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September 17, 2024 12:05 am

Pastor Ernie Sanders discusses the importance of standing up for what's right, particularly in the face of injustice, and the need for Christians to be bold and fearless in their faith. He also talks about the concept of hell and purgatory, and how the Bible teaches that only a small percentage of people will be saved. The program also features an interview with Jake, a January 6th political prisoner, who shares his story of perseverance and faith in the midst of adversity.

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Pastor Ernie Sanders

The following program is sponsored by What's Right, What's Left Ministries, and is responsible for its content. Portions of the following program may be pre-recorded. I am Pastor Ernie Sanders, the voice of the Christian Resistance. Stay tuned. My radio broadcast, What's Right, What's Left, is coming up right now.

This is what's right, what's left. I tune in every chance I get to hear exactly what's going on with the voice of the Christian Resistance. Unabashedly cutting through the rhetoric by exposing the hard topics facing our society and world.

A lot of the other news medias don't pick up the news items like he does. And bring into light the enemies of freedom who are out to steal your rights, your children, and enslaving you. You really get the truth out. I can tune into your show and hear the unvarnished truth.

Thank you. This is What's Right, What's Left with Pastor Ernie Sanders. Good evening and welcome to another edition of What's Right, What's Left. I'm Radio Pastor Ernie Sanders, and indeed, this is the voice of the Christian Resistance on this September 16th, 2024. I know what date it is because it's my birthday today.

It's my birthday. That's right. Back there in the glass cage, well, in the phone booth, we have none other than Pastor Richard and Deacon Eric. And then we have in the glass cage where we keep you locked up.

But he does commentary. Our producer, another, no other than Kenny Skinny. How you doing, Pastor? Happy birthday. Well, thank you. Yeah, happy birthday.

Okay. And way out yonder in Missouri, we have none other than the parson, Joe Larson. I thought you'd given up having birthdays. I thought we did that for Len a couple years ago. Yeah, I quit doing it for about three years for the night. I had to pick it up on it.

Folks, if you want to know how old I am, I'm 39 for the 38th time. Wow. That's some kind of record. Yeah, it is. So anyhow, we've got a lot to get to tonight. So good evening, everyone. Oh, there you go.

I forgot all about, there she was. Say it again. Good evening, everyone. All right.

She did that perfectly. All right. Get out there. I've got so much to do tonight.

We have a lot. Last minute, Jake Lang called in, and he wants to try to call in. He said, Jay Sixer has been in prison without any charges, without a charge now for over 1,300 days. And how wicked and evil that is. He's a political prisoner in this great country of America. I cannot understand why the Senate, the House has not screamed and yelled and started hearings on that. Why somebody hasn't taken that to the Supreme Court, filed on amicus brief or something. I mean, I just cannot believe the inaction over the political prisoners that are held without bail, without trial. I mean, this is a political history.

It's the optics of it. That's what's holding people back. Yep. There you go.

Well, they're afraid they're going to come after them. Exactly. Yep. That's exactly what it is. You know, they're, remember what Chuckie Schuber said, when you go up against the intelligence ages committee.

Yep. You're going to be. Six ways to Sunday.

Six ways to Sunday. They'll get you. You see what they've tried to do to Trump. So they're watching what they've done to Trump. And again, Congress should, should, uh, again vote. Well, they did. They wanted to, but we have rhinos that let us down, but they could defund the justice department. They could defund them.

What they need to do because they're corrupt as corrupt as corrupt gets absolutely corrupt. But anyhow, I got to get on with some things here. Uh, tonight, two things we have, uh, this is pledge week, pledge week, pledge week.

And the numbers are 8 8 8 2 8 1 1 1 1 0 or 8 8 8 6 7 7 9 6 7 3. Now we have people that have pledged Lisa 1 25, Wendy, 880, and Jim right here in Ohio, 2000. And so very, very good. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Well, I didn't pledge anything. I just went to the website and donated a $200. Okay.

Well that means real easy. So put Joe down for two. Now here's the thing I've got to cut with some good news. The good news is for a donation of $25 or more, we have my, my pastor and he sent his 50 years of exhilarating moments, untold challenges, and many stories in between.

I didn't write that, but it's true. Part one, there's six hours. We have these videos and I talk about things that have happened over the years. We've been involved with, uh, well, in fact that tonight we're going to be playing a clip in the second part of the program. And, um, here that clip we were, I was involved with as we have former FBI, uh, had Ted Gunderson and, uh, we had him on the program. He actually came up here and stayed with us and what happened would take place. We're playing some, uh, some of the, uh, tapes of Ted when he was involved, involved in investigating this child sex trafficking. Anyhow, they finally killed him and he told me, pastor, they're, they're going to try to kill me, but they finally got him.

But anyhow, praise God for, for bold men like him. Anyhow, we have these videos, this DVDs that, uh, it's available and you'll see how, how handsome I was and then what I look like today. And you'll see how time is cruel. Time is cruel. This, well, this, this spans over 50 years.

This video here here. Wow. Praise ancient of days.

Haven't you? Yeah. We said we just, this starts out in the early days, the early days of the 50 years. So anyhow, we have that available, but now here I've got some, uh, some news and I thought, well, we got praise the good Lord pastor Joe too.

And Bob in New York pledges a 500. Thank you. Thank you. And so we're off to a good start matches from any of us. They're there.

There's a whole raft of donations that people can, we'll take a match in any of them. Yep. Right.

Now here's the thing too. Um, the bad news is this. We have to, I have to let folks know we have three stations that are, uh, in their real, real danger of w w we have to drop them this week. This pledge week will, it's going to mean a lot. We, we are really going to need to, uh, hear from you folks out there on these three stations because the one that's in the most danger right now is as WKPRC KPRC K praise 1210 in San Diego. That's in the worst, but right behind it, uh, we have Debbie K K W R D, uh, 1000 points, 100.7 in Dallas.

And then behind that we have WYLL, uh, 1160 in Chicago. Those three stations are in real danger of being dropped and not because we want to, we don't want to at all. We have some really good people out there and, um, you know, and I can tell you this, you know, this, we will fight and we have fought, uh, with everything. I mean, with everything we have, we fought to stay on and we will do that. I will try as hard as I can, but, uh, folks, I need your help to do it.

I can't do it by myself. Now, uh, some of the other stations have been carrying you, uh, those three stations. Uh, and that's the only way they've been here. So, but look at that Dallas, Chicago, and San Diego, three, uh, or three of probably the top five cities in the United States that desperately need to hear your message. Boy, do they especially nowadays because of what's happening and they know that we're not going to, we're not going to compromise. We're going to tell them what's happening. We're not afraid of the Merrick Garland and Chris Ray. We're not afraid. We're going to tell them exactly what's happening and that's what we're going to do tonight. In fact, and so that's why we really need to hear from you folks, especially help us out. We want to stay on those stations. So this is pledge week.

The numbers are 8 8 8 2 8 1 1 1 1 0 or 8 8 8 6 7 7 9 6 7 3. Now we're going to get into the message and uh, Joe, well, some years ago, well, we have a song we play. You remember that song? Judgment train. I hear that train of common cause it's coming around the bin. I wrote that song some years ago and trains called judgment.

Absolutely. And what inspired that song, I watched this movie called purgatory that was on some years ago and in that movie, now there is no purgatory. I want to make, we don't believe in purgatory. There is no purgatory, but some years ago they had this movie and the movie was this sound, this town called purgatory. And what happened is people were, um, they were, they went in, they came in there on the train and according to the, what is the doctrine of purgatory is that it's a holding area. It's a holding area for people.

They're there. And then they get, uh, judged and decide whether they go to heaven or hell. Well, that's okay. It's not biblical at all, but it makes a good movie. And so what happened, uh, when I watched that movie, these people went in and, and then they, they were given, uh, instructions. They had to, they had to live a perfect life.

They couldn't violate any, any laws they had to live. And if they did, uh, then they wouldn't, they were cast right there in purgatory, uh, at the graveyard was a big opening in the ground. And it was a, that was, that was the lake of fire below.

And they were taken there and throw it into the lake of fire. And in that movie, you had good guys and you had the bad guys. And I think you had wild Bill Hickok and Jesse James were the good guys in that movie. And those were the good guys.

Oh boy. Yeah. And so then they fought against the bad guys and they killed him and, and the bad guys got thrown into the lake of fire.

And, and then you see the good guys riding on the train out of purgatory going towards heaven. Okay. But again, like I said, that was just in Hollywood. Yeah.

But anyhow, that was the inspiration for the song. But I said, I'll have to say this, okay, today, uh, there's an old heresy that's been around and it's, it's making us round big time. Uh, about a year or so ago, the Pope made a statement that he, he didn't believe there was a hell that were, that were people went, he didn't believe that there was a place where they were tormented, uh, forever. And of course we know what the Bible teaches and that's what we're going to be on. I'm preaching on hell all this week now, but these, this old heresy, these people, uh, are coming back and you've heard the word of faith movement saying that, uh, repentance, repentance is not necessary for salvation. Uh, they never preached on sin.

They never preached against hell, uh, at all. And so here they, it's a, it's a false doctrine of salvation for everyone. Everyone goes to heaven and this is, it's growing, it's being taught more and more out there today.

And, uh, no, it would be a wonderful thing. Well, if there were no sinner centers and everyone would receive eternal life in heaven, but that's not the reality. The reality is far more people will end up in hell than in heaven.

And so, and we're going to take a look at that here just a minute too. Now hell is described as a state of torment, a fiery existence, a place of the dead. Heaven is above hell is below a literal place of, of, of torment.

It's a spiritual place. Those in that state of torment will end up in the lake of fire. According to the Bible. Now hell is mentioned. Now they say they don't think there's hell. The hell is mentioned 54 times in the Bible, 31 times in the old Testament and the 23 times in the new Testament. And we're going to start tonight in second Corinthians, making God out to be a liar. Right. But in there, uh, yeah, what they do is they just take the scriptures that talk about heaven and talk about eternal life in the, and they use these say right here, this shows you that, uh, the, the people don't go to hell, that they go to heaven, but what they forget to tell you is those that go to heaven are predestined to go to heaven. Uh, those that would go to heaven are those that have repented of their sin and called upon the name of the Lord. Okay.

They leave those places, those parts of that message out. So let's, let's go to second Corinthians. Now chapter 11, we'll start with verse four title judgment trained to hell now. Yep.

All righty. Uh, Ronald and Youngstown pledges 50. Thank you, Ronald.

That number again is 888-281-1110 888-677-9673. And, uh, folks we need here, give me a birthday present folks. Let us stay on those stations.

That would be a big birthday present. I remember Joe and I don't get paid for doing this. We volunteer our time and everyone here has volunteered through time.

The money all goes into the ministry, the radio, especially into the pro-life ministry, saving babies. You are here till midnight, ending your birthday here for everyone listening. That's right. And it won't look a day older, really. Maybe, maybe a couple of days. Alrighty. Let's uh, let's not talk about my looks.

That's a sore subject. Alrighty. Let's go read verse four.

Joe, go on. For if he that come cometh, preach, preachers, another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, he might well bear with him. Alright.

Now that's a very interesting verse. Okay. Uh, because it sounds like, it sounds like you saying that you might as well listen to him, huh? Well, yeah, well, if we bear with something, it means we tolerate it, but bear, the meaning actual here is to push back. To push against, you're right.

The word there means, not the way we usually use it, but there, uh, instead, usually to bear a burden means to hold it, but here it means to push away from it, push it away from us. Right. And so if they come with preaching another Jesus, well, the other Jesus they're preaching out there is one that is tolerant of sin.

Right. When it comes to sin, there's no man that ever walked the earth is less tolerant of sin than the Lord Jesus, especially after what he had to do to pay the price for our sins. And it says, if you receive another spirit, that means any spirit other than the Holy spirit, you're going to hell because that spirit would be that of, uh, or another gospel.

Okay. Which w when this is exactly what they're preaching, they're preaching another gospel gospel, right? Not the gospel once delivered. And so that is the only gospel. Anything else is the forgery of fake fantasy or a fairytale.

Absolutely. Tony and Toronto pledges one 50. Thank you, Tony, eight eight eight two eight one one one one zero or eight eight eight six seven seven nine six seven three. Now go and read verses 12 through 15 Joe. But what I do that I will do that I may cut off occasion from them, which desire occasion that were in they glory, they may be found even as we or such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ and no Marvel for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness whose end shall be according to their works.

Some years ago, Joe, we had, we had a mayor here in Cleveland, mayor white was his name. He, um, he said on imitations, I got an invitation to come down. They wanted to decide whether or not they were going to open all this, the council meetings with prayer or not. So they wanted to hear from the local pastors. So I got invited to come and I went there and there were a number of other, uh, pastors that were real pastors and the Christian pastors, but then there were a number of the apostate there too. And so all the Baptist preachers that were there, uh, you know, made the statement, yes, we, you know, we believe that we know you should open in prayer.

Okay. God's word doesn't stutter when the Bible says pray without ceasing. And so, but the opposition, the, the liberal preachers, the apostate preachers were saying, well, there's people to hear that aren't Christian or might be Muslim or Jewish and you would be offended, uh, to open up a prayer, especially, you know, praying, uh, praying in the name of Jesus, right. And, and so afterwards, you know, when we left there, as I was leaving this tall, skinny apostate preacher came up and said to me, no brothers that pass brother Sanders, he said, now we can agree to disagree. You know, we don't agree on everything, but we're still brothers in the Lord. And I said, no, we're not. You people support abortion.

You people support sodomy. The devil is your daddy and we're not brothers at all. And he just stood there with his eyes wide because that was the truth. He couldn't, what could he say? And I told him, you know, read Matthew chapter 23, you'll find out there's a special hot place in hell for you.

Apostate preachers who knowingly knowingly are leading people right to the gates of hell. I bet he ran off about then. Yeah, he did.

I wonder how I knew when he helped. Now remember, they're, they're telling you there really is no hell. There really is no hell. Joe, I want you to go over to Matthew chapter seven and in Matthew chapter seven. All right.

I want you to start with verse read verse 13 and 14 enter ye in the straight gate for wide is the gate and broad is a way that leadeth to destruction and many there be which go there at because straight is the gate and narrow is the way which leadeth unto life and few there be that find it. So when he says few there be that find it, you know, if I asked you, uh, if I say, what is a single, uh, if I'm asking you about it, a single thing, you would say one, right? Right. If I would say, what about a couple?

What would you say? The duo, the couples usually two, right? And if I said a few, what would you say? Well, if you could be, I call it five or more, but some people say three or more.

Well, few, usually the definition was three or more. Right. And so the Bible makes it very, very clear for the nation of Israel that one third of them, one third, uh, one out of three are going to go to heaven. They're going to receive Christ. Two thirds are going to perish.

Okay. And, and God being immutable does things the same way. And, uh, the church in Israel, remember what it says, whether the Jew Gentile, okay. Uh, they will, Israel will receive Christ as a savior too. So I believe, I believe that that will apply to what is referred to as the church. I believe about one third of those that are professing Christians in the world will be saved.

What do you think? Uh, if you look at it that way, you'd have to believe what scripture said. But in reality, when I look around, it seems like it's going to be a lot less than a third. Yeah, it does seem that way, but we don't know what might happen yet, because remember during the tribulation period, you're going to have 144,000 flaming John the Baptist out there during the tribulation. And the more people I believe are probably going to get saved during that period than up to it. And so very possible because it always seems like the more the church is persecuted, the faster the church grows, right? The blood of the martyrs persecuted church just kind of falls away, right?

The blood of the martyrs are the seeds of the church, right? Already. We're doesn't qualify for a name. Remember me? I helped you get elected, but you haven't done one thing you said you do.

Even know you. I remember you. I'll remember.

I'll remember. I'll remember, I'll remember In November, in November As I step into the little booth I'll remember, in November To vote for anyone but, anyone but you Remember me, I served my country proudly Remember me, I love the USA Remember me, or am I just some bumpkin Who you didn't think would notice The bounce checks and midnight raise Remember me, I wrote you all those letters Thinking that you cared, but I thought too Even though you often just forget to remember I'll remember you I'll remember, I'll remember In November, in November As I step into the little booth I'll remember, in November To vote for anyone but, anyone but you We'll remember, we'll remember In November, in November As we step into the little booth We'll remember, in November To vote for anyone but, anyone but you We'll remember, in November To vote for anyone but, anyone but you We'll remember, we'll remember In November, in November As we step into the little booth We'll remember, we'll remember In November, in November As we step into the little booth We'll remember, we'll remember In November, in November As we step into the little booth We'll remember, we'll remember In November, in November As we step into the little booth We'll remember, we'll remember In November, in November As we step into the little booth We'll remember, we'll remember In November, in November As we step into the little booth We'll remember, we'll remember In November, in November As we step into the little booth We'll remember, we'll remember In November, in November As we step into the little booth We'll remember, we'll remember In November, in November As we step into the little booth We'll remember, we'll remember In November, in November As we step into the little booth We'll remember, we'll remember In November, in November As we step into the little booth We'll remember, we'll remember In November, in November As we step into the little booth We'll remember, we'll remember In November, in November As we step into the little booth We'll remember, we'll remember In November, in November As we step into the little booth We'll remember, we'll remember In November, in November As we step into the little booth We'll remember, we'll remember In November, in November As we step into the little booth We'll remember, we'll remember In November, in November As we step into the little booth We'll remember, we'll remember In November, in November As we step into the little booth And God bless, I listen to hundreds of pastors since I've been incarcerated And I enjoy all of their programs and the deep dives into the Bible And Bible studies and spiritual scriptural messages But there is such a, and they all have their place But there's such a missing component to church Which is trying to win the day here In our current situation Well the Bible says, Jake, that the righteous are as bold as lighting Look, 366 times in the Bible, it says either fear not or be not afraid And we have to do that Look, we're out there, God says he'll give us the victory We gotta be doers of the word, we gotta run to this battle And act like Christian soldiers By the way, Corey is here, break Corey up Hey Corey, are you there? I am here Well, welcome, Jake's here with us too It's so good to hear you pastor Ernie I remember fighting alongside you with Janet Porter and the heartbeat bill in Ohio So what you were talking about, running to the fight You have demonstrated that over and over again brother Well, we all have to do that, that's why God has raised us up for such a time as this Absolutely Corey, Saturday I was there at that meeting at Columbus where you had the Ohio Poor Life Action Committee There were several hundred people there But the thing about it was the spirit to fight, to fight, to fight was there And they were talking about when we do receive a defeat Like with issue one last year, what happens is we just turn around and get ready to go and do the next right thing Let's just do the next right thing You know, we don't lay down and we can't lay down A lot of people get discouraged, but we are not to get discouraged, are we? No, you know, because we have the unstoppable God at our back and all that we do And Jake is one of the best examples of that All of the unjust torture and endless court battles that he faces and he keeps getting backed up I remember Janet during that fight for the heartbeat bill all of those years One thing that she always drilled into our hearts, which we know is a biblical principle It's like it's never the wrong time to do the right thing And this is the hour right now where we must do the right thing on so many fronts The pro-life front, obviously this J6 injustice that's happening So many things in our nation This is our call as believers to come into the battle right now Absolutely, you know, it was very disappointing how the Republican Party has late listened to stand on child killing and abortion But what we're going to do is we're going to put fire to their feet We have to do that We have to raise up And the people, what have people actually realized? I mean for real Think about this If people out there for real understood what God's word the Bible says about having your works follow you to heaven Revelation 14, 14 Your works follow you into heaven Okay, if they understood right now how if they were to be fearless and run to this battle and place up those crowns in heaven How long forever is, okay If they really, really understood that we'd have a whole different country, wouldn't we? We certainly would And it all begins with the fight for the unborn and the innocent because people can look at the battle right now for our J6 brothers and sisters And go, how in the world can anybody treat a human being like that?

Well, we've fostered a culture in our nation where we don't value the innocence of the unborn So how are we going to value any other arena of life? And so we've spoiled down there, but absolutely, you know, Martin Luther says, you know, if we're not fighting where the fire is the hottest We're a traitor to the cause And that is, that's where we're at right now And we have to fight where the fire is the hottest And we don't do it with human zeal and, you know, by, you know, flesh and blood We do it with the power of the Holy Spirit knowing that it matters And it's going to, as you said, it's going to reverberate through heaven for all of eternity Every righteous act that is done under the direction of the Holy Spirit And this is what we're being called to, you know, and I'm glad you're here to fight this battle and lead this charge I've just been so honored to fight with you and Janet and so many others And our brother Jake here is just an inspiration I think he's a picture of what God wants the church to be He sure is. He absolutely is And, you know, I mean, he's there He's there because he tried to save Rosalyn or Roseanne Boylan And that's why he's there And, I mean, it's, so here I'm going to tell you when he gets to heaven He'll be rewarded for that And Roseanne will be He's a modern day, he's a modern day, you know, Paul You know, really, fire shot up in his bones and is really showing the way for the church, I believe, in our nation So these J6 guys, they're not suffering needlessly They are inspiring so many And, you know, I know one of the things we've got to do is make sure they're not They never feel forgotten We've got to make sure that we're staying in contact with them You know, as believers we need to be lifting them up in prayer We absolutely have But we've got to make sure that they're backed up with prayer as well Yeah, we really have to go, you know, when God says prayer and then pray without ceasing Look, we have to do that And then Trump said day one, when he gets into office, he will pardon all the J6ers You know, we've got to be We've got to get him in office And we've got to, right now, what they're doing, Mary Carlin Mary Carlin is completely corrupt There's nothing about that Justice Department that is not corrupt It is corrupt from top to bottom And what they're doing right now is they're adding thousands of new crooked lawyers And what they want to do is they're going to try to make it to where They're going to do what they do, twist and spin the Constitution And to make us say, and this is what they're working on right now is we're here That these new appointments, these new crooked lawyers are permanent They're permanent appointments, they cannot be fired This is what they're working on now And by doing that, they will totally neutralize whatever President Trump tries to do They're trying to do what they call the Trump proofing of the DOJ And as you said, there is nothing righteous, there is nothing just about our Justice Department at all And as you said, President Trump has said that he will pardon these J6ers on day one And we need to make sure that that comes to pass Because this is, apart from the abortion issue, this is the greatest injustice our nation has seen And if anybody thinks, well, it's just those guys, what they're laying the groundwork for in the DOJ And what they've done in hiring the 87,000 new IRS agents They're not going to be satisfied with just the J6 brothers and sisters They're coming for each and every one of us As you've already experienced, I've already experienced And anyone who wants to stand up for a principled, Christ-centered life You will be seen as an enemy of the state And the same measure that is being used against these J6 guys and ladies is coming for us So it's better to fight right now than when it's on our doorstep Absolutely, absolutely We take it to them Absolutely There's no defense in the kingdom James 1.22, be you a doer of the word and not a hearer only, deceiving your own self And so God has given us, he's raised us up Where time is this, now it's time for us to run to this battle And we really need to Absolutely And I wish there was a way we could explain to people just how much that's going to matter The day is going to come You do it every night on the air here, Pastor Ernie I mean your program reaches so many people And you are doing that You are explaining to people what the urgency of the hour is And aligning people really with the ways of God I mean that is part of what has to happen We've got to understand that this is not just a simple election This isn't just simple injustice This is a very real spiritual battle And we need to see, we need to discern and we need to move in action In agreement with what the Lord is doing in trying to Really, the bottom line is to save this nation for its intended purpose Which is to propagate the gospel of the kingdom Absolutely This is pledge week, I've got to get the numbers out because we really have to hear from the folks out there At 888-281-1110 or 888-677-9673 Now Jake, we've got a caller named Isaac, he says he's your friend Yes, this is the January 6th political prisoner and Isaac is my younger brother in the spirit He is just as strong if not stronger than me And a fighter of unbelievable proportions for God's kingdom And I want Isaac to tell his story tonight Because it is so inspiring what this young man has triumphed through in his life He is an inspiration to the whole entire January 6th community And Pastor Cory is his pastor And that's how we got, I mean obviously me and Isaac got connected being a January 6th-er But that's how me and Pastor Cory got connected And so the family of God is growing And that's one of the, I have to say before I bring Isaac on That's one of the unforeseen, beautiful things how God could take what the enemy intended for evil and turn it to our good What they never expected was that through the January 6th persecution Tens of thousands of God's people and patriots would become so tightly interwoven And turn into the next great movement to secure freedom for our posterity They thought that they would strike the shepherd and the sheep would scatter Which is a biblical principle But after the sheep scattered, we all came and met back up and there happened to be hundreds of thousands of more sheep with us When we came and met back up this time And Isaac is a young man, he's the youngest January 6th-er that was incarcerated I've watched him go through multiple birthdays in prison and grow up And he needs no introduction because he's a jammed 6th-er and he's a child of God And that's the biggest thing, but he's got a story to tell So Isaac, my brother, how are you? Okay, bring Isaac up, hey Isaac, are you there? Yeah, hi, thanks for having me, can you guys hear me okay? Yeah, we can hear you, go ahead Awesome, yeah, thank you Jake for the introduction Yeah, Jake's a good brother of mine, we spent a lot of months in solitary confinement together And I'll tell you what, that's one good thing that has came out of this situation It has brought God-loving patriots together And it's created connections and really just a network of God's army, God's soldiers And I think it's amazing to see Jesus take such a terrible situation And use it for good and use it to really wake up our country And I think what happened is America got into our comfort zone And we started to let things slide and we didn't pay attention We weren't in a relationship with God as a country, we weren't serving God And I think that God has given America a chance to really to repent and to turn from their ways And I think that his people, specifically the ones that the government is coming after so hard right now I think that he's calling those people to be an example, all of us, to be an example to the rest of our nation So that people will be able to see what it's like to have God and what it's like to have true joy and peace from the Lord And I think to see a situation like Jake's where he's been in prison for three and a half years without a trial And to see the amount of joy that he has But there's these politicians out here with 20 cars and millions of dollars that they don't even know what to do with And they don't have any joy, no peace Because true joy can only come from Jesus Christ, so it is good to see him using this situation for good And we've got to hold on to that, we've got to know that he is in control And that despite us being taken out of our comfort zone That overall this has been used for his plan and his purpose So thank you guys for having me on tonight Well Pete, thanks for calling, tell us a little bit about what daily life is where you're at Yeah, so I, before this I basically had a really nice job, but I was at a care home, nice little house And then the government came, turned things upside down, put me in jail for a while And then a couple months back, just a couple months ago I got released I've been trying to rebuild my life and also prepare for trial at the same time And also prepare for the fact that they could take all of this away again As soon as I get everything rebuilt But God's been truly blessing me every day He's been allowing me to meet people like Pastor Cory and Jake and so many others across the country And I know we hear a lot of negativity about the corruption and everything But it's nice to focus on the positive connections and stuff that God has brought with us as well So that's basically what has taken up every single day since January 6th Well we see that spirit, the spirit of a soldier out there, a fighter We're seeing what they try to do to President Trump And President Trump is not giving up You can see he's got God's anointing on him And this is what's got to the devil's crowd, and I mean the devil's crowd Listen, what has got them so worried, so upset, so afraid They know he gets back into office Many of these people, they're going to end up Hopefully in that same jail right now that Jake's in They belong to be put right in there for what they did And I'd like to see Mary Garland and Chris Ray as a couple of the first two to go But we've got to be bold, and you're right And Jake, would you tell us what it's like today Your daily life there in jail where you're at, the prison Sure, well first, me and Isaac were incarcerated together in Washington DC jail And we were both in a solitary confinement unit where we only got out of our cell Four or five hours a day, so we were in our cell basically 20 hours a day And he was on the bottom tier for a while And we would come out in a different set of four hours And I would go to his door, and we'd sit and listen to worship music together And pray together, and hang out, and just survive together Cook each other food, if one was in the cell, the other one would bring some food to the other guy And so there's no kind of closer bond that you can forge with men Other than struggling together in an environment and situation like that In the goo lag in the basement of DC jail Where it was damp, and cold, and disgusting, and it was vermin I remember one time, Isaac found a cockroach that was the size of, I don't know, his big thumb And, you know, I think he killed it And he was trying to show the lieutenant at the time that we were having an infestation And they slammed the door in his face and locked him in his cell Trying to, you know, just retaliate against him Because he was like, I want to be P9, or I want a grievance report, I want this reported on And they refused to bring him the paperwork and stuff So I've seen my young brother Isaac fight, fight, fight You know, in every single scenario and circumstance To try to make our environment better and to hold these people accountable That have been abusing us and all of the other J6 patriots And, you know, the abuse never stops when you're in government custody Because, as a lot of people like to say in this movement, the January 6th movement The process is the punishment, the process is the punishment And so they make the process so unconstitutional, so grueling So just bureaucratic and like it's, imagine the same people who run your local DMV run a prison And so everything is mismanaged, disorganized, underfunded Well, it's not underfunded, that's the thing They want to pretend like it's underfunded, but the US Marshals pay the jails that we're at The federal government pays the jails that we're at I think $500 per day to house us as pretrial detainees And, you know, because we have our January 6ers They were able to get all the extra money for labeling us domestic terrorists and stuff But then they treat us and give us, you know, one one-thousandth of that to live on And so, you know, the current conditions I'm at right now I'm in probably the most violent pretrial detention facility in all of America There were back-to-back murders here, violent gang stabbings Where people died with knife wounds to the throat And to other, you know, vital, you know, their stomach They were stabbed 20, 40 times by a gang, by a group of gang members, you know, surrounded and killed That happened twice in July And, you know, it's just, there's lockdowns that happen after that for a month long Where you're stuck inside your cell No showers every three or four days And no phone calls, no anything You can't even communicate to your family So, you know, because this is the good soil here for ministry Because there's no better place to be at than in the lion's den In the midst of the struggle and the battle Because, you know, God blessed the January 6 unit Which was a beautiful, you know, cohesive place There were, you know, little scraps here and there as brothers sometimes with bump heads But it was not a dangerous, you know, evil place Like the place I'm at is But here you have a ministry that is so ripe I mean, the fields are ripe And where are the fellow workers? Fellas, we're coming up to a hard break right now So hang tight in there It's a very short break We'll be back up very shortly So just hang in there, we'll be right back after this one more Now your donations to What's Right, What's Left Ministries 14781 Spearee Road, Newbury, Ohio, 44065 If you missed part of tonight's program You can check out the podcast at thewordcleveland.com Thewordcleveland.com Once again, thank you for listening and supporting What's Right, What's Left Ministries The voice of the Christian resistance Stay tuned, the second hour is coming up next We'll be right back

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