Future Face of the NBA Draft (Hour 2)

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It's always football season right here on the free Odyssey app. Alright, this is Zach Gelb's show. Our number two of our radio program right here on the Infinity Sports Network.

It's time to play you some audio. It's time to update you on some of the biggest stories in the world of sports. We call this segment the News Brief. Stu, take it away. Extra, extra real about it.

Extra, extra real about it. Time for your Daily News Brief. We get you caught up on the rumors, reports and reconnaissance from the day in sports. Let's start off with a little football. This is Mack Brown, the legendary football coach with Texas. Now back obviously the last few years with UNC with the Tar Heels. He coached Drake May the last few years.

And this is Mack Brown on Drake May with the Pats, courtesy of Jones and Mega with Arkan on WEEI. He's got everything. Again, he's tall. He's a good decision maker. He's a good game manager. He is harder on himself than fans or coaches will be. But he can handle criticism. He's a big boy.

He can handle it. And he's got so much ability. He would do some things in games and in practice that I just haven't seen before. So I think he's not a good quarterback.

I think he's a great quarterback for the Patriots moving forward. When the game's over and you've got one drive to win it and very seldom did he come up short on those drives. So that also tells me that he's ready for the bigger stage. I listened to that full interview and he was talking about, as you heard a little bit in the clip there, like go back and watch the last two games up against Duke.

And that shows you everything you need to know for Drake May. No offense, Mac Brown. I know UNC Duke is very big in basketball. I don't think it ever really gets referenced when it comes to football. That's not what tells me that someone's going to be a franchise quarterback.

And I appreciate someone extending a game. And Mac Brown was like, yeah, he took him down the field. And I'm like, oh, he took him to length of the field for a touchdown.

This is going to be great. He's like, oh, they settled for a field goal. And that got the game into overtime.

Like, yeah, you'd rather continue the game. But I thought when you were gassing him up, that it was going to be for a touchdown just the way that he was setting it up. Now, I'm in a weird spot because I've never been in this spot before, after having the GOAT for 20-something years and Tom Brady. And you know, like Mac Jones, you thought maybe he could be good, but you never thought he was going to be great. Like this guy has the ceiling in Drake May of being great.

And for a few months, I want to know part of him. Then I accepted the reality and warmed up to it and started to say, okay, you got to improve the team and then get him on the field. I said before the draft that if they didn't find the way to get Brandon Iuch or Deebo Samuel, that he probably shouldn't play until late November. I wonder when it's going to occur, whether it's in the next few weeks, whether it's the summer, or early on in the season when I'll be sitting here on the radio yelling and imploring the Pats to put Drake May on the field. Because Drake May is a present that's all wrapped up and you're waiting to give the present out. But you're holding the present in your repertoire for the right moment. And I still don't know when the right moment is.

In theory I could say late November, but I don't think that's realistic. And I wonder when I'm going to say it's time to unwrap the present of Drake May for my football team. In the aftermath of the Brady roast, by the way, I saw Gisele Bündchen today, that reportedly Gisele Bündchen is deeply disappointed by all the references of her divorce during the Netflix The Greatest Roast of All Time with Tom Brady on Sunday. Gisele, give me a break. Like I understand your children have to see some of the joke, your children have to see that, but like, they're allegations, allegations, nothing proven to be true yet, but allegations that this jujitsu master in you were maybe having a little nookie time when you were still married to the great Tom Brady, which is stunning to me. When you see this photo of the jujitsu guy and you're like, you're leaving Tom Brady for that?

Very flexible, you know, I understand. But man, that like just shows that there's really no hope for most of us men in the world if Tom Brady could basically get dumped and allegedly cheated on. But now Gisele's playing victim, she's deeply disappointed. Like, why should I give a rat's ass if Gisele is deeply disappointed about the jokes? And nothing, nothing crossed the line. The Robert Kraft massage joke didn't cross the line.

The jokes about Gisele Bündchen didn't cross the line. Nothing from that roast, and it's a roast. Let me remind people, a roast, things are supposed to be said that are funny. So if you get offended by something out of roasts, you just don't appreciate comedy. It'd be like if I went to a comedy seller, which I love to do here in New York City, and I never get the people that when a funny joke is made, they're like, ooh, that crossed the line. You're in front of a bunch of dirty, filthy comedians. You know, I understand the players, everything, there aren't comedians in that, but most of the people telling the jokes are comedians. So you shouldn't get offended by anything. But one of the big points of argument, something that's been argued afterwards, has been was Tom Brady actually annoyed at Jeff Ross when Jeff Ross made that massage joke with Robert Kraft, and he's like, oh, don't say that.

We have two different stories here. Let's start with one of the comedians, Nikki Glaser. Was Brady's reaction to the Kraft joke real? This was on the Howard Stern show. I believe that was for real, because I think there was a vibe that Robert Kraft is kind of like a dad figure to Tom. He doesn't want to sit there and listen to all these jokes about him, so maybe he wouldn't show. And so, yeah, I was surprised when Jeff made that joke, but I do think that Tom actually was looking out for him. And I don't think Jeff would, I hope he wouldn't mind me saying like, yeah, afterwards he was a little like, was that too, like he was a little bit worried.

I mean, we have consciences about these things. You know, we, afterwards we go, did that really hurt his feelings? And I go, no, you know, he had to do it performatively for Robert, I'm sure, but I'm sure it was not an issue that Jeff is going to hear about today or anything like that.

Let's go to Jeff Ross to source himself on The Rich Eisen Show. Was Brady really pissed about you making a crack towards a massage joke? Come on. No? No way.

No way. Because he came up and he said, knock that ass off, Jeff. He's having fun.

Fantastic. You know, it's like, that's his dad, you know, that's like, Robert Kraft is like a father figure to him. You know, he was just showing his love for Robert Kraft and Robert Kraft loved it. We had a great talk afterwards and he was so happy that I gave him a shout out, a salute. It was beautiful.

Let's go around the room here. Stu, was Brady genuinely upset? I think he was, yes. Samter, was Brady genuinely upset?

Yes. I know people are going to call me a Brady Homer. I think it was more show. Because I think he thought he had to defend Robert Kraft there, because that's like the most sensitive topic when it comes to the whole Robert Kraft situation. But if he was actually angry, don't you think he would have seen Brady be like a little bit more emphatic there? It was like the lamest, like, hey, don't say that bleep again. You know, it's kind of like when a child curses in front of their mother and the dad's like, I've heard worse, but don't say that bleep again in front of your mother.

You have to say it, but I don't think it's actually the father being upset. I mean, he's on live national, you know, or Netflix, whatever. He's on a live show. You can see as soon as Jeff Ross says that, Brady moves around in his chair uncomfortably and looks like he's going to get up. Then they pan off of him and they show Jeff Ross in a close up and then Brady comes in. Brady, as soon as he heard that joke, was ready to pounce. Brady's not funny. If Brady was funny, this is what he would have done. Keep my owner's name out your bleeping mouth and then mock slap Jeff Ross.

That's what he should have done in the moment. Let's go to Rick Carr. Oh, by the way, moist pork makes a great point. I said it gives us no hope that Giselle left Tom Brady for the jujitsu master. Because like if Tom Brady could get allegedly cheated on, what does that say about the rest of us?

It actually, according to moist pork, does give us hope. Because it gives the average man a big boost. I never even thought about it that way. Like it's one of the few times where like the good looking golden boy quarterback doesn't get his way. And, you know, I'm not saying that this guy is like below average or whatever, but like he's like an average dude, right?

Compared to the Tom Brady circles. So it does give us a little bit of hope. Gives us all hope. It was like Kevin Federline, right? Like the backup dancer for Britney Spears, you know, takes her away from Justin Timberlake. Like that gave me hope back in the day.

So this is kind of another one of those maybe. That was like Santa's moment. Like remember in the movie with Little Bow Wow and Like Mike where he's tying the shoes? No, I don't remember that at all. You never saw that movie? Are you being serious?

Little Bow Wow? No. You never seen that movie? Never.

Never will. That looked awful. Like Mike, you've never seen that? Now I forget who it's, who's the, yeah, Calvin Cambridge is played by Bow Wow in that movie.

No, you're probably right. I've never seen it. That's a, Stu, that's a great movie. Like Mike, have you seen it? I'm someone who has seen like no movies and I've seen that movie. Okay. Yeah. So I don't know if that's good or bad for it, but I've seen it. Is Jonathan Lipnicki in that movie?

I could be wrong. Yeah, he is. But Jonathan Lipnicki, I used to have blonde hair when I was younger. And I had like the Jonathan Lipnicki glasses and Jonathan Lipnicki, he was the, uh, the kid. What's the agent movie again? Jerry Maguire. Jerry Maguire.

Great movie. Show me the money. Show me the money.

I was once often confused, which I don't see it at all. I can see it. But Jonathan Lipnicki. I can see it. As a kid, like had a fat face, round glasses, blonde hair. A lot of people thought I was Jonathan Lipnicki.

I need to see a Zach go baby picture to kind of get the full view, but I can see it. You've never seen like Mike? Now here's the thing. How, you've never seen it? No, no. And I never will.

It looks awful. It's a great movie. Okay. What year did it come out? I don't know. All right.

So I'm assuming. 2002. July 3rd, 2002. Okay. I was 22 at the time.

That's a kid's movie for like little kids watching sports. In 2002, you were what? Eight? Nine? Younger. Younger. Yeah.

So like for you, that was your demographic. No, no, no, no, no. I'll make you the comparison. In 2002, that was not my, that was not my movie. What was the, the Sandler movie that came out that was shot at Temple with Anthony Edwards in it? Hustle. Hustle. That was like Stu. Did you see Hustle? I did.

Yes. Would you make the comparison that was Hustle before Hustle? Like Mike, where the little kid can dunk a basketball is like Hustle, which is an actual movie about scouting international players and playing in the NBA.

Dirk Nowitzki, Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, Allen Iverson. They were all in it. It's Space Jam.

It's not Hustle. It's Space Jam. Did you not like Space Jam?

Yeah, but I was a kid when I saw Space Jam. I'm sorry. You, you have to see like mine. I refuse.

I'm actually stumped. Like I'm not even, I hate the radio host. It's like tell me to watch Air Bud. I hate Air Bud. Great movie.

Oh my God. I hate the radio host that goes, how have you never seen this movie? But how have you never seen this movie?

Like no writer. We're arguing about like, we're not talking about Field of Dreams or Rudy. Did you like Angels in the Outfield? Yeah, but I was a kid when that came out. That's a great movie regardless Angels in the Outfield. Come on!

No chance I would ever see like Mike. And first of all, Angels in the Outfield was not a great movie. Of all the kids baseball movies, that's probably the worst one. Rookie of the Year was better. Little Big League was better. Angels in the Outfield was a good movie. It was fine. It was fine. Did you not like Air Bud?

No! When that nasty owner tries to get the puppy with the... No, I like the air up there. That's a good basketball movie. Did you ever see the air up there? With Kevin Bacon where he goes to Africa to scout this superstar player who's like hidden in some African tribe. Awesome movie. Did you see Blue Chips?

Friends of the Program? Blue Chips and the Program are two of my favorite sports movies of all time. Those are great movies. Those are legitimately good sports movies. I'm honestly beside myself.

Like Mike is the equivalent of Little Big League. It's a kids movie. I love how emphatic you are about something that you have never even heard of, you've never even seen. I've heard of it.

You heard of it? I just said it six minutes ago. You had no clue what I was talking about.

I was speaking a different language to you. No, no, no. I was shocked that you were bringing up that movie. I was like, like Mike, that movie?

Of course I know that movie, Little Bow Wow. But I've never seen it because it looks awful. It looks terrible. I've noticed something here. Producers here, when they are wrong, they just double and triple and quadruple down.

It's okay in radio to say you're wrong. You've never seen it. How can you say it sucks when you've never seen it?

Okay, so you're the person that goes, oh, that meal looks disgusting. It sucks, but you've never tried it. You can't say something sucks until you try it. I'm not saying that it sucks. I'm saying I will never see it because it looks awful. It looks like you are saying it sucks then. Yeah, it looks like it's terrible. A little kid who can play NBA basketball, it just looks awful. Terrible, awful, awful, awful.

Hey Stu, do me a favor, turn to reality. Rick Carlisle on the refs in game one versus the Knicks. I don't want to talk about the officiating. We're not expecting to get calls in here.

It would be nice if they laid off that one, but they didn't, so that's just the way it goes. We challenged it, they reviewed it, they got a bunch of people in New Jersey that agreed with them, so that's just the way it goes. What is he going to say there? He knows if he criticizes the officials, he's just going to get hit with the fine.

The illegal screen was bullcrap and the kickball was just a terrible call. Let's go to Anthony Edwards. He defends his teammate Karl Anthony Towns when he gets a question that he did not like. Kat, years and years ago when you came into this league as the number one pick, does it feel good to be getting back to that and showing your capabilities again and not just being viewed as the stat stuffer? He was never viewed as a stat stuffer or just a... No, no, I know that. I'm just saying he was never viewed as that. Especially when I got here, I always thought he was a great defensive player. He just had to put his mind to it. When Finchey got here, Finchey put emphasis on, hey, Ann and Kat, if we want to go somewhere, we got to defend.

Like he said, that's the head of the snake. Hearing that from him, it pushed Kat. I tell Kat, we need you to defend. Corliss tells Kat, we need you to defend the whole team. And ever since he's been back this whole year, man, since he's been at the 4, he's been defending his ass off. He's been playing great and we hope he continues to do it. Karl Anthony Towns I think was always someone that we said, okay, could be a top 10 player, is really good, but it felt like he was missing something.

And now it's nice to see in a moment like last night, where all the attention was going to Anthony Edwards, Karl Anthony Towns really did set the tone to that game, especially with Rudy Gobert out of the lineup. Here is Chris Finch, the coach of the Minnesota Timberwolves on Jamal Murray throwing a heat pack on the court last night. Chris Finch I didn't actually see it happen, but when it was explained to me, the referees didn't see it either, so they're not able to issue a technical unless they see it. We tried to impress upon them that there probably aren't many fans in the building that have a heat pack, so it probably had to come from the bench, which they found logical. But yeah, it's inexcusable and dangerous.

I'm sure it was just a mistake and an oversight. I'm sure there was nothing intentional by the officiating at all, but certainly can't allow that to happen. It's amazing how there was no punitive action on the court last night for Jamal Murray when he threw a towel at a ref and threw a heat pack on the court as well. That's just crazy to me. And even doing the money sign, too, to the officials.

He's got to get a game suspension. I'll play you two more. Here's Nicole Jokic. How about coming back from down 0-2 and winning four more games in the series?

What do you say? Nicolas, teams have come back from down 2-0 before. Where is your confidence that this team can regroup over the next three days and give Minnesota a fight at home and extend the series? I know this guy showed no emotion when he won a championship, but can you show a little energy there? Can you make it seem like you at least think this team is going to come back?

Can you do that? Can you at least make me think that this team is going to come back and give me a little energy instead of me just thinking when I hear that you just want to go play with your horses coming up in a few weeks? There we go.

The music's back. That's a long news brief. Well, that's what happens when we get into a Like Mike debate. And Santer, who should like Mike with his name being Mike Santer, doesn't like the movie like Mike.

52% on Rotten Tomatoes. All right. So you're the same. You know who you are?

You're like my sister. I won't eat at that restaurant because the Yelp review isn't good. Okay.

Well, I've had the food at the restaurant, so I don't care what some other trolls and jackasses say on social media. You're the first person I've ever spoken to who's actually said that movie wasn't the worst thing they've ever seen. It's a good movie. It's a fun movie.

I'm not saying it deserves an Academy Award, but it's a good, fun movie. I saw some clip of him like, I guess at halftime, he was like going one-on-one against one of the players and he's wearing special shoes instead of being dunked on one of the players. All right. Let's get to Patrick Beverley. This is Patrick Beverley apologizing for throwing the ball at the fan last week, this credit of the Pat Beverley pot. What happened at the end of the Bucks game? Unfortunate situation. That should have never happened. What I did was bad and that should have never happened.

I have to be better and I will be better. That should have never happened. Regardless of what was said, that should have never happened. Simple as that. Let's just say it was more than Cancun on three.

Okay. So that report from Shoms was just a fraction of the story? Let's just say it was more than that. I've been called a lot of stuff in this league. I haven't been called that one.

Still an excuse, but it doesn't matter. What was said? I have to be better and I will be better. I'm not going to take away from the fans that were great. It was some people that took it a little bit too far. I'm here to set the record straight.

I was absolutely wrong and I need to be better than I will. I'm not the guy to get fans kicked out neither. The things that were said to me, I could have got four or five fans kicked out. Literally security walked up to them. You want to get that fan thrown out?

Nah, man. You can say anything when you win it. That's what happens when you win. You can literally say anything. And some people would have said, Pat, man, you should have got them kicked out.

That would have never happened. I'm not getting no fans kicked out. People who spend money to watch us play, I'm not getting them kicked out. Everyone who stepped out of line and said something like, too crazy, all of them apologized.

It was just some people who, you know, just crossed the line a little bit. Can't throw basketballs at people. No, will not. Will never happen again. Never.

I ain't bring a basketball on the bench no more, man. I usually don't like to evaluate people's apologies. That's such a half-ass apology. Where you say, oh, it wasn't just Cancun on three. I'm not going to tell you what was said to me. But I was in the wrong. Why can't we just be honest and why can't you just say what was said to you? And if it was something that was that crazy, no one got it on video, no one got it on camera?

When they're right there at the bench, you know, in the year of 2024. So, whatever. Remove it on from Pat Beth.

Alrighty, this is that Gilb Show on the Infinity Sports Network. Santa, I actually have a question for you when we come on back. It has nothing to do with Mike. Thank goodness. Well, yeah, we don't need to hear you embarrass yourself anymore. But Gilbert Arenas said something, and I'm just curious what your fatherly take is on what Gilbert Arenas said.

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Minimum $10 per order, additional term supply. It is the Zach Gilb Show on the Infinity Sports Network. I just saw a very interesting poll question during the break, and it pertains to our former boss, Spike Eskin. So in his new show in Philly, 94 WIP Afternoons, there's a poll question.

They had Howie Roseman, the Eagles' general manager, on today. How would you grade how Spike Eskin did on the Howie Roseman interview? A, B, C, or D?

I know you only got four choices, how do you even put an F there? Like, I think we could skip, like, I think you go A, B, C, F, right? I don't think you need the D in that case, but 42.7% said that Spike did a D in the interview. Now, we've had to sit through a lot of reviews with Spike, every show on the network. And I appreciate Spike's feedback, but I feel like it would be really now fun, since you don't usually have a program director then go and be a host, if we all got to review our former boss in Spike Eskin and he had to meet with us, you know, at least meet with one host a week from the network, and we get to review him and listen to one of his segments. I am going to listen to this interview, because, right, Santer, if, like, their afternoon shows putting out this poll question on how Spike did, something either confrontational, contentious, or just something wrong by Spike, somewhere in that ballpark had to happen if they are now having people evaluate how Spike did in the interview. See, no, knowing our former boss, I get the impression that he went into the interview and they were talking about how good of an interviewer he was, or he was bragging about how great he was going to do, or something along the lines where going into it, it was a question of, like, how Spike is going to do, that they had talked about it previously, either on the air or off the air, and this was their way of kind of grading him based off of that pre-judgment. Is that you saying that Spike isn't afraid to brag about his accomplishments? Is that the nice way of you saying it? That is very true. Just making sure. And let the record be known, I am a fan of Spike Eskin. So am I.

He's a very confident guy and he's very good at what he does, but he's not afraid to show it. Now, we never really had any contentious meetings with Spike. Were there any contentious meetings on the old show that you produced? Maggie and Perloff with Spike and you. Like, did you guys ever butt heads?

No, no, no. I get along very well with Spike. I just, I know how Spike's persona is, especially on the air. Spike on the air, he likes to be a little... His bleep don't stank. Yeah, and listen, I mean, he has a very successful podcast and he has the same persona on the air of his podcast. And it's not about his bleep not stinking, it's, you know, he likes to be very sure of himself on the air and it's part of his persona.

And you know what? He does it well. Let's go to Gilbert Arenas. This is on his podcast.

I feel like he says at least one crazy thing per week, or one viral thing per week, if not more than that. Gilbert Arenas ripped Rudy Gobert for missing the game last night as Rudy Gobert welcomed in his first child. Listen up. Let me rip up this game for that baby.

I'll see you after. It's the baby, bro. It's gonna be there when you get back. I mean, I'm just saying, I'm just saying, the baby gonna be trusty. The baby gonna, it don't know, whatever you about to think you about to do with the baby, he gonna be sweet. Need that skin-to-skin contact.

Sweet, okay, yeah, yeah, skin-to-skin in two days. Right on the bleep. The whole time, right on the bleep. I need some milk. You want to be with your wife and smile and stuff and your good NBA healthcare insurance. Right.

It's because of you playing. Right. So, I don't think it's a fair topic to say. Would you miss a day of work or an important day of work to see the birth of your first child? Because like, no offense, I love what we do.

Very fortunate to do what we do. If you miss one show, people will survive. The world's not gonna come to an end. But when we talk about sports, people get super duper serious.

And you miss a playoff game, you have people that formulate takes like that. So, Santa, I'm curious your opinion on this. Santa, new father, first time father, what, about a year and a half ago, I would say?

Coming up on 17 months and 5 days. Who's counting? I am.

Maybe only you and your wife. Would you miss the birth of your child if, let's say, you were an NBA player and you were in a pivotal playoff game? So, there's a qualification to it.

There's a couple of qualifications. One, is this your first child or is this one of many? Okay, this is the first child for Rudy Gobert. Okay, and assuming this would be my first child as well.

Yes. Now, is this game 2 of a second round playoff series or is this game 6 of the NBA Finals? Game 2 as it was last night. Okay, so under those conditions, first child, game 2, on the road, up 1-0, in the second round of the NBA playoffs, of course I'm missing it. If this is game 6 of the NBA Finals... You're missing the birth? The game.

The game you're missing. 100% for the first child. But, if it's game 6 of the finals, game 7 of the finals, that's where it gets a little dicey, right?

That's where it becomes kind of a question. If this is a game 6, game 7, a pivotal win or go home type of game, it becomes a little bit dicey. First child, you should really always be there. However, game 6, game 7, that kind of, even a 2-2 game 5, that's tough. But game 2, second round, not even a question. I think it has to be an elite sporting event to miss the birth of your first child. Like, for example, remember, I don't know if it was his first child, but the whole Scottie Scheffler situation at the Masters, people were wondering if he was going to have to leave early.

I never thought he was going to leave the Masters, even though he said he would have. If it's game 7 of a Stanley Cup Final, if it's a Super Bowl, if it's game 7 of the NBA Finals, okay, I could see that. But I can't get on this train of ripping Rudy Gobert last night, and they blew out the Nuggets anyway. But I can't say I'm going to rip Rudy Gobert for missing the game to see the birth of his first child. Stu, where are you at on this one, just wondering?

Yeah, I can't blame him, and I think I'm kind of with Mike. In his scenario, there's no way I'm missing the birth, but as the stakes get higher in game 7 of the Super Bowl, then, I don't know. I'm glad I don't have to decide that. I really couldn't even crush the person if they said I'm going to miss game 7 of the NBA Finals because my child's getting bored.

I couldn't crush them there. I may be loud on the radio, some people may not think that I'm an understanding human being and I have a heart. That's the birth of your child. You even said something like, well, if it's your first child, I get it. Even if it's your second and your third child.

Now, if you're like Antonio Cromartie and you have like 9,000 kids, alright, that's a little bit different. But if you're having like one, two or three kids, I can even understand missing that because that's such a special moment. Like, you know, there's life events, getting married, having your children being born. Like, you're telling me a birthday party, alright, you can miss.

You're telling me a best friend's engagement party, like, okay, you can miss. You know, I don't know how many times this happens in the NBA world, but if your son or daughter's having a bar about mitzvah and it somehow happens to line up with game 7, you can miss the horror for crying out loud. But the birth of your child, that's a tough one to miss.

Game 7 of the Finals? Here's the thing, you miss the birth of your child, you can explain it away with the game 7 of the Finals and the kid will not know any different. Momma, Dada, you don't love me!

Or Dada don't love me! In 20 years, no one's gonna care, no one's gonna think about it, the kid won't even know unless you tell him. Game 7 of the Finals would last likely forever.

Or at least would last for decades. How many siblings do you have, by the way? Three brothers. Stu, do you have any siblings?

I don't, only child. How often does the favorite conversation come up when you were maybe younger between your siblings? Who's mom and dad's favorite? The reality was, fortunately or unfortunately, it never came up because there was never a question of who the favorite was. It wasn't you. I was so clearly the favorite that it wasn't even a question. My two older brothers always screwed around in school, my younger brother always caused problems in school. But let's say that conversation comes up. If one child didn't even have his father at the birth, you can't be the favorite.

You weren't important enough. I totally disagree, right? Because the favorite is based off of the kid's personality, not based off of a moment of its life that you were there for or not. So the favorite is based off of which kid do you like the most, not which kid did you attend more events for.

I don't know how juvenile that game gets. Like, if let's just say my dad wasn't at the birth of my sister, but he's at the birth for me, that's the easy trump card. It's the easy trump card right there. Right, but you can always be like, yeah, but he missed mine for game seven. He missed your baseball game because his foot hurt or whatever. Like, you can always, game seven trumps all. Game seven trumps all, especially a finals game seven.

I don't know, man. Game seven to the finals, I'm missing everything. So don't get me wrong, I would probably in that decision play in the game, but I can't crush someone if they're like, I'm not. I wouldn't crush them, but I would question their loyalty to their sport. Remember like years ago, this had to be 15 years ago, when Boomer, he crushed some player for missing like six or seven days on paternity leave. And he's like, guy, get your ass back and play. And he got shredded nationally for it. Gilbert Arenas says it though, has he got shredded for this? I'm sure on social media people are shredded, but I haven't seen a lot of articles about it.

Not just trolls. Yeah, listen, if Gilbert ends up missing game three so he can just be with his family, then maybe there's more conversation about it. As long as everyone's healthy.

The birth of your child is a singular moment, whereas Boomer was probably doing the whole like, hey, you've been gone for long enough time to kind of get back with your teammates, but still, either way, game seven, there's no chance of missing it. We will draft the faces, the future faces of the NBA when we come on back. Update time first. Here's the Ackman. Rich Ackerman.

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Contact Wesley Financial Group right now and get a free timeshare exit information kit at wesleyfinancialgroup.com. So we're going to do a face of the NBA draft right now. Here's how it's going to work.

Three picks each. We've been talking about who's the future face of the NBA for the last two weeks. We're going to set the bar 29 years or younger today. Got to be 29 years or younger, and that will put you in the running. So under 30 for face of the NBA.

I'll start off. Anthony Edwards. I will take the guy that is the topic of the last two weeks, and you have a big star on the court, big star off the court, great personality.

A lot of people forget about the Sandler movie when talking about him. That showed a lot of his personality when we talk about off the court stuff. But what's not to like with Anthony Edwards, who has a commanding 2-0 lead up against the defending champion Denver Nuggets. Let's see real quickly how we're going to decide this. I'm thinking of a number one or two.

Stu, what say you? Number two. It is number one. Sandler, would you like to go second or would you like to go third? I'm going second.

Okay. Who do you want to go with? I'm going with the number one overall pick without a doubt. The face of the NBA is going to be Victor Wenbyama. The guy is going to dominate the league for 15 years. It's an easy win for me. Who won rookie of the year last night?

Unanimously. So what does Perloff have to do because he was calling him Wenbusyama when he was getting drafted? He has to drive to San Antonio with a sign that says I'm sorry Wenby and walk up and down the riverwalk and go around the Alamo and apologize to Wenby and all San Antonians for his mistake. I know Charles Barkley doesn't like going to San Antonio because he always crushes a woman in San Antonio, which is not nice by the Chuckster. I don't want to drive with Perloff, but I wouldn't mind flying into San Antonio, being there for moral support and then flying back. I have a friend whose family lives in San Antonio and they have this great diner, Max and Louie's New York Diner, which looks great.

I've never tried it yet. So I wouldn't mind joining and maybe going to a Spurs game and hanging out with Perloff there. So maybe we'll talk to him about that. But anyway, now he has to drive there and back. He has to drive, Santa? No, he's going to drive there, leave his car in San Antonio and fly back. Perloff has a lot of money and he could ship that baby back. He could rent the car too and then drop it off in San Antonio.

He'll do the whole thing I think. That's miserable. That's painful. That is painful. How long does that drive?

Let's see. New York City to San Antonio driving. It says 27 hours. I've done the drive. And Perloff to the Hive maintenance. That's at least taken three days.

At least. So when I lived in Arizona, I drove from New York to Arizona. Did you live in Arizona?

I've never heard that. Yeah. So I drove from New York to Arizona and then Arizona back to New York.

It took me three days each way. Is it from Arizona? Yes. And Arizona is much farther. That shows you how bad my geography is. I thought Arizona would be closer. From New York? Yeah.

Your geography does not work very well here. Let's see. Arizona to San Antonio driving. It says 15 hours. From San Antonio to Arizona? Yeah.

So it's an extra 15 hours from New York. No. Sorry. I thought you said Arizona was further away and I thought it would have been a lot closer.

No. Arizona is further away from New York than San Antonio is. Sorry. I thought you meant to San Antonio. I didn't know you meant Arizona to New York. Gotcha.

That's where the hiccup was. I'm saying I drove from Arizona to New York. I did that in three days. And that's 15 hours farther away than San Antonio is. So Perloff could do it in two. Maybe he does it in...

He's high maintenance. There's no way Perloff has the attention span to go two hours without making a stop somewhere. You know what?

I think that Perloff can do, you know, if you're doing what? 27 hours? 13 hours a day? Yeah, you could do it. 13 hours?

Alrighty. So Anthony Edwards off the board. Victor Wambunyama.

29 to younger. Three picks each. Face of the NBA. Stu, you get two. I get two picks here. You guys took the top two in my opinion.

I think I get the next two. Two guys that are a little older than the two guys you picked. But I like Jokic and Giannis. I still think they both have immense ceilings.

They both have won titles. And I think, you know, with LeBron and Steph being out, I think Jokic and Giannis could easily be the faces of the NBA. So I'll go Jokic and Giannis with my two picks. Samter, coming back around. I'm going with the guy who I probably would have picked second overall. That's Luka Doncic. So I'm taking, I'm taking Wembley and Luka as my top two picks.

Yeah, I had him. That was going to be my pick. I was hoping you were going to go somewhere else. Alrighty.

Hmm. I get two picks here. I'm going to go, man. There's one guy on this list that if he doesn't make the list, I will be a little bit disappointed. But I will take SGA, J. Gilgis Alexander.

And I will then also take Jason Tatum. I thought that he was going to slip through. There are, there's one name on this list that needs to go. I don't know if it needs to go.

I'd just be disappointed if it, if it doesn't go. But this is back to Samter. Samter, who are we cooking with? Alright. So let me set it up here and give Samter a minute to think.

Under 30, 29 or younger. Faces of the NBA. My three picks are in. Anthony Edwards.

We'll do it in order. Anthony Edwards to me. When Benyama to Samter. Stu, Snake, Jokic, Giannis. Back to Samter.

Luka Doncic. And I just got a Snake and got Shaye Gilgis Alexander and Jason Tatum. Saying that, every time I hear Shaye Gilgis Alexander, I just want to say Shaye Gilgis Alexander, whatever Jack Stern called. Alrighty, Samter.

Man, this is tough. So the guy that I've been not on all year long and he's proven me wrong every step of the way is Jalen Brunson. I'm not sure if I'm quite ready to jump on the Brunson bandwagon yet, but when you're in New York and the Knicks are so... ...meeting of being a team and a star, Jalen Brunson could literally take over the league. But I just don't think he's there yet. Oh, you're not picking him? I'm not going to take him. I'm going to take a controversial name who I think would have been the face of the NBA if he didn't get into trouble. But he still has a chance to redeem himself. He's that good. I'm going Ja Morant.

Mmm, it's a good one. I thought for a second you'd go Zion Williamson, but then you said trouble and I'm like he didn't get into trouble. Outside of Mariah Mills. If you asked me this question last year, I would have made Zion my second round pick or something like that. Zion I thought was going to be the guy. The fact that we talked about this on the air.

The fact that he had a great year and nobody talked about him. The boat has passed. The opportunity is gone.

Zion is no longer an opportunity to be the face of the NBA. Alrighty, Stu. What do we got? I have four names on my list. I have Devin Booker, Jalen Brunson, Zion, and Bancaro. Okay.

It's tough. No Trae Young, no Donovan Mitchell? No, I don't see those guys as faces of the league.

I actually don't even see Booker and Brunson. You mentioned one of the names. One of the names that I would like to see get on this list. Yeah, I think it's Bancaro, right? I think that's the one you're thinking of.

I'm not going to give you the answer to the test. That's who I'm going to take. Zion I think could be as well, but I just think there are just too many red flags and too many concerns with Zion. So I think Bancaro has the better chance of becoming a face.

Who are you for? Bancaro, Zion, Brunson, and Booker. I'm surprised Booker didn't go.

That was not the name I was talking about. But right now I feel like he's in the shadow of Kevin Durant, so I get it. Zion I didn't even consider until Santor kind of traveled down that road I thought he was.

Brunson I feel like should be on it, but the guy I was saying if I had a third pick and I was picking last year, Paulo Bancaro. Because that dude with what he did from year one to year two, rookie of the year, year one, and then year two NBA All-Star, very impressive. And the fact that he's a Dookie, I mean like say what you will, Duke players just have higher profiles and their faces are known, their names are known, I think it's interesting. Every time that we say Duke I think of J.J. Reddick. Emphasize the last few letters there. Blue Devils are known, they might be hated, but they're known.

Or the way that they at least sound. Anthony Edwards, SGA, Tatum for me, Wembe, Doncic, Morant for Santor, Joker, Giannis, Bancaro for Stu. Being in New York and being Jalen Brunson is a fascinating one because he doesn't have a star personality but on the court.

Star, star, star, star, star, no doubt about it. Coming on back, Sean Merriman will join us on the other side, we'll talk some football. Hey everyone, Boomer Esiason here. The NFL Draft is behind us and your favorite team is now gearing up for week number one. The free Odyssey app puts you right in the middle of the pro football conversation with the biggest sports radio stations from across the country. The local voices who know your team the best, giving you their unfiltered takes on the current state of your squad. It's always football season right here on the free Odyssey app.