Stop.

Stop with the drops. Like seriously, you have a guy that right now has baseball by the you know what. And this dude is dominant. This dude is such an attraction when baseball barely has any attractions right now. And you take him out because he's at 99 pitches.

99? That's just terrible. And I hope after the game, Paul Skeans is honest and he doesn't do the company move and and he doesn't say, oh, yeah, I agree with the manager. I agree with also Ben Sherrington, the general manager, and they're looking out for the best interest.

I hope he says, you know, I work with a bunch of morons. Terrible. That's just terrible. I will say this.

Our colleague over at 93, seven pony. I'm seeing this tweet now in Pittsburgh. He goes, absolute joke to not let Skeans pitch the eighth. Baseball sucks.

F this. And then this is a really interesting tweet that I hadn't really fully considered. Other than maybe an inning in Texas at the All-Star Game, Paul Skeans was getting an entire week off, maybe more. This was the perfect time to let him keep pitching. He's not wrong.

He's had plenty of time to rest after this. You don't have to worry about like a five day rotational, you know, and you will get and you will get these losers that will say to me, oh, but Zach, you got to look at the next decade, not just one start. It's all about the numbers and there's blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Take the numbers and shovel shove them up here. You know what? I just saw a photo of Paul Skeans from Philip Pony. Paul Skeans looked like he just got hit by a bus. That's how devastated he looks. He looks like Livy Dunn just broke up with them. That's how heartbroken I would be. You know, if Livy Dunn broke up with you. That's what Paul Skeans look like right now.

Like, imagine that if she ended up breaking up with him, he would be devastated. That's what he looks like right now. He looks devastated because the Pirates are a bunch of morons.

If you like that picture, scroll down a little bit. Andrew Philip Pony is at the Pony Express. They showed the video of the manager talking to Skeans and the reaction Skeans had being told he was not going out for the eighth inning.

I would have punched the manager in the face. He should be. He's a gamer. He has a look on his face.

Like, what the hell are we doing here? And I know Paul Skeans is projected to be great and what he's done has been sensational. There's there's a lot of great pictures that have never pitched a no hitter.

And you pull him in his 11th start or whatever it is because he's at ninety nine pitches. Trash. Absolute trash.

Alrighty, this is Zach Gelb showing the Infinity Sports Network. Go to a break. Alrighty. I tried to cool off during the break. I'm not going to lie. I'm still heated.

I'm still upset. The Pittsburgh Pirates. Mickey Mouse organization. No fun organization.

Bunch of hacks they are. Everyone in baseball is having fun. Everyone's watching what's going on.

And we're loving Paul Skeans. You know, the only people that weren't happy are Brewers fans when they were getting no hit through through seven innings. And the guy just mowed down the lineup at the end of the seventh.

And there you go. Six pitches and then boom. They take him out of the game. I like ninety nine pitches just came off a six pitch inning and they take him out of the game.

Like what are we doing here. So the no hitters no more. Whatever reliever they brought in from the bullpen allowed to hit what we said two pitches in.

He allowed a hit. Disgusting. That that's just disgusting. You know if he was at like one hundred and thirty pitches even a buck fifteen a buck twenty and there's two mornings to go OK. Ninety nine pitches.

You know what. I am now rooting for the Brewers. I want the bra man pirates in the bags full or the the Brewers had the bags full and they couldn't get anything out of there. If there is a karma in this world and there are actually baseball gods or maybe even many. Have you ever seen angels in the outfield. No a little embarrassing but no I haven't. Yeah I know it's a bad job out of me.

It's a bad job. Have you seen angels in the outfield just wondering. Of course you've never seen like Mike because it's a terrible movie.

You can't call like Mike a terrible movie because you've never seen it. But angels in the outfield is a very good movie. If there are baseball gods or baseball angels they would make sure that the Pittsburgh Pirates lose this game tonight. They're up one up and Paul Skeens seven hitless innings seven 11 K's ninety nine pitches and they take him out of the game.

Just disgraceful absolutely disgraceful. All righty this is Zach Gelb show on the Infinity Sports Network. Stu has been out this entire week. He's under the weather is what the scouting report is on Stuart Kovacs the injury update on Stuart Kovacs and when Manny was here on Tuesday we were talking about Kawhi Leonard and Kawhi Leonard was on Team USA and I saw a team photo on my who is number eight and he looked unrecognizable and I know he hasn't played a ton and he's been in and out of the lineup a ton for the Clippers because of injuries and every year it's like death taxes and Kawhi Leonard being hurt for the playoffs and this year he played in two games and then missed the final three games I believe it was for the Clippers up against the Dallas Mavericks but I was shocked that Team USA and also the Clippers were allowing him to actually participate in the Olympics and then it comes out yesterday that he's not going to be a part of Team USA and I guess it was a decision that was made by Team USA and also the Los Angeles Clippers. So now they replaced Kawhi Leonard with Derek White of the Boston Celtics. So Manny I'll just ask you this because I have a thought on it and you are a huge basketball fan.

Sometimes though your basketball takes a little bit crazy because your Knicks love shadows a lot of your understanding of the rest of the league and the appreciation for the rest of the league. But what was your reaction yesterday. No one's surprised that Kawhi Leonard is not going to play for Team USA because you just know unfortunately that knee is never going to be able to hold up again.

But when it was announced that Derek White was the replacement what did you think. What's Jaylen Brown doing. That's my reaction to how come Jaylen Brown didn't get the call up and I thought at first maybe Jaylen Brown was hurt you know just went through a season where he won a conference finals MVP and he won an NBA Finals MVP and I'm like OK maybe he was playing through some injuries or he just didn't have interest to go. But then you see Jaylen Brown on social media. Exactly you take a look at social media with what he's posting with the with the emojis and whatnot. It looks a little cryptic as if to say hey man I was kind of available.

I think my phone didn't ring though. And Nike is the sponsor for Team USA. Jaylen Brown's not a Nike guy so he thinks this is Nike politics which I usually wouldn't buy into that. But when you are Jaylen Brown not just last year Jaylen Brown like this is last year and Jaylen Brown's complaining about it even though a lot of us realize that Jaylen Brown's one of the better two way players in the league and he's had that tag for a while. But when a spot opens up and you just won an NBA championship you just won a finals MVP and you were the best player better than Tatum who's on the team. Like I think Tatum's a better player than Jaylen Brown.

But in the last two series it wasn't even close. Jaylen Brown was the best player for the Boston Celtics and the fact that he wanted to go and not only did they pick somebody else but they picked his own teammate and I get it hey Derek White doesn't have an ego. Derek White plays great defense. Derek White if he plays two minutes won't say a word if he plays the entire game won't say a word. But does Jaylen Brown have this ego that he's not a team player like Jaylen Brown comes off to me as it as a great team player. So I have at first I would usually be like yeah I'm not buying that Nike's like oh because Jaylen Brown's not a Nike guy you can't put him on Team USA. Something's fishy. But it does not make sense how you had all these other options and you ended up going to Derek White.

That is just that don't make sense to me. Now is Brunson healthy. I don't know right because I saw I saw an SNY right. He had the was the thumb of the wrist. His whole hand fractured left hand. Yeah. So he just had surgery right with a season after game seven.

So I don't know if he if he's ready to go like if he wanted to. But an SNY last night I was watching because an SNY the local TV station here I guess after a certain hour they're they're no longer. They have a lot of tape programming but they must have played. It was like a 15 minute episode of Sports Night which is the local you know sports telecast.

They must have played that on just a loop for four hours because I had it on the background. And how many times that here Aiman McEmaney and McEmaney whatever his last name is I like him but whatever his last name is on SNY be like oh Jaylen Brown. You know the tease was there's an injury for Team USA Kawhi Leonard out of the Olympics and Jaylen Brown or to me it was Jaylen Brunson was not asked. And I'm like isn't Jaylen Brunson hurt. Yeah Jaylen Brunson is incredibly hurt.

That's why he didn't get the ass. I mean truthfully going into into the summer I thought perhaps Jaylen Brunson would be able once the preliminary squad was he should have been on before. He should have been on. He should have been on this team. But again with him breaking his hand in Game 7 of the Eastern Conference semi-finals all that all those Olympic dreams went out the window unfortunately for JB. Yeah but I don't get how you don't put the other JP.

I don't understand either. Derek White again unless Steve Kerr was looking for somebody who wouldn't like you said talk about it you know talk about getting two minutes a game. This is an Olympics team. Too much already too much star power on the team perhaps. This is an Olympic team correct? Last time I checked these are the Olympics. Not the FIBA World Cup. This is the Olympics. So the Olympics mirror an all-star team. When do you ever say yeah we're gonna take like the significantly lesser player here instead of a guy that just won the finals MVP. I'm not saying what Jaylen Brown said is a thousand percent right.

I'm not saying that but I can't tell you that he isn't wrong. You know I look at that and I'm like hmm you would hope that's not how Team USA is constructed but then you do see it and it's like how did you put forget somebody else one of his teammates on it who is not even close to the level of player that uh that Jaylen Brown here uh Jaylen Brown is in the NBA. So that was just wild.

That really is crazy. Here is uh Grant Hill who runs Team USA now. Here is uh him responding to the theory that Jaylen Brown was left off because he's not a Nike guy.

Well for a good portion of my career I wore Fila. Um so um that was supposed to be a joke. Um didn't play right. Um no look you know we're proud of our our partners obviously at USA Basketball but you know this is this is about putting together a team and and I'm glad you kind of brought that up because I think just overall you you have incredible interest an abundance of talent that we have here in the United States. You can't you know get 12 spots and you have to build a team and one of the hardest things is leaving people off the roster that I'm a fan of. Guys who've been um finals MVPs, guys who've been a part of the program, guys who've won gold medals but the responsibility that I have is to put together a team and a team that complements each other, a team that fits, a team that will give us the best opportunity for success.

And um so you know whatever theories that might be out there they're just that. Before his knees were made of tissue paper, you think that's mean of me to say Manny? Well I mean still I mean I'm pretty sure it's a sensitive subject. No I feel bad for Kawhi Leonard. Like Kawhi Leonard used to be one of the game's most feared players.

He was a silent assassin and he's played big dragons in the NBA and unfortunately his knees have not been able to hold up and now we can't expect anything out of Kawhi Leonard. But just participate through the exercise here all right. Before uh fine I'll be sensitive here. I will uh put on kitty gloves here.

I'll put on my floaties and I'll make sure Manny's feelings or anyone's feelings don't get hurt here. Thank you. Is that fine? You want some milk and some some cookies too? Yeah actually.

I'll get you some cookies, we'll get you some warm milk and we'll sing you a lullaby. But before Kawhi Leonard unfortunately had all these injuries what what was the way we talked about Kawhi Leonard just wondering? Entertain me here. How did we talk about him? Before his injuries? I mean among the best that we've seen two-way players and during his time as a spur.

Thank you. One of the best two-way players in the league. So there is Grant Hill saying a bunch of bull junk for a minute and six seconds on why Jalen Brown isn't on Team USA.

And what did he say a few times there? My role is to find the guys who are the best fit. So if you take Kawhi Leonard off the team wouldn't you try to replace him with someone that mirrors what Kawhi Leonard does when he's healthy.

Now you entertain me here Manny. Who is closer to Kawhi Leonard in style of play? Is it Derek White or is it the Finals MVP Jalen Brown? I would have to say Jalen Brown.

I would have to say Jalen Brown. I mean maybe Derek White gives you a little bit more defensively but you know what? But it's not like Jalen Brown some bum defensively.

It's not a ton. Jalen Brown's an incredible defensive player and he brings a lot more offensively. Now Derek White could hit some threes like he's a good player he's a gritty player. But I'd rather have Jalen Brown taking a jump shot than Derek White.

No doubt about it and not only that it's you have three Celtics now on this team right? You have Tatum, you have Drew Holliday and now you have Derek White. How the heck does Jalen Brown who's close to Kawhi Leonard how the heck does Jalen Brown not get on Team USA?

That Nike thing is right there and it's staring you right in the face and it's tough even though you don't want to look at it and say yeah you hope that's not the way that it's played out and I don't know everyone's affiliations and sponsorship deals that are on Team USA but you know Nike Team USA right that's a sponsor. For Jalen Brown to claim it you can't dismiss it because it makes no sense why Jalen Brown isn't on this team to replace Kawhi Leonard. But yeah sad what Kawhi is now because does anyone ever expect he's going to be healthy for a big moment? I think he'd be a fool at this point too with how many injuries we've seen him suffer and how many post-seasons he has missed and it just sucks because that dude was dominant man like we know not a lot about Kawhi Leonard.

He was just silent would show up and he would slay some of the biggest names in the NBA. All right we'll take a time out on the Zach Gilm show on the Infinity Sports Network update time. Here is the Ackerman, Rich Ackerman. Look around what do you see? Cars? Lots of them and guess what? They're probably on AutoTrader.

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I thought you were just saying Colombia very fancy there for a second. No no but again yeah I mean it was a bad look for Colombia it was a bad look for Uruguay I mean it's very unfortunate situation but allegedly according to the players from Uruguay their family members were attacked by Colombian fans. So I saw an interview that was being done and I was just reading the the translation of it obviously it wasn't in English and it was one of the players on Uruguay.

Jose Maria Jimenez if I'm not mistaken. So yeah I'm sure it's the same clip I'm not going to pretend that I know what was going on and and all that stuff like everyone else now is a soccer expert that's why I go to Manny and from what you just said and what I gather too that Colombia fans started attacking the Uruguay players families. That's what the Uruguayans are alleging yes. And that's what led to the whole Farcas.

That's yes. When I first saw that I'm like all right that would not shock me because soccer fans are crazy like they try to attack players attack players families all the time that's you know just so dumb and so lame but is there a part of it that maybe I'm just asking I'm not saying I know what was the case. Uruguay was obviously very annoyed that they lost and maybe they were a little sensitive and maybe it wasn't as bad as what people were making it out to be.

I'm just asking. The one thing I'll also add was it was a very physical match and there were a lot of very questionable plays by both teams but very much by Colombia Colombia Colombia where there was some like cheap shots so I think it was very heated to begin with and I would imagine just generally speaking Uruguay and Colombia probably don't like each other as countries anyway. I mean it's not like it's Colombia against Brazil or Argentina against you know Brazil or something like that.

Just keep on speaking Manny I like all the the pronunciation. It was it was it seemed to be a very random random two teams to get together and start fighting throw jabs at each other the way that they did. Yeah he does bring up a good point does does Mike seven yellow cards and one red card that's a lot of bookings for one game so yes it was Chippy on the floor on the floor out on the pitch but I mean again it's not it's not like these two teams are heated rivals it's not America against Mexico it's not Colombia against Brazil it's Colombia Uruguay. So who does Colombia now go on to play? That would be Leonel Messi and Argentina.

Okay. Down in Miami. And in the Euros it's Spain and I was watching the game yesterday. England. England oh yeah that's right England had that big goal late after it got one waved off what was your thoughts on that matchup? I mean the English just keep finding a way even though I continue to be not impressed by the English. There's something about the way that the English play that I just don't like I don't understand why Stu Kovacs is so infatuated with the way the English play.

But I mean hey everybody to their own I'm rooting for for La Furia Roja to get the W in the Euros. By the way did you ever know this that soccer players kick with both feet? Yeah. They shoot with both feet?

Yeah that's that's legal. Who didn't know that? That was a joke. Oh Mike Francesca years ago had like the St. John's soccer coach and he goes is he a righty or lefty? And then the guy was like I didn't know that he could you could shoot with both feet.

Yeah it's not like a hockey stick where it's just kind of like perforated to one side. No yeah I was like oh man he's going to think I'm the dumbest person in the world but obviously I thought that was I thought Samter had asked that question. No Samter's actually one of those those soccer nuts. Like I would actually say I value Sam, don't take this the wrong way.

Oh damn. Uh because no it sounds like a backhanded uh compliment but it's not meant to be so like if I was doing power rankings on what I trust Samter's opinion most on in terms of sports soccer would be one. Him and Tiki like even before Maggie and Perloff were a show even before I was here in afternoons when Tiki interior in the afternoons you know how many days I'd have to walk into work and I have to hear Samter and Tiki just talk about soccer this player that player this it's glorious wasn't it oh Tiki would have soccer on all the time and he was like oh you're into this I'm like nope and him and Samter was just like conversation after conversation when it did come to soccer. Alrighty let's get to uh this week in sports and we'll talk about more bad bad behavior what the heck was that what was that you can't just what was that that you just play you'll hear more of it in a second let's play the open no did that just say this guy sucks no I'll explain it you'll hear more of it in a second okay fire up the time machine we take a look back at the biggest moments in history on another edition of this week in sports on the Zach Gelb show. Alrighty now I have no clue what man he's gonna play into that board I was never more lost in my life.

Alright Samter what do you got cooking for us this week? Alright well this occurred on July 12th 1979 so tomorrow will be 45 years ago when this happened it was called disco demolition night at Comiskey Park for the Chicago White Sox where disco was all the rage but people were just sick of disco and at a certain point people just wanted to get rid of disco so the White Sox decided to partner with a local radio station and blow up a bunch of uh disco records in between a double header tickets were one dollar for all the fans who brought a disco record to be destroyed and things let's just say got out of hand really quickly. Disco sucks! The largest crowd of the season showed up at Chicago's Comiskey Park for the twilight double header between the White Sox and the Detroit Tigers many had come for disco demolition night.

In a few minutes we're going to attempt the world's largest disco demolition. A promotional gimmick between games as planned a huge box containing thousands of disco records was blown up rest was unplanned fans stormed out onto the field in the thousands disco records were hurled like frisbees bonfires were set bottles were thrown the batting cage was torn down and destroyed. Jimmy Pearsall back in the ballpark and I'm sure glad and I hope they don't let you people see what's going on here at Comiskey Park.

One of the saddest sights I've ever seen in a ballpark in my life this garbage of demolishing a record has turned into a fiasco. Fistfights broke out. White Sox players had to be locked in their clubhouse for their own protection.

The melee lasted an hour and a half and resulted in 39 arrests and a few minor injuries. The baseball is no longer the story it's this crowd and the White Sox may have to forfeit the second game. The baseball fans missed the second game it was canceled the White Sox lost it it was forfeited to Detroit.

The umpire chief and the president of the league has declared that the playing conditions on the field will not prohibit them to play the second ball game. And so that's what happened it was an absolute madhouse uh they had to forfeit the second game fans were destroying things on the field fires on the field uh fans trying to go after players it was absolute maniac. People hated disco this much? There was a combination of people hitting disco and then when you just blow stuff up at a baseball game fans just lose their minds and so it makes me wonder like what is the worst moment that stands out to you of fan behavior something that fans did or acted in a way that just in your head stands out as the worst moment as a fan moment? I'll never forget this I was getting ready to either I was filling in for Amy I was doing a weekend overnight and when Andrew Luck he didn't announce it he's gonna announce it I guess the next day and Schefter had that report that Andrew Luck was retiring and when Andrew Luck who put his body on the line for the Colts and made a promise to himself he couldn't participate in practice to a full go again that he would then retire when he retired basically in that preseason game and Colts fans booed him off the field even though they like didn't know what was going on they were frustrated like I could understand that but that's just terrible a guy's body couldn't hold up anymore and his lasting memory on NFL field is basically getting booed as he was walking off from the sideline into the locker room and then had to adjust everyone in a press conference play me that uh disco sucks uh drop one more time come on come on maybe uh a little less time man working on all the getting ready for the drop so we need it but anyway that was my uh my uh fan interaction go ahead what's your answer I got I got a couple that stood out obviously you have the malice and the palace yeah with the Pacers but that I mean I don't know how much of that is is the Pacers fans and how much of that was run our test but that was pretty bad obviously 1968 Eagles fans pelting Santa Claus with snowballs always stands out as a moment that is one of the worst that you can possibly remember but the one that I remember that was just like disgusting despicable and just ridiculous was this was back in 2002 this also was at uh Comiskey Park in Chicago where a father and a son ran out onto the field and brutally attacked the Royals first base coach Tom Gamboa and just started randomly beating him for no reason other than they just like wanted to beat somebody up and it was absolutely disgusting I remember that because like at least with the malice in the palace there was animosity going both ways and a fan threw a beer then the player reacted and then it just blew up this was just completely out of nowhere for no reason whatsoever so this was the moment uh back in 2002 all right Manny what do you got I mean for me it's got to be the malice at the palace I mean it's my earlier you trying to throw that to a cut just wondering oh no no you're setting it up and then you looked annoyed so that's why I asked go ahead but for me it's malice at the palace I mean it's one of my earliest sports memories I mean from really that moment on I feel as though you take a look at the penalties that were given feels as though we haven't seen anything like that at all anywhere since then so I mean for me to see it once and then pretty much not see it ever again I feel as though malice at the palace would be my answer yeah I'll also say 49ers raiders they had to cancel their preseason games I don't know if they ended up bringing it back but they had to stop doing that for a while because there were so many stabbings that would occur in bathrooms and then do you remember this was actually probably the worst one of them all you remember the Giants fan who like he took his son to the game and he got Dodgers yeah against the Dodgers the whole Giants Dodgers rivalry and the dad I think he was a doctor he got like brutally beaten and he still has a effects about like I remember reading an article a year ago Brian Stowe yeah Brian Stowe you're right he had long-term effects still to this day so that's absolutely crazy you should try to go to a sports game with the year I believe it was with the sun if I remember that right and you get brutally attacked all right this is that Gelb show on the infinity sports network I'll tell you that was not like a a fun segment right there yeah that was rough that was kind of a doom and gloom when you look at all these despicable actions and you have to relive something like people getting brutally beaten and all that oh jeez yeah I guess we could have come up with some more fun fun options like you know the snowballing Santa you think that annoys me no but that's I mean listen you can hate your team but don't hate Santa like what does Santa do so long ago I mean maybe the fans asked for you know an eagle's win for Christmas and Santa didn't deliver so they felt like they were on the naughty list also a crappy Santa if you go back and you see the whole uh coverage of it throughout the years the guy the guy was drunk there's only one Santa as drunk as a skunk he's a real Santa is real stop this I never said he wasn't you just ruined some eight-year-olds uh rest of their day that's a crappy look around what do you see cars lots of them and guess what they're probably on auto trader whether you're into timeless classics or the latest trends did somebody say solar powered eco-friendly vegan leather wrapped aroma therapy scented disco ball equipped self-driving car if you see it on the road you can likely find it on auto trader big cars small 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