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The Bible warns that the sins of the fathers will visit the third and fourth generation, and a recent study from the University of Florida found that severe stress can be handed down in human DNA to a future generation. This phenomenon is known as epigenetic transmission of stress, where traumatic events can leave a lasting impact on the genome, affecting future generations. The study also found that stress-induced epigenetic changes can increase the risk of diseases such as diabetes, depression, and obesity. Additionally, the hosts discuss the potential risks of vaccines, including the COVID-19 vaccine, and the importance of considering alternative methods for staying healthy during a pandemic.

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That's right. And tonight, he's known to look like James Dean. But James Dean is older than I am, so think about that. Style is our producer.

I'm a little younger than James Dean. You heard the cackling, you heard the cackling. There's a reason for the cackling.

Listen. You've heard the song Fona Lisa, Fona Lisa. That's someone that's always under telephone.

And I thought that all of you should know this about Fona Lisa. And this is a true story. When her phone rings, it sounds like a rooster crowing. That's true.

Yes it does. The rooster crowing and The cackling, the cackling. And then that with us in the studio observing this kind of like a pillar of sanity.

Pastor Richard Lewis. Welcome, everyone. Glad to be here.

Good evening, everyone. And our special guest out there. We, you know, we always have Wendy Wednesdays. She lost today this week. So she's here today on Thursday.

Miss Wendy Wilson. Oh, good evening, Pastor. Good evening, Pastor Richard and Lisa. Hi there. You know, we'd like you just as much on Thursday as we do Wednesday. Did you know that?

I'm so glad to hear it. All right. You learn things like that here, right? I thought we were supposed to gain an hour on the ninth, not a whole day. We fell back a day, I guess, if you think it's Wednesday.

Yeah, well, it's different here. All right, we're going to get into our message tonight. The title of the message was, will we know each other in heaven and will we have our pets in heaven? So we're going to pick it up where we left off. Richard, would you read First John chapter three, verses one through three?

Certainly. Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us that we should be called the sons of God. Therefore, the world knoweth us not because it knew him not. Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be. But we know that when he shall appear, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is. And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. All right, so, but what manner of love the Father bestowed upon us that we should be called the sons of God?

Why are we called the sons of God? It's because we have been created in Christ Jesus. Okay, so, and to him we have become what? New creatures in him. When we call upon the name of the Lord and we become born again.

Born again. Yes. And we become new creatures, right? He goes on to say, therefore, the world knoweth us not. Boy, that's not true, right? Right.

The world really don't know us, what it knows about us it don't like, right? Right. Not at all, okay? We saw that here on, what was it, Wednesday or Tuesday night? No, Tuesday night with President Trump when they had that, was that Tuesday night? That was Tuesday night, right?

I believe so, yes. When they had the deathocrats there. I mean, they just really, the Trump derangement syndrome, what Trump said was, no matter what I do, they will hate me. And they hate him, okay, and they hate us. I've gotten, I get a lot of letters, I mean a whole lot of letters, Lisa knows that.

Yes. And most of them are positive, but the ones I get from the Democrats, I can't talk about on here. Well, you know, just side note as far as talking about what happened with Trump. You know, the Democrats obviously aren't supporting the people of this country. Well, no, the Democrats are supporting the Democrats. We're going to get into that tonight because we have a whole listing of the things that they're involved in.

This is why the U.S. Aids, the U.S. Aids, they were all getting a piece of the pie. It was all about getting rich, it's all about making money. And he goes on to say, Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be. Now, he's telling you right now, as he was speaking, it doesn't appear what we shall be now. But he goes on to say, but we know that when we shall appear, we shall be like him. Now, here's the key part.

This answers the question right here. For we shall see him as he is. So if we shall see him as he is and we shall be like him, then we shall see each other as we are. Because he makes the point, when he shall appear, we shall be like him. So if we're like him and then we see him as he is, then we'll see each other as we are, huh? Yes, when he appeared after the resurrection, they recognized him and he appeared as they knew him.

Well, as we go through this message, you're going to see a number of places where they recognized each other. Yes, yes. And so, and every man that have this hope in him purified himself even as he is pure, okay? Now, what's, you know, the word hope there, Richard, we use the word hope in a manner of non-insurance. You know, we talk about it, but here it's used as what? Assurance.

Assurance, yeah, we're assured that this will be. Okay, so now let me ask you this, because Richard, you're a pretty smart guy, okay? I've known you for a long time. Are we all going to, because a lot of theologians theorize that when we do appear, we will all appear at the age of 33, all of adults at the age, because we will appear as Christ appeared and he left this world at age 33, returned to the glorified body. And so, because I mean, look, I can tell you right now, I sure wouldn't want to go through eternity looking the way I do now.

I mean, I don't even want to go through next week looking like this, but especially through all of eternity, right? Well, yeah, you mentioned previous shows about us being known as we are known. And, you know, I always have taken that as if we've known somebody when we were young, then they will see us as when we were young. If we've known somebody as we're older, they will see us as we're older.

Well, that's got another application, too. It's like, you know, sometimes you think you know somebody, you know, there's people that you think you know, but you really don't know them, okay? And that's what Paul is making a point that this way we're going to really know each other, really know each other.

Like no secrets or things like that, that everything is going to be like transparent. And so, I mean, like there's a lot of good things about each of us that we don't know, okay? And so that's what it's referring to, too.

So it's got a couple applications. So then, well, let me ask you this then. When the children, we know there will be children in heaven because God loves children, right? Yes. So when the children, all of those babies when they died young, died as children, when they grow in heaven, now the Bible says, too, that one day with God is like a thousand years and a thousand years is one day. Now, here we're going to go into a period where there is no time.

Right. So are these children going to grow at the rate of like a one day that we have? Or is it going to be one day that's a thousand years since the end of time and then peak at the age of 33? Yeah, I've never looked at it that way. I've always looked at it as if a child would be, because there's no time no more, that means they won't age anymore.

So because that's how we count our years. So if then if they went to heaven as a child, that's how they would be. You think they stay children forever?

Yeah, that's the way I would understand it. I mean, there's no way of knowing until we get there. The scriptures don't really reveal that. But I don't I don't see that if the children are going to get older, then I mean, where did they stop at 33?

Because Christ died at 33. That's a theory. That's a theory where it says that we will be like him. Right. And so how is how is he going to appear? Well, they say he's going to appear like when he came back with a glorified body. So that was the age of 33.

But let's ask Wendy because she knows all about herbs and healthy things. OK. Hey, Wendy, are those children how long will the children grow at the rate of a day or of a thousand years is one day? Well, I would leave that up to the Lord, the Lord knows how I would say it. And I kind of think that the children probably will be raised up in the Millennial Kingdom to have their their test, you know. Well, the ones that go through the Millennial Kingdom, that's a very good point, because we know that the children will be.

But during the Millennial Kingdom, they will be growing at a normal rate. Right. Right. So it's a good question.

I don't know if they're going to be like in stasis until, you know, the church goes home. I don't know. That's a good question. I really don't know about that. You do know you'll be out of business. Right.

Because you have the. I look forward to it. Let me tell you, I really look forward to it. I do have a question, though. I do have a question. So when the faithful in Christ get their spiritual bodies.

OK. Do any of the wicked that we knew see us at all or are we so separated they don't see that? Well, let's take a look at Luke chapter 16. OK. And, Richard, would you go to Luke chapter 16 and we'll start with verse 19 and read 19 through 31. Therefore was a certain rich man which was clothed in purple and fine linen and fared sumptuously every day. And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate full of sores and desire to be fed with the crumbs which fell from his table.

Moreover, the dogs came and licked his sores. And it came to pass that the beggar died and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom. The rich man also died and was buried. And in hell he lifted up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off and Lazarus in his bosom, and he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am tormented in this flame. But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receiveth thy good things and likewise Lazarus evil things. But now he is comforted and thou art tormented.

And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot, neither can they pass to us that would come from thence. Then he said, I pray thee therefore, Father, that thou would send him to my father's house, for I have five brethren that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets, let them hear them. And he said, Nay, Father Abraham, but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. And he said unto them, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded the one rose from the dead.

Okay, so now here there's a couple of interesting things. One, that we know that this is unlike the other parables, okay, because there's no other parable that actually mentions the people's names by name, okay. All the other parable they refer to as a rich man or as a servant or this and that. And so, here the fact that he mentions this man's name, Lazarus, okay.

And then there's another thing, too. And you had in Hades, you had before the Lord Jesus Christ, the risen Christ arose and the graves were open and people ascended. There was like a separate compartment in what was called the Great Pit, you know, instead of called Hades, it was called Abraham's bosom, okay. And where the Old Testament saints stayed waiting for the Lord Jesus Christ to ascend into heaven.

The faithful of the Old Testament, yeah. And so here, now at that point, see, even though there was a great gulf, here the rich man could look past and he would recognize Abraham and he recognized Lazarus. So he was making a point there, okay, that first of all, what did rich man and Abraham both have in common? There was something they had in common. They were both very wealthy. They were both very wealthy. Now the difference was what they did with their wealth. You know, Abraham took care and he provided for the poor and the needy. The rich man thought about the rich man, right? Right. Kind of like what we have, what we saw the other Tuesday night, those people there, those people that you saw, we'll take, we're going to get into that later in the program here, okay.

How they've been ripping off, this is why they're so afraid of this U.S. AIDS thing, it's all going to come out, the kickbacks they were getting and they're scared to death. But anyhow, so here now, when you see that, Abraham tells him, no, there's a great void between us, okay, and it's kind of too late, isn't it? So the question, would this be the rich man in torment before his final judgment in the lake of fire?

Is that what that is then? Well, he's awaiting, yeah, that. He's awaiting the final judgment in the lake of fire. And we don't have any idea after the church returns to heaven and the rapture, we don't have any idea of that time frame, do we, when, you know, that judgment will happen, right? It'll happen right at the end of the tribulation period when, here, well, not actually at the end of the tribulation period.

Yeah, it will be right in that area. He's going to be loosed another thousand years. Yeah, the wrath of God has been poured out.

Yes, after the wrath of God has been poured out, that's when it's going to take place. Excuse me, and I think, didn't you say that we don't have to be tormented seeing the unsafe friends and relatives be tormented now? Every tear will be wiped away, we won't have, I mean, how could it be heaven if you knew that your relatives down there were burning in hell, right? So that, you'll have knowledge only of what God gives us knowledge of. Yeah, one thing to note there, Wendy, as far as that account goes, or parable, however you look at it, this man that's in torments is saying, as far as he's concerned, he knows there's no way out, but he says, go to my household and tell my brothers, because he doesn't want them to come to the same place. And so if we have loved ones that ended up not going to heaven, then as far as they're concerned, if they've ended up in hell, their desire is not to have you follow them. Well, absolutely, here, but you see, the point that he was made, he said, but if one arrives from the dead, if one comes from the dead, then they'll believe, and at that point, Abraham said, no, no, they're not going to believe, because the Lord Jesus himself rose from the dead, and they didn't believe on him, did they?

Right, and he says if they do not hear Moses and the prophets, and that's what Paul was talking about in the book of Acts, is proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that Jesus is the Christ, and so if they don't believe what the Old Testament says about who Jesus is, they're not going to believe Jesus, even knowing that he rose from the dead. That's one stiff-necked people, isn't it? Well, you know, you say that, but you know what Pastor Sanders was saying about the Democrats here, how stiff-necked they are, they wouldn't even stand for the good things that Trump was saying.

They're so stiff-necked against Trump that they don't even support the American people on the good things that maybe politically would be the same. Speaking of politically, here in Ohio, we have our own deep state. In fact, Tuesday, we're going to be doing a program on Ohio's deep state, and we need a doge in Ohio. But one of the reasons, of course, is something that we had on time and time again, and that was election fraud in Ohio, and there's a fellow that's kind of upset a little bit with our Secretary of State here because, well, he doesn't think he's doing a good enough job when it comes to this election fraud and voter ID, so take it away, Stile.

If it'll play for me, I would. Give me one minute to re-edit. We're going to go edit. This fellow wrote a song. It's about Frank LaRose. Well, Frank's got a grin and a suit so fine, standing at the podium towing the line, he says, oh, how's rolls are clean as can be, no duplicates here, just trust in me. But the wind's whispering through the buckeye trees, a tale of voters that ain't what they seem. Oh, Frank, why'd you spin that tale so tall?

Thousands of duplicates, dead folks and all. The rolls ain't clean, though you swear they are. You're strumming a lie on this old guitar.

Ohio's got those folding left and right. Frank, your secret's slipping out tonight. There's Mary Jane passed in 93, still casting a ballot like she's free. John Doe's name's there 10 times or more, registered twice at the same front door. Frank shrugs it off, says nothing to see, but the numbers don't lie and neither do we. Oh, Frank, why'd you spin that tale so tall?

Thousands of duplicates, dead folks and all. The rolls ain't clean, though you swear they are. You're strumming a lie on this old guitar.

Ohio's got those folding left and right. Frank, your secret's slipping out tonight. The folks in the towns, they're starting to talk about names on the list.

The shouldn't walk, a graveyard vote, and a double dip. Frank's smooth words are losing their grip. The truth's riding hard like a midnight train. No covering up this photo roll stain. Oh, Frank, why'd you spin that tale so tall?

Thousands of duplicates, dead folks and all. The rolls ain't clean, though you swear they are. You're strumming a lie on this old guitar.

Ohio's got those folding left and right. Frank, your secret's slipping out tonight. So here's Frank with his head held high, selling us all that sweet Ohio lie. But the truth rolls on like a country tune. Dead voters dancing beneath the moon. Frank, your song's about to fade away. Ohio's mess is here to stay.

All righty. We're back. Frank, I hope you heard that, because there's a whole lot of us think that we should do a better job, because we just have too many dead people voting, right? And, you know, we got too many dead people on the Social Security list. In fact, in our next newsletter, one of them's over 300 years old, and they're still getting checks, right? And this is why the deep state is so worried.

Well, that's what they're so worried about. That is what, believe me, we're going to go through some of this stuff tonight, but I got to tell you this real quickly. Bringing America back to life, and that's tomorrow and Saturday, Friday and Saturday, at the Embassy Suites, right down the road from where we're at right now. 5800 Rockside Road, and tomorrow, I will be there, starts about 8 o'clock in the morning, goes till about 9 o'clock at night, and tomorrow I'm going to be walking around there early in the morning, and the first 10 people that come up and say, keep fighting the fight, I've got one of these pins, and the pin has got a light on it, and it's got a style on it, I mean the lights are really nice and bright, it's like a little flashlight, on the other end it's got a style, and guess what else, it's got ink in it, and you can write with this thing too. Anyhow, and it's got our name and address right on the pin, with our phone number, so you can call me, and so I'll be, for the first 10 people that come up and say, keep fighting the fight, there you go. And then, Monday, March 10th, the great, the Jughead County Tea Party was going to be meeting at 8200 Cedar Road in Chesterland, and Ann McDougall from the Turning Point USA will be there speaking about how we can activate the youth. And then also, Dane Davies, boy, he's going to be talking about what we've just been talking about, where our money is going, what they're spending money on things on, so that's Monday, March 10th, Jughead County Tea Party, 8200 Cedar Road in Chesterland, and Lawrence Willie and I will be there, I always open it up.

So, with that, Miss Wendy Wilson, tell us what is on Wendy's mind. Well, we kind of live in interesting times, I think you would agree, and there's lots of drama and trauma going around, and I came across this report, this is the University of Florida, they did a study on genetic transmission of stress. So, in Scripture, doesn't it state that the sins of the fathers will visit to the third and fourth generation? Well, it says for those that don't love the Lord, that hate God, for those that hate God, but that doesn't apply to everybody, just those that hate God. Well, it's kind of a warning that we should avoid repeating sins of the previous generation, right?

Absolutely. Yeah, so it's kind of a warning there, so this is an interesting phenomenon, it's a case where something we can't see, but apparently science was able to reveal. So, February 2025, University of Florida published research, it was in the February Journal of the Scientific Reports, and they were talking about how severe stress can be handed down in human DNA to a future generation. So the study is said to be the first of its kind to trace what they call epigenetic signatures of violence being passed down to grandchildren. There is something to this, actually, as King David was really not permitted to build God's temple, was he? Because he was described as a man of war, but he was permitted to make provisions for the temple, and his son Solomon built it, so violence can put a spiritual mark on a person. So the study did talk about this 1982 besiege of the city of Hama by the Syrian government, so it's not unusual for traumatic events to be bone deep, creating some hateful memories.

So this is why the Old Testament Israel was instructed to really dispatch those that dwelt unpeaceably and were violent pagans for the future generations would rise up and seek vengeance, so there was a reason God said, you know, everybody has to go. But in the study with Florida, they said the hidden deep in the genes of Sumerian families were genetic transmissions of stress across generations, so the grandchildren of women who were pregnant during the siege, these grandchildren who never experienced this violence themselves nonetheless bear marks of it in their geomes, it was passed down through their mothers, and this genetic imprint offers the first human evidence of a phenomenon previously only documented in animals. They wanted to say the idea that trauma and violence can have repercussions into future generations should help people be more empathetic and help policymakers pay more attention to the problems of violence.

So I found that they talked about these tag markers, so how do we create these markers, so it's on the DNA similar to what appears on maybe bones, like when they investigate bones and someone had a serious illness or they had malnutrition, it would show up as markers in the bones, but emotional trauma and stress is showing up in the DNA, so according to the research, when we experience a stressful trauma or a life-threatening event, the cells add small chemical tags to the genes, so science is really not sure what the tags are meant to do, but they hypothesize that the tags may be used to calm us in stressful situations or alter our behavior as a self-defense strategy or to part or for us to adapt to the stress. So the research also followed three generations of the Cimmerian immigrants, and some families lived through the Hama attack before fleeing to Jordan. Other families experienced the civil war involving the Assad regime. The researchers collected DNA samples from 138 people across 48 families from grandmothers and mothers who were pregnant during the events and also their children. The generation showed they experienced violence at different stages of development, and the control group was a group of families that immigrated to Jordan prior to 1980 and didn't experience any years of violence in Syria. According to Professor Connie Milligan, Anthropology and Genetics at the University of Florida, she said in the grandchildren of Hama survivors, the researchers discovered 14 areas in the genome that had been modified in response to violence that their grandmothers experienced. These 14 modifications demonstrate stress-induced epigenetic changes may indeed appear in future generations.

She continued the study also uncovered 21 epigenetic alters in the genes of people who had directly experienced the violence in Syria. In a third finding, the researchers reported that people exposed to violence while in their mother's womb showed evidence of accelerated epigenetic aging, a type of biological aging that may be associated with susceptibility to age-related disease. So they said most of these epigenetic changes showed the same pattern after exposure to violence, suggesting a kind of common epigenetic response to stress, and one that can affect people directly exposed to stress but also future generations. So Professor Milligan says the stress markers can be applied to post-traumatic stress disorder, the military folks, and also domestic violence and sexual assault and any type of violence, even violence of proxy, like through a third party, you're affected by it and it shows up in the genome. Now, I wanted to touch on markers of disease because, according to the research, stress markers via violence can produce negative health risks, and there is also these links, they say, to disease. So the stress-induced epigenetic changes we experience can increase the risk of things like diabetes, depression, obesity, and other types of conditions. Therefore, science believes the violence and war can be stamped onto the DNA to affect also future generations, and according to this January 2013 report in the National Library of Medicine Center for Biotechnology, after World War II, there was an increase in certain diseases in American population, and one disease in particular was polio.

I think that was an interesting correlation. So we got markers, and we need to pay attention to markers, emotional and physical ones. The body is an amazing creation, so these epigenetic DNA markers seem to be a sign of shock absorbers, really.

A person has gone through something on the road of life, so you're coming away with some wear and tear. And to help the body rebound, there's some certain nutritional elements that we can always apply, because the Bible encouraged to use herbs for the healing and the service of man, so I encourage people to pay attention to that as well. Let me ask you this, because I've wondered about this, because I've heard a number of times that things that women experience while they're pregnant, especially in the later stages of the pregnancy, affects the babies. In other words, when you were pregnant, did anything ever happen like you experienced anything where you knew for certain there was a response from the child in the womb?

Nothing comes to mind. I know I had an abscessed tooth during one of my pregnancies, and fortunately, the abscessed tooth decided to drain, so when you have an abscess and you're pregnant, they can't do anything about it. They have to wait until you're pregnant to address it, so fortunately the infection was draining.

It was kind of a foul taste in the mouth, but at least it wasn't fostering underneath. So once the baby was delivered, I had to have that taken care of, but other than that, I can't think of anything. When I was pregnant, you heard all these things about women going and putting headphones on their stomach so the baby can listen to Mozart and maybe grow up to be a musician and all that. I don't know if any of that influenced babies to be musicians or anything, but I can see, though, you can see it in animals, too, like when stray mothers of dogs, let's say, are pregnant and they don't have enough to eat, it can affect the children, obviously, or the puppies, obviously, what they have. They may be malnourished. I've seen it where if there's not enough nutrition, the dogs can be born without their tails.

There just wasn't enough protein to build a tail. Well, there's a lot on pregnancy on women that, while they're carrying the baby, what influence is on the child. One gynecologist put it to me this way, Pastor Lewis, when a woman's pregnant, metabolically, she's climbing a mountain, she's rock climbing. And she could just be laying on the sofa, but metabolically, her body's working so hard to build this person, it's like she's exerting so much energy and stress to climb a mountain.

So I thought that was interesting. Let's say a woman is stressed, there's a war, and she's pregnant. Can you imagine the stress on that whole system of hers and even the baby?

Absolutely. I've read a lot on different things that happens with the baby in the womb. I know my son, on his first child, he would lay on his wife's belly and talk to the baby.

It's funny because when Zephaniah was in the delivery room, when the baby was born, they took the baby over to measure him and weigh him and everything. And Tommy came in the room and said something, and as soon as he said something, the baby lifted up its head and looked. Just a born baby, and normally they don't lift their head or anything, but the baby looked and recognized the voice.

Right. Yeah, I've seen that, especially when babies are infants and the mother can call the baby's name and the baby will turn its head towards the mother's voice. Yeah, I've seen that. But that's impressive that in the womb, the father's voice, the baby recognized the voice. It's not clear as a bell when you're hearing something through amniotic fluid and a bunch of tissue. It's got to be muffled. My mother had enough to eat when she was carrying me, but I was born without a tail too.

Must be nice. I just thought I'd share that with you. TMI, I think we have with that one. Well, I should bring up the point also that, you know, for years and decades, decades, decades, the medical textbooks said absolutely do not vaccinate a pregnant woman because they weren't sure what would happen to the fetus.

And then all that changed. So if they're injecting mutated viruses, because during a process of making a viral vaccine, it mutates the virus so that it's the process that mutates it. So injecting mutated vaccines into mom is definitely going to impact baby. And that's got to be a huge stressor. And there's got to be I wish they would do a research and see if there's more. Well, there's been studies on that that suggests that that has to do with sudden death.

Yeah, yeah. But there's got to be markers on the genome from that, you know, just like, you know, trauma and violence. It's got to be this, you know, it's an attack. It's, you know, it's a pathogen.

So there's got to be a marker there. So even if, you know, they're all top thing, you know, babies that didn't make it, it's probably right there in the DNA. I think I agree with Gandhi on vaccines. Stay away from them altogether.

You know, Gandhi said there was nothing good about any of them. Well, Dr. Anthony Norris, the former chief virologist of the FDA, when I talked to him, he called it an artificial infection. Why would a vaccine that's supposed to help your antibodies in your immune system keep you safe, why would he call it that?

So I had to ask him, why are you calling it that? He says, because vaccines are not what we're told they are. So he had access to all the raw clinical data at the FDA when he was there in the 70s. And there wasn't any evidence whatsoever that proves what they said about vaccines, helping your immune system create immunity. It does the opposite. He says it feeds the body with disease. And I'm like, I was trying to wrap my brain around it.

And I was in my 30s, I had young kids, I was just like, what? And he says, if you get any antibody defense from a vaccine, it's fleeting at best a few weeks, maybe. And I'm like, so that's why they give boosters, right? He goes, no, that's not the reason you get boosters. He says, they give you boosters because if they gave you all the serum in one shot, it's so toxic it would kill you.

Well, not only that, but the more boosters they give you, the more money Big Pharma makes. Well, and the thing is, he told me, a lot of people's metabolic systems were kind of different. DNA-wise, we're different.

We are humans, but we're slightly different. He says, so metabolically, these artificial infections will impact you negatively in your weakest DNA link. So if you've got pulmonary problems, you're going to have lung problems.

If it's blood problems, you'll have blood problems and bone and so forth. So I thought that was fascinating. I said, so that's why drug companies are saying that it can't cause autism or it can't cause Tourette's or any of these other problems, or everybody would have that. He said, exactly. That's what the excuse they hide behind, but they know genetically it's going to corrupt people in their weakest genetic area. So that's why people have different problems. And he said there also could be delays.

So some people don't have an obvious reaction right away. It could be years. And he says, that's why I'm telling you, it feeds the body with disease and it keeps the drug companies and the vaccine industry in a steady line of patients. Well, I know this so-called, you know, the COVID vaccine or the kill shot we call it was responsible for a lot of miscarriages. And here we are five years from the release of those vaccines. And didn't the frontline doctors say within two to five years? Yeah, that's exactly what they said within two to five years.

You're going to see it in five years. Well, talking about the vaccines, my wife went through nursing school and she had a series of vaccinations, which was required, you know, in nursing as an RN and ended up with two deaf babies because of it. Well, there's a couple of babies in heaven that we know of right there. Oh, he didn't say dead. He said deaf. And both of them, what happened was at about 18 months, the nerve dissolved between the brain and the ear.

They have perfect ears, but there's no connection between the ear and the brain. Yeah, right. And, you know, I got a call recently that a guy was calling for a friend of his who got the COVID shot and I think in just a few days went blind.

And so here's a guy who wasn't even near retirement, is now in a nursing home. And then one of the eyes they wound up having to remove. Good grief. We had that Jewish lady, the gynecologist on her, she was a liberal, but she said that that shot was that her young patients were bleeding to death. And she said, you know, so, and of course, some snake benoms do that.

Some snake benoms will do hemorrhage and some will make you clot. And then the blood clots that they get with the vaccine, you know, the COVID. Yeah. I mean, I wonder about these people that, you know, died from this thing and, you know, you know, what are they thinking in heaven? You know, shouldn't have taken that shot.

Yeah. Well, you know, we tried to warn people about that shot. We really, really, really did warn people.

We sent out newsletters and I talked to several people and even, even relatives of mine I talked to. And, you know, my sister told me, she says, honey, my older sister, she said, I trust my doctor. I said, I wouldn't if I were you. I said, because a lot of people, these doctors really don't know what's in these things. They're just doing what they're told to do. Okay.

And a lot of the doctors get kickbacks for prescribing certain medications. But she took the first shot. It almost killed her. And she called me. She says, I'm going to listen to you from now on. Okay. Good.

Yeah. Because we sent out, you know, newsletters to people. And I know I've told this story before, but I had one fellow call me and he told me that there were five siblings all within their fifties, you know, from 50 to 60. And they always did everything together. And, you know, they did everything together. They went, I think there were three women and two men or could have been three men and two women.

It was like that, two and three. But anyhow, he told me that he said, hey, listen, let's forget, because they wanted to all go together to get the shot. And he said, don't do it. Listen, they showed him my newsletter and they said, well, our doctors would not, you know, our doctors would let us know if there was a real problem, they would tell us.

And he said, no, I'm telling you, listen, don't do it. And they did. And all four of them died. Wow. All four of them.

They all went together and they got the shots at the same place and all four died. So there you go. Well, I'm thinking the nursing homes are making a killing, huh? Yeah. Well, you're not killing, literally making a killing.

Wow. Well, you know, over all together, over 20 million people could be attributed have died right to the kill shot. Well, the statistics came in around 2024 that it was the same in England as it was in America, that 60 percent of the population in the UK and the United States got at least one round of the COVID shot. That's 60 percent. So 40 percent of Americans didn't. And it was an interesting thing because I read this report and the 40 percent were looking at alternative ways to stay healthy during this pandemic. And that did not sit well with the powers that be, the health authorities, that 40 percent of people refused the shot and did something else. Yeah. Well, you know, the people that got usually got the first shot, you know, it's the ones that usually got the second shot or whatever.

But but although we had a couple prison inmates that that we warned them to same thing, they got to they got the shots and died two days later. So, OK, Wendy, we're coming up to a break. So I got to tell the folks, we got to hold you over.

So because we got to plug your we got to plug your stuff. Right. Yeah. But it'd be nice to mention, I mean, because herbs are here for the service of man and healing nations.

And so God can't lie. We should pay attention to that. Absolutely.

The apothecary herbs, the best products on the market. OK. And so we're going to be when we come back, we're going to talk about and I need to order some stuff, too, from you. Oh, OK. Well, you said ship something out tomorrow already. OK. I don't want Lisa knowing what I'm ordering, so I'll tell you off the air.

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