Michigan needs to bow down to Harbaugh (Hour 2)

I'm sick of talking about those embarrassing Eagles. It is the Zach Gelb show on CBS Sports Radio, a team that showed zero heart down the stretch and a team that quit. So let's put the Eagles on the back burner for about 20 minutes.

Hugh Douglas, former Philadelphia Eagle, he's going to join us 20 minutes from right now, right here on the Zach Gelb show on CBS Sports Radio. But let's talk about some champions and then also let's talk about a team that even though they could have tapped out, they did not quit. That's the Michigan Wolverines. They're the champions. And then a team that used to be champions, the Pittsburgh Steelers, which they have not won a playoff game since the 2016 season. They were a team that lost T.J. Watt. They didn't have him for the playoff game, right? They're playing Mason Rudolph at quarterback.

And even when they were down multiple scores up against the Buffalo Bills, they still found a way to get back into the game before Buffalo and Josh Allen ended up being the superior team yesterday afternoon in snowy, frigid Buffalo. Let's start, though, with Michigan and with Jim Harbaugh. So this idea that Jim Harbaugh is coming back to return to Michigan, I think it's unlikely because the reason why I'll keep on saying that it's unlikely is this offer now has been out on the table for a while.

And I know there's been different reports, like one was 10 years, 125 million. Then Dan Wetzel comes out with the article today that the contract would be six years at eleven point five million guaranteed per year, which would make him the highest paid coach in football. But there has been an offer to some capacity that has been there for the taking. And Harbaugh hasn't accepted it. Now, we know the last two years and thankfully didn't get offered an NFL job that Jim Harbaugh, if he would have been offered by Questia Dofa Mensah, the Vikings job, he would have taken it.

He was in that interview for 12 hours or so. And then last offseason, whether the Broncos or the Panthers didn't want him for whatever the reasons were, he wasn't offered a job. Now, it was good for Michigan that he came back. It was good for Harbaugh that he came back because it was a last dance sort of feel with the Michigan Wolverines. And they ended up, even with all the sanctions and the scandals that happened or appending, once everyone found out about Connor Stallions and the sign stealing, well, they put the ball down. Everything was even. Michigan said, we'll run right through Penn State, no problem.

All right. You factor and sandwich in Maryland in between. You want to take the coach away up against Ohio State. It doesn't matter. Kyle McCord will end up throwing interception. You want to go up against the greatest college football coach of all time. And Nick Saban, while they're trended in Alabama, was hot. And you could roll tide.

Doesn't matter. They'll beat them in overtime after they made a bunch of mistakes. And then up, it's Big Bad Washington coming to town, to H-Town for the national championship game.

Michael Penix Jr. is the greatest thing on earth. Kalen DeBoer, who is a friend to the show, sensational coach. People are saying Washington's going to win. Washington's going to win. And Michigan took it to them. And Michigan made them not even, you know, they didn't have to break a sweat in the fourth quarter, where they set the tone with two big runs early on by Donovan Edwards, both that resulted in touchdowns. So Harbaugh has done everything he could and then some at Michigan. Like, remember three years ago, no one thought Harbaugh was going to look back at his tenure at Michigan and it was going to be favorable or it was going to be positive. Like, yeah, he got the program back to respectability. But ultimately, when you can't win a Big Ten championship, when you can't beat Ohio State, you're not going to be overly lauded for those efforts of just making Michigan a 9 or 10 win team each and every year and you lose to Ohio State. Heck, that's basically what Penn State has turned out to be. But I don't need to trash Penn State today.

I do that enough. 364 other days out of the year. So Harbaugh took it to a level that no one saw was coming outside of J.J. McCarthy.

We know the one thing that's still burning his tummy and you have to look at it from a human standpoint, too. You finally got your championship. You got your championship at your alma mater. But before that, as great of a coach as you've been and I love Harbaugh, absolutely adore Harbaugh. When you lose a Super Bowl to your brother, not just lose a Super Bowl, but lose a Super Bowl to your brother where you were down and out to start.

You make this great comeback and then your team stalled with 10 yards to go in the red zone. That's got to motivate you every day. That's got to eat at you every day because sometimes you could compartmentalize a loss and you could store it away when the person you lost to is your brother. And how much you see your brother and how tight of a family are. Every time you see your brother, Jim Harbaugh's got to be thinking, man, I lost to that mother bleeper in a Super Bowl.

You just have to naturally. It's like when, for example, you break up with someone and then you keep on seeing that person on social media. It's like a constant reminder of what you had.

But you could ultimately unfollow someone on social media or as the kids do now, mute someone on social media. But when this is your blood, when this is your family, this is your brother who you love, you see him all the time. The only way to have that feeling go away to some point is to go win it all. And Harbaugh talking about Jim has accomplished everything at Michigan. Now it's time to go chase that Lombardi Trophy and you win a national championship and a Lombardi Trophy. You go down as one of the greatest coaches ever. And that's not hyperbole.

That puts you in an elite fraternity. And I understand you won't ever be considered the greatest pro football coach of all time. But I'm just talking about football coaches because he's everything he's done in college has been winning. And in the pros, even though he didn't win a Super Bowl, I know that's what you play for. He did go to three NFC title games and a Super Bowl in four years as the coach of the Niners.

You land in Los Angeles with the Chargers, you land in Philadelphia or you land in in Dallas, wherever it is, and you win it all. Man, that makes one unique resume for maybe the most unique coach I've ever encountered. Because Harbaugh, you could never predict him. Harbaugh is a good dude, but he's a strange dude. And I don't know where he's going to land like the Chargers makes a ton of sense.

He's already interviewed them, you know, interviewed with them. But it seems like too obvious. But sometimes when you always have a person that goes the other way, when you expect him to go one way, you know, maybe with everyone saying he'll go to the Chargers, that's one of the rare times we're actually do what everyone's expecting him. But this one stipulation in the contract, I know people are making a big deal out of this, like, oh, it's a guilty conscience. Oh, Harbaugh knows that there's big things around the corner. Like, no crap. Before the season, even before we found out about Connor Stallions and the whole sign stealing scandal, which is one of the biggest overblown controversies I could ever remember, there was already a pending punishment that you knew was brewing when they self imposed a three game suspension on Harbaugh because of the cheeseburgers and the recruiting infractions and coaches with impermissible contact.

When you had COVID. And if you remember, they were supposed to, the NCAA committee of infractions and Harbaugh, they were going to agree to a three game suspension, but they wanted Harbaugh to genuflect to the NCAA and say that he lied to NCAA investigators. Like, I don't even think the NCAA is even that annoyed with the infractions.

It's more so than being petty because Harbaugh lied about it or allegedly lied about it. So just based off that, if he was going to agree and bow down, he would have got three games since he didn't bow down and they self imposed three games. I don't think this is just going to be a four game suspension, you know, one extra game.

So he's probably going to get two more games, you know, just based off that. And now you have the Stallion scandal where the Big Ten already popped him with the three game suspension against Penn State, Maryland and Ohio State meant nothing because the Michigan Wolverines, which is the best team in college football this year, and they won all three of those games. And even though, right, the NCAA comes out the other day and they're like, nope, this is a legitimate championship, there's no asterisk on it, you know, everything was even and look what Michigan did, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The committee of infractions still going to go after Harbaugh. And I don't even know how you could speculate or what you're going to speculate the numbers going to be with this overblown scandal from what happened with the whole sign stealing investigation. So I don't fault Jim Harbaugh whatsoever.

Like, it doesn't take a dummy. Don't give Michigan an out. And if Michigan is having this prevent why the extension isn't getting done with this immunity termination that Harbaugh wants or any findings from multiple current NCAA investigations, if that's what you let get in the way from this deal getting done, then you're a bunch of morons and you deserve to lose Jim Harbaugh.

Because whether it's the cheeseburgers or the impermissible contact or whether it's the sign stealing, who cares even if he misses the entirety of next year? Your reaction shouldn't be to fire this guy or have it out to get rid of this guy. You already know what's pending.

Now, something else pops up that's out of your control. So be it. But this dude is one of you. This dude is an alum of your university. This is his alma mater.

And as a coach, he just came back, restored the program and then some and just won you a national championship. Who gives a rat's ass if he bought some kid a cheeseburger? Who gives a rat's ass if he knew what Connor Stallions was doing or not? Because when everything was even, you put the ball down. Blake Coram ran it right down your throat. Donovan Edwards did too.

Mikey Sanders still was great at the defensive side of the ball. Will Johnson picked off Michael Pettis. You're like, who cares?

You won. So who cares what he did in the past or may have done in the past? But this stuff could come out and it could get leaked out. I still have a tough time envisioning Harbaugh back there next year because once again, I think Harbaugh wants to go back to the NFL and chase that dream of winning the Lombardi Trophy. And even to some extent, Harbaugh probably even doubted that he was going to get a national championship at Michigan because right after he beat Ohio State once and won the Big Ten, he was right in an interview room, practically begging for the Vikings job. Now he came back, beat Ohio State again, won another one another Big Ten championship, then tried to get another job last hiring cycle after saying he wouldn't. And the Viking thing wanted to be a yearly occurrence.

And here we are once again, it being another yearly occurrence. But now you beat Ohio State for three times in a row. You've won three straight Big Ten championships and oh yeah, by the way, you won a national championship. So I think pretty much mission is accomplished for Jim Harbaugh and just as long as he gets offered a job this hiring cycle with a bunch of jobs available, I think he's as good as gone from Michigan. The only way he lands back at Michigan, if someone doesn't offer him a job. In the last two years, we haven't seen someone offer him a job in the NFL.

Is that going to be three years in a row? I would highly doubt it. So I don't really care about this contract and all the details from Dan Wetzel and stuff like that or these other guys like John U Bacon and things along those lines.

It doesn't matter to me. It's clear Harbaugh, his preference for next year is to be in the NFL no matter how he spins it with how it plays out. So let's get to the aftermath of the Steelers and Bills game yesterday because I have a thought on this and there's a new report that's out there. This is a little tough to hear because he's just walking away in silence. But this is how it went down between the media Mike Tomlin when they asked about his future after the Steelers season did come to a close in the wildcard round where they lost to the Bills in Orchard Park. Anyone like you have a year left on your contract.

So there you go. And that silence is him rolling his eyes and walking off to the podium. I go back to when Mike Tomlin had a report come out where the report was Mike USC is going to show interest something along the lines of Mike Tomlin and Mike Tomlin was asked about it. He went on this rant. He's like you think Belichick has to deal with this stuff. Do you think Andy Reid has to deal with this stuff and he got annoyed. I think at that moment Mike Tomlin said well people don't believe me then they'll never believe me whenever it comes to my future. So anytime I'm going to be asked about my future I'm just not going to give an answer and I'm going to end the press conference.

I read absolutely zero into that response. I know there's a year left on the contract. I know there's been speculation on the future of Mike Tomlin but I would be shocked absolutely shocked if Mike Tomlin is not back next season coaching the Pittsburgh Steelers and Mike Garofalo actually just tweeted out in a team meeting today Mike Tomlin told Steelers players the speculation about him stepping away is unfounded and he plans on coaching the team in 2024.

So if you believe him there you go that should be enough. If you still think Tomlin's walking away then there's nothing I'm going to be able to say that will change your line of thinking. It is the Zach Gilp show on CBS Sports Radio. We'll take a time out. We will get into the demise of the Eagles next with Philadelphia Eagles legend Hugh Douglas will join us after these short messages. The Eagles go from being 10 and 1 to finishing 1 and 6 down the stretch. And as we enter the second round of the playoffs the Eagles they're no longer participating in the postseason.

After getting stomped out last night and embarrassed by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Let's welcome in a Philadelphia Eagles legend and that is Hugh Douglas who now does a great job hosting mid-days on Sports Radio 94 WIP. Hugh first off appreciate the time.

Thanks so much for doing this on a busy day. What's shaking. How are you. You know Zach you heard me when you when you said demise but then when you hit me with stomped out that that hurt even worse than demise. Yeah well that the Buccaneers bus last night they saw the Eagles lying down and they drove right over them and then backed it up. That was that was putrid. And that's my biggest problem with this Eagles team Hugh. They showed no heart.

They showed no fight. And I know it's very easy to throw out this term but it just felt like they quit. Oh Zach when you hit me with those words man it just as a former Philadelphia it hurts so bad to hear you say it.

But I have no argument for it man. You know I talk to a lot of my old teammates man and my phone was ringing off the hook last night with guys asking me because they know I'm here. What's going on with this football team and I had no answers for them.

So to hear you say it and just put it in reality man it just hurts so bad. But but I can't argue with that. There's a lot of reasons why you go from ten and one to finish in the season one and six. What's the one thing you being someone that played with so much passion and energy and toughness that when you look at both sides of the ball what's the one thing in particular that still just makes you mad with what transpired with this team down the stretch. Well it's it's was something underlying that was going on with this squad that that was never hashed out. And I said that weeks ago there's something going on with this squad that nobody's really talking about. Everybody's kind of talking over. You could even hear it in the messaging that the players had because nobody was on the same page. The one thing that you know when a team is in lockstep with one another from the head coach down to the players everybody has kind of the same messaging. You've heard that when guys coaches say one thing in a meeting and if you go ask the players the same day they will use some of the same words that the coaches use.

It's called ruin in the same direction. This team for whatever reason six weeks ago they weren't ruined in the same direction and they had these escape room events and all this other stuff trying to get it right and it never got right. Is it just as simple and you know Sirianni the last two years has done a really good job this year. He lost control of his locker room. Is it as simple as just to say OK this team lost Shane Steichen. I know that fans are really tough on Jonathan Ganon but they've lost both of their coordinators is that's what it just simply boils down to that this team couldn't survive the losses of those two guys.

You know what it's kind of hard to say. I like there's a camp here in Philadelphia that wants Nick Sirianni fired. I don't know how I feel about that. I know I know this business. I'm not a dummy. You know you look at what's going on potentially in Dallas and what they're talking about with Mike McCarthy and the guy that's won 12 games in a season for the last three seasons. I'm not a dummy.

I know how this works. But there was a disconnect somewhere between the quarterback and the coach that I don't know if the answer is to fire the coach. Now I know that the coordinators I don't think neither one of those guys are going to be here but I don't know if I'm sold on fire Nick Sirianni because he's done some pretty good things in the NFL. Like I said I'm not a dummy I know how this game works but you're basically hit if you fire Sirianni in this situation you're basically hitting the hard reset but I don't know if it's a hard reset because this core they have a lot of talent like I don't think talent is necessarily the issue obviously you could fine tune some things. I think it comes down to a leadership perspective and you know and that's that's basically what I'm talking about when you when I say a hard reset I'm saying if you get another coach in here he's he's going to implement his philosophy he's bringing in his people and then you have another year of resetting what you're watching what your your goals are like how you want to run your offense and things of that nature. That's why I'm like I'm not too sure if coach Sirianni is the my fire him is there. That's what I mean by hard reset. Gotcha.

Hugh Douglas here with us. The biggest reason why I would fire him is no matter if the players like him or not they quit on some capacity on the head coach this year even though they'll tell you they love the coach and I understand now right the my way or the highway approach doesn't work but there's a difference in being a player's coach and then being a doormat and it felt like this year especially the final six seven games Sirianni became a doormat for these players. Yeah there's no like like those words are just so strong I don't know but they're true you know this stuff drives me crazy today because it's one thing to be bad and not to reach where you're supposed to go it's another thing to just quit especially in that city you know that city quitting is not acceptable. You know what it is that what I like because I had I have a chance all the time to talk to a lot of these players and to a man when you look them in the face they will tell you that that they feel that they're a good football team and that they played hard and and that they believe in coach Sirianni but the proof in the pudding because we see it every week they go out on the field and they lay stinky turds and you look at it and you're wondering to yourself you're like how can you go out there week in and week out especially on the defensive side of the ball and make the same mistakes week in and week out. You had people running free in the secondary uncontested for weeks.

So I get exactly what you're saying. It's just that to your point when you hear you say that about the city of Philadelphia guys giving up it just doesn't matter that math is not math for me. It really is. The other thing too and this probably has to just make it crazy is defensive player being the great defensive player that Hugh Douglas was I've never seen tackling as bad as this. Listen when I when I tell you I've had former teammates of mine we were texting back and forth. We've been talking all day and they're they're so upset with what they were seeing on the field. It's ridiculous. I'm talking about from defensive lineman to secondary players. It's called want to a friend of mine coined that phrase a long time ago it's called want to and a lot of these guys did not want to tackle anybody yesterday.

I don't care how you want to talk about it and people talk about saving themselves and things of that nature. Nobody wants to make a tackle yesterday in a playoff game. It's ridiculous.

That was the only team that I saw yesterday that looked like the Philadelphia Eagles that is that looked like they really didn't want to be in the playoffs. That's ridiculous to me. It absolutely is. And the other thing too like right.

You have to do this each and every day. So you're going to say some positive things. You're going to say some negative things. But I don't know if there's two guys that love the Eagles more than Brian Dawkins and Brian Westbrook. And to see them be critical of this team that tells me everything I need to know about the 20 you know what's funny. I've been I've been texting with Brian Dawkins all day. And when I tell you as soon as I answer the text he's fired off another text talking about how disgusted he is with this team and how it would have been you know when you're when you get our age you have all this gray beer like that or you get to talk about is how it used to be back in my day and what we would have done if we were in the locker room. Unfortunately we're not.

And it's a different day at age. And to see this man it's just tough. Seth Joyner everybody that I talk to I grease guys that see this. This is not Eagles football. No question about it.

And not only that but you also continue to look at this. You see guys do things that are out of character that speaks to really the incompetence that happened behind the scenes like I've known a son Redick before anyone knew who son Redick was since since I attended Temple University. Devante Smith is one of the best teammates that there is as well to see both of those guys have blow ups on the sidelines at the coaching staff. You know I don't think anyone should be surprised with what happened in Tampa Bay when that was happening towards the end of the season.

Yeah. And you know what the funny thing is we were told for weeks that that this team was going to get it together. And unfortunately it did happen that way. And even I drink the Kool-Aid I believe you know being in Philadelphia being a part of this city for as long as I've been that they were going to find some way to turn it around. But unfortunately that was not the case.

And that's where we are. Like I don't know honestly if firing coach Sirianni is the answer but you make some very very valid points and like I said when we started this I know how this business works. And if the team is not responding to the coach then you have to take drastic measures. But there was also some rumblies about the quarterback and his his interactions with some of the guys on the sideline as well. So I don't know what the correct answer is. I think the best thing to do in this situation is let cooler heads prevail and give it a couple of days. But you know exactly unfortunate thing about all this. We've got a bunch of hot coaches out there and some coaches that everybody wants to get to get a conversation with and have an interview with.

So you can't wait too long before you decide to make a decision. Let me get to those coaches in just a second. But I want to circle back on what you said regarding Jalen hurts. I was blown away by his leadership last year by the times I was in that locker room.

You could tell that he was the heartbeat of this team. There were so many times this year he was just sitting there on the sidelines looking like he was sulking yet players yelling at him. What needs to change just with the leadership style of Jalen hurts in your opinion. You know what I think this is where it gets a little difficult for me because Jalen hurts had an interview yesterday where he talked about some about this wasn't our year and anything like that. Jalen hurts since he's been here and I wasn't here for the whole time when he first got here but I followed this team from afar and he always spoke about seizing the moment and taking advantage of the situation that was put in front of and to hear him talk like that yesterday and basically saying that it wasn't our time and it wasn't our moment anything like that. It made me feel it made me say that and hear that because here's a guy that when you look at his whole life his whole career. He's taken advantage of adversity that was given to him. You know, you talk about being in best in Alabama not crying about that and coming back and being the Brazilian player that he is with Oklahoma same thing got drafted second got paid $250 million. So when I hear him say stuff like that, it's just disheartening because it's one of those things where that has not been his mantra since I've known him to be a professional quarterback.

So, you know, he was always a guy that that kind of he was the aggressive he conceded yesterday when he said he said that it was one of those things where you know, we had crumbs or whatever whatever he said I'm paraphrasing here and that it wasn't our time. So to see him on the sideline, he doesn't need to be a rah-rah leader for me. He doesn't have to get in everybody's face and give new Rodney species or anything like that.

But you have to be more engaged. You have to look like you care. I know he cares.

I think he cares because he's been selling me that for the last couple years. I just think that's somewhere along the line. There was a disconnect and they need to figure it out. I think in this locker room right now there needs to be some hard conversations that need to be had obviously not and not going to be had because you know, everybody's doing exit interviews, but but moving forward there has to be some accountability in that locker room. Well, let me ask you this if you're saying right, we know Hertz is not going anywhere with the contract nor should he if you're saying you you're more leaning towards bringing back Sirianni outside of just addressing whatever problems going on in the locker room you playing the game you have in your experience knowing what it takes in this league. What would your biggest piece of advice and your biggest message to be also understanding this city to this Eagles core in this Eagles group that's still trying to go get a championship down the road accountability. That's the one thing that I feel was a staple when I play with the Philadelphia Eagles was that we had we held each other accountable and sometimes even with my friends today, you have to have hard conversation can't have a lot of yes, man around sometimes you have to be told the truth about yourself even if you don't want to hear and if that's the case that goes for coach Sirianni that goes for Jalen hurts and anybody else who's not rolling in the same direction that the Philadelphia Eagles want to roll with you have to have some hard conversations sometimes man. You have to take a look at yourself the man in the mirror and figure out how to get it done because if you're like all year long we talked about how this team felt like they were a team of destiny. I heard a quarterback said every week about how his whole mantra and his whole drive was to get back to the Super Bowl.

Well, if that's the case, then you should be able to have a conversation with somebody. Hey, if you're not doing it the right way or the right way that works best for us then if you're serious about making it to the Super Bowl, then you have that conversation you correct it simple as that. That's how I look at it. Let's say they do move on from Nick Sirianni. You got Belichick available Pete Carroll Mike Vrabel Jim Harbaugh. Who do you want to see to be the next head coach of this team?

You know, it's funny that you asked me this question. My partner Joe Jillio. He has his list of coaches already of the coaches that he wants and Coach Belichick is at the top like I like Coach Belichick. Coach Belichick was a coach when I was in New York Jets with the New York Jets for a small time.

I think he's a little bit older. No disrespect to the old old heads out there because I'm one of them no disrespect, but I think that it's important to have a coach that connects with your football team and has not so big of a generational gap. So I'm thinking I'm leaning more towards like a Mike Vrabel or Jim Harbaugh. I'm thinking Jim Jim is Jim is the tie at the top of my list. I don't know how Jim would work with Howie.

That's my one concern. Now Vrabel has had some concerns working with general managers I guess as well the last two years, but I think Vrabel would be the best fit for Philadelphia because I think he's the perfect mix of a guy that is considered a players coach right now, but he won't be a doormat like Sirianni and a hold that accountability in the locker room. Yeah, it's that's the thing that I think that we're looking at right now because it feels to me because you keep saying it that that coach Sirianni's his reputation around the league right now. It ain't the greatest.

No, it's not the greatest changes a lot in one year last year. He was on top of the world. Now. He's the biggest dope.

That's a long way to fall brother. I'm here to tell you but I would think with between the two and plus coach Vrabel is the guy that likes to run the football. I think if you want to help fix Jalen because that's what we're talking about now every every running a good running game is every quarterbacks best friend.

So with the skill set that Jalen has in the way that he's matured at the first half of the season. I'm willing to take a chance on coach Vrabel or coach Harbaugh by the way, Hugh, it doesn't take much for like it takes a lot actually for me to like rip a team like this, but it's a simple thing like there's just some certain things that are so obvious and I'm never going to pretend like I know how to call plays or anything like that, but their approach on offense this year how many times last night am I going to see a screen pass and then Hugh they get to third and two and they want to throw the ball 40 yards downfield. That's the time you should run the screen pass that that I watched the game most of the time not this year, but I watched the game from a defensive perspective. I like to watch the line play but I'm with you sometimes watching this offense play. I'm like what the hell are they doing? Like what what like the plays had no fluidity.

They didn't mesh very very well. And sometimes you would see like in the Giants game a couple weeks ago. They started a game that had two great one runs by Kenny game. Well, then they drop back and try to heed the ball 50 yards down the field. I didn't understand that but like I said, I'm not I'm not an offensive coordinator, but I know enough about offense to know that a lot of plays have to look similar in order to try to fool the defense because that's basically what we're talking about. Let's be real. You would be laughing as a defensive player. You'd be laughing going up against these this Eagles offense.

You'd be licking your chops. It's a little simplistic. I've heard stories of guys saying that that teams have come up to the line of scrimmage and they know that the Eagles formations and they call out the plays right before they run.

So yes, it's it was a little it was a little preschool. Now last thing I'll ask you Hugh Douglas when you take a look back at this season and you discuss AJ Brown, but what's the truth with him? We hear 9,000 things with AJ Brown.

What's AJ Brown's biggest gripe in your opinion? I would say he's misunderstood. So he's like it's easy because we've seen so many examples of diva receivers, mild-content receivers.

It's easy to try to lump them into that. I think he's a passionate player. I think that a lot of times he's misunderstood with his passion, but I'll take a receiver of that caliber anytime, you know, I play with Teo and historically though famously people think that me and Teo can't stand each other. Me and Teo are good. We are good, even though he misremembered this story in the locker room. That's fine with me.

Me and Teo are fine, man, but I will play with a guy like that any day. So you didn't kick his ass in the locker room? No, see, it didn't even happen. See, there you go. It didn't even happen like that.

It didn't even happen like that. Well, Hugh, I really appreciate you doing this. Nothing but love for you and your family. Thanks so much for doing this today. Much appreciated. Hey, no problem, man. Appreciate you. There you go.

The great Hugh Douglas. Excellent, excellent performance. On the Zach Gelb show on CBS Sports Radio will take a time out. We'll continue the biggest story of the day. Big decisions in Dallas. Big decisions in Philadelphia.

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And there's a good conversation going on right now in the chat. What's the most embarrassing loss from Wild Card Weekend? Is it the Browns just getting blown out by the Texans? Is it the Philadelphia Eagles just quitting and being embarrassing up against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers or is it the Dallas Cowboys letting a young phenom in his first ever playoff start and in his first true season as a starting quarterback in the NFL?

Jordan Love, come into your house, win the toss. And I find it funny that the Packers, they win the toss of the whole J. Alexander controversy from a few weeks ago and they take the ball and they just shove it down your throat and making that game pretty much over at halftime. I excuse the Browns because it was so improbable what they did this year, like whatever happened with the Browns in the playoffs was going to be gravy.

When you lose Nick Chubb, you lose the Sean Watson for the season. You knew eventually there was an expiration date on Elite Joe Flacco and you were all the offensive line injuries like I'll give the Browns a pass. The conversation really comes down to the Eagles of the Cowboys. And when I look at the Cowboys and you know how much I can't stand the Dallas Cowboys, I don't think their loss was as embarrassing as the Eagles because the Cowboys just had a team come into their house that had nothing to lose and they were just more aggressive than, than the, than the Dallas Cowboys and the Green Bay Packers. And that team just got pressure and they saw their shadow for the last two previous years and they were like, Oh, here it comes again. But I don't think it was a lack of effort or heart with the Cowboys. The Cowboys were embarrassing for a bunch of different ways. And quite frankly, they were overrated for most of this year. Like any cowboy fan that called me up and said, Oh, we have a great team. Oh, we're going to the Superbowl this year.

Yeah, I have a bridge to sell for you too. Well, we'll talk after the show, but with the Eagles, they were 10 and one, the Eagles were in a Superbowl last year. The Eagles were up by 10 against the Kansas city chiefs. And then the next year, yeah, you had changes at your offense, according to defensive coordinator, but the actual roster was pretty similar. You lost CJ Gardner Johnson.

You lost Javon Hargrave, but you still had your main pieces. Like Miles Sanders did nothing in Carolina this year because you didn't really need him. You know, I was the running back and Philly's more of a product of the offensive line and the system, but to see that team going into the Niners game, even with them not blowing out opponents, but they were 10 and one to see what transpired after that.

It's not a lack of talent. It's not that this team wasn't good enough. It's that there were so many problems and so many egos in the locker room and such a disconnect with the coaching staff and the coordinators that instead of fighting and finding a way to turn this season around after losing to the 49ers, not even losing the 49ers got emasculated by the 49ers. We should have known that there were big problems in Philadelphia the following week where you got emasculated again by the Dallas Cowboys. And then you allow a 92 yard drive to Drew Locke. You lose a game at the end of the season to the giants. You'll look like I picked the Cardinals to cover the 12 points, but I said, Eagles can't be a 12 point favorite against anybody. I didn't think the Cardinals were going to win the game outright.

You let Jonathan Gannon go into your house and say, bleep you to Philadelphia. That team just had no heart. Team had no guts.

Team was a bunch of quitters. And that's why to me, it's an effort issue. Like there's a lot of people that you work with or a lot of people that you encounter in life where they may not be successful. They may not do what you ask them to do and accomplish what they do. And I'm not saying, Hey, just live in a participation society where someone has effort and you hand them out a trophy.

But if you can't accomplish a goal, it better not be because you didn't try your best. And that's my problem with the Eagles. They quit, they tapped out, they booked their reservations probably for their vacation for this week because they knew their season was over. And that's what drives me nuts. It drives me nuts that this Eagles team in a tough city like that and a fan base that you may think they're crazy, but they just want accountability.

They just want their players to reach a certain standard. That team not only let the season get away in the final seven games, let it go right down the drain. They let it go right down the drain in a snap of a finger. I said earlier, it was a grotesque performance. It really was like, that was appalling to watch that game. You know, it was six minutes left in the fourth quarter was snowing in New York city at about a 10 minute walk home. I said to my buddy that had us over his house to watch the game.

And he made some bolognese with some great garlic bread and had some kale Caesar salad as well as I'm going to start to get going. I'm going to leave. There's six minutes left. This game's been over for about two hours. He's like, nope, got to sit there and watch the end of the games. I was like, all right, I'll sit there and watch the end of the game. That's a passionate Eagle fan that I know diehard Eagles fan. And he was negative from the start because he knew, he knew that this team was embarrassing, but you have fans that didn't quit on this team. They just told you the truth about this team, the Eagles players, they quit and that's pathetic, absolutely pathetic.

Now it's all eyes on Jerry's world and all eyes on Jeffrey Laurie in the city of brotherly love. And I thought it was hysterical last night, how they showed the Liberty bell on the 10 and one start and then boom down the stretch one and six, they come and you put the crack in the Liberty bell. Whoever thought of that at ESPN, you deserve a raise.

You may not have it. They may not have any more money at ESPN with how much they pay McAfee. I don't know if they have any, any more money to go around to give that person a raise, but a Geez, Louise, whoever thought of that idea, very brilliant, but now all eyes are on Jeffrey, Larry and Don Jerry Jones will either owner who both have a head coach in McCarthy that has had a lot of regular season success in Dallas. Sirianni three years, three playoff performances, a Superbowl trip, which owner is going to blink first.

And I think it's okay doing some behind the scenes digging. If we get rid of McCarthy, if we get rid of Sirianni, do we have a name lined up? And there's four attractive names out there. Belichick, Harbaugh, Carroll, Vrabel. Who are you going to actually get though?

But regardless if you know or not who you're going to get, and if you have it pretty much signed, sealed and delivered, it doesn't make sense to bring either back regardless. Cause for McCarthy, he's got to go because they lost in the wild card round. This was supposed to be the year that the Cowboys, right? I'm not saying Superbowl, but when you look at the field, it was like, Oh, they got actually got a chance to get to the NFC title game. And I always told you they were going to be the drama Dallas, choking Cowboys and they would bow out eventually and choke out. Eventually they even get to the second weekend, but for Philadelphia Superbowl aspirations, legitimate Superbowl aspirations, a 10 and one start after losing a Superbowl.

That's ridiculous. And you're out wild card weekend against Baker Mayfield, Todd Bowles and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Ooh, you got to get rid of the coach because I'll say it for the 9,000 time today. Sirianni is a doormat. So player's coach, but he's a doormat. You can be a player's coach, but not be a doormat.

Sirianni is a doormat and you got it. Vrabel would, I would say Vrabel should be the target in Philadelphia and for the Cowboys, Belichick. You say I get to make two hires, Cowboys, Belichick, Vrabel, Eagles. That's what needs to happen, but we'll see how it plays out. Well, Jeffrey Lurie had the guts to get rid of Nick Sirianni and we'll make McCarthy get loyalty from Jerry Jones. It's easy decision guys. We're waiting. Time's ticking away.