What's that sound? That's the sound of Downy Unstoppable's scent beads going into your washing machine and giving your clothes freshness that lasts all day long.
There it is again. It's like music to your ears. Or more like music to your nose. That freshness is irresistible. Let's get a Downy Unstoppable's bottle shake. And now a sniff solo. Nice.
With Downy Unstoppable, you just toss, wash, wow, for all day freshness. Coming to you live from Independence, Ohio. You change your life for the better in many different ways. Heard around the world every Monday through Friday. Pastor Sanders is always years ahead of the rest of the media telling you exactly what they're covering up.
This is What's Right, What's Left. I tune in every chance I get to hear exactly what's going on with the voice of the Christian Resistance. Unabashedly cutting through the rhetoric by exposing the hard topics facing our society and world.
A lot of the other news medias don't pick up the news items like he does. And bringing to light the enemies of freedom who are out to steal your rights, your children, and enslaving you. You really get the truth out. I can tune into your show and hear the unvarnished truth.
Thank you. This is What's Right, What's Left with Pastor Ernie Sanders. Good evening and welcome to another edition of What's Right, What's Left.
The voice of the Christian Resistance on this 25th day of February 2025. And tonight my producer is a young man who is very wise. Much wiser than most of those his age. None other than style. Hey, how are you, Pastor?
Okay, young man. Now, my guest tonight, he is an author, a blogger, and a businessman. He's based out of St. Augustine, Florida. He's a Princeton graduate. Had a long career as a business executive steering communications campaign for some of America's biggest companies. He is now dedicated to his writing and to maintaining his political bog, the forgotten street.
None other than the author of some really good dynamite books called Betrayal Have Bethesda I, II, and III, J.C. Hawkins. Hey, J.C. Hey, Pastor Sanders. Great to be on your show. I greatly appreciate it. Well, you know, you were supposed to autograph the book. Now, you did write your name, you did autograph it, but above it was blank. And you were supposed to write in there to the greatest radio pastor ever and my hero, Pastor Ernie Sanders. But you didn't write that in there.
Name on me. Well, I went ahead and did it for you. So, there you go.
Oh, that was good. I appreciate that. All right.
You know what? We've got to start off. We have some serious prayer requests.
I'm asking all the folks out there to join me out there listening from coast to coast because God's Word of the Bible is pretty clear. Much prayer, much power. Little prayer, little power. No prayer, no power. And we have some folks out there that need prayer. And every one of you, every one of you, either now or at some point, will need prayer.
So, remember that those who show mercy receive it. Let's go. I want to pray for Pastor Paul Rowe. He had surgery on his hip today and it didn't go very well for him. Unfortunately, Brother Rowe, a godly, a good, strong, godly pastor, has a bad infection. And so, and Ron, well, John Riscoe, John Riscoe was an 82-year-old man who has gotten himself in a lot of trouble. He slipped, fell, broke his legs, just got, broke a lot of things and he's in a nursing home right now, not doing too well. And then Ron and Barb, Ron, as you know, who was one of my co-hosts there for a long time here on Friday nights, him and his Mrs. Barb, they both are down with a bad case of the flu.
Ron's got that real bad strain of flu, too. And then Eric out there, one of Pastor's mighty men who always comes in to help when Pledge Week, he's down, he's out with the flu, too. So, let's pray. Heavenly Father, Lord God, I just want to hold Pastor Rowe, John Riscoe, Ron and Barb and Eric all up to you right now, Father God. And as the people across the country agree with me in this prayer, Lord God, that you might touch them, restore them, touch them, restore them, turn their desires towards you more and more every day in every way, and then use them in a mighty way to your glory, Father. That is our prayer. And for all of those listening to us out there tonight, that you would turn their desires, each and every one, to you more and more every day in every way. This we ask in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen.
Okay. Well, the title of the message, J.C., was be aware of the devil's devices. Be aware of the devil's devices. And I looked up the definitions of device, and here are some of the definitions, a scheme to deceive, something contrived, a conventional stage, a practice or a means, a piece of equipment or mechanism designed to serve a special service. So we're going to take a look because we've been preaching on the devil's devices, and we see these devices used. Now, the reason I preached on that is I've noticed that's been in the news quite recently. All of the new devices, the left is coming out with trying to, you know, they've come up now where they're trying to... Well, let me see.
I made some notes, okay? They are out there, the Democratic Communist mob, they're doxing. They're doxing ICE agents. Now, you know, when you do that, they're putting their names, their addresses where they live. This gives the drug cartels a great, great ability to set up ambushes and kill these people.
These are ICE agents, okay? And Kristi Noem says that she's going to go after those people. She's going to go after those Democrats. And so in response to this, the Democrats have come out and said that instead of, you know, they're not listening, they're not hearing the people, okay? Instead of saying, you know, the people, you know, they spoke, they're tired of all of this. They're tired of woke. They're tired of this men and women sports and all the pedophilia and everything the entire Democratic Communist Party promotes. So what is their answer, okay?
Because now here they said, in other words, in order to... If they're going to win any more elections, then they're going to have to become more ruthless. In other words, they're going to have to become more stupid than they are.
In fact, here it's an interesting thing. You have this one Congresswoman, Texas Representative Jasmine Crockett. And she said, she's one of the view co-hosts, she said Wednesday that the President Trump has his record high approval ratings because the Americans are not educated and the voters are stupid. They're not too stupid, okay? Well, I would have to say, Jasmine, that your election is undeniable proof of stupid voters. No kidding.
For sure. But anyhow, so I said all that because it's all the different devices that the left said they're going to use, okay, to destroy our country. Now you not only have Trump's arrangement, but now you have Musk's arrangement and Doge's arrangement. And so we're going to pick it up where we left off and that's in Psalm chapter 21. Psalm 21, verses 1-13. And the king shall join the strength, O Lord, and in the salvation how greatly shall he rejoice. Thou hast given him the heart's desire. Thou hast withholden the request of his lips, Selah. Now, here, J.C., this is a psalm of David and he goes on to say, for thou preventest him. Well, actually that word in the Hebrew is the same word that we use. And it's, we use it meteth, means for meteth, for thou meteth him with the blessings of goodness. Thou sets a crown of pure gold on his head.
Now, here in this next verse, actually it's got two applications here. The psalm written by King David has the king as a subject, but it can be applied to King David only in a secondary sense because the primary fulfillment is the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords. And you have that because he says, he asked of thee and thou gavest him even length of days forever and ever. And of course that applied to the Lord Jesus himself. His glory is great in thy salvation. Honor and majesty has thou laid upon him obviously primary for the Lord Jesus Christ.
And then secondary, King David. For thou hast made him most blessed forever. Thou hast made him exceedingly glad with thy countenance. For the king trustest in the Lord, and through the mercy of the Most High, he shall not be moved. Thine hand shall find out all thine enemies. Now here, kind of listen to this because, you know, I heard Trump say today that he was saying for four years, four years you people have come after me in the news media every way that you can imagine you've come after me.
You've come after me. Okay. So don't talk to me or tell me about, because he's saying how these news talking heads out there, these reporters were saying that you're his policies. Doesn't this policy take away the rights of some people or infringe on the rights? And Trump responded back, don't tell me about taking away my rights for four years and then four years before that.
Okay. You try to take away my rights, you try to put me in jail. And so he goes on here and it says, thine hand shall find out all thine enemies and thy right hand shall find out those that hate thee. They just announced today, J.C., that the FBI now is investigating Jim Comey, you know, what Jim Comey did, that whole thing. What he did, he played the part and, well, it was Hillary Clinton whose dirty fake conspiracy campaign, she wrote that whole thing about the Russia, Russia, Russia stuff. That was all Hillary and Comey, he, like a loyal soldier, carried out her will on that. Now, Comey has been going around trying to get on all the talk shows, trying to write a book and saying he's afraid Trump's going to come after him.
He's afraid Trump's going to come after him. Do you know, J.C., if Comey was one of those that got a pardon from Biden? I don't think he did.
He may have. But part of the whole granting of the preemptive pardons, as they call them, is in order for it to be effective, you have to accept it. And accepting a pardon before you're even charged with a crime is an admission of guilt. So I don't know how many of the preemptive pardon people actually accepted them.
This is my understanding. First, they have to indict you. The Justice Department has to indict you on that. And then you have to plead, like you said, guilty. And then you have to go before a judge and plead guilty.
But then, from that point on, you don't have any more Fifth Amendment rights. And so here, remember Bill Clinton, he was going out there on all the talk shows telling people that if anyone should get a pardon, it should be Hillary. She should get a pardon. Now, like you said, she has to admit her guilt. Can you imagine what she is guilty of, to admit? Well, I'll tell you what, for Bill to go out and say all that, he's more or less saying, you know, hey, she's guilty as the devil.
Yeah. Well, he actually said, well, if anyone should get a pardon, it should be Hillary. But she hasn't committed a crime, but she should get a pardon. Well, you know, in other words, she hasn't been convicted yet. She hasn't been caught.
But she has committed, I mean, she's committed, I don't know how many murders, how many people have been murdered because of Hillary. We go on to say, in verse 9, thou should make them as a fiery oven in the time of thine anger. The Lord shall swallow them up in his wrath, and the fire shall devour them. Their fruit shall thou destroy from the earth, and their seed from among the children of men, for they intended evil against thee. They imagined mischievous devices which they are not able to perform. Therefore shalt thou make them turn their, oh, here's a good one now, therefore shalt thou make them turn their back, when thou shalt make ready thine arrows upon the strings against the face of them.
In other words, he's saying, God's going to send them delusion. They're going to do stupid things. They're going to do the wrong things, huh?
Absolutely, yeah. Boy, are we seeing that or not? I just read that from that Janine Crockett, who wants to run for Congress. Well, I'm going to tell you, one way of not getting a lot of votes is calling the voters stupid, right? I'm not sure she's from Texas and the district she's from. It may be in Houston or Dallas area, in a predominantly black area, where she can pretty much get away with saying all the crazy stuff she wants and she'd still get voted in. Well, for the most part, but remember right there at the Bronx in New York, that didn't work very well for there.
AOC, the Nacasio Corp, whatever, she just barely won, okay? And that's another thing that they're going to be really taking a close look at is all the election and the voter fraud. For they intended evil against thee. They imagined mischievous devices which they are not able to perform. Therefore shall they make them turn their back when they shall make ready thine arrows upon the strings against the face of them. Be thou exalted, Lord, in thine own strength. So will he sing and praise the power.
So the Bible says, touch not mine anointed. And what Donald Trump has been able to accomplish is more than proof that God has raised him up for this time. I think he needs to, one of the things, if I was giving him advice, one of the first things I would tell him is to stay as far away from Paula White as he can stay. From Paula White, okay? I just can't believe that he's allowed her to be his so-called pastor because I think there's more to it than that.
Donald Trump's a smart man. In my opinion, I don't know if you're familiar with Paula White. I know a little bit about her, but I must admit what little I know, I was somewhat surprised by that selection. Well, she, I would refer to her as an unclean apostate woman, okay? You know, she's shacked up with different men, been married through three times. First of all, the Bible's very, very clear, women are not to pastor churches, and she totally disregards the word of God.
She referred to the Apostle Paul as pathetic. She prances across the stage, I was watching her, and she said, I have hips and I have lips. I know how to work these lips, I know how to work these hips, okay? And there was an esoteric message in that. And then she came out wearing a dress like a long dress, and she said, I know you all want to see me in my miniskirt again.
And by the way, she was wearing a miniskirt probably six, seven inches above her knees, okay, when she was doing the prancing. This is not, you know, the kind of woman. Now, let me ask you about this, okay? Donald Trump is a very smart man. He's had his situations with Stormy Daniels and a number of other women, you know, it's just like Judge Roy, who, you know, they had all these women come out making these false accusations. Stormy Daniels said four different times that Donald Trump and her had no relations at all until they offered her big bucks, until the big, big bucks came along, and then she sold out, okay?
But here's the thing. Trump knows the old saying, a woman scorned. Now, Paula White has wanted to be his pastor.
I had one of the ladies as a listener sent me pictures. I don't know how she got the pictures, but it was in the White House. And Trump was sitting at his desk, and Paula White was bending over with, you know, with her hands spread across the desk, and it looked like she was about ready to fall right out of her dress. Here, if you are Trump and, you know, you've got this woman here, and she wants to be known, she wants the publicity, and, you know, if you get her angry at you, she's just liable to accuse you, you know, like all the rest have done, what would you do? Would you play along with her? Well, you know, it almost makes you wonder if this is some kind of a setup, that somehow he's been convinced that having her involved in that office of faith is a good thing, but maybe this is a deep state ploy.
It might be, yeah. She could be real trouble. Well, yeah, she could be real trouble, but he, this is like what I believe, just my opinion, that he's very well aware that if he wants to pacify her, she won't make any false accusations or anything like that, but he knows if he gets her angry, she might, because those women will do that.
I mean, that's just my opinion. I don't know that that could be the fact, but he's got to be smart enough. Look, he's already known what's happened, you know. He's been set up before so many times, and so he should be better. I know that he's gotten a lot, a lot of mail from different people telling him to stay, you know, to keep his distance from her as far away as he could, and that would be my advice to him.
That woman can be trouble, but anyhow, that's what the Bible talks about, refers to stay away, keep your distance from strange, strange women, and boy, she's a strange woman. And so, but anyhow, we're gonna go, we're gonna be back right after this, so we'll be right back. There's a cancer cult crime in our cities And an unspoken fear We're on our way down We must take America back Put an end to the gangs and the drugs and the streets And the fact that the bad guys most always go free, that is wrong We need leaders who lead us, not stick us and bleed us And take all our money and send it abroad We must take America back We need prayer in the schools and more things made in USA It's the least we can do for the red, white, and blue We must take America back It's a hell here on earth In some city school yards When bullets and birth control outnumber, book something wrong There's a hunger for good news and heroes But good news is no news So all of the heroes are gone We must take America back Put an end to the gangs and the drugs and the streets And the fact that the bad guys most always go free, that is wrong We need leaders who lead us, not stick us and bleed us And take all our money and send it abroad We must take America back We need prayer in the schools and more things made in USA It's the least we can do for the red, white, and blue We must take America back We must take America back Put an end to the gangs and the drugs and the streets And the fact that the bad guys most always go free, that is wrong We need leaders who lead us, not stick us and bleed us And take all our money and send it abroad We must take America back We need prayer in the schools and more things made in USA It's the least we can do for the red, white, and blue We must take America back We must take America back We must take America back There were seven surgeons that came out and now that all the people, most of the people that were involved in the CIA and the cover-up with Kennedy's death have come out and said how he was shot from the front and the whole story up through his throat and the bullet came out from the back of his head Apparently there was another shot, and they were told by the Secret Service, the CIA, that if they ever opened their mouth they'd wish they hadn't, that they were in danger or they had to keep quiet or they wished they hadn't So, I don't know, did you hear about that? I hadn't heard that, that was today Yeah, that was on the news today Well, I'm not surprised because, as you know, in my books I've written extensively about the Kennedy assassination and one thing I've learned in any of these shootings is the wounds always tell the story Yeah And how you examine the wounds, that tells you primarily the bullets, what direction they came from, what angle they came from, and a good forensic pathologist would be able to figure this out fairly easily Well, they did, but they were told they'd better be quiet about it, and we're going to go in tonight and as you start telling us about the intertwined fates of James Forrestal, Joseph McCarthy, and John F. Kennedy Now, I was very familiar with Joseph McCarthy and I met John F. Kennedy, but I knew of James Forrestal, but I wasn't that familiar with him, but all three of those had something very, very in common, didn't they? Yes, this is what got me started on writing my Betrayal of Bethesda, the first book, which was about the intertwined fates of James Forrestal, Joseph McCarthy, and John F. Kennedy I was interested in the whole Kennedy assassination, and then I read more about Kennedy's life, and I saw where he crossed paths with James Forrestal, who was a friend of his father, Joe And then, when Kennedy got out of the military in World War II out of the Navy, wound up getting elected to Congress, the same time that Joe McCarthy was elected to the Senate from Wisconsin So, all three of these men, Forrestal, McCarthy, and Kennedy, were Irish American Roman Catholics, and they became aligned politically, as well as developed close personal ties When Kennedy got out of the Navy, Forrestal became his mentor, and was even trying to get him to come to work for him at the Department of the Navy, but they developed a very close relationship, and Forrestal was a staunch anti-communist And that's where Kennedy got interested in being an anti-communist, and of course his father, Joe, was an anti-communist, and of course we all know McCarthy and his anti-communist feelings But what struck me the more I read about these men was that in a 14-year period, all died mysterious deaths, and their bodies all wound up in the same place, the morgue at the National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland Yeah, that would get my attention too. Yeah, go ahead, I'm sorry So, the established narrative at the time was that Forrestal was in the hospital at Bethesda, and he had been hospitalized for extreme exhaustion and mental exhaustion And one night he went out the 16th story window, and immediately the established narrative was he committed suicide And then there were so many flaws in that story, one of them was that his brother, Henry, was coming to pick him up the next day and take him home And Forrestal knew where a lot of the bodies were buried in Washington, from his time in the Navy and then being the first secretary of defense That kind of reminds me of the story with Vince Foster, who was supposedly committed suicide in his situation, he was going to have dinner with his sister And instead of having, you know, he didn't cancel or anything, he told his sister he was going to meet her for dinner, and then of course he ends up at Mercy Park Kind of reminds me of the same thing, go ahead, I'm sorry Well, there were very much similarities there, and interestingly enough, there's a guy in the DC area named Dave Martin Who has written two books, one on the assassination of James Forrestal, and the other on the murder of Vince Foster And he has heavily researched both of them, and to me those are the definitive histories on those two deaths And the extent he went to investigating them is just incredible, and those both, you know, are available on Amazon And Dave's a great guy, he's a retired economist from the federal government, and he got interested in writing history books Kind of shades of the former CIA director, the one who had sat down, had his meal, his dinner sitting on the table And he decided to go up, walk out and jump into the Potomac and drown himself, you know what I'm talking about Bill Colby Yeah, Colby, yeah, those things always seem to, well yeah, it's a Well, it's all part of the deep state, what I call the deep state mysterious death list And there are prominent figures throughout history going back over a century who died under strange circumstances And Joe McCarthy had gone into Bethesda hospital, he was having a problem with the knee And neuropathy in his knee, which was the result of an injury he suffered in World War II, when he was in the Marines And he goes into the hospital with neuropathy and suddenly develops acute hepatitis and dies And immediately the deep state establishes the narrative that he was cirrhosis and he had drank himself to death Well, I prove in my book that both those stories of Forrestal and McCarthy are completely false They were both murdered, and I even tell how it happened And then of course Kennedy, we know what happened to him, but what happened at Bethesda was they falsified the autopsy And came up with this ridiculous notion, you know, that he was all shot, three shots from behind and that was it Well, anyone who investigates will know there are a lot more bullets flying around than those three that day in Dallas Well, yeah, there's been so much, I remember watching, was it the Pruder films that they had I watched as the driver swung his right arm back, and he swung his right arm, I couldn't see if he had a gun in his hand But the way he swelled it right, and his hand was pointing right towards Kennedy's head, but of course that was after the first shot was fired But that would have counted for the second shot, what do you think of that?
Well, it's funny, if you watch the film, the first shot, clearly Kennedy is sitting upright, and he reaches up to his throat He sort of sits upright, he reaches up to his throat, and then he starts to slump over a little bit And then the next shot is the one where, you know, his head gets blown out, you know, the brains get blown out And, you know, he had a wound in the throat that got obliterated because they had tried to do a tracheotomy at the hospital But he also had a wound in the back, and then he had the wound in the head, which looks to appear like it came from the front somewhere Now the thing is, in one of my books, I believe the second Betrayal of Bethesda book, I had found a source for the notes from the guy who embalmed the body of Kennedy to get it ready for burial And he described the wound in the back of the head, which was clearly an exit wound, which meant a bullet had to come in from the front and blow out the lower right part of his head That's what they were saying today in the news, okay, now they were bringing this out, so I'm waiting to see how much more, apparently there was like 4,000 or 400 pages that have never been brought up before on this The other thing the embalmer noted in his notes, which I had never seen reported anywhere else, he said there were shrapnel wounds, small shrapnel wounds in Kennedy's face that he packed with wax to fill in So his face would look right, well I'm thinking wounds in his face and some sort of shrapnel, that could be glass from the windshield And there were different reports from different people seeing a hole in the windshield, which would again come from the front, had to be shot from the front Hit the windshield, pieces of glass hit Kennedy in the face And this is the notes William Palmer had from his work on the body of President Kennedy Well, I want to go to McCarthy for a minute, now I remember, I can remember of course the way they went after McCarthy, I mean the fake news media was all over him And I remember, and I'm trying to think of the names, there were two movie producers, both Jewish guys, and one of them, they were older guys, and one of them was married to a young woman and she was an actress And I'm having one of my senior moments with her name, but I remember hearing this guy when he, before he died, he was on his death bed And he came out and he made an admission that McCarthy was right all along, we were communists, we all were communists And he was talking about an admission there, and boy they shut that up, they shut that down right away And today McCarthy, you still hear about McCarthyism, in other words, whenever you're saying something that goes contrary to what the far left want to hear, it's called McCarthyism Well, what happens is that the deep state, which for years has controlled the news media, immediately establishes a narrative And that's all that they're going to allow to be shared with the public, and anything at variance with that then they'll try to discredit and shut it down But it's interesting, you mentioned a movie producer, or someone in Hollywood, remember there was another prominent American who exposed the communism in Hollywood, and that was Ronald Reagan Yeah When he was president of the Screen Actors Guild I met him when he was governor, yeah So that's another situation there where McCarthy was right, he was right in so many ways Yeah, he was, and you're right, they attacked him, they said he was an alcoholic, he was a drunk, this and that, and so yeah Of course they'd never changed, but recently they're coming out and they're admitting, I know that the head of the NPR, National Public Radio, the CEO of that woman, she had recently come out and admitted Yes, we don't always tell the truth because sometimes it makes more sense, it's easier to understand if we're not telling the truth So she admitted that the NPR, that they're lying, they're propaganda machines, and I was amazed that they would do that, but she did Well they're somewhat brazen, Pastor Sanders, if you notice that about the left, they can be so brazen in their lying and their hypocrisy because they know they're most likely not going to get called on except by people like us, and they'll immediately try to discredit us But they know that the mainstream media, which I call the elite trader media, are never going to challenge them, so they're just brazen in their lying and deception Yeah, well they're no longer calling themselves the mainstream because they're complaining the fact that they're no longer the majority, that they are now the minority media because we have all of these different blogs, all of these different radio programs like this one here And so now, and they've actually come out, and I'm seeing at MSNBC, CBS, PMS, NBC, whatever, that CNN, that they have about six or seven of the major talking heads, so-called anchors, have been fired or quit, they've had to step down And the one, what is her name, is it Lesley Stahl, I think her name is Lesley Stahl, she actually came out and said it's our own fault, in other words she came out and said it's our own fault that this is happening, in other words we should have been telling the truth, you know It's an amazing thing, and then they just had that one that was on the, was it Joy Reed, now she got canned, and yeah, and I think, what's her name, oh, Richard Madco, she is Oh yeah She, you know, her head could be on the chopping block next, and so I saw somewhere today that some of her staff had been let go, she hasn't been yet, but some of her staff were laid off Yeah, I'm trying to remember if it was CNN or NBC, they had to lay off hundreds, several hundred people, their ratings are dropping, in fact, I believe that now the Food Channel, the Food Channel has more listeners than CNN Oh yeah, they get better ratings, can you imagine, and you know, you think about the people who own these networks, and I think I've read where MSNBC Comcast has put it up for sale So I guess part of making it sellable is to tone down the far left rhetoric and trim out some of the fat, hoping that that will encourage someone to come in and buy it and take it off their hands I think Elon Musk was talking about buying it, that he was talking about buying it, he would turn it around in a heartbeat Also, you wonder about things like you have, for example, Target, Target, when they went their woke thing, when they did that, they put that stuff there for transgenders and pedophile stuff in their stores And they used the same bathrooms, unisex bathrooms, where they let these trans things, these men go right in there in the little girls' bathrooms, and anyhow, they lost ten billion dollars in ten days And so now there's stockholders, shareholders are suing the corporation, you know, for doing that, it's like, the stupid is the stupid does, and now Costco, with all these corporations that are backing away from woke, they're getting away from woke, they've announced no more woke In our stores, we're dropping woke, we're dropping DEI, all these corporations, but Costco says no, they're going to double down, they're going to go double down on woke Where do you think that's coming from? I don't know, it's hard to say, well you hear about the Murdoch family that owns Fox News and the Wall Street Journal and the New York Post And now there's this internal struggle for who's going to control Fox News when the old man passes on And among the sons, and apparently one of the sons is just as far left as you can get And he's talking about trying to bring changes to Fox News, and I'm thinking to myself, man, if it ain't broke, don't fix it, what are you doing? And I don't know what it is with these people, they've got it in their minds that somehow they're smarter than everyone else, and the way they think is the way everybody should think Even when they've got clear evidence that it's going against their best interests Yeah It's almost like some kind of mental problem It is, and there's a mindset that's, I don't know, it's lunacy Like I said, Target, I don't know how they're staying in business by doing that Now I know that they've been backing away away, they've had to back away from all this stuff because of the lawsuits But to have Costco actually say, no, we're going to become more DEI, we're going to become more woke I can tell you, a whole lot of people that I know are saying they'll never shop Costco again, ok?
So, I don't know, where do you go from there? In your book, here in Betrayal, go ahead, I'm sorry You would think they would just wake up and see what's happened with the election and the clear majority And where public opinion and public thinking is going But it's just, like I say, some people have a blind spot or mindset that just can't be changed no matter how much you put in front of them Yeah, well you wonder because they have to answer to the board, they have to answer to the shareholders And you're talking huge amounts of money here And again, like I said, Target has taken huge, huge hits on that, but they, I don't know, you're right, it's like Well, I guess that's why the shareholders are suing them, but these things go to court And you wonder about, go ahead Some of the shareholders are the institutional shareholders, these big investment firms like BlackRock and Vanguard and these others And after a while they're only going to tolerate so much before they put their foot down and say, hey, you've got to start showing a return on investment here Speaking of BlackRock, what do you think of that? BlackRock has made Trump an offer to gather up the illegals and do it, to have a private firm privatize the gathering of all of the illegals and sending them back home And of course, we know BlackRock's been involved in some pretty shady and nasty things, huh? Yeah, exactly, so you've got to wonder if that'll go anywhere or not I kind of think Tom Homan's going to want to keep a tight control over how that all goes and how that's run Yeah, I think he will too What about the $5 million credit card that Oh yeah, to exceed the green card for foreigners to come in and work or invest or do whatever, what they're going to do, now they're talking about this gold card Yeah, that's what I want Take $5 million for and they'll let you in the country Yeah, you spend $5 million because that tells you that you have enough money to come in and you're going to be independent and you're going to be doing things for the country I'm not so sure that's a good idea, what do you think? I have mixed feelings on it, it's sort of like, well the rich can buy their way in and then here's other people who would like to come in and do it the right way legitimately And come here and work and may have skills that are useful But the $5 million just buys your way in, there's something a little, I don't know, it just doesn't quite sit right Well now the left was saying, remember the left was telling us before that the illegal aliens were not taking American jobs, they were not taking American jobs Absolutely not taking American jobs, now they're saying, who is going to fill the jobs, who's going to pick the crops, who's going to do all of those Can they have it both ways all the time? Well they try, they try to Alright, we're going to be coming up to a break, do you feel like taking, well you know what, when we come back the first thing you have to do is tell the folks how you can get your book Because this is a very good one, on the book one, you know it's dynamite, we're just getting started on this, it's about 112 pages, something like that But betrayal of Bethesda, it is dynamite, be right back after this, don't go away, much more to come To support this ministry, head to WRWL.org, that's WRWL.org, mail your donations to What's Right, What's Left Ministries, 14781 Speary Road, Newbury, Ohio, 44065 If you missed part of tonight's program, you can check out the podcast at thewordcleveland.com, thewordcleveland.com Once again, thank you for listening and supporting What's Right, What's Left Ministries, the voice of the Christian resistance Stay tuned, the second hour is coming up next
