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I can tune into your show and hear the unvarnished truth. Thank you. This is What's Right, What's Left with Pastor Ernie Sanders. Welcome to another edition of What's Right, What's Left on this July 19th, Friday, 24th. And this is Pledge Week, folks. It's Pledge Week.
Boy, it's a Pledge Week. And so we really need to hear from you tonight. And back there on the front of the booth, we have, we've been short all week long, but we have three tonight. So, Aaron is with us. And of course, we have Pastor Richard Lewis and Eric. So, we have a full force.
And then, in the glass cage, guys with the buttons and the dials. And his name is Seth. He's our producer tonight. Hey, Seth. Good evening.
Good evening. And then, live in the studio. Now, there's a cackle. Usually, there's a cackle by this time.
There's a lot of cackles. Seth, the studio's on alarm. Good evening, everyone.
There you go. Now, way out yonder, I have, he's back. He's been going all week.
We've, it's been a pretty tough week for the three of us. And we have Pastor Joe who works and he's, he's back with us tonight. Hey, Joe.
Hey, I'm really glad to be back. I mean, we had no landline, no cell phone, and no internet. And, you know, there in Texas, without any air conditioning, was Big John. Big John. Hey, John. Hey, Pastor Ernie. Yeah, I'm cool, calm, and collected. However, the internet is not working. I have a, what's called a hotspot.
And that works, but really, really, really slow. So I'm here and God bless you and all our listeners. Well, all of us have had a tough week. And, you know, starting with last Saturday, and, you know, of course, President Trump had a bad one. But this was the Christian patriot that was murdered in that failed attempt to assassination against President Trump. And it's showing what a real man and father does.
He, what, covered his wife and children and put his body between the danger and his family. And that's how Christian men live, right? Absolutely.
And how they die. That's what is required, isn't it? It's expected. That's required. Amen.
Okay. And so praise the good Lord. Now, we've had, being on Pledge Week, did not realize, of course, we have to set these things up, waiting events. That was going to be up against the Republican National Convention all week and all.
And so we, this was actually, you know, we've been doing Pledge Week, the worst Pledge Week, especially last night. We were up against President Trump. And so, I mean, we could handle other things like football games and things like that. But, yeah, Trump speaking and, you know, all that stuff I heard, Hulk Hogan was there, all kinds of great stuff. So you can't blame the audience for tuning into that. Yeah, so we really need to hear from the folks tonight.
I mean, we really, really do. It has been tough. So I'm going to give the numbers out. The numbers are 888-281-1110.
That's the credit card line. Again, 888-281-1110 or 888-677-9673, 888-677-9673. They're sitting by ready to, and Seth is ready to put it upon the board so I can announce who's calling and who's pledging. So we definitely, definitely need to hear from you. Being a ministry, we have to pay our bills. And we don't want to be in a bad bind here.
Summers are hard enough. And this last week, for all of us, to give you an idea, really, it's just going to be, the next few months are going to be super important. And this radio show is going to be one of the places that really helps tonight.
We're going to do some stories. There's a lot of possibilities for what's going to happen the next few months. And it's not going to be an easy fight, folks. It's going to be a struggle. And even if we get Donald Trump elected and there is so much damage, so many problems, it's going to take a whole nation working together. And that's the kind of thing where we're going to be very important because it's going to be a God thing. If we get this country turned around, it'll be by the grace of God Almighty.
That's exactly right. So it's going to be by the grace of God. And His people will have to do the heavy lifting. We have to keep our focus on the Lord of Lords and the King of Kings. And so to start tonight, finish off the title of the message was Strictly by the Book. Strictly by the Book.
We talked about that earlier. We heard that often, Strictly by the Book. Today in police work and other things, you'll hear Strictly by the Book. And because of mitigating situations and circumstances, you can't always go by the book.
Except with one exception, and that one exception is God's Word, the Bible, the King James Bible. Amen. Remember the old joke in Vietnam? Obey, you know, the first rule of jungle warfare, obey all rules of jungle warfare. Rule number two, there are no rules.
Rule number three, refer to rule number one. And now let's refer to Romans 14 verses 6 to 13. All right. And let's take it, let's take it a verse at a time. We'll go through this 13, 6 to 13. So go to John verse 6 and then John you read verse 7. So go ahead, Joe. And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people.
All righty. Now Paul had warned that ahead of time, if we preach in the gospel, if an angel, if an angel preach in the gospel, then what we preach let them be accursed. Now here it says that an angel is preaching the gospel. By the way, this is the last time, the final time that the gospel is mentioned in the Bible. And so it's referred to as the everlasting gospel. What did Jesus say in Matthew 24 and 35?
But my word shall never pass. And so here, go to John verse 7. And Pastor Ernie, the setting is very important of this. The setting is the mark of the beast is about to be initiated to everyone on earth. And that's what this whole section of scriptures is about.
Absolutely. Saying with a loud voice, fear God and give glory to him. For the hour of his judgment is come and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of water. So the angel is pointing, and every person on earth is going to hear this, every person is going to be warned. And it's pointing to the Lord God in heaven as the creator.
It's pointing to the Lord God in heaven as the creator. And every person on earth will hear this, okay? Yeah, there will be no excuse, Pastor Ernie.
I know, none. They can't say they were deceived or anything like that because God's warning them from heaven. The angel recognizes that, again, what he's preaching, this is supernatural creation of all things, but the Lord Jesus himself, he was the creator. And the very foundation of the gospel, the gospel concludes his redeeming death and resurrection.
We see that here. Go to verse 8, Joe. And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. Now, this is the first time at the mention of the city of Babylon in the book of Revelation. But it's, of course, we see. It's the whole anti-Christ system coming down, isn't it? Yeah.
The whole New World Order collapsing. It's talking about the revived existence of the capital of the beast himself. And what it's intimating here, it's what it's referring to. And so, he goes on to read verse 8, or verse 9. And the third angel followed them, saying, same with a loud voice, if any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark on his forehead or in his hand.
All right. We've got so many different ways of putting that out today, don't we? And they want to do that, they want to put the mark in your forehead so that when you walk into a store, this is some places, in fact, some places in the banks, and when you walk in, the computer recognizes you and greets you by name. I love talking to computers, don't you, John?
Yeah. What they do, Pastor Ernie, also is they have a fingerprint system. And if you come into the store, you just put your hand over the screen, and they match your fingerprints, and then you can come in. It's getting really digitally invasive and bringing everything into control, where eventually the mark of the beast will be on the right hand or the forehead. They went from the fingerprints to the retina, where it reads your eyes when you come in. Of course, if you're wearing sunglasses, that might be a little harder, huh? But they went to the retina, and so it reads your eyes, and then it announces you, it welcomes you into the bank.
They've done that in some places. He goes on to say, The son shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. Now listen to this next verse, because you have people telling you that everybody's going to get saved. Even the Pope says everybody's going to get saved, right? God didn't say that. Maybe the Pope did, but last time I checked, he isn't God, right? I just got a letter in the mail a couple days ago from some of the listeners out there trying to set me straight, telling me that everybody will be saved in the end.
God is a loving God in a way that was a little bit disrespectful in the way he put it. And the smoke of their torment ascended up forever and ever. Why is it being tormented?
Those that receive the mark of the beast. That's right. So they have no rest day or night. So forever is a long time.
Day or night, it's day or night. And whoever receives the mark of his name, that's pretty easy to understand. Is there any stuttering in that verse at all? No, the mark of his name, the mark of the beast, yeah. It's pretty clear.
You're told not to take it, and if you do, this is what will happen. I mean, that's in plain blunt English. Absolutely.
Now here's the patience of the saints. Here are they that keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. Well, that's mentioned several times. In fact, I think if you go over to 13, verse 10.
Oh yeah. He says this. He that leadeth the captivity shall go into captivity. He that leadeth with the sword shall be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. And here again he says, here is the patience of the saints. Here are they that keep the commandments of God and faith of Jesus. That patience is what we call saving faith or enduring faith, right?
Yeah. So as we continue, he says, And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth, yea, save the spirit that they may rest from their labors, and their works do follow them. Now, that is the key part of the scripture. And their works do follow them.
What does that mean? And their works do follow them. Their faith and their good works will stay, will be lasting, will follow them all the way to heaven.
Until the tribulation period. So we are in heaven, in 1 Corinthians chapter 3 it says, Place up your crowns in heaven, and if your works be gold, silver, and precious stones, or wood, hay, and stubble. Okay, so tell me John, what exactly does that mean? Well Pastor Ernie, gold and silver and precious stones have great value, great worth. And those to God, the great value, the great worth are those things that are done for God's glory, to advance his kingdom, to win souls, to help disciple people. Wood, hay, and stubble are things that we do to build our own kingdom here on earth, to make money, let's say, using the gospel to make money.
Things like that, Pastor Ernie. So there's two ways we, what's the word? The way we build, or the things that come tongue tied. The good works that last for eternity are those things we do to advance the kingdom of Jesus Christ here on earth.
And we do it to bless God, and to bless people, and not with selfish motives. This is a work somebody tried by fire. A work somebody tried by fire, and so if you take gold and silver and diamonds and put them through the fire, what happens to them? Well, if it's pure gold and it's pure silver and diamonds, nothing. They become purer. They become purer.
The diamonds, nothing happens to them. They become purer, you know, so our works, in other words, when we get persecuted for our works, you know, whatever works they have, they become purer under our persecution. And so, I want to stop there, but you know what I want to do? I want to go over to, John, you read Leviticus chapter 8 verse 24. Leviticus 8, 24. And, Joe, you be ready to read 1 Peter 2, 9. 1 Peter 2, 9, okay. Yeah, but go ahead, John, and read Leviticus chapter 8 verse 24. Leviticus 8, 24. And he brought Aaron's sons, and Moses put of the blood upon the tip of their right ear, and upon the thumbs of their right hands, and upon the great toes of their right feet. And Moses sprinkled the blood upon the altar round about.
Okay, so now, it has to do, how would that apply to President Trump? Because here, this is an anointing, and the anointing here was placed on the right ear. Now, the right ear, that was meant that the priest was to hear and obey the words of God. Hear and obey the words of God. That always refers to turning towards righteousness.
The left always turns to unrighteousness here. Repeat that, it was Leviticus what? Chapter what? Leviticus chapter 8 verse 24.
24, that is amazing. I don't think too many people know that or have ever heard that, Pastor Ernie. Well, that's why they listen to us, Joe. That's why during Pledge Week you need to listen to this radio ministry, folks.
You will learn something you won't learn anywhere else. So, the idea on the ears is to hear the word of God and obey the word of God. The idea on their right hands, the thumbs, the big thumbs, is to do the word of God. It's to do the word of God and the idea on their big toes is to walk in the ways of the Lord, to walk in the paths of the Lord. This is what the significance means.
So, how does that apply to us, Joe? Do you have it in First Peter 2 and 9? This will clarify it quite a bit. But ye, means those of us who are born-again believers, are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people, that ye should show forth the praises of Him who hath called you out of darkness into His marvelous light.
Okay. But we ought to read 10 too. Well, yeah, go ahead and read 10 too, yeah. Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God, the sons and daughters of God, which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy. Well, here's the interesting thing, because if you look here, and this is written in the Greek, and the word, therefore, generation is not the normal word that we use for generation. Actually, the word there, genox, means kindred, it says, but you are a chosen kindred, a royal priesthood, and a holy nation, a peculiar people. Well, we've been called a peculiar before, haven't we?
All three of us, especially. Yeah, and that you should show forth the praises of Him who had called you out of darkness into this marvelous light. So, before the temple was rent at Calvary, before the veil of the temple was rent, you had to go and take it to a priest and offer a sacrifice and that priest would offer it up for you, right? But after the veil of the temple was rent, how did that change? There was never again a sacrifice in that temple.
Well, that's true. Because we are now, our bodies are a living sacrifice, and our body becomes the temple of God because we have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. What happened to the office of the priesthood, then?
It went away. And so now we're a nation of priests. We have the indwelling of the high priest himself and us.
Okay, go ahead, John. We've switched from heaven to earth where Jesus Christ is in our heavenly high priest. So, how many heavenly high priests do we have? One. So, there's only one. It's essentially between God and man, right?
Right. Yeah, and the Bible, it's kind of an odd name, but the Bible refers to Jesus Christ as our high priest after the order of Melchizedek. And that Melchizedek didn't have a father or a mother, there's no genealogy, and that's why he's likened to Jesus. So, Jesus is our high priest. He's not a high priest like at the Aaron where there's genealogy. He is a high priest by oath, by oath of the father.
Most of the theologians believe that because it's simply the manifestation of the Lord Jesus, because Christ, you know, appeared in Christophanies in many different ways. Right. But the phone number out, folks, this is pledge week 888-281-1110. We need to hear from you. We really need to hear from you. Or 888-677-9673. 888-677-9673. Credit card number is 888-281-1110. We need to hear from you.
The lines are open. So, we're going to bring you the Brunson case. For two years, we worked with the Brunssons.
We put them on here, let them, they didn't give up, the three brothers. They kept bringing cases before the courts. Basically, they did the legality.
They wanted to sue Congress because of a law that would happen on January 6th. They violated the Constitution. They voted, your vote might vote to be stolen. That election was corrupt.
That election was a stolen election. We know it, you know it, everybody knows it. And the Supreme Court knows it.
Okay. So, finally, I'm going to play the tape and see what these guys went through. But the interesting thing is the Supreme Court could not give them a reason. They could not tell them and give them the law of why they turned their case down. And I find that very interesting.
So, go ahead and Seth, would you blame that clip? In a rare move within the U.S. Supreme Court, three justices recuse themselves from a case related to the 2020 presidential election. Specifically, all three of the liberal justices on the court, Alina Kagan, Sonia Sotomayor, as well as Katanji Brown Jackson, all three of them recuse themselves from a lawsuit that's currently on the Supreme Court docket.
Although, this whole thing requires a bit of backstory. All the way back in the year 2021, a man from Utah named Roland Bronson filed a massive lawsuit against hundreds of members of Congress. His central claim was that they violated their oath of office by not investigating allegations of election fraud prior to certifying the election winner. The list of respondents in the case was rather long.
In fact, it was 388 names long. However, because Congresswoman Alma Adams from North Carolina appeared alphabetically first, the case was given the title Bronson versus Adams. Now, obviously, this is a rather unorthodox type of lawsuit, where Mr. Bronson was making the central argument that, avoiding an investigation of how Biden won the election is an act of treason and an act of levying war against the U.S. Constitution, which violated my unfettered right to vote in an honest and fair election, and as such, it wrongfully invalidated my vote.
And ultimately, he was seeking the very lofty remedy of having Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, as well as the hundreds of members of Congress removed from office. Now, as you would imagine, the lawsuit was dismissed by both the lower courts as well as the appeals court. However, Mr. Bronson then appealed the case all the way up to the U.S. Supreme Court, who back in January of last year likewise rejected his petition. Quote, In that appeal, the U.S. Supreme Court denied the petition for certiorari, or review, in an unsigned order on January 9, 2023. No justices dissented.
No reason was provided for the decision. At least four of the nine justices have to vote to approve a petition of certiorari for it to advance to the oral argument stage. A month later, Mr. Bronson tried again to get a rehearing on the case, but that was also denied. Quote, The court denied a petition for rehearing on February 21, 2023 in an unsigned order without providing a reason. No justices dissented.
But, as is becoming clear, Mr. Bronson does not appear to be the type of man to give up so easily. That's because, after having his case denied by the appellate court as well as the U.S. Supreme Court, he went ahead and filed this new lawsuit right here, called Bronson v. Sotomayor, wherein he accused the three liberal justices of the court of violating their judicial oath. Specifically, Mr. Bronson, he argued that, quote, The three justices violated their oath of office by giving aid and comfort to enemies of the Constitution, which is an act of treason, fraud, and a breach of contract. Meaning that he took the unusual step of suing the Supreme Court justices themselves for denying his earlier appeal. Now, the second lawsuit of his bounced around the system quite a bit, starting initially within the state's court system before moving on to the federal district court. Quote, The lawsuit began in state court, but the justices, as federal officers, had the case removed to the federal district court. The district court found that the state court lacked jurisdiction in the suit, holding that the official capacity claims against the justices were tantamount to claims against the United States, which enjoy sovereign immunity.
Sovereign immunity is the legal doctrine that the government cannot be sued without its consent. Essentially, after the case was moved from the state circuit to the federal circuit, it was ultimately dismissed because the finding, at least, was that the Supreme Court justices enjoyed sovereign immunity. Mr. Bronson, then, he appealed that decision to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 10th Circuit, arguing that, quote, The doctrine of sovereign immunity runs afoul of the First Amendment's right to petition for redress of grievances. Now, the appellate court did not buy that argument, and back in February of this year, they ruled against Mr. Bronson.
However, he's obviously a man on a mission, and as such, Mr. Bronson appealed again to the U.S. Supreme Court itself. Now, in this case, the Solicitor General of the United States, Ms. Elizabeth Prelliger, she functioned as essentially the attorney for the Supreme Court justices being sued. And on May 2nd of this year, she waived the U.S. government's right to respond to the petition, leaving the decision up to the Supreme Court justices themselves.
And just yesterday, the following happened. Quote, In a rare move, all three liberal Supreme Court justices recuse themselves, citing judicial disqualification mandates in the U.S. Code and the Code of Conduct for Justices of the Supreme Court of the United States, which was adopted in November of 2023. Essentially, they recuse themselves from the case because the case involved them. However, despite that fact, the petition for the case to be taken up was still ultimately rejected. Quote, The Supreme Court denied the petition for review in Bronson v. Sotomayor in an unsigned order without providing a reason.
No justices dissented, but Justices Sotomayor, Kagan and Jackson did not participate in the ruling. And so with that, the case has met its end, at least for now. However, perhaps the most interesting aspect of this entire case is that the whole thing was done as a petitioner in pro se, meaning that Mr. Bronson did not have a lawyer, but rather he was representing the case himself, making it all the way up to the U.S. Supreme Court, not once, but twice. If nothing else, these chaotic lawsuits, they do show that a single man can push the envelope quite far.
That's right. And I praise the good Lord. That's why we put him on the radio program so many times. They could not give him the reason why they rejected his.
Now, we have a fellow here tonight. They could not, would not. And here we have a fellow right here, Pastor Richard, who spent 10 years in prison.
Why? He petitioned the court to show him the law on which they were prosecuting some of the people. They refused to do it. They couldn't do it because they, and so he continued. Now, they told him, quit asking us.
We're not going to tell you. But he kept petitioning the court and referred to it as paper terrorism. Paper terrorism, yeah. They were supposed to, John, you know, when you petition the court, it's supposed to answer you. That's why they're there, aren't they? Well, that's right, Pastor Ernie, and your charges are supposed to be crystal clear. There's an indictment, and the charges that you're indicted against are supposed to be spelled out according to the law. You're not just supposed to be charged that you're a criminal.
The charges have to be there for you to answer to. Absolutely. New evidence on earth. Email shows Latita James' office, corresponding with the Biden DOJ hatchet man, Matthew Colangelo, about a plan to get Trump. We'll talk about that in a minute, but Paul in Texas pledged 50, and Jim in Michigan pledges 100. Thank you, Paul.
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That's 888-677-9673. Tell them, fellas, they've got to help us out. This ministry has done so much for so many people. We reached millions of people through this radio ministry and through the newsletter that's been passed on by one listener to other family members and friends and churches. And for so long, we've preached the gospel, been telling the truth, been a watchman on the wall. And it's just this is the time we need to get people, especially Christians, to be motivated to get out there and vote. One of the last elections, there was like, what, three to five million Christians, supposedly, quote, Christian.
Stayed home, didn't bother to vote. And we need to reach as many people as possible. So many people think, oh, Trump's going to win.
It's going to be a landslide. Well, the other side, evil always cheats. Evil always will come up with surprises and do things that are unexpected. And we are fighting a very powerful enemy. And God wants his people. Now is the time to lay up some crowns and treasures in heaven. He's given us an opportunity to run to the battle and show him our obedience. And we need to be on the air to help lead the Christian soldiers to battle because that's what's going to make a difference in the eyes of God.
It's my people repent and turn from their ways. And one of the ways we sin the worst is the sin of omission. When we didn't do something to stop the murder of his children, when we didn't, when I say we in general out there, the church didn't go to bat and fight abortion or fight child trafficking when we were silent, when we should have been rising and screaming and saying, no, not in my watch.
That is what God means when he says, if my people repent of their sin, their sins of omission, we let things happen. We never should have let happen. We did rise and scream. We did. The church in general was silent.
Most of the pulp in this country had been silent politically. And I can say that about you and John. You guys were in the fight from the beginning.
You didn't back down. Everyone in Manitoba, Canada pledges 50. Thank you Edwin.
Thank you. Up in Canada, he knows up there, the religious persecution is going strong and we will be like Canada if this country doesn't wake up and realize this is a battle. It's more than a political battle. It's a battle for the heart and soul. It's really a spiritual battle between the children of God and the Antichrist system.
Absolutely. And you know, one of the things that's happening, and President Trump talked about this, the warfare, what they're using. Jesus said the children of darkness know more about our lives here when it comes to the ways of this world than the children of light. And they are. They're much wiser where it comes to, like you said, to cheating, okay.
And of course, here. Cheating, lying, manipulating, you know, underhanded, what's the word they're using, gaslighting. I've got all these terms now really for what, lies, or either lies of co-mission or omission, but gaslighting is a term that's been used much out there to explain it. Okay, how should this committee, led by Chairman Jim Jordan, unveil a report on welfare, how the Manhattan District Attorney's Office and a New York State judge violated the constitutional and legal rights of President Donald Trump.
We all knew that, okay. The report scrutinizes D.A. Alvin Bragg's 34 criminal indictment against Trump, which was announced. The House Judiciary Committee obtained a December 2022 email conversation between Biden's DOJ hatchet man, Matthew Colangelo, the number two guy, or number three, there at the Justice Department, and he gave that up, that high-paying job, and went there. Of course, you know he had to be getting paid big time by the Communist Party.
And he goes there to work with Alvin Bragg. Again, this is a law affair. And remember, remember when Biden said that he was going to stop Trump, Trump would never be elected, that he was going to stop him from running. Exactly. And he had that little smirk on his face, this law affair thing.
It didn't work too well for him, did it? Well, he also said, you know, we've got to put the bullseye on Trump. And the whole left has been using all kinds of terminology to a deranged person. And if you're a liberal, I'm sorry, you're deranged because you're anti-Christ, you're against God, you're God is the devil, Satan, so you're not in very good shape. And all of them have been talking about, in fact, some of them even had a, what was it, a secret service or FBI, was going, they were really upset when the shooter didn't hit Trump, didn't kill Trump. And I haven't even heard that that person's been fired yet.
So the left is really totally wicked and evil. You know, this thing, too, with this Kimberly Cheatley. Ms. DEI, we are going to hire all these DEI people, all the women and all the other things. And it's not going to be about merit. It's going to be about who and what you are, not what your abilities and capabilities are. And you do the job. And that's why they had, what do you notice, remember, John, they had two or three women who were rather short.
And you can't, if you're short, can't stand up and protect somebody that's quite tall, right? Not only that, but they were transferred, some of these were not secret service agents at all. Right, they were from the Department of Homeland Security. And I don't think most people know that, do you?
Right. And it's from Fox News. Majority of Trump's security detail were not secret service.
Whistleblowers told Senator Hawley here in Missouri, told Josh Hawley. And they were from Department of Homeland Security. And the thing is, those people, although they're professionals, they are not trained like the Secret Service. One, they have a big lack of personnel there.
They have, you know, all kinds of problems. But these people were not, they were some kind of other USS agents. And they were drawn from the Homeland Security's security investigation.
In other words, they investigate security breaches. Well, that is no, there's no training in how to protect someone there. They were not familiar with the protocols. They weren't, you know, the rules of engagement or anything. And that's why some of the orders were, you know, had to be fuddled back through chain of command because these people didn't know what to do without being told. So here, this is, why were they there?
What on earth were security investigative personnel doing on security details, right? Well, Senator Hawley, he's a pretty smart fellow. And he didn't answer to all of that. And his response was, this was not just to do, okay, to people that were incompetent. This was a setup.
This was a setup to get President Trump. And that's right. Or to leave him vulnerable. Yep.
Either way, even if you're just leaving somebody vulnerable, you're still guilty, right? Yeah. John was a 26-year Special U.S. Treasury agent. He knew.
We got it, John. Well, Pastor Ernie, there's phases to the Secret Service. There's an advanced team that goes in and takes the lay of the land. And they set everything up for the main team to come. And the main team then has positions where they coordinate.
They look at certain areas. They have certain responsibilities. And then when the President comes, or in this case, President Trump, when he comes, he has a certain team that is around him.
So there's phases of it. And they all have to be coordinated very precisely. And you just can't grab other agents, like me. I was a Treasury agent. Back then, the Secret Service was in the Treasury Department. And because I was in the Treasury Department, I could automatically work with the Secret Service. So they would, like when the President came to Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, and they'd have everything all set. And they would tell me, okay, your job is to be here and stay here. Basically, it was positions that weren't that taxing, let's say, where you just had to fill a spot, because I was not Secret Service. So to call all of these agents from not Secret Service and to put them in there, Pastor Ernie, it just doesn't happen. Well, they obviously did it, but in real Secret Service, how they act, that never happens. They would call it off before they would do that. Absolutely. Exactly. Just think, here's this rooftop 130 yards away. There is not a combat grunt in the world that doesn't understand the danger of high positions.
Anybody that was heartbreak rich. Just a minute, Joe. Joe, I've got an announcement. We have a fellow who, Hal Werner from Heritage Club, he needs to make an announcement.
He's been doing it for 50 years or so. Okay, Hal, go ahead and make your announcement about this weekend. Hello, everyone. Hello.
Hello, everyone. This is Hal Werner, the President of the Heritage Club of Northeast Ohio. I just wanted to speak a little bit, and thank you so much, Pastor Sanders, for allowing me to speak to the people out there. Hal Werner, again, President of the Heritage Club, and I wanted to mention about our event, our four-year annual year, and that will be September 7th. And that will be the Heritage Club of Northeast Ohio, today, a Christian patriotic rally that will have Bible-believing Christians down there, of course, churches, pastors that will be up on the gazebo, the gazebo decorated red, white, and blue.
And again, pastors ringing out the gospel, ringing out the word. We're going to have conservative public officials that are born again, and there are conservative patriots. And so, we will have food, entertainment. We'll have different entities with tents.
Last year, we had Pro-Life and, of course, other canopies. And so, yes, we're going to have reenactment of George Washington walking around. So, any questions, Pastor Sanders? No, I'm looking forward to it, and I was at it last year, and I'm looking forward to being there again this year. Do you need reservations?
No, I don't think you do. No reservations. Come on down and enjoy the time.
And the main emphasis is the Christianity and true conservative patriotism. We need Christians. We need Christians to come down and enjoy the day. And hopefully, we're going to save some souls that are lost. Very good.
Make sure you give me the announcement, if you can, to go ahead and email me one of the sheets, and we'll be making that announcement as we get closer. I appreciate it, and you take care. Have a great night.
And stand up for America. And God bless, my friend. Thanks for calling. Already here, we have London, Michigan, Pledges 300.
Thank you, Lou, and 888-281-1110, 888-281-1110, or 888-677-9673. Okay, I've already pledged, because twice this week I've pledged a thousand, and I'm going to do it another again, one more time, because we're up against it. And again, like Habakkuk and like, again, Job said, you know, when things did not go very well for them, but even that, Job said, you know, should I get just plain good from the Lord and also not evil? You know, in other words, that's a test for us. We get tested when times get tough, and they say that when the times get tough, the tough get going. And we've had some tough times over the last 50 years, but we've never stepped down.
And he said it's not how good a man stands on his feet, but it's how good he gets up when he's knocked down. And that's what we have to do. We have to continue. Because it's not over until we win. The Lord Jesus said he'll take care of that victory part. He'll bring it with him.
But we have to run to the fight, don't we, fellas? Amen. And he gives us all different ways to fight the battle. There's a lot of different things everyone can do. He gives everyone the ability to do something, something important. Absolutely.
It's 8281-1110, credit card line, or 888-677-9673. There's some, you know, I'm getting these texts and they're talking about, you know, Joe Biden. Now, Joe Biden right now, I don't think it's, you know, he's a wicked evil man.
He's a wicked evil man, for sure. But I don't think it's right for them to, there's a lot of people that are making mockeries, mockeries of the fact that he's become senile. And, you know, I don't think the Lord would be pleased with that, okay? No. And so, you know, I don't really find that funny. And I know everybody's sending me all kinds of texts and that, laughing, you know. But I think the chickens have come home to rest with Joe.
What do you guys think? Well, Pastor Ernie, I look at this sort of in a big picture. He has mocked God openly with, he wants to kill virtually every baby that's out there in the womb. And then once they get out of the womb, he wants to indoctrinate them with all sorts of propaganda, with drugs. He wants to change little boys into girls, little girls into boys. So, and then he, June was, I don't know, whatever they call it, LGBT month. And he had all sorts of outrageous activity in the White House.
Like that, this is all sin in your face of marriage, marriage, camped with marriage between a man and a woman. And now, Pastor Ernie, he's being, the whole world sees, he's being mocked now. Right. And he won't, apparently won't back down. He's, you hear every day, you hear he's not going to make the weekend, he's not going to make the weekend.
Well, we'll see. But he's not in, so he's not, he's standing up and the more he talks now, the more pathetic it is Pastor Ernie. He's being mocked everywhere. I have a tape of him, it's on a cassette tape where he came out and said abortion is black genocide, abortion is murder, and that had not been for his aunt, he would have been aborted himself.
And there's no way you could ever justify abortion. And then they told him, look Jesse, if you want to rise up in the world of politics, you're going to have to sell your soul, son. And then he turned around and he sold his soul, didn't he? Yep, he denied a lot of the things that he stood for.
Yeah. Yeah, a lot of them did that, Pastor Ernie. Jesse Jackson was another one that did that. Yeah, that's what we were talking about, Jesse Jackson. Yeah, Jackson.
And yeah. Bill Sharpton started off a little different and got worse. There's quite a few, but to Biden, you know, Biden is being humiliated and is scriptural, but still we have to remember instead of mocking Biden and laughing, we could realize that, hey, you know, we better make sure we stay in the straight and narrow. God is not mocked and we are to what? Be obedient and humble.
And our job is not to make fun of other people. But if he's being punished, the one who knows is God, nobody else. And if it's God doing it, we're, we better be careful what we say. Well, I think what you're saying, Joe, you'll find that right in Proverbs, in the book of Proverbs chapter 24. In fact, let me read it to you here.
And I got to do it in a hurry because we're coming up to break. Rejoice not when the enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he's done with. Let the Lord see it, and it displease him and turn away his wrath from him. Okay.
That's pretty clear to me. What verse is that? It's 24 verse what? 24, gee, I just closed the Bible.
I think it was verse 16. We're coming up to break, folks, now. Right. We'll be right back after this with more. Don't go away. More to come.
