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Thank you. This is What's Right, What's Left with Pastor Ernie Sanders. Good evening and welcome to another edition of What's Right, What's Left on this 28th day of October 2024. I'm Radio Pastor Ernie Sanders and indeed this is the voice of the Christian Resistance. And tonight our producer is none other than the very capable Ken.
Good evening, Pastor. In fact, he's so capable. Even when he was a kid, that's what they used to call him. Capable. Who told you? Well, you know, see I know things. I know things. What a nickname for a kid, though.
That's Capable Kenny over there. Well, for short, they just called you Cape. But anyhow, and tonight we have with us none other than the legendary parson, Pastor Joe Larson.
Yeah, that Bible-believing, flag-waving, gun-owning, Constitution-loving patriot is here ready to go to work. Was that your nickname growing up? I'm not going to say what my nickname was.
It was pretty bad. Sometimes they just... We'll pass on that one. They called him Ridge Runner Joe. I'm not going to tell you why. Anyhow, let's see.
I can live with that one. We better get it down to business here tonight. And the title of the message was, do you remember, Joe? The Elect, the Election, and the Elected.
Yep, that's what it is. And as we go through here, we're going to take a look at... If they bring it to mind, aren't we having an election here pretty soon? Well, this is the first part of my election sermon.
Oh, okay. And here, as we know, let's... Who are the elect? We are.
Right. We're the elect. The born-again believers are the elect. And so we're going to take a look at how the elect respond to the election. Very good. And then we're going to take a look at the kind of people that we hope to get elected. Hmm.
All right. Did you know that God's Word... That's pretty good. God's Word, the Bible, the greatest source of information, wisdom, and knowledge in existence. And it will be the only source left when all the libraries on this planet are burnt, they're gone.
There won't be no libraries, no books in those libraries. When everything's gone, the only thing that'll be left is one book. And that's the Bible. That's the Word of God, huh?
Exactly. Because it is forever. And God said that, didn't He? God said that. He cannot lie.
Mm-hmm. And so we start in Deuteronomy chapter 17, start with verse 14. Go ahead and read verse 14, Joe. When thou art come unto the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee, and shall possess it, and shall dwell therein, and shall say, I will set a king over me, like as all the nations that are about me.
Okay. Here's an interesting thing, because this was written 300 years, Joe, before it actually happened. God gave him a 300-year warning. This was here written in Deuteronomy, and then 300 years later, if you jump over just to 1 Samuel. We jump over to 1 Samuel 8. Chapter 8, yeah.
No, actually, it's 1 Samuel. Yeah, chapter 8, let me see. I'm going to get there. I'll get there in a minute, I think.
Jump, I got it now. 1 Samuel chapter 8 started with verse 5, and we read verses 5 through 9. This is 300 years later, Joe, 300 years later. 300 years later.
Yep. And said unto him, this was as they were talking, to Samuel, Behold, thou art old, and thy sons walk, not in thy ways. Now make us a king to judge us, like all the nations. But the thing displeased Samuel, when they said, Give us a king to judge us. And Samuel prayed unto the Lord. And the Lord said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people, in all that they say unto thee, for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them. According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them up out of Egypt, even unto this day, wherewith they have forsaken me, and served other gods, so do they also unto thee.
All right, here, so, Now therefore hearken unto their voice, yet protest solemnly unto them, and show them the manner of the king, that they shall reign over them. Now, first of all, did God have a king in mind for them? He was to be their king, and yes, in that sense, they did have one. The Lord was their king and judge.
Yeah, he was going to be their king, the Lord of lords and the king of kings, huh? And now, as we look at this, then Samuel, Samuel was the last judge. He was the last judge.
Last one. And, in fact, he actually was a judge at the same time, Eli, who was the last high priest and also acted as a judge, too, for forty-five years. And then Eli died, and on the very day that Eli died, the Philistines stole the Ark of the Covenant on that same day. And so now here, God had told them three hundred years earlier they were going to do this, and why do you think, why do you think they wanted a king like the heathen? What was the, what, I mean, they had a judge, you know, God himself, and did God take care of them? I mean, when they were obedient to him.
Very, very well. When they obeyed him, they suffered, and they were protected. So, he fought the army, he fought, sometimes they didn't even have to pick up a weapon, he went ahead of them, right? He fought the armies. Did he provide them with food? Yeah, for one, he gave them a promised land with buildings that they didn't have to build, farms they didn't have to plow and break ground, and, I mean, they had it, well, what's the old expression, they had it made in the shade. So, I mean, he took them out of Egypt, too, didn't he? Yes. Defeated Pharaoh's army, and, but, I think part of it was, they looked around, they saw all the others, and they, they had, I guess it's that group thing, people like, way back in school, wanted to be like one of the cool groups in school, and they didn't want to be independent, didn't want to be different, I think they wanted to be like everybody else.
Which is a shame, because they were God's elect and chosen. Were you a part of that cool group, Joe? No, I wasn't. I didn't belong to any of the groups. I wasn't a jock, I wasn't an associate, I was kind of a country kid, and I was, just did my own thing. I knew we were kindred spirits. Yeah, we were. Man, I told the joint group.
Well, what about this, Joe? What about they really didn't want to obey God? They didn't want to obey me. The other thing is, because, yeah, they wanted to get away from that strict, thou shall not, cannot, must not, will not, stuff, you know. Yeah, they kind of looked around, they saw there was pleasure in sin, huh?
Yeah. And so, that's what they... But they also should have seen the bad consequences, the unwanted pregnancies, the fighting, you know, they should have seen both sides, but they, human nature just sees what it wants to see. But now, here he says, Now therefore hearken unto their voice, albeit yet protest solemnly unto them, and then show them the manner of the king that shall reign over them. So, God already knew who it was going to be. And he says this, verse 18, And you shall cry out in that day because of your king which you have chosen.
You and the Lord will not hear you. In other words, he's telling them, Guess what's going to happen to you? This king is going to draft your men, your young men, he's going to make them, send them out to war. He's going to draft your women, make confectionaries out of them, make maidens out of them.
He's going to, and cooks and things. Take some of your fields and vineyards and all the good stuff you have, right? Your flocks. Your olive yards, yep. And so, he's going to do all these things, and then he's going to take one-tenth of everything you've got, ok?
No matter how hard you work at it, right? Right off the top. Well, they were supposed to give a tenth to the Lord, now they've got to give a tenth to the Lord and to the king. Right. And what he's saying is, it's really going to cost you dearly here, folks, but they didn't listen. What did they say? Nevertheless, the people refused to obey the voice of Samuel, and they said, Nay, but we will have a king over us, that we may also be like all the nations, that our king may judge us, go out before us and fight our battles. So, did God give them the king they deserved?
Pretty much. Yeah, he gave them the king they deserved. Actually, I think they gave one just a little better, probably. I don't think they even deserved the one they got. Here, it's kind of, it wasn't that great, but I think he was better than they deserved. Saul, yes, Saul was not a good king, ok? No. He got himself in a lot of trouble, and David... But they didn't deserve one, so... David was a sinner, too, ok? But here now, and, well, as we go through here, we're going to see that Solomon, for the smartest man in the world, did some very stupid things. Yeah.
It kind of centered around women, didn't it? Yeah. That'll get you in trouble every time.
Every time, man. Like God said, have one wife, be happy, oh no, we've got to go crazy. So here now, verse 15, let's pick it up back in Deuteronomy 17. In Deuteronomy 17, 15, right? Thou shalt in any wise set a king over thee, whom the Lord thy God shall choose. One from among thy brethren shall thou set king over thee, that thou mayest not set a stranger over thee, which is not thy brother. Ok, so how would that apply to us? We don't have a king, but we have a president.
Right. Well, he should be one of us, in other words, should be a citizen. The founding fathers read this, and they said, well, God said it should be one of us, so it should be a citizen in the United States. But when they used the brother, I also find that to mean he should be a Christian, or a man of God, because here we have the Old Testament, a man of God, so it would follow man of God.
Ok, so now you used that word three times, man, man, man. So it says here that he, ok, which is a man. God kept saying he, didn't it? Alright, so God, is there any place in the Bible where God has set a woman over to rule over the people?
Only as a punishment. God did say he would give the women rule over as punishment. Alright, now Deborah, Deborah was a co-judge, she was one of the judges, but she was the only one that was a co-judge, Beric. And Beric said that he couldn't sit and judge the people and fight a war at the same time, could he? No, not hardly. Deborah was a very smart woman, wasn't she?
Exceedingly. At that time she was not a king, she was a judge, God was the one who was still their king, so there was still not a female that was king, she was a judge but not a king. Right, well, yeah. There is a distinction, right?
Right. And so here now, as he goes on to say, verse 16, But he shall not multiply horses to himself. And so, why would God say that? Why would he not want them to multiply horses? Well, you start to accumulate wealth in horses, there's status and power and wealth, and the Lord has said, you know, you're supposed to be like, it wasn't supposed to be all about him as his wealth and fame, it was to be a servant leader. Well, horses meant, you know, in those days too, if you had horses in the military, in the army, you were much more powerful than an army, you could move a lot faster.
Right, true, right. So horses were like a major weapon. They were like tanks today, yeah. Yeah, like the tanks today.
And so, but who? God said, look, I'll protect you, I'll protect you, right? So he tells them not to do that, not to multiply horses to himself. Now, at this time, Israel had never used a horse for battle, they had never done that. In fact, that didn't start until later, if you go all the way over to 1 Kings, and in 1 Kings, the first mention of using the horses for Israel. Now, for a long time before that, Egypt had been using horses, but we don't see horses even mentioned until we go over to 1 Kings chapter 1, and then Adoniah, who is the son of Hagith, he was David's, David's fourth son, King David's fourth son. Hagith was his mother, exalted himself saying, I will be king and be prepared. And he prepared him chariots and horsemen and fifty men to run before him. Yeah. But see, part of that was also pomp and ceremony, the men to run before him. It was military, but it was also that symbol of power and authority, right?
Right. Now, his brothers were at this time Ammon and Absalom were already dead at this time, and he decided, he decided that he should succeed King David and not Solomon. But who decided that it would be Solomon? It was God. God told David, right?
Right. He said David was the one. And then David told Solomon, yeah. So it looked like, Adoniah, he lost that argument, huh? It seems like everybody in the Old Testament tried to argue if God lost.
It seemed to be kind of a plot, you know, a theme that ran. And so, alrighty, if we go back to Deuteronomy 17 and pick it up in verse 17. Yeah, I was just thinking about that because we just mentioned Solomon. Neither shall he multiply wives unto himself that his heart turn not away, neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold. Well, Solomon kind of fell away there because he had not only all these wives but a huge number of concubines, and he did acquire a lot of silver and gold, didn't he? Okay. What would be the purpose of acquiring all of those wives? They did it for a reason.
They required it. Hmm. Let me just say that you were king of Missouri, right? Alright. And I'm king of Ohio, right? Alright.
Kenny don't have nothing. Can I be a duke? I'll be a duke. I'll be a duke, okay. Alright.
That sounds cool. Anyhow, so I look over there and I see the things in Missouri, and there's a lot of things, a lot of potential. So what I do is I go and I send, and I marry one of your daughters, and now we're relatives. Right. Then I send a union, kind of a union or coming to uniting families. I send one of my daughters over for you to marry, and then I look over there and I see by this time Kenny's no longer a duke, he's a king. So now I send him over there and I send one of my sons to marry one of his daughters. And so all of a sudden, see now we're family. Right.
Are we likely to go to war being family? No. No, and we've got three kingdoms worth of power too. Yeah, yeah. So now we're allied against the Chaldeans, huh? Mm-hmm. I mean nobody wanted to be, nobody wanted to be a part of those Chaldeans, they were wicked evil.
Must have been those people down there in Kentucky. Yeah. And so, yeah, yeah. Anyhow, so let's, we better start, stop right about there because I think. Right about there. Yeah, wait a minute, no. Let's read that last one real quick.
Okay. And it shall be when he sitteth upon the throne of his kingdom that he shall write him a copy of this law in a book, out of which is before the priests. And it shall be with him and he shall read it all the days of his life and learn to fear God, keep all the words of the law and his statutes and do them. That was something that God wanted for all his leaders, right? Alright, so now, how would that apply to our presidents today, but not just our presidents, okay? It wasn't just the king.
Our governors and senators, I would think, anyone like that with power. It wasn't just the king because, you see, first of all, the priests had to do that. Now, what was, in the book of the law, where was, where was the original writing of Moses? Where was that kept? In the Ark of the Covenant.
That's exactly right. Now, they had to copy this, not just the king, but all the priests had to copy this word for word. It had to be word for word.
And they had to compare them. Now, here, today, let's just see if it would happen today because now we're not under the laws of Moses, the letters of the law, we're under grace, right? So what would, what would our kings be required, our presidents required to copy word for word? Constitution. Well, no, because it would be the New Testament.
Okay, all right, yes, that sense, you're right. I was thinking it would also be a good idea if they knew the Constitution, which most of our politicians don't. Yeah, and if they copied it, you know, they'd be learning as they wrote it, too.
Yeah, but there's much more information in the New Testament than in there. Without a doubt, they should do both. Right.
And it wouldn't hurt. No. They might keep them out of a lot of trouble if they were busy learning instead of, never mind, fundraising, et cetera. Then he says that the heart be not lifted up above his brethren, and that so are we to understand reality, okay? We all have a lot to be thankful for. We do have a lot to be thankful for, okay?
Amen. But do we have anything to be proud of? No.
Everything we have comes from God. So did we decide where we would be born? Nope. Did we decide who our parents would be? Nope. Did we decide who our gender, what our gender would be? Nope, not how tall we are, what color, our hair, our eyes. We didn't get to decide any of that. Well, today, if you were in a public school, some teacher might have decided for you.
Tried to, yeah. Anyhow, what your gender would be. Here, so we've got everything to be thankful for. If we're smart, if we're athletic, if we're good looking, if we're healthy, it's by God's grace. It's by God's grace.
He decided all this. He could have been born in Bagadash in some caste system and, you know, not be born out in some snake infested jungle. I spent a long time on those snake infested jungles.
Wouldn't want to be born out there. Anyhow. No.
There were some places where your boots literally rotted off your feet. Yeah. You're right.
I wouldn't want to be born there. So here now, so we have to realize God is up there, all the rest of us is down here, and that your heart not be lifted up above the brethren, and that he turn not aside from the commandment to the right hand or to the left. Okay. The Bible says turning to the right is a good thing. A good thing. How could you, what do you think he means by that? He wasn't to vary from what God said one bit.
So, in other words. He wasn't to add to it or detract from it. He was to follow it.
Okay. Well, yeah, that, but in other words, there were some of the, like the Gnostics, the Gnostics thought that they could become more righteous than God, than Jesus. They thought by the abstention, and so we know that that can't happen, but he's telling you not to even try it, but then turning to the left, what does that have to do with morality, those that turn to the left? That's away from God.
And they're turning to sin. So he's telling you just stay strictly with the word of God, right? Right. And will you ever go wrong? We are to just accept it and follow it. And you'll never go wrong that way.
The Pharisees, they added to it, and he also didn't want it to be added to it. Absolutely. Alrighty, we're going to stop here now. I want to read, I want to read this article, Joe, and then we're going to listen to a clip that we've played, but this here, as you know, Kamalik, the woman whose death, she loves abortion, she's a wicked woman, a very unclean and a very wicked woman, but she loves abortion, right up until the time, I think if she could kill babies after they're born, that would be good too. She's just wicked to the core. But anyhow, Kamalik was heckled at a Pennsylvania church after claiming for her, fulfills God's will. I can never imagine bringing her into a church.
Just unbelievable. It's not you or I, not one of our churches. We wouldn't. Well, I mean, she would need to be in there, okay? But if she could be saved, that would be awesome. Yeah, not there to speak.
Right. Okay, so, on Sunday, Kamalik Harris tried to mislead another church in Pennsylvania, but was interrupted by one of the attendees who firmly rejected her. Kamalik opened her mouth in Church of Christian Compassion in West Philadelphia by invoking a religious duty to vote, suggesting that casting a ballot for her was aligned with God's will, a statement that generated both laughter and applause from the congregation.
In just nine days, we have the power to decide the fate of our nation for generations to come. And in this beautiful Sunday morning, I am reminded how God expects us to help him, Harris declared. We've got work to do, yeah, oh boy, if she, God expects her to help him, I don't think so, I would call that blasphemy, baby-killing, sodomite-loving, you know, child abuse person, yeah, no, God, Christian, you're at the wrong rally, yeah. As Kamalik Harris attempted to link her candidacy with the biblical story of the Apostle Paul, she was abruptly interrupted by a voice from the congregation that refused to be silenced. The heckless words, largely drawn out by the church band, intentionally resonated with many who were increasingly skeptical of the Democratic Communist Party's claims to moral authority. Harris clapped along with the audience, stating that that's why we fight for democracy.
Every voice is important, as law enforcement escorted a protester out of the building. The incident followed her mocking of the protesters who, during her abortion speech, were chanting Jesus is Lord. Kamala Harris and her supporters openly mocked a Christian attendee and Jesus Christ during a rally in La Crosse, Wisconsin, earlier in the month. During the speech, she focused on promoting child killing, child sacrifice, that wicked, wicked woman, when someone bravely interrupted her.
We remember Donald Trump had selected three members of the United States Supreme Court with the intention that they would undo the protection of Roe v. Wade, as they did as they intended. A Christian attendee, Pulaski, bravely stood up and proclaimed, Jesus is Lord, only to be mocked by Harris herself, who coldly replied, I think you're at the wrong rally. The crowd erupted in cheers and laughter, and Harris, with an air of smugness, added, tried a smaller one down the street. It was a disgusting display by the godless Democrat and her gaggle of supporters during an interview with Fox News. He said, I yelled out in the crowd that abortion is the sacrament of Satan, and when I said I do, I deeply do believe that as a Christian, and about ten seconds go by, and that's when the video of my friend Grant and I proclaiming that Christ is Lord and Jesus is King, when we said that. And I think it's important to say that a small venue, and we were about 20 to 30 yards away from Kamalik, at that point were a lot of controversy that says she wasn't talking to us or we'd laugh.
We didn't get kicked out. Well, I can speak on the Grant, and it is in my behalf on the video, Grant's getting pushed and shoved, and there's about five seconds before she tells us to go to the rally down the street. You can see on the video, she waves, she was actually waving to me. I took the cross off my neck that I wear, and as we were getting asked to leave, I held it up in the air and waved it at her, pointed to her, and she pointed directly in the eye, give me an evil smirk. And just as I wanted to clear that up and conformed that she was 100 percent was talking to us, and there's one other controversy that says we left. We were getting shouted at, pushed, assaulted, and screamed at. Here, Kamalik, remember the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, Joe?
I sure do, out of San Diego, California, or San Diego and San Francisco. And so Kamalik was there with them, and boy, she was, in fact, even dressed up, wasn't she? The sisters are sodomites, or male sodomites, who dress as Roman Catholic nuns, sexy nuns.
They use Christian symbols for sex toys. They are about as rude, crude, vulgar, sinful as any group I can think of we've ever run into as far as blasphemy, anything that they can, you know, anything against God and His symbols, so they caught her in a 30-second clip performing sound bites with these people, and you know, she's saying who she sides with. But one thing you missed, she said this back at that church, when I think about the days ahead and the God we serve, yay, I'm confident that His power will work through us.
This church, I know we were born for a time such as this. You know, she has copied Trump. All of a sudden she wanted the, what, no taxes on tips, and she went and recently did a little rally at a barber shop in Philly, somewhere, one of those places. Oh yeah, all of a sudden she got a... She's copying the church, see, she's using things like you and I would say, we were born for a time like this, you know, and God is working through us, we're supposed to be out working for God. I mean, she's starting to copy Christians now, like she copies Trump.
This person doesn't have an original thought in her head. Well, when she was at that barber shop out there in Philly, her accent changed, all of a sudden she'd be speaking the bra'u language. Yeah, it started all of a sudden, yeah, she's done it, everywhere she goes she has her persona. She's a great actress.
Yeah, Hillary tried that too, she even carried around a bottle of hot sauce to show that she was... I don't know what that was about, you know. And it was such a fake, everybody, wait a minute, different personality, you know, anybody with any sense would go, she's not real, if she has all these different personalities, different aspects to her voice and character, should we say. But this just, this got me with this part about, in the God we serve, she doesn't serve our God. Okay, what does God's word... What, because she believes that abortion is like a sacrament.
Some years ago, I led an operation rescue in Akron, and they had this bloody abortion at this whorehouse of death in this old motel that they had bought, and as I was out there preaching, the witches, you had a bunch of witches were up on, and they were saying that the children, I can't tell you actually the other things that they were saying, what they were having as their sacrament, okay, but it was absolutely filthy, but they said they offer up the babies, you know, to one of their witches, I'm thinking right now, it was one of their female goddesses, it wasn't Krista, Krista, it was another one, Sophia, they offer, we offer up these children as our sacrifice, these are wicked, wicked women. And Kamalik, Kamalik wants to offer up these children to Satan, okay, that's exactly what she's doing, abortion, what does God say about abortion, fellas, tell the people out there. Go ahead, yeah, God's abortion is murder.
It's murder. You are killing in the image of God, you are creation in the image of God, you are killing, doing murder. It's a transgression of God's dominion, and punishable by death, punishable by death, and he says that one, if you kill that, you destroy his image, then you deserve to die, and if you're unrepentant, you will burn in hell, in hell, yep, okay, why aren't these preachers preaching that? I mean, that's what the Bible teaches, that's what God has said, why are there so few of us, why are there so few of us preaching that? Because there are a lot of hirelings out there who have an easy job, who want people to like them, they don't like to rock the boat, they don't want to upset people, they don't want to reduce money to the collection plates, because they're hirelings, they are not somebody called by God, and that's trouble, too many people like the school to work that they put out from the government years ago, occupation of minister, and this is a good thing for you to choose, no, you don't choose, God chooses you. So they'd rather disrespect and offend God, than their own assemblies, or, and the media.
Yeah, don't upset the media. Well, you know, going back to that, this video they've got of Harris was on the stage there at a big Pride event in San Francisco, and the sisters there, serving as master of ceremonies for the parade and all this, and the fairs, and the sister, Sister Roma, will host the famous Hunky Jesus contest. I mean, talk about blasphemy, a homosexual, sexy Jesus. I wanted to throw up when I saw the pictures of it, and these are her people, these are the ones that she was promoting, encouraging, backing, that should tell you right there, you cannot be a Christian and vote for Kamala Harris, you can't be a Christian and vote for a Democrat.
You can't be a Christian and be a Democrat. Right. Impossible. Yeah. Not anymore.
You used to be able to, you used to be able to back in, what, the 60s or whatever, right now. The Blue Dogs, yeah, there were some Blue Dog Democrats that were pretty good people, yeah. Maybe even in the 80s, but they've come along with, they've changed a whole heck of a lot. Well, they've become satanic. The actual, the biggest, fastest growing church down in America, and it's being filled with Democrats, is the Church of Satan. They've adopted everything that God's Word, the Bible calls an abomination, they are the party of.
I have no doubts, I don't have a doubt in my mind that if someone could invent a new sin tonight, they'd have it tomorrow in their plank. But, you know, some good news is, some good news was today, Randall Terry ran that ad, remember we had Randall here on the program, promoting that, and he got the money, and he ran the ad showing what an abortion is on P.U., The View. You had that group of bloodthirsty, wicked, unclean women on that view, they were vulgar, I mean these women are vulgar, they're hypocritical, just unbelievable, yeah, but they showed that on the, during The View, and I bet you those wicked old women are really upset about that.
I haven't heard anything yet on the news, but it'll come out, I'm sure, Ruppey Goldberg is going to lose it over that, she's got to have some kind of comment about the ad. Anyhow, go ahead and play that, that clip on abortion, this is what we played once before, folks, and think about it, this is what we're actually talking about, this is what actually takes place in every single Christian, every one, we are commanded to do whatever we can to stop that horrible sin. First witness is Dr. Anthony Levatino, Dr. Levatino is a board-certified obstetrician gynecologist, over the course of his career, Dr. Levatino has practiced obstetrics and gynecology in both private and university settings, including as an associate professor of OB-GYN at the Albany Medical College, and Dr. Levatino, we'll begin with you, welcome.
Thank you, Chairman, and members of the committee, I only have five minutes, so I'm going to get right to it. Second trimester D and E abortions perform between roughly 14 and 24 weeks of gestation. Your patient today is 17 years old, she's 22 weeks pregnant, her baby is the length of your hand plus a couple of inches, and she's been feeling her baby kicked for the last several weeks, but she's asleep on an operating room table. You walk into that operating room scrubbed and gowned, and after removing laminaria, you introduce a suction catheter into the uterus, this is a 14 French suction catheter. If she were 12 weeks pregnant or less, basically the width of your hand is smaller, you could basically do the entire procedure with this, but babies this big don't fit through catheters this size. After suctioning the amniotic fluid out from around the baby, you introduce an instrument called the sofa clamp, it's about 13 inches long, it's made of stainless steel, the business end of this clamp is about 2 and a half inches long and a half inch wide, there are rows of sharp teeth, this is a grasping instrument, when it gets a hold of something it does not let go. A D and E procedure is a blind abortion, so picture yourself introducing this and grabbing anything you can blindly and pull, and I do mean hard, and out pops a leg about that big which you put down on the table next to you, reach in again, pull again, pull out an arm about the same length which you put down on the table next to you, and use this instrument again and again to tear out the spine, the intestines, the heart and lungs.
Head on the baby that size is about the size of a large plum, can't see it, but you've pretty good idea you've got it if you've got your instrument around something and your fingers are spread about as far as they go. You know you did it right if you crush down on the instrument and white material runs out of the cervix, that was the baby's brains, and you can pull out skull pieces, and you have a day like I had a lot of times, sometimes a little face comes back and stares back at you. Congratulations, you just successfully performed a second trimester D and E abortion, you just affirmed your right to choose. Why did you end your practice of doing abortions?
I did over 1,200 abortions over a four year period in private practice, now counting the ones that I did during my training. I met my wife during my first year of training at Albany Medical Center, we got married about a year later and found that we had an infertility problem. After years of failed infertility treatment and several years trying to adopt a child, we were blessed with adopting a little girl that we named Heather in August of 1978. As sometimes happens in those situations, my wife got pregnant the very next month and we had two children 10 months apart. Two months short of my daughter Heather's sixth birthday, she was killed in an auto accident and literally died in her arms in the back of an ambulance. Anyone who has children might think they have some idea of what that feels like, but unless you've been through it yourself, you have no idea whatsoever. I know people find it hard to believe, but what do you do after a disaster? You bury your child and then you go back to your life, and I don't remember exactly how long it was after my daughter died that I showed up at Albany Medical Center OR number nine to perform my first second trimester D&E abortion.
I wasn't thinking of it as anything special, this was routine to me. But I reached in, literally pulled out an arm or leg and got sick. Earlier on I described stacking up body parts on the side of the table, it's not to gross people out, to use a simple term. When you do an abortion, you need to keep inventory, you have to make sure you get two arms and two legs and all the pieces.
If you don't, your patient's going to come back infected, bleeding, or dead. So I soldiered on and finished that abortion, and I know it sounds, as I said, hard for people to believe, but I'm telling you straight up my experience. After over 1,200 abortions, first and second trimester up to 24 weeks, and all the rest of it, and being very dedicated to it, for the first time in my life I really looked. I really looked at that pile of body parts on the side of the table, and I didn't see her wonderful right to choose, and I didn't see all the money I just made, all I could see was somebody's son or daughter. And I stopped doing late-term abortions after that, and several months later stopped doing all abortions.
All right, there you go. Can you imagine here having that, the Bible says that the blood of the innocent cry out to bear witness against the guilty. That fellow, I know he's, now he says he's repentant, but I don't know how in the world you could go ahead and kill so many people.
You know, when he lost his own daughter, then he started finally realizing what he was doing. That was just hard enough to listen to, let alone going through that as your profession. Yeah. Oh, I've talked to a number of these that have come out of the child killing industry. In fact, I had a, excuse me, for some reason I got something. You got a tickle in your throat? Yeah, it's a tickle in my throat, and a couple hours ago I ate some peanuts, but that was a couple hours ago.
Well, it happens to the best of us. So anyhow, I had witnessed, excuse me, witnessed to a number of abortionists over the years they actually have come to me wanting to talk, you know, hearing me on the radio. In fact, I actually had lunch with Bernard Nathanson, who ran the largest abortion mill in the entire country, along with, I was with Dr. Jack Wilkie and myself, and he gave us his story and how when he saw the silent scream he couldn't take it anymore.
He'd be conscious and he just wanted to beg God to forgive him, but a number of them. And they have, you know, these abortionists have, they're many, many, most all of them are alcoholics, they have a high history of abusing their wives, a real high history. I helped put a couple of them in prison because one, they was actually, when these women would come in they'd put them to sleep, they'd anesthetize them, and then these two abortionists would have sex with them, and one of their ghoulies, one of the women that worked in that place called me one day because they discovered that she saw them having sex with these women that were under, you know, and then she was afraid for her life, so she called me wanting to know if I could help her. She said, I'll spill the beans, I'll tell everything I've seen, but I want protection. And so we got her, I got her a good lawyer, and we got her protection, and she said everything. She talked about how everything, both those two went to prison. But anyhow, we said all that to say what a horrible, horrible sin that is, and the pastors have to start preaching against sin again, don't they?
Yep, they have to bring up things that are, you know, like that that are unpleasant, and they don't want to have to do that, they might bother somebody in the congregation, but I want to make a point. You and I were in the military, and our job was to kill the enemy, I mean, we did training and everything else, but basically it was to fight and kill the enemy, and we knew some pretty tough men, right? And I don't think any of the men that I worked with, that was a helicopter pilot, gunship pilot, actually. I don't think there was a man there that went through all that combat, did a lot of killing that could have ever killed a child in the womb. I don't think one of those guys could have done that, it would have been just too unthinkable. I just cannot imagine somebody who could reach in and pull apart a child, beyond comprehension. You know, I spent 45 years, you know, ministering upon death row, and I was there with a number of serial killers, and you know, when an abortionist came in, even these guys, even the serial killers, in the prison system, you have one floor below the basement, you know, the basement floor were pedophiles, and child-rapers, but abortionists were below that. They actually had to be, they always try to keep the identity, they had to put the abortionists, they always had to, you know, put them in solitary confinement, yeah, they always had to, because the other inmates would kill them, and everyone hated an abortionist, and so So when the worst among us hate abortionists, it must have been pretty, yeah, pretty bad. Well it's because the most innocent are children, babies in the womb, and these sick people take the lives of the most innocent, they're all cowardly.
Every time I've run into one and they've ran, I've had several of them just saw me and they've ran from me, run, just by looking at me. And so, and they're cowards, I mean they're all cowards, and so, anyhow, when we come back, we're coming up to a break, and then we come back to the break, you know, we're still filling the results, you know, Joe, we warned and warned and warned and warned about the kill shot, that Covid-19 shot, you know, it's not, it was not a vaccine, it's not a vaccine, folks, we told you, remember, three weeks before the very first person took the very first shot, we were telling people, this is not a vaccine, folks, listen, listen, this is not a vaccine, we were telling people, all the test animals died, every single one of them. And all the politicians that were getting the shot on TV, that was not what they were getting.
I know that. And I had an administrator of a hospital say, because she had to get her shot too, that I hope my staff cares enough about me to give me the right shot, because there were six different levels, six different types, they started out basically just with the saline, but after that, they used the most deadly, the most deadly, the most toxic, they sent those out to areas that were red, where there were a lot of conservative Republican Christian voters, and people should have listened, we warned and we warned and we warned, and when we come back, we're going to, it's still people are still feeling the effects, and they're going to be feeling the effects for quite a while of that. Right now, over 20 million people have died, over 20 million people have died from that Covid shot, and you don't hear that on NBC, ABC or CBS, we'll be back right after this, look away, more time program, you can check out the podcast at thewordcleveland.com, thewordcleveland.com. Once again, thank you for listening and supporting What's Right, What's Left Ministries, the voice of the Christian resistance. Stay tuned. The second hour is coming up next.
