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One-year upgrade requires financing, qualifying, device and upgrading in good condition after six months with half paid off. Alrighty, rocking and rolling now, we're number two of our radio program. That's right, it is the Zach Gelb show, coast to coast on CBS Sports Radio. Let's get to two games from over the weekend in college football. So you had Florida State taking care of business against Clemson where they had to grind out the victory, come from behind. Once the game got into overtime, I felt good about Florida State and they ended up winning in overtime, but that was such a choke job by Clemson.

And it serves Dabo Sweeney right with the way that he's talked about NIL and also he's failed to embrace the transfer portal. And then in the night game, you did have Notre Dame going up against Ohio State. And that was a game where I thought Notre Dame was better. And I was very disappointed in Notre Dame where going into halftime that they were trailing. Yeah, they were trailing by three.

It felt like they should be up in the game. And when you don't capitalize early, when you look like you're the better team, that's not where you lose the game, but that's where it come back to bite you. Especially when it ended up being the differential of three points in that game. And when Ohio State gets the ball back, you know, in 90 seconds, a little under 90 seconds to go, you know, I got to give credit to Ohio State for getting the ball in the end zone. But, you know, Notre Dame dropped what was an easy interception and that should have been picked off.

And then you get down to third and goal at the one and they end up running the football there and they get in the end zone. It's just one of those games where if you're a Notre Dame fan and also if you're a Clemson fan, you walk out of the stadium, especially when you're both there at home and you're just sick to your stomach. Because when I watched the Notre Dame-Ohio State game, Notre Dame looked better. And even though I thought heading into the game, Notre Dame was the better team, doesn't always work out that way. But I don't feel like the better team won the game. And the same could be said when you look at Florida State Clemson. Sure, going into the game, I thought Florida State was the better team and Florida State should be undefeated and they should go to the college football playoff this year. But watching that game, Clemson looked like they were the better team and they were in control of the game. And at the end of the game, it's almost as if Dabo Swinney had a button and he was just like, I don't want to win the game.

Let me press it and let me do something stupid here. Like, well, what was that commercial, the Buffalo Wild Wings commercial where you would extend the game so you could stay at Buffalo Wild Wings? It's almost that's what like what Dabo Swinney was doing towards the end at regulation. You know, I don't get why he's calling a timeout when Florida State didn't know what they were doing. They looked like they were about to burn a timeout. And then I had no problem with them running the football with Will Shipley when you get the ball back. But you got to have two plays called there. And then they run out of time and the game goes into overtime or you could have used that timeout and maybe you change something. So that was just bizarre. And then you get into overtime and I know that Dabo Swinney threw the quarterback under the bus.

Oh, it's an option there. He has the option to pass. But third and one run the damn ball.

It's so simple, whether it's your quarterback or whether it's Will Shipley, you got to run the ball there. And instead, you know, they throw the pass and they don't get it and then on fourth and one, it's incomplete. So I look back at both Clemson's performance against Florida State and Notre Dame's performance against Ohio State. It felt like both teams that won should not have won the game.

And it's almost like you get into this conversation that, Hickey, who are you more disappointed in? Was it Clemson or was it Notre Dame? Because both of those teams looking like the better team just laid an egg in the final moments of regulation. I know for Clemson, it did carry on over into overtime. Yeah, I mean, two good start programs lose, frankly. I mean, Notre Dame lost to stupidity. Clemson lost a little bit on their own with recruiting. I mean, it's a 29-yard field goal. Clemson also lost because of stupidity, too. Hit the field goal. 29 yards, hit the field goal. We're not talking about this.

But you're not wrong. But how many times do we see college kickers mess things up and everyone says this is why you can't trust college kickers? Even when you allow the touchdown in overtime.

Third and one. I don't care if you give the quarterback, don't give the quarterback an option. Run the damn ball.

Like you have that hat. Run the ball. Run the damn ball.

Clemson needs to be wearing that hat. It was it was inconceivable to me after you get nine yards. That's the other part. You got nine yards with Shipley on the play prior and then you throw the ball. And I know Dabo want to take no accountability for that after the game. OK, but and I know right. You have an offense coordinator there making the play call.

But how the coaching staff gives the Kid Cade club that played a good game, the ability to throw on that play and even the option throw in that play makes no sense to me. And if you're a Notre Dame smart guy, you can count to 11, please. And honestly, that's embarrassing. That's an absolutely embarrassing to not have not just one, two plays to the biggest plays of your season and to the biggest plays of the game. You can't count to 10 or can't count to excuse me, 11.

Thank you. Come on. That's a time out. And you give Ohio State what is an easy touchdown because their office line is not very good.

And they made it tougher than it had to be. But it was a walk in touchdown. We have three offensive lineman against two stand up defenders. It was the easiest play called Ryan Day's life. It was easiest touchdown. Trip trainers ever going to score.

And that is flat out embarrassing, flat out embarrassing. And you look at Ryan Day. He out coach Marcus Freeman in the game. And I don't want to really praise Ryan Day that much because Notre Dame looked like the better team. But in those games, even when they're so close, it's a little things that determine it. And Ryan Day had the proper players on the field. You look at Marcus Freeman and I'm a big fan of Marcus Freeman.

You can't have that happen once, let alone twice in the game. And I don't know about you. I'm watching the game on Saturday night. I did an audible in the food, by the way.

You'll actually I think you'll be impressively here. I didn't end up getting Italian food, Hickey. I said I was going to get Italian food for Notre Dame, Ohio State. You've been to Henley's before, right? Yes, sir.

Wasn't that when your dad almost got into it with Mraz the other week? Right, local spot right in Bayshore. So, Buddy and I that were watching the game, we went there for takeout. We got the bourbon wings, which are delicious. Bonin, of course, with blue cheese. Tremendous blue cheese. And then we did the hot wings, too. And then we had cheesesteak quesadillas, which were phenomenal. Have you ever had the cheesesteak quesadillas there? No, no, sir.

You need to. A1. Phenomenal. So it was a great meal, watching the games, eating wings, stuff in my face. Got a little Rita's afterwards.

Got the gelati where you get the ice and the custard, the vanilla custard, too. So I'm in a good, fat mood, jolly, looking at that game, seeing, like, oh, Notre Dame's going to win. I didn't want to see Ohio State win the football game. And then once Notre Dame blows it and Ohio State takes advantage, like, no one watching that game live said, oh, Notre Dame only has 10 players on the field, like defense. Like, you just don't see that with the way that it's broadcasted on NBC.

But then I think it was Emmanuel Acho who put the tweet out and he goes, you guys aren't going to believe it. That final play of the game, Notre Dame only had 10 players on the field. And I'm sitting there, may had a few adult beverages, may have participated on the the Mad Dog Russo plan or a cousin of the Mad Dog Russo plan, if you know what I'm talking about. And I'm looking at my phone and I'm counting one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. And I'm like, wow, they only did it. I go, OK, Zach, it's been a long day. Count it again. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. That's inconceivable to me.

You're at home, at home. And you can't get your players on the field. You're just not going to go to the level that people started to believe you were going to go if you simply can't get 10 players or 11 players on the field. And I hate to say that's what determined the game because you go back in the first half, Notre Dame should have had a touchdown. They did and they had some some bad protection of the football.

But you add that on top of it in the aftermath of the game where that gets revealed. And it's even more salt in the wound of the Notre Dame fan. Because once again, Clemson and Notre Dame both should have an extra win.

They should they both should have got wins. And, you know, I want to see Florida State go to playoff. I love what Mike Norvell has done. And I'm a believer in him.

I picked him when the ACC before the start of the year. And sometimes, hey, great teams find a way to win when they don't play their best. They've done that the last two weeks in a row.

It's got to change because then you're playing with fire now. But if you are a Notre Dame fan, like if I asked the question, who's more sick to their stomach, is it Notre Dame or Clemson? I actually think it's a Notre Dame fan because at their best, I do believe for this year, Notre Dame is a better football team than Clemson. Like Clemson already had the week one loss to Duke. I know they could still get to the ACC championship game, things like that. Now with two losses, you don't expect them to be there. But to be in that spot where you're Notre Dame, you're going up against Ohio State, a team that has had the respect of so many college football fans the last decade or so. And you were the better team to keep on just tripping up over your own mistakes. That's just inexcusable. Like Clemson, this is what Clemson is. Even when they play well, they're just not a great football team this year because other teams are moving at a certain pace. And other teams are embracing NIL, they're embracing the transfer portal. And here you go, Dabo, Sweeney is just like, nope, I'm going to just make fun of it.

So that's the way that I would answer that question, Hickey. Notre Dame, Clemson, which fan base has the right to be more upset? I actually think it's a Notre Dame fan base compared to the Clemson fan base.

Without a doubt, it's Notre Dame. They've been ragged on for years of not winning the big game. You have Ohio State coming to your house.

Everyone's talking about how they can't get over the hump. And you outplayed Ohio State for 58 minutes and 30 seconds. Because that last minute and a half, Notre Dame had plenty of opportunities to win the game and they didn't. Dropped interception, even before that really.

Actually, I take that back. They outplayed Ohio State for 57 minutes. That last possession on offense was pathetic from Notre Dame in terms of they should have ran down the clock, they did not. They decided to run the ball, give Ohio State more time, save timeouts, which they needed on an intentional grinding call that would have, again, ran more time off the clock. And now instead of seven seconds with a chance at the one-yard line for two plays, Ohio State would have had no seconds with a chance on the one-yard line to win the game. Notre Dame had multiple opportunities to win. Once you got the fourth down stop and Ryan Day did not trust his offensive line, deep in Notre Dame territory, he ran an end-to-round because he knew he could not run the ball straight up the middle and get one yard because his offensive line is not very good in this game. That should have been ballgame right there. Even if you don't get enough first downs to run out the clock, you still at least drain all Ohio State's timeouts, drain the clock down as much as you can, catch an interception, put 11 guys on the field.

There are, I mean, right there, four or five instances. If Notre Dame just did one thing different, they win a game in which, again, a lot of people for years have said they will not win. And also, it was almost like the moment, even though they looked like the better team, the moment was too big for them early. Like if you're Notre Dame, you got to say bleep it, we got nothing to lose in this game.

You got to be aggressive. And like the rotation of the running backs, I know it's tough to kill them when you go for 176 yards, but in that first half it felt like they barely used Audrick Estime. And then later on in the game, I know he finishes with the most carries and the most rushing yards, 14 carries for 70 yards, but I was surprised how they went away from Estime early. And also, you have a new quarterback in Sam Hartman, can you go be a little bit more aggressive with him? Like Sam Hartman is a seasoned quarterback.

He was at Lake Forest for a bunch of years. I was just, I was surprised that Notre Dame failed to be a tad more aggressive. And it was almost when in early on in the game when they were showing they were better, but they couldn't cap off the drives, they almost just panicked.

And they didn't know how to respond to the adversity. And that's the frustrating part because Clemson, Florida State, Clemson just puked in the final minute of the game. And then they puked on that third down of overtime. It was like it was like two or three plays that they just vomited. But for Notre Dame, it's like all throughout the game, you were getting shown the path to victory. And anytime it looked like you were about to walk over the finish line and show that you were the better team, you just did things that quite frankly made no sense.

And were really, it was infuriating and tough to watch. And they gave away a game they should have won. Gave it away because Ohio State, again, did not look very impressive whatsoever for all the struggles Notre Dame had through the first three cores of that game. Ohio State had equally as bad struggles, had it in your building, in your hand, that win and gave it away. What did you make of their, the way that they used Estime in the game?

I mean, honestly, I had no problem with it, to be honest. They ran them late. Again, my biggest problem is the last drive of the game. Run the ball more, especially in the fourth quarter. Their two best drives of the game in the fourth quarter, they ran the ball. Because they were dead Ohio State's front. That offense line really started to get momentum going forward.

Ride that out. Again, even if you don't ride it out in the sense that you get enough first downs to drain the clock and win the game, ride it out to where you are not even risking an incompletion and giving Ohio State any sort of life and that's exactly what they did. So, for me, I have more issues running, or not running the ball on second down and throwing a screen pass than I do really even in their play call in the first half.

And on that five play drive that took up two minutes and forty-six seconds before giving the ball back to Ohio State where they get the touchdown to win the game and only got you sixteen yards. First and ten at your eleven. Hartman completes a pass for twelve yards.

Okay. First and ten at the twenty-three. You run for eleven with Esteemay. Then after that, you run with Hartman on first and ten. You pass with Hartman on second and fifteen because you lost five on the Hartman run. Then on third and fifteen you'll get three yards and then on fourth and twelve you have the false start penalty and then you end up punting on a fourth and seventeen at your own twenty-seven. They just did things that were stupid with two twenty-eight left in the game. How you have the pass with Hartman and then you run the ball with Esteemay and then it's like after that you run the ball. If you're going to run the ball there, run the ball with Esteemay. Don't run the ball with Hartman. So, man, just frustrating. There's no other way about it. All right. We'll take a break. Zach Yelp shows CBS Sports Radio.

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Hi, how are we doing? It is the Zach Gelb show on CBS Sports Radio on this Tuesday. Let's go out to the guest line right now. Welcome in a former NFL wide receiver is now the lead NFL analyst at Vison and also attended college at Colorado.

And I'm sure he's a big fan of what Coach Prime is doing right now. And that is Mike Pritchard. Mike, appreciate the time. Good to see you. How are you? I'm great, Zach. Great to be with you. How are you?

I'm doing fantastic. I know it was a rough one for Colorado on Saturday, to say the least. Just when you were watching that game and the reaction afterwards, what really stood out to you from Colorado's performance up against Oregon?

I mean, the lead in to right. We got to televise the locker room of Oregon. That was fascinating.

No, it's the prime effect. You know, we're looking at the overnights. We're looking at some of the ratings and Colorado's on top. And I just talked to some officials in Colorado yesterday in terms of their social imprint and certainly their viewership that they're enjoying right now. It's outstanding.

It really is. But I think the reaction is to Deion Sanders. The reaction is to the celebrity of Deion Sanders. The reaction is to the attention that Deion Sanders is garnering for his student athletes. And there's nothing wrong with that. I mean, Deion is trying to build a program and they went up against a well-established program and a program in Oregon that has national championship aspirations.

And certainly, Deion is trying to build a foundation for CU. So I was not happy with the outcome. That's for sure. I thought the bus would move the ball a little bit and get into the end zone more than they did. And so it was disappointing that way. But all in all, you know, Oregon's a really, really good football team.

Well, it's funny to me the wave of emotions. And I've always been someone that has said, I want to see Coach Prime get a big time job. I was saying he should have got the Auburn job last offseason. So he winds up at Colorado. People say, oh, if he wins two, three games this year after the team had one win from a year ago, he would be lucky. And he starts off the year 3-0. And then they finally looked the way that most people thought they would look before the year.

And now it's up. See, Coach Prime, he's no good. This is going to be a disaster at Colorado. It's like when you're winning, all right, everyone's praising you. You lose one game and now it's, all right, this is going to be a disaster, which that's the farthest thing from the truth.

Right, right. I mean, sometimes expectations get out of whack, right? And the start for Colorado has been phenomenal. Nobody could have predicted Coach Prime and his success to 3-0 start.

Shidoor Sanders playing into a spotlight into which, okay, he's being mentioned for the Heisman. But attrition takes over, right? Injuries happen and then teams kind of figure you out later on in the year and you get into a highly competitive Pac-12 situation.

And then you truly find out what you have. You know, there's an element of surprise in college football in a non-conference in the beginning of the year. But once teams look at you on film and they kind of figure you out and certainly understand your tendencies, what else do you got? And so that's what we're about to find out with Coach Prime and his coaching staff and these players right now.

What else do they have? Can they run the football? Can they protect the quarterback? Can they play defense and stop the run? I mean, we're about to find that out quick, fast, and in a hurry, which is exciting as well for Colorado football. I think Oregon is a more well-rounded team compared to USC. We know Oregon can play defense.

We've not really seen that going back to last year with the Trojans. So I think Colorado is going to be able to move the ball in this game. But what response do you think we'll see Colorado going up against the Trojans back in Boulder this weekend?

Yeah, I mean, I think Coach Prime will have them fired up. We didn't hear a lot from Colorado this week, right? We heard a lot going into TCU. We heard a lot going into Nebraska. We heard a lot and saw a lot going into CSU. But didn't hear a lot about going into Oregon because they're all over YouTube and everybody knows. And that's been spectacular, the following that they've been able to create. So I'm wondering if we're going to start hearing a lot or they're going to keep quiet and see what happens. But I think the spotlight has been shining on this football team and they embrace it.

So they're more comfortable that way. I want to continue to see a lot from this team and I think they'll respond. It's a tough place to play. There's phenomenal athletes.

I think Chidor will play better. It's his first taste of Pac-12 football. I mean, really, really big time competitive football where a team knows you, right?

And or they're familiar with you. So we'll see if they can evolve. And I think Chidor is good enough to evolve and Sean Lewis, offense coordinator for Colorado, is good enough to evolve.

And if they can do that and move the ball, then this can be a competitive matchup for sure. When we go back to the Oregon pregame speech with Dan Lanning, I didn't have a problem with it. He's speaking to his team. The moment gets broadcasted, right?

Those things are going to happen. But how did you kind of process it, Mike Pritchard? Well, you know, Zach, I mean, I'm not mad at it. One of the things on our way to winning a national championship, we played Notre Dame twice back to back years. The first year we went, we were undefeated and Sal Onese had passed, our quarterback. And Lou Holtz, who was the head coach of Notre Dame at the time, was caught on a mic saying that we're living a lie.

Like we're riding a motion more so than we're a good football team. Now, Notre Dame ended up beating us that year. That was my junior year. But the next year, when we faced Notre Dame, we remembered that. In fact, we played that recording and everybody would remember that. So we kind of used that as motivation. We were able to win and beat Notre Dame that year for the national title.

So I think what Landing did was okay. But I also think Colorado is going to file that away. Because that's always, that's going to be ever living. That's going to live forever.

And so I know it was the moment and I know he was caught up in the moment. But just remember, come around next year or the year after that, who knows what the schedule is going to be like. Maybe Colorado uses that. Who knows? It's out there forever. Maybe another team uses it, Zach.

Who knows? But it was a bit arrogant. But also they backed it up.

So you can't fault them for that. Mike Pritchard here with us. Let's get to some NFL topics. I'll start you off with the team that you first played your career with. The Atlanta Falcons coming off a loss.

But they are 2-1. I think there's a lot of talent on this team. But we're all starting to wonder, can Desmond Ritter be good enough for this team to go make the playoffs this year? And win a division that it's going to be up and down and a bunch of waves you're going to have to ride with the four teams in the NFC South.

Right, right. And can Arthur Smith figure out the talent level, right? I mean, they got talent all over the field right now. And it doesn't seem like they are clicking all cylinders, right? And could it go on the quarterback?

Could it go on Ritter? I mean, a lot of it could. I mean, you're hearing Heineke stuff. And I don't know if that's the case or not. But the substance is there. I mean, Atlanta's got a great offensive line.

I believe that's going to travel well. It's just, can they put it all together and can it be consistent? They got a lot of young players. And that's what we see in the National Football League even today. When teams get upset or teams aren't playing well, it's because they're not consistent yet. So, it's at the point of the season going into week four where you think the consistency will show up.

And you really try to find out what type of team you have. And the same thing with Jacksonville, too. I mean, they're a very, very talented team.

But can they put it together and can it be consistent? And the teams that are able to do that, those are the teams that I look for from a betting standpoint. And certainly a team that looks to get hot in a rhythm and compete for the playoffs as well. I know that there's so many things that change from week in and week out with the NFL. And I talked to one Lions player after the game. And he's like, I was surprised that they barely ran the ball with Bijan Robinson and Tyler Algier. For those two guys, I know they were down for most of the game, but it was within reach for a little bit.

It was 13-3 for a while. For those guys to only get a combined 17 carries, it's like, okay, now you're playing away from your strengths. Which are the two running backs on the offensive side of the ball? Right, Zach, I mean, it's a great point. And that's the dilemma that Arthur Smith has as a play caller.

You know, do I feature the run? Which I know I can. And I'm used to. I mean, think about Tennessee days, Tennessee Titans days. But then also got Pitts, who I don't believe he's 100% yet, watching him play.

And then I have London. And then, you know, I need to find out what my quarterback's capable of because I can't run my way to the playoffs. We have to be dynamic. We have to develop a passing game. And, you know, that's in the back of the mind or certainly the thought process of a head coach. And you've got to develop something in terms of a passing game. You can't just run the football back like we did, you know, way back in the day. And, OK, listen, we're going to get to the playoffs that way. So I see the dilemma. But in this division, you may be able to.

You might be. Any other division, sure. This division, you've only got to get to eight or nine wins, I think.

That's true. I mean, they want seven. They want seven, right? I mean, can they get can they flip it and go ten and seven this year, which I think they can.

I think they can go from worst to first, which is easy to do when you win seven games last year. But, yeah, yeah, just figuring it out, kind of like Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh's starting to figure it out as well. They they want to run the football. They want to be physical. But they also want to let picket throw the football down the yard because they got some really good talent players out there.

All right. Last thing I'll bring up to you, Mike Pritchard, lead NFL analyst at Vison, former NFL wide receiver at the Falcons Bronco Seahawks, played his college ball at Colorado. The Broncos are worse this year than they were last year.

And I never thought I'd be saying that into a microphone. And I had no expectations for this Broncos team. But, man, they've been brutal this year.

Zach, I used to cover the Broncos when I was in Denver for one or four, three to fan. And at that time, certainly we thought they hit rock bottom, you know, firing coach after coach. And we thought they finally hit rock bottom years ago. But they keep finding a way, you know, it's the opposite of breaking through the ceiling. Great new ways to lose. Yeah, right.

They keep crashing through floors and it's like, OK, what are they going to hit bottom? And I don't know if 70 points means that you hit rock bottom. We'll see. But that team quit that team. They feel like they're a bunch of losers. And that's sad to say. I mean, Russell's playing better, but yet the team around him and the team that they have right now, they have zero confidence.

And again, that's that's embarrassing. And they don't have a lot of talent on offense. And going into the year, we talked about how great that secondary should be. This defense, Mike, has been atrocious. Yeah. Yeah.

You know what, Zach? I mean, they spend a lot of money in free agency, though, on that offense. I mean, you think about McGlinchey, you think about some of the other players they acquired through free agency. And I think the Broncos actually felt like they drafted well defensively and let some pretty, pretty good players go to.

But yet, no, the fabric is just not there. They got a new ownership group, which will hopefully help. I mean, the messages, strong messages from the top.

They transcend. You know, Pat Bolen, when he was there for so many years, he he had more playoff appearances than losing seasons. Right. I mean, that guy was phenomenal because the message was so strong from the top. And that's why the Broncos were so successful. But the Broncos clearly lost their way.

I don't I don't know how they find it, especially without confidence. Do you have any confidence in this coach? I know Sean Payton won a Super Bowl.

Right. He's looking like he's well on his way to the Hall of Fame. But he ran his mouth this offseason, bringing up Nathaniel Hackett, taking shots.

And to be this bad, you know, a lot of heat is going to be directed his way, even only three games in. Yes, Zach, the analyst, Sean Payton, forgot the fact that he had the analyst hat still on. He should have had his coach's hat on and not say those kind of things, because as a coach, you know, you have a lot of work to do. You have to turn over that roster.

You have to earn credibility with that roster. And he hasn't done that. And he was popping off at the mouth, like you said. But he was doing that as an analyst because for a whole year he was an analyst.

And, you know, we tend to kind of get trapped that way sometimes. Not me, because I'm not a coach. I don't have to worry about that. But he has to back it up. And certainly he has to earn credibility right now before the Broncos have any level of success. Would you want to remove the analyst hat and maybe join Coach Prime on his staff somewhere? That's been the big topic of conversation any time you get a former player on that has Colorado ties. Yeah, yeah.

Or Miami ties, right? I mean, no, I've entertained coaching before. And it takes a special person, a special talent. And that's why I have so much respect for coaches. They really put the time in to kind of develop kids, in this case, in college.

And, you know, I commend them for that. I don't have the patience for it. And I certainly don't have the time. You know, I find other things that pique my interest a little bit more. But I'd rather be an analyst and be fair about everything. But certainly respect, the high respect level for coaches out there, though.

Yeah, you keep the app in with Visa. It's a much easier lifestyle, Mike. I appreciate you joining us. Thanks so much, Mike. Zach, my pleasure. Thanks for having me. There you go.

Mike Pritchard, lead NFL analyst for Visa, former NFL wide receiver, also played his college ball at Colorado. We will take a break. When we come on back, we'll update you on some of the biggest stories in the world of sports with some audio with the News Brief.

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They are 1-2 and should win their next two games to get to 3-2. But Joe Burrow says the risk of going 0-3 was greater than the risk of injuring his calf further. That's why he played. There is risk to go out there and potentially re-injure it, but there's also a risk to go out there and be 0-3. So I wanted to be out there for my guys and I was confident that I would be able to do what I needed to to get the win. So you know if you leave it in the hands of the player, he's going to play.

But when you hear that from your leader, I do think that's inspiring. And he lays out a great point, like yeah sure there's a risk that I could further injure my calf. But he knows if he doesn't play, there's no way they win that game. Now I know the Colts won this weekend with Anthony Richardson out and you put in Gardner Minshew.

Things like that happen where a backup quarterback comes in and plays well. But Joe Burrow is that team. I'm not saying there's not other good pieces on that team. Hendrickson is a stud on the defensive line. Luanna Rumos is a phenomenal defensive coordinator.

Jamar Chase is a great wide receiver. There's a lot of studs on that team. But with that number 9, there's just no hope in that organization. And you know if you don't have 9 on the field, they were going 0-3. And then I know they survived last year when we were going 0-2 and they got to the AFC Championship game.

But it would feel totally different than where it was last year. You go to 0-3, there's just no hope in a loaded AFC that you're going to be able to turn it around. Especially when you look at so far, everyone in your division is 2-1. And the only other winless team is the Broncos. So you sit there at 0-3 with everyone else having at least one game.

Yeah, that's an impossible hole to dig out of. Alrighty, let's get to Zach Taylor on the decision of letting Joe Burrow play on Monday night. You just never fully know.

And you just want honest responses from him, which he gave. And you talk to the doctors and everyone gets on the same page and feels good about it. And he goes out there and delivers a performance like he did. Do you really think it was as much of a game time decision as they made it out to be? Yes and no in the sense that I think they knew as long as a major setback doesn't happen in warm-ups, he's playing.

But I think it's also like, hey, let's just triple check to make sure nothing bad happens. So what didn't add up to me was on Thursday I think of last week, it may have been Friday. You had that video surface of Mike Brown scooping up Joe Burrow on the practice field, taking him for a ride in his golf cart, talking for like a minute or two and then dropping him back off on the practice field. So he was practicing and he even went through the walkthrough on Saturday. But then on Sunday, you wake up and you see that tweet and Jonathan Jones is saying there's a chance from CBS that he could go on the IR. So to me, it was almost like one of those situations where, well, was it just gamesmanship in terms of you were never going to play him and now he's going to go on IR and someone said something publicly that they weren't or privately to a source that they shouldn't have? Or was it gamesmanship in trying to just float it out there that he may go to the IR where the Rams further think, all right, he's not going to play in the game?

I was I was so mind-bleeped by all the reporting on Sunday, but looking back at it, clearly he was always going to play in the game, barring going out there on the field to warm ups and further injuring that calf. Let's go to Sean McVeigh saying the Rams beat themselves last night. There was opportunities early on, you know, that we just weren't able to capitalize on, whether it was red zone possessions, you know, you get some good momentum early on in that game and you realize just the margin for error. The two turnovers obviously really hurt us really.

Unfortunately, the communication error and then we're kind of just laid over the middle. They end up making a nice play. And then after we hit the 46 yarder, you know, you're in good positive momentum. We had that blitz picked up that they were, you know, we were sliding to that and he ended up kind of just stopping and being able to get a tip.

And, you know, those are just some tough things. Yeah, I know it hasn't been a disastrous start for the Rams. They're one and two, right? They had the big victory week one up against the Seahawks. Then you get the 49ers and the Bengals.

It's a bad two games that you have to play. Like, let's see what they do up against the Colts. But then after that, they have the Philadelphia Eagles. It just further shows you, Hickey, with the talent deficiencies that the Rams have. And McVeigh's a good coach. Stafford's a good quarterback. We know that. Right, look what they're doing right now with Puka Nakua.

And you still have Aaron Donald being Aaron Donald, but Cooper Cupp isn't playing. It just shows you how perfect they need to be to win games. Like, they'll be competitive in terms of they'll be in a lot of games. It's going to take a good amount to knock them off. I don't think this team's going to win a bunch of games this year.

But they almost have to be, like, perfect. And those little mistakes that McVeigh's talking about is what's going to catch up when you just have a team that, when you look at it from 1 to 53, is not a really talented roster. Especially with one of the best wide receivers in the NFL and not right now in the field. Now I see one more game until Cooper Cupp, we believe, returns.

So that should help at least mask some of those errors. But you're right, you can't block a front like they could not yesterday. You have no chance. Let's go to Nick Sirianni. He is proud of the Eagles winning the Battle of the Trenches on Monday Night Football. Eagles beat up on the Bucks. I thought we played a really good game on the O-line, D-line. Being physical against a physical group. That's a good defense.

That's a good offensive line. And so I just felt like we came away just really playing our game. And we want to be, you know, toughing together. And we definitely, you know, part of toughness is being physical.

And that was what I felt like really stood out to this game. All right, let's go to Todd Bowles. Todd Bowles doesn't come across to me as a great motivational speaker. Especially remembering a lot of his press conferences in New York.

He has a fine education, though, being a Temple Owl. So I do have a soft spot for Todd Bowles. But his team was 2-0.

Now they're 2-1. Let's hear Todd Bowles and the message to his team after the loss. It was a hard-fought game. We own it.

You know, we own it. They stayed in third and short. They got first downs and some good first downs. We didn't play a good ball game.

They were partly a lot to do with that. So I'm not playing a good ball game. We can't mope about it. We got to get ready for New Orleans. We got to get nursed up and get the injured guys healthy. And we got the division game this week.

You know what that was? That was a get-right game for the entire NFC South. And when you say, oh, what do you mean a get-right game? You're like, Zach, a get-right game usually means you end up winning.

No, no, no. The way that we thought about the NFC South before the start of this year is now back to being where it's in the right line of thinking. I know the Panthers stink, but those other three teams, they were all 2-0 in the Bucks, the Saints, and the Falcons. Falcons get crushed by the Lions this weekend. The Bucks get crushed by the Eagles and then the Saints.

You know, we haven't talked about this one yet. How about, and I know it was out yesterday, but the Saints, what the Packers did last week to Atlanta, where you're up and then you choked, where Atlanta scored 13 points in the fourth quarter, that's what the Packers ended up doing to the Saints, where it was 18-0 or 17-0, excuse me, the game's over. You go in the fourth quarter, and you outscored them 18-0 in that fourth quarter.

And I'll give a lot of credit to Jordan Love. With all the people that they're missing, he has the rushing touchdown, and then he had the passing touchdown. I know it was a great catch by Romeo Dobbs, but you look at that loss for the Saints, it just further shows you, I know now Carr's dealing with the injury, we'll see if he plays this week, but it further shows you that that Saints team, if you started to buy them, I like the way they played the first two weeks, you just see that they're a fraudulent football team with that fourth quarter performance.

You're 100% right. That was, I mean, pathetic. Even though you lose Derek Carr still, you're up 17, you have three scores in the fourth quarter, it's the biggest fourth quarter comeback in Packers history.

They've been around since the world was created. Come on, finish the game. And Dennis Allen, by the way, defensive mind, finish the game. That was crazy. 18 unanswered. And no one scored the third!

That's remarkable. Let's go to Aaron Rodgers, the Jets have to rally around each other, this on the Pat McAfee Show. You know, there's been, I think, too many little side conversations and we just need to grow up a little bit on offense and lock in and do our jobs, everybody, and not point fingers at each other, and that's everybody, you know? We don't point fingers at the coaching staff, don't point fingers at each other.

Just get back to work and get the job done. Well, you do got to, like, point fingers a little bit behind the scenes, I think, to get an honest assessment, but you can't be pointing fingers publicly. And you saw Garrett Wilson have a blow-up on the sideline with Zach Wilson, then Michael Carter, the running backs going after the running backs coach. It's got to be so tough to be a Jets player because you finally had hope, you finally had optimism, and everyone knows Zach Wilson isn't the guy. But you get Aaron Rodgers, he's supposed to be in the side, and then he has the torn Achilles. Like, I think that's the most difficult locker room to be in right now, and trust me, the Bears are a mess. You got a bunch of just bad locker rooms to be in right now, but if you're the Jets, you had the actual hope of being a great team and the belief of being a great team, and it all went right out the window four plays into the season because the quarterback tore his Achilles, unfortunately. That's got to be brutal mentally as a player. And especially when you're getting, like you said, a line of BS that no one actually believes that Zach's the guy and Zach gives you the best chance to win, and you keep banging your head against the wall of, you saw it before even this year, and now all of a sudden now you've seen it again. Unfortunately, he just can't play, and you're getting told over and over and over again, hey, this is our best option, guys.

We got this, and nowhere close. Let's go to Joe Namath. He was on ESPN Radio New York. He was asked if he saw any positives from Zach Wilson on Sunday. You know what?

No, I didn't take anything positive out of it yesterday. It was awful. You sit down? You sit down on the play?

You go right down? What happened? I thought you were trying to win and make plays. You quit on a play? What is going on? It's disgusting. You go down?

You go down? Ooh, look at Joe Namath showing a little fire right there, but he's 100% right. Zach Wilson has no awareness. He just does not see the field at all. He's brutal. You know, maybe they should start putting some very attractive older women out there, maybe start seeing the field, but up until this point, Hickey, you know, he has a great receiver in Garrett Wilson.

How many times are you going to miss him? Just get it open on Sunday in the ballgame. It's inexcusable.

The best receiver Zach Wilson has is the guy sitting in the third row, because I have never seen a quarterback throw the ball away more than Zach Wilson has, and again, if you're in the first rows at a Jets Stadium or any game where you're facing Zach Wilson, bring your gloves. You're going to get a ball. Did you see the old guy that's going nuts, the older gentleman, and his teeth fell out while he was yelling?

All-time video. Yes, that is tough. Let's hear one more from Joe Willie. He's asked what the Jets could do to help Zach Wilson improve. Send him to Kansas City to back up against somebody like my home, maybe he'll learn something. I wouldn't keep him. I've seen enough of Zach Wilson, all right?

I've seen enough. Has quick feet, can throw a little bit, but I don't believe what's going on up there. Great answer, and finally, it's got so nasty and so ridiculous in the aftermath of the Oregon-Colorado game, I had no problem with Coach Prime, I had no problem with Dan Lanning. Dan Lanning says Deion Sanders has been great for college football. I'm also grateful and can clearly acknowledge that the attention that we got this Saturday, in large part, was due to Deion and what he's doing to college football. And if anybody can't see what he's done for college football and how he's bringing excitement to college football, you're crazy.

I said that last week as well. He's done a lot for the game. My big college football guy moment of the week was Dan Lanning screaming before the game, play with your helmet!

Play with your helmet! I thought that was funny. All right, he's at Kelchow CBS Sports Radio. The legendary Marty Smith from ESPN is gonna join us on the other side. Three college football takes also coming up 25 minutes from now.

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