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Thank you. This is What's Right, What's Left, with Pastor Ernie Sanders. Good evening and welcome to another edition of What's Right, What's Left on this 12th day of March, 2025. And tonight, for a while, he's our producer, he's style. Hey, good evening, Pastor. There he is. And you have right here in the studio with me, Aaron Gunaneas, he is the president of Jug County Right to Life, and he's here tonight because he wasn't invited anywhere else. Good to see you, Pastor. Hello audience.
Alright, there you go. I wouldn't rather be, well, in many places than he is. But we have our special guest. Our special guest, she's pert and she's pretty. And she never goes out into the woods and screams like some women do nowadays.
When she goes out into the woods, she gets willow bark. Miss Wendy Wilson. Hello, Pastor, good evening. I bet you weren't ready for that, were you?
No, I was not. Alright, there you go. Well, it's good to have you here. Thank you.
You are, I think you are America's herbalist, that's who you are, America's herbalist. Oh, well, I'll take it, thank you. Alright, we're going to get into our scripture tonight, and the title of the message was �The Truth, The Justification, Crowns and Rewards.� And we went through the truth and the justification, so tonight we're on crowns and rewards. And we're going to pick it up where we left off in 1 Corinthians chapter 9, and we start in verse 23 through 27. Now, you all out there know you've been listening to me for years that I can read, so I'm going to let Aaron read this so you all know he can read, too.
Go ahead, Aaron. And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you. Know you not that they which run a race run all but one receiveth the prize, so run that ye may obtain. And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things, now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown, but we an incorruptible. I therefore so run not as uncertainly, so fight I not as one that beateth the air, but I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection, lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway. Okay, now, it's very interesting because this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be a partaker thereof with you, make it a point that everything we do for the Lord's sake, we have to do, we give it our very best. We always give it our very best, like that's what we do tonight, when Wendy makes her herbs or medicine, she does her very best.
And so whatever we do for the Lord's sake, he goes on, Know you not that they which run a race run but one receiveth the prize, so run that ye may obtain. Remember we used, that was the saying years ago, that song, one hundred men they'll test today, but only three when the Green Beret, when they changed that, then Obama put all the women in there, so they had to lower the standards, three times they had to lower the standards, so it's different, instead of one hundred men we'll test today, it's one hundred people and a lot of the men left, then he goes on and he goes on to say, and every man is striving for mastery, temperate and all things, now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown, but we an incorruptible crown, what do you think they mean by that corruptible crown? Can you give me an example of a corruptible crown? Well worldly, worldly things? Yeah, the word crown there means prize, it's the same thing as prize, what about the WWW, the wide wrestling, when those guys, they win that prize, the big belt, but do you think maybe there's more theatrics than there is actual wrestling, although I guess you're the best entertainer out there and you've got to be in very, very good shape and that takes a lot of hard work to do that, but really they're not wrestlers, they're entertainers aren't they?
Yeah, well I mean, they make it look good without hurting somebody so it's kind of hard to tell in some cases. Well the professional sports though, the team trophies, they're worth quite a bit, and that would be an example of a corruptible crown, or this is more individual based, golf trophies. I think a good example of that would be Super Bowl rings, they're one of the things they do with the Super Bowl, they sell them and sometimes they counterfeit them too, Super Bowl rings would be a corruptible trophy if you will.
Tennis trophies, that's individual sports. And so here, but he says, but I keep, therefore so run, not as in certainly, so fight I not as one to beat it there. In other words, look I'm in this thing, I'm in here, what is he, the crowns he wants to win Eric, the Bemisy judgment huh? His goal is to receive many crowns, to hear those words, well done my good and faithful servant, but then he says this, this isn't what he wants to hear, but I keep under my body and bring it into subjection lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
Now that word there in the Greek is adakimos, adakimos, the word adakimos, adakimos means approved, approved of, adakimos means disapproved of and that's what that word there is, it's adakimos, it means disapproved of. So what is Paul saying, he says this, and I myself should be a castaway, in other words previously he had just preached over there in chapter 3 about you can lose your rewards without losing your salvation, he had said in fact, well you know we haven't got there yet but that's what we'll get to when he says this, if any man's work shall be burned he shall suffer loss but he himself shall be saved yet by fire and so, but he's saying this that you could lose all your crowns without losing your salvation, now think about that and that's one of the things we try to preach on people all the time, get them to try to understand this, this is real, you're going to go into eternity and I like to give the analogy of do you want to go in as a private one or would you really go in and spend eternity as a four star general, maybe that's not the best analogy but anyhow because in all of that time, Wendy, all of eternity, everybody will know what you did and what you failed to do for the Lord, huh? So anyhow, I hope you learned a lesson there. I want you to think a key point here, Pastor, so we want to seek first the kingdom of God always and when he's saying I might, in verse 27, I myself should be a castaway, that's a reference in context of the whole verse but I keep my body under subjection, meaning that as he does kingdom business, even doing a good deed, if you don't have the right motive and attitude, meaning if it's not consistent with the word of God and the will of God, you can do a good deed and then you won't get a reward for it but if you're doing it for the Lord, you'll be rewarded and then you know that it's to the glory of God and that's what that means. Actually, it's more like this, okay? When you have all of these people, your good deeds, your works don't really count until you're saved. The very first blessing that you can receive is that of salvation. I'm talking about after salvation. Yeah, but after salvation, all of your works, okay, that are good works, all of your good works, you're going to get rewards for, they count, okay? In other words, now, I mean if your motive is not the right motive, okay, if you're doing it, if you're doing something that might be a good work but even though it's, if you're doing it for your own glory, you're not the glory of God.
That would be with Hayne Stubble because God is, he's righteous, he's got a judge based on... Well, God would know why you're doing it, see that's just the thing. Yeah. Okay, so... Well, I mean the point here is where he says, at the very end of 27, I myself should be a castaway, that's in reference to not doing things with the wrong motive or attitude. That's correct.
That's the word adokamos means I myself should be disapproved, it's not a castaway like we talked about, you get cast away on some island or left in desert, it simply means disapproved of. In other words, I lose my rewards, that's what he's referring to. Yeah, I mean that's my point.
Yeah. So you want to do things with the right heart is the fundamental. Well, yeah, well you should always do, God gets the glory, God should always get the glory. Let's go over to 2 Timothy chapter 4, 2 Timothy chapter 4 verses 6 through 8. Paul says this, this asks you a question last night, this is when you asked me about the crown of righteousness, this is here what I was referring to, for I'm not ready to be offered and the time of my departure is at hand. So Paul knew that his time was coming here.
He was, he was about to be crucified. I fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith. Now in 50 years on the radio I can say in the pro-life movement, I can actually say I fought the good fight, I've given it my best, doing it for the Lord's word. This is what he wants you to, for all of us to be able to say that. Maybe not in everything, I haven't been the best in everything, but in that work, in the ministry, yes, and then he said, henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness which the Lord, the righteous judge should give me, at that day, and not to me only, but unto all of them that love, that love his appearance. Now he's talking about the abimasy judgment, huh? And so that's what he's referring to. So the crown of righteousness symbolizes, and we talked about that, the rewards for service which Christ will award at his judgment seat. We just read out of 1 Corinthians 3, 14, also 2 Corinthians 5, 10, we did that too, this, well that's what we just did. I have a question.
Go ahead. I was just wondering, do you suppose people are going to wear them crowns all the time? It's not really those kind of crowns that you wear on your head. The word here actually means trophies, it's the trophies. They use that word, the crown, you know, symbolically, but yeah. So it's not something you put on your mantle, but is it an insignia that you wear on your clothing? You know what, I guess I really won't know it's a reward until we get there, huh?
But it's not. I was just wondering if other people would recognize by what you were wearing or had, you know. I don't know. I'm just wondering. I know that when they refer to crown of many crowns that used to be, there would be one crown but on that crown would be little inscriptions of crowns on a crown, but here, I don't know, it's possible that we could have a crown that we wear on our heads, what he's referring to there, but they use that in those days as a reward when you got a reward, a crown. Do you think any of those crowns factor into some sort of level of hierarchy?
Or doesn't it matter? I don't think we're, there's going to be a hierarchy in heaven, okay. We know that because of Jesus' parable with the talents, right? Well, we do know that there are levels of authority, though, and people will hold different positions, like even during the millennial kingdom, we're going to rule with Christ.
It's like some being governors, some being senators, whatever. And we do know that we will be judging angels, okay. I said, well, we'll actually have authority over some angels, but I don't think it's going to be anything like it is here today. There would be, well, I don't know, we're going to have to find out, but I don't think you can see. We're going to find out, yes.
We are going to be surprised. Yeah, there's a whole lot of things that we'll have to wait until we get there, huh? Yeah.
Well, I mean, what we think, because we think in worldly terms, so it's kind of hard to wrap our brain around heavenly things sometimes. Right. And just like, it's hard to be, we'll be given new names in heaven, so all this time I've just not gotten used to the one I've got now. Ernie, son of, what's your dad's name? Raymond.
Ernie, son of Raymond. There you go, anyhow, we better move on. We're going to go over to Revelation chapter 2, Revelation chapter 2, Revelation chapter 2, starting with verse 8, so go ahead and read 8 through 11. And unto the angel of the church and smear no right, these things saith the first and the last, which was dead and is alive. I know thy works and tribulation and poverty, but thou art rich, and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer.
Behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried, and ye shall have tribulation ten days. Be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the spirits say unto the churches.
He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death. OK, so here unto the angel of the church in Smyrna. Who was the angel in the church of Smyrna? The pastor. He's referring to the pastor.
He's written these to the seven pastors of the seven churches there. And so several places in Scripture you have where angels are referred to as men and then angelic beings are referred to, or men are referred to as angels. That word here is simple, it means messenger, to the messenger of the church in Smyrna. So for example, remember when Gabriel was sent to assist Daniel and he was held up by Satan until Michael the archangel came and released him. And Daniel says, the man Gabriel, the man he referred to as the man Gabriel. And here the angel of the church here is the pastor of the church, means messenger. Write these things, you know Smyrna, that's an interesting thing because Smyrna was a port city about thirty-five miles north of Ephesus, but here's the thing about Smyrna today, Smyrna is still there.
It's called Izmir, it goes by the name of Izmir. And what took place there was Polycarp, he was a convert of John who wrote, who was the writer of Revelation, Polycarp was martyred there in that place. So he says, these things saith the first and the last which was dead and alive.
So who was the first and the last? Jesus. That was Jesus.
The elf and the meagre, the beginning and the end, who was alive and who was dead and now is alive. I know thy works and thy tribulation and poverty, but thou art rich. So he's not rich in worldly goods, but he's rich in spiritual goods, huh? I know the blasphemy of them that they say they are Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Okay, so those that say they are Jews are not, they were referred to as the seeds, but not the sons of Abraham, the seeds of Abraham, but not the sons of Abraham. Jesus referred to that over in John chapter 8 especially, then here he's referring to them, though they say they are Jews but are not, they are the synagogue of Satan. Now Paul referred to the one-third, those that converted, the converted Jews as the sons of Abraham, the sons of Abraham, and Jesus referred to that too.
And so today, for examples, if I was to say, could you give me some example today of who would be the seed but not the sons of Abraham? Well like, how about Chuckie Schumer, Chuckie Schumer, he's a Jew, he wears his little, but Chuckie Schumer is not a believer. Soros. Oh, he's one of the worst, George Soros. What about Jamie Raskin?
He's a Jew. He needs to retire from public office. He needs to repent like the others.
Absolutely. And what about Hillary Clinton? Well, she definitely needs to repent, dear God, we pray that Hillary repents. Her real name was not Rodham, as you heard Hillary Rodham, her real name was Rosen, Hillary Rosen, and they all like to have these, like Wesley Clark, Wesley Clark's real last name was Cain, and I heard him, he didn't realize, he was on C-SPAN, and the mics were hot, it was over, he had finished speaking, and he was talking to these Jewish women, and he said, you know, I'm a Jew too, and they said you are, and yeah, and it's when he told them, he said, my real name is Cain, well, John Kerry, his real name was Cohen. And they changed his name so that his initials would be JFK, and he was supposed to, they warmed him up to John Kennedy, but you have, but Hillary, yeah, they had, it was a very interesting thing because they had a kosher kitchen in the White House, and remember that story when Slick Willie came in and caught Hillary in bed with that woman who used to be on night court, what was her name, the cute little blonde that played the defense attorney on night court, I'm trying to think of her name, but anyhow, Slick, how I found out about her, because it was the kosher cook who happened to be there, and he heard everything, he was outside, he heard everything, and what happened was Slick came in and tried to get in bed with the two of them, and one of them threw an ashtray at him, the other threw a lamp at him, and the little secret, the female secret service agent, her job is to protect the president first, she had to take the two hits, so Hillary fired her for getting in front of Slick, and she sued him for big, they paid out of court, big, big, big bucks, yeah, but, but, so the cook called you? Called Larry. He called Larry Nichols. Hillary Clinton were together in bed?
Yeah, yeah, Hillary was bisexual, yeah, in fact one time Slick had said to Larry Patterson, he said, I wish I could get the women that Hillary gets, okay, so, but, yeah, that's, I got that. You mean Larry Nichols? Yeah, the cook had called Larry Nichols, told him the whole story, and Larry called me right away and said, guess what just happened, and I said, what happened, and he had it all. Well, back to the scripture. Well, we're out of time for tonight, hang tight, we'll have to pick this up here. Tomorrow we'll be back right after this. We'll be right back.
You say no one murdered more than Hitler did, most people would say that's true, but over 50 million babies that were never born might disagree with you, yeah, they might disagree with you, yeah, they might disagree with you, yeah, they might disagree with you, yeah, they might disagree with you, yeah, they might disagree with you, yeah, they might disagree with you, yeah, they might disagree with you, yeah, they might disagree with you, yeah, they might disagree with you, yeah, they might disagree with you, yeah, they might disagree with you, yeah, they might disagree with you, yeah, they might disagree with you, yeah, You know, Wendy had a topic, you see, it has something to do with dementia, but I can't remember. Oh, yes, I do. Okay. Hey, Wendy, if I was to need some natural herbs, would I go out in the woods and get them? Where would I get my herbs, besides from apothecary herbs?
Take it away. Yeah, if you're wanting, I'm here, if you're wanting to wild craft herbs, you know, yourself, you know, you could, if you know what you're looking for in the woods, you can wild craft herbs. Usually, people will go to your health food stores or, you know, some of these big grocery stores that deal with wellness areas and you can buy finished products or bulk products.
That's where a lot of people get them. What if I just go right out in the front yard and dig up some dandelion roots? Yeah, dandelion roots, you just want to make sure, you know, it's not been treated with chemicals.
And if you want the root, you harvest it in the fall, in September, that's when all the nutrition goes back to the root in the fall. Oh, well then you'd have to know, because the flower would be gone, mostly, by then you'd have to know how to recognize the leaves, huh? You would, you would have to, yeah, so, you know, if you study herbs, you kind of know that, you'll know trees, you'll know all kinds of things if you, the School of Natural Healing out in Springville, Utah.
When I went there, they didn't have any online classes, but they do now, so a lot of people can take a lot of online classes today and not even have to be in Utah. You know those bug out kits that we made, you know, in case you had to get up and leave in a hurry? In that bug out kits, I had two books and they show you how to identify all of these herbs, things that you can eat out in the woods and then how to recognize them, because you don't want to get ahold of the wrong things. What do dandelion roots do? Well, the dandelion roots kill cancer. That's what Windsor Medical University discovered, yeah, by accident, that it kills all known cancer cells. It has a protein marker in it and cancer is very much attracted to protein. Healthy cells do not uptake dandelion, but the cancer cells do. So, you know, cancer cells, that's one of the things, in my diet, I eat a lot of nuts and nuts have got a lot of protein, huh?
Well, they do, lots of minerals and it's a healthy level of fat, so if you want to lose unwanted fat, you have to have healthy fat to do it. And usually a handful of nuts is sufficient for most people. Yeah, I love nuts. Yeah, they're good and compact, they got protein, I mean, I used to snack on nuts on a busy day and I didn't have time for lunch, you know, and that really held you over, really.
Yeah, Erin's got a little packet of nuts right here, I just gave it to her. Now, Wendy, with the nuts, as other packaged foods, I mean, this says non-GMO, is that the standard with everything? No, some of the nuts are not, you know, almonds, they've messed around with almonds, so they're genetically modified, which, you know, then all the almond milk and stuff comes into play, and people worry about that, so you have to continuously check, there's a list, I believe, on the CDC's website on what has been genetically modified, and they keep adding to it, so the list is getting longer. But some people have sensitivities to nuts, and can't eat certain nuts, that's one of the top four food allergens. Peanuts, I think peanuts are one of the, you know, one of the... Peanuts is on the list, but you know, anybody can be allergic to pecans, walnuts, you know, all kind of nuts, and how you get them, how they've been processed, a lot of them have oils on them, and so a lot of times they can go bad, some of them have a lot of sugar and flavorings on them, so, I mean, nuts are expensive, have you not seen them in the store, I mean, you can, a little can of something is what, ten dollars or more for just a little bitty can. Well, if you know where to go to get them, you can get them a lot less than that, right Aaron?
We sure do know. Are you going to the Amish? The Amish have some good deals.
Yeah, they have some terrific deals, yeah. Yeah, I'm sure they've got pecan trees and things like that, but yeah, nuts are full of minerals, and the one thing about the human body is we need to replenish minerals, if we're not getting them in our produce, then you're going to have to get them somewhere, you know, and almonds, or, not almonds, but your nuts have the minerals that help replenish that. So once you have replenished minerals, a lot of times your hunger is satisfied, then you're not munching on empty calories. I take a cap full of, it's probably about an ounce of that colloidal minerals every day. Do you think our body absorbs all that? It's a liquid.
The colloidal, yeah, I mean, nothing to be really digested or broken down like a solid food source, it sure goes right into the body, usually in 60 seconds, you know, liquids and powders are my choice because they're very efficient and they're easy to adjust as far as what you need to take. All right, and I take all of the stuff that you have because it works. Yeah, we sent you some things, and I think you're doing better on them, I'm giving you a little bit more vim and vigor. Yeah, well it's up to you to keep me alive, Wendy. Oh, okay, well, me and the Lord's herbs, we'll do our best. All right, very good.
Now, let's get back to this topic. There's certain minerals that they're trying to use to fight Alzheimer's, not Alzheimer's, but dementia. Yeah, yeah, medicine's been looking to herbs for some time for dementia, Alzheimer's. This is a report from Science that was looking into herbs for Alzheimer's, and they often look to natural plants to see if there's a way, an option of making a prescription medicine from the plant. If they're successful, they market the drug as a more natural form to attract, you know, a segment of the population that's shying away from petrochemical medications. So the problem with this approach is patented medications are never the same as the original source, or it would not meet the requirements for the patent.
So as you know, and now are aware, prescribed medications, even if they contain a natural source, tend to not function the same as the natural source does in the human body, and it offers side effects. Well, this is a study, March 2025, Squibb Research Institute, they discovered the healing benefits for cognitive function with the herb rosemary. So in the 1930s, if you recall, we talked about this, Pastor, rosemary was also used to help with cataracts due to the rosemarinic acid in it.
And so the original research was done by Dr. Burton Cooper. Now, is rosemary, is that a leaf, is that a leaf, or is that a berry, or what is rosemary? No, it's a leaf, it's a leaf, it's a, you know, usually people use them medicinally to season dishes, rosemary, sage, all those type of, you know, culinary herbs, but in ancient times, they were considered currency. People needed them to be healthy, and so it was considered a currency.
A lot of people in the temple would pay their tithes in herbs. But this research on Dr. Cooper in the 20s, his research using rosemarinic acid to reverse a cataract was also verified by Glasgow Medical Journal in 1938, and also scientific reports duplicated this study in 2017. So the treatment of rosemarinic acid fell from favor, though, in the 1940s, when intraocular lenses were created, cataract surgery. Now, according to Squips' research, there are certain compounds in rosemary they're interested in, also in sage, and they're called cosnosic acid, cosmic acid, and their report addresses, it's helpful against inflammation that's often associated with dementia cases. However, scientists are kind of unable to work with the organic, isolated form of carnotic acid, stating it was unstable, and then they were forced to create what is a synthetic form of it. So the research did get published in the March 2025 Journal of Antioxidants, and this was well done on animal trials, pastor, they didn't move yet to human clinical trials on this. Here is a quote from the report, while pure carnotic acid is too unstable to be used as a drug, scientists have now synthesized the stable form, and this compound is fully converted in the gut before it's being absorbed into your bloodstream. So they're using this to reduce inflammation and thereby improve dementia cases. And this has been supposedly done in lab animals, okay?
So the research is stating that analysis of the mice brain tissue in those samples showed the drug decreased inflammation in the brain, and since rosemary and sage are on the FDA safe list, scientists anticipate kind of smooth sailing as they move the research into the human clinical trials. And I will say this, this was back in 2015, the Journal of Pharmaceutical Health Care and Sciences printed a report where they said Ginkgo, Ginkgo Leboba, you know, we use that for memory, they said it was also used for dementia cases, and the reason they were using Ginkgo is it improved not only memory and a lack of concentration, but it improved depression and improved dizziness or vertigo and improved tinnitus ringing in the ears. Ginkgo. Ginkgo does?
Ginkgo Leboba, yeah. I've had tinnitus since a teenager. I know, yeah, a lot of people have that ringing thing. But they have a real challenge with this study that they're working with, with the dementia. They said the synthetic form will cross the blood-brain barrier and it activates antioxidants and anti-inflammatory genes, but this drug compound oxidizes easily, making it unstable as a drug because it has a short shelf life, so they've got some work to do on it. Kind of interesting, though, that it becomes unstable when they isolate some components of rosemary that they want, or from sage that they want, because what God put in the plant, all the alkaloids and all the other components work together in the human body. See, God created that. And so when you start to change it, you're going to get different effects. So it's sort of like, you know, reinventing the wheel or changing God's copyright.
It's just not going to work the same. According to Stuart Lipton, medical doctor at this research, squibs research, he said, we did multiple different tests of memory and they were all improved with the drug. And it didn't just slow down the decline, it improved memory virtually back to normal. Analysis of tissues also showed increased neurosynaptic density and decreased formation of the aggregate of amyloid plaques. Now amyloid plaques is a big question mark, as I've read some research, where amyloid plaques don't have anything to do with Alzheimer's.
It's kind of all been made up of science, so kind of take that with a grain of rice. So science plans to continue the research, possibly open the door for this drug when they finally get it together. They want to use it for type 2 diabetes, heart disease, and neurodegenerative conditions like Parkinson's disease. Okay, so let's talk about rosemary and sage for just a minute here in its whole food state. So what it is about these herbs is they act not only as an anti-inflammatory or an antioxidant, but apparently rosemary and sage offer all these antioxidants that work with the anti-inflammation action in the plant that activates enzymes. So here's the key, when you have all the components in the plant, it will activate enzymes.
So the chemistry of rosemary and sage have many compounds that work together, often called phenolytic compounds, and when they are together and they're not isolated, they perform various benefits, and here's the list. Your defense mechanisms are improved, that's your immune system. They also help regulate growth with chemical messengers, so your DNA and your cells all communicate really well. They also obviously offer the antioxidants and anti-microbial benefits, anti-inflammation, also anti-aging, anti-allergy, and cardio protection. So squid says this, the carnosic acid is an antioxidant and an anti-inflammatory compound and it works by activating enzymes that make up the body's natural defense system.
So when they change it though, they're getting different results and it oxidizes too quickly and it's unstable. So you're going to find, though, phenolytic compounds in these foods, vegetables, coffee and tea, wine, onions, broccoli, cabbage, citrus roots, grapes, and berries. So now you're going to get these compounds and a lot of those enzymes to give you a lot of those benefits. So why are they looking at these herbs? Why is medical science looking into herbs for a new source of treatment for dementia? Well most of the current drug therapies have little to no benefits.
Herbs that regularly use herbs for culinary and medicinal benefits have a lower risk of Western ailments like dementia, so it's reasonable to ascertain if rosemary and sage preserved meat from spoiling in the ancient world, it's a no-brainer that they're preserving humans as well if you're using them, so which is probably why science will look into them to begin with. However, the goal for your medical science is massive profits, as you know, they really don't want to find a cure, but they want patients back to thinking better, but not cured, they want you to keep taking the drug. So massive profits often leads to, in medical science, lots of fraud and your outcomes and patients not in the best interest of patients. Well medical science, it seems it's all they do is treat the symptoms, treat the symptoms. Yeah, that's where they get the most money, curing you doesn't get them hardly any, one treatment and you're cured, that's not going to work for them. So our creator designed herbs for specific benefits, and this is why when chemistry is manipulated and changed, a different outcome develops and it begs to reason, why not use the original herbs that got created? Two reasons for the majority of people are, they hesitate to use herbs to invest in the out-of-pocket funds and the time to use natural therapies, because natural therapies can take three or four months to show some results, okay? And people just don't, they're impatient, they want something that works right away. But lately, more people that are becoming past are unsure of scientific research and the therapies it's producing, so during your COVID, for instance, 60% of the U.S. population, like the United Kingdom, also trusted in the treatments medical science was pushing and roughly 40% of the population hesitated and then tried natural therapies instead.
So this behavior was not lost on your health authorities, Pastor, and because of the fallout of those COVID treatments, a lot of skepticism of the medical science has increased. Now a big question is, what would the United States population do if there's another pandemic? Well it would probably be determined by what kind of viral pathogen it would be and its lethal status, also if enough time had passed since the last pandemic and people, you know, tend to forget what happened with the COVID. And then the kind of pressure that may be initiated by authorities to secure compliance.
So those are the three big things that would determine how the nation would respond. I think right now, because you have so many people that took the COVID shot, the kill shot, and they're getting sick now that it's five years later and it's hitting them hard, it's really hitting them hard. Well didn't the front line doctors tell us it would be two to five years?
Didn't they? Yeah, Sherry, Sherry, Ted and Penny, when she came on here, when they first started on that, in fact, you were here three weeks before the first people took the first shot. We were warning people. You came on and told us, look, do you know that all of the test animals, every single one died, don't take this, it's not a vaccine. So we had, what's his name, the fellow that invented it come on and he said, it's not a vaccine, it's a bioweapon, okay. And basically that's what Dr. Malone told me back in the 90s.
Malone was the guy we, yeah. So now people, they're having a much harder time, in fact, I was talking to some at the Cleveland Clinic, of course, they still push it and they say, yeah, nobody wants the shot anymore. Nobody wants to take it.
But the people that worked there, you know, they won't take them in, you know, so. Right, I mean, yeah, it's just a, I don't know even why they're shipping it and making it and sending it to clinics because people aren't really lining up like they used to for it. But, you know, what we did at Apothecary Arabs Pastors is we have a formula that's based on John Christopher's formulation called Brain Concentrate and it does have the rosemary and the ginkgo in it. So you have to add a little bit of rosemary to the ginkgo and a little bit of circulatory herb to get it to the brain. So that's good for focus, concentration, you know, cognitive issues. And also then, we also added the rosemeric acid plants, your sage and rosemary to the cataract macular degeneration liquid that you take by mouth, it's not anything you put in the eye. But that's based on science, which was proven three times on Dr. Cooper's report, so I mean, you know, it's, plants are amazing, God made some amazing plants. He sure did, you know, what he was doing and, folks, you can get all of these herbs that Wendy's talking about by calling 866-229-3663, that's 866-229-3663.
And people always want to talk, listen, do you want to open the phone line and take maybe calls for maybe 10 or 15 minutes, because everybody always wants to talk to you. Yeah, we can do it for a little bit and we're running the sale, so it's 20% off, orders of $65 or more, and there's a coupon code on the homepage, lucky25, you could use that also over the phone, so if you're thinking about immune support, detoxing, metabolic strengthening, this is a good time, because you'll save 20%. All right, we're going to open the phone lines, folks, we have a new number tonight, because it was either errant or style broke the old number, no, only kidding, but we do have a new number tonight, 866-525-0955, 866-525-0955, I'll tell you that one more time, I knew that there was something wrong when Cliff didn't call in, when Cliff didn't call in, it was over, I knew, something's wrong, 866-525-0955, that's the phone number, so if you have a question or comment, and I know you do, yeah, for Wendy, and we were struggling with that last night, weren't we, Stile?
Yeah, we had one line open, one line out, it was a very confusing time. Some people were texting me saying, I can't get through, I can't get through, and so anyhow, but we can now at 866-525-0955, unless the gremlins get a hold of that number too, but yeah, you can call, go to the Power Herbs up on the internet, go to thepowerherbs.com, or call 866-229-3663, and especially get that formula, now I had that memory formula that you were talking about, but I think I used it all up. Oh, we can send you some, I'll make myself a note to send you some tomorrow. Brain concentrate memory, that's what it was called, and so, yeah, I had the one ounce of bottle, but I'd like the bigger bottle.
It comes in different sizes, one, two, four, and eight ounce, the most popular size though roughly is the two ounce. Yep, alrighty, phone lines are open, 866-525, we're coming up to break 0955, 866-525-0955, Penny will take your calls for about ten minutes because she's got to get her beauty sleep, right? Sleep's important. And then we have a whole lot of, while they're doing that very quickly, a couple of things I wanted to, just, this is lightning rounds, the Democrats, you know, they're still, we're going to talk about that, they're still going after President Trump with Lawfare, they're bringing these judges out who are way out of their lines, way out of their authority, going after Trump, and I'm wondering if our so-called DOJ can start arresting some of these judges for what they're doing. Very quick, lightning round SpaceX, the rescue mission was scrubbed today, so those people, Biden left those astronauts out there, oh Lord, they've been up there for a long time. What a terrible thing here in Indiana, you've got a guy, he's one of those trans things, this guy is in prison, he's covered with tattoos, he's in prison for strangling his own little two-year-old daughter to death, a killer, and so, but now, he wants to become a woman now, and he wants to go to the women's prison, so he wants to get trans surgery, and they want, the state wants the taxpayers to pay for that in Indiana. If I was in Indiana and I was a taxpayer, I'd definitely let the Governor know no uncertain terms, but hang tight, we're going to be back right after this with a whole lot more, we'll take your calls, so don't go away, more to come. Thank you for listening to What's Right, What's Left, the voice of the Christian resistance. To support this ministry, head to WRWL.org, that's WRWL.org. Mail your donations to What's Right, What's Left Ministries, 14781 Spearee Road, Newberry, Ohio, 44065. If you missed part of tonight's program, you can check out the podcast at thewordcleveland.com, thewordcleveland.com. Once again, thank you for listening and supporting What's Right, What's Left Ministries, the voice of the Christian resistance. Stay tuned, the second hour is coming up next.
