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So go ahead and take her away. Sheriffs have an obligation to stand up for the rights of the people, to stand up for the U.S. Constitution, no matter what the deep state or the federal government or anybody else thinks about it. And this is true in elections. This is true on border issues.

This is true on the God-given rights of citizens. And it's a critical tool that Americans can use to stop the deep state, as I learned recently from my trip to the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association meeting in Las Vegas. Stay tuned and I'll tell you more. Welcome, everybody, to another episode of Behind the Deep State. I am your host, Alex Newman.

Thanks so much for joining us today. I just got back from the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association meeting in Las Vegas. It was held on April 17th.

It was called Resist the Temptation. And it was really an incredible summit. So much going on, so many speakers. I was blessed to speak there on the importance of the oath of office, the history, the biblical foundations of America's legal system, and of course, the biblical duty to resist tyranny, even in the face of a tyrant who may be a higher magistrate.

I also got to emcee the event, so I got to interact with a lot of the speakers. In fact, for The New American magazine, we interviewed almost all the key speakers. You can go check that out. It's all at if you would like to.

And I encourage you to do that. We'll show a few clips from these interviews today. We'll share just a little bit from that, but there's so much more where this came from. One of the big themes, obviously, was what sheriffs can do about the onslaught that we are facing right now in this country.

The onslaught, the attack on our rights, the open border, the massive levels of election fraud that are going on that we are not supposed to be talking about. And so at this conference, you had a lot of speakers. You had sheriffs, you had media personalities, you had victims of vicious political persecution, you had businessmen, you had military leaders. General Mike Flynn was there. Mike Lindell was there.

Wayne Allen Root was there. A lot of sheriffs. And one of the clear messages from this event was that the U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of the land and that sheriffs swear an oath to the Constitution. They don't swear an oath to Joe Biden or to their governor. They swear an oath to the U.S. Constitution and also to their state constitution. And that oath is absolutely critical. That oath is sacred, right?

They put their hand on a Bible and they swear that they're going to uphold and defend the U.S. Constitution. And again, that applies to all different areas of life. That applies to protection, of course, from criminals, the protection of life, liberty, property, et cetera. But it also applies to prosecuting election crimes, people who are trying to take, hijack control of our government. It applies to the surge in illegal immigration and how Joe Biden now is trying to use this massive illegal immigration to corrupt our elections process further.

It applies to the protection of the people of each county from lawlessness. And so sheriffs shared this information. Other leaders had the opportunity to share this information. It was a really, really great conference. The whole thing was broadcast by Lindell TV. Apparently 50,000 people watched it live and a lot of people are still watching it now.

The fake media was just crawling all over the place. MSLSD, I mean, MSNBC was there. They had a reporter, Brandy something. I didn't recognize her, but one of the other guys from the conference recognized her and said, hey, Alex, is that Brandy? Whatever her name is.

And I said, I don't know who that is. Oh, well, she is vicious. She's a liar.

She's so dishonest. Well, sure enough, the article that she published on NBC News was a total misrepresentation of what happened at the summit, a total misrepresentation of what was said of what the CSPOA teaches. You had the Guardian, the UK Guardian, a far left major newspaper reporting on the summit. You had the Daily Mail. You had the Associated Press was there. You had a lot of prominent media at this event. And I mean, I guess it shows that they are concerned about the significance of these sheriffs.

They're concerned that if sheriffs actually wake up and do their duty, the totalitarians are going to have a real problem trying to impose their evil agenda on all of us. So I had the opportunity to interview some of these incredible speakers who were there. One that really, really jumped out at me was Sheriff Glenn Hamilton. He's from Sierra County in New Mexico.

And his story is just incredible. So you had basically the totalitarian governor of New Mexico decided that they were going to shut down all of the churches. They said the churches were unessential, nonessential, and therefore they all had to shut down. Well, the pastor, Caleb Cooper of New Hope Revival Church, I believe it was called, was ordered to shut down his church. And the state police called him in for a meeting. And they said, hey, imagine how terrible it would be if somebody were to die because your church stayed open. And his response was positively brilliant. He said, yeah, imagine if somebody were to die without hearing the gospel and then spend eternity in hell because the church didn't stay open.

So, you know, kindly, we're not going to be closing our church. So he connected with Sheriff Glenn Hamilton and the sheriff knew that he wasn't going to be shutting down this church. He tried to intervene with the state police.

Didn't work. So he eventually went in and deputized the entire congregation. He made them all into sheriff's deputies.

He went into the church. They all took the oath of office. And that way, law enforcement was exempt. And so they were all sheriff's deputies.

They could continue to meet for important purposes. I want to show you this little excerpt of the interview that we did with the sheriff. It was just so powerful. You should check out the whole thing at The New American. But here is a little excerpt from that. When I was first elected to the office, everyone told me that, you know, sheriff, you're going to leave a legacy behind and only you have control over what that legacy is. So when the when the restrictions started coming down during during COVID, again, we were getting these orders from the governor's office. And in some cases, there were three and four amendments per day.

I had a staff member, one of my staff members whose sole job was essentially to keep track of these orders and the changes that were coming down. So when the pastor came to my office and informed me that the governor's just sent out a an amber alert, truly something that you would normally get over your phone when there's some kind of a local emergency, you use the amber alert system when there's a an abducted child, use this to notify the churches and the citizens throughout New Mexico that the churches had just been deemed unnecessary and and that they were to close down. And keep in mind, this was the eve of Easter.

Unbelievable. Ladies and gentlemen, church is unessential. You can't have church. You can have abortions. You can have liquor, but you can't have church continuing here with this sheriff. Listen to this.

This is what he did. Pastor said one of the most profound statements that he made during this whole thing is the only thing, Sheriff, that is worse than dying from the COVID is to have somebody who needed to come to my church and accept the Lord Jesus Christ into their heart. And that they were unable to get that opportunity and they died of COVID without receiving Jesus Christ as their savior and burning in hell for eternity. You imagine?

How can you say no to something like that? I would have walked through hell itself if need be in order to ensure that those doors stayed open. And I think that that message has been has been resounded. Amen, Sheriff. We so appreciate you standing firm. And, you know, now now we look back and it's kind of obvious that the totalitarians were out of control. But at the time, there was a lot of fear, even among people who understand the Constitution, even among people who realize that the government lies about virtually everything. There was a lot of concern. And so it took a tremendous amount of courage for Pastor Caleb, Caleb Cooper and for Sheriff Glenn Hamilton to stand firm and say, no, we are not going to allow that.

We are not going to shut down this church. And this whole idea of deputizing citizens, it's kind of been lost in our culture, unfortunately. But this has been a long tradition of sheriffs going back hundreds of years. They didn't have the manpower to stop an insurrection, a rebellion, a criminal gang that was running through the county. So they oftentimes relied on the able bodied male citizens of the county to help enforce the law.

And it's a critical thing that we remember, especially in these troubling times that we're coming to. I mean, we all remember what happened in 2020, burning down our cities, law enforcement, nowhere to be found, people shooting cops. You know, that is the time when it's appropriate to call out a posse to deputize citizens and say, look, we need help enforcing the law. We need help maintaining law and order. And so the able bodied, trustworthy citizens of this community should come out and should be deputized. And there was actually a sheriff at the summit who spoke on this very issue.

Sheriff Bob Songer of Klickitat County in Washington. He has deputized about 150 citizens in his county. Obviously, he does background checks first, make sure they're not criminals, make sure that they can be trusted.

But he's deputized 150 citizens in his community to help him in his duty. So it saves a lot of money for taxpayers. It supplements the resources of the sheriff's office. It allows the real deputies to focus on other things. So when we get back from this quick break, I'm going to play a little clip from that interview with Sheriff Songer. It's just so critical. And I hope you'll share this with your sheriff's.

Ladies and gentlemen, make an appointment with them, make a meeting with them and tell them about this. So we'll be right back on the other side of this break. We'll hear from Sheriff Bob Songer. Remember when the only uncertainty in news was the weather forecast? Now our world is clouded by half-truths, misdirection and gaslighting.

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Thanks so much for being with us. Before we went to break, we were talking about some of the sheriff's. I had the opportunity to interview at the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association convention in Las Vegas.

It was called Resist the Temptation. Resist the temptation to go along with the tyrants. Resist the temptation to take federal money in exchange for your soul or your authority or your conscience.

Resist the temptation to go along to get along and oppress the citizens of your county. A little bit of background before we get to Sheriff Bob Songer. If you're not familiar with the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association, I'll share with you in a moment.

Sheriff Richard Mack is the founder. He actually refused as a sheriff in Arizona to enforce Bill Clinton's and the Brady bill, that nasty piece of gun control. And it ended up in court, of course, and it went all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court. And the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the sheriff is absolutely not obligated to enforce federal mandates, statutes, regulations, decrees, et cetera. The sheriff doesn't work for the federal government. And so the Supreme Court articulated in that decision, 1997, Prince versus United States, the authority of the sheriff and also what's called the anti-commandeering doctrine. They said the federal government cannot order the states or the county governments, the sheriffs, to do things to participate in the enforcement of statutes or whatever else in constitutional law otherwise.

Right. The sheriff doesn't work for the federal government. The sheriff works for the citizens of his county and he is obligated to uphold his oath of office. And that's it. Now, the next sheriff I want to share with you, this is Sheriff Bob Songer of Klickitat County.

He deputized 150 so far in his community, driving the radical left crazy. But listen to his rationale here. Your topic today was setting up a constitutional posse in your county. For the folks out there who maybe aren't familiar with the law enforcement lingo, maybe they don't watch a lot of Western movies. What does it mean to set up a posse and what does it mean to have a constitutional posse? Well, it really is not called a constitutional posse.

It's a posse, sheriff's posse. In 2014, when I first elected sheriff, we had a manpower shortage like most agencies have. So what I did, I did a community policing thing. I reached out to the community and got volunteer citizens. And we do a background check to make sure they're not convicted felons or child molesters or anything like that.

They got a clean record. And it's all volunteer on their part. And we have good citizens of the county to assist the sheriff in his duties within the county. I would point out I've got about 150 posse members.

And I started that program in 2015 when I took office. And my God, the far left just went nuts. Sheriff Saunders out there, he's got a posse.

He's going to be tracking down immigrants and hanging people from oak trees. No, I'm serious. Of course, I wasn't the majority of the people saying that.

But there was that far left woke group that just literally hates me anyway. And furthers from the truth, first of all, the posse has no arrest authority. It's like a county wide crime watch. They go through training each month. We have some training we go through with them.

And we have three divisions that make west end of the county central division of the county and then the far east end of the county. And these are really good, outstanding citizens and helping the sheriff out in the department. And I've got six pilots that fly fours at no cost to the taxpayers.

During fire season, they fly to look for smoke or there shouldn't be smoke. Or if we're looking for a bad guy, a vehicle or lost people, the posse pilots assist us in that effort. So, folks, this is something that can be done in any county, right? Any sheriff in America can deputize a posse and use that to supplement his resources, use that to protect the citizens of the community from violence and lawlessness and anything else. I mean, whether it be an illegal order to confiscate firearms or to shut down churches or to silence free speech or to shut down newspapers.

You know, this is where the posse can come in. Now, Sheriff Richard Mack, the founder of the CSPOA, I mentioned him. He sued the Clinton administration and won at the Supreme Court. But he actually has some comments on how important the sheriff can be in saving America. This is an interview I did with him a couple of years ago, actually.

But it's just as relevant today. I want to share this with you. We are peddling hope because of the true message that comes from discovering that your sheriff is the ultimate authority in your county and he's ultimately responsible for protecting your liberty. So from who? Well, what does the oath say?

All enemies, both foreign and domestic. So God bless America's sheriffs who actually know and understand their duty to uphold, defend, protect and preserve the United States Constitution. And if they do that, what are they actually doing? They're protecting your natural rights, your God given rights. And could anything be more beautiful than that?

And isn't it amazing? Liberty comes first in America. And that means to every peace officer, every sheriff, every chief of police, our duty and our responsibility first is liberty.

And that's what we train in. Amen, Sheriff Richard Mack, thank you for that. Now, there are hundreds of sheriffs who are members of Sheriff Mack's organization, CSPOA.

It's really a great group. One of those sheriffs is Sheriff Dara Leaf. And I had an opportunity to interview him at a previous constitutional sheriffs and peace officers convention that I emceed. I want to let you listen to him talking about how he was trying to find out what was going on with the voter fraud and the importance of the sheriff securing elections.

Listen to this. Are you concerned about election integrity? And do you see that as something that the sheriff should be involved in? Oh, absolutely. With the sheriff being involved.

And yeah, I'm concerned with it. And it's time for everybody in news media and everybody to quit telling the public, stupid. Everybody watched what happened that night. They watched all these swing states shut down. And then later on, they kick back on and counting their votes again.

And also the election completely flipped and people saw that. And I think the people are tired of it. They wanted an investigation.

So we're going to give them one. I'm embarrassed that the big agencies haven't gone out and done that. In fact, they've done just the opposite. They've gone after the clerks who've reported stuff to the sheriffs. And to me, that's kind of embarrassing for law enforcement right there.

Yeah, embarrassing and outrageous. In fact, that seems like interfering with a law enforcement investigation. I did interview Sheriff Darlie at the latest one. He's a sheriff in Berry County, Michigan.

And I said, you know, you couldn't believe it. But the state attorney general tried to press charges against him. The secretary of state trying to interfere in these investigations. He says it's been nothing but walls trying to stop this, trying to investigate what's going on here, which is really absolutely outrageous. We also had a chance to interview Mike Lindell. He's got a petition for paper ballots to help try to get the elections secured.

I want to share with you just a little bit of that clip as well. His his petition is really, really important. You know, back in August, when I announced the plan to secure elections, which everybody can go to Lindell plan dot com, you can also see the details of the roundtable tomorrow. We'll talk about that. But the plan when I announced that in August, that's why my pillow has been attacked worse now than any time in history.

They go, wow, we got to stop this guy's big mouth. And we were a deep bank, deep platform. We've been deep merchant server. We've been you name it. There's no company in the history of the world that's been attacked more than my pillow.

Yeah, bar none. And yet still you're here and still you're selling pillows. And but the reason is, is because we have this plan going to all three thousand one hundred forty three counties. But one of the last key component is a petition. We are announcing it right here, right now. We're announcing the biggest petition the world has ever seen. And not just a normal petition.

This is three thousand one hundred and forty three of them. We're going to the specific county like I live in Carver County, that you go you go to our Lindell plan dot com. The petition's right there. You're going to you're going to go down to your county and it tells you about your county. Now, what are we going to do with those? Well, when we go back to those clerks that make the decisions to go to paper ballots, and that's going to be part of our thing after we tell them, well, no, they're not more expensive to go to paper ballots.

It's cheaper. And we give them every reason why we should be with paper ballots. And then we say, oh, by the way, 90 percent of the county wants paper ballots and counting.

And by the way, 50 percent of them are Democrats. Right. And that's you know, this is what the people want. So this petition is going to be so big.

Ladies and gentlemen, it's it's huge. And like Mike Lindell said, right, there's so much we can do at the county level. We also interviewed General Flynn at the event and he emphasized over and over again local action for national impact. We may not be able to control what Congress is doing, but we can certainly develop a relationship with our sheriff. We can certainly develop a relationship with our county commissioners, insist on honest elections, insist on getting rid of the machines. We can insist on proper counting.

We can insist on making sure that illegal immigrants and felons are not allowed to vote. And these are things that we have to do. Ladies and gentlemen, it's critical that we protect the elections. It's critical that we protect our liberties and our rights and the county government and of course, the state government. We've done whole episodes on nullification. These are absolutely critical in this process of protecting our country.

And, you know, we've interviewed here on this program. Tom Homan, former director of ICE, who said that they dissolved the border on purpose to shift the politics of this country to benefit Democrats. Mark Morgan, former head of Customs and Border Protection, said the same thing.

We interviewed here the secretary of state for Hungary, the country of Hungary. And he said the reason that the evildoers, the globalists are doing this is because they want to eliminate Christianity. They want to undermine the nation state. And folks at our county level, with our sheriffs, with our state legislatures, with our county commissions, with our city councils, we can work on pushing back this tyranny.

And we absolutely must. The deep state doesn't control every county government in this country. They certainly don't control every sheriff in this country. In fact, there are hundreds of sheriffs who are standing against these totalitarians in New Mexico. Almost every sheriff stood against gun control.

In Illinois, almost every sheriff stood against gun control. So ladies and gentlemen, we can do so much. I hope you will take this message seriously. I hope you'll share this video with your sheriff. Give him a call. Set up a meeting. Give him this video.

Give him this this information. We've got to do it. And of course, we also have one of our affiliates, the law enforcement intelligence brief, which I write for sometimes. There's every police chief and sheriff in the country giving them good intelligence.

What they need to know that the feds are not giving them what they need to know about the threats to their community, their authority. And yeah, there's just so much more to say, but we're out of time, folks. I appreciate you tuning in.

I'm Alex Newman. This is Behind the Deep State for the New American. Thanks for watching. Until next time.

God bless you all. And exclusive, the left's election industrial complex discovered and defined. There's a battle taking place in America today.

This is an article by Joe Hoft. It's the left's election industrial complex versus fair and transparent elections. Well, conservative groups here argue over whether we should vote early on Election Day. The election industrial complex is adding, deleting, managing entities that are clandestinely operating behind U.S. elections. Now, you know, where are Republicans? I mean, we know this. Like he said, I was one of those who sat there watching him completely flip the invert those numbers.

And it's right in front of you. They did this. OK. A document produced by Higher Ground Labs entitled The 2020 Political Tech Landscape outlines what we've labeled the election industrial complex.

And they've got a chart here. This shows you all of the how they're working together. The data, the voter contract, how they operate the machines, everything. The document begins with an introduction and summary of the results of the 2022 election, using the left's bastardization of the word democracy and projection of their communist actions upon those who won fair and transport transparent elections. It goes on voter suppression in 2020 election deniers presented challenges in the 2022 with the active efforts to attack vote by mail, close polling places, harass nonpartisan election administrators and spread misinformation in Arizona.

Boy, did they do it. Georgia, Florida, beyond technology is playing an increasingly important role in supporting coordinated responses to attacks on democracy, from refining messages, development to enhancing underground organizations for informing and protecting voters. You know, John, President Trump was president on that day. He was still he was the president and he did his job. He did his job on January 6th to his job was to protect the people of the country. It was his election and his job was to protect that. He he understood what was taking place. And so all of this, this deep state, this crooked Jack Smith, the entire thing. I watched that January 6th so-called committee.

Benny Thompson, I listen every single thing that Benny Thompson said was a lie. I mean, it's like right in your face. They're lying to it's like they're telling you, you know, today is actually Monday. And they all agree and insist on it. You know, this is the way they are.

They're right out front. You know, what did Hitler say? Or marks a lie told long enough and loud enough becomes the truth. And then Hitler says, what is a lie today is the truth for tomorrow. Right. And this is the kind of this is the Nazis. That's what they said.

The goal was the one that was saying, just keep lying and they'll believe it. Yeah. And so you see, he's that's what's going on in the courts now up in the Supreme Court. He's the president of the United States. And if he thinks that his election is being stolen, he has every right to investigate it.

Not just the right. It's his duty. Yes, yes, yes. So they're trying to say he was interfering with the election. What actually was happening was he was interfering with their stealing of the election.

Absolutely. And they were in coordination with all of these so-called mainstream media. They're working thick as thieves.

The mainstream Pravda. So, you know, Mr. Ernie, I understand the Democrats. They're just reprobates on the political level, liars and lie, lie, lie, lie, steal anything. But it's these the Pence types of Republicans, the McConnell types, the Ryan types.

What are they, Pastor Ernie? They're just like what, Democrat lights? They were called during the war for the Revolutionary War.

They referred to as traitor tories, traitor tories. And that's what they are. Yeah, but they they we would we would win if they would be with us. But they're not. They're not.

No. And one of the things we we were we've been telling people here for years. We warned about how right here in Ohio, we have a real problem with what they call the Rhino Blue 22. And and we warned people, we were telling people and telling people. And it was like, well, some within the Republican Party here in Ohio tried to stop it, but they had rigged the election. They had it rigged.

They had it all. We got to close our primaries. And what they did was, again, they were encouraging all of the these Republicans that had voted for Obama, you know, these Democrats were there that had been longtime Democrats just to switch and vote in the primary, run as Republicans, get an hour behind your name. And so and the word went out to all of the Democrats voted for these Republicans.

And so they got both the Republican and the communist vote and they won. That's how they worked it. People didn't vet it. We were trying to warn them. We were telling them, we were telling them, people that listen to this program know that we were warning and telling them.

So Pastor Ernie, you remember, oh, I don't know how many years ago now, but I had that big confrontation in York County, Pennsylvania. I sure knew the Planned Parenthood and the courts and the district attorney and the mayor and all. So what happened was Planned Parenthood has got all sorts of money behind it and and all sorts of like rich people behind it. So what they did was they broke up in teams and some of them would support the the Republican like, let's say, district attorney and the other one would support the Democrat that was running for district attorney. They did it for judges. They did it for mayors.

They did it for everyone. So that no matter who won, Planned Parenthood had their hooks in them, whether they were Democrats or Republicans. They were big donators. They went out and a judge, an honest judge told us that he said Planned Parenthood owns York County, Pennsylvania. And he told us how they did it.

But he said that they donate heavy to his campaign. And he said, you can't win and you'll never win in York County. And we couldn't. We had to appeal it as soon as we would appeal the cases with win on appeal.

But not in York County. It was completely owned by Planned Parenthood. The Democrats in Planned Parenthood. Right. You have this, you know, today they have what they call higher ground labs and built an enduring platform for technological experimentation, an iteration which have invested dozens of companies, many of which have become integral components of a political tech for the far left. In 2020 alone, our companies reached seven thousand five hundred campaigns and 70 million voters. There they go. This is a large communist operation and it's totally illegal what they're doing.

But then again, it goes back to we don't have a Justice Department. And we'll be back right after this. When a cold winter's morning at a sidewalk in the city, a lost soul approached me as the snow was getting deep, I could see the look of death, it was there in her eyes now as I began to preach. She began to speak.

She said, Peter, I'll admit it. I've come to kill my baby. The whole world is telling me that I have that right. But deep down inside, I believe what you're preaching. Children are a gift of God.

We've got to give them life. So I put my arm around and I gave her the gospel. It was right there in the darkness that she received the light. Souls were a savior for her and her baby, if you're called to do the Lord's work, you had better learn to do it right, you've got to know how to do it, not just to be safe.

Don't try to walk away, there's nowhere to run, you better count your old lessons. He said, while you're here, he's the keeper of your soul tonight. He's God's son. Now, every preacher knows your rocker is salvation. I will separate the goats from all the sheep.

All men are sinners, they all need a savior. There's only one trust in, it's your soul that you'll kill. And when I finish preaching. A woman was a believer. A baby in her womb I knew she would keep. And now 25 years later, her baby is a young preacher.

She's so very proud of the baby that she decided to keep. You've got to know how to be safe, not just to be safe. Don't try to walk away, there's nowhere to run, you better count your old lessons. He said, count your blessings. He said, while you're able, he's the keeper of your soul tonight.

He's God's son. You've got to know how to be, you've got to believe him, not just appease him. Don't try to walk away, there's nowhere to run, you better count your blessings. And do it while you're able, he's the keeper of your soul now.

He's God's son. You've got to know how to be safe, not just appease him. Don't try to walk away, there's nowhere to run, you better count your blessings. You've got to believe him, not just appease him. Don't try to walk away, there's nowhere to run, you better count your blessings. You've got to know how to be, you've got to believe him, not just appease him. Don't try to walk away, there's nowhere to run, you better count your blessings. That's right, he's the keeper of your soul.

Alrighty, very good. We'll take a couple fast calls, let's go to San Diego, and Jack, you're in the air. So, I was in a homeowners association, and I sat on the board for about a year, and we were covered by heirs and admissions insurance, since board members were likely to be sued. And one of the reasons why police officers are leaving the force today is they're starting to sue police officers individually, and they're not being protected by their city or county. It's called lawfare, that's what they're doing, they've decided to go after all of us on the right, and they want it to turn into total anarchy, you create a crisis, and by doing that to the police officers, and that's why so many of them are quitting.

I know they're in Pennsylvania, in Pittsburgh, they're having a real hard time trying to get police officers. Do you think that it would be more likely that people would volunteer and become a deputy sheriff if they were covered by something similar to heirs and admissions insurance? Do you know if this particular sheriff has addressed that issue, that is, the people he deputizes, are they going to be liable or are they going to be covered by some type of insurance? No, as far as I know, they're not covered by any kind of insurance, but I do know that it's something that's necessary that's coming up. And again, we're at war, there is a communist revolution taking place right now, and so- It's county-based on your sheriffs, right?

Each sheriff will have their own preferences in how they operate, so you should call your county sheriff. Yeah, find out. Okay, thanks Jack- The last thing I wanted to bring up is how the Democrats push diversity, equity, and inclusion, the DEI, and what hypocrites, because what the Democrats are pushing now is genocide against the Jews. You have to understand something, Jack. I know that, but you have to understand something. To us, hypocrisy is a bad thing. To us, it's repulsive. To them, it's not. I've said in- When Hillary had her book signing here in Cleveland, I said to them, they didn't know who I was, and I sat there. And they were bragging about how the hypocrisy, how they talked to people or made people do something they would never do themselves or wouldn't do, they were boasting about hypocrisy. Remember, the Democratic Communist Party now, whatever God's word the Bible teaches, they're in total opposition.

That's a reality. Whether you like it or not, that's the reality of the Democratic Communist Party in America today. To see what's going on in the universities, I think the situation's going to get worse, and I think the only way that you're going to be able to control it is through some type of martial law. And once again, the United States military refuses to step in. I know how serious the situation is, and I just think that it's not going to get resolved until the military takes a position.

I think the military might this time if they see a civil war coming, so that's a possibility, but we've got to move on. All right, thanks. Let's go out to- We're going to go to Elizabeth.

Elizabeth in Ohio, you're in the air. Hi, Pastor. I wanted to say that Romans 13, 1 says, Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers, because the powers that be are ordained of God. And Titus 3, 1, it says, were to put them in mind, to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, and to be ready to every good work. So in Jesus' example, when he was arrested, he was led like a sheep to slaughter, not to the word, and to render to Caesar and that which is Caesar's, he said. So what I'm saying is, this thing, you said resistance to tyranny is obedience to God, but where is that in Scripture? Can you give me a chapter and verse, please? Because I've read my Bible front to back multiple times, the King James Version.

It's not there. Yeah, it's called, it's called From Genesis to Revelation. We start with Shiphram Puyup, two women that were wet nurses. They worked, they were employed by the government, and the king told them to kill the male babies. God said not to. They obeyed God. You had Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego.

Okay? They were told to, they were told to worship a statue, an idol, and God said not to. And they obeyed God. You had Daniel. Daniel was the president.

It's really amazing, all of the different things. Daniel and President Trump, there's so many things that are similar with those two. Daniel was a president. He had two other presidents that were trying to take him down and take his life. President Trump has the same thing. Daniel was at war with corrupt judiciary, lawfare, and President Trump has the very same thing.

And so Daniel got out of the lion's den, and those that put him there, the deep state, didn't end so well. And hopefully, pardon? I'd like to say yes, I agree with this, that we are to obey the powers that are ordained of God unless it interferes or conflicts with what God's law says. When God says, you know, not to do something, we don't do it.

That's why... Well, you've got that kind of backwards here. In other words, God's law is law when it tells you that there's no power but that of God, that those that are ordained means to be set aside. It means God's word takes president. Do you have a Bible in front of you? Yes. Turn to Hebrews chapter 13 and read me verse 7.

I know where it's at. Do you want me to read it, Pastor? Go ahead, yeah. Go ahead, John. Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God, whose faith follows considered the end of their conversation, their lifestyle. Now read verse 17.

Obey them that have rule over you and submit yourself, for they watch for your souls, as they must give account that they may do it with joy and not with grief, not that is unprofitable for you. Now let me ask you, John, would that apply to congressmen, senators, governors, and presidents? That's everybody, Pastor Ernie.

Universal, everybody. Okay, so he's referring to those are God's Bible teachers, God's prophets, right? He's referring to those that God has ordained.

Yes. Read verse 7 and 17. And the thing, too, about you have to understand what it really means, it says to render unto God what belongs to God and render unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar. That's the whole message, but you have to understand something, Elizabeth. Here's Jesus was speaking to those, he was speaking to the Herodians, which were the legislators, and he was speaking to the Pharisees, which were the judicial, and now these people that under the law, according to the law, they were asking him, according to the law, and according to the law, render to Caesar what belongs to Caesar and render to God what belongs to God. And you have to understand what he says, go to Genesis chapter 9, when the law was given, but the Bible says the earth and the fullness thereof belongs to God. When you give everything on that earth that belongs to God, whatever's left, old Caesar can have. But the reality is this, if you understand, Caesar was made in the image of God. That's the point that Jesus was when he made to those that understood the law according to the law. But I have to move on.

So let's go to AC and Cleveland AC, you're in there. Hello pastor, chaplain, and crew, who's ever left. Real quick, the caller mentioned the scripture, render unto Caesar what Caesar's and unto God what's God. The word render means to pay.

It's an old English word, to pay. Now a lot of Christians will realize this. What are we supposed to pay unto God? 10%, the tithe.

And the disciples knew that. And the sad thing about so many Christian churches today is they're not teaching the congregation to tithe. And we're supposed to tithe, and the tithe is the Lord's money. And when Christians don't tithe, they cheat themselves of God's blessing.

I've got to say this very quickly because the whole board is lit up, but let me do this very quickly. The point that he was making, look, when Caesar considered himself to be God, the reason they came to Jesus with this, they were trying to put him in a position where he could not give a right answer. In other words, if he would have said, go ahead and tithe to Caesar, then that would have been in violation of the first commandments. And the Jews under Herod could have had Jesus stoned. On the other side of that, if he says, no, do not tithe to Caesar, then Caesar would have had him for insurrection.

So the idea was that he was not supposedly not be able to give a right answer. The answer that he gave them really had them beside themselves because they had to go back to the people and tell the people, what did he say? Well, he said, well, you know, give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar and God what belongs to God. According to the law, what belongs to God?

The earth and the fullness thereof. And find out, Jesus said what? You are not your own. You belong to God. And Caesar was a man in the image of God. Go back to Genesis 9.

You find out God kept man for himself. But anyhow, I got to move on. But thanks, AC. Let's go to Leo in San Diego. Leo, you're in the air. Hello, sir. Hello.

Here for what's right, what's left of radio ministry. A question about human pregnancy and the language used to define and describe it. OK, at what point would you say an up to nine month pregnant woman, when contents can truly be described as born, that is not so-called, quote, preborn and quote. And I could rephrase the question as a human child or predict ever. Described as being preborn, it's not also at the same time ever born or unborn. OK, here's the point. That child got a woman has never given birth to anything other than a human. OK, so that from the time of fertilization, the time of conception, that is a human being. OK, so to destroy that at any time, God calls murder. And that's that's reality.

So it doesn't. Pardon? Moment of conception.

From the moment of conception. Absolutely. Go to go to Jeremiah Chapter one and read verse five.

Jeremiah one. One five. Yeah. I intend to do that, sir. All right.

Thank you. Thanks, Leo. John, it's time. How many how many minutes do I have there, John? John, you've got five minutes. OK, Pastor Ernie, I was thinking about Romans Chapter 10, which we had spoken on to start the show.

And right there. We go with verses, we'll say, eight through 10. But what sayeth it for the word is nigh, even in thy mouth and in thy heart, that this is the word of faith which we preach, that thou shalt confess with thy mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in thine heart.

God raised him from the dead. Thou shalt be saved. But with the heart, man believeth unto righteousness. And with the mouth, confess confession is made up to salvation. And verse 13 says, whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. And when we look at scriptures, the gospel is is very, very clear. It's very, very simple that in the apostle Paul said how Christ died for our sins.

According to the scriptures, he was buried and he was raised again the third day. And the two parts, folks, eternal life, according to the word of God, is believing that on the cross, Jesus Christ, the sinless only begotten Son of God paid the penalty for your sin so that you could have eternal life. There is a penalty for sin and it's death. The wages of sin is death. So it's very simple, the gospel where Jesus took the penalty for your sin, death, and God then took the righteousness because Jesus was without sin.

He was completely free of sin. The Bible says he was righteous and that's imparted into you. So the gospel then is to believe that Jesus died for you on the cross to pay the penalty for your sin.

He was buried and he rose bodily the third day from the grave. If you believe that, the Bible says whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. And that means you will have eternal life. That's pretty simple, Pastor Ernie, isn't it? It is.

So it's not complicated, folks. It's God loves you. He sent Jesus to die for you. He was without sin.

He was a perfect human being. And God loves you so much that Jesus died for you. And then God imparts Jesus' righteousness into you. That's how you go to heaven.

You can't work your way in there because there's a penalty for sin. And then when you do believe in Jesus like that, God becomes your Abba Father. You have a personal relationship with God as your Abba Father. Abba is the Hebrew word for Daddy God.

That's open for everybody right now. No matter what your background is, you could be the worst sinner who ever lived. If you're willing to repent, turn away. Repent means to turn away and to face Jesus Christ about faith.

And center Him as your life with the Word of God. With that confession, the repentance is necessary. And believe in your heart, you will be saved. Pastor Ernie, I don't know how much is left, but I feel that that was the message for the hour here.

Well, we've got about 90 seconds left for the night. I do want to tell the folks out there that right now, Second Chronicles 7.14 tell us to pray. Folks, we are at war. You have to understand this, what we're telling you. We are at war right now.

And it's both a spiritual and it's a cold war. That's the very first thing. You start on your knees before the Almighty.

And then you didn't put feet to and run to this battle. And so tell me, when are we at 30 seconds? All right, 45 seconds left. All right. So it's time to tell you all of you out there.

Remember that. Pray and then run to the fight. We are out of time. So this is the time we come to every night when we say to all of you out there, God bless. Good night.

Go to church, a real church. Good night. Yeah. And then. Be you a doer of the word. And then remember, always, always, always, always keep fighting the fight.

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