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Digging Into Bills Drama (Hour 2)

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June 19, 2023 8:41 pm

Digging Into Bills Drama (Hour 2)

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June 19, 2023 8:41 pm

Stefon Diggs wants more say in play calling l David Freese rejects Cardinals fans voting him into the hall of fame l Draymond Green odds for his next team

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$10 minimum per order. Additional terms apply. All right, he's at Guildshow CBS Sports Radio, our number two of our radio program. So this Stefan Diggs story still makes no sense to me because I just don't know what is true and what is false. We know that he was there getting medical exams taken care of on Monday last week, which is just routine, right?

You got to go get your physical done, all those things, medicals before you get ready to start the next year. And then on that Tuesday, he was in the building meeting with Sean McDermott, Brandon Bean, supposed to go to mandatory minicamp practice, doesn't end up going to the practice. We don't know if he stormed out, told him he wants to go to the practice or if they just told him, we don't want to deal with you anymore. You're being so ridiculous.

Just go home. All we know Tuesday that afternoon was Sean McDermott gets up to the podium shortly after it is reported that he's not there. And he goes, he's very concerned. And then the next day it was, let's all walk it back.

Stefan Diggs shows up to practice. His agent says he was there throughout the entire time. Sean McDermott goes, oh, this thing has been blown out of portion, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then that Wednesday, the final day of that mandatory minicamp was canceled. So it wasn't as if it was canceled because of the distractions. A lot of teams, they cancel their final day of a day of mandatory minicamp and you go home and you get set and then see in a few weeks for, for training camp. Now, just cause the bills saying there's nothing to see here and everything's fine, doesn't mean that's actually what is reality.

Cause here's the part that I still don't get. Josh Allen said that it was something non-football related. And then Sean McDermott said that it was pretty much about targets when he tried to clarify and Stefan Diggs role in the offense when he tried to do the redo of the press conference.

So what is it? And maybe there's multiple issues here. Maybe there's something going on between Josh Allen and Stefan Diggs. And then there's something going on between Stefan Diggs, Brandon Bean.

And then in addition to that, the head football coach and Sean McDermott. So we're all trying to dig and we're all trying to hope that someone spills the beans. Now, I don't know who said this to Ben Volin, but Ben Volin who covers the NFL, he had a report over the weekend that Diggs' frustration is with his role in the offense and his voice and play calling per a league source close to the Bill's locker room. And if that's the case, I'm not saying that Stefan Diggs' heart is in the wrong place cause the guy wants to win and yes, he could have been utilized a lot better, especially in the playoffs. But at this point, what is going to get accomplished?

And why wasn't this stuff smoothed over before you got to mandatory minicamp? So I don't know, and I'll question how good the communication is with Stefan Diggs and the Buffalo Bills right now. And this is going to be something that is going to be, I don't want to make it too dramatic, but it does feel like this is going to be an ambiguous dark cloud that is hanging over the locker room where it could have a big storm or maybe the storm will move away, the cloud will move away and there won't be a lot of thunderstorms with a bunch of lightning as well. But if this is over him wanting to have more input on the offense and he wants to have more of a voice in play calling, Hickey, I know we've had disgruntled wide receivers before, but I've never heard of a wide receiver having a strong voice in play calling.

That's where the quarterback usually, if it's any player and the only player is quarterback and the offensive coordinator and the head coach to figure out. So is this going to take like Josh Allen going to Ken Dorsey? Because remember, Sean McDermott, he's a defensive minded coach, but is this going to take Josh Allen going to Ken Dorsey and saying, when we have some of our meetings, assuming if they have those, where the quarterback meets with the offense coordinator to figure out the game plan, let's include Stefan Diggs. But then the moment where Stefan Diggs doesn't like something that he's hearing, is he going to storm out again? That's, to me, something that I think is going to be a problem for Buffalo, where they may try to force feed Stefan Diggs to start the season to have this brush over.

But if there's a game where he's not happy with his targets, is it going to be this reaction that we saw happen last week reiterate itself? And if that's the case, Stefan Diggs, who says he wants to win, and Stefan Diggs, who's clearly annoyed that the Bills haven't got over the hump, I need them all in. And if I'm the Buffalo Bills right now, if I'm a Bills fan, I am concerned, even though it's only June right now, because this is a huge year for Buffalo.

They've been really close. Last year was Super Bowl or bus, and they failed miserably, getting embarrassed at home against the Cincinnati Bengals in the divisional rounds of the playoffs. If you look at this, if you can't find a way to right the wrong from last year, and you don't have everyone all in, especially the player, say what you want about Stefan Diggs, dude's a great player. And the Bills need him because that locker room and the wide receiving room is not particularly strong outside of Gabe Davidson's Stefan Diggs.

But if you don't have Diggs all in, and let's say this gets to a point where he freaks out, and then you got to suspend him because he quits on the teammate and goes down this road, then you got a huge problem because this isn't the AFC East for the last 20 years where you knew if you were the best team, you would just win. You have a lot of good teams now in the AFC East. Buffalo's really damn good. The Dolphins, if Tua could stay healthy, have a ton of talent. The Jets just got Aaron Rodgers.

The Patriots, even though I'm not a big believer in my football team, they still have Bill Belichick. And if you lose Stefan Diggs for a game or two, or if in the middle of the season it gets so bad where it's like, okay, we need to get him away from the team. The Bills needs Stefan Diggs at his best if Buffalo wants to accomplish not only winning the AFC East again, but going on to dethrone Kansas City in the postseason or Cincinnati in the postseason.

Because this is a loaded AFC East, and it is an even more so dominant AFC. When you look at the conference and you need outside of Josh Allen, your best offensive players Stefan Diggs to be all in and Hickey, I can't tell you right now that I have a lot of confidence, even though I think his heart is in the right place, that Stefan Diggs is going to be able to get through this season without a hiccup. And that's why I think there's an immense amount of pressure now on really Sean McDermott, more than anyone else, because you've got to get Stefan Diggs in order because you're right. There's no wide receiver in the league that has a say in play calling because if that was the case, there would literally be no running plays. Just like if a running back had a say in play calling, there'd be no passing plays. There's a reason why it's the quarterback and the offensive coordinator that are the two most impactful voices when it comes to deciding what plays to call. You cannot open the door for a receiver, especially a guy like Stefan Diggs, who's emotional and allow him to kind of skew one way, maybe get you out of what's working or get you out of your offensive rhythm altogether. So Sean McDermott has to get Stefan Diggs to somehow understand, play your role. We're going to get to the ball.

Don't worry. But when we ask it either, you know, run block or when the ball is not going your way, we still need you all in. This is going to be a lot on Sean McDermott, a little on Ken Dorsey, but mostly on McDermott and Allen as well to keep Diggs in check because there cannot be any blow ups this season. But does Stefan Diggs have respect for those guys? Because clearly he thinks his voice has not been heard. And that's why I think he believes he had to take it to this level. If he doesn't respect it, then again, that's a situation where I think you're right. We will see multiple wallops in this season.

Maybe it could be derailed before it even starts. But if you're McDermott, you have to have the respect and have to have to have him understand why he needs to respect you. And also this is a copycat league. And if one receiver does this, you wonder if there's a domino effect where let's say if the Bills do cater to Stefan Diggs, they're like, all right, you could have a seat in the game plan meetings and in the meetings that usually only quarterbacks go to with the offensive coordinator and sometimes the head coach to devise up the best game plan.

And we'll give you more of a voice in play calling. Stefan Diggs right now makes $24 million a year. The wide receiving money is only skyrocketing. Tyree Kill, $30 million. Devonta Adams, $28 million. Cooper Cupp, $26 million. AJ Brown, $25 million. DK Metcalf, $24 million. Deebo Samuel, almost $24 million. Terry McClure, $23 million. Wait until you see Justin Jefferson's next deal.

Outside of quarterback, which we always know is an enormous salary, the average per year salary for wide receivers is off the chart. Like we've never seen it before. And I wonder if any other wide receivers that get annoyed with the play calling start to kind of, if it works for Stefan Diggs, take a page out of his playbook. And if you're Tyree Kill, maybe say, hey, Mike McDaniel, I want to be a part of your meeting where you get ready to figure out how we're going to run this offense. And if that's the case, I think it becomes a trickery slope because you even look at the quarterback, right?

We're hickey. We even say like, okay, we understand why a quarterback would want to be in on the game plan meeting. Look at Aaron Rodgers. He was at the Packers.

He wanted to say in personnel. And Aaron Rodgers, as great of a quarterback he is, the guys that he wanted retained it in Green Bay, when they left Green Bay, it's not like they had a lot of great success. So just because you're a great player, doesn't mean you know how to best call the offense and doesn't mean, you know, the best personnel or who will be the best personnel to get the best 11 on the field. So you guys can go win as many games as possible. So we're really going to learn a lot about two guys that I like a lot in Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott on how they're going to figure this out and try to nip this right now in the bud so it's not a big issue when the season starts. Because time right now is the best friend for the Buffalo Bills because they're lucky this is in September. Because this will now start to fade away a little bit after this week. Training camp will start back up.

Whenever Staphon Diggs first address reporters, it will be asked about and if Staphon Diggs handles this the right way, it will start to go away and it will not become an issue again until we see him act out. And I can't sit here and tell you that this won't be an issue because it kind of seems like regardless of what Buffalo does in the regular season, it really doesn't matter. And I hate to say that in the NFL because every game in the NFL matters, but Buffalo has now been one of those teams, Hickey, where we've seen them be so good in the regular season and we've seen them right beat Kansas City twice in the regular season where it's not that they could really do anything in the regular season that thoroughly impresses me. Like if Buffalo is number one seed this year, don't get me wrong.

Good for them. You want home field advantage throughout the playoffs, but I got to see them step their game up and take their game to the next level come postseason time. And it's only getting tougher. It's only getting trickier because this AFC got better from where it was last year and it was pretty damn good last year. You know, Mahomes could win a Super Bowl without Tyree kill. You know, Burrow can get to a Super Bowl. We'll see who else breaks out, but Buffalo has been given that tag of like the third team in the AFC. And I can't sit here and tell you without a doubt right now, Hickey, that they are the third best team on paper and will be the third best team this upcoming year in the NFL. Like maybe the Chargers take that next step. Maybe Denver bounces back. Jacksonville, I like them a lot. You look inside the AFC East, the Tua stays healthy.

What's the effect of Aaron Rodgers? There's a lot of teams that you look at in the AFC that are right there, right there for making a run. And if you're Buffalo, you haven't closed the gap. You've done a heck of a job, but are you going to need a change to be made after this year to take your team to the next level or are the guys in the locker room and the coach in the locker room who I like and the general manager who I like that formed this team, are they good enough to win a championship? Because the way that they're currently constructed, you can make a case and they can be in the Super Bowl this year. But if you have Diggs being an issue throughout the season, and let's say Diggs isn't all in and he's frustrated, are you going to get the best version of Stefan Diggs? And if you don't get the best version of Stefan Diggs, this team ain't winning squat because outside of Josh Allen and Von Miller, he's the most valuable player on that team. And if you can't go on the same page, also too, we've seen, especially in the NFL, when it's just one game, all that pressure in the playoffs, you kind of saw last year in that Bengals game when Diggs is going at Allen, if there is a fracture in the relationship or not everyone's on the same page or there's still frustration, that usually boils to a head at the biggest pressure points, which is usually the playoffs. So they can even still get through the regular season. And if Diggs is still, for whatever reason, not all in and not on the same page or not okay with the explanation as to why he cannot be more involved and cannot get basically the ball more than he already has, I think we'll really see that rearage ugly head come playoff time and probably, kind of like it did in Cincinnati, result in an ugly playoff loss where we saw the Bills score was at 10 points, one of the lowest outputs they put out in a while. Looking back now, it's not exactly an accident or coincidence that one of their worst offensive outings also comes when their star receiver, you can kind of see towards the end of the game, gets very frustrated and makes a demonstrable show of his frustration towards Josh Allen. And then also, primetime games even make this a greater issue. Where you look at, remember the Broncos last year, we all know Nathaniel Hackett was in over his head and Russell Wilson was a disaster last year, but they had so many early primetime games or even when they were just on CBS.

I think it was Andrew Catalon who was talking about the play clock and poking fun at them. Things like that matter. And I'll forget about the postseason. I'll forget about January football.

How about week one? Monday night football. One Monday night football game to open up the year.

Bills at the Jets. Imagine if Josh Allen throws a few interceptions. Imagine if Staphon Diggs doesn't get his proper targets. And let's say the Jets with Aaron Rodgers, they win like 31 to 20. And Diggs is just doing what we see all the time, right? A wide receiver yell at a quarterback, a quarterback yell at a wide receiver, an offensive coordinator yell at a quarterback.

That could make this a bigger issue than what it already is now. If that first game doesn't go their way, you know that media storm is coming on a Tuesday, Hickey, where they wonder if there's trouble in paradise with the Buffalo Bills. Up until last week, when this whole MIA situation happened with Staphon Diggs, we were talking about that game from the Jets perspective about national TV. If Aaron Rodgers struggles, Boobert's coming out, the honeymoon is over.

But your wife on the other side, Rodgers looks good, Jets look good. All of a sudden, Bills don't look that great offense. It's now because of the story, it's maybe there's more panic and more intrigue on the Bills than there would have been if Diggs was there and kind of kept this all under the rug.

Let me ask you this. What do you think is more likely week one? Rodgers has a terrible debut for the Jets, where he throws a few interceptions, doesn't play well, they lose the game, or Staphon Diggs and the Bills lose that game, and he's unhappy walking off the field because Allen throws a few interceptions and he didn't like his targets.

What's more likely in your opinion right now? I still say the Jets and Aaron Rodgers playing bad compared to the Bills playing bad. Are you not in on the Jets this year? No. Do you think they make the playoffs?

I do not. You don't think they make the playoffs? I do not think they make the playoffs.

I don't think this is gonna go as quickly as people think. I think the Jets will make the playoffs, but it's not inconceivable to say they're gonna miss the playoffs. So who's your AFC East winner? You're still Buffalo? I would still right now go Buffalo.

Yes, sir. AFC North, do you go Cincinnati? Cincinnati. South, do you take Jacksonville?

Jacksonville. And the AFC West, what are you taking the Broncos again? I will go with the Chiefs.

I've learned my lesson. I'll go with Kansas City. Okay.

So right now, I know I've asked you this a few times, but it could change from time to time. As I'm you know, I'm surprised that you don't have the Jets as one of your three wildcard teams. Who are your three wildcard teams today on June 19th, subject to change potentially? Broncos, Browns, and I will... This is the team I'm going with back and forth of the Jets on. I will go with the Dolphins. Not the Chargers? Not the Chargers.

I think the Dolphins have a lot of talent. I'm worried about Tua's health. Absolutely. But right now, I shouldn't. I will take the gamble right now.

He is healthier than not. Yeah. I think the Chargers are a big omission. I also think the Jets are a big omission as well. I think if you want to tell me one of those teams don't make the playoffs, okay. Both of those teams aren't making the playoffs?

Yeah. I just can't see that one. Both... Like the Chargers, they have so much... I know their coach could be an idiot, but they have so much talent. If Justin Herbert's healthy, I got to think that they're going to make the playoffs. Well, so you look in the AFC.

We'll take the Broncos out, because I'm higher than the most. The Browns have a lot of talent. Jets have a lot of talent. Dolphins have a lot of talent. It's like the AFC is a golden where the Chargers have a lot of talent, but so do even the teams that are fighting for the final wild card burst.

Chargers have a much better roster than the Broncos, but we'll have to wait and see. Sean Paden is a heck of a football coach as we know. This is at the Guilt Show on CBS Sports Radio. We will take a break. When we come on back, I don't get what David Freese is doing.

We'll get to that on the other side. So, Jimmy Butler and David Freese must be best friends. Remember? We had Jimmy Butler, in the midst of the NBA Finals, said to Jared Greenberg, NBA on TNT, that if he ever got inducted into the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame, which Jimmy Butler will, that he's not going and he would not care for the honor because it's an individual honor and he's all about the team. Now, I do think when Jimmy Butler gets inducted into the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame, that he will show up to his ceremony. I think like a guy by the name of Dwayne Wade, who he's very close with, will get in his ear and will say, you need to go to this.

But I didn't even think that was ever a thought. You know, I know T.O. did it because he was annoyed that he was shunned from the Pro Football Hall of Fame for so many years, which was ridiculous.

T.O. should have been a first ballot Hall of Famer. But to not go to a Hall of Fame induction ceremony, one that you're a part of, that just makes no sense to me. Now, it is also different when you get inducted into a team's Hall of Fame, because if you are inducted into a team's Hall of Fame, you don't need to be an all-time great player.

You just need to do something impactful for that team. Because, Hickey, how many guys in sports have a singular moment or a few good years with the team that win a championship? And it's not as if they're an all-time great player where we need to now make the case for David Freese to be inducted into Cooperstown, but a guy that won a championship in St. Louis and was an NLCS MVP and a World Series MVP is definitely deserving of being in the team's Hall of Fame or getting his number retired, like whatever the honor is. But from my understanding of this, Hickey, that the fans, I guess, voted him in, and I'll get to his explanation in a second, but he said thanks but no thanks because he knows what the meaning is to have a red coat and what the honor is. That's what I guess they give the people going into the team's Hall of Fame.

They give him a red jacket, makes sense. St. Louis Cardinals and he doesn't think he's deserving of it. I think that's an obnoxious level of being humble and an obnoxious level of being an organization guy. If the fans want you in, it's not like you're Joe Schmo. When they were down to their final out, their final strike in the World Series in Game 6, you had the tying hit and their next innings you had the walk-off home run. You won an NLCS MVP and a World Series MVP, Hickey. David Freese definitely is deserving. And I know you have so many great players that you don't want to water down the honor, but he's definitely deserving of going into the Cardinals Hall of Fame.

I don't get this one. Especially if the fans vote you in, they obviously want to see you in. And again, the majority, it's a big fan base who knows the history very well. Good fans.

Right. If you just think you're a one-hit-one during all this, one postseason, whatever, sure fans will look back on you kindly, but probably wouldn't vote for you for the Hall of Fame. I would trust fans voting that they would take their own team's Hall of Fame seriously. I truly don't get it. Honestly, I don't get it whatsoever. Even if he truly wasn't deserving of it and we said that on the outside, the fans vote you and you take it. You take the honor when you can get it.

I don't get this. It's not even, you're right. I don't mean, it's not a macho man. It's like an absurd use of humility.

I don't know. That's what it is. It's the obnoxious level of being like the ultimate humble team dude. Now, if you look back at David Freese, so he, once again, World Series champion, World Series MVP, NLCS MVP, all in 2011. In 2012, made the all-star team. He was with the Cardinals on the big league level from 2009 to 2013. I know that this guy isn't, you don't associate him with one of the greatest Cardinals player ever, but he did significant things. He's a hero in St. Louis.

And this is what he said. He said, this is something that I've given an extreme amount of thought to humbly, even before the voting process began. I'm aware of the impact I had helping the team bring great memories to the city I grew up in, including the 11 championship, but this honor means more to me, said Freese. I look at who I was during my tenure and that weighs heavily on me. The Cardinals and the entire city have always had my back in every way. I'm forever grateful to be part of such an amazing organization and fan base then, now, and in the future, continued Freese. I'm especially sorry to the fans that took the time to cast their votes. Cardinal Nation is basically the reason why I've unfortunately waited so long for this decision and made it more of a headache for so many people. I feel strongly about my decision and understand how people might feel about this.

I get it. I'll wear it. Thank you for always being there for me, and I'm excited to be around the Cardinals as we move forward. I don't look at this and say, oh, respect. Oh, David Freese, what a great guy.

And this is just nonsense to me. I know that you're not one of the greatest Cardinals ever, but you are a hero for that team. You had great moments. I just don't get why you would say thanks, but no thanks to go into the team's Hall of Fame. It's also not like they're retiring. That's the greatest honor a team can do, a retired number.

They're not retiring 23. They're putting you in the Hall of Fame. It's like the second tier of honoring someone who's had a huge impact on the team. And I would say, even though it was a short tenure, yeah, winning and helping basically almost single-handedly win the Cardinals, the World Series back in 2011 in and of itself is enough to put you in the Hall of Fame. It brought so many fans great memories that are retiring 23. Just another way to bring keep history alive and remember what was a great postseason and one of the best postseason runs we've seen from a player in general. And one of the great World Series ever. And you don't have to be stand the man and in the class of Bob Gibson or Albert Poulhose or Ozzie Smith or whoever it may be to get into the Cardinals Hall of Fame.

There's different levels of it. No one's sitting here advocating for David Freese to go into Cooper's town, but yeah, definitely a Cardinal that's deserving to be in the team's Hall of Fame. Not only did you win a World Series, you were the MVP of the World Series and the round prior to that. Marco, you're usually good at understanding people, I will say. Do you get what David Freese is doing here? There's a difference between being humble and being ridiculous. This is ridiculous.

We crossed the line here. This is one of those where you look at it, I think in his mind, he looks at it as, I'm not good enough to be with some of the other guys. That may be fair, that may be true. However, you were a big part of this organization and winning a championship. And more importantly, the fans voted you in, even if you truly don't believe in being humble, that you should have your name next to somebody else or a moniker next to some of the greats. And I'm not Albert Poulhose and all that stuff.

Bottom line, you say thank you and you move on. That's a simple thing. So I guess this is the best comparison that we can make here or just kind of like dumb it down for people. Like there's a Radio Hall of Fame. And I don't think any of us in this room ever expect to get inducted into the Radio Hall of Fame. But like, let's say there's a CBS Sports Radio Hall of Fame and that no one's going to look at any of us and say, oh, this guy was on level with Jim Rome or D.A. or whoever would be in the class of the Hall of Fame. But if the fans voted one of us in and we sat there and go, man, I know I was never getting in the Radio Hall of Fame, but then CBS Sports Radio out of Hall of Fame and the fans voted us in. But you know what? I'm not in the same class of of a Jim Rome or a D.A.

or Brian Jones, like all the people that hosted here or an Eric Spitz, who was the station's first program director. Someone's got to go up to him before you go public to that and go, dude, just take the honor. The fans voted you in. You know, it's almost like somebody to tell you that. And I have problems with this sometimes, too, accepting, you know, any kind of anything. Sometimes you just got to say thank you. And in your head you go, I'm not worthy of this necessarily.

Tough. Just swallow it. Smile. Say thank you. Be appreciative, which I believe he is.

I truly believe David Freese is appreciative, but I think he sat down and thought this out way too far. No, you're not Stan Musial. No, you're not Albert Pujols. But no one is telling you that you are. We're not putting you in that category. We're putting you in the Cardinals Hall of Fame where they're just trying to honor you and your small part.

Yeah, they're not making it bigger than what it is. You just made this bigger than what it is by not accepting it. All you had to do was say thank you. And when they had the ceremony and they had the red jacket that they were going to put on you and all that stuff, you could be thinking to yourself, man, I don't truly believe I don't truly deserve this. And this is an honor that's too much for me.

You swallow it. You smile. You're appreciative.

And then later down the road, you look back and you go, that was really cool. Yeah. And maybe there's a bunch of events in St. Louis. I don't know if he's currently working with the organization. He's like, he said something about looking forward, about doing things with the organization, things like that.

And I hate to just judge someone by their social media, but this is what I'm going to do. Maybe it just doesn't like the spotlight because his last tweet up until he commented about this was on June 29th in 2022. So maybe it's the guy that just is so low key and doesn't want any honors, but. I'm not buying that.

Did you accept the trophy for the MVP? Exactly. I'm not buying that. It's five minutes out of your night. It's stupid.

Stop. Look again, there is a lot of, let's say, the Yankees are one of those teams that don't have a hall of fame. It seems like they retire everybody else, everybody's number. They don't have a hall of fame. Let's say they did. And it was like a small little museum, right? And they said, Scott Brocious, we would like to have you inducted into that.

And he goes, you know what? Look, man, I'm not Babe Ruth. I'm not Lou Gehrig. I'm not Derek Jeter.

No, you're not. But you had a small part in a dynasty and you were an MVP in 1998 and were amazing in the world series. We would just like to honor that. Plus, you had a big moment in the 2001 world series.

Simple as that. Let me ask you this now. I know that Harold Baines, right? Got elected into Cooperstown. Right.

People were annoyed with that. David Freese. Now we're going to get a call to Cooperstown.

No. But let's just say for this sake, if he got the call to Cooperstown. He's taken it. You would think you would take it.

And you know what? And honestly, if you're standing up there and going, I don't deserve to be with the rest of these guys, but damn it, I'm going to take it. I think a lot of people respect that. Which is the same concept of what this is. You can stand there and say, I don't deserve to be in this category. However, thank you. It's as simple as that. When you made it, you made it bigger than what it needed to be.

And that's unfortunate because now you basically told the fans to go screw and that's not cool. By the way, I'm very distracted right now because Mariah Mills, who is the gal who is very upset with Zion Williamson, she is still tweeting. This is her latest tweet that just got retweeted on my timeline. I do not follow her. Really?

I was going to say. So you're a big follower, eh? Sean Sharif does a great job. Big fan of her work, huh? She's a good personality, let me tell you. But Sean Sharif from the fan in Dallas, who's been on this show before, he retweeted her. So maybe we'll check his history. This is from Mariah Mills.

MBA. I have sex tapes of me and Zion Williamson, and he also has them on his trap phone. Tags the NBA and the Pelicans. Trade him now. He doesn't deserve to be in New Orleans. The sex tape dropping soon.

Now I'll just say this. If it's just a video of you having sex with him and there's nothing more to that, like nothing violent or anything along those lines, who cares if Zion Williamson is just having sex? That's not a reason why, oh, the Pelicans now got to trade him. If it goes to a different level, then that's a different conversation. But for this to be some threat, if all you guys are doing is sleeping with one another, I don't understand this story anymore.

I mean, again, the embarrassment is what she's going for. Why he would need to be traded off that really has nothing to do with anything. Does he necessarily want that out there? I would imagine he does not. However, we don't know that. So I would assume he wouldn't. I wouldn't think so. You never know. I don't know.

Everybody thinks differently. What the hell do I know? I would have let David Freese would have took all the fame on it and moved on.

But what the hell do I know? Look, that's not a trade him scenario. I mean, really, what's the blackmail involved in this? And maybe like the Pelicans do end up trading him. But I heard Brian Windhorst last week goes, there's a lot of drama around Zion this off season. There's reasons to trade Zion Williamson. The guy never plays. But if you go, oh, he's sleeping with multiple women, we have to trade him.

A lot of people are going to have to be trading the end. No, that's nonsense. No, no, no. It's just the idea of him not playing and not wanting to be there. That's the problem.

That's the issue. That's what the Pelicans need to decide. Do they want to move forward and think that he's eventually going to come back and be healthy and be content? Or are some of these injuries maybe because he just doesn't feel like getting on the court for New Orleans? That's what they have to figure out, not because they're going to worry about what his personal life is.

And now she's also tweeting, I'm done tweeting. Zion Williamson, see you in court. How can you just release that tape? Look, I don't know. Yeah, I'm not going to sit here and start. I'm going into waters that are beyond me. The idea of dropping all that, like, I don't know. I feel like you could wind up getting sued if you put it out there.

If you don't have, you know, consent. I don't know enough for that stuff, nor do I really want to get involved with Zion and whatever her name is and Mariah Mills, whatever the hell's going on in that situation. Zach Guilp show on CBS Sports Radio. Do you hear that? That is the sound of BMW performance without a single piston or cylinder, a generation of all electric vehicles designed and built like no other. The BMW iX, i7 and i4 revolutionize every drive into a thrilling opportunity to feel the pure rush of BMW 100% electric.

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Could you guess the five highest odds and the five highest teams, I mean, to land Draymond Green? I can. I cheated. I looked at it before. I can give you the top three top four. I don't like when you prepare.

I mean, I'm usually used to you being like, I like it. There's a golden again. Warriors, Lakers, Mavericks, Suns, which I don't know how the Suns are in the top five. That to me makes zero sense unless Draymond is going for the vet minimum.

How are they adding them? I don't know how the heck that they would do that. Clearly DeAndre Aiden is going to be on his way out of town, but I guess just the idea of, okay, you get rid of DeAndre Aiden and you bring in Draymond Green, but from a money standpoint, especially with how confusing the new CBA is and how all these teams are going to have to shed a lot of salary.

I don't get how that, they would find a way to make that work. And clearly Draymond Green by turning down the 27 and a half million thinks he's going to get a big fat payday from someone. I guess if you're the Suns, right? Maybe if you move Aiden and they just say, screw it, we'll blow it all up and just blow through the salary cap. Five hundred million dollars.

Who cares? Maybe go for Draymond, which they could use actually Draymond Green, but the Suns are an interesting one. The Suns could use him because they'll play defense and they're going to need some defense. So if I give you the team, you tell me if you would want Draymond Green. At plus 150, it's the Golden State Warriors. He stays with the Golden State Warriors.

Your thoughts on that? I still think the Warriors could use him. Yes, I would. Why could they use him? I would move Klay over Draymond. I still think he's the leader of that team. Steph is not like a vocal leader.

He'd get in your face. Draymond still holds guys accountable. I do think despite a lot of negatives and stupidity and missing time because of suspensions, he still is the glue and the heartbeat to that team. I would much rather have Klay Thompson over Draymond Green, but the decision is really, do you want Draymond or do you want Jordan Poole? And I personally, in the year of 2023, not what they've done in the past, but what I can anticipate from the future, think there's a higher upside to Jordan Poole than Draymond Green. If it's those two, I'm with you.

Yes. Take the future, take the more talented player in Jordan Poole and hope he's with Draymond's exit and a bad year learns from it. Well, do you think that they can coexist at this point, Jordan Poole and Draymond Green? Because it seems like you think they can, if you're saying bring back Draymond Green. I don't see a way how you have both those guys in the same locker room again next year.

I know it's a Jordan Poole. He said the right things after the season, but that's also media talk. There's also one thing where I could sit there and tell you, oh, I love this guy and I'll definitely work with this person and we'll be fine. And then behind the scenes, you hate that person's guts. How many times has that happened in a place of work where you say you like someone and then the next thing you know, that person is not in front of you, or you're not talking about someone publicly and then you start trashing them behind the scenes? Happens all the time in any place of work. Everyone has that person in their work office that they can't stand and they think they get treated, you know, miss fairly. Let's just say there's always that type of person. And you may say, yeah, I like that person. And I walk away and talk to someone else. You're like, yeah, can't stand that person. I don't think you'd have Jordan Poole and Draymond Green on the same team. That's just me. And if I'm the Golden State Warriors, I would side with Jordan Poole because Draymond Green, it's just simple.

The juice isn't worth the squeeze anymore for me when I look at it. How about the Lakers? You know Draymond Green.

I think this would be a great question. You get Draymond Green on a lie detector test. Would you rather go to Golden State or Los Angeles Lakers? It seems like he loves LeBron James the most than anyone in the NBA these days. He loves LeBron. I would agree.

If it's one or the other, I think he would go to LeBron. I just don't see how that works right now. If you have Anthony Davis and Draymond Green on the same team.

Oh, I can see working. I think that's what they need. They need him to hold AD in check. Those games where he checks out, where he's not all in, Draymond would get in his face. Okay, fine. But to have both of them on the basketball court in the last five minutes, that doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Well, why? I think it's too many people in the paint. Well, Draymond's not really a paint player.

He spreads it out. He's more of a passer. He's obviously not a scorer, so you don't got to worry about him taking shots. An AD is a perimeter game. He could shoot the three. Yeah, but I know that Anthony Davis could shoot the basketball. I just think that's too many bigs on one team.

Definitely not like a Rudega Bear and Cat. I don't think it's a fit. Yeah, okay, that's worse, but I don't think it's a real fit. If you're trying to get them closer to winning a championship, I don't see how Anthony Davis playing alongside Draymond Green with LeBron James as well is a group that I feel great about going out there winning a championship. What about the Mavericks? The Mavericks, you know, are going to bring back Kyrie Irving. Kyrie's going to run out of destinations.

There's not going to be enough interest. Kyrie would go back there. Could you imagine you have Kyrie and Draymond on the same team? Those press conferences would be must-see, Hickey. It would be crazy. From an intrigue and our perspective, I'm in. From a radio perspective, the Mavericks would be, I think, the most fascinating team. Definitely be playing postgame press clippings all show. How quickly will you want Luka Doncic to force a trade?

855-212-4 CBS if that ends up happening. What about the Rockets? Any interest at Rockets? No. Heat?

No. I think you need a scorer. I think you need a scorer.

Yeah, they already got a culture. If you tell me that's the big move Portland does, if you go on out and you get Dame, I mean, if you go out there and get Draymond for Dame, that's not really improving those chances. Oh, here's a team.

Plus 2,500. I know you've been floating this team out to the Memphis Grizzlies. That's the team I think that needs them the most. They need them. They need an enforcer. Because Draymond, even though he could be a pain in the ass, he is a respected voice in the NBA and he is a leader.

Now, sometimes he leads the wrong way and he gets under the skin of people and then elicits a bad reaction and then he's not held accountable for leading the wrong way. But that is a team, man, that would be a heel move, especially with the history between those two teams, how much they've gone back and forth. If Draymond just says, I bleeped the Warriors, I'm going to Memphis to try to show John Moran how to act like an adult. I guess you could spin it from Draymond's perspective of, oh, I'm taking Dylan Brooks' role and take that, Dylan.

I'll show you what a real player leader is, what a real champion looks like. I don't know. I know that he's not afraid to talk smack, and we've seen him talk smack before to Dylan Brooks, but I feel like he's above that now to have to triple and quadruple down on the smack talk to Brooks. So who knows where he's going to be playing next year.

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