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You'll find us in the weeks to come. shook my hand at least five different times. I thought I was a messianic believer, and I told him, I pray for you all the time. I've had my church pray for him, I've had other churches pray for him. This guy being converted could be like a Saul of Tarsus, in a sense. Maybe he hasn't murdered and done what Saul did, but the influence he has with people could be a life-changing experience for a lot of Jewish folks. So it's a good thing to do to pray for them, and that's why as much evil, even with our president and the other things that we see, I still pray for him, although I'm disgusted by what I see, because I know if God can change them.

And they may enact every evil thing right up till the end and acknowledge Christ and die, and that would be a pleasure to me, whether I ever knew it or not. So that's how I look at it and the conversations with some of these. And I've had some other ones there with with some of the rabbis and different people, and just try to bring the truth of the gospel and let it lie where it does, just like when John and some others do the debates with them.

You speak the truth, you lay it out there, we don't know what it's going to do down the road. Well, when I debated him, there was about 500 Jews in attendance. It was only me, my son came with me and a pastor friend, and it was otherwise, it was all Jews. And I was delighted at the end of the debate.

I was shocked that he was promoting it. But at the end, the students, see, they had a lot of yeshiva students there that were being influenced by the gospel, and they wanted singers to come and make a fool out of a Christian preacher, and then use that to show the students. But somehow the preachers backed out, and he called, like his office called me, and I accepted it. And at the end, he did shake my hand at the end, and then he walked away, and the students came, they had their Bibles open.

Teach us Psalm 110, teach us Psalm 110. I spent about an hour. Yeah, I spent about an hour. They actually followed me to my car.

I remember it was in the winter, and it was threatening snow, and I had to go back to Pennsylvania. I said, I gotta go, I gotta go. But I answer, I spent about an hour with them, answering question after question after question. So I was excited with the results, and I had given a, regarding Isaiah 53 there, we got into it a little, I gave a clear presentation of the gospel about the shed blood, and how it was needed. So in the end, I was very pleased with the debate with singers. Very, very good. Yeah, I watched that debate myself, and it was very good. I was shocked that he was promoting in his ministry.

I thought he'd try and bury it. Yeah, well you turn your memory which way, but loose. We've got Ken Cromer calling in, and he's going to give us an update, and on, well Ken, tell us what you, yes sir, tell us what you've got. Say hi to good, uh, uh, Chaplain McTernan and Pastor Dave. Uh, good evening gentlemen. Thank you for having me joining with you this evening.

Yeah, uh, sounds like you're on quite the roll already. I have an update, and I think Tom Fairbanks is trying to join us at some point. I thought he would be, he would be with us right now.

I'm here. Oh, okay, great. So here's the quick update. We teased last night to say that the Brunson brothers case was officially killed here just a few days ago, the Rowland Brunson case, and what a lot of people don't know is, is that Rowland's case was actually the second case. Lloyd Brunson had originally filed sometime shortly after the election, I can't remember the dates exactly, but when the whole issue of the January 6 and the, and the certification of an uncertifiable election with Biden winning something that he didn't win. So Lloyd's case was working its way through the process, but got caught up and hung up in, I believe it was the US District Court out of Salt Lake City, and it just sat there, and so they decided to have a, Rowland volunteered, hey, I'll, let's try it again, and I'll just put my name on basically the same case, and let's just see if mine can get through the logjam, and sure enough, Rowland's case got to the Supreme Court first. Well, it just got denied, and wouldn't you know it, coincidentally, I don't believe in coincidences, the good Lord's allowed for Lloyd to learn what there is to learn from Rowland's case, and is now filed in the circuit court, 10th Circuit Court out of Denver, and there is a case number, and I'm going to give it to you right here, 23-4042, that's 23-4042 out of Denver, 10th Circuit Court case number. Now, what that means, though, is that because they've now put their foot in all the required courts, they may or may not wait for the circuit court to make a decision, because they've gotten there, they can actually file the Rule 11 that they filed on the first case, Rowland's case, to launch themselves into the Supreme Court on a national security issue, and so that's where it's at right now. They've got their docket number, and they could theoretically file an emergency Rule 11 and take Lloyd's case now into the Supreme Court pretty much any time, is my understanding.

So that's where it's at. This horse is not dead, this issue is not dead, the question still stands, is it okay for 388 government officials, 384 of them, 385 having been Congressmen, and then the other three being Pelosi, or excuse me, Biden, Kamala Harris, and Pence. Pelosi was part of the 385, and the question is, how did you break your oath of office by certifying something that legally you were required to review before certifying? And the answer is, that's treason, and that's actually the tweak that the Brunssons appear to have added to their case in what's called mis-preason of treason. We understand that they've added that to their case, and Tom and I have been able to help them understand the value of adding that new element, and what that means simply is that, hey Brunssons brothers, we're Brunssons brothers over here, we're waving a flag saying we think there's treason over here, and by federal statute, I don't have the number in front of me, I'll dig it up here in a second, but by federal statute, the court that's being approached with that declaration flag-waving of hey there's treason here we think, must hear the case, or if they don't, they now are legally tied to the treason. That's huge. To think that the SCOTUS would be tied to the possible treason that the 388 were being charged with, that potentially that's nine more depending on who votes which way, right?

Nine more to the 388, that would be 397, I think. Can you hear me, Ken? Do we have a constitution or don't we? Yes. Ken, can you hear me? Yes, sir.

Okay, yeah. All right, here, the question I guess I have is here, when Mike Pence made the statement that he had no other recourse but then to do that, and again, you're right, under this mis-preason of treason, he was obligated, Mike Pence, under the law, was obligated when they stood in front of him and said, here, right here is the evidence that we have for treason, for the selection. Now, when that happened, he had the obligation to look at that evidence, but he refused, and he's been on a television show in the country saying he had no, he didn't have any recourse. Now, there are people calling right on this radio program, says, well, take a look at the 12th Amendment, tells you right there, no.

Again, the 12th Amendment is what it is, but you have that law that says when evidence is presented, you have to look at the evidence when it refers to treason on a national scale, right? That's right. Didn't Congress just vote on and change the law to make Pence, or the Vice President's obligation ceremonial? They were talking about that. I don't think they'd done it yet. Okay, that's what they were talking about.

Now, here's the question. First of all, there are people who say, well, look, even if the Supreme Court's here is that case, and even if the Supreme Court rules on that case, how are they going to enforce it? How are you going to enforce it? Because we don't have a Justice Department, and the FBI is totally corrupted, and even the military, even our military, has been corrupted. So, the question is, how would they enforce the removal of all of those people?

Well, according to the Brunssons, who have done all the research, you might recall, I think Loy may have explained this when he was on the show with us back, I think it was the 18th of December. Remember when he and I joined you, Pastor Sanders? We talked about, I think we talked about it then, and the answer is that the court could have decided to order the Sergeant of Arms at the Capitol to retract the credentials from those 388, because they violated their oath of office, and the Supreme Court has made a ruling to that effect. Therefore, do not let them in the Capitol would be the order, part of their order.

That's a potential. And the same thing could have been done to the Secret Service at the White House. They may have received an order from the Supreme Court saying, this person, Joseph Biden, and this person, Kamala Harris, are not allowed into the White House any longer, their credentials are retracted for treason. That's what they claimed would be the process. Nobody knows what the process could or should have been, exactly because it's never happened before. But that is the ultimate decision of the Supreme Court, is to be the final arbiter with regards to a constitutional issue, the likes of which has never happened of this sort. They're not aware of any, well, I take that back, there was one Rule 11 that was tried, I think it was like 50 years ago in the Nixon administration, if I recall the story well.

But this is just a procedure that's never been done. But now it's been done by Rollin, and it could very well be done by Loy here again very soon. But with the added tweak of, by the way, Supreme Court, if you're being noticed of mis-preason of treason, if you don't hear this case, you are now officially, by federal statute, a part of the treason too. That's pretty strong medicine. All right, John McCurnan, Chaplain McCurnan, was a federal agent.

John, what do you think about all that? Well, my two cents on this, I know that federal judges cannot, what do you call it, they cannot dictate to like federal agents. And for example, like if the marshals are under the authority of the Justice Department. So a federal judge, the Justice Department can tell a judge, no, we're not going to do this.

You know, so it's clear, you know, that's happened. The the judge, the marshals in the court offices are not under the court. They're under the executive branch.

So I don't know how that would shake out. If the Supreme Court tried to dictate to the executive branch, and to the House, I don't know, you know, this is this is strange territory, isn't it? Yes, strange. But I know the marshals, if the head of the marshals or the President tells the marshals not to enforce something that the court is trying to get them to enforce, then they don't do it. Okay, let me ask you this now. You see what's happening, obviously everybody, I mean even the Democrats understand what what is happening with this brag, Alvin Bragg, in the case that he's bringing against President Trump with a corrupt judge there.

Now, here there's a couple things that that are very curious. One, Trump, Trump has has a plan for sure, because Trump never had to show up there, and we know that he has he could have had that case moved out of Manhattan. He didn't have to go there. DeSantis said he would not sign any order to just to take him back, okay? Extradite. But Trump voluntarily won in. What do you think Trump knows that we don't know? What do you think he's really up to?

Would you like me to answer that, Pastor Sanders? This was the most brilliant move that anybody could understand. What Trump did by allowing himself to publicly go and to subject himself to this indictment set a precedent. The precedent that he just set is now that any sitting or former president of the United States can now be indicted because they did it to Trump. Why is that so utterly brilliant? Because Florida has had a grand jury who has just indicted Joe Biden, his staff, and his and his accomplices of child trafficking.

Very good. Now you're not going to hear any of that on the mainstream media, are you? No, no, you are not going to hear that on the mainstream media. Constitution prevents, and I don't know if it's indicted, I think it is, of a sitting president can be indicted afterwards, but not while he's sitting president. Now let's go back to the violation of the oath of office because that's been a very seemingly clouded issue, shall we?

In our research, as we've gone through this process, we actually came across a case that has been settled on, and so this is significant because the courts relate to settled cases. In a case called Cooper versus Aaron, back from 1958, here's what the quote is. Any judge or magistrate who does not comply with his or her oath of office of the Constitution of the United States, wars against that Constitution, and engages in acts of violation of their supreme law of the land. The judge is engaged in acts of treason, period. Here, Jim Jordan wants to subpoena Bragg. Bragg says, I don't have to come, I don't have to come there for a hearing. Now, I'm a county prosecutor, I'm not a federal, but now Bragg has taken federal money.

He's gotten federal money, and once you receive that federal dollars, according to Jim Jordan, now that places him under the territory thereof, the jurisdiction of the Congress. What do you think about that? He's absolutely right. And so, now, if, you know, if they bring Bragg in, I know there's some opinion, some others, I mean, even, I mean, even the Democrats, even the Democrats are now starting to throw Bragg under the bus. They're seeing that. I was amazed to see a couple things happening here that are really kind of add an insult to injury and everything that's happening out there. We're seeing, actually, even on, what is it, CNN, they actually were talking about how, in Afghanistan, that Joe Biden did everything he could possibly do wrong in Afghanistan and responsible for the deaths of those 13 Americans.

Okay. I couldn't believe that on CNN. I could not believe that, that that would be there. Now, another thing that just happened here recently, Nancy Pelosi was speaking. She went to one of these big liberal Communist Party, I'm trying to think of conferences, but anyhow, she was speaking. Oh God, heckled.

Pardon? She got heckled. She really got heckled.

The Communist Party themselves, the young communists, were heckling her. Yeah. And really going after her. Yeah. And so, this is interesting to see this because she, she is a strong advocate of everything that God's word, the Bible calls us sin, that woman embraces. And so, so we're seeing a crack.

We're seeing within the collective, aren't we? Oh, absolutely. You know, we talk about, we talk about prosecutorial misconduct. In jurisprudence, prosecutorial misconduct is an illegal act or failing to act on the part of the prosecutor, especially an attempt to sway the jury, in this case a grand jury, to wrongly convict a defendant or to impose a harsher than appropriate punishment. That's the definition of prosecutorial misconduct. Seems like all of that fits with regard to the claims by Bragg, correct?

Correct. Another problem that Bragg has created is he's done Brady violations. And that happens when exculpatory or impeaching information and evidence that is material to the guilt or innocent or the punishment of a defendant is suppressed. And that term comes from a 1963 U.S. Supreme Court case, Brady v. Maryland, in which the Supreme Court ruled that suppression of evidence favorable to a defendant who has requested it violates due process. These are two very significant issues.

But the third one, the third one is the oath of office. Now Michael Cohen, the lawyer, Michael Cohen's lawyer confirmed that Cohen personally paid Stormy Daniels $130,000 out of his own personal funds. That's what this whole thing is about, correct?

Correct. Now we're not talking an insignificant amount of money here. Cohen, who claimed that he was paying off Stormy Daniels on behalf of his client, Donald Trump, with Cohen's own funds and without reimbursement arrangements from Trump, or his campaign has the appearance of collusion. So simply following logic, we cannot help but wonder just who exactly was actually involved in a payoff scheme. Was Michael Cohen actually trying to set Donald Trump up in an act of collusion with those who were already shown themselves to be enemies of Trump's and intentionally collaborating with the Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg?

See these muddy waters? Well the waters are very muddy because three times now Stormy Daniels has said nothing ever happened between her and Trump. Well not only that, the same day that they're arguing this, the courts rule that Stormy Daniels has to pay Trump almost $122,000 in the dirty space. She's like Michael Cohen, completely discredited, but yet she's gonna grab a microphone and start talking.

Who's paying her? Yeah, so here, so Michael Cohen was Donald Trump's lawyer and had legal requirements as a fiduciary to Donald Trump. Under his oath of office as an attorney, both Michael Cohen and Alvin Bragg as attorneys gave an oath of office to support and defend the Constitution in all situations. A prerequisite of an attorney's license is an inviolable promise that they will always support and defend the Constitution in all situations. Every lawyer in the country must be sworn in and take their state's oath of attorney.

The ceremony may seem traditional and mundane, but it has never been more important. This oath binds each attorney to certain professional obligations and requires us as attorneys to faithfully uphold and support the laws of the state in our country. The words that the oath mandate to all attorneys that they practice with professionalism, integrity, and respect. Each state's oath varies in its wording, but they all require the same three duties. One, to support the Constitution of the United States. Two, to faithfully discharge the duties of an attorney.

And three, to conduct themselves with integrity and civility. As officers of the courts, lawyers are sworn to support the Constitution not just of the state in which they seek the practice, but above all to support the Constitution of the United States. The promise is included first in every state's attorney's oath, and it is the most important promise that a new attorney will ever make. It commands an attorney to take action to ensure the supreme law of the land is followed and upheld. The promise is a burden on all lawyers.

Every lawyer must defend the US Constitution in all ways at all times. Guess who quotes that? The American Bar Association.

Oh yeah, that's right. The American Bar Association. These guys are dead to right. Well, the Manhattan Bar Association is about as corrupt as corrupt can get. Yeah, and that is, when Trump's involved, all bets are off. New York State is totally corrupt, so they'll just ignore it. They'll just ignore it. I mean, that's what they've been doing. They've let corrupt lawyers get off, and then all the lawyers that Trump, work with Trump, they've been trying to disbar them or penalize them and all. So the whole, the system's rotten. I mean, the ideal is wonderful, but you have to have people of integrity to enforce it. All right, let me ask you this.

Could I add? Okay, go ahead, go ahead. Yeah, no, I was just gonna add, you know, Tom was talking there about Alvin Bragg and all the deficiencies of his case. Most people didn't even hear that, according to Fox News, Legal Mind's Greg Jarrett, and I'm reading from an article here, that Soros-funded DA Alvin Bragg hid nearly 600 pages of exculpatory evidence.

That'd be Brady material, right? 600 pages of exculpatory material to the New York Grand Jury investigating President Trump. In other words, he held back all the proof that Trump was innocent to get that indictment.

That's illegal. I mean, that is, that's, that's, he broke his oath, and, and he should be disbarred on that fact alone. Well, it was Cohen's own lawyer that made that statement. He had come out and, and, and made that statement there at the Grand Jury, but now let me ask you this. This judge, this judge, who, first of all, is a very big anti-Trumper, a complete anti-Trumper, but now this, you know, that, that attorney Horowitz, and now Horowitz, he's, first of all, Horowitz came out and he said that he had voted against Trump three times.

I'm wondering, because I only know of Trump running for office twice. I'm wondering if he was telling us he was an election fraud, but anyhow, he still made the statement that if they had put a gag order on Trump, if that judge had done that, he was going to, they bring a suit against that judge for violation of First Amendment rights. Now, and this kind of, and this is why that judge backed it down.

Now, he set, reset the case for December 4th. What do you think the significance of that is? It's the primaries. The primaries come and win in January, right?

When this, when's the first point? The point is, is that he's, he's trying to kill Trump when it'll matter most, but ironically, he's actually thrusting Trump forward, blocking, taking all the media attention, all the news cycles away from any other potential candidate. They've done Trump a huge favor, though they thought they were trying to kill him by putting it off until December 4th. Well, you know, Trump is rope-a-doping them. I mean, Trump, Trump knows about this, he's no dummy, and oh yeah, so he's setting these people up and as well as he should, and we're seeing the cracks and they're happening already here. This thing, though, you know, it's an amazing thing, and you don't know how much, how much theater you have between, like these politicians, like a lot of times, you know, when you have these debates, when all of these Republicans in the primaries, you know, they talk, they, you know, they talk between themselves and they set little boundaries of where they could go, and a lot of this stuff is theatrics, okay? Some years ago, when I, when I would be out preaching in front of the bloody abortion milks, we had a police commander who was, who was actually a Baptist minister, Baptist preacher, he was very pro-life, and he would come out and he would bring his men out, and one, one occasion he came out and he had his men pull their cars over each driveway with the red lights going, and the cops would stand in front of the cars that when these people would slow down to pull and they'd wave them on. Meanwhile, Bob and I would stand out there and shake our fingers in each other's faces like we were arguing, okay, and it was all theatrics, and we'd be standing there shaking our fingers and he'd be asking me, what do you appreciate on Sunday, and I'd be telling him, and, and sometimes we'd actually discuss, saying how he was a free will Baptist, we had some, some interesting conversations, but I'm seeing these things happening too, and of course we're seeing it on both sides, but especially I think with the Republicans, so these, these primaries aren't, it's not exactly the way you see, they, they, look what happened immediately after Trump won the nomination, remember how he was at total odds with Ted Cruz, and all of a sudden they become best buddies, right? Now, you, you would think, well, Trump, Trump did, we're gonna, hang tight, we'll be back right after this. I can't just imagine 10,000 angels cry, that would seem like grace to me and you.

Angels all stood ready, to take him down the tree, they waited for the words, from his voice, when he asked the father, why has thou forsaken me, they watched the Savior die, of his own choice, I've never seen 10,000 angels cry, but I'm sure they did, they stood by, and watched the Savior die, God turned his head away, he couldn't bear the sight, it must have looked like rain, when 10,000 angels cried, let the salt slip away, the skies turned to grey, and when Jesus gave his all, that's when the tears began to fly, I've never seen 10,000 angels cry, but I'm sure they did, as they stood by, and watched the Savior die, God turned his head away, he couldn't bear the sight, it must have looked like rain, when 10,000 angels cried, it must have looked like rain, when 10,000 angels cried. Alrighty we are back, and you know that was our own Julie Dana, and she's one who sings a number of the songs with me, but she sang that, that was a song with somebody else, I can't remember who it was, but that one there was Julie Dana, anyhow, boy 10,000 angels crying, I can tell you, they can't be happy with the way things are going on now, but we know we're surrounded by a whole host of them, and the left is in big trouble aren't they? Yes, Pastor Sanders, I'm having a hard time hearing you, if they can pot up your sound a little bit, mine's fully up, as loud as it'll go, but if you don't mind my asking you a tease, pardon, yeah go ahead, I'll try to speak as loud as I can, I was wondering if you know why, or how, what Barbie and Ken, my wife and I, have in common with Donald J. Trump? Probably what you tell us, yeah, you've got lawsuits, just like you were, they're doing to you guys what they did to Donald J. Trump. Exactly, well firstly, Donald Trump had 30 SWAT team members come and visit him at Mar-a-Lago as you know, he had 75, so we got a little bit of commonality there, I don't know why we are quote unquote more important than President Trump, we've got some ideas, has to do with land patents and other things, IRS, etc., but the other thing that we have in common with him is that when he was brought up on charges, they didn't have a specific charge when he was indicted, ours was the exact same thing, the IRS filed a case in United States District Court, Salt Lake City, saying you owe $1,053,000, $65.28, and we're saying really, okay, tell us the law that we broke, and they never would do it, we said look, you've got two choices, it's either Article 1, Section 8, Clause 1 of the Constitution, or it's the 16th Amendment, it's one or the other, and they just kept saying you have to tell us what you're pleading guilty or not guilty to, and we're saying we don't even know what the charge is, you won't tell us, and it's a long story, but we can feel Trump's pain, if you don't tell us what it is you think we did wrong, how can we defend ourselves?

That's the whole idea. Let me ask you this, because Trump is calling on Congress to defund weaponized FBI and the Justice Department, Congress can do that, I'm not quite sure, I know if it ever got to, and it could go to the Congress, it could possibly even pass in the Senate, because there are some Democrats that are thinking about jumping ship now in the Senate and coming over to the Republican side, but let's just say it did, and of course we know if Joe Obama is still there, he'd veto it, but anyhow, I'm just wondering, the American people could really put the pressure on Congress, even the Democrats, to defund the FBI without nasty Pelosi and their cracking a whip and keeping their people in order, again there seems to be within the collective some, well there seems to be some jumping ship, what do you guys think? Well, you know, we've talked about this treason, and more importantly, one of the things that we've done with the Kromers, we even suggested it with President Trump, is that this matter could have been handled by way of a habeas corpus, and few people recognize what that really means. Because an indictment is not an arrest warrant, what would have had to happen is they would have had to send up, issue the arrest warrant, they would have had to send it to the Governor of New York, who would have had to send it to Governor DeSantis, and Governor DeSantis would then have to make the decision of whether or not Trump could be expedited. DeSantis chose not to expedite, but President Trump went willingly on his own. The significance of the question of habeas corpus, though, gets very complicated, because the dirty little secret is that in 1863, President Lincoln issued his proclamation, number 104, which suspended habeas corpus. When Andrew Johnson was the President at the end of the war, he issued a proclamation, but he did not modify or revoke President Lincoln's proclamation 104. So there are those with good reason and cause that show that habeas corpus has never been reinstituted. If that is in fact the case, and this was suggested to Trump and his people, that the Supreme Court would have had to rule whether or not habeas corpus had been reinstated. Because if it didn't, the dirtiest little secret of all is that the Supreme Court and the entire Department of Justice has been operating unlawfully for the last 140 years.

That's a dirty little secret there, Tom. So who, if they've been operating unlawfully, who is in control? Who has the legal authority?

And the answer is the military. Oh, yes, Tom, I'm sorry, that's a really important point, that the military, who can step in here now. But I was just going to put an amen onto what you said, because as you'll recall, Tom, Barbara and I, we filed habeas corpus, our case, to the Utah Court of Appeals. Well, Ken, how many habeas corpus did we file? How many habeas corpus have we filed?

Well, yeah, I was just getting back to that. We started in the American Fork District Court as we were required to by law. We ended up in the Court of Appeals, went there twice, went to then the Supreme Court of the State of Utah, and our final question to the Supreme Court was, you've got 10 days to admit or deny that the habeas corpus is even still in play, and that 1863 didn't happen – or, excuse me – that President Lincoln's habeas corpus suspension has been reinstituted. We require remedy, Supreme Court of the State of Utah, and you're denying it to us, and you won't even tell us why.

And we're telling you it's because you don't have habeas corpus, and you're now in a legal court. We're going to take you to the Supreme Court. And that's where we're heading right now, Barbara and I, and we've just been waiting for the Brunson's case to kind of make its way. I believe Tom may have some comments about that, you know? We're heading there. Tom, you've got about one minute to comment, because we're going to turn it over to Chaplain McTernan.

He is going to lead us tonight, give us an invitation out there. So you've got about a minute, Tom. OK, so here's the point. The legal question of the day is, has habeas corpus ever been reinstated, or has it been suspended? It's been suspended, the entire court system has been operating unlawfully for the last 140 years. The military then has to control the proper authority. If that's the case, then all of our arguments, all of our conjectures can be overturned, and we can end this by repeating what Trump has said repeatedly.

Military is the only way. All right, very good. John, you've got eight minutes, and go ahead and take it away. Thank you, Pastor Ernie, thank you.

We've heard many things today and the situation in the United States. Bible says the world passes away in the lust thereof, but he that doeth the will of God abideth forever. And we want to be lined up with God because of the eternity, there's a heaven and there's a literal hell. I think the most important scripture to look at is Luke 4.18 in the Bible, where it says that the Spirit of the Lord is upon me, that's upon Jesus Christ, because he anointed me to preach the gospel, the good news to the poor. And then there's a semicolon, so this verse is in two sections. The second part says, he has sent me to heal a brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, and to set at liberty them that are bruised.

So the first part, we're going to look at this quickly in two parts. The first part is to preach the good news, the gospel to the poor. God sent Jesus Christ to restore us to him, because there's a big separation because of sin. There's a penalty for sin, the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Sin has to be paid for, there is a penalty for it. And Jesus was without sin, he was the sinless, only begotten Son of God. On the cross, God placed our sin on him, and then sort of betrayed, we get his righteousness, so that we are now, the penalty for sin is free, Jesus took it by his shed blood, in whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins. The price, we cannot pay our own penalty, the penalty for sin will be eternity separated from God, in a place actually called the lake of fire.

No one wants to go there. And then three days later, Jesus rose from the dead, and that is the heart of the good news. So to have that applied to your life, it's repentance, the repentance and remission of sin, that was Jesus' command to the disciples to preach repentance and remission, doing the way of sin.

So repentance is an act of the will, turning away from sin to Jesus Christ, and then confessing him as your Lord and Savior that he died on the cross, shed his blood, paid the price for your sin, bodily rose from the third day, and he's coming again. Now that anchors us with God, but there's more to it than the ministry of Jesus, and he has sent me to heal the brokenhearted. So many of us have broken hearts.

This world is designed, really, because of the fallen nature of it and sin, it breaks our hearts. And God does not want us to break our hearts. And a symptom of a broken heart, fear in its various forms, depression with the feeling of hopelessness, sorrow, mourning, and grief, constant feelings of condemnation, deep feelings of loneliness, and vivid memories of traumatic events.

If you have vivid memories of terrible things that happen, that is a sure sign of a broken heart. And those things can be like the loss of a child, loss of a spouse, the parents. These break our hearts, severe trauma from a crime or automobile accident can definitely give us broken hearts.

Poverty, being subject to violence, broken families, divorce, there's a whole litany of things leading to post-traumatic stress disorder, and the healing of the broken heart, healing us of fear in our heart, can heal broken hearts of post-traumatic stress disorder. These are all things that God sent Jesus Christ to do, to give us salvation, eternal life with him, and here on earth heal our broken hearts. Then it says to preach deliverance to the captives, those that have strongholds, bondage in their mind, it's called strongholds. And that not only does he want to heal our heart, but he wants to destroy strongholds in our minds. That's another reason that God sent Jesus Christ, because he wants us healed in our heart and our mind set free, pulling down of strongholds, and then bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ. And then it says he came to set at liberty them that are bruised, and to set at liberty from them that are bruised are those that are oppressed of the devil, how God anointed Jesus Christ of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and power, who went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed of the devil.

They've been bruised, they've been crushed by this world. Jesus Christ came, that was the good news to heal all who were oppressed of the devil. So God, in his love for us, wants to do two things, it's all in Luke 4.18. One is to free us from the penalty of sin, and that we can have eternal life with God, because of what Jesus Christ did on the cross. And in addition to that, is to become our Abba Father.

That means in Hebrew the word Abba is Daddy, that's the relationship the Creator of the universe wants to have with us. And then, once that's established, and the penalty for sin has been paid for, then he wants to heal our broken heart, he wants to set our minds free from bondage, and he wants us to be set free from being oppressed of the devil. So I'm going to lead in a prayer, and if your heart's desire is to repent and have assurance of eternal life with Jesus Christ, you want your heart healed, you want to be free from bondage and being free from being oppressed of the devil, please follow me in prayer. God, I come before you now, in the name of Jesus, and I repent, I turn from sin, I turn from selfish sin, and living in sin, to Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior, and your Word. I want Jesus and your Word at the center of my life. Alright, John, we are out of time, but I want to thank you for that, thanks for being here fellas, everybody, that's all you guys, and as we say every night at this time, good night, God bless, and keep fighting the fight! Thanks for listening to the voice of the Christian resistance. What's right, what's left, hosted by Pastor Ernie Sanders. To learn more about our ministry, please visit us online at www.wrwl.org. Please tune in next time for another edition of What's Right, What's Left. The preceding program is sponsored by What's Right, What's Left Ministries, and is responsible for its content.